codm-gunsmith-help

[cedar horizon]

Monolithic, Operator, 5mw, Ext Mag, Light Barrel/Ext Light Barrel

No.

[native swift]

full control

[reef stump]

mine

[cedar horizon]

5mw over RTC

Becuase STF

[golden spire]

Why rtc?

[reef stump]

hipfire

[cedar horizon]

Use 5mw for Hipfire and STF

[dapper dagger]

Dis my recommended

[golden spire]

Yup

[cedar horizon]

Can use OWC if you dont hipfire

[reef stump]

i love hipfiring with fennec ngl

[limber sail]

what's the stat?

[limpid birch]

This is a gun for going aggressive

[reef stump]

bruh

[cedar horizon]

Gud

[cedar horizon]

No. Part 2

[dapper dagger]

Foregrip better and if you're good with recoil, use this

[golden spire]

I rather use operator Instead of Rubberized grip

[dapper dagger]

Really slow. Not worth it

[golden spire]

As a Peacekeeper main... I approve this bulid cuz I use this Lol

[cedar horizon]

Thats fine

[limber sail]

[cedar horizon]

You can use either really

[limpid birch]

The pattern isn't good so I'd rather stick with my build than go extra movement since I have the QQ9 and M13 for going aggressive lol

[golden spire]

I just like the way fennec looks with foregrip hehe

[native swift]

i dont like gun has bad accurate and control bruh

[cedar horizon]

Guilty pleasure of mine is to use bad builds just because they look cool

[golden spire]

Lmao

[reef stump]

nah its ez to control

[cedar horizon]

You dont need to go all out control bru

[limber sail]

is ads movement speed important for AR?

[limpid birch]

That's a good one, it melts at all ranges

[cedar horizon]

• where the mobility

[reef stump]

no

[dapper dagger]

Yea but the Strafe speed reduction isn't worth it in this faster movement speed meta. Foregrip is around the same horizontal recoil Control for you to keep control over vertical recoil

[reef stump]

it's better for smg

[cedar horizon]

For the M13 and Type its good but for others not so much

AK117 too

[native swift]

yes i need the gun both med and close range

[limber sail]

🤔

[golden spire]

M13

[limpid birch]

It's and aggressive AR not and SMG

[reef stump]

no

[dapper dagger]

Wha?

[cedar horizon]

???

[reef stump]

if it's for br then yes

[limber sail]

because every gun i build always focus mobility

i don't want to be SLOW

[dapper dagger]

Great

[cedar horizon]

I just focus on balance

[reef stump]

so u build max speed fennec?

[cedar horizon]

This gud

[native swift]

unlike me bruh i like accurate

[limber sail]

i haveb't and never use it yet

[cedar horizon]

Nah he just means he doesnt wanna be slow

[limber sail]

@reef stump

[limpid birch]

Bruh u people like movement so much use SMGs lmao

[reef stump]

o

[limber sail]

moving while shooting and moving while ADS-ing

[reef stump]

balance na45

[cedar horizon]

Wtf do you mean?? You're building a recoil stacked AS VAL for what fucking purpose?

Just use the M13 or Type jesus

[reef stump]

got like 12 kills with it

[limpid birch]

Can't u see it's a low recoil build?

[dapper dagger]

ARs work great too. More Versatile options over SMGs. For Accuracy, if you build it right, you can use it at any range. About recoil, just learn to control it lol

[cedar horizon]

Id use Compensator cus kick

[cedar horizon]

BUT WHYYYY

[limber sail]

at least reduce ads bullet spread

[reef stump]

so u play smg like ar?

[dapper dagger]

But it's something you can control

[limpid birch]

Because it has high recoil that ruin its accuracy over 25 meters

[cedar horizon]

He uses LMG like Giant Tortoise

[reef stump]

nah dat thing already good, lil bit vertical but not that bad

[cedar horizon]

Why would you use the AS VAL over 25 meters, It's an aggressive AR

[dapper dagger]

Asval isn't even good at range

[limpid birch]

The ADS on that thing is pretty decent

[reef stump]

bruh

[cedar horizon]

Nah he loses credibility

Big no no

[dapper dagger]

Nah it isn't. For the ranges it's good at, just use this

[native swift]

i guess u guys will say bad

[limpid birch]

Wdym, it has high damage at range, high fire rate and 4 tap at 20 meters is pretty good

[cedar horizon]

If you still find it too difficult to control the recoil put on Operator or Rubberized @limpid birch

[waxen talon]

Ah shiet tencent

[native swift]

look at the range

[reef stump]

recoil

[dapper dagger]

It is

[reef stump]

real bad after 10 bullet

[waxen talon]

I can't access CODM

Ah ****

[limpid birch]

That's why I uses strike foregrip rather than piranha

[reef stump]

bruh

[cedar horizon]

No

[dapper dagger]

Worst attachment

[reef stump]

use operator foregrip

this guy hurting me

[limpid birch]

How so?

[waxen talon]

Anyone know how to talk with tencent?

[cedar horizon]

You're sacrificing the good attributes of the gun to make a half assed gun that isn't even supposed to be used at that range

[limber sail]

what is piranha foregrip stats?

[native swift]

me

[limpid birch]

It ads recoil and BSA at the same time

[waxen talon]

.

[dapper dagger]

High damage looks cool until you realise that it's stk and BV increases ttk

[native swift]

i use Gameloop

[waxen talon]

That was a big trouble

[cedar horizon]

Piranha isnt the best but it can be used, Strike is the problem

[waxen talon]

Face identify

[reef stump]

look at this -1.0 mov speed

[waxen talon]

I buy this ID to identify

[cedar horizon]

15% strafe man

[waxen talon]

But tencent...

[native swift]

ah

[reef stump]

and this, this is better

[limber sail]

i'm not gonna memorize all of it

[reef stump]

no movement speed downside

[cedar horizon]

And for the AS VAL Rubberized is even better since you can mobility stack

[dapper dagger]

Or just learn to control it lol

[robust musk]

me who cares about aesthetic and refuses to use any foregrips

[limpid birch]

1% movement speed and -15% ads movement speed isn't alot, your enemy would be dead already by the time u move an inch with that gun

[reef stump]

yes lmao

[cedar horizon]

I think he's just showing Foregrips, we're we talking about the VAL?

[robust musk]

15% strafe is huge

[waxen talon]

Hey

[reef stump]

true

[limber sail]

Mainly foregrip in AR is to reduce vertical recoil

[cedar horizon]

Strafe is bigger problem than Movement speed btw

[robust musk]

16% even, it basically takes away all thestrafe you gain from skele stock or quick response barrel

[dapper dagger]

So what's M13's time to kill?

[limpid birch]

Super heavy build for camping, not good for sure but it's just funny how heavy u can go with it

[cedar horizon]

You're basically standing still adsed if you're also using other slow attachments that reduce strafe

[reef stump]

ew

[cedar horizon]

Oh come on not even 200 mag for camping

[robust musk]

when you adopt the drae sentry style play

[limpid birch]

That doesn't mean much if you can jump while aiming

[limber sail]

Not so good

[reef stump]

hybrid

[dapper dagger]

Better

[cedar horizon]

^

[reef stump]

camping and rushing lol

[limpid birch]

Incredibly fast, thats why I don't build it for movement speed when I can predict where my enemies come and aim already

[limber sail]

i approve this

[robust musk]

why even attempt bhopping when you have no strafe you'll be jumping on a spot

[limpid birch]

I know

[dapper dagger]

Not really "incredibly fast"

[limpid birch]

I don't use it like that

[rich arch]

m13's 5stk ttk is slow

[limpid birch]

It's just super heavy lol

[rich arch]

273 ms iirc

[cedar horizon]

And then there's the position where an enemy gets the upperhand and sees you before you see them

[limber sail]

halo pharo

[reef stump]

yup

[cedar horizon]

They start to shoot, and you're still adsing your cancer inducing build

[reef stump]

true

[limpid birch]

It's has one of the fastest TTK wdym?

[rich arch]

for an "incredibly fast" ttk u will need atleast 1 headshot

[reef stump]

bruh

[rich arch]

only if u headshot 🚮

[cedar horizon]

Honestly if you wanna win the game just show your enemies your builds

[dapper dagger]

Nope. 280ms. Average.

[limpid birch]

Yep, that's why whenever I'm bored I use that build and camp with tripmine

[rich arch]

273 🚮

[cedar horizon]

Wb your MoW and Val?

[limpid birch]

That's far above average, that's why its meta

[rich arch]

type 25's ttk is 210 fyi

[cedar horizon]

No its meta because its the most versatile gun in the game rn

[robust musk]

meta avg is like 220 tho

[dapper dagger]

It's not lol. For an LMG it's good, but ttk is slower compared to other meta guns

[cedar horizon]

Also 60 round mag

[rich arch]

fennec is 216, i dont remember p90's ttk

[limpid birch]

I don't have Val as of now since I use alot of snipers and some other ARs, it gets boring when u use it alot

[reef stump]

and ez to control recoil

[dapper dagger]

225. Same as Asval

[rich arch]

yeah pkm 4stk ttk is around 280

[cedar horizon]

P90 is also better close range than M13 im sure

[reef stump]

u can beam someone like 50 meters away

[rich arch]

[cedar horizon]

Sniper builds, now

[limpid birch]

Compared to meta for sure lmao, I'm talking about every single gun that's why it's far above average TTK

[cedar horizon]

And then there's the moment your enemy has a faster ttk gun
You seem to find yourself in great danger

[dapper dagger]

Nah. Some guns which are off meta kill faster

[limpid birch]

I don't screenshot them since they're common builds lol, but if u want it's all ADS and suppressor

[cedar horizon]

Mk thankfully not bad

[limpid birch]

Except for NA and rytec

[velvet plinth]

is it a good idea to put disable in a br build

[reef stump]

bruh

[limpid birch]

Such as?

[cedar horizon]

Eh @dapper dagger

Me not BR player

[dapper dagger]

KN44, Asm10, Pharo, RPD, LK24, BK57

[velvet plinth]

some people really have like 1k ave dmg for br bruh

[reef stump]

fenneks

[limpid birch]

That's why I use earphones and play SND, I can easily predict enemies even the snipers

[dapper dagger]

On LMGs, yes

[dapper dagger]

Fennec is meta

[velvet plinth]

ar naw?

[reef stump]

i rarely see it lol

[cedar horizon]

Dead silence? Common as fuck in SND

[robust musk]

ur lucky

fennec mains scary

[dapper dagger]

Sure i guess? On Ak47, Swordfish etc

[cedar horizon]

Same

[reef stump]

i see people full with shitty gun srsly

fennec akimbo, bk57, icr

[cedar horizon]

Some dude got salty when I pulled out the Fennec after his team was using Types and M13s

[limpid birch]

I can still hear them

[fast grove]

Fennec mains slay

[cedar horizon]

What?

[robust musk]

[reef stump]

bruh

my guy do be have insane hearing

[fast grove]

[cedar horizon]

You can't hear dead silence users when they walk which most people do in a mode like snd

[cedar horizon]

Ong man breaking the game levels of earphones

[reef stump]

lmaoo

[robust musk]

CBR ≥ Fennec > MX9 > QQ9

[velvet plinth]

rarely see people actually walk instead of sprint when trying to defuse and stuf

[cedar horizon]

Vouch

[cedar horizon]

Havent seen a me, Mario

[velvet plinth]

bruh qq9 worse than mx9? f

[reef stump]

yes

[robust musk]

Wonder if any QQ9 stans will reply to me

[cedar horizon]

Also what servers?

[dapper dagger]

P90 straight up meta. Cygnoux gonna prove P90 > Type

[cedar horizon]

If it aint a sweaty server its uncommon most likely

[fast grove]

Don't disrespect my QQ9

[robust musk]

QQ9 stans always get triggered by that

[fast grove]

[dapper dagger]

I'm with you. We gon fight togetha

[cedar horizon]

It is thi

[native swift]

O MY GOD

[cedar horizon]

Statistically bad but best aesthetic

[native swift]

the new m13 gunsmith is so op

[dapper dagger]

Yea it is. I'm 100% sure

[velvet plinth]

skulker helps with strafing right?

[robust musk]

I didnt disrespect ur QQ9, I just respected ur MX9 more

[native swift]

thanks guys :3

[fast grove]

All of a sudden I see 6/10 players have the P90 in a game, it's crazy

[reef stump]

bruh

[cedar horizon]

Always welcome

[dapper dagger]

@robust musk for you my brotha

[reef stump]

lol i only see like 3/10

[dapper dagger]

[fast grove]

Where'd the sudden shift come from

[limpid birch]

Can't find the other ones too many screenshots

[reef stump]

or even none p90 user

[cedar horizon]

I want them to not announce it aside from the server

[robust musk]

i appreciate

[dapper dagger]

It's really good. I love it

[cedar horizon]

As soon as a youtuber announces a gun is meta my servers are filled with that gun

[fast grove]

Ye the P90 is fire

[reef stump]

so fucking true

[fast grove]

I use it as an AR alongside my M13 and type

[cedar horizon]

I actually thought the P90 was kinda dumb at first because of the kick

Then I watch Cyg's vid on it

[fast grove]

Now that I think about it it's probably because Noah made a vid about the P90

[cedar horizon]

Tried it with his build and fell in love

[native swift]

my favourite AR is amax and m13

[torn warren]

full aggro playstyle with p90 is fire

[cedar horizon]

Cygn did it first

[dapper dagger]

I loved it all along. The fire rate and range was just mwah

[distant lotus]

Hey annie

[distant lotus]

Sup syko

[cedar horizon]

I didnt even realise how much fucking potential it had at range until I tried it again

[distant lotus]

[fast grove]

I only saw an influx in P90 users after Noah's vid

[native swift]

my smg are qxr and mp5

[cedar horizon]

Bun

[fast grove]

Helo Bunny

[distant lotus]

Yes that honey bun

[limber sail]

cancer

[reef stump]

bruh

[distant lotus]

U sure?

[cedar horizon]

I didnt know Noah made a vid but yeah probably, I still dont see as many P90s as M13s and Types

And im happy with that

[dapper dagger]

As I said

[fast grove]

Lucky man

[cedar horizon]

They simp for you

[fast grove]

All my games have half the lobby with P90s now

[cedar horizon]

Sussy bak

[distant lotus]

They don't hehe

[limpid birch]

Dead silence doesn't completely remove the sounds, it has been like that for seasons

[distant lotus]

[cedar horizon]

It does for walking

[fast grove]

Ye dead silence kinda buggy rn

[dapper dagger]

Nah, it's fixed

[cedar horizon]

Works fine for me idk

[dapper dagger]

Works great now

[limpid birch]

That's why I use tripmine

[fast grove]

that's cool then

[torn warren]

dead silence with hard wired

[cedar horizon]

I cant hear footsteps regardless without earphones even if my enemy is running without deaddy

[reef stump]

seeing people die from trip mine is hilarious

[limpid birch]

Even if they walk I know where to expect them,

[cedar horizon]

Hard Wired overrated nobody uses tripmines anymore, atleast not in Indian servers

[fast grove]

@dapper dagger gib P90 for an AR playstyle

[reef stump]

like bro that shit is Infront of ur face

[cedar horizon]

Except ME

[torn warren]

garena snds

[dapper dagger]

Here

[cedar horizon]

Mono, Marksman, Light Stock, Tac, SOH

[limpid birch]

It's like seeing people walk over shit

[cedar horizon]

Ah I see

[fast grove]

Thanks

That's what I use

[reef stump]

cancerous

[dapper dagger]

[cedar horizon]

Meta

[distant lotus]

Thank u for diamond

[cedar horizon]

I use SOH over Granulated

[reef stump]

3 people play sniper even after losing 3 time

[dapper dagger]

[distant lotus]

I diamond it but barely use it

I master ak47 but barely use it

[cedar horizon]

I want to use it but I also dont wanna be a toxic shitass meta abuser

[fast grove]

People in garena have inflated egos

Even if they're losing with 0 kills they won't switch away from their beloved sniper

[limpid birch]

There are blind spots in maps where enemies don't look at and expect u to rush, that's how I flank safely

[fast grove]

[distant lotus]

I fucking have guns to finish gold and haven't ;-;

[reef stump]

fax

[cedar horizon]

And from the looks of it alot of them just tty to be like their idols

[velvet plinth]

bruh if i dont switch in that situation my ego would flatten

[cedar horizon]

Like Hanzu

[limpid birch]

For example crash, hug the wall on long B, the snipers won't see u

[fast grove]

Or hope

[distant lotus]

garena player

[velvet plinth]

hanzu set the community back

[fast grove]

Yes, what's the problem?

[distant lotus]

[velvet plinth]

sniping in crash feels like crap tbh

[limpid birch]

You would more likely see sniper gods than noobs that spam snipers, even if u see noobs with snipers they'll switch eventually

[cedar horizon]

Thanks for the build

[distant lotus]

Eh diamond still better

[cedar horizon]

Always

[rich arch]

Nobody can talk about garena

[cedar horizon]

So anyways Garena amirite?

[reef stump]

i can

[limpid birch]

If you're crap then yes, there's a butt ton of angles

[fast grove]

Not in my games

[distant lotus]

And u put more work than aether

[rich arch]

Respect

[cedar horizon]

Hehe boi

[distant lotus]

Which does this belong to ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ

[fast grove]

Ong

[distant lotus]

[fast grove]

That's mine

[reef stump]

dogshit teammates that use sniper after they die every round xd

[distant lotus]

Cap

[limpid birch]

That's trash

[fast grove]

Bruh

[distant lotus]

No 🧢

[cedar horizon]

I know???

[limpid birch]

Use 45 round

[reef stump]

bruh

[rich arch]

Givr me QXR gunsmith

[distant lotus]

Ik its urs @fast grove

[torn warren]

i have now realized that qxr feels better without EB

[cedar horizon]

Bruh stop tryna give me advice

[rich arch]

Give*

[dapper dagger]

Didn't i give you one?

[distant lotus]

No attachments

[dapper dagger]

[rich arch]

Now

[gray solar]

I’m back

[rich arch]

Need more

[fast grove]

I make these kinds of edits man

[cedar horizon]

Enhanced Bolt, Tac Laser, Ext Mag/No Stock, Granulated, Mono

[strange thistle]

@gray solar yay ur back

[distant lotus]

@gray solar WHY HAVEN'T U DIED

[cedar horizon]

Sup back

[rich arch]

Wa

[distant lotus]

Jesus Christ DIDN'T U NOT HEAR ME SAY IK?

[gray solar]

Cuz I was born in the dark

[fast grove]

He was back a day or two ago wasn't he

[reef stump]

jamal

[strange thistle]

@gray solar u got ur main acc back let's go

[rich arch]

[fast grove]

No, say it louder

[dapper dagger]

Marksman barrel, Tac laser, No stock, Granulated griptape and Enhanced bolt

[velvet plinth]

true but A is pretty hard to get an easy shot at, mid has all that junk to cover with, i rarely see people in long b

[distant lotus]

But I merely adapted

[native swift]

this is my best gunsmith

[distant lotus]

Ok DADDY😩

[rich arch]

Ty daddy

[distant lotus]

Oh I mean mommy :3

[fast grove]

wtF

[native swift]

?

[distant lotus]

ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ

[fast grove]

[cedar horizon]

Taskforce, Agile Stock, Double Stack, Foregrip, Rustle grip tape, try this

[distant lotus]

[cedar horizon]

[fast grove]

Field agent foregrip actually op on the pk

[distant lotus]

[cedar horizon]

Yes but me chad Agency Suppressor user

[fast grove]

Downsides aren't that bad imo and you can fight me for it

[limpid birch]

All ranger

[cedar horizon]

Its very good

[strange thistle]

Not even best gunsmith

[reef stump]

what

[limpid birch]

Laser would give away your position

[cedar horizon]

Light Trigger instead of Strike

[reef stump]

ok?

[cedar horizon]

You are not gonna hardscope with an NA45, stahp.

[limpid birch]

Inaccurate at longer ranges

[fast grove]

Who hardscopes with an na

[reef stump]

bro wtf

[fast grove]

[cedar horizon]

Why would you use NA long range?

[reef stump]

yeah like srsly

[limpid birch]

Depends if you're going to predict or not, it only gives 3% ADS speed not worth it

[fast grove]

I use it to shoot the cars long range

[reef stump]

worth it

[cedar horizon]

It gives fire rate increase wtf

[dusty yacht]

I'm on the grindset

[reef stump]

i play on Garena so it doesn't matter

garena player are dumb anyway

[limpid birch]

The recoil is the only thing that's going to kill u when u match up against snipers

[distant lotus]

When u destroy a tank with a fhj

[limpid birch]

Not worth it

[dusty yacht]

Shotgun evarywhere

[reef stump]

control it then lmao

[rich arch]

since when does tac laser give fire rate boost

[cedar horizon]

Oh yeah but Strike is

[distant lotus]

Buff

[dusty yacht]

Lol

[cedar horizon]

Kk

[limpid birch]

It's incredibly high at longer ranges

[reef stump]

then don't use it at long range

[cedar horizon]

I was talking about Light trigger wtf

Did he get confused

[limpid birch]

Because is gives better vertical control for longer ranges

Who tf strafes with NA

[rich arch]

swap the strike foregrip

[reef stump]

bro ur the type of guy that use monolithic on dlq

[limpid birch]

That's incredibly dumb

[dusty yacht]

KN-44 is my last gun to gold to get platinum

[cedar horizon]

[cedar horizon]

Damn nice man, goodluck

KN is ez so it shouldn't be a problem

[distant lotus]

PIKA

[distant lotus]

Leave

[robust musk]

[dusty yacht]

I started the grind 4 days ago...

[cedar horizon]

[cedar horizon]

Gimme a sec

[limpid birch]

Laser only ads 3% ads so not worth it, maybe you won't hardscope but then u don't fight against enemies thats can see the laser immediately

[distant lotus]

Wtf is this😀

[reef stump]

worth it

[cedar horizon]

[rich arch]

learn to reply to the right messages then?

[limpid birch]

Definitely not lmao

[rich arch]

laser isn't worth it

[cedar horizon]

I REPLIED TO HIS BUILDDD

[rich arch]

🚮

[cedar horizon]

I REPLIED TO HIS BUILDDDD 💀

[limpid birch]

Strike is better since it adds better control, and it doesn't even increase your ADS

[reef stump]

worth it lol

[distant lotus]

[rich arch]

it's not

[reef stump]

it is

[rich arch]

god stupid rookies

it's legit 1 frame

[reef stump]

still worth it

[rich arch]

shut up

dumbass

[dusty yacht]

Is getting platinum in 4 days impressive

[reef stump]

since Garena is dumb and doesn't even care laser giving out place

[reef stump]

i wont

[rich arch]

ur build is good except strike foregrip to light trigger and high explosive mag to compensator for recoil or light suppressor for suppression

[limpid birch]

Yeah they be telling what's good and not to someone who fights scrims on a daily basis

[rich arch]

since u have strike foregrip for recoil

[reef stump]

oh shiver me timbers

[rich arch]

who tf

asked

[limpid birch]

NA is bad without high explosive mag even with demo expert, light trigger is good for close range but not for longer ranges

[reef stump]

why care to reply?

[limpid birch]

Ohh 1 frame lover

[rich arch]

nah it'll kill at cqc with demo expert if the opp isn't using flak jacket

u dont need high explosive mag

[native swift]

i havent research the OTM mag

[rich arch]

🚮

[limpid birch]

It'll be a hitmark machine if u don't hit close to enemies

[unreal dagger]

test server abuser

[reef stump]

ok long range SMG man

[limpid birch]

High explosive can kill even from 1 meter away

[dapper dagger]

[rich arch]

we all love 1 frame ads time boost on the na45

[reef stump]

not everyone

[limpid birch]

Long range SMG? Lmao the ADS on the QQ9 is already good, no reason to go full movement when ur enemy is dead already if u have good aim

[rich arch]

please tell me u dont use strike stock qq9

[limpid birch]

Who uses that?

[robust musk]

[rich arch]

thank the lords he doesn't

[dark meteor]

why flash guard

[rich arch]

bsa

[dark meteor]

it's a hipfire attachment tho

[reef stump]

😐

[dark meteor]

ok

[dapper dagger]

Wow

[rich arch]

lmao wtf

[dark meteor]

what i didn't say anything wrong tho ;-;

[robust musk]

Everytime I use QXR, it gives me deep pain

[rich arch]

u did tho?

[limpid birch]

Y'all should try using some slower builds, they can still dominate close ranges with the benefit of being able to hit at longer ranges

[rich arch]

no

[dapper dagger]

Yea no

[reef stump]

no

[rich arch]

we dont play like iiferg fanboys

omgg!! iferg posted video lets get his gunsmith!!

[reef stump]

iferg lobby is funny

[dark meteor]

i'm good thanks

[dark meteor]

really? :/

[dapper dagger]

He reverse boosts for content

[reef stump]

yeah lmao

[limpid birch]

I don't even use any YouTuber's gunsmith

[reef stump]

probs not even that good

[rich arch]

@limpid birch u are a garena player right?

[dapper dagger]

Must be a 0. Kd lobby

[limpid birch]

Yes

[reef stump]

true

[next plover]

gib cbr build plsss

pls

[limber sail]

No need tp copy gunsmith

[rich arch]

man uses negative strafe builds in the movement region i can't

[next plover]

aight thank

[reef stump]

lmao

[dapper dagger]

Especially against KRM users

[rich arch]

[limpid birch]

Bruh moving an inch faster while aiming won't do u good if u have good aim

[next plover]

what if u use marksman barrel instead of light extended

[reef stump]

i rarely see krm user if i see they could be godly or trash

[dapper dagger]

Usable

[rich arch]

like garena is known for having the best movement

[reef stump]

most of the time it's trash

[reef stump]

myth

[dapper dagger]

It's not an inch. It's measured in m/s. And yes, it's significant

[rich arch]

uh okay

[limpid birch]

Still good since it has one of the fastest TTK at longer ranges

[rich arch]

🚮

[reef stump]

ok dg clove

[rich arch]

u had me until longer ranges

[limpid birch]

It really isn't if your enemies have good aim

[dapper dagger]

Not really. Not the fastest but good enough to challenge

[next plover]

and sleight of hand instead of tape

[limpid birch]

Yeah it has above 50m

[next plover]

no mythic :((

[rich arch]

[dapper dagger]

Then you're making yourself slow. Which makes them easier to kill

[next plover]

its not needed imo

[dapper dagger]

Not needed tbh

[robust musk]

yes

[limpid birch]

U can jump while aiming u know?

[dapper dagger]

You can Strafe which works better

[rich arch]

its base reload speed is already fast

[reef stump]

true

[dapper dagger]

Most of your builds have bad Strafe

[robust musk]

CODM stereotypes, Jap best aim, Gaerena best movement, ME best hackers

[dusty yacht]

Who said it's a good idea to add the katana for free

[next plover]

ok

[limpid birch]

Not really

[next plover]

is kilo burst or auto

[dapper dagger]

Nah it is

[next plover]

or both

[dapper dagger]

Trust me

[rich arch]

full auto

[dapper dagger]

Auto

[reef stump]

cmon path win the argument

[rich arch]

and there's a semi auto conversion

[dapper dagger]

I already have lol

[reef stump]

no u haven't he hasnt backed up yet

[dusty yacht]

M13 or Kilo for BR

[next plover]

im talking bout 141 (xd auto kilo bolt action xd)

[dapper dagger]

Yea ik. Kilo is a full auto

[reef stump]

and still thinking dumb thing to say

[rich arch]

we are fucking talking about kilo 141 too not kar98

[fickle mango]

Can someone 1v1
I want to tryout heavens wc sniper loadout

[next plover]

ik im kidding xd

[rich arch]

XD!!

[rich arch]

🚮 go try in ranked

[reef stump]

garena

[dapper dagger]

Ask in #codm-discussion

[reef stump]

or what

[limpid birch]

Strafe speed is only good if the gun has good strafe speed to begin with, guns that have slow strafe speed shouldn't be built for strafe speed

[rich arch]

#694622713129730168 *

[fickle mango]

K bro

[winged solar]

is kilo 141 burst or automatic rifle?

[rich arch]

it's fucking automatic

[winged solar]

oh

[native swift]

auto

[dapper dagger]

Not true. Strafe speed helps in developing desync and hence ruining Punishment value. And do you even know how to calculate the ttk of any gun?

[rich arch]

people who's first fps game is codm 🚮

[dapper dagger]

[reef stump]

ahahah

uh oh

[limpid birch]

Calculating TTK is pretty basic, movement isn't everything

[dapper dagger]

Mine is Blackops 2

[reef stump]

movement is everything

[dapper dagger]

What's M13's ttk

[limpid birch]

Even not full movement builds can move decently

[dapper dagger]

[dapper dagger]

They can

[rich arch]

why is vivian harris back 🚮

[dapper dagger]

Even if you don't, making slower builds doesn't help either

[unreal dagger]

my first fps game was codm

[dapper dagger]

Most of your builds have strike stock

[limpid birch]

That's why u don't always use full movement speed build

[limpid birch]

200±

[dapper dagger]

Nah it is worth it

[dapper dagger]

Nah nah. Tell me the accurate numbers

[limpid birch]

Not most, just some that have pretty bad recoil

[reef stump]

control it

[dapper dagger]

Recoil is something you can control

Mono suppressor, Granulated griptape, Scope, Steady stock, Stopping Power (Rumored to be increasing headshot damage Multipliers, Idrk)

[limpid birch]

Try controlling a gun with high recoil and low BSA at 30 meters and hit accurately to the point that even headglitching enemies can be killed

[reef stump]

have u try it for yourself?

[limpid birch]

Of course that's why I use my gunsmiths since it fits me better

[reef stump]

i actually losing braincells

how the fuck do u even control bsa

[limpid birch]

U don't that's why I use an accurate gunsmith

[reef stump]

I'm actually losing braincells lol

u don't even stick to the subject

[pale copper]

I m broken Mx9

LMAO

[limpid birch]

The only subject there is is about why some slower gunsmiths will work better than hard to control movement speed builds

[dapper dagger]

Not really hard to control if you have skill

[reef stump]

😂

[dapper dagger]

@rich arch

[timid ermine]

what's that

[dapper dagger]

Guns in general

[limpid birch]

U show me controlling fennec's recoil when I was talking about ARs thag should not be used with high-recoil builds since they're for longer ranges lmao

[reef stump]

this guy logic
smg short range
ar long range

[dapper dagger]

@limpid birch here's AR with this build

[timid ermine]

was trying to make a self deprecating joke about how I don’t have skill but okie

[reef stump]

cancer flinch

[rich arch]

bro let me go use my asval to crossmap on highrise

[reef stump]

😂

[dapper dagger]

Use Toughness

[limpid birch]

I definitely have the skill alright, but flinching when enemies are shooting as well would save you alot with a lower recoil build

[native swift]

lol same as me

[native swift]

i like that

[dapper dagger]

Toughness perk

[reef stump]

i cant, i cant replace my wife with toughness

[limpid birch]

The only difference between our build is thatI use the heavy barrel

[pale copper]

I am broken mx9 🤣

[dapper dagger]

Slower builds bad cuz limits performance at all ranges

[reef stump]

what

[limpid birch]

Not worth it for ARs, a build for longer range is better

[limpid birch]

Slower build ruin your performance at longer ranges tho

[dusty yacht]

Is getting platinum within a week impressive?

[reef stump]

idk

[pale copper]

But is the build good or is it shit?

[reef stump]

i got Damascus in just 1 week lol

[pale copper]

ok

[dusty yacht]

Cuz I'm getting 3 gold/day

[rich arch]

it's shit

[reef stump]

if im not lazy i could get like 5/6 gold per day

[dusty yacht]

Impressive

[reef stump]

wh

[pale copper]

I've arranged already

[pale copper]

thanks

[dapper dagger]

Some guns just don't need range boost. While if you do use one, use the one with lesser penalties

[dapper dagger]

You're losing Versatility men!!!!

[distant lotus]

Uh.. I used full control MWAHAHA

[gray solar]

[limpid birch]

Using Heavy barrel on M13 isn't much

[gray solar]

Rate drip

[limpid birch]

It gives range and control as well as good BSA

[dapper dagger]

Oh really?

[distant lotus]

😩

[limpid birch]

Yeah

[distant lotus]

@gray solar text server?

[native swift]

wat where u u get theat gun from

[gray solar]

Test server

[native swift]

ok

[gray solar]

This in codm when?

This should apply with FR 556

[rich arch]

🚮

[dapper dagger]

Definitely not much

[gray solar]

No stock helps

[pale copper]

Lmao

[distant lotus]

@native swift ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ

[limpid birch]

That's why I use no stock and OWC laser

It's all down to preference lmao

[dapper dagger]

3% and while you'll lose 2% movement speed with 60 mag

[distant lotus]

lmao

[native swift]

?

[dapper dagger]

With the strike stocks you have on other builds, not really

I can consider heavy barrel M13

[distant lotus]

Gimme hug

[dapper dagger]

But not the ones with strike stock

That's just cringe

[gray solar]

Stippled tape

[native swift]

🫂

[distant lotus]

NOW KISSES

[gray solar]

Gtg school had started

Bye

[distant lotus]

In the bathroom stolls

I'm waiting😩

[dark meteor]

are dark matter skins worth grinding?

[reef stump]

yes

[gray solar]

Fuck nah, I’m doing math

[native swift]

no

[distant lotus]

Of hugs*

[reef stump]

kiss

[distant lotus]

[reef stump]

ok no

no

[distant lotus]

Yes

[dark meteor]

i won't mind

[distant lotus]

Ayo calm downn

[reef stump]

🤨

[dark meteor]

lmao

[limpid birch]

The enemies I play with have good aim bruh it all comes down to preference since there's no point strafing when you're dead before u even move, then there's the fact that alot of enemies use disable whenever the game is HP or Domi

[dark meteor]

good aim

[dapper dagger]

Who said you're dead before you even move? Guns take time to raise up and ads

Human reaction times

Your Skirmish ttk

[reef stump]

lop

[dark meteor]

ads becomes a bit slow otherwise i would use that too

[limpid birch]

There's pre-aiming

[cedar horizon]

You guys are still going on about this?

[dark meteor]

[dapper dagger]

You can Strafe to mess up enemy's aim and increase Punishment value

[limpid birch]

Then there's enemies that have good aim like I said

[reef stump]

ah hahaha i knew you gonna say that

😂 😂

[dapper dagger]

Nah, unless they have controller Aim assist, you can't

[cedar horizon]

Question, do you sometimes play pubs and go against bots that move left and right constantly?

And do you consistently hit them?

[reef stump]

i bet hes gonna say yes

[robust musk]

[cedar horizon]

That answers your question, Strafe throws your enemy off by a margin no matter how good they are

And im gone.

[robust musk]

5ms+ strafe yes, it's just not completely trackable unless they only strafe to one side

[dapper dagger]

^

[limpid birch]

M13 has bad strafe speed so there's literally no point, I use it since it gives better control and BSA while maintaining a stable ADS speed

[robust musk]

+- 10% to 5ms

[reef stump]

just don't use the big barrel thing

[robust musk]

You can get some decent strafe on M13

[dapper dagger]

With attachments, you can make it better

[limpid birch]

Not worth it

[dapper dagger]

It is

[reef stump]

worth it

[robust musk]

base M13 strafe isn't acc too far from P90 base

pretty good

[limpid birch]

Definitely not lmao u can say otherwise but definitely not since the strafing speed is slow to begin with

There's not point

[cedar horizon]

Ture but guns like the M13 and Val have good enough strafe

And im gone again

[reef stump]

ok I'm done

[limpid birch]

Decent ADS while maintaining control at longer ranges is good

[reef stump]

imma head out watching sum shit

[robust musk]

Yeah, anywhere around 5m/s strafe is good

[limpid birch]

It's all down to preference lol

Then there's also jumping from side to side

[robust musk]

actually stupid how good you can make it's strafe into

[reef stump]

nerfed

[dapper dagger]

And yet this guy says it's bad

[limpid birch]

Still works and still better than strafing

[robust musk]

Isn't post build M13 a comfortable 4ms+

[reef stump]

omg bruh

[robust musk]

pretty good afaik, especially for a 60 mag AR

[reef stump]

it's hard to beat someone in argument who has disease called stupidity

[robust musk]

[limpid birch]

While strike isn't the best, it's my preference to use since I have good aim and need good aim at longer ranges to counter snipers

[fickle mango]

@mighty acorn bro I need the best gunsmith of qq9 for aggressive play

[hollow panther]

see but the way the bots move.

is just so gay sometimes

[dapper dagger]

@limpid birch this is how fast M13 is. Same opinion now?

[robust musk]

Lmfaoo bots do be strafing

[robust musk]

That’s without skulker too

[dapper dagger]

Ikr

[fickle mango]

@mighty acorn Bro I need the best qq9 gunsmith for aggressive play

[dapper dagger]

Mono suppressor, Tactical barrel, Tac laser, No stock, 45 mag

Ask me if he's not around

[fickle mango]

Thnx

[robust musk]

My favourite activity is ruining the day of QQ9 stans by saying, CBR ≥ Fennec > MX9 > QQ9

[rich arch]

i mean that's true

[robust musk]

QQ9 have an inherent trait of denying any of the guns faults tho, they still think it’s top2

[dense geode]

and MSMC > CBR

[rich arch]

🚮

[rich arch]

and dlq > msmc

[robust musk]

[dense geode]

msmc is at the top nothing beats it so fuck off

[rich arch]

my dlq does

[dense geode]

if you continue with that heresy i'll castrate you

[rich arch]

irrelevant opinion coz veteran 🚮

[robust musk]

Who needs shotguns when DLQ exists

[dense geode]

mainly because i was ina coma for the better part of a year here

[fickle mango]

Which one? Long or what

[dense geode]

i've been around for a while though

[dapper dagger]

Tactical barrel

[dense geode]

i lead a cult and you call me trasH

bro you literally signed a death warrent these people worship me as a messiah

[fickle mango]

Thnx

[dense geode]

thats not even like trash talkl i'm being dead serious you do not fuck with cultists

[unreal dagger]

hey rizzy

[dense geode]

ayo your pfp is that guy from fortnite

[unreal dagger]

you havent been active for a very long time

[dense geode]

coma

[unreal dagger]

[dense geode]

also i just fell out of codm

like i could be playing literally anything else

friendship ended with codm

now bloons td6 is my friend

[dapper dagger]

@dense geode secksy build in #codm-gunsmith-builds

👍

[rich arch]

cult leaders 🚮

[cedar horizon]

I love the QQ9 but I gotta say it's not that good anymore

[rich arch]

i know u been dead but yes 🚮

[robust musk]

I wish all QQ9 stans were like u

[cedar horizon]

I wish everyone was as cute as you

[robust musk]

Pains me that I started it last year

[rich arch]

Fennec gunsmith please!!!!

[robust musk]

Put T25 cult in my name and suddenly we had cults for everything at one point

[rich arch]

I m grinding CAMOs

[cedar horizon]

Mono, No Stock, 5mw, Ext Mag, Rubberized/Ext Barrel

[rich arch]

Thank you bro you the best!!!!

[cedar horizon]

SHEEESH thats hot

[cedar horizon]

We need more people like this guy right here

[dapper dagger]

Not even mine lmao. It's my friends screenshot

[robust musk]

When everything about the pic is perfect

[cedar horizon]

He asks for a build, takes the build, thanks us and leaves

[native swift]

im grinding skills

[cedar horizon]

Rich friend

[dapper dagger]

He has every Mythic + diamond other than Rytec

[cedar horizon]

Im gonna go back to homework now

[cedar horizon]

Mythic or diamond

[dapper dagger]

Both

[cedar horizon]

Cringe.

[dapper dagger]

[cedar horizon]

Best mythic man

Aside from Pikachu (PK2)

[robust musk]

I need to pick up mythic fennec but no redux plans yet

[dapper dagger]

I've asked him for more

[robust musk]

Most value mythic

[dapper dagger]

Mythic M13 and P90 incoming

[cedar horizon]

Rich peoples

[native swift]

ye

im f2p player

[robust musk]

When full ads rytec is spammable

[cedar horizon]

Zamn

[distant lotus]

I regret not buying toy bundle

Why didn't I just buy it😭

[wild basalt]

[distant lotus]

Hacks

[wicked carbon]

Anyone have a faster ads dlq without changing the scope out. I’m wanting to try a new build

[cedar horizon]

Light Barrel, Combat Stock, Ext Mag A/Light Suppressor (depends on if you want more ammo or Suppression) Tac Laser and Stippled

If that's what you use that's as fast as you gonna get fam

[limpid birch]

The unfortunate thing is the damage drop off above 30m and the recoil is bad at longer ranges, still awesome tho

[cedar horizon]

Wha

[limpid birch]

Incredibly good in Crossfire and Standoff, any rushers would get blown no hitmark

[cedar horizon]

Pretty sure he wasnt using the Explosive mag

Yes its very good but its also cringe

[limpid birch]

Yeah it's my build I'm suggesting

[cedar horizon]

Ke

[limpid birch]

How so?

[cedar horizon]

Its incredibly scummy to one shot anywhere on the body

Its like pre nerf Arctic Stopping Power

Dont get on my ass about "Oh it takes skill, Oh it adses slower" If you hold a doorway and know how to aim that's an easy fucking kill

[limpid birch]

Damage drop-off at 30 meters, it's like a no wallbang slow dlq at longer ranges

[cedar horizon]

Even so

[limpid birch]

Scummy or not it's still good lol

[cedar horizon]

I know

[stray rapids]

Na45 is pretty fun

[cedar horizon]

Still less toxic than Rytec Explosive

[robust musk]

it's mainly a vid for the fact it's spammable and accurate weird with the kick

[limpid birch]

Aight Imma lower my pride, sorry for earlier lmao it was an older build, here's my current build

[cedar horizon]

NA45 is so ass now that using it is understandable

[cedar horizon]

👏

Good job mate

You finally understamd

I respect your decision and will no longer see you as negative iq

You are now promoted to 10 iq

[stray rapids]

🤩

[cedar horizon]

[limpid birch]

I sure hope they remove the damage drop off since it's already worse than dlq

[cedar horizon]

🚫

Rytec is perfect the way it is

Aint nobody gonna nerf or buff it

[limpid birch]

Yeah lmao I forgot that I sent the first build I came up with before I tried using disable

[cedar horizon]

🤝

[distant lotus]

[cedar horizon]

Extremy cringe

[distant lotus]

U do not wanna know how the original looks..

[cedar horizon]

They are all simps

[limpid birch]

It's pretty crappy unless u use explosive mag since dlq is way better since it has faster ADS and no hitmark at wallbangs, rytec is like a slug tank lmao

[cedar horizon]

No its best

Rytec bae

[limpid birch]

It's extremely funny when u hit cars when enemies are using it as a headglitch

[cedar horizon]

Anyone who disagrees should just stick to their "DLQ" and "Locus" 🤦‍♂️

[distant lotus]

Help me@limpid birch

[limpid birch]

They aren't safe

[cedar horizon]

Very crimj

[cedar horizon]

Same goes with NA hehe boi

[distant lotus]

First one tho works

[limpid birch]

Although it works still crappy, full ADS and red dot is a quicksope machine way better than the first lol

[distant lotus]

Tell that to the rank games I won

[limpid birch]

Maybe it's a troll build or something

[distant lotus]

And I'm only master 1 ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ

[distant lotus]

Read the review

[cedar horizon]

@ashen cipher good build, If you want to you can swap Barrel for Mono for more range and suppression

[limpid birch]

Try using all ADS and red dot you'll have extreme fun, it's like a scopeless dlq with outlaw ADS time

[distant lotus]

No no ik how to use it love hehe

Ima troller

[limpid birch]

Have fun

[distant lotus]

I use crappy builds in rank to show how not good they are

Just my think and also testing guns

[cedar horizon]

Idk why but I suck with teh MK2

[distant lotus]

Ik how it goes

[cedar horizon]

But im a fucking god with the SPR

Like no joke im basically an aimbotter with the SPR

The amount of clips ive gotten with it is insane, Love that gun so much

[distant lotus]

Then use my build its really easy to use and it's one shot close and long, it also has 85% direct hipfire

[cyan drift]

Wud love to see ur skill

[cedar horizon]

When I record while playing Ill show :giga:

[distant lotus]

Dude I used to fuck around with sniper scopes wanna see?

[cedar horizon]

Ive used every build, including Scopes, Ironsights, Red Dots, Holos but im just lacking with it

Mayeb its the animation

[cedar horizon]

Ye sure

[distant lotus]

When I just started codm

[cyan drift]

Am I the only one dying a lotta times and finally giving up and using meta to win....

[cedar horizon]

I do that on a bad day

[distant lotus]

Dude I lost the rest lemme get them

[robust musk]

LMFAOO, "hardscope with m13 noob"

[cedar horizon]

Except my meta is the DLQ

[cedar horizon]

Ong im like "????"

Funny part is, he was on Jungle Headglitch

[tight dawn]

Drh gunsmith

[cedar horizon]

And I jumpshotted him

[robust musk]

nice

[cedar horizon]

Ranger, No Stock, Granulated, Tac Laser, 25 OTM

[cyan drift]

Headglitches are the worst

[distant lotus]

Nvmm

[ashen cipher]

👍

[cedar horizon]

Some of them arent that bad but people who sit on em all day upset me

Remember Terminal couch headglitch before it got patched?

[cyan drift]

Terminal has the most right ?

[cedar horizon]

Such a sadist spot and I abused it when I got pissed off

[cedar horizon]

Yeah its such a campy map

Same goes for uhhh Crash

[cyan drift]

But many vote as soon as it pops up in ranked

[cedar horizon]

A bomb is literally worst idea in Crash

Shotguns, Katanas, Tripmines, wtc

[cedar horizon]

Yeah I always vote opposite but they all choose the worst maps :kms:

Also I have a sheer hatred for Crossfire

[cyan drift]

Cross fire, i like that for some reason

[cedar horizon]

Its such a sad map for me

I barely ever do good

Whether its Dom, SND, TDM or Hp

I suck at all of em 95% of the time

[cyan drift]

U dont have sniper campers in the enemy team as in pubs so that's good

[cedar horizon]

Mostly because Snipers and Katanas and broken ass headglitches and Snipers and SNIPERS and broken bombsites and broken flags and broken hardpoints

[cyan drift]

What's the best mode to rank up at

[cedar horizon]

Hardpoint and Dom

[cyan drift]

Hp or dom or tdm or s n d

[cedar horizon]

Its a little tedious but its the best way

Snd sucks for ranking but its my favourite

TDM is like in between

Not too good but not too bad

[cyan drift]

I suck at hardpoint. Domination is kinda easy when u have cluster

[cedar horizon]

If you do good in Hardpoint and lose you only get like -10 points maximum