codm-gunsmith-help

[rich arch]

For oden ^^

[keen gazelle]

barrel to mono....

[ruby sail]

You got oden already? @rich arch

[keen gazelle]

ohhh for the extra 2m of range

[ruby sail]

Anyway @rich arch

[rich arch]

Not yet I've tried it out in br and training range

[rich arch]

Just give us a warning, that's it

[ruby sail]

I use oden in BR once

[keen gazelle]

my current build

the supp doesn't even do anything, all you really need is the ext. barrel or mono lol

[tiny quest]

Suspension

Better than short barrel

[keen gazelle]

what?

you're just adding aimshake and slowing your ads

[ruby sail]

@rich arch i take that build form ICE CODM

[tiny quest]

Wait i will use ranger

[obsidian pebble]

Yh I got told off when I sent my colossus supp MP build here

[keen gazelle]

I use it cause I think it looks cool

b i g suppressor

[obsidian pebble]

Fr tho

[keen gazelle]

but those same people that told you off probably use handle and rapid fire on the hades

[obsidian pebble]

Got told off for sup, Ranger, and then short

[keen gazelle]

whats bad abt short lol

[zealous hinge]

They just won’t accept that famas is meta

[ruby iris]

Make legs 1x

Then it's meta

[undone sandal]

rapid fire

[undone sandal]

what body dmg multiplier does legs have

atm

[ruby iris]

0.95x

[rich arch]

guys what's the most preferable Secondary weapon for shotguns?

[rich arch]

gs 50

I see, so a pistol

not a melee weapon?

[royal dagger]

No

[tiny quest]

Thumper or any pistol

[rich arch]

cause why you need a close range one tap as a secondary for shotty

aight aight .50 GS it is then

[deep glacier]

Why'd you use a melee with a weapon that's basically a melee already

[rich arch]

sooo what's your recommended build for .50 GS?

[rich arch]

thanks man

[unique zinc]

I made an SP-R Build that is bear reaemblance to the M2010 Enhanced Sniper Rifle (below)

Pardon sending these non-meta builds, they are just for show, i just love making real life gunsmith conversions like this

[undone sandal]

oh i thought you were serious about the build

its just a remake of a gun

[unique zinc]

I'd be going to #codm-gunsmith-builds if i were serious with meta builds

Right before im into meta builds, i was having fun using the gunsmith by converting base weapons into real life variants

[ruby sail]

Umm
Nice

[sand widget]

🍞

[strange rivet]

Because of the oden's lethality I don't think we need a mag for BR
We can just use extended mods

[fierce pilot]

pls give best cbr4 gunsmith

for legendary grind

[ruby sail]

INCOMING pic

[undone sandal]

base mag is 20 tho

leg ext mag is just +30 so 50

[unique zinc]

Available M4 (LVOA-C) conversions

• M4A1 Block II
• Mk18 Mod 1
• M16A4 R0901

[ruby sail]

So prinz
Whan to grind camo?@undone sandal

[undone sandal]

grinding ranked

ill grind camo tmrw

[ruby sail]

Try m4 sopmod ii@unique zinc

[fierce pilot]

tnx

[rich arch]

@rich arch @mighty acorn @keen gazelle I'm getting there lads

[keen gazelle]

DIAMOND KARR

[rich arch]

soon enough lad soon enough

[ruby sail]

[rich arch]

aggressive kilo ba is the way

[royal dagger]

[ruby sail]

INCOMING picture

Best kar skin

[rich arch]

waiting to win the giveaway and get the best kar skin

[unique zinc]

Its already at the top pic

I just called it M4A1 Block II

[ruby sail]

Oh
AR 15?

[unique zinc]

AR-15 is a platform

[ruby sail]

Umm

So is work?

[unique zinc]

Wdym?

[ruby sail]

Nevermind

[unique zinc]

I have that gun, and i like the fact that it has a detachable magazine instead of using stripper clips

[ruby sail]

Or this?

[unique zinc]

That too

One sec

[ruby sail]

Show me your build kilo bolt and AS VAL @unique zinc

[unique zinc]

The Kilo Bolt (Kar98k) is just for show, for the AS Val, it's a real deal meta

[ruby sail]

@unique zinc

[undone sandal]

no pls

[ruby sail]

AS VAL or kilo?@undone sandal

[unique zinc]

Gotta embrace the weeaboo

In all honesty, Sniping isn't my type, so i used the AS Val very often

[ruby sail]

I use iron sight to kilo bolt be like:

[rich arch]

Best loadout for r9 shotgun?

[sand widget]

5mw/tac laser, choke, ext light barrel, heavy bore, gran

[rich arch]

Thank

[sand widget]

all good

[rich arch]

And wbu Jak-12?

[undone sandal]

both

[undone sandal]

and normalize making bad builds? no pls

[sand widget]

ye that

^

can use slugs for gaeming

switch to tac in that case

[rich arch]

THANKS

[unique zinc]

Try this one out, all attribute ratings are in green, so it will be good

[primal steeple]

Cbr build?

[rich arch]

Do you guys use the ICR?

[unique zinc]

My attribute ratings are in green, you can tell that the build will work well in combat

[unique zinc]

I occasionally do

[primal steeple]

Green stats ≠ good to use

[strange rivet]

🤢

[ruby sail]

Gks build?@strange rivet

[primal steeple]

Thanks!!

[undone sandal]

whos gonna tell him bar stats are inaccurate

[strange rivet]

Mono suppressor
Short barrel
Tac laser
32 round
Granulated grip
Optional: short barrel to ykm integral suppressor and mono suppressor to light stock

[keen wagon]

Anyone got a good ICR build for ranked?

[unique zinc]

Here is my build ir you want it

[unique zinc]

@keen wagon here is mine

[sand widget]

mono, no stock, gran, tac laser, mag

[stray saddle]

gib drh build for snd

[undone sandal]

integral supp
nostock
owc laser tac
50r
gran

[sand widget]

tac sup/filler, no stock, 25 otm, gran, tac laser

[stray saddle]

filler?

[sand widget]

any attachment you like

doesn't change much

[stray saddle]

sniepa

[ruby sail]

Here mine

[keen wagon]

I will try the builds 3 ppl gave me

[strange rivet]

Hmm
It's not terrible, I'll give you that

[random cradle]

It is terrible

[stray saddle]

ak build br

[rich arch]

the shit doesn't have bsa
you gotta stack it somehow
but yeah mono is kinda weird

[random cradle]

This is much better

[undone sandal]

overkill in range

[stray saddle]

ak47 builds for br?

[undone sandal]

the mono marksman

[rich arch]

but no bsa

[undone sandal]

gru grip
optic
strike stock
owc tac
5.45 ammo

[rich arch]

at least when I used the icr at range

[undone sandal]

as if it matters on the icr

[stray saddle]

will scope work? like vlk?

[random cradle]

It does matter on the ICR cuz it has terrible bsa

[stray saddle]

vlk is 3x

[rich arch]

I guess you're right

[undone sandal]

marksman gives a bit of bsa

[stray saddle]

could i use a scioe?

[undone sandal]

but overall its overkill on range

[stray saddle]

scope*

[undone sandal]

optic/scope

[stray saddle]

which is the best one

[ruby iris]

Stat bars🚮

[undone sandal]

ur preference

[random cradle]

ICR can 4 shot upto 30 meters now without stacking any range so why put mono+marksman and slow it down

[stray saddle]

alr

[ruby iris]

Stat sheet when?

[stray saddle]

since i am garena ill use rds

good tourney builds

or good guns for it

[sand widget]

classic rds/holo 2

[unique zinc]

All Green stats means balanced 🧘‍♂️

[strange rivet]

[stray saddle]

good tourney guns?

im gonna grind my ass off in solo

[sand widget]

br?

sowy im not aware

[stray saddle]

mp

[sand widget]

o

mac, kilo, cbr

[ruby iris]

Reject

[sand widget]

amax, m13 there too

[ruby iris]

Return to

[stray saddle]

@ruby iris best m13 and amax build

[ruby iris]

Way better than some random ass numbers

[stray saddle]

rice

i ping

[unique zinc]

All Jokes aside, You haven't even equip the weapon because you didn't reach Tier 21 to do so

[ruby iris]

And?

Im not gonna grind my ass off for an overhyped ar

[unique zinc]

You chosing the weapon before equipping shows what attributes you will gain and lose when using that weapon

[obsidian pebble]

U wouldn’t think it’s overhyped if u had it

Oden brazzyyy

[ruby iris]

13m inconsistent 2 tap, 146 ms pv, 700 m/s bv

🚮

[obsidian pebble]

25m 2 tap

[ruby iris]

Tried it a lot in test server

[obsidian pebble]

Just from 2 chest shot

And that’s base range

[unique zinc]

Just use it in mid range

Or maybe use it as a camper gun or smth

[ruby iris]

Arms covers chest

Have fun aiming chest against strafing m13s

[strange rivet]

700-60%
700-420=280 milliseconds of bullet velocity
This is with the subsonic rounds

[obsidian pebble]

I hit head often anyway, colossus sup makes 2 tap 35m

[unique zinc]

Its more of a Pseudo-Marksman role

[ruby iris]

Why not sks then?

No bv, better lethality

[undone sandal]

server friendly because no link

[unique zinc]

Because the Oden fires in full auto

[viscid belfry]

anyone here have oden?

[unique zinc]

You can fire in small bursts to get your shots right

[obsidian pebble]

U can aggro with Oden

[obsidian pebble]

Yh

[unique zinc]

Im planning on doing that

[viscid belfry]

its good?

[sand widget]

this is same guy i told you earlier bout achieving that 2sk potential

[viscid belfry]

or its a camper weapon

[sand widget]

don't bother

[obsidian pebble]

I like, I think it’s even better on mp

[obsidian pebble]

Versatile, passive or aggressive

[ruby iris]

Ahh, more chance to waste ammo

[obsidian pebble]

If u can control recoil that is

[viscid belfry]

camp on a place and stay

[obsidian pebble]

Oden recoil is easy even with full mobility build

[ruby iris]

360 semi would be way better than 410 full auto

[viscid belfry]

sheesh

so its broken?

[undone sandal]

no

[ruby iris]

Nah, below average

[unique zinc]

With a slower firerate you wouldnt have a problem

[viscid belfry]

thanks god

[sand widget]

funi chat

[obsidian pebble]

Oden clip ain’t even bad cos of the few bullet it take to kill, can get down a good few before reloading

[sand widget]

[undone sandal]

you do know that the meta is based around high rof guns

[viscid belfry]

slow reload?

[undone sandal]

20 base mag capacity

[obsidian pebble]

Who are you? Further more suck ur mudda cos I don’t like you

[viscid belfry]

pretty good for the firerate

[sand widget]

logik 100

[unique zinc]

I know that, thats why i said use the Oden for ranged engagements instead of being a close quarter one

[undone sandal]

mhm

sure you did

[sand widget]

you have 20% acc

and, for a gun shooting on 400 rpm

and you're talking about potential

[ruby iris]

410 rpm with 700m/s bv is definitely easy to hit chest at 25m, yes

[sand widget]

[viscid belfry]

idk that things

im not smart

[keen gazelle]

oden for range??? I only play with long range weapons and the oden is not meant for range

[obsidian pebble]

If u used man o war before Oden is light work

[keen gazelle]

with how it is now, the oden is horrible for range

[sand widget]

o my god

[ruby iris]

^

[viscid belfry]

i used man o war for alot time

[unique zinc]

With a slower firerate in its class, i beg to differ

[obsidian pebble]

Oden to man o war is mac to fennec

[unique zinc]

Its more of a Pseudo Marksman

[ruby iris]

700m/s bv says no

[keen gazelle]

this ain't mw where movement is slow and targets are easy. people move AND you need chest shots to 2 tap

[obsidian pebble]

Similar but better in basically all ways

[keen gazelle]

the arms cover the chest

[stray saddle]

best mac 10 build

[viscid belfry]

nice

[keen gazelle]

at 25m you're gunna be hitting the arms not the chest

if anything you're gunna be relying on luck at range

[viscid belfry]

so its good without be broken

[stray saddle]

for ranked

[keen gazelle]

I play for range, I understand how a long range weapon would work🤦‍♂️

[ruby iris]

at 25m you're gunna be hitting the arms stomach not the chest

[ruby iris]

[obsidian pebble]

Ppl said u can’t use mac at range either lol

[sand widget]

he's gonna be missing

[strange rivet]

Why would you even

[sand widget]

[ruby iris]

And that's a fact

Try doing a ring trial with the mac

[obsidian pebble]

I did it in ranked

[keen gazelle]

farthest I've gotten a low ttk on Mac is like maybe 13m lol

[obsidian pebble]

All the way to leggy

Solo

[ruby iris]

8 ring 40m

[obsidian pebble]

Dno what u man doing

[sand widget]

record a clip

go

[obsidian pebble]

Go die

[ruby iris]

Do it, or mac10 bad at range

[sand widget]

talking sum you can't prove

[obsidian pebble]

Strafe + high rof make it work tho

[ruby iris]

@obsidian pebble

[sand widget]

^

[obsidian pebble]

U think I gotta prove to u? U nerd stop @ me

[sand widget]

@obsidian pebble

do the challenge doe

or you talk shit

like you do always

[ruby iris]

Also, 300m/s bv

[obsidian pebble]

Just assume I talk shit then Idgaf lmao

Some any nobody chump

[sand widget]

sees chall
idgaf

[lost arch]

Does someone have a RUS loadout?

[ruby iris]

Good at range = having the potential to outgun the kilo at atleast 30m, condition being both shoots at the same time

[sand widget]

mono, light short barrel, no stock, tac laser, mag

[obsidian pebble]

Get ur money up not ur funny up

[ruby iris]

Light short to gran, bsa got fucked

Hard

[sand widget]

it did?

[ruby iris]

@obsidian pebble

[sand widget]

damn, maybe that then

[ruby iris]

Like 20% iirc

[sand widget]

when the chall doe

[sand widget]

i see

[obsidian pebble]

I ain’t say great, I’m saying doable, like in emergency, like having to hip fire a non hip fire gun in emergency cqc

[obsidian pebble]

When ur mum leave my crib I’ll do it

Busy rn

[sand widget]

i knew you wouldn't lol

all that banter and no shit proven

[obsidian pebble]

Because who are u? If U spoke with manners maybe I would

[sand widget]

L

[obsidian pebble]

But u talk rude

[sand widget]

you just cant

if you could, you would have shut me up

[obsidian pebble]

Ouch bro

[sand widget]

but your aim everywhere

[obsidian pebble]

Ur killing me

[sand widget]

[obsidian pebble]

I’m at work u nerd

[sand widget]

ye, sure

[obsidian pebble]

👌

[ruby iris]

It aint doable, you'll get deleted by bk and kn at that range lol

[obsidian pebble]

Sometimes

[stray saddle]

cbr needs anerf

it NEEDS A NERF

[obsidian pebble]

Y’all really never hit nobody up with mac at a lil range that’s ur business

[lyric dragon]

Definitely

[ruby iris]

Add 2 frames of ttk for every 10m pass the mark of 7m on top of your already bad ttk

[strange rivet]

I'm tired of cbr in tournament

[stray saddle]

it just needs a damage and fire rate nerf

[strange rivet]

More tired of mac thank god it's getting nerfed

[lyric dragon]

Same goes for M13 nerf

[stray saddle]

no buff m13

[lyric dragon]

that's what a noob say

[stray saddle]

no i main m13

[sand widget]

so buff it 💀

[stray saddle]

famas is not meta

anyways imma just go play gta

[undone sandal]

cbr needs range nerf

n recoil

[strange rivet]

So uh
Revert the recoil buff?

[undone sandal]

yes

it wasn't needed

unnecessary

[obsidian pebble]

True

[strange rivet]

They did the same thing with the kilo 141

[undone sandal]

mhm

it was balanced bc of skill based recoil

[obsidian pebble]

That’s why ppl didn’t main them til the season after they dropped

CBR anyway

[lyric dragon]

Fennec still op

[ruby iris]

Cbr nerf:
Bsa: 5.8 -> 5.2
Range: 11-17-25-inf -> 8-14-21-inf
+10% vertical recoil

Just my proposal btw

[granite rune]

If Holgae is best LMG, which one is the second best?

[dull gazelle]

M4lmg

[obsidian pebble]

Hades*

[keen gazelle]

the guns recoil is fine, if anything, the p90 plays like a mid range smg and the kilo 141 is a strong ar, it's the damn damage

[dull gazelle]

/build

[keen gazelle]

how does the p90 kill be in a lower time than an ar at range

I'm saying, make smg hella string close quarters and marshmallows at long range, who cares abt recoil

[dull gazelle]

The bullet ddrop

[keen gazelle]

or it has the damage of an ar and the range of an ar

yea in most games it does play like a mid range smg but dude the range needs a nerf

[dull gazelle]

But then it would be an AR

[granite rune]

... Is this an answer to my question or one of the points of your discussions?

[keen gazelle]

the recoil is fine, keep it, just make it shoot marshmallows at range so there's no point in killing from far

[ruby iris]

Add another range after 25m

[obsidian pebble]

Answered your question, assuming u talking bout mp. On br the best LMG might be PKM tbh

[keen gazelle]

#codm-discussion

[granite rune]

Sorry.

[bleak acorn]

Do I need to get gold on r9 and jak 12 too?

For platinum

[sand widget]

nah

[bleak acorn]

So only until echo

[sand widget]

ye i think

maybe not echo

echo was S10?

any after og s9, doesn't matter

[bleak acorn]

I got gold on everything else

Still don't have platinum

[sand widget]

might complete em all then

weird doe

[bleak acorn]

Damn

[undone sandal]

pinned on here

just check it

the requirements for dam

[obsidian pebble]

Echo and r90 needed for sg plat

[bleak acorn]

R90???

Bro

It was released like yesterday

Tf

[rich arch]

it was released 8 seasons ago

[strange rivet]

Hello my fellow people
It is I, hsuxhdbfgv (totally real)

and I can confirm this is The seasonal meta

[rich arch]

wtf lmfao

[granite rune]

Do we have a good M4LMG build?

[spark pasture]

anyone got the Black and gold M4LMG

[undone sandal]

i do

[obsidian pebble]

U done the worst of it already tho tbf

[bleak acorn]

What's the worst lol

I still have to do r9 and echo

[granite rune]

Ooh, turns out I do

[obsidian pebble]

R90 not bad, echo is erm

[bleak acorn]

Striker was cancer

[obsidian pebble]

Na but I mean u got 2 left u done the long bit

[strange rivet]

you can have no stock instead of tactical grip

[bleak acorn]

Yeah

[obsidian pebble]

If ur not doing sg longshots on hardcore u gonna have a non fun time

[undone sandal]

you don't need to do longshots anymore bc splinter camo sg is reworked

[bleak acorn]

They removed longshots on sg

[obsidian pebble]

The rest can do on shipment fairly quickly

[undone sandal]

it is now 2 kills without dying

[bleak acorn]

Yeah

[obsidian pebble]

Wuttt

[bleak acorn]

Thankfully

[obsidian pebble]

Damn

[undone sandal]

so the problem is gonna be headshots

[zealous hinge]

jak 12 slugs be like

[strange rivet]

I can't believe I wasted all this time with long shots

Just for them to change it

[obsidian pebble]

[strange rivet]

When I have them all gold

[bleak acorn]

It's hard to do hesdshots with semi automatic shotguns

[strange rivet]

Just shoot the head

[bleak acorn]

It's okay I did 3 gold with long shots

[obsidian pebble]

I just done longshots for every gun in the game last time hardcore was there

[bleak acorn]

Do u wanna 1v1

[undone sandal]

yea that's the problem i said

the hard part

[bleak acorn]

Yeah

[obsidian pebble]

Stack hipfire and spam high on shipment

[bleak acorn]

Who's peachybot here

[bleak acorn]

Doing exactly that lol

But still takes more time than all other skins

[obsidian pebble]

I’d rather get 2 sg gold then 150 Oden matches tho

Ar diamond grind is the worst

[ocean vine]

busy day hasnt unlocked oden

fixed build out yet?

saw paths build looks sus

[sand widget]

path did one, if you wanna try that

here, nah

[ocean vine]

i dont trust operator foregrip over range boost

[sand widget]

his gunsmiths could be weird at times

so who knows if it's optimal

[ocean vine]

the recoil is better than mow post first 6 bullets

[obsidian pebble]

No need for range boost tho unles u need 2 shot kill over 25 m

[keen gazelle]

path uses the subsonic rounds and then operator...

[slim ginkgo]

Any good BR loadouts smgs or AR

[keen gazelle]

I'm not against operator

but subsonic is for mid to close, what's the need for operator therr 🤦‍♂️

[obsidian pebble]

Is that minus 60% bullet speed on subsonic rounds bad?

[keen gazelle]

it takes like..

[obsidian pebble]

I don’t notice it yet but not used enough

[keen gazelle]

a solid second to get the bullet past 25m

[ocean vine]

no it seems worth it boosting 1st range

[keen gazelle]

that's what I've seen in training room

[sand widget]

lol

[ocean vine]

without boosting 1st range, its almost just the same as gks

rather just gks

[sand widget]

any tourney typa shit going on?

i wanna watch

[ocean vine]

lemme see

[obsidian pebble]

I see what u mean actually

[keen gazelle]

one rn

it's a crazy 1v9

[sand widget]

wot is it

[keen gazelle]

it's me against these dumbass teamates

[ocean vine]

mm was ysterday

[sand widget]

🤨

[sand widget]

lmao

understandable

[sand widget]

oo

thanks

ill check

[ocean vine]

just watch grizz tbh

[sand widget]

mmhmm

[obsidian pebble]

Even 1st damage range of Oden is 3 kill if u hit just legs tho

[ocean vine]

my skill level is at never hit legs

[zealous hinge]

three tap meta lesss gooo

[ocean vine]

only stomach few times

[sand widget]

292ms if a 3sk

[obsidian pebble]

So y u need first range boosted?

Cos second range is 2 shot as well for chest or head

[sand widget]

~300ms

meh

[zealous hinge]

we can work with that

pv is really bad tho

[sand widget]

yeah

mythic oden is really neat looking

itll make a bit if they buff it nice

[ocean vine]

u see gks is 10m 3 tap with usual build
first range of oden is 12m without range boosting
id rather use gks

with range boost oden has its own niche

[zealous hinge]

that doesn't answer why you need range boosted tho

[ocean vine]

it needs to become unique

desireable for use

[obsidian pebble]

But no statistical advantage?

Just making sure I got it right lol

[ocean vine]

whether u need or not is based on playstyle rly

[zealous hinge]

2 meters tho? not really unique especially for the downsides

[ocean vine]

4m+

16m with colossus

[zealous hinge]

hmm

[obsidian pebble]

Still confused cos 2nd range 2 shots to 25 by default and u said u don’t hit legs

Not questioning you I just tryna work out optimal build

[ocean vine]

i havent yet to address 2nd range

[deep glacier]

Colossus gives 12 meters of range?

[ocean vine]

been about 1st range

[deep glacier]

Wut

Oh wait, I'm dumb

[obsidian pebble]

It makes 12m 1st damage range become 16m and 25m 2nd damage range become 35m

[ocean vine]

2nd range is most likely 50:50 even pros to get 2 tap

for 35m 3 tap thats man o war range

prolly they gonna buff hitbox for arms 2nd range due to mythic next season

[zealous hinge]

so what is your final build for the oden

just wonderin

[obsidian pebble]

Then it’ll become spam

[ocean vine]

id test path build after unlock
but for mine its colossus supp, owc laser, short barrel, combat stock, gran

no mag

[zealous hinge]

what is the bsa value of the oden

[ocean vine]

not yet released

ppl been saying its better than mow

rly gud

looked good on training room thoi

[zealous hinge]

what, isn't it in the testing range and bp tho?

[vital fossil]

how busted is the oden?

[obsidian pebble]

We’ll get bsa value in next couple days most likely

[sand widget]

if you haven't unlocked, you can use it in training room only

if you have, you can use it on normal mp modes

[sand widget]

below avg rn

[ocean vine]

training room test has limit

[zealous hinge]

oh nvm he means he waiting for the testers to release bsa values

[ocean vine]

i want both statistics and practicality

which is testing on rankeds

[vital fossil]

also the new msmc blueprint is really good

the irons on it really is p2w

[sand widget]

irons are good yeah

[ocean vine]

yeah its p2w iron

[zealous hinge]

does it beat out wasteland irons tho

[sand widget]

ye

[zealous hinge]

huh

dang

[obsidian pebble]

No choice since I duno how to calculate myself

[zealous hinge]

same

[ocean vine]

good iron is where u can see enemies under ur crosshair

due to flinch or vert recoil u might lose sight of enemies in case of bad irons

[sand widget]

can ask someone in SoD

lemme try

[ocean vine]

oh also whether the blueprint is shaky or not

[vital fossil]

also this season's Oden BP is pretty fucking p2w too

[ocean vine]

yeah its pretty good

[zealous hinge]

idk, I just look for the slight red flash of the hipfire thing and the centering circle to be slightly darkened, but apparently the hbr irons are "bad"

[ocean vine]

hbr irons r fine

[vital fossil]

what is the most p2w battlepass ever?

[ocean vine]

never use red dots on hbr

[zealous hinge]

only reason I use red dots is because the sense value perfectly locks with the zoom of the base red dot sights

[ocean vine]

hbr iron cons is its shaky when shooting

the visibility around crosshair is fine

[sand widget]

still better than the wacky irons

[ocean vine]

lk

[zealous hinge]

is there a difference between the previous bp hbr irons and the base hbr irons?

[ocean vine]

last season

[near mountain]

Nah

[ocean vine]

jaguar hbr has worse irons than base

[sand widget]

bp ones were lil smaller

[near mountain]

Jaguar is like base but thinner

[zealous hinge]

really?

[sand widget]

but both goes in the same clustered pattern

bad

[near mountain]

Yea

[sand widget]

optic is nice

[near mountain]

Good hbr is black gold

[ocean vine]

yeah its blocking vision under crosshair

unlike base hbr

[sand widget]

black gold is diff right?

i forgor

[zealous hinge]

hmm what gun has the worst base irons tho

[near mountain]

Yes

[ocean vine]

lk

[sand widget]

i think it's like m13s curve

[ocean vine]

worst of the worst

it blocks not only vision under crosshair

[sand widget]

lk

[ocean vine]

but left and right too

[near mountain]

Black gold

[ocean vine]

also shaky

[sand widget]

ye ye thanks

that is cheese

[near mountain]

Imagine if they made a peacekeeper with that ironsight

[zealous hinge]

I'll just stick with the bone rattle peacekeeper skin

[near mountain]

Me too honestly

[ocean vine]

appreciate this seasons msmc bp

iron so good

[near mountain]

Icy spine rattle

[whole prawn]

.

[zealous hinge]

Show, interested in what they look like

[near mountain]

Ugly looking but with good ironsight

[zealous hinge]

Oh what the heck

That’s so clean

[near mountain]

Ikr

Even more clean than spine rattle

[zealous hinge]

Pkm irons look like they are default tho lmao

[near mountain]

Ye

Wanna know what's more clean

[zealous hinge]

Hbr swarm irons

[near mountain]

Nope

Getting plasma ghost for 10 cp

[zealous hinge]

Lmaooooo

[static dust]

I need help I'm looking for a gun with fast ads and little to no recoil I'm trying to get as many kills as possible on hard point shipment to get tier 21 I need good smg ar builds

[near mountain]

Try qxr

Mono sup, marksman barrel, no stock, rapid fire and the largest mag @static dust

I think it has 50 amo or so

You can spam with high firerate

[zealous hinge]

I’ll just give you this

[keen gazelle]

P90 and the Bizon

try the bizon man

fast ads, fast movement speed, zero reocil

[static dust]

Okay

[rich arch]

beri hot

[keen gazelle]

beri

[rich arch]

race to 1st place with kilo ba?

[keen gazelle]

race to #1 on leaderboard

[rich arch]

that's what I meant

[humble sand]

CBR still meta ew

[rich arch]

kilo ba beats all meta if you aggressive enough

[humble sand]

Yep

LK is beast too

[rich arch]

mean while my dumbass friend using sens, hud, gunsmith of some unknown stupid mf'ing YouTuber and blames his phone for losing

[humble sand]

Fr lol

[rich arch]

mhm

[humble sand]

But game is laggy in some phones

Ngl

[rich arch]

and says it's "good" and that he has to "get used to it"

mf has a phone the speed of mine and Im a beast

[humble sand]

Always low end device users that suffer better than ones with high end ones

[rich arch]

mhm

mine is mid end lol

[humble sand]

Same people that don't follow YouTube and gets their own build after real experience

[humble sand]

Same

[rich arch]

me myself and many others
fr it's better to make a build get sens and hud that fit you rather then someone elses

[rich arch]

pog

[humble sand]

I don't even change sens, never since 1st anniversary, HUD also

[rich arch]

I just adjust my sens according to my gamestyle

still gotta find that perfect sens for my pure aimbot

[humble sand]

I prefer high sens , since it helps as i use thumbs only

[rich arch]

5 fingers = move it move it

gud hud

[humble sand]

Seems good indeed , tried 3 max but didn't stand it

Need bigger monitor for that

[rich arch]

it's all about getting used to it lmao

[humble sand]

Small screen phone isn't made for that

[rich arch]

I had a smaller screen before and still used 5

just made it comfy

[kindred wind]

Who got aggressive ak47 gunsmith?

[rich arch]

just pew pew with it

[kindred wind]

The ads is too slow i always get killed

[strange rivet]

[rich arch]

Anyone have a good pkm build?

[royal dagger]

Camp with this one:
Tac suppressor, ranger barrel or smthn (not marksman, not light barrel), large mag, tac laser, disable

[next ember]

Any pk build for s&d?

[keen gazelle]

that sounds like your playstle just gets your killed alot

[royal dagger]

Agency supp, taskforce barrel, double stack, agile stock, firm tape

[odd heath]

damn i never knew how beautiful Pharaoh variant looked with camos

[next ember]

Man pk always getting buffs but it never shines

[royal dagger]

Only gold looks best

[royal dagger]

I main it

[next ember]

Amax suits better for me

[hard pilot]

is the holger still a good lmg?

[royal dagger]

Yea

[hard pilot]

do you have a aggressive build for it?

well for snd

[urban socket]

Huh

Aggressive holger build?

Does that even exist

[zealous hinge]

Tactical Suppressor
No Stock
Disable/FMJ
Granulated Grip Tape/Red dot sight
Tac laser

As aggressive as I can give ya

[hard pilot]

what about the mag

[urban socket]

Disable and fmj seem useless for a aggro build

[zealous hinge]

the mag is 100 rounds

[urban socket]

Base mag is 100 bullets

What else do you want

[hard pilot]

no i mean are any of the mags usefull the attachments

[zealous hinge]

disable so you don't have as much as a pain dealing with mac 10 strafe

[urban socket]

Gran needed since the bsa eh

[zealous hinge]

fmj just because fmj

[urban socket]

I doubt anyone would use holger in 1v1 close range fight against a fucking mac10

[hard pilot]

another question is any gun usefull for snd in firing range cus my friends are doing custom and thats the map always can i use any weapon in that they are using one of the most annoying weapons

[urban socket]

Use meta weapons

[hard pilot]

such as?

i havent played this game in forever sorry

[urban socket]

Cbr
Mac10
Kilo
Ak117
Gks

Currently meta

[hard pilot]

gks

[urban socket]

Yes

[hard pilot]

what attachments can i use for it?

[urban socket]

After buff it’s decent

[urban socket]

Suppressor barrel
Laser tac
Ext mag
Combat stock
Gran

[hard pilot]

thank you

40 ext?

[urban socket]

Yea

Would recommend 32 fast reload

But I use 40 mag cuz potato aim

[hard pilot]

😭 same

thank you have a good day

[urban socket]

Yw

[hard pilot]

i beg you give me a gun i can use i have like more than potato aim

[hard pilot]

nvm found one

[winged falcon]

anyone have the Oden yet? how is it?

[keen gazelle]

playstlye man playstyle, I use any gun I want cause I just like to play for fun but either way I land top 3 in rooms

[keen gazelle]

could be better but plays veryy well close to mid

hoping it gets a buff

[winged falcon]

thanks! can't wait!!

[keen gazelle]

here's some quick gameplay of it

[winged falcon]

sweeeet! thx for that gameplay

[rocky anvil]

I was trying to make a PPSH-41 gunsmith and i created this
Its a beast

[stuck depot]

Gks n 117 isnt meta

[slim ginkgo]

117 kinda is

Gks ehh could slide maybe

[stuck depot]

They r top 10 but not meta

[slim ginkgo]

117 is really good in br and mp havent tried but did use for a sec

[stuck depot]

Both mac 10 n p90 beats gks

Both m13 n kilo beats 117

[slim ginkgo]

Depends game mode ig

N how good u are

[stuck depot]

This gud

[pure turret]

This should be good for the 117 right

[pure turret]

My dude that’s last season…

[rich arch]

Max lvl Oden class?

[royal dagger]

Yes

[azure sequoia]

GKS BR build

[royal dagger]

Use for hipfire
Flash guard, 45 round, short barrel, 5mw laser, merc grip

[azure sequoia]

thx

[keen gazelle]

this is the one I've been using soo far

honestly, mono supp is enough or even ext. barrel

I just use the colossus supp because it looks cool lol

[rich arch]

I was joking, I don’t even have it yet, your a good person

[keen gazelle]

[opal ore]

That's a long suppressor

[keen gazelle]

he long boi

[opal ore]

@keen gazelle hey long uhh

Idk

[pure turret]

That suppressor thicc af

[willow orbit]

where’d you get that suppressor 💳

[lost relic]

That suppressor is a worthy opponent for gks’ int-sup.

[weary totem]

Mp meta pls

[lost relic]

CBR, Mac-10, kilo 141 & m13

[stray rapids]

Asm, m4, pdw

[weary totem]

Tbh been using the pdw since last season and it's good... But it's boring now... I wanna try something else. Might go back to the LK24.... I miss the good old days

[keen gazelle]

Amax

use the amax

wrong clip

[rich arch]

Oden gunsmith ???

[keen gazelle]

here's my current gunsmith

the supp is just for looks lol, monolithic works fine

[keen gazelle]

use the amax, its got zero recoil

[rich arch]

Tysm imma try it

[remote ridge]

How’s the oden feel so far?

[rich arch]

What do y’all think is the best sniper/marksman rifle

[royal dagger]

Dlq for snipers, spr for marksman

[waxen elm]

What's the loadout for that amax?

[tranquil vigil]

117 is top 5

[tranquil vigil]

and ak117

[rich arch]

Mind giving me a load out of those two guns?

[royal dagger]

Dlq: light barrel, mag a, combat stock, light suppressor, sleight of hand
Spr: Light barrel, combat stock, .300 round, tact foregrip, tac supp/sight/sleight of hand

[tranquil vigil]

switch soh with fmj if u want, and light sup/mag a wit laser

[rich arch]

Thx as always!

[tranquil vigil]

if u prefer it

[grand elbow]

Any good meta CBR?

[obsidian pebble]

Similar, love this build

Gonna try urs tho since short barrel got more benefits then combat

[pure turret]

Should I use SoH or 40 mag cause I haven’t used asm in awhile

[grand elbow]

Thanks my guy

[royal dagger]

Change short barrel to ranger barrel
Soh to flash guard cuz the reload speed got buffed, also more accuracy decreases aimshake on asm

[sinful leaf]

M4lmg for BR?

[pure turret]

I don’t really have a problem with the guns recoil so do I really need the flash guard ?

[royal dagger]

Aimshake =/= recoil

Aimshake is when the screen starts shaking while you're firing

Dunno who else doesn't know that

[pure turret]

Doesn’t bother me so I barely notice it

[rich arch]

Who has damaucas here?

[brave musk]

Any Oden Alternative gunsmith

[next flume]

Me

[rich arch]

I want to congratulate you

[next flume]

It wasn’t easy at all

Especially longshots with snipers

[rich arch]

That was easy for me

[next flume]

Ok

Liar but okay

[rich arch]

Just khander hideout spawn from spawn or firing range

That sniper with one tracker and one explosion is gonna be hard

[ruby iris]

Hello peepole

[keen gazelle]

mine is mainly built for how I play but if you want the amax In the clip, here it is

I traded owc laser for tac foregrip a since I'm already okay with the ads speed and lasers give away your position

[ruby iris]

Bee ecks eyy

[keen gazelle]

bxa

[ruby iris]

[royal dagger]

Damn
Use 33 round then (or soh if you can use 25 rounds)

[ruby iris]

Me when ppl complain about recoil on asm but refuses to invest in bsa even after i gave them a fucking tedtalk about how bsa affects recoil on recoil stabilisation weapon like asm and fr

[pure turret]

Me

[ruby iris]

Damasuck

I fucking hate damascus grind

[pure turret]

Why it’s not even that hard 😂

I just need to wait for the ksp and the lcar to come out so I can grind them and uninstall the game again

[ruby iris]

Yes, but it's too annoying, i went for damas secondary

Regret it so much

[clever ivy]

Anyone got a good mp spr build?

[pure turret]

But that’s the easy part

[ruby iris]

Nah, fuck launchers

[clever ivy]

Can I remove red dot for tac lazer?

[pure turret]

I did launchers on OG shipment very easy and quick

Since they changed the challenges it should be easier now I think

[ruby iris]

Reddot to tac a fg, laser is useless

[pure turret]

Laser doesn’t do much at all

Don’t need it

[ruby iris]

They changed it

[clever ivy]

Ah ok

[pure turret]

All it really does is reveal ur location

[ruby iris]

[pure turret]

Yea

I saw someone using a legendary d13 earlier lmao

[ruby iris]

Why change, i spent so much time waiting for the 10 shields

[pure turret]

Knowing the pain he must be going through cause it took me 6 hours to grind that gun

[pure turret]

Lmfao

[ruby iris]

The only thing i dont have gold on rn is oden and d13

And you know what?

Fuck the d13

I give up on all damas

[pure turret]

I finished everything

But I’m not grinding diamond for all the weapons

Tbh they should’ve made it like the other cods

[stuck depot]

117 isnt top 5

[pure turret]

When u finish all the weapons in that category instead of platinum you’d get diamond

[tranquil vigil]

it is

ask vague

[pure turret]

Nah we gotta play thousands of matches

[ruby iris]

117 is top 5 ar, but not top 5 all guns imo

[stuck depot]

So ur telling me 117 is better than m13 kilo mac 10 p90 sks n svd

[tranquil vigil]

nope

[stuck depot]

So its not top 5

[tranquil vigil]

sks and svd need more skill tho

[pure turret]

I used 117 earlier I wouldn’t say it’s top 5 in the game

[tranquil vigil]

its spot no 5

[stuck depot]

Bro it probly a top 5 ar but no where in top 5 for all guns

[ruby iris]

Top 5 all guns would be like

[pure turret]

I would say top 10-15ish

[ruby iris]

P90
Mac
Bk
Svd/sks

[tranquil vigil]

too much to count bro

15 ish

[stuck depot]

Bk?

[tranquil vigil]

bk - 57

[pure turret]

But it’s not that good to be one of the top weapons in the game

Cause it gets outclassed by a lot of other guns

[ruby iris]

Ye, bk > kilo

Better range and mobility

[stuck depot]

Wheres m13 then

[tranquil vigil]

indeed yes

[tranquil vigil]

m13 is in top 5

[pure turret]

Definitely above the kilo

[ruby iris]

M13=kilo

[tranquil vigil]

mac 10, cbr, kilo, m13, 117

[pure turret]

I like m13 better in my own opinion

[stuck depot]

Naw m13 more close n kilo long

117 isnt top 5

[pure turret]

💀

[tranquil vigil]

it is

[stuck depot]

It isnt

[pure turret]

It’s really not 😂

[tranquil vigil]

give it anti recoil atachments, you'll see

[neat basin]

xp grind time

[stuck depot]

Bro its not

[pure turret]

My dude 117 doesn’t even have that much recoil lmfao

[tranquil vigil]

beats pk and amax

[neat basin]

then youre going to make it slow

[tranquil vigil]

sry my bad suck at recoil control

[neat basin]

plus it has ez recoil

[ruby iris]

117 would be top 5 if it had a predictable recoil pattern and slightly more lethality

Rn it's like top 6-10

[pure turret]

Imagine giving recoil control attachments to a gun that barely even has any noticeable recoil

[tranquil vigil]

but still its got a good

range and damage

[stuck depot]

Dudes only saying its top 5 becuz vague said so

[keen gazelle]

🤦‍♂️

[pure turret]

💀

[ruby iris]

Ye ik

[neat basin]

ak117 is good ar, but not the best gun

[keen gazelle]

^

[tranquil vigil]

no srsly vague or no vague it is

[neat basin]

its like the batman and the dark knight

[pure turret]

It’s just “good” balanced like AR

[tranquil vigil]

yeh its not the best

[ruby iris]

@tranquil vigil

[keen gazelle]

also dub blue weapon camo

[tranquil vigil]

but its top 5

[neat basin]

good batman movie but the other is the overall better movie

[keen gazelle]

I swear it's always the blue ones that look soo good

[pure turret]

It’s really not lmao

[tranquil vigil]

...to others yes

[stuck depot]

Vague only plays the game he doesn’t do any stat testing

[neat basin]

yes

[ruby iris]

Looks kinda like the pattern on mother pearl

[tranquil vigil]

idk if im losing this convo cuz im the only one with a different opinion but idk

[keen gazelle]

does anybody else appreciate codm's blue camos

some of them are actually really good

[tranquil vigil]

...r u sure

[neat basin]

strapped goated camo

[tranquil vigil]

its gud

[neat basin]

very much so

[pure turret]

Also in facts because in all stats and shown in gunfight situations the 117 gets beaten a lot still

[ruby iris]

Yes, he doesnt do stats

[tranquil vigil]

yo he makes a top 5 video every season

[sweet current]

Hmm

[tranquil vigil]

yesn't

[neat basin]

doesnt mean its always right

[stuck depot]

Dude fr just a vague fan boy n trust everything he says

[pure turret]

Mans is really d riding

[ruby iris]

Ferg also makes a top guns every seasons

[tranquil vigil]

i ain't no fan boy

[neat basin]

"chicom is meta" says vague

[tranquil vigil]

he justa good playe

r

[tranquil vigil]

yes🙃

hehe

[pure turret]

So we not gonna acknowledge there are people literally better than him in here

[stuck depot]

Yet ur trusting his 117 top 5 spot n defending it as if ur life depends on it

[neat basin]

[tranquil vigil]

lets wait then

i know ill lose anyway

i just belive its in the top 5

[neat basin]

legit amber heard type of defending

[tranquil vigil]

believe

[keen gazelle]

we need more camos like these alr I'm done lol

[pure turret]

“Heresy ur honor”

[tranquil vigil]

oof

[neat basin]

objection

[tranquil vigil]

i fugin hate amber hear

d

[neat basin]

whats the second one

that looks good

[ruby iris]

Throwback to when pro players banned the wicht warden cuz they thought the hole in the stomach made hitbox smaller

[tranquil vigil]

does that have platinum?????

[ruby iris]

[pure turret]

Platinum camo ugly af

Just plain and depressing

[neat basin]

i hear some still think that

[tranquil vigil]

no im just confused how it went from silver to silverer

[neat basin]

[keen gazelle]

BK57 - Low Frequency

[tranquil vigil]

or is it different skins

[pure turret]

That is called lighting

[pure turret]

Yes that too

[keen gazelle]

nope, it's just a blue weapon camo

[tranquil vigil]

oh sry my eyes

[neat basin]

[ruby iris]

pro players are smort and should be trusted

[tranquil vigil]

agreeeeddd

[neat basin]

• most of everybody

[ruby iris]

Me when ppl dont understand sarcasm

[neat basin]

whats sarcasm

[unique schooner]

What the fuck is ppl

[neat basin]

some type of energy drink or

[tranquil vigil]

lieing but in a good way

[tranquil vigil]

food

[unique schooner]

is it good?

[neat basin]

i think some type of real estate company

[tranquil vigil]

very, ask rapers

[unique schooner]

so real estate food?

[tranquil vigil]

yah

[ruby iris]

Peepole