codm-gunsmith-help

[formal river]

It’s actually good if you can use it right (I can’t lol)

[soft root]

find a worse sniper

[formal river]

Bolt or semi?

[soft root]

sniper in general

[native canopy]

Which is best 1st or second

I don’t play passive so not needed

If 2nd is both passive and agro then that

[bright cloud]

2nd tbh

[bright cloud]

Ranger barrel mono gran no stock 25 round otm

[soft root]

def not

[formal river]

Then idk

[narrow glen]

@formal river, 46 Server Rank

[soft root]

na45

🤓

[formal river]

W

[narrow glen]

[unreal gale]

I got a new build and it lowkey slaps

gri about to get mad that I'm not using mono

the bsa and ads speed is very noticeable though

goes from you can beam sometimes to you can beam most times

[bright cloud]

Wow you really going cygnoux route

With that light stock

(Still mono>)

[native canopy]

i want to use it but its a new account,and the no attachtment drh sucks

like there is times where if i did have i could've killed them

and global chat goes crazy when they see my pfp

i typed a hi and it took 5 seconds for 15 to add me

[unreal gale]

lol that famous huh

oh sheesh tyrece is rank 55 rn

matched him in solo queues lol

[unreal gale]

I saw a ton of people using it in ranked so I gave it a try

it's pretty good haha

[bright cloud]

Cygnozx puts light szock on everythiiing

[unreal gale]

question though, would you rather hit 80% of your shots and kill in 4 hits or 100% of your shots and kill in 5

[bright cloud]

Like almost every damn ar he has light stock

[bright cloud]

First of all that would be same ttk second of all.....it aint as bad as you represent it

[unreal gale]

no this is a pure hypothetical

[bright cloud]

@unreal gale You want me to drop an actual rough estimate of hitrate?

[unreal gale]

it really depends on the map and the players and the positioning

so you can't really estimate it

I do definitely feel that more shots are connecting when I use tac suppressor though

it's so much more consistent than mono

[bright cloud]

[unreal gale]

mono is a lil hit or miss for me

you either beam or you choke and don't lock on

[bright cloud]

(Its extremely small diff)

But okay

[modest field]

How do I get the legendary role

[bright cloud]

,,Bluntness"

Kekw

[unreal gale]

uhh, I mean both feel sharp

[bright cloud]

Talk

[unreal gale]

not SUPER sharp like type19

[bright cloud]

Its a joke on your feel stuff

[unreal gale]

tac does feel noticeably sharper than mono :D

[modest field]

Well the top 5000 role they give you for being top 5000

[unreal gale]

contact mods

dm modmail

but just saying, most top 5k regulars don't both getting the role after like 3 seasons lol

[modest field]

Oh true

[modest field]

What do you mean

[native canopy]

thats nothing

[unreal gale]

you have to apply for the role every season

[native canopy]

i know a friend that got 1500 in a day

[modest field]

Oh I see

[unreal gale]

and most people just don't bother applying

[native canopy]

let me see if i can find that ss

[unreal gale]

everyone who knows knows lol

don't exactly need to "prove yourself" every season

[modest field]

And like am I forever gonna be playing with bots

[unreal gale]

wdym

[modest field]

There are so many bots on the game

[unreal gale]

if you play pubs or low ranks sure

[modest field]

Even in grand master lobbies there were bot matches

[unreal gale]

you get maybe 1 bot game max per day once you hit legendary

[modest field]

Oh that makes sense

[unreal gale]

are you top 5k?

[modest field]

I mean I hope I don’t get too much bot games

Yes

[unreal gale]

oh cool

[modest field]

Wait too 5k is just everyone legendary right

[unreal gale]

you shouldn't be getting any bot games then

no....

you're literally top 5k on the leaderboards

[modest field]

Or is there legendary then you can compete for top 5k

[unreal gale]

which is like 13.5k pts rn

[native canopy]

well i was completly wrong,but he did get 1.3k in 3 days

[modest field]

Oh makes sense

[unreal gale]

that's crazy

[modest field]

I thought once you hit legendary everyone in legendary is top 5k

[unreal gale]

no, top 5k literally means top 5k

[native canopy]

haha imagine

[modest field]

I’m new to the game 😭

[native canopy]

that top 5k badge would be useless

[unreal gale]

like you're top 5000 golbal

which isn't exactly a super great feat considering how many face palm worthy top 5ks there are out there

[modest field]

Oh well Atleast I have something more to grind for

[unreal gale]

if you're below 12k rn, I wouldn't bother

just play because fun lol

[modest field]

Seeing numbers go up is the only way I have fun

I mean I hit 8k in 4 days

8k I’m another 4 days ez

[native canopy]

from 0?

[unreal gale]

I mean once you rank enough, you'll see that no one gives a rip about your rank unless you're top 200

[native canopy]

is not so easy tho

[unreal gale]

how good you are as a player is literally just how good you are

[native canopy]

even top players lose

unless your top 10

those guys barely lose

[unreal gale]

and you soon get to match all the top players in your region. you get recognized by your name, not by your rank

[native canopy]

is the top 1 currently sa?

is she top 1 yet?

[unreal gale]

solo queued tyrece and beat him :D

rank 1 is the AX person

[native canopy]

why do top players not like to spend time on hp

[unreal gale]

do also note that most top lb players are account sharers

[native canopy]

yeah

[unreal gale]

it depends. if it's a scrim they will

[native canopy]

there was this account being shared

top 1 in 4 guns

[unreal gale]

otherwise map control >

[native canopy]

global

[unreal gale]

probably a br main

[native canopy]

it was both

top 5k in mp and top 5k in br

[unreal gale]

if you think about it, a player can either hold map control or obj. if you're super good, you'd want to hold map control and let some randoms on your team obj

[native canopy]

but luckily i didn't face them their middle eastern

[native canopy]

i would rather do obj because most of the time those randoms don't stay on obj

[unreal gale]

I wouldn't say so, most people sit in the point if you set it up correctly

usually 1-2 people get like 1:00+

[native canopy]

maybe in your region

in my region they don''t do anything

[unreal gale]

I mean it's a process of elimination

you're either good and you slay out and you rank high

or you're not so good but you obj and you rank high

otherwise you just lose

and once you accumulate enough mmr, you shouldn't be stacking with people who just lose, most of the time at least

but it does also depend on the map

[native canopy]

idk hp isn't really my thing

[unreal gale]

hp is all I play :D

[native canopy]

i like tdm and fl more

but i lose because of ass teammates

[unreal gale]

it's so much more campy imo

and yeah, literally just comparing who has the dumber teammates

[native canopy]

thats what i do :D

let me see if i can find the other ss of todays game

[unreal gale]

in tdm 20+ kills is a good game

hp you can frequently get 40 kills

it's just more fun to get more kills yk xD

kinda like why hp shipment is pretty fun

[native canopy]

not my best game but

[native canopy]

not by me

im always equal and almost equal kd in hp or dom

if its a good game im positive but not alot

[unreal gale]

hp and dom is all about power positions

if you hold power positions, your kd skyrockets and you dominate map control

[native canopy]

but sometimes i do get games like this

[unreal gale]

all depends on the lobby really

[native canopy]

the only mode i barely play is snd

not even in pubs i play it

sometimes clan wars but yeah thats it

[sweet flower]

yeah xpr good

[vapid swan]

Returning player here… just wondering where can I find a LEGIT gun tier list

[sweet flower]

Ultra aggro smg-mx9/ots9/fennec/cx9
Aggro smg(potential)-qq9 10mm/qxr eb
Flex smgs-cordite/pdw/qxr non eb
Burst smgs-cx9/tec9
Aggro ars-ffar/groza
Aggro burst-maddox echo fire/asm10 branson
Aggro flex ars-type 19/em2
Flex ars-Hvk
Passive flex ars-krig 6/ak47/drh
Passive ars-thermite mow/kn44/m16 wildfire
Passive burst-swordfish
Flex dmrs-oden
Passive dmr-as val
Ultra passive dmr-sks

Hipfire shotgun-krm
Hipfire and ads shotguns-by15 slugs/r9-0
Semi automatoc shotgun-striker
Marksman-argus(its technicly a shotgun but ut plays as marksman)
Aggro sniper-koshka
Flex sniper-tundra
Passive sniper-hdr
Semi automatoc sniper passive-rytec
Semi automatic sniper flex-xpr

Ultra aggro lmg-hades crossbar
Aggro lmg-Type 19
Flex lmg-mg42
Passive lmg-ul736
Ultra passive lmg-pkm
by super jod

meta list not tier list

[vapid swan]

Thank you @sweet flower

[narrow glen]

@vapid swan, 11 Server Rank

[dusty heart]

I don't see grau

tier lists already sucks

No m13

Kn listed as passive instead of flex

[sweet flower]

grau isnt good its just ease to use

[dusty heart]

not having this convo again

[sweet flower]

just because a gun is hard doesnt mean its bad

vice versa

[dusty heart]

No shit, but if its easy to use that makes it good

[sweet flower]

no it just makes it easier to exploit

[dusty heart]

easy to use with decent ttk

[sweet flower]

and its a meta tierlist meaning the best guns, not the guns you would do best with witg

m13 is good but not meta

[dusty heart]

why is hso not on there?

[sweet flower]

cuz other shotguns better

its good but has big downsides

by slugs jus beat its

[bright cloud]

Yes its obvious grau sucks by now

[bright cloud]

Credit where

[sweet flower]

there edited it

hehehah

[bright cloud]

How long of a moot do you want in familia server for copyriggt infringement

[unreal gale]

[dusty heart]

Just for you

[bright cloud]

Ill let you decide your own fate

[sweet flower]

plz

there I edited it

[bright cloud]

How long

[sweet flower]

plz dont ban me

[unreal gale]

I think it's a good option if you're f2p

[sweet flower]

no

[bright cloud]

Nuh uh too late

[unreal gale]

the mythic (and frankly all the skins) for it sucks

[sweet flower]

ill give u my first son plz dont do it

[bright cloud]

Yes grau is way too blunt

[unreal gale]

grau is pretty sharp actually

similar to LK

[bright cloud]

😭

[dusty heart]

they can't hit two chest/arm shots to make it 4stk in second range

massive skill issue

[bright cloud]

,,Cant"

[sweet flower]

its just chest

[bright cloud]

HAHAHAHA

[dusty heart]

upper arms

[bright cloud]

And upper arm

But like its upper arm makes little differennce

[sweet flower]

upper arms is harder then chestb y a lot

[unreal gale]

I should make a "feel" based tierlist

[bright cloud]

Yesss would help me a lot kekw

[unreal gale]

though it's probably rack up a lot of hate

[sweet flower]

dlq and grau on top

[dusty heart]

everyone is always headglitching, therefore grau is better

[bright cloud]

@unreal gale Sorry i never believed in grau. I forgor i just have to hit 2 chest shots mb

[bright cloud]

From me especialy kekw

[unreal gale]

I mean the gun feels good

[sweet flower]

any no recoil gun feels good

[unreal gale]

feels good = you can hit your shots where you want to hit them

[bright cloud]

Ik thats only reason why its used alongside eou

[unreal gale]

and yeah, everyone be headglitching

[bright cloud]

😭

[bright cloud]

(Than what btw)

[unreal gale]

so sharp + good head multiplier = great gun

hvk is too blunt

[bright cloud]

God

[sweet flower]

hvk insnt blunt

[unreal gale]

drh pre nerf was perfect

[bright cloud]

You scared me for a second

[unreal gale]

now it's just aight

[dim lily]

Hi

[bright cloud]

Hi

[unreal gale]

it is. compared to drh and the 4 tappers

hvk is similar to ak47, em2 and the lot

[bright cloud]

One day

[sweet flower]

idk it seems clean to me

[dusty heart]

Don't think you can compare it to the 4 tappers

[dim lily]

Ehsan.kiral_1

[bright cloud]

Ill just do recoil measurements and include aim shake

And visual recoil and everything

[dim lily]

Geym

[sweet flower]

also how is ur sheet with like everything comign along super gri

[unreal gale]

do you get what I mean by the blunt <--> sharp scale for guns?

type19 is super sharp

[dusty heart]

feel?

[unreal gale]

yeah

[bright cloud]

And then i can finally get idea about your feel shctik @unreal gale

[dusty heart]

handling

[bright cloud]

Me do more important stuff fanta busy

[unreal gale]

mow has great bsa, but it feels blunt

[bright cloud]

Ill have to input grau once in bsa hr

4 shot is def less than 50%

[unreal gale]

and how blunt/sharp the gun is decides the kinda box you aim with

[bright cloud]

[unreal gale]

smgs like pdw are super blunt, which feel great close-mid range

[bright cloud]

Wait now that is new

The definition is expanding

[unreal gale]

a super sharp gun feels bad close range

[dusty heart]

I think I got lost

oh

[unreal gale]

dlq mythic is very sharp, whereas a tac scope is more blunt. tac scope feels better close range (not just the zoom)

[dusty heart]

Keep writing the bible of codm

[bright cloud]

When talking ab guns with sunny that is common

[dusty heart]

He mains only ak117 and grau

[unreal gale]

me?

[dusty heart]

zzz

[bright cloud]

Now we bringing uo snipers too

[dusty heart]

Ak117 is not on your list as well

[bright cloud]

😔

[bright cloud]

It isnt?

[unreal gale]

ak117 recoil lowkey throws me off

after 10 bullets it kinda flies

[bright cloud]

Fuck random recoil

[dusty heart]

47 is

[unreal gale]

maybe it's just my skin

[bright cloud]

All my homies hate ransom recoil

[dusty heart]

mythic or nah?

[bright cloud]

Og i forgot to put peacekeepr and ak117 then

[unreal gale]

I don't have mythic on my current main. mythic feels great though

nice and sharp

oh that's the thing, skins big time affect how sharp the gun feels

[dusty heart]

not all

[bright cloud]

@unreal gale You use standard 117 build or?

[unreal gale]

I do

[dusty heart]

recoil stack

oh, its not that ranger fg build

[unreal gale]

mono, extended, no stock, 40 mag, gran

[bright cloud]

If recoil way too gae you can use ak117s special attachment

[unreal gale]

which one?

[bright cloud]

Yeah yeah

[bright cloud]

Tac fg b

[unreal gale]

let me see

[bright cloud]

Thats ak117s sig attachment

Well it isnt called a sig attachment

But its ak117s sig attachment

[dusty heart]

-30% horizontal recoil?

[bright cloud]

Ye

[unreal gale]

oh yo

[sweet flower]

whats downsides?

[unreal gale]

that actually looks good

[dusty heart]

5% strafe

[unreal gale]

8% ads time is a rip though

[bright cloud]

Mobility

[bright cloud]

Especialy since its....you know ak117

[sweet flower]

ok

[dusty heart]

You preaim

[unreal gale]

5% bsa, 13% horizontal for 8% ads time, 6% strafe

[unreal gale]

sure, but the gun already has a super slow ads time for an AR

closer to lmg time

[sweet flower]

what do u replace for tac fg b?

[sweet flower]

yeah 283

without laser

[dusty heart]

ok just build max recoil stack with disable

[bright cloud]

Aka pimples-0 black dots-0 movility and random recoil-0

[dusty heart]

problem solved

[bright cloud]

Minor trolling

[dusty heart]

I used that build

[dusty heart]

effective range 15 m

[unreal gale]

I have these 4 skins, and the rook one

[dusty heart]

Dazzling rhythm is good

[bright cloud]

Do you still use pkmk2 btw

[dusty heart]

used in comp

[unreal gale]

feels blunt though

[unreal gale]

well I have it in one of my slots

I don't use it in ranked if that's what you mean

[dusty heart]

pkmk2 with 90% flinch tape

[unreal gale]

that's my build

[dusty heart]

oh its worser

[sweet flower]

nice

[unreal gale]

the recoil feels like literal crap without FA

and pk already has good strafe so the -16 is okay

[dusty heart]

Fair enough

[sweet flower]

I would rather do the one that has no downsides tbh

thats only -30% horizontal no downside

[unreal gale]

that one is decent too, but fa feels better

[sweet flower]

yeah but big downside

[unreal gale]

it's -16% strafe

which is okay, since pk is super fast

you also get vertical recoil from fa

[dusty heart]

I wouldn't try to beam with pk

[unreal gale]

but hey, you definitely can with my build

[sweet flower]

yeah but thats pk one of biggest strength

[unreal gale]

you can beam until like 40m

[bright cloud]

Now thats interesting

[unreal gale]

then the gun's recoil craps out

[unreal gale]

I mean no, literally just standard build + recoil

[sweet flower]

thats one big change tbh

[unreal gale]

well it makes the gun feel decent

that's the change xD

otherwise I kid you not, I literally struggle to land all the first 5 shots on a 20m target

this one you can beam till 40m

beam as in consistently hit all your shots

[dusty heart]

do you still run that dumb ranger fg switch build

[unreal gale]

I mean I don't use switch at all anymore

but I think I'd still run it

[dusty heart]

have u tried cbr after the buff?

[sweet flower]

the buff was only to ads movement wasnt it

[dusty heart]

Thats what was nerfed before in the first place

[unreal gale]

yeah. I got that epic skin from the sword draw, yk the one that has the rpd orbit ironsights

felt like crap.

[unreal gale]

this is my new switchblade

[sweet flower]

its just the grau of smgs

[dusty heart]

It still isnt the same as prime cbr4

[unreal gale]

yeah

[sweet flower]

easy to use but meh

[unreal gale]

but also, prime cbr is bad by current standards

[sweet flower]

just use qxr eb

[unreal gale]

it's a hvk that 4-5 shots instead of 3-4 shots

[sweet flower]

nah prime cbr is good, but after the initial nerf its bad people kept riding it for long time after its gone

[unreal gale]

modern drh is definitely better

even modern pdw is better

[sweet flower]

def

[bright cloud]

Owc foregrip? What does that do again

[sweet flower]

not comporable

[unreal gale]

recoil. mostly lateral

[sweet flower]

recoil for strafe

[bright cloud]

Id use the ither recoil fg

[unreal gale]

basically fa grip but for pdw

[unreal gale]

other one is vertical only

[bright cloud]

Sooo thats op fg with lateral?

[unreal gale]

yeah.

[bright cloud]

I hate

[unreal gale]

16% lateral too

makes the pdw feel like cbr

[bright cloud]

How old guns have wierd fgs

[unreal gale]

which is great. my pdw build literally feels like pre nerf cbr but better

and since pdw has better bsa and range and those stats, it feels better than my prime cbr build

[dusty heart]

rip pre nerf pdw

they nerfed it a season after buffing, literally had 0 recoil

[unreal gale]

yeah

I mean hey, with that foregrip the gun still has no recoil :D

okay not "no" recoil but it's pretty comparable to cbr

but trust, this is the only thing you need.... ever....

until it gets nerfed.

[dusty heart]

I run the same build I think

[unreal gale]

really?

do you have the skin? the skin is pretty important xD

[dusty heart]

I use the ranked skin

[unreal gale]

oh

I don't like that one but ig

[dusty heart]

might get blood rose draw tho, like the pink themed operator

[unreal gale]

yeah I really like her too

[unreal gale]

I strongly recommend that draw

definitely best draw in the game rn imo

[dusty heart]

Okay overexaggerated

[unreal gale]

like easily. great gun + great operator + cheap

literally can't beat that

qq9 mythic draw is pretty good too since it has all the nice looking epics

but oden qq9 > mythic qq9

[hoary flare]

digi sights

[unreal gale]

check out my drh collection btw

[bright cloud]

Which reminds me. Did yiu try bk?

[sweet flower]

mono wheree

[bright cloud]

He hates mono

[unreal gale]

yeah

[bright cloud]

And?

[hoary flare]

wait why FAF tho

[unreal gale]

it was aight. similar to a kilo

[bright cloud]

Its kilo hvk hybrid

[unreal gale]

makes the gun not feel like crap

[bright cloud]

So you arent far off

[bright cloud]

If i used it it would feel much more crap than base

[unreal gale]

I agree with that. kilo damage with hvk feel

[sweet flower]

why bru

[hoary flare]

you arent good with recoil?

[hoary flare]

a monophobe?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[hoary flare]

darn

[unreal gale]

wait huh?

I used mono until today

[bright cloud]

Other way around actually lmao

[sweet flower]

monophobes I see

[bright cloud]

You just do t wanna admit it😔

[unreal gale]

dude I use mono on like 80% of my guns

[dusty heart]

Tac suppressor supremacy

[bright cloud]

I know im joking

[dusty heart]

Only on lmgs tho

[sweet flower]

good dont be a monophobe

[unreal gale]

I do like tac marksman though

[sweet flower]

stfu

[unreal gale]

much better recoil and bsa

[sweet flower]

bru

[dusty heart]

Idiot

[unreal gale]

definitely tac marksman on cbr

[sweet flower]

me with my mono marksmen

on drh

[unreal gale]

pre nerf at least. post nerf you just gotta stack everything

[unreal gale]

slow

[sweet flower]

me passive

[unreal gale]

drh already beams though

you literally don't need to stack recoil like that

[sweet flower]

more range the merrior

[unreal gale]

tac suppressor has 30m

mono has like 36

you don't need anymore than that

[sweet flower]

more the better

nothing as too much range

[unreal gale]

there is, when it comes at the cost of ads time

ability to spam pre aim > useless range

[sweet flower]

doesmt matter for passive playstyle

[unreal gale]

I play passive. there's a difference between passive and camp + hardscope

[sweet flower]

true

idk I dont have a problem with the ads time

[unreal gale]

try dropping mono

if you're running marksman, run tac

[sweet flower]

n o

[unreal gale]

or drop marksman. drop the no stock for some other stock if you want to stack recoil

[sweet flower]

290 ads time

similiar to ak117

[hoary flare]

i use ex mono for ak

117

[sweet flower]

same

[formal river]

@hoary flare hold up

U got a little point there

[shadow hound]

Krig irons is fine

[idle cipher]

I don’t mind it

[unreal gale]

yall crazy

like actually.

hard to picture tracking anyone beyond like 20m with that ironsight

literally center, then ads and pray the target doesn't move too much

[hoary flare]

fr

[hoary flare]

yes

[rich arch]

Damn I still remember when it was meta lol

[sweet flower]

that click baiter

[narrow glen]

@sweet flower, 34 Server Rank

[rich arch]

[sweet flower]

its 100% not true

[rich arch]

His most used clickbait is ghost plasma

[stray rapids]

Accu🗣️🗣️

[idle cipher]

How’s the load out?

[unreal gale]

sheesh, were you using an AR?

also you kinda destroyed that lobby lol

[unreal gale]

oh you got the dlq

what do you think about the mythic?

[stray rapids]

It's the daily bot lobby haha

Lk24

I just sat watching the spawn

[idle cipher]

Honestly, I had low expectations for it. I mostly finished the draw just for the trophy system leggy skin. But now I’m actually kinda liking this more then tundra

I’m getting movement down slowly but surely. Just got mvp in a pub an ranked with it so I feel good so far

[rich arch]

As a player who plays a lot with snipers (but also other guns too) it's one of the best mythics I've ever seen. Also one of the most good-looking ones

[formal river]

Fr

[idle cipher]

That’s why it’s gonna be the next mythic I max

[rich arch]

[idle cipher]

Hey I have a super quick question for ya

[native canopy]

In mp the mythic skin is ass for dlq

In br is a different story

[idle cipher]

I don’t know why but maybe it’s bc I haven’t fully adjusted to the skin yet, but the zealot felt better tbh

[native canopy]

Yeah zealot is much better

[idle cipher]

I just wish I could diamond the siren razor

[ruby iris]

F2000 less goo

[hoary flare]

wait F2000 coming?

[ruby iris]

Ye

[hoary flare]

YOOOO

[quiet trellis]

What even is that?

[hoary flare]

HOLY SHIT

[hoary flare]

cool gun

bullpupped rifle made by fn

[quiet trellis]

Oh they need to add the kar98k

Wait nvm im dumb

[hoary flare]

Kilobolt

[hoary flare]

is it gonna be called BP50 tho

[quiet trellis]

Bp50 from mw3

[ruby iris]

Ye

[hoary flare]

D:

[ruby iris]

Or vg's f2000

[hoary flare]

at least Fn F2K

[ruby iris]

Idk

[hoary flare]

isnt VG a Ww2 game

[quiet trellis]

That’s the BP50 from mw3

[ruby iris]

Check leakers on duty

[hoary flare]

no, f2000 from og mw

[ruby iris]

Yes, and it has an f2000

For some reason

[quiet trellis]

That gun is in mw3

It’s called the BP50

[hoary flare]

weird

[hoary flare]

fake name

makes it sound like some battlepass

[ruby iris]

Bp50 has weird holes in it's chassis

[quiet trellis]

It’s in mw3 but not from it

[hoary flare]

does the BP50 bullets come out from the front

[quiet trellis]

I miss old warzone

[hoary flare]

or from the side

[ruby iris]

Looks like the f2000

[hoary flare]

it better eject cartridges from the front

[ruby iris]

And not the bp50

[quiet trellis]

Looks like both to me

[rich arch]

The recoil looks brutal

[quiet trellis]

I try to find clan members for my clan but no luck

[ocean narwhal]

test server out?

wtf that looks so autistic

why is the gun special

[ruby iris]

yuh

[ruby iris]

cracked mobility from the test server

[ocean narwhal]

u got stats?

[ocean narwhal]

does it have ammo conversion

bullet impact 1(0.6) the hell

bro thinks he is bsa

[ruby iris]

seems like so

[bright cloud]

Tf is tgatt

I just noticed it

[rich arch]

@bright cloud who could have thought we would be getting an MW III weapon so early

[bright cloud]

It isnt

Its vg version from what i heard

[rich arch]

Different?

[ocean narwhal]

we have taper for bi now

[bright cloud]

@ruby iris @ocean narwhal BRO BASE SPRINT IS FASTER THAN PISTOLS

[rich arch]

Interesting

[bright cloud]

Hahahahahah

[ruby iris]

ye ik

[ocean narwhal]

oh wtf

[bright cloud]

Its probably bug or smth

[ruby iris]

like i said

cracked mobility

[bright cloud]

And base reload speed lmao

[rich arch]

These leaks are indeed good

Finally something to be excited for

And we're not even close to the anniversary leaks

[hoary flare]

0.91 reload time is wild

[ruby iris]

.

[blazing iris]

Anyone with account of 450$ budget here?

[young shale]

Sqitching to your pistol is faster than reloading
The new gun: are u sure bout that

[rich arch]

?

@bright cloud your thoughts on cordite?
How's this build: mono, light barrel, light stock, granulated, 60r mag

[bright cloud]

Meta

[rich arch]

Perfecto

[remote silo]

@real crescent he have, and he would gladly to discuss with you about it

You should dm him

[rich arch]

He has asked about this before I think he's trying to switch accounts or something

Typically scamming

[real crescent]

[hoary flare]

80 tound tbh

[rich arch]

Thanks

[hoary flare]

yeah its 20 more bullets

[rich arch]

When will you become a well-known guy?

[hoary flare]

hopefully never

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

[glass crag]

Hello

[hoary flare]

lel

[rich arch]

Lol

[real crescent]

Hi

Lol

[rich arch]

[remote silo]

Slide me xp

[real crescent]

Okay

[rich arch]

@bright cloud trying to find the best sniper that one taps full body (any body part):

1. Rytec w Explosive ammo
2. HDR
3. ZRG anti vehicle

Which one wins?

[bright cloud]

Hdr

[rich arch]

Nice 👍

[ocean narwhal]

hdr mono for max range

✅✅✅✅

[stuck pasture]

rytec and zrg are only 'good' in br

*in terms of explosive and anti vehicle

[formal river]

HDR on top for br

[stuck pasture]

yeah real

only downside is firerate and ads if you build it steady

[tawny walrus]

To be honest, I think Tundra is the best sniper in the game.

Both - MP and BR.

[ruby iris]

Zrg is good in mp too

Its pretty fast

[stuck pasture]

.

[ruby iris]

Rytec is used in competitive chinese scene

Explosive rytec with 3x

[stuck pasture]

eh ok just never seen one

[ruby iris]

You just lock down lanes

Nothing can pass

[rich arch]

you are forced to play extremely passive
it has lmg like ads time even if you focus to build it in terms of mobility

and that insane bolt time will give the enemies enough time to react

[ruby iris]

It's faster than dlq

[rich arch]

bro clearly don‘t build the gun before

[rich arch]

they all changed to lw3 now

nothing but LW3

[rich arch]

abused in every aspect

[ruby iris]

10ms faster than dlq

[rich arch]

before january there are 2-4 rytec users
with lw3‘s appearance they are all gone

[rich arch]

are you using armor piecreing mag

[ruby iris]

Ye, fmj equivalent

[rich arch]

use anti vehicle instead or you are using a less forgiving dlq

yes the ads time is faster, but dlq have luxury of fmj and sliencer

[ruby iris]

If you're knife switching they have the same fire rate

[ruby iris]

Zrg also has fmj and supp?

[rich arch]

zrg dont have fmj

but yes for supp

[ruby iris]

AP is fmj equivalent

Better than fmj actually

Better pen%

[rich arch]

still making the gun less forgiving compare to dlq

and no suppressor

or you are playing it slower than dlq

[ruby iris]

You can have a suppressor

[rich arch]

tbh the ads time difference is barely visible

normal people won‘t be able to tell 20ms difference

[ruby iris]

@bright cloud

[rich arch]

then my ads time suffer

[ruby iris]

No?

There's nothing harming ads time

[bright cloud]

What is he saying?

[ruby iris]

Dlq > zrg

[bright cloud]

Skill isaue

[ruby iris]

Cuz zrg is slower or cant have supp

[bright cloud]

Nit even gonna lie

[bright cloud]

It literally can

What is he on

And zrg has faster ads

[ruby iris]

Idk ask him

[bright cloud]

So yeah zrg>dlq

[ruby iris]

Less flinch also

[bright cloud]

Better wallbang too

97% wall pen vs 88%

[rich arch]

well maybe you are right
arguements over i guess
but well worser fire interval

[stray rapids]

Jesus just say dlq feels nicer

[rich arch]

(ps: i seldom snipe, don‘t know too much about snipers)

[ruby iris]

You're not gonna spam a sniper at max fire rate

And knife switching equalize the fire rate stat anyways

[rich arch]

stats wise zrg is better if you never miss

[bright cloud]

Btw by putting laser on dlq you got zrg ads speed and mag size but you cant hardscope properly

[ruby iris]

Zrg's ads animation feels better for me

[bright cloud]

Same

[stray rapids]

Just say dlq feels nicer for u that's it

[stray rapids]

See garena is so fun

[ruby iris]

If we go by feels alone then zrg is better, if we also take stats into consideration then zrg stomps

[ruby iris]

AB is also very fun

[stray rapids]

Feels is very subjective

Personally outlaw and HDR feels best to me🗣️🗣️

[bright cloud]

Literally better dlq but 3 less mag size and 7f more rof

[ruby iris]

I want the ohio reaper in codm

[stray rapids]

Are u speaking German 🗣️

[ruby iris]

[stray rapids]

What in the what

[stray rapids]

I'd like m2 BMG lmg🔥

[bright cloud]

Leave my misspells alone

[stray rapids]

Sick asf

[stray rapids]

Bro one had job

[stuck pasture]

mispel

[ruby iris]

Ohio ordnance reapr .338

Machine gun that can be folded up and be put into a backpack

[stray rapids]

Ohio

[ruby iris]

Yes, the factory is in ohio

(serious)

[stray rapids]

Rizz in ohio

[ruby iris]

Google if you dont believe me

[stray rapids]

Factorizz in ohio

What the sigma

[ruby iris]

@bright cloud thoughts on this

[bright cloud]

Didnt we talk ab this

[stray rapids]

I want that heavy ass lmg in MW2 and mw3

[ruby iris]

Ion remember

[stray rapids]

600rpm or so

[ruby iris]

Which?

Raalmg?

Raal was the heaviest machine gun in mw2 iirc

[hoary flare]

HCAR?

[ruby iris]

Same company, yes

[hoary flare]

yea

@tame gyro i would like to know why you downvoted my NTW build, care to share another build?

[ruby iris]

I downvoted cuz why not

[hoary flare]

sure lmao

how can i improve

[ruby iris]

Nothing, it's good, i just downvote cuz why not

[hoary flare]

oh lmao

[stray rapids]

Ya

[hoary flare]

at least use upvote to counter downvote

[ruby iris]

[ruby iris]

Sure

[hoary flare]

yay

[ocean narwhal]

the fuck f2000 has both fire rate barrels and ammo

and a recoil booster

the only thing that limits this thing will be bsa

@stray rapids did u see f2000 attachments

[stray rapids]

Ya

I interested in ammo

[rich arch]

vanguard guns be like:

[ocean narwhal]

increase damage and fire rate

shits broken

[stray rapids]

I wan make it main ar

[ocean narwhal]

it might just 3 tap first range

[void gale]

If my grau build has better stats than the one you shared (ofc I'll swap longshot)then how will the build you shared gonna perform better than mine

[ocean narwhal]

cant unless theres some strong af bsa attachment

23(9) base bsa

[ocean narwhal]

whats the build

[stray rapids]

#codm-gunsmith-builds

[void gale]

Go to gunsmith buils

Cause like are the numbers lying?

[stray rapids]

It has so much more mag for a start

[ocean narwhal]

both are fine

just use mag

[void gale]

Oh alright

[hoary flare]

ye it does

[native canopy]

Those stats don’t say much

[hoary flare]

longer range

[void gale]

Oh alr

[native canopy]

Thats why stat analysts exist

[stray rapids]

Nexus mono and arch tac is just how much BSA u want

[ocean narwhal]

i use t19

[stray rapids]

How bout U start using my lk

[ocean narwhal]

no

ur lk has rds

cant wait for 900rpm 3 shot kill f2000

[stray rapids]

Then the rds to supp or gran

Wuss

[ocean narwhal]

unoptimal weird build >>

[stray rapids]

My build is more unoptimal

[ocean narwhal]

dont care

[stray rapids]

Wimp

[void gale]

Grau has different iron sights for different barrels right?

[ocean narwhal]

yes

[void gale]

The archangel one is the cleanest ngl

That's one of the major reasons I use that barrel

[hoary flare]

then dont use rds

[ocean narwhal]

fuck gif doesnt work here

[hoary flare]

real

[sweet flower]

where?

me dont see in lod

[ocean narwhal]

in lod i think

sin posed it

[shadow hound]

Ngl Tundra without supressor is satisfying 🗿

[foggy lantern]

Outlaw or dlq33

[sweet flower]

hm ok

[sweet flower]

outlaw for aggressive and anyother flex sniper cuz dlq worst flex

[foggy lantern]

Ok do u know a good outlaw gunsmith

[sweet flower]

oh found it

[hoary flare]

#codm-gunsmith-builds

[foggy lantern]

Ok ty

[hoary flare]

np

[marsh anvil]

Heyo

Wassup

[hoary flare]

@stray rapids you got a better EM2 build for me?

[viral stone]

Hi unknown

[hoary flare]

yo

[viral stone]

Wassup up?

[bright cloud]

Only change would be sturdy grip arguably

[hoary flare]

i see

[bright cloud]

Rest is fine

[hoary flare]

thx

[stray rapids]

Something with rds

[hoary flare]

alr just send lul i wna see

[stray rapids]

Swap stock or smth

[stray rapids]

I'd stock to rds

[hoary flare]

ah alr

[shadow hound]

I'd swap grip instead cuz strafe 🗿

[hoary flare]

🗿

[stray rapids]

As long as that rds there

[bright cloud]

No

What the fuck is everyones issue with em2 optic

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

For real

[bright cloud]

I straight up dont get how you can dislike em2 irons

[rich arch]

It's pretty usable

[bright cloud]

And why people do in such huge numbers

[rich arch]

It's unbelievable that k9 unit will also receive mythic variant

What a huge leak this is

I don't remember being that hyped before

[stray rapids]

Obstructive as fuck lol

[ocean narwhal]

cant see shit

reticle cant get any bigger

[stray rapids]

Usable if ur enemy is brainless and doesn't hide behind cover

[ocean narwhal]

the reticle covers the whole screen

i cant see who i am aiming at

[stray rapids]

Thick fuck too

[bright cloud]

Fuck you codm black for not allowing links

[ocean narwhal]

[stray rapids]

Jn we 2v1 thumper

[ocean narwhal]

they shld let us change the reticle tbh

on guns like em2 swordfish

[stray rapids]

Some sucky smurf

[rich arch]

But isn't that actually a good thing in general?

[ocean narwhal]

[rich arch]

[stray rapids]

I can't believe ud ever use this emoji

[rich arch]

Lol

[ocean narwhal]

[stray rapids]

It's so over💔💔

[rich arch]

[coral smelt]

FFAR gunsmith?

[narrow glen]

@coral smelt, 8 Server Rank

[native canopy]

punishment for not doing your stat homework

[rich arch]

[ocean narwhal]

agency supp
takedown
44r salvo
bandit steady stock
airborne elastic grip

[coral smelt]

Thanks:)

[bright cloud]

Huh

[stray rapids]

Mag to rds

[ocean narwhal]

shut up

[stray rapids]

Sorry

[bright cloud]

Ae? Really?

Just use serpent

[hoary flare]

serpent

[ocean narwhal]

whats the diff in ads time

[stray rapids]

Serpent

[hoary flare]

e idk lazy open up cod

[ocean narwhal]

send the other one

[stray rapids]

Nah

[ocean narwhal]

1f difference for 0.2 flinch

[stray rapids]

What's base flinch

[ocean narwhal]

.66

[stray rapids]

Hm

[ocean narwhal]

and some strafe

[stray rapids]

Both look good

Who needs strafe on 3sk ar smh

[ocean narwhal]

i use this weird ass build tho

[native canopy]

ask for loadouts and you left me hanging

[bright cloud]

Whennn

Im sorry i cant see all pings

[stray rapids]

Cannot control recoil

Skill issue

[ocean narwhal]

why control recoil when attachments do it for u

[stray rapids]

🗣️🗣️

[ocean narwhal]

🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[bright cloud]

5sk you idot

[ocean narwhal]

[bright cloud]

Ik he is trolling but still

[native canopy]

joking

i did ask and you did leave me hanging

but i just used drh

[stray rapids]

My brain was wired to em2

[native canopy]

with spear

[bright cloud]

When

[bright cloud]

You werent trolling? Then you stoopid

[ocean narwhal]

stoopeed

em2 good but feels trash at long range

[stray rapids]

Kill ursef

[native canopy]

other server

[stray rapids]

Bouncy gun

[ocean narwhal]

can fix with ranger barrel but then i cant 3 tap long range

[stray rapids]

Just ak47

[ocean narwhal]

ak feels like trash

[stray rapids]

U are trash

[ocean narwhal]

real

ngl i think its just the skin

[stray rapids]

Ppl either like ak or hate ak

[ocean narwhal]

frostbrand p2w but not p2w

[stray rapids]

Base

[bright cloud]

Asm10->em2->drh->ak47->mow

Aggresive->passive

[ocean narwhal]

mow thermite

[stray rapids]

Super passive

[bright cloud]

Now all arguing is unecessary

[bright cloud]

Nah im talking base rn

[stray rapids]

Striker45

[ocean narwhal]

slug

[bright cloud]

Qq10>

[ocean narwhal]

wait thats the smg

[stray rapids]

Qq11

[stray rapids]

Stoopeed

[ocean narwhal]

yourmom

[ocean narwhal]

how did u like my non duplex oden

cant hide anymore

[stray rapids]

That shit actually works

[ocean narwhal]

[stray rapids]

Not like the duplex

[stray rapids]

Try my lk build

U know u want it

U fw it low-key

[hoary flare]

wait An94 most aggro 3tap?

[bright cloud]

3 tap ar yes

[hoary flare]

o neat

cuz brandon barrel?

[ocean narwhal]

kid named brandon: im a barrel bow

[unreal gale]

but you can replace the whole list with just drh.

[bright cloud]

Nuh uh

[unreal gale]

just change the stock

[native canopy]

I need to try your build on my main

My alt has weird settings

But your build can cook 🧑‍🍳

[unreal gale]

me?

[native canopy]

Yeah

[unreal gale]

oh yeah, how does it feel for you? compared to the standard

you're talking about my drh build right

[native canopy]

Yeah

Honestly it feels much better to not have to hit every shot

And the ttk seems faster

Need to try on my main first tho

[bright cloud]

@unreal gale Did you see groza buff

Its even more meta now

Idk your thoughts in recoil tho

[deep glacier]

ASM10 has like 140ms TTK up close

@bright cloud you got a link/image with the balance changes

[bright cloud]

There are no balamce changes today

[deep glacier]

Then what's this about

The range buff it got?

[bright cloud]

This szm

[deep glacier]

It still won't get used cuz Furg and Bobby think it's mid )))

[bright cloud]

Yeah

[bright cloud]

Bro timing is impecable

Im arguing with some moron on reddit about groza

And he said ,,Groza is meta" is like saying ,,M4 is meta"

[deep glacier]

Jesus f. Christ

[bright cloud]

And when i provided stats bro said ,,Id love to see it beat mg42"

(They have exact same ttk)

250ms ttk rounded off to frane rounding

[deep glacier]

I mean comparing any gun to MG42 is kinda unfair, besides HVK, Thermow and potentially Oden/Branson

And truth is that comfort plays a big role in weapon popularity

Groza has irons that I personally love cuz I grew up with STALKER, and the Groza was the best weapon in 2/3 main games

but I understand that to someone used to M13/Grau/some other bland weapon with great irons they're weird

[bright cloud]

@deep glacier id love redditarts to come here 1 day

[deep glacier]

MG42 meanwhile, having arguably the cleanest irons out of all LMGs:

[bright cloud]

Id cook em lmao

[deep glacier]

I should really start using it more

For nostalgia if nothing else

[bright cloud]

Also i love how people cant differentiate ttk and pv so say stupid stuff like mg kills faster than type 19 and groza