#codm-gunsmith-help
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I’m happy as well, considering the free legendaries and mythic coming soon 
Definitely
The purifier leggy this season too was great
The H2O is still better imo tho
Facts facts
Ok so let's start off by talking about ranged primaries (ARs/LMGs that you will be using for mid-long range)
The 4 variables that make a ranged primary meta are
- TTK: Basically how lethal the gun is
- Accuracy: This includes recoil, aim assist, and bullet speed
- Damage per mag: This determines how many ppl you can fight before you need to reload
- Misc: This is stuff like bullet impact and if the weapon has full body Disable
Mobility is nice but is not a major factor
Examples of some meta ranged primaries:
- AK117: Double the aim assist compared to most weapons. TTK is competitive but nothing too special. Recoil is a bit random
- M13: Very competitive TTK that doesn't rely on dmg multis. Low recoil. Fast bullet speed. Jack of all trades that doesn't excel anywhere but still strong in most categories
- Bruen MK9: 2nd best overall TTK amongst all ranged primaries. Very high bullet impact. Disable perk applies to the entire body. Fastest bullet speed amongst all ranged primaries. Moderate recoil. High visual shake
Then there is the CQC secondaries (SMGs that you use for close range)
This time there are 3 variales
- TTK
- Hipfire accuracy
- DPM
Mobiilty is more useful here but shouldn't be the main focus
Examples of meta CQC secondaries:
- TEC-9 burst: Top tier TTK, high DPM, competitive hipfire accuracy
- CX9 burst: Triple the range of TEC9 while having near identical TTK but also a quarter of the mag size
Ah I understand. Do these weapons usually require specific modules to do their things or are the mods just extra details to boost them?
Can someone please give me a mp loadout for switchblade?
Activision needs to hire you and Tych !!!! 
Mods are basically super strong attachments
In fact your custom weapon is incomplete without mods
Change all the recommended codm builds (from the game section) to LOD stats recommended builds and this will also be the best collab ever
But a meta weapon shouldn't rely on high tier mods to be competitive
And the most useful one
Its quite common for meta BR weapons to rely on certain attachments which means that they are good as custom only and bad as ground loot
Bruen needs the 60r mag
TEC9 needs the burst repeater and taskforce barrel
CX9 needs burst mag
The BR format seems interesting compared to the simplicity of MP. Looks like there’s more factors taken into account for the meta
There is a lot more nuance that goes into a weapon in BR than MP
Although the roles of a weapon are a lot simpler
Contrary to popular belief, its not just AK117 in BR
Even though it is still a top tier weapon
What are the best ground loot weapons would you say? And can you lend me some good builds for loadouts if it wouldn’t be asking too much?
Currently I'd say AK117 + Fennec is the go to ground loot combo
Honestly I might get into BR more, I’d just need to practice a lot
I see. Thanks for the info Sleep 🙏🏼
As for builds
AK117
- Ranger fg
- Marksman
- Steady stock
- Optic
- 48r mag
Mods: Long range, Precise, Ext mag
Bruen MK9
- Summit barrel
- Optic
- Stalker stock
- 60r mag
- Disable
Mods: Long range, Precise, Ext mag
M13
- Long barrel
- 60r mag
- Optic
- Ranger fg
- Tac laser
Mods: Long range, Precise, Ext mag
Appreciate it man
TEC-9
- Burst fire repeater
- Taskforce barrel
- Stanag mag
- 5mW
- Striker fg
Mods: Long range, Hipfire, Ext mag
CX9
- Flash guard
- CX-38
- 12r mag
- SoH
- 5mW
Mods: Long range, Hipfire, Ext mag
Does extended mag boost the ammo capacity of the 12 round CX9?
Because that honestly sounds a little broken
Yes it does
You can go up to 42
And with SoH, the reload time is basically instant
Ak 47 pls
Build
Grip barrel
Rubberised
50r mag
Optic
Strike stock
Mods: Long range, Precise, Ext mag
That’s nasty 😭
I’ll try it out tomorrow
The main downside to CX9 burst is that its very reliant on ext mods
Because you need a blue one minimum to be competitive
It also has worse hipfire spread than most SMGs so you gotta ADS a lot
Ahh I see
⭐
QQ9 please?
5mW
Long barrel
45r mag
Flash guard
No stock
Mods: Long range, Hipfire, Ext mag
Mg42 BR build is recoil booster, rapid barrel, disable, 250 mag round, and taped grip right?
Recoil booster
Luftschutz barrel
13mm
Disable
Optic
Mods: Long range, Precise, Vertical
Nice this is exactly what I was using. I remember you also suggested changing these attachments:
Rapid barrel and Sakura rounds
Recoil stock instead of grip
That MG looks strangely pretty
But for me this build was always more useful because I'm facing a lot of vehicle drivers
Yeah I like it too. Mythic though is 🔥
Carry around an RPG everywhere you go🤞🏼
After the nerfs, the build has changed
I have never seen a gun's build change so much due to patches
FFAR build
Ohh 👀 so now we use this one with the anti material or the one you recommended to me sometime ago 
Do you have it? It came out when I was stingy with my cash so I couldn’t get it 💔
13mm build
Same here. I couldn't get it but I worked and I saved up and I'm waiting for it to return. Sadly, they have brought back all the older ones multiple times and the mg42 , the cx9 are still nowhere to be seen lol
Perfect 
They brought back M13, sx9, Oden, Holger, kilo lol
All these guns were already available not even a while ago
My favorite mythic would have to be the EM2, I pray for its return 🤞🏼
Funny thing about this is that when I decide to carry the FHJ18 I don't have to use it and I face many sniper campers. Alternatively, when I carry a sniper suddenly everyone is using hover bikes 
Here's how ZRG AV or Rytec explosive mag comes in handy 
Mg42 anti material, ots9 AV mag
So the final story behind this is that the 13mm build was the best and then they nerfed it and the build changed and then additional nerfs occurred so we're back to this build? 
I was fiddling around with a bunch of builds when the game first came out
I initially said 13mm
But later on I said run the 0 recoil build
After the nerf I still said 0 recoil
Then I decided to mess around with builds again
Story of my life 
So we're back to 13mm
Any lk24 users
That's amazing

Yeah lmaooo
M13 users??
When you go to loot the first airdrop and you get the FHJ 18 and suddenly noone is using any vehicle 
Lmao I feel that. I want to get back into BR but the snipers do have me shivering in my boots I’m not gonna fret
Im just running fennec and t19 rn, ive just accepted my fate 

Yup same but I am stuck with m13 and dlq
Fennec gunsmith please
They were meta when I started playing..
Dlq was one shot on legs too
Anyone wanna play rn?
I can play in a few minutes
Id?
Rtc steady,rds,mono,ext mag a, operator foregrip
Akimbo good?
Only for super close range
Nvm
Bro not optics
I need ironsight
If you don't mind irons, use tac laser
Uhmmm ohk
Im running
mono (just for range)
Extendet barrel
Extendet Mag
Steady
Ranger grip
Something else I realised is that sometimes you suggest that muzzle break (for vertical and lateral recoil) and I'm always thinking that many players will attack you because they mainly use monolithic 
@rich arch u up?
can someone help me identify the build using a video? i couldnt find the build and gun for the specific weapon and gunsmith
Almost ready
Share your id
Which one?
I don't think mono is worth it unless it doesn't have the BSA penalty (like Oden)
Because what's the point in boosting range by 2-5m when your recoil is not gonna let you use at range
Good point 
i cant send link here
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV4-5Y9nxLg
And being undetectable on the mini map (radar) isn't mandatory right?

And 5mW is kinda pointless in MP
True
Humm
In BR, you still ping on the map even when suppressed
In fact, it has a unique indicator on the map which can be seen as a downside as players can go "Oh, he has a custom" or "Oh, he's not a bot"

What's the gun tho?
yeah, thats the problem
.
anyone whos chronically online in codm and knows everything please identify what weapon and what gunsmith is that
The 1st one 2nd one or 3rd one?
2nd was uss9 and 3rd was drh, I'm not sure about the 1st one..
Anybody wants to play rn?
I need the best RPD ( for mp ) and AK117 ( for br ) gunsmith .
Ak117:
Owc compensator
Owc marksman
Rtc steady stock
48rnd mag
Owc laser/red dot sight
ahhhh rubberized, 5mw and grip barrel with no suppressor
I 🪚 it in utube
utube ass
aw fuck nah

So i’m trying snipers cos i wanna learn and cos i wanna revenge😂 what is the fastest? I’m trying outlaw and it seems the faster but i read is not the best
Help cos also i see many people playing this game with 4 fingers and i just play normally on phone with 2 fingers and i dunno if i can be really competitive
fastest as in?
Scoping
guys where is the redemption center 😢 I think codm is hiding it from me
events > theme > other
alternatively u can go to the new button near ur profile
I want drh for mp
people play this game with 4 fingers??????
how tho 😭
25R otm
ranger
no stock
mono
gran
And RPD ?
Grip barrel is suppressed
oopsiedaisy
@hoary flare
Hg-40 or gorza which one is better and build mp
yeh
fmj
cc barrel
steady stock
tac/mono
gran
No clue but they do
it isn’t hard
just a bit of practice, i got comfy with it in like 2 weeks
Noobish Ahh recoil
i've got my two thumbs and i've come so far 🥲
i can't even imagine how that would work
but how's gameplay been since you got used to that?
massively better, because you can aim, move, shoot and jump and the same time
basically you play with 2 thumbs and 2 index fingers and hold your phone with the remaining 6 fingers
Np
I play with 5 😭
Some do like 8 on tab
like that for example
Can anyone help me with a legit CR 56 AMAX gunsmith?
Ranger fg instead of red dot
MP? BR?
MP
Thanks
You can also use steady stock instead of granu
Monolithic, MIP custom long, extended mag A, granulated tape, no stock
Tysm!
No worries 
I stick with 2🤣
One question
When scoping u can reset the scoping while pressing the red x
Can u have that also on the left side cos i’m pretty sure i saw it but i dunno how to enable the function or it come with certain things?
I would make a pic to explain my self but i cant
You want to place the ads button on the left side of your screen?
I use to see the red x also on the left but not now
If i scope and I don’t want to fire i can disable from the left but not anymore
Yes
Can anyone teach me how to be a pro shotgun user BR
How tf you 5 finger players play
Use ur brain
Practice
use 3 finger
Stupid answer
No life detected opinion rejected
OK mb bro
Watch kith video on five finger hud
I learn five fingers from him
It is easier for u to learn five fingers if u play 4
like 4, but 1 middle finger added
or just lay the phone/tablet down on a desk or something
Both have different playstyles
I think groza is close range while hg-40 is close-mid range
I haven’t tried groza yet you got a build on it?
Haven't played in a long time, so I forget the build
@strong monolith
I'm playing using my foot
granulated/ext barrel can be operator fg
Switch gyro from only scope to all the time in case you have not
But uss9 and bp50 players crush this when it goes face to face... Is there any remedy?
@brazen dagger ??
Also the ironsight is pretty shit for epic skins
Experience
Is fennec really a F2P gun??
Yes
..
@rich arch
Use uss9, that's the remedy
😂😂
Im not quite getting the gun tho, is it for passive?
Can be used anyhow
I want to play agressive, what would be the build?
Monolithic
First responder barrel
Forge tac ultralight
32 ae. Rnds
Granulated/optic
Okayy thanks
he asked for most aggressive, also it can beat bp50 and uss9 in cqc
try cx9
cx-38s
cx-fr
cx-9 Ace grip
50 rnd mag
laser
i use cx9 aswell but i,d say fennec is even more aggressive
cx9 is more skillful
Cx9 with burst mag
not at all, fennec needs way more skill
i gave you standard build but i use the burst one
yeah that needs insane skill but full auto is easy af
yeah okay burst is really skillful
Most of the time you want bullet spread accuracy, unless it's a burst gun, then you want control
Ok what about smgs?
That's more mixed, but with the ones I use I go for BSA
Kk
try the tec9 with this build
burst repeater
8.1
sas combat
fast ext mag
striler foregrip
@brittle fog
tundra or dlq
Idk I would rather replace the mag with a larger one and have a longer barrel like my current one:
53 round
Soh
Aim assist laser
6.5"
Ic muzzle
soh is useless ngl and 40 rnd are more than enough
Ok I'll get rid of soh but I'll def need the 53 rnd
6.5” doesent exist
Need a drh build asap pls🙏🏿
Mono Supp, Ranger Barrel, No Stock, Gran Grip, 25rnd OTM Mag
Appreciate u my boy
Stock can be replaced with a suppressor
bro dont knows tundra..
lw3 tundra
crazy build
“Ping for free hugs” 😭😭
Tundra
+2y giving free hugs
if u talking about scope one it used to have 9s
I mean tiger barrel isn't very helpful in mp so..
when released
Wym
it does if you run fmj
It does
Yeah you can replace soh with fmj. I'd this build for respawns
i just run the same build on all modes
they do essentially the same thing
so why change
All snipers have idle sway yes
ofc it will have it
The only sniper that technically doesn't have idle sway is HDR
But that one is because the breath hold time is so long that you usually never experience it
Unless you hardscope for very long
Cap
True
Ak117
whats wrong with it ?
build for mp?

Agr , Qq9, ppsh , razorback ? Mp build
Overall UZI
Idk about my ppsh build how bad or good it is I just added some attachments that looked good kinda was in a rush
Everyone uses qq9 but I really don’t care for it . Thought I give it another shot lol
Qq9 I never see in ranked
I used to use it all the time
I dont see it a lot either, but its still pretty good
Underrated smg
Very, but only with the 10mm mag, without its kinda mid
Its not like its bad
There's just better alternatives
extended light better

💯
Shield turret and persistence perk💀
Best DLQ33 Build with AK117 and M4 Best Build for Battle Royale Anyone Suggest Me Please
rm for machine pistol 👁️
non
I miss when the game was about having fun and not being meta obsessed
Best build for jak12 thermite rounds?
Ext barrel
Choke
Owc laser
SoH/granulated
its a heavy sniper so its not a ultra agressive sniper
but its very nice and stable
if u want it bc of leggy go ahead
No i will wait for a more aggressive one… also i’m in love with locus more the others
Ah do u have a build for xpr50?
never was
QXR is great at catching quick players, (close to midrange) while allowing you to be quick as well.
While using it I almost always catched players right before they got into cover something not many guns manages to do in the heat of the moment.
Recommend as second option for when you're about to get spawn trapped by skillful players.
So when?

We had meta spam since s1 2019
With s36

When I could ask for an LK gunsmith and actually got it. instead of some NPC to say "Just use X weapon because it's meta"
I know there are people that aren't like that but if you scroll up you'll see what I'm talking about
I did, but I still had to give the build to the other guy
Then just give the build

I did
Then there's no problem
...
Dont make it your problem and it wont be your problem
@latent orbit So you asked abt BP50 vs S36 in BR
Thank you so much!!
So s36 better?? Only at long range
Damn s36 is shredding
It seems Bruen is better at mid range but similar to s36 at close range. Then s36 gets better at longer ranges.
Or I may just be dumb
You're right
I 7362404627504889857
A worse type 19 is what I've heard
as it should be
Even with attachments?
From a pure TTK perspective yes
But realistically speaking Bruen is better for long range because faster bullet speed and less recoil so you'll end up hitting stuff more at range
Yes agreed
I'll try bruen again
I don't know if it has any special attachments, base version is mid is what I know
Yes
Hi
Anyone have dlq33 balance and as fast as posibble gunsmith?
- Light suppressor
- Mip light barrel
- Combat stock/skeleton stock (whichever one gives more ads)
- Owc laser
- Fmj
Which gun could be a middle way between assault and sniper? 😂
I’m starting to love sniper
Maybe try using type 63? Or type 19 with sniper mag
@strong monolith can you do one vs cr56 amax too pls?
BP vs AMAX?
Bruen vs s36 vs amax
Or can you tell me the site or app you use?
Or is this your own data?
I made my own excel sheet
I might try just very curious
where did you find those
I put them together myself after calculating for each gun individually
dm me now
no
Oh hey guys can u tell me which perks are better for drh
@ruby iris Why not 50 mag on XM4?
Feels like too much penalty imo
-20% reload speed?
35 fast has 0 cons
I dunno, it doesn’t seem too bad for me.
I'd go 50 because 35 is too small on a gun of this fire rate
Yeah, agree.
its not a big of a deal
you can use it
just don t rush like german in france
(it is a motto in my country dont be annoying)
yes
no
yo can anyone tell me the best gunsmith for legendary krm
mono suppressor
rtc light ext barrel
no stock
gran grip tape
MIP laser
@tribal surge
Can anyone get me a dingo tundra and man of war load out
Marauder suppressor, not mono
yes marauder sorry
mow thermite?
dingo:
steel rain suppressor
steel rain barrel
black ops stock
quickdraw grip
aim assist laser
Tundra:
tac suppressor
28,2” tiger
7 rnd
airbone elastic
fmj
We are getting blackops m4.
MUREKIII
Hello.
hyd?
cursed?
studying
Actually scope makes them cursed if you remove it it'll be 50% less cursed.
yes your right
Nice role you got there.
Thanks
thankyou bro 🙏
You're very welcome always glad to help
oden or lag, maybe?
range, bro 😭
monolithic suppressor, marksman barrel, no stock, enhanced bolt, A mag or granulated grip tape
tactical suppressor, cqp barrel, no stock, tactical foregrip A, and stopping power mag
really fun to play with, just the nonexistent flinch recovery time is annoying
tactical suppressor, memorial barrel, combat stock, 9rnd mag, and stippled grip tape
dlq doesn't need range boosting cus it does 90 damage forever
owc light suppressor, mip light barrel, ranger stock, maevwat mag, and disable
marksman barrel, steady stock, 48rnd mag, tactical laser, and compensator
tactical laser instead of soh
razorback*
monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, light stock, rapid fire perk, and granulated grip tape
integral barrel with suppressor at once? 
monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, no stock, 48rnd mag, granulated grip tape or tactical laser
then it aint the right build
owc light suppressor, short barrel, mobility stock, armor piercer mag, and stippled grip tape
drag?? as in crosshair drift or?
join voice chat
just use that build I gave you, with iron lungs
hi
increase steady aiming time
but you could just scope in and out, it resets the steady aiming time anyways
one v one any one
sure do
agency suppressor, gru composite barrel, bandit steady stock, 50rnd drum, and firm grip tape
marksman barrel, steady stock, tactical laser, 48rnd mag, and compensator (ext mag, vertical recoil, lateral recoil mods)
I'd say groza from my experience...
agency suppressor, gru composite barrel, bandit steady stock, 50rnd drums, and firm grip tape
officially, its xpr but either tundra, outlaw, or koshka are jsut as reliable
@plucky sand m16
tactical suppressor, no stock, granulated grip tape or optic, 48rnd mag, and wild fire perk
@burnt girder
cx9:
cx-38S barrel, cx-FR stock, 50rnd drum, ace rear grip, and sleight of hand or optic
by the way, your uh builds are a tad bit wrong, I'd say 😭
Ty i always wait for your answer 🥹
🤣 
😂
@clear knoll use 150rnd belt instead of stock, I'd say
and fmj instead of granulated grip tape
Trust me, give it a shot, you'll see why
what makes raal sort-of meta is its unparalled wallbang potential so capitilize on that power
with my build, raal has ZERO wallbang damage dropoff with any wall type
That's why I use this build
its fine
100% pen is its niche but it works well w/o it
moreso pkm alternative
ahh thanks for the information 
so granulated+folded stock is a good combo
its fine
if u want to wallbang use 150 fmj
if ur not planning on it then dont bother
alright then
ya

A DEFINITE NO 
monolithic suppressor, ranger barrel, no stock, large B mag, and granulated grip tape
nerfed a while ago, so no
Eyyy that's the build I use
agency suppressor, takedown barrel, bandit steady stock, salvo 44rnd fast mag, and serpent wrap
Question, for the fennec, what is the best build
And is a red dot required?
monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, steady stock or light stock, A mag, and operator foregrip
and optics aren't really necessary depending on the skin, but if we take the base model, ....yes
I have the layer of ice skin so is it needed?
lair of ice, I've heard that it's iron sight is a bit wonky so I'd use it just in case
In that case which red dot?
any would do, play with them all till you find one that you personally like
holographic or red-dot, doesn't matter
Alright, thank you so much
no probs 
I'll let you know if I need a build for another gun
I'll be ready 
Okay I need one last favor, please check if my M4 build is good and if not please give me a better one
monolithic suppressor, short barrel or marksman barrel, no stock, 50rnd mag, and granulated grip tape
and for uss9, first responder barrel is preferred because you don't wanna hurt your movement speed
So is my current M4 build good or trash?
kinda bad, cus no stock is better than light stock
It's okay I already changed the builds thank you very much
no problems
but in your opinion, is short barrel or marksman barrel better for aggressive playstyle
short barrel for aggressive gameplay
marksman for passive
Alright thanks
Best guns for grandmaster rank 😏
Ar: bp50, type 19
sniper: tundra, koshka
lmg: mg42, hades
smg: uss9, qxr, qq9, cx9
shotgun: r90, argus, krm (soon to be hs02045)
marksman: sks, type 63, mk2
no, if the nerfs or buffs with each update changes the gun, then change builds. Otherwise, definitely no
xpr is also decent
a sniper is enough, I'd say
ar: type 19 or bp50
smg: qxr, qq9, cx9, or uss9
Any of y’all got a decent for all these? Haven’t touched em inna while
Mainly MP builds
Looking forward on using them for next Seasons Rank
m13: tactical suppressor, heavy barrel, no stock, fmj, and large B mag
qq9: monolithic suppressor, recon tag long barrel, no stock, 10mm mag, and granulated grip tape
mg42: maxim silencer, 31M barrel, fmj, 13mm anti-material drums, and skeletal stock
oden: monolithic suppressor, short barrel, operator foregrip, light stock, and granulated grip tape
Ty my good friend
Secondary 
Np
I dunno about other people, but a good ol sniper+ar combo always does the job for me
dlq+ak117
dlq: owc light suppressor, mip light barrel, ranger stock, disable, maevwat mag (fast ads, ext mag, and sniper expert mods)
ak117: (Isleep gave you this already)
monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, light stock, A mag, and granulated grip tape
Best icr class for rushing?
Basically the recommended attachment
Looks clean 😮💨
🔥
Chicken nugget
Please anyone give me mythic gun
🤣
You can get one for free in season 1, if you like to grind
No begging
There are plenty of YouTube videos on it
Do you play cod ali3n ??
Ali3n how to get skin from 1 season
Does anyone help me in grinding mp rank
gwpo how did you get mythic gun
Wait til next season starts. It will be explained in game
It's more grindy, well more tedious but it's worth it trust me
@sudden nebula takedown barrel i guess
this looks better
one of these is better
on the one withput a scope compensator can be used instead of silencer aswell
owc light suppressor
mip light barrel
ykm light
thermite
sog
Yes yes yes
Best bp119 gunsmith
Man of war ?
more damage, can oneshot flak jacket users
love the skin but the shake is so bad
Best pp119 bizon
Kk
Does demo expert effect na45 dmg tho
^^
yes you NEED to use it
just 40% more damage
It's also useful when using thumper?
lc ammo
elb
skelly stock
mono
gran
It's coming back ! 
Been waiting years for it
any one got good builds for the MX9 i use it a lot i just started off
or maybe any good suggestions on what to use
yeah, thumper us honestly crazy good with it

lc ammo
silencer barrel
agile stock
firm grip tape
infil grip
np
Np
Ggs thanks anyways
how dose one get a rank or mythic level on their gun dose it come later on cuz i just started off a few days ago.?
it is because he gas a mythic skin for the weapon which you can level up to make it look even better
yes
i use thumper always on my na45 loadout, also have trip mine and sensor for maximum effectiveness lol

Ooooooh alriiight
flak jacket + gung ho is must for na45
Suppressor should be tactical and make the ammo large extended
with all due respect, mind give me explanation? im just being curious that's all
Suppressor to conceal your location when shooting, and large mag B for a much bigger mag size and better wallbangs
but about conceal, does 300 rtc mag performs the same too?
Yeah it does. But 60 bullets is more convenient than 40 that's why people now use 60rnds and tac. Supp. Tbh it's still fine if you wanna use rtc mag if you want
aaahhh aight, i got my answers then. thanks bro
Build for uss9 camo grind the ones I saw on #codm-gunsmith-builds have mixed reactions
- Monolithic suppressor
- First responder barrel
- 32.ae rnds
- Granulated grip/longshot/optic
- Forge tac ultralight stock
Thanks
Np
That’s because there’s many disagreements. For example I would recommend you not using forge tac. Instead use first responder and no-stock.
the build is pretty good but you gotta play it like a main AR and not like a flex one
main AR?
Flex ARs: Hybrid between SMG and AR playstyle
Passive ARs: Hybrid between LMG and AR playstyle
Main ARs: between the two above, just pure AR gameplay
aight.. thx
what upsides does no stock really give you for it to be worth making the flinch even worse
btw i actually use the exact same build
Any good ak117 builds for mp???
Tac Suppressor
Marksman barrel
No stock
40 round extended mag
Granulated grip tape
Speed, almost the same ads movement and a better chance to kill the other guy with around extra 30ms of fast ads time. If you think that doesn’t matter, try to add that ms to your network. Also, we are playing a game where usually the guy who shoot first is the one who get the kill. The downsides of no-stock are skill issue.
How to improve this
this argument seems off because youre not factoring like a sh*t ton of other things that goes on within a match
this is even if you land all shots whilst precisly aiming at the enemy without any misses shots lol
How to get free cp?
Here’s the neat part - you don’t.
Ok da
Any decent BR builds
Many things going on in a match with any build you have.
Skill issue
im a skill issue cause im not landing 100% accuracy in games?
dude the average accuracy for top lb players ins like 30 and under
No one lands 100% in games with any build
Gran & laser 5w instead of SoH
Thank you my good friend
i see what you mean but the extra flinch you get is just adding to the already bad flinch it has for a mid- to long-range gun
I know bro, but you’ll go from 1.0 to 1.1 with no-stock. It’s not a big difference in my opinion vs pros of using it, but, you know, I think it would depend on personal preferences. People can test the builds and see what’s best for them. Personally I have better results using this build than the other one.
i mean if you are already using toughness as green perk then 100% no stock is the better option but not sure about other perks
but yeah in the end it’ll be personal preference anyways


@last canopy how are you cooked with that Mac build in 2 shoots?
tactical suppressor, heavy barrel, no stock, fmj, and large B mag
yo gunsmith guy which build is better for dlq, owc sup, mip light, combat stock, stippled grip and extended mag a or owc sup, mip light, combat stock , tac laser and perk or a complete dif build
ak117: monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, no stock, 48rnd mag, and granulated grip tape
xpr: tactical suppressor, cqb barrel, no stock, stopping power mag, and tactical foregrip A
dlq aint got stippled grip, so use:
owc light suppressor, light barrel, combat stock, fmj, and A mag
is it a good idea to switch perk for tac laser?
not the best idea, but for 1v1s, sure
alr ty
Yeah am in
monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, skeleton stock, large caliber mag, and granulated grip tape
1v1 anyone
bp119???? you mean bp50?
maxim silencer, rapid barrel, removed stock, 60rnd drums or 30rnd mag, and stippled grip tape
definitely no
owc light suppressor, steady stock, sleight of hand, light trigger, and explosive mag
"class", build you mean
tactical suppressor, no stock, fmj perk, macromag, and granulated grip tape
@sudden nebula ffar: agency suppressor, takedown barrel, sas combat stock, salvo 44rnd fast mag, and serpent wrap
ffar has decent multipliers already, it really needs a range boost so use takedown barrel
@tough spruce arctic aint good, its like one of the worst snipers out there 😭
use your credits on the hdr diviner skin if that still exists
Any mods
Ogay
ogay is crazy 
u need thunder rounds
can swap stock for gran and soh for 5mw laser
Don’t got it unlocked unfortunately
Uss 9 build please?
Time to get longshots!
Mono suppressor
First responder barrel
Tac forge stock
.41 mag
Free slot (long shot, laser, red dot)
Red dot is a wasted slot on the USS9
It’s not if you don’t have mythic, duh.
Incorrect. Base irons are more than usable.
Okay, good luck struggling with it.
I have it Diamond 🤣
So that was an irrelevant comment, lmao
You can get diamond pretty much on anything, even on the shittiest gun, so it doesn’t mean anything.
I dont use red dot for uss 9
Facts
Btw how come not the carbine pro barrel?
Hello , Umm does anyone have a good outlaw build ?
You’re worsening mobility over a little increase in range.
Tactical suppressor
Memorial barrel
Combat stock
Stippled grip
9 rounds mag
Thank you very much , Have a good day :)
I'm not saying I have Diamond to gloat, lmao. I've never had an issue with the base irons. Any player worth their salt with say your build is bad if you waste a slot on a red dot.
Bruh, it doesn’t even affect on gun’s performance negatively, you’re not losing anything by using sight. If you’re good with base irons, oh well, congrats. Let me clap for you then.
I said it’s a free slot and people can use what’s better fits to their hearts content.
You're negatively impacting the weapon by wasting a slot. Like??? Putting a red dot on the USS9 is an objectively bad decision. The vast majority of knowledgeable players will back me on this.
Hey anyone there for MP rank ?
Also you can try this one to compare:
Mono suppressor
First responder barrel
No-Stock
.41 mag
Gran or Free Option
How come it will affect negatively? By not putting 10% range buff? By not getting nonexistent BSA buff? By not receiving a little hip fire spread boost?
I am knowledgeable and I do NOT back you
no stock?
i thought the strafe stoxk is better
@hoary flare doesn't back you either
I can say that regular iron sights are trash, not only in USS but in this case, yeah.
pluh?
Why?
imo movespeed and ads is fine
No stock is big no no for USS 9.
You have more agility / speed with no-stock. Best ads movement and a better chance to kill the other guy with around extra 20ms of fast ads time. If you think that doesn’t matter, try to add that ms to your network. Also, we are playing a game where usually the guy who shoot first is the one who get the kill. The downsides of no-stock are skill issue.
what would you rather use instead? you could use long shot but sacrificing 10%(2 meters) range in return for visibility sounds like a fair trade to me
Why?
Hit flinch increases (which is bad already) and BSA nuke.
tldr
It’s better to use tac forge stock.
shorten it
From 1 to 1.1, that’s irrelevant
seems relevant
Yeah.
i dont want no flinch debuff
It’s not, try the different with some buddy, you’ll not gonna feel the difference
you're*
sorry xd
You don’t have to use gran grip with tac forge, and using gran for USS 9 isn’t great choice honestly.
i see, ill swap it out for LS i guess
That’s a free spot to use the attachment you want… anyways, I can’t see why no-stock is so bad
Also, BSA nuke? No kidding, that SMG has an amazing BSA even with no attachments
You are worrying for 0.1 flinch losing focus in all the upsides that attachment gives you, starting for an amazing speed and ads movement, you can kill so fast any guy in a lot of different scenarios. But at the end, use it, not use it, is up to you. I just suggested another different option so people can compare
you have worse chance with no stock...because the hitflicnh is extremely highon that gun.. finch doesnt affect you till 15 meters..post that if you go up against real people who can actually shoot at you and aim, you will lose to guns like drh and asm10, cuz they have assault rifle bullet impact..paired with uss9's bad flinch, you'll experience your gun shooting up faster than fennec
its not 0.1 flinch...you should use wood stock instead...wood stock compared to no stock is a difference of 0.4 or 0.5 flinch
You’re pretty much losing in strafe speed and hit flinch.
Then suggest Woodstock, not forge, we are discussing the flinch
You can lose with or without that attachment then, because the base flinch is already high, so… if you have no-stock at least has movement enough to play around giving you the edge
If you want to use no stock, toughness is mandatory.
I don’t use that perk also.
no..with wood stock you have assualt rifle levels of flinch, enough that it doesnt affect your gunfights at mid range...running either ultra light stock or no stock on the other hand, will affect ur gunfights at mid range
no stock is certainly viable if you want to play uss like a fennec(which it can do pretty well)
I know, but we are comparing the difference in flinch of no-stock and forge
Beyond that, yeah, I agree with you, but I think you’ll find better AR options
toughness is mandatory(if you want to use the gun as a flex smg, not a cqb smg) on either stock
i need a lk24 br build
Oh boy, again, It’s 0.1 from no-stock to forge. If you think you need toughness, then you’ll need for both of them
no not really..even with wood stock, you have the best flex AR in the game..25 meters of 3 tap with decent ads time, 6.45m/s of sprint speed, and a strafe speed that doesnt hurt your own aim(due to it being a slow firing weapon) ..its basically the best flex AR in the game
thats exactly what i said...you'd need toughness on either of them
So if you don’t use toughness both builds are bad?
no, if you dont use toughness then both builds are good close quarter builds..not flex smg builds..in which case, no stock does the job of being a cqb smg better
but overall, if you want to maximise the effectiveness of 25 meters 3 tap range on the uss(27 with long shot) you have to use wood stock
I see no reason to use no stock, because the only positive thing about it that you’re running with it a little bit faster, but I don’t really need this benefit, since I use melee for that.
my opinion is wood stock>>no stock> ultralight...cuz woodstock is better for the gun overall..and no stock does everything ultralight does, but it also gives you better sprint and ads time
Try to add the 20 ms of difference to your network, lmk if you see the difference
Aim faster? It’s 241 vs 203 ms - difference in 38 ms, which is a few frames.
In what lobbies do you play bro?
That’s all the difference
I play in legendary lobbies.
The one who starts shooting usually is the one who gets the kill
thats a pretty significant difference for only 0.1 flinch..along with 6.44 vs 6.73m/s of sprint speed(which is faster than fennec's sprint speed)..and similar strafe speeds on both(no stock giving slihgtly more strafe speed) no stock is just better than ultralight...but wood stock is better than both
If you want spread transition to be more smooth, might use 1mw laser.
That’s said, you’ll face people with high reaction times, and usually, good network performance, 20-30 ms added for a no-high fire rate smg makes a lot of difference
Does anyone have type 19 gunsmith for rank?
Tactical suppressor
Long barrel
Merc foregrip
Fast reload mag
Accurate grip
Thank you bro ✨️
no
Yes
need lk24 br build

3 hours later_
Anyone got a good M13 build for MP Hardpoint matches ?
What?
any cx9 build?
aight thx dude
No worries!
but hey
i want to ask, can i switch laser for something else?
You can use granulated grip instead
aight

use serpent wrap
airborne has -6% mvmt con
now do you need 0.06 flinch
thats comparable to like flinch stacking w sks
mind u movement cons affect sprint n strafe too
0.3 is already insane for an AR
Look at the final dmg range
Yeah, now I got
XM4 seems balanced but far away of being broken, even with the shadow buff. Any thoughts? 💭
Its like grau556
Nothing that stands out
But everything is good
Maybe tier A or A+
@strong monolith Have you had a chance to try it?
Identical to type 19
Same damage, multipliers, mobility
I think type 19 has better range tho
I tested it and I can say it’s pretty similar, idk what to think, I only tried the base gun, the mythic looks great but I think type19 is the go to instead. Not so great start for the new year season releasing a clone 🥲
Yo any m13 rds build for br
Am i the only one that thinks gks>uss 9
yes
You ain’t wrong
GKS is somehow underrated
Not a lot of ppl use it nowadays
Anyone got a good M4 build that consists of the under barbell launcher ?
What mode
Launcher on m4 is garbage, dont use
M13 rds build for br
Thanks brother

Heavy long barrel, red dot, steady stock, tac laser and large mag B
grau is definitely not good in everything
grau is shite
Mac 10 build for br?
Hard words, true, but hard hahaha
i mean it is just facts
youre acting like its the striker of the ar's, its good it just gets outclasses
but i mean 60 round mag, low recoil, good bullet spread, at least enough to crossmap till 30m, fast reload for 60rnd mag, good ads speed
its a pretty good all rounded gun, i wouldnt say shite but ig yeah not the best when competing with other weapons
good bullet spread?
the average build has around 18-20 bullet spread last i checked, thats good enough to crossmap at 30m with an average ttk of maybe 300-500ms give or take some missed shots
i mean yeah it isn’t unusable but you could randomly puck an AR and 70% of the time be better off then with Grau
bsa is like 22 with 60r, archangel, mono, nostock and gran
It’s not even in the top10 ARs, so outclassed by guns like Type 19, BP, Oden, DrH and so on… also has bad iron sights (except the mythic)
bad ironsights... yeah im discluding you from this conversation lmao
you know that the nexus and archangel have good ironsights?
Agency supp, 6.1 barrel, 5mw laser, Stang 53 round mag and wild hip fire
was playing with archangel build you said and the other barrel rn and the average ttk from 30m was 250 to 300, again idk if thats shite cause i havnt played in a while but i wouldnt say its shite lol
thing is that it doesn’t really shine in any category
i would say low recoul but the uss is broken rn 💔
it does everything good-ish but there isn’t a use for it where it doesn’t get beaten by another AR
or is even in the top 3
recoil is a skill thing tbh

Ok MOD lmao
idk how thats me being a mini mod but ok
global update when?
Jan 15 hopefully we get it earlier like the last time
Need to grind out the new XM4
Icl I love grau
Dog damage and mid bsa
But that just means I need to hit all my shots and I'm good
with that logic anything good lmao
Much much easier with a gun that has no recoil
theres a huge list with that and grau not on
Can someone tag me on mythic grau and legendary switchblade gunsmith, been using the recommended attachment but I feel like there's something better. Thanks in advance
Somebody forgot to use a 5th attachment 
Not that it would make the build good but yeah..

grau: monolithic suppressor, nexus barrel, no stock, 50rnd mag, and cronen sniper elite rear grip
sucksblade: monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, light stock, A mag, and granulated grip tape
underbarrel launcher sucks
monolithic suppressor, short barrel, no stock, 50rnd mag, and granulated grip tape
ak47: monolithic suppressor, ranger barrel, no stock, large B mag, and granulated grip tape (why use sights on a clean iron sight like ak47's?? Don't do that.)
type 63: silencer, strike team barrel, duster pad stock, bruiser foregrip, and airborne elastic wrap
no use this
cx-38S barrel, cx-FR stock, 50rnd drums, sleight of hand, and optic or ace rear grip
tactical suppressor, heavy long barrel, no stock, fmj, and large B mag
north-industry suppressor, accurate barrel or merc foregrip, agile stock, fast reload mag, and polymer grip tape
@strong monolith
Marksman barrel
Optic
Strike stock
50r mag
Tac laser
Mods: Precise, Long range, Ext mag
@bold lark
tundra: tactical suppressor, tiger team barrel, fmj, 7rnd mag, and serpent wrap (you need a mag attachment and using a visible laser on a sniper is bad. Also, tiger team barrel needs to used with fmj to maximize wallpen.)
@oak gulch
renneti: tactical suppressor, compact barrel, tactical laser, sleight of hand, and handmade rear grip
@timid verge what makes qq9 meta is the 10mm mag so use that
monolithic suppressor, recon tag long barrel, no stock, 10mm mag, and granulated grip tape
Thank you
@minor flare suppressor doesn't suppress the gun
its just for muzzle flash
agency supp is the only true suppressor on xm4
They added the XM4?
Yup
I can make any gun no recoil but it need skills 🗿
best weapon on each category?
Depends on your playstyle
I don't even use this gun 💁🏼
yeah i was experimenting with the different loadouts and eventually i found that this one is the best
i had seen a youtuber with that build that i had put on the qq9 so i was js checking how it was
Hey guys please help with load out for KILO 141 DEMON SONG
Mono suppressor
Marksman barrel
No stock
Granulated grip tape
Large extended mag

what do you guys think? difference is between grip (second pic) and scope (first pic). like this gun is so good to use. took some inspiration from @wraith badger
I feel the same way
Perfect imo
I like it
Is the LAG53 Better as semi or full?
Auto
Semi makes the weapon much harder to use for no significant benefit
🚮
Provide your build 
and explain what makes it good
Your scope is an overkill
Built for longer range
And I should have said that scope isn’t necessarily if you have good aim
Which I don’t
You don't need that much range boost or that much recoil control. You need less flinch in br as well. That fg was an overkill too. LAG isn't bad in terms of recoil
3x for br lmao
Enemy sniper: interesting
I used that build in Alcatraz and it was pretty good
considering ppl rarely use snipers on alc already
But for plain br i ain't using that
Yeah idk if it’s good in normal br
Mono
Long shot
Optic
AA laser
Close quarters stock
does cx9 performs better in br with burst mag?
Yes
@strong monolith mind if you give me a build for it?
Its tied with TEC9 burst for fastest TTK in BR except CX has 3 times the range
Downside is that it heavily relies on Ext mag mods
aight
12r mag
5mW
Flash Guard
SoH
CX-38
Mods: Long range, Hipfire, Ext mag
aightt
@strong monolith anything that needs to be changed? the handling is kinda sluggish when i used this
You can swap gran for rubberised actually
The BSA is so good that you can sacrifice a little bit for even less recoil
The rest is good
Long, Precise, Ext
Lw tundra gunsmith for mp and br please
Aaah i'll give you mine but i can't upload it dawg:/
just type it out bro
Oh yeah lol lemme do that:P
Its became an isteant kill
dayummm, immediately gotta use that gun for surr
Cool skin, w camo. Shinyyyy
Yes sir

What 
The skin looks great to me
Im so tired of it i started using dia default as br ground loot 😭
Yo here's your build man, btw i use this one for long and mid ranges lol
Barrel -28.2" tiger team
Perk- sleight of hand
Laser - OWC
Ammo - Salvo 9
Grip - Rustle grip tape
Wrong build @red blaze
tactical suppressor, tiger team barrel, fmj, 7rnd mag, and serpent wrap
But it looks so good with diamond imho
Laser on snipers is not ideal
Tundra (BR):
Tiger team barrel, 7rnd mag, Airborne elastic wrap, Striker foregrip, and Disable perk (Fast ads, Sniper Expert, and Ext mag mods)

PERFECT 
Not the worse
Don't decrease mobility too much
monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, no stock, large B mag, and granulated grip tape
And me 🤝
Ar: bp50, type 19
Sniper: tundra, koshka
Lmg: pkm, hades, mg42
Smg: qq9, qxr, cx9, and uss9
Shotgun: r90, argus, krm (soon to be hs02045)
Marksman: sks, type 63
@timid verge
uss9: monolithic suppressor, first responder barrel, ultralight stock, AE 32rnd mag, and long shot perk
Does anyone have a good lk24 build?
tactical suppressor, marksman barrel, no stock, 50rnd mag, and granulate grip tape
@elder spruce almost there
suppressors are necessary so use owc light suppressor instead of fmj on locus
for tundra, the build is perfect
thanks
no problems 
all thx to you bro heheh
Thanks
no probs
if you need an optic, change granulated grip tape for it, tho I don't recommend using an optic anyways
Aye yo💀
(no homo)*
i am just a girl in the world 
E girl
yes
you are not alone
have u tried my build?
yes I used to use that when uss9 just came out
bro that literally defeats the purpose of an smg
uss9's niche is being sort-of passive
why use no stock that decreases bsa
even with ultralight stock attached, uss9 has an ads time of 241ms, that's more than sufficient for aggro/flex/passive gameplay
not really, no
Ads anim just feels slow, idk
ok yeah it does feel kinda slow in-game...
240ms feels like 300ms
I can't live with no stock on uzi
It's my personal preference, don't judge me
(judgement)
How do I obtain one of the different weapons in the "Swords and Stones" part of the game?
—> Loadout
Which part of the loadout?
🤨
Share some ancient Zaza as well, cus it seems you're full of it
Anyone got a good tundra loadout
Tactical suppressor
Tiger team/hammer forged barrel
7rnd mag
Serpent/airborne elastic wrap
Fmj
Ty
Np
Bp50build?





