codm-gunsmith-help

[faint gulch]

lowkey forgot foregrips exist
but op fg

[sinful shuttle]

chat what should i do. do i put on a rear grip or nah

[faint gulch]

na

[nova tusk]

BP50 gunsmith ?? best one..

[unique raven]

Maxim silencer
Leroy rapid
(Idk what to say for the stock)
Stippled grip
30 rnd/60 rnd

[viscid belfry]

no negative stats stock

[unique raven]

Idk which stock that is

[wraith badger]

• OWC light suppessor, short barrel, skeleton stock, stoppow mag, and stippled grip tape

[nova tusk]

ok

[sinful shuttle]

@wraith badger how much better is t25 stopping power than ram if hp is 250

[wraith badger]

We talking mp or?

[sinful shuttle]

dmz

there’s a few crazy t25 glazer saying it beats vmp

[wraith badger]

I think ram7's still better actually

For cqc, t25 is a bit better

[granite sail]

T25 doesn't even beat ram7

Either not enough dps or too small mag

[ruby iris]

T25 is just a ram with less mag and more recoil

But you do get better range

[austere igloo]

T25 and Ram7 r basically false twins

But this only applies to mp

In BR it's a different ball game

T25 shreds Ram7 in BR

[unique raven]

T25 is one of the best sniper supports in br

[ocean vine]

Gunsmith

[unique raven]

Gunsmith

[faint gulch]

removed stock optional

[faint gulch]

the best*

[faint gulch]

its ttk is exactly the same

just mag and recoil issues

[lucid zealot]

Is this good?

[faint gulch]

id use chromeline barrel if its a mobility build

with the stock I assume it is

[lucid zealot]

Ty

[granite sail]

Think about it this way:
Type 25-ing people ⁉️
Ramming my enemies ⭐

[faint gulch]

🥀

[brazen roost]

What if..

[split ice]

lf pkm mobility build

[austere igloo]

Nein

[faint gulch]

those two words dont exactly fit well together

[split ice]

huh

[faint gulch]

pkm is a very passive lmg

make it fast and its just gonna be bad at everything

[split ice]

i handle recoil really well and also bsa so ion really care but thanks

[faint gulch]

you can’t handle bsa wym

its uncontrollable lol

[split ice]

spot the enemy first and it doesn't matter

My lobbies are dumb enough

[faint gulch]

?

[faint gulch]

I mean fair enough ig

[thick tree]

I got you

[faint gulch]

ts frying me

id soh or sum over stippled at least

[tawny walrus]

I used this build for diamond grind in Shipment.

[thick tree]

Probably good this is just the present recommendation with mag switched for muzzle

[sinful shuttle]

cqc?

[weary aurora]

Close Quarters Combat!

[sinful shuttle]

its not better than vmp right

[faint gulch]

no auto is

[weary aurora]

Not a chance 🤣

VMP has cqc business locked down

[sinful shuttle]

its recoil a bit dodgy in dmz tho

[cold minnow]

why you want to use mobility build on a lmg that‘s purposed at holding sites

lmfaooo

you shouldnt

[cold minnow]

have to beg to differ about this one
you can put a mip light stock on it and have rest of attachments focused on range and suppression (also mag size)

sure some folks would decided to go all in passive and switch stock to gran grip

but remember pkm can reach 2m/s ads movement speed
i would let you to decided whatever anything about mobility in long distance important or not

at least it is not RAAL level of trash

(1.87m/s)

[undone sandal]

no thx

[tawny walrus]

LMG isn’t aggro class at all.

Trying making it more mobile won’t do you any good.

[faint gulch]

strafe is not a defining factor of playstyle

[unique raven]

Allat yap for some strafe speed?

It's still passive

[viscid belfry]

mobility build

[thick tree]

Anything can be what it isn’t supposed be with enough determination

[unique raven]

A human can turn into a mountain

[thick tree]

Yes

Just eat enough

[civic bone]

which attachement to remove on the SO14 to run a red dot (the ironsight is so hard to use for me) on both semi and full auto builds?

[viscid belfry]

im almost there then

[unique raven]

Lmao

[viscid belfry]

[undone sandal]

what build are you using

[civic bone]

• For Semi-Auto: so14
Polarfire suppressor
RFX40 barrel
RTP40 stock
GEN7 grip
FMJ/Disable

• For Full-Auto:
Polarfire suppressor
Standard barrel
Cheek pad stock
50 rnd drum
Wlid fire perk

these ones

[viscid belfry]

that auto needs disable lmao

[undone sandal]

r u dumb

[civic bone]

yes

I got this from here

[sinful shuttle]

imagine ram with disabled

so cracked

[unique raven]

[soft root]

Wildfire❌
disable

🤯

[viscid belfry]

no just saying it needs lmao

[civic bone]

lmao

[viscid belfry]

it doesnt have?

[sinful shuttle]

its an ar…

[viscid belfry]

world is unfair

[unique raven]

You gotta hit the legs

[viscid belfry]

disable works full on ar marksman and lmg

[civic bone]

disable on ars work only on leg shots

[soft root]

Not ar

[unique raven]

On ars? No

[soft root]

[unique raven]

It's sniper, marksman, lmg

[viscid belfry]

sheesh

[unique raven]

[viscid belfry]

makes sense

ill use it ill shoot only on legs

[sinful shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-explosion-gif-24686375

[civic bone]

[soft root]

Me when leg shots

[soft root]

L

[sinful shuttle]

u post gif

[soft root]

No

[atomic summit]

@undone sandal a little help

[undone sandal]

wsp

[atomic summit]

need help with build

[undone sandal]

what r ur choices for attachments

[atomic summit]

anything viable for this mode

[undone sandal]

build like br

i assume

because of armor system and whatnot

[atomic summit]

was about to do that but I think it doesn't have stock and grip ones

[undone sandal]

that sucks

then do whatever u want w it

build it for recoil or whatever

since ive heard ak47 bsa is fairly tight alr

[atomic summit]

aight

[faint gulch]

yeah id just opfg and mono

or ranger fg tac if those arent unlocked

doesnt matter a ton anyway till you have full sets like mythic gear

[undone sandal]

Yea

[viscid belfry]

@wraith badger na explosive

[native horizon]

someone have a build for me pls

i play striker45

for ranked

[soft root]

Too bad i only have a striker45 build

[viscid belfry]

damn poor guy then

[native horizon]

;-;

[wraith badger]

I've never heard of striker 35 😭

[unique raven]

Striker 35

[wraith badger]

• OWC light suppressor, steady stock, sleight of hand, light trigger, and high explosive mag

[viscid belfry]

alr thanks

[tawny walrus]

Mono suppressor
400mm barrel
Red dot
45 mag
BSA rear grip

@strong monolith Thanks for the build btw. :3

[unique raven]

That's not striker 35

[tawny walrus]

Umm.. actuawwy..

[civic bone]

yo @wraith badger can you recommend a full auto SO14 build with a red dot in it?

[wraith badger]

• Polarfire suppressor, cheek rest stock, wild fire, 50rnd drum, and optic

[thick tree]

I wish there was a really full auto slow firing weapon like Vargo with 20 round mag

I want like super punching but really rewarding shots

And yes I have already finished oden

[civic bone]

Thank you ❤️

[sly orchid]

LAG

[neon narwhal]

blud fn fal exists

[unique raven]

[granite sail]

How much does bullet spread really matter for shotguns? I've tested lowest vs highest bsa possible for different shotguns and the difference seems negligible??

[undone sandal]

a lot since you're dealing with multiple pellets

[granite sail]

I got nearly the same kill distances on testing

[undone sandal]

you want as much of your pellets to hit the enemy while also not sacrificing the basic necessities of a shotgun

[granite sail]

For both br and MP hp

[undone sandal]

most shotguns vary in consistency rather than the distance itself

pellet distribution

[granite sail]

Yea instead of nerf hs0 they need to buff competition

Although nerf was justified

I'll test again later

[faint gulch]

this’d just cause more powercreep and more busted shotguns

it already led to striker being toxic asf

all the meta needs nerfing rn

[brazen cedar]

can someone give me an idea of how damascus works? is it just 47 random guns? 47 base guns (on launch) or 47 priamry weapons. ive heard all 3

if its base weapons is there a list i can find somewhere

[swift pebble]

could i get a hvk build please

[unreal gale]

Mono, light barrel, lc mag, gran tape, stock of choice

[unreal gale]

I think they changed it to be all guns now

Bonus opinion: the skins are not that cool, tournament skins are better and easier.
Only go for it if you care about completion

[faint gulch]

its for every weapon

backups too, all categories

[thick tree]

Still to fast I want slower

[granite sail]

Okay i dont know what i was testing last time but yea bsa matters. Except for argus you dont need to go full all out

[undone sandal]

argus iirc is the only shotgun where range boosting doesn't matter

and you only need to boost bsa

[granite sail]

That would make sense didn't try that yet

[sly orchid]

It's basically the same as Oden tho

I think it's very similar rate of fire

[tulip fox]

Is ak117 still a viable ar in br

[thick tree]

I don’t want oden tho

I want even slower fire weapon and that isn’t in game

[sinful shuttle]

@wraith badger in what range and how much better is t25>ram

[faint gulch]

sure but there’s better options

[faint gulch]

really never

rams almost always gonna be more consistent but you could argue t25 is a bit more mobile and has more 4stk in the 20 meters range roughly

[balmy temple]

Could someone recommend me a good Shorty gunsmith?

[balmy temple]

Hip fire focused

[faint gulch]

its always gonna suck at that but uh 5mw and soh over tac fg ig

[balmy temple]

Ohk

I am planning on using it with Underkill

To try the wildcard

[austere igloo]

Shorty isn’t meant for hipfire

[faint gulch]

😭

[rich arch]

[lucid zealot]

Would it be bad to put a holo scope on this?

[unique raven]

the sight isn't that bad

[thick tree]

I got you

[tawny walrus]

Not at all.

[unique raven]

I don't think that would work very well

[thick tree]

Does underkill provide any bonuses like faster weapon swap?

[tawny walrus]

Also, use folded stock.

[unique raven]

Underkill? Yea

[unique raven]

It gives temporary extra health and speed boost

[faint gulch]

its fine over fg yeah

[brazen cedar]

I am very into completion. this is very upsetting news. i cant find a straight answer online and i looked for 2 days

[undone sandal]

damascus requires you to obtain gold camo for all weapons

where did you get the 47 gun figure from

[brazen cedar]

i was told it was from the 47 base weapons from when the gunsmith feature was added. its ridiculous to think they would add more and more guns to that grind considering its the only call of duty to make DLCs a mandatory grind and the fact that its more than doubled in weapons since

[undone sandal]

they updated that a long time ago

the requirements written ingame should be accurate now

[lucid zealot]

So which attachment would I replace it with?

[brazen cedar]

thats a shame. makes it very inaccessable for me considering i dont have 400 hours to put into a mobile game

and youre sure it is all weapons in the game including DLC? because even BO4 words the dark matter challenge as "Unlock gold for all weapons" but you only have to get the base gun

[tawny walrus]

Mag to holo 2.

100 rounds should be enough.

[lucid zealot]

Ty

[lucid zealot]

Getting gold for most of the weapons isn't an issue if you skip playing ranked for 2 seasons and start at rookie and just play tdm you'll keep on getting bots thw issue is gonna be getting the launchers and the other weapons like the buzz saw

Damascus is something you grind for on the side since you know you'll eventually get there, getting Damascus is more of a journey then goal

[unique raven]

Tf does this guy mean dlc

[brazen cedar]

post launch content

[unique raven]

The game is updated every month

They've been adding one extra gun to Damascus since 2020 s9

[brazen roost]

Yes it's all guns

Tbh, if you want it I'd always advise you do it as early as possible

[unique raven]

[brazen roost]

Due to the many weapons in the game you'd have to grind many unusable guns

Which will inevitably increase over time

[brazen roost]

[unique raven]

[brazen roost]

[unique raven]

[cold minnow]

before 2022 July, Yes, only guns that exist during gunsmith are required
this is fixed after 2022 July

btw treyarch still fixing network related issues for all T-related cod games
but they didnt change camo requirements

[rich arch]

[unreal gale]

I mean think of it this way:

1. you're doing the same amount of work that everyone else that currently has damascus did, and if you want it on the newest (and strongest) guns, you'd have to grind them all anyway
2. damascus grinding has gotten a lot easier over the years since they removed most of the really hard (shotgun long shots etc) challenges and swapped them out for more unreasonable ones
3. damascus is meant to be a symbol of completion more than it is a "set of skins", so with the completion requirement comes the need complete 100% of the guns

[rich arch]

📑

[verbal nimbus]

The current Damascus grind takes a lot of dedication. Im doing it, and it definitely can be a bit tedious when you look at all the weapons. But once you figure out the strategies for each category of weapons it, the challenge is really if you can push yourself to do the grind for all the weapons. Ive completed snipers, shotguns, and marksmans and am working on the melees and lmgs. It seems hard but just takes time

[viscid belfry]

i did damascus twice and ngl the only 2 tasks that makes me r headshots and long ranges

but after u finish those 2 its easy

if u have a good aim its faster

[rich arch]

[viscid belfry]

lof duty: bile

[rich arch]

lof duty: bile

[viscid belfry]

[rich arch]

[verbal nimbus]

The sniper longshots absolutely killed me. They were such a pain to do. Having to sit in crossfire hardpoint for days was just so boring

Headshots aren't that bad on most but on ars its a little tougher because you have to get 100, but other than that its pretty easy

[viscid belfry]

i had to play on the worst map in entire codm (crossfire) and eventually there was no bots so i had to go to another big map

[verbal nimbus]

I still sat in that map and also still go back just for longshots

The na-45 was so annoying to do tho xd

[viscid belfry]

na and another gun i dont remember i had to ask to my friend to do

[unreal gale]

Play on dom rust

Dom high rise for snipers

[unique raven]

[lucid zealot]

Why is everyone hating crossfire lol

[unique raven]

Crossfire shit

[viscid belfry]

i dont need i alr did

[sly orchid]

Sniper camping hell

[verbal nimbus]

Na absolutely made me angry. When I was doing it, whenever you got a kill with the explosion at long distance it wouldn't count towards towards longshots. The only things that counted were fricking headshots. So 120 headshot longshots with the NA-45

Im debating if I should get it diamond

[viscid belfry]

lmao

up to u

[verbal nimbus]

Im dreading the crossbow

[ornate jackal]

Nah worst part of the pistols is the shorty

[verbal nimbus]

Ive barely used the shorty but it doesn't seem that bad

[lucid zealot]

I just use an lmg and go from the sides

[devout zephyr]

Xm4 gunsmith with red dot? FOR MP

[thick tree]

Why red dot

❓

[devout zephyr]

I don't like it's iron sight xdd

[keen drift]

What gun is good for br?

[thick tree]

M13

[unique raven]

M13, swordfish, t25

[rich arch]

[thick tree]

Whats a good smg to use in dmz? Preferably legendary and lower quality

Currently using epic pp19

[soft root]

fennec king of hip fire

[thick tree]

Hummm and for ads?

[soft root]

🤔

i forgot smg list leggy<

[thick tree]

Ima stick to pp19 it good against bots

[solar python]

Does anyone have any recommendations for the Chopper? It's my favorite gun (alongide CBR4, Locus, and Vamp) so I want to use it, but it's notoriously bad

Anyone know any good attatchments or entire loadouts to help it work

[thick tree]

Non of these are notoriously bad

[solar python]

Eh. I wouldn't got that far. The Chopper is heavy, slow-to-aim, slow-to-switch, has very little range, and slow-to-reload. The only thing it has going for it is the highest ammo capacity in the game

I usually run it alongside the HS0405

[unique raven]

Yea no you're wrong

Chopper is one of the best lmgs

[solar python]

This is literally the first time I've heard "Chopper" and "good" in the same sentence

[solar python]

Why don't people run it, then? Just out of curiosity

[unique raven]

Chopper

[unique raven]

What sort of lobbies are you in

[solar python]

Ranked TDM

[unique raven]

The amount of people that use chopped

[unique raven]

In what rank

[solar python]

Lemme check

[unique raven]

Plus chopper doesn't even have the highest mag capacity, mg42 has more

[solar python]

Elite IV

[unique raven]

Makes sense, that's mostly bots and shitty/new players

My alt that I never touch is a higher rank dawg 💔

[solar python]

I always get outdone by freakin' controller players

[unique raven]

Controller? 💀

You're elite 4 and a controller player?

What am I hearing 😭

[thick tree]

You don’t get matched with them unless you’re playing emulator or controller yourself

That’s just cope

[solar python]

Yeah. A lot of people connect controllers to their mobile devices which I can't beat with touch controls

[unique raven]

Or I guess seeing

[unique raven]

Skill issue, controller players only play with other controller players

[solar python]

I've seen otherwise, but I'm not here to argue about it

[unique raven]

It's factual

Pretty sure there's a way to glitch it but I guarantee you everyone else you're gonna find matches with are gonna be using touch (if you're using touch that is)

[solar python]

I use touch since I don't have a controller to connect LOL

I'd definitely use one if I could, though

[unique raven]

There's not even that many controller players

If you use controller you ain't gonna find a match with real players

[solar python]

fair

I just wanna reach higher ranks LOL

Elite VI is as high as I can get rn

[unique raven]

(since controller players cant play with everyone else)

[unique raven]

💀

[solar python]

I'm forced to play alone

That's part of why I'm here: to get some teammates

[unique raven]

Solo queuing can get you far

[thick tree]

I play only solo

For br only play fpp tournament and for mp only play xp boosted modes and rank protection hardpoint on weekends

Ez pz

[unique raven]

Or get 22% win rate since none of your teammates are good

[solar python]

TRUE

The amount of times I have to carry 😭

[unique raven]

But elite rank has a lot of bots

[solar python]

Some bots are really good, though LOL

It's kinda funny

about what rank would you say that bots are less frequent?

[brazen roost]

Mm

[manic gale]

Plz someone give me the perfect type 19 loadout plz

[solar bane]

Iron KRM or Iron BY15, which is better in BR?

I know loadout matters but which is better overall

[soft root]

hs0

[solar bane]

Hso?

I thought that was only good in MP

[soft root]

the only shotgun that 1 tap kinetic

[viscid belfry]

top 10k is the high i can get lmao

[viscid belfry]

rlly? wb krm by or others pumps?

[soft root]

2 tap

[sly orchid]

Not always. If someone on a controller invites friends who are on touchscreen to their party they will get controller lobbies

[unique raven]

True

[tight wind]

Literally the worst shotgun build in the game

[visual aspen]

[unique raven]

Why.

[civic bone]

VMP or Fennec as the go-to combat SMG in DMZ?

[viscid belfry]

damn

idk but i cant play with hs0

takes alot place on screen while shooting

i prefear krm or by lol

[viscid belfry]

give it to my friend and he will nuke with

[soft root]

Me too

But hs0 more consistent

[viscid belfry]

smth on hs0 that its too broken is instant shoot on reload

[wraith badger]

• Agency suppressor, taskforce barrel, optic, 50rnd mag, and serpent wrap

[wraith badger]

Here are the really good ones for battle royale

[sly orchid]

Do you think the xm4 build is gonna change with the nerf its getting?

[wraith badger]

Yeah airborne wrap might be a substitute but we'll see

[sly orchid]

Its gonna have much higher flinch

[wraith badger]

Yup, only applied to serpent wrap tho

[sly orchid]

Its base flinch got nerfed too

[wraith badger]

Oh, you right-

Yeah airborne wrap is probably going to be used

[sly orchid]

The S36 buff is interesting. Added a whole new damage range

[wraith badger]

And the agr too, able to four tap to its second range now

That's up to 34 meters

[devout zephyr]

Thanks

[viscid belfry]

s36 and agr gonna be meta next season

and i used to main both lol

[sly orchid]

I wouldnt say meta. They will be good tho

I wonder how good that will make s36 in br

[viscid belfry]

i used it alot and it slaps everyone

especially shit ending users

[faint gulch]

nope -6% mvmt is way too bad

[faint gulch]

45r fast no longer valid
and dropshot grip or field wrap mandatory

[wraith badger]

AH, oh dear

[faint gulch]

you basically get 45r ads speed with 50r now

thats the nerf

45r is as slow as standard t19

[wraith badger]

So basically, t19 got nerfed hella hard and now, xm4 is basically pre-nerf t19 version 2?

[faint gulch]

t19’s still ok

id say theyre pretty close to each other now

t19 just holds a more passive role since it has the range advantage at the cost of some mobility

[wraith badger]

Hmmm interesting... So ram7's basically the go-to ar now, I suppose.

[faint gulch]

oden and hvk have been for a while

but if higher rof ram is arguably better now yeah

just less flexible still

[wraith badger]

Interesting, thank you mellow 🙏🏼

I have to go write my essays now-

[faint gulch]

glgl

[wraith badger]

🙏🏼

Praying for that hundo like...

[ocean vine]

Gunsmith

[austere igloo]

Time to use the worst lmg in MP

Wait no, worst lmg is MG82...this is the 2nd worst one

[faint gulch]

not the worst lmg at all

[faint gulch]

also no, its fine

m4lmg is worst, rpd dingo around there as well

s36 mg82 are just mid

[ocean vine]

Dont use this emote

[thick tree]

Why you hate this dog

[fiery yoke]

Can someone explain to me, in DMZ weapon stats, what a damage multiplier of 0.2 means?

I tested it in the Training Ground, but the damage is the same everywhere.

[sinful shuttle]

shouldnt be. one body part below head should get a multiplier

[austere igloo]

comparing dingo to s36 & mg82 in the same sentence is just insulting

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

no its not fine at all

[faint gulch]

it is

thing has zero recoil

[faint gulch]

dingo is dogwater in practicality

youll hit shots with s36 and mg82
you won’t with dingo

[austere igloo]

shit ttk & range

it's like "how can we make the mg42 worse" = mg82

[faint gulch]

rpd and m4lmg have the same ttk but way worse recoil and rof and worse bsa/mobility

its range is fine, got buffed

[austere igloo]

don't feel any diff

[faint gulch]

more than anything
you’ll actually just

land shots with it

[austere igloo]

I hv to play s36 like pkm

[faint gulch]

avg ttk gonna be higher than on dingo

[austere igloo]

I've shafted dingo for god knows how long

[faint gulch]

it deserves it

[austere igloo]

I'm only grinding s36 now bcoz I wanna get it diamonded

I already got mastery on it

now the only thing left is to get it diamond

[sinful shuttle]

is this faster than melee running

[faint gulch]

yes

[soft root]

Wtf is this gunsmith

[sinful shuttle]

hipfire and speed

[cold minnow]

people how the fuck i win in this case

[soft root]

just win

[cold minnow]

medic (armor broken, use his skill and teammate comes)
trickster (one pumped and eliminated)
igniter
smoke bomber

i just run out of smoke after i wiped a team with my m1887 and mx9
i am using ninja
the final circle is a plain ground with no fucking cover
the only stuff i have at my hands are 3 ARs, a advanced AR, a single grenade and skiboard

Not to downvote the “Just win” bullshit (i want to do that either and i pick hs0405)
but does this kind of endgame have a perfect answer

[soft root]

reposition with skiboard

[rancid thicket]

isnt the type 25 with the stopping power mag just like ram but with less ammo and better range?

[faint gulch]

far worse recoil as well

[rancid thicket]

tbh i dont have trouble with the recoil of this gun

i dont even remember my build

[faint gulch]

if youre using steady stock it makes sejse

or on sync fov

[rancid thicket]

must be

[faint gulch]

if sync you also just see missed shots less tbf

[rancid thicket]

i remember i take a random type from the ground on ranked the recoil was horrendous

[faint gulch]

ram has nearly no recoil and, though t25 recoil isn’t “bad,” its very much existent
so quite simply youll miss more than ram while being punished more due to the smaller mag
ie generally worse

its a great gun though no hate to it

[austere igloo]

and somehow type25 is still the best sniper support AR in br

[faint gulch]

absolutely yes

[verbal nimbus]

I feel like the t25 works best in mp.

[faint gulch]

if you prefer it thats fine

[granite sail]

Are there gun builds faster than melee run? Or simply asked does anyone know the exact melee movement speeds?

[faint gulch]

cx9 burst with cx23 barrel + cxfr stock
and max sprint vmp

melee is 7.26m/s

[granite sail]

Thanks

[viscid belfry]

wb the guns with builds above?

[faint gulch]

cx9 is around 7.3-34 and vmp 7.43 iirc

might be off by a few

[viscid belfry]

damn

[faint gulch]

vmp max sprint build isnuh

pretty dogwater tho

[viscid belfry]

vmp is lol

[faint gulch]

cx9 has no issues with speed build

[faint gulch]

normal isnbest aggro gun

tho ion fw the irons

[viscid belfry]

if u got no aim shake skin sure

[tawny walrus]

@faint gulch Why colossus and gran on MoW?

[faint gulch]

it got shadow buffed

[viscid belfry]

big

[faint gulch]

15 on hit damage in initial phase

3 taps dauntless

[tawny walrus]

[faint gulch]

so its now useful to extend that so youre pretty mucb impossible to counter

[tawny walrus]

Like someone running dauntless.

[faint gulch]

flak as well

is 2 tapped iirc

[viscid belfry]

so whats a good build for thermow now

[faint gulch]

just sent one

[viscid belfry]

where

[faint gulch]

builds on it are pretty flexible tho

[faint gulch]

#codm-gunsmith-builds

[viscid belfry]

rubber on it isnt bad

[faint gulch]

thats fine too

on base marksman takes care of the bsa con
on thermite I just keep gran so you dont have to worry at all

[viscid belfry]

thermow its extremely annoying and useful

[granite sail]

I like ground loot rpd in BR, but for MP it always needs 4 shots and it not a good 4 tap

[faint gulch]

its pretty decent jn br yeah

mp its just bad besides the prefire aspect

[granite sail]

All LMGs need pre fire

And manual scoping

[granite sail]

Mg82 is just a balanced mg42

For some odd reason i became pretty bad with mg42 missing all my shots in BR and MP

Even with the barrel that improves recoil a good amount

Not the super improving one, the second one

[verbal nimbus]

I have begun the NA-45 diamond grind

[ocean vine]

Gunsmith

[viscid belfry]

gl

[verbal nimbus]

Its a pain but I do have a strategy

[viscid belfry]

hm

[verbal nimbus]

Ngl, its wayyy better than I thought

Especially in shipment domination

[viscid belfry]

whats the strategy

[verbal nimbus]

Domination works great cause you just shoot the middle of the objectives, as well as using the cryo grenades to make sure you can get them without enemies getting away. Demo expert perk helps a lot too

[undone sandal]

i wldnt use it icl
current thermow build imo is p strict

other attachments r either useless or worse

[faint gulch]

which do you use again

[undone sandal]

mine is rec

[faint gulch]

I forgor it

[undone sandal]

rec build

current

technically i did both rec builds
old n now

[faint gulch]

only one still existing

ik you use colossus now but forget the rest

[undone sandal]

old

[faint gulch]

whats new one

[undone sandal]

you're using it rn

delicately crafted to b the worst player to go against

[verbal nimbus]

I like using red dot on it

[devout zephyr]

Striker shotgun gunsmith pls

[wraith badger]

Br or mp?

[devout zephyr]

Mp

[wraith badger]

Choke, light barrel, sleight of hand, fast reload mag, and 5mw laser

[faint gulch]

oh sick

same line of thought

[faint gulch]

retractable barrel >>

[devout zephyr]

O ok thanks

Is there a website or smth for all the gunsmiths?

[undone sandal]

thought of it in 2024 or whatever since the buff

only got updated recently

[wraith badger]

Check my profile

[faint gulch]

on wtv I last sent drop soh

[wraith badger]

It's still in the process of being updated since the new season is gonna change things up

[faint gulch]

right right

[eternal depot]

@wraith badger gunsmith pro

[faint gulch]

only build change is dropshot wrap + 50r mandatory on xm4

[wraith badger]

[undone sandal]

yeah

dropshot only change

35/50 depending on what ur feelin

[faint gulch]

I forgot 35 existed lowkey

[undone sandal]

just that 45r is completely out of the picture

[faint gulch]

doesnt feel good enough though

[eternal depot]

Hi piper

[wraith badger]

Hiya 👋🏼

[faint gulch]

reload not fast enough, mag not fat enough

[eternal depot]

[undone sandal]

either have shit ads shit flinch or shit mvmt spd

[faint gulch]

yeah sad

[undone sandal]

yeah

[devout zephyr]

Holy it's all for mp right?

[faint gulch]

45 felt so satisfying

[undone sandal]

still a better opt than 45 postnerf

[wraith badger]

Yup yup

[undone sandal]

unless you're really forcing the slow route

[faint gulch]

plug my google drive trust 💯

jkjk though

[faint gulch]

sadly so

[devout zephyr]

Alr thanks a lot man

[undone sandal]

run colo

[wraith badger]

🙏🏼

[undone sandal]

don't use tac

[faint gulch]

colossues

[undone sandal]

cant wait for dudes to dropgran for lightbarrel

🙏

make the gun thats better for ranged play shit for range

[verbal nimbus]

Hm?

[faint gulch]

colossus suppressor

combat stock keeps the ads more than fine for how it plays so nws

[verbal nimbus]

Why would you use it through? Most of the damage comes from the thermite

[undone sandal]

helps against the two counter perks

since they buffed initial dmg range from 10 to 15

noticable difference

[faint gulch]

after they buffed the on hit damage in first range
you 2 tap flak and 3 tap dauntless

rather than the 3 and 5 hit kills respectively prior

[verbal nimbus]

If someone else has something like that, I usually switch to my secondary. I run some kind of smg with it like the vmp or something else

[undone sandal]

thermow one of the guns that kills faster the more your shots land

[verbal nimbus]

I dont run it that often thus why I have to use my trial loadout just for the thermite ammo

[undone sandal]

best case 4 shots land on 15 dmg range

450ms ttk

if just 2 land 870ms

assumed thermite deals 13 dmg per

only some cases where how long the ttk matters

too long then they get a chance to regen

where wounding comes in 😋

[faint gulch]

oh yeah that too

[undone sandal]

they didnt die? theyre out of the game for 7 seconds or so

[faint gulch]

you can’t rly predict that

and if so youre having to run overkill which cucks you off skill overdrive

[undone sandal]

actually one of the cases where having them alive on low health is betterthan killing them immediately and respawning elsewhere

since its actually 1 less player

actively doing nothing

[faint gulch]

true true

[verbal nimbus]

I only play snd soooo i dont have to worry bout that

[faint gulch]

then greed

flak + pinpoint my beloved

better to maximize a guns efficiency than need a wildcard + secondary gun for situational kills

[verbal nimbus]

I feel like pinpoint doesn't do anything

[undone sandal]

arguable

[faint gulch]

aim assist is 25% stronger

[undone sandal]

pinpoint mainly depends how good your base aim is

[faint gulch]

with a red outline

[undone sandal]

if ur base aim n tracking is shit then pinpoint wont save u

u wont notice the difference rather

[faint gulch]

easy to see a camper you get hit by
more consistent aiming as a whole

[verbal nimbus]

Id rather run flak and resupply

[undone sandal]

wouldnt say its completely useless for someone that has low-mid aim

but its a lot more beneficial if ur aim is decent

[verbal nimbus]

My aim is pretty good but idk, id rather not rely on aim assist for kills

[faint gulch]

its not relying on aa

its just a bonus

since aim is always the most important aspect
its logical to prioritize that

[verbal nimbus]

Idk maybe its just not my preference qwq

[novel compass]

Hello!! world I'd like a loadout for the MG42 and M4LMG, PKM, ASM10, AGR556 Please And I appreciate it!

[tired grove]

MG42:

• Maxim silencer
  31M barrel
  skeletal stock
  fmj/disable/leather rear grip
  13mm anti-material drums

M4LMG:
Ultralight barrel
Mono supp
Rds
Disable
Gran grip

PKM:
Mono
Steady stock
Disable/FMJ
Mag B
Gran grip

ASM10:
Mono supp
Branson barrel
No stock
33 round mag
Gran grip

AGR idk the build since I don't use that now

[faint gulch]

disables fine on pkm too, or over mag on mg42

[soft root]

Thanks

[unkempt acorn]

Can I have lw3 tundra ,locus and dlq builds pls ?

[sinful shuttle]

np

[sinful shuttle]

no you can’t

[ruby iris]

Mm 🅱️in🅱️oint so good

Mm

[faint gulch]

real

[eternal depot]

Binboint

[honest crown]

Does someone have a good build for the so14 in dmz?

[cosmic mesa]

Good day all

[novel compass]

@faint gulch @tired grove much love to the both of you!!

[faint gulch]

mwah

[faint gulch]

id tiger team on tundra now
or airborne wrap if hammer dtill

[balmy temple]

It used to be goated. Codm nerfed it to hell for some reason

[tired grove]

Np

[viscid belfry]

the idea of shorty its to be a extremely strong pistol

like in real life if u saw off a barrel on shotgun it gets even more powerful

but ye they nerfed it hard

[silver yarrow]

woah woah woah, who gave you the tundra

[tired grove]

Got it by luck

[solar python]

Just got the Legendary Carmine Flare camo for the Argus

[austere igloo]

Carmine Flare is not camo

It’s a blueprint

[solar python]

You know what I meant. I call it a camo, whether that's correct or not

[rancid thicket]

i call steve

[unique raven]

Thanks

[verbal nimbus]

Smrs build for snd?

[unique raven]

Smrs?

Uhhh

[sinful shuttle]

np

[verbal nimbus]

Ah yes, thank you sir.

XD

[unique raven]

Np

[soft root]

Np

[pale flame]

Youre welcome

[viscid belfry]

[verbal nimbus]

[pale flame]

Dont use that emote

[verbal nimbus]

Why

[viscid belfry]

[brazen roost]

Bro what are those blueprints

Anyways, einhorn build anyone?

[unreal gale]

A5 Smoothbore, KLAUSER 710MM 02B Barrel, Klauser S2 Stock, Carver Foregrip, and 16 Gauge 5rnd Fast Mag

[pale flame]

the 2nd is the Flowing Bronze rare camo

[brazen roost]

Ty

[rich arch]

[unique raven]

Locus is from 2020 season 6

[dusky rain]

What's Meta this season

[unique raven]

Marksman so14

Lmg raal pkm maybe

[dusky rain]

It's taking me forever to Level it up

[unique raven]

Smg vmp (haven't used us9 this season)

[dusky rain]

Wasted all my xp cards on it and it's only on 74 🌾🌾

[unique raven]

Dawg what 💀

[dusky rain]

Yes 😭😭

[unique raven]

Are you a new player

[dusky rain]

Pkm?

[dusky rain]

Returning

[unique raven]

I see

[dusky rain]

No idea what to even use at this pint

[viscid belfry]

and still top 1

[unique raven]

Because I have many xp cards

[unique raven]

That's my favourite locus skin

[viscid belfry]

which

[dusky rain]

I'm a try vmp heard it's good

[viscid belfry]

it will feel weird at start

[unique raven]

Flowing bronze fr

[viscid belfry]

neptune/demonic breath>

[dusky rain]

Feel weird?

[unique raven]

I prefer my rare skin

[dusky rain]

What's the best build btw

[viscid belfry]

its shaky and steady

[dusky rain]

So it's a mid range gun?

[unique raven]

No idea

[dusky rain]

Vro 😭

[unique raven]

Close range

[dusky rain]

The hell

Alr Im a just use it lowkey

[unique raven]

Well this is the one I use

[dusky rain]

Ty

[pale flame]

Np

[drifting lava]

Someone give me a good ak117 build

[faint gulch]

marksman or tac fg b over gran is also good

[drifting lava]

Thanks

[rich arch]

Is it worth it to use mow without thermite?

[faint gulch]

no

[rich arch]

[silver yarrow]

Fym thanks

You whale

[brazen roost]

Mm

[ocean vine]

Gunsmith

[trail sleet]

is this good or not?

[ocean vine]

Yesn't

[sly orchid]

A build ive seen uses Taskforce barrel and striker foregrip instead of the stock

[brazen roost]

Good, but taskforce

Gunsmith

[brazen roost]

What i used for longshots

Cus yes

[faint gulch]

crying

[brazen roost]

Red dead.style

[unique raven]

Np

[viscid belfry]

being whale on codm its extremely good lmfao

[viscid belfry]

have u ever heard about whale acc?

[silver yarrow]

stacked

[viscid belfry]

yes

[silver yarrow]

yes

[viscid belfry]

[split ice]

@faint gulch more of a personal build there, I prefer rustle over firm as the hit flinch is barely noticeable (for me atleast). I also prefer agile over lightweight stock as I play anchor and i like the sprint to fire time, so I'm not into aggressive plays where you'd require hip firing since im usually rotating across the map. For the magazine, I prefer having as much bullets as possible even if i trade off some mobility cause this game eats my bullets and doesn't register alot of them

[faint gulch]

latter is valid

the flinch is free, I see no reason not to use it (even if you dont notice it, I assure you it exists)

and agile stock same sh
sprint to fire is useless unless youre thumbs thats all

[split ice]

ehh, i usually run toughness on slow guns

dont mind the flinch

[undone sandal]

arguable

if you have to sacrifice a perk slot just to have manageable flinch

the gun does not have good flinch

[faint gulch]

yeah

quick fix or sum is really nice to have

but if you still want the flinch lower than firm has then ig it doesnt matter

[ocean vine]

Gunsmith

[tired grove]

Suppressor
Barrel
Optic
Stock
Perk
Underbarrel
Ammunition
Grip tape
Laser

Here, thank me later

[obsidian dagger]

For which gun?

[tired grove]

Every gun’s attachments

[obsidian dagger]

💖

[brazen roost]

This gun in br.. chefs kiss

[unique raven]

I am a f2p

[brazen roost]

One day I'll grind the einhorn

[silver yarrow]

[viscid belfry]

i did

ngl after no attachments its fun

[brazen roost]

I remember it sucking

The entire time

[wraith badger]

Armor piercer mag>

[fervent scarab]

i have 2 koshka loadouts

dw piper

[unique raven]

Thanks

[ocean vine]

Thanks

[faint gulch]

my fav build

so goated

[faint gulch]

fast switch is useless, use light suppressor

also toughness > amped
just use overkill with max sprint cx9 or vmp for even better mobility and swap speed lol

[viscid belfry]

i have skill and aim issue and i got gold/plat/damascus on it easily

[fervent scarab]

Dont like suppressed koshka

[fervent scarab]

Im grinding lb for koshka so yea

[verbal nimbus]

Should I switch to using a suppressor on the na-45 for search or just keep the owc light compensator? I feel like suppressor isn't worth putting on it

[faint gulch]

?

lb grind doesnt change any of those

[fervent scarab]

I know

[faint gulch]

its fine either way, use what youre more comfortable with atp

[fervent scarab]

But im just using it like that, idk why

[faint gulch]

fair enough ig

[fervent scarab]

Never bothered to change

[verbal nimbus]

I think its not worth it to sacrifice the recoil control

[faint gulch]

if you still have with issues with steady stock then yeah fs

[tired grove]

Np

[brazen roost]

Why is it, been meaning to ask

[faint gulch]

its 1 frame faster switch speed at most lol

quite literally never worth the attachment slot

[brazen roost]

I see

[balmy prairie]

Heyy friend

[brazen roost]

[silver yarrow]

[silver yarrow]

Derk whale

[cold minnow]

people just want to ask how should i maxmizing usage of vtol and ac130

also how do i make those metal knocking sounds goes away quick enough

[brazen roost]

Aim at spawns

[clear forum]

Interesting

[faint gulch]

oh youre here

[viscid belfry]

who him

[knotty wagon]

Good Ul loadout?

[faint gulch]

admin from lod

[faint gulch]

no1 ul736 player approved (me)

[viscid belfry]

damn

[viscid belfry]

[faint gulch]

I’ll never not flex that

[viscid belfry]

well i got master with that build so its smth

and also

ex no1 lmao

[knotty wagon]

Used this but the vertical recoil is +12

[faint gulch]

bsa recoil and range all not good for what it is

and still not fast enough to be at all aggro

[thick tree]

If only UL didn’t have such a stupid looking hold pose in lobby

[faint gulch]

I’ll do unspeakable things to you

[midnight lantern]

[viscid belfry]

he will trust

[thick tree]

Why on all builds in top3 lb recommendation for asm10 use marksman barrel instead of branson?

[soft root]

Branson skill gap

[thick tree]

But it’s kinda mid without it

Like they best of best with that gun like bruh

[soft root]

Most r br spammers

= bot kills so doesn’t matter

[brazen roost]

Likely missing their first 2 shots i guess

[tawny walrus]

@strong monolith Give SO14 build for BR.

Please.

[brazen roost]

I'm not isleep but this is it

[tawny walrus]

50 mag?

[brazen roost]

Yeah

From my experience if you're running 50 don't use mag mod

You could just use disable instead and run mag mod

[brazen roost]

Actually yeah, 50 round and then long range, vert, and sniper expert

@tawny walrus if you have the mythic or like the irons

[soft root]

Ur a rich borgir

[brazen roost]

Not my image

Mythic doesn't look great imo

Still worth having to save a slot i guess, tho I haven't tried it with irons for long range

[soft root]

[soft root]

M4 lowkey so ass in br
Groundloot at least

[tight wind]

L take

Used it multiple times and its very good (at least for me)

[soft root]

Pea shooter

Shoot real players next time 🥀

[tight wind]

Just say you don’t know how to shoot with a gun that isnt ak117 in br

[soft root]

ur the one who glazing guns with high aa

[brazen roost]

Nah, it's solid imo

For groundloot

[soft root]

C/d tier

[brazen roost]

I'd say C

For me it's reliable in seasons like this where ground loot is not great

[viscid belfry]

it is

one of the bests

[tawny walrus]

Nah.

[brazen roost]

Eh

[viscid belfry]

dont tell me u a shit ending enjoyer

[unique raven]

Only got aim assist

[brazen roost]

Mm, not really

[viscid belfry]

then whats the problem? lol

[unique raven]

Grim ending is assss

[brazen roost]

So14 just doesn't look that great

[viscid belfry]

very

[viscid belfry]

tied to type 63 tho

[unique raven]

I can't say shit since I hate almost every mythic

[brazen roost]

I'm talking of the mythic skin

[viscid belfry]

for me its sick

[brazen roost]

Mm

[viscid belfry]

lmfao

i do have 3

1 paid and 2 free

[brazen roost]

I really just like krig, bp50, type 19, xm4, mg42

And vmp

[viscid belfry]

demonsong its one of the bests for me

[brazen roost]

Used to be my favourite

But it just fell, wasn't really looking at it much anymore

[viscid belfry]

i still use it on my alt

[faint gulch]

dawg m4 is thw same but worse 😭 boosted aim asisst but bad ttk always

[tight wind]

Does the same logic apply to the kilo then?

[faint gulch]

kilo doesnt have boosted aim assist

only other one is ak47 and ofc deagle + any sniper or shotgun

[tight wind]

Whenever i face off against any ak117 while i have the m4 more than have the the time kill first tho

Anyway this boosted aim assist thing in br is bullshit anyway

[faint gulch]

bc most br players are bad, especially ones that are gonna need to cope on 117

I was beating dlq concussions with na45 but it is in no world better

[tight wind]

Well can agree on that

Sad they removed the kilo and oden from ground loot

[faint gulch]

oden cleared all ground loot yeah

kilo uh, decent as groundloot ig? would never touch it as a custom tho

[tight wind]

It mogs the ak117 and oden in terms of damage

[faint gulch]

117 at times oden no

its close range ttk is decent but past that it gets bad really fast

recoil is a bit jagged too

[tight wind]

Many time i used kilo as ground and killed players using custom oden and 117

[faint gulch]

skill gapping doesnt relate to guns

a custom oden is just straightup better

at literally every range

[tight wind]

Well i play alcatraz so the map is smaller

[faint gulch]

its a lot more usable there than on iso thats for sure

but still
just pick up t25

or even m13 or sum

[tight wind]

I dont even go close to iso or blackout

[faint gulch]

regardless
t25 best auto, gonna kill twice as fast as kilo

[unique raven]

These br mains be lacking in intelligence

[rancid thicket]

hollow point mag:

[tight wind]

No just no

[unique raven]

On which weapon

[unique raven]

But what if yes

[faint gulch]

t25 barely has slower ttk while javing far better range and mag

[faint gulch]

wdym no lol its just fact

for a close-mid range ar, nothing beats t25

[rancid thicket]

cx9

[unique raven]

Close range only

[faint gulch]

cx9 burst is submeta iirc

requires a good magmod and is still pretty limited

[rancid thicket]

in br

[faint gulch]

yes in br

mp doesnt have mag mods last I checked

[unique raven]

MP has

[sly orchid]

Say you know nothing about the br meta without saying you know nothing

[unique raven]

Lmao

[faint gulch]

real

[unique raven]

Every idiot in br simply just uses what everyone else uses

And I kinda like it that way. Keeps the enemies doing shit

[sly orchid]

And trying to say that the Kilo of all guns is better lmao

[faint gulch]

true free kills

[unique raven]

Kilo feels nice but that's it

[rancid thicket]

kilo even with the 100 magazine still mid as a lmg

[faint gulch]

an lmg needs to be usable at range

kilo has trash range ttk and not good recoil so

[rancid thicket]

yep

i was playing dmz today

i got bored of using only ram7 in this mode

so i tried kilo and this thing was doing 19 dmg in mid range

🤣

on a bot

and i still solo a squad with this crap

on building 21

[faint gulch]

checks out

[viscid belfry]

bc kilo 141 its op

even not being op

[verbal nimbus]

Dobvra build if I dont want akimbo?

[midnight lantern]

@hushed linden

[silver yarrow]

laser gae

[faint gulch]

its not visible dawg

1mw is free hipfire, great for pistols

[silver yarrow]

i js use the mobility build

[faint gulch]

?

tf you doing to get mobility on dobvra

[silver yarrow]

the recommended one for mobility

alt for sniper

[faint gulch]

probably horrible

[silver yarrow]

nah

[faint gulch]

most system recommendations are a good way to lose

[silver yarrow]

its good for finshing hitmarks

[faint gulch]

they’ll legitimately think stippled is good or sum

[faint gulch]

this is better

hipfire laser so you can spam them down instead of needing time to ads

[silver yarrow]

whatever blud

[faint gulch]

its just true brochacho

would be pleased if you could tell me why it isn’t ofc

[silver yarrow]

ogae, i dont even use anything except machine anyways

[faint gulch]

checks out

[faint gulch]

machine pistol getting hard nerfed though rip

lcar returns to the throne

[azure rose]

what nerf?