codm-gunsmith-help

[bright cloud]

High level? No

[viral stone]

If u have skill u can play with any gun in ranked legendary

But competative people use the weapons which they mastered over years

[deep glacier]

This chat

sniiiiiffff

Smells of skill issue in here

[bright cloud]

Uhmmmmmm how did you know

W FANTA

Yes

Or be like me and use irons base

:QWQ:

[plain sparrow]

Hey I use only ak117 in br❤️

🗿

[bright cloud]

I mean its a tier in both br and mp

[viral stone]

I use ak brothers combination in br

[plain sparrow]

Yaa 🗿

[bright cloud]

Same performance relatively speaking

So it would land on a tier for both br and mp

Its the good but others are better gun

[viral stone]

Drh is simply goated ars in history of codm

[bright cloud]

@tall flame whats your main ar krig build i wonder

Hmm lemme check steady stock cuz thats interesting

[rich arch]

@tall flame

: 📨

[bright cloud]

Okay yeah that is actually really good i just checked

Id put striker fg to mantain at least some strafe

[rich arch]

Hmmm

[bright cloud]

Okay but this is rly good

If you want no laser

Yeah. Wait a sec

@tall flame marksman is also good but gae bv

And also laser build is also rly good but then question of laser comes into place

[viral stone]

Mytic krig 6 has less aim shake therefore it's more stable

[rich arch]

🧐

Lemme just 📸

[bright cloud]

What

[rich arch]

Before it gets

[rich arch]

Save useful information like a good fellow student

[bright cloud]

Yes. But aa laser build pretty much beats lk except recoil and question of laser

Yeah

[rich arch]

[bright cloud]

Steady stock exisfs but then you lose huge strafe pro

[bright cloud]

@tall flame thats veri gae

Ik but i wanna consider it. Actually real question now

Does bsa even need to be boosted on krig?

Its 17(10). Do you think thats enough for main ar

[rich arch]

Fantasia will be the first ever master role with 0 messages

[swift abyss]

why do they do that

[odd sedge]

@bright cloud a ul736 br build for long rage pls

or any build fr

don’t matter

[bright cloud]

Hiding msgs from randoms

[bright cloud]

Extended barrel
Steady stock
Disabled
60 round mag
Granulated grip

[swift abyss]

someone tell them about dms

[odd sedge]

?

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

[modest axle]

anypne want to join championship team we need one more legendary?

[quick zodiac]

I got an Ak build that help me in

[sweet flower]

ranger,mono,nostock,50 mag,gran

[velvet oyster]

bro i need cbr4 attachment

anyone have?

anyone

[spring vortex]

Alr here

[dense musk]

Yo question why isn’t it letting me post in the gunsmith

It won’t let me do a picture

[tawny walrus]

You need to get gunsmith pass from #┃server-media-passes.

[dense musk]

That says I have no access to that

I’m confused

[ruby iris]

Pick a device first

#╭╴roles-info

[charred mortar]

I want something close to the M21 sniper Soap uses in CoD4 as well as the one used in All Ghillied Up.

[narrow glen]

@charred mortar, 17 Server Rank

[spring vortex]

But is it one tap tho ?

[eager plover]

Yes bro, NA, legendary

[charred mortar]

Yes. But is it similar to Soap and Price's M21s in the game?

[dense musk]

Yall got a good extremely fast ads dlq or any bolt sniper

[spring vortex]

💀

[spring vortex]

Maybe but pointless if it can't 1 tap like normal sniper

[charred mortar]

It does.

I just want an opinion

On the similarities in looks

[viscid temple]

What are the top 5 best guns right now?

[tawny walrus]

HVK
SKS
DRH
T19
Fennec

[spring vortex]

Mg42

[tawny walrus]

And Oden.

[spring vortex]

Mow thermite too

It's annoying

[tawny walrus]

Not really.

One second TTK.

[stone venture]

Machine pistol gunsmith to pair with sniper?

[spring vortex]

Tbh the thermite passive damage that make it annoying in gunfight

They usually just gonna hit and run u with mow thermite

[stone venture]

M21 ebr is not good 😂

[stone venture]

Someone drop pls

[tawny walrus]

I don’t know, haven’t used yet.

[stone venture]

I tried it and I don't really know

The hipfire is decent but not the best imo

The akimbo is fucking insane though

Glad the damage range is tiny as shit

[spring vortex]

Btw is 200 mid range barrel on as val really bugged ?

[stone venture]

8 damage 😂

[tawny walrus]

It is, tych found this bug.

[rich arch]

can i ask for a M4 build here (Main ar plz no flex, I know the flex build but man it is a downgrade t19)

[rich arch]

the range buff is bugged and only give like 4m

anyway the only viable option to play val is to make it a semi auto rifle with smg mobility

[spring vortex]

The main point of as val is to play like SMG anyways

Its aggro ar since it's integrated suppressor make the gun more viable for aggro with more attachment slot

[stone venture]

The problem with machine pistol is that you need atleast 20 round mags unless you have God aim or the superb ability to turn 2v1s into two 1v1s

Ontop of that vulture is necessary so it might be pretty bad for snipers that use toughness

Cause held ammo is quite small

Think it's like 30 for bass

Base

[austere igloo]

you unlocked the gun already?

I haven't even got to that

[stone venture]

It was pretty easy

I unlocked it while grinding event quests

[austere igloo]

but machine pistol is obtained from bp, no?

not from the challenge pass

[stone venture]

Yeah

Some challenge pass missions give BP exp

[austere igloo]

they do

[foggy aurora]

true

XPR is straight away no skill

[foggy aurora]

Trust me, I dont use it as a sniper in BR, and with recoil reducing attachments (even though it has 0 recoil)

[ocean narwhal]

more skill than all the snipers tho

maybe outlaw is on the same level

[ruby iris]

same difficulty, half the reward

[ocean narwhal]

fr

[foggy aurora]

I dont think so

[ocean narwhal]

yeah other snipers u can hit legs or stomach

[foggy aurora]

Outlaw's probably one of the hardest, thats what I like about it

[ocean narwhal]

xpr u need to hit chest or aims

[foggy aurora]

Im so good with it too

[ocean narwhal]

same for outlaw

[ruby iris]

hard for the sake of being hard

[tawny walrus]

Gonna admit that handling distance on snipers like XPR is tough.

[ruby iris]

doesnt reward you with anything

[foggy aurora]

For the sake of being hard, its never hard

[foggy aurora]

wdym?

[ocean narwhal]

snipers were never hard to use in codm

its just that xpr and outlaw are harder to use

[ruby iris]

it's a slower xpr in terms of ads speed, fire rate and mobility

and you dont even get better flinch

lethality is the same

[ocean narwhal]

and like 2 frames of idle sway time

3 if ur lucky

[ruby iris]

who even uses outlaw for hardscoping

[foggy aurora]

ADS speed for me feeels really fast with the outlaw

I've been using it since a long time

[ocean narwhal]

idk

[ruby iris]

xpr is faster than that

[foggy aurora]

That's one of the reasons Im so good with it

[ocean narwhal]

biggest myth in codm: outlaw ads speed is faster than xpr

[tawny walrus]

What’s the difference between quickscoping and hardscoping? I’ve never been understanding.

[ruby iris]

there is no reason to use outlaw, if you can use outlaw, might as well swap to xpr

[foggy aurora]

But I dont want to risk the chances of a 1 shot with the XPR, even with the stopping power mag

[ocean narwhal]

quickscope: ads and shoot immediately
hardscope: ads and wait for the enemy to walk into ur reticle

[foggy aurora]

XPR sometimes 2 shots even with it

[ruby iris]

it's the same exact 1 tap potential as outlaw

[tawny walrus]

Ah, now I see. Thanks.

[ocean narwhal]

outlaw = worse xpr. end of story

[foggy aurora]

Multiple times its not been the same case for me

[ruby iris]

quickscope = ads and shoot immediately, hardscope = hold angles

[ocean narwhal]

locus no sp = worse xpr

locus sp, dlq = worse tundra

[foggy aurora]

Outlaw = OG XPR

[ruby iris]

xpr is still like, the 2nd best sniper

[ocean narwhal]

nah its not even semi auto

[foggy aurora]

XPR IS NOT THE ORIGINAL VERSION

[ruby iris]

that shit got banned so fast in champs

[foggy aurora]

OUTLAW'S OLDER THAN IT

[ruby iris]

xpr came out before outlaw

[ocean narwhal]

it would be xpr 5v5 if they didnt

[ruby iris]

[foggy aurora]

Wait what?

I think outlaw's older

[ruby iris]

xpr is one of the original s1 guns, outlaw is s6

[ocean narwhal]

xpr was there from the benninging i think

but it was bad

[tawny walrus]

Not really, since you can’t bring several snipers in one team.

[foggy aurora]

I never noticed it in the game

[ruby iris]

[ocean narwhal]

before they added that rule

[foggy aurora]

But outlaw was better at least back then

[ocean narwhal]

thats a good rule ngl

[tawny walrus]

Hm, I thought it was always like that.

[ocean narwhal]

snd was like 4 snipers and 1 smg

[foggy aurora]

XPR was buffed multiple times in the past seasons

[ruby iris]

both are equally bad, xpr got better faster than outlaw

[ocean narwhal]

[tawny walrus]

Wait, when was that rule introduced?

[ocean narwhal]

2023 i think

cant remember

[ruby iris]

it's like 1 marksman, 1 heavy, 2 ars and 2 smgs iirc

[tawny walrus]

So it’s not that old.

[ruby iris]

marksman = snipers/marksman
heavy = lmg/shotgun

[ocean narwhal]

was it together with hvk lc ban

[ocean narwhal]

and now heavy is gone right?

[foggy aurora]

Why's the cooldown 5 seconds now?

[ruby iris]

still there

[foggy aurora]

that's way too long

[ocean narwhal]

oh i thought sg lmgs got banned

[ruby iris]

you can only have 1 shotgun or lmg in your team

[tawny walrus]

To not spam.

[ocean narwhal]

ah

[ruby iris]

and 1 sniper/marksman

[tawny walrus]

I still can’t forget that ridiculous Kilo LMG build. It just can’t get out of my head.

[rich arch]

anyone have a balanced machine pistol build yet 🗿

[ocean narwhal]

akimbo
7.62mm
rapid trigger
vod 35mm
m1929 silencer

[rich arch]

@tawny walrus lw tundra build best one shot pls 🥺

[tawny walrus]

Tac suppressor
Tiger team
FMJ
7 mag
Serpent wrap

[rich arch]

happi happi

[stray rapids]

Wasn't there 1 match zhigzhag was running 4 snipers in snd

[ruby iris]

When?

[stray rapids]

The 1 match last year or so they were dominating a team

Forgot their name but they were executing left and right

[ruby iris]

Prolly when the rules werent implemented

[stray rapids]

Hm

[spring vortex]

Prob

[strong plume]

anyone got good machine pistol gunsmithing

[rich arch]

Interesting

I want that

[spring vortex]

I might accidentally built that and clutch the snd rank w that and 4x rtc scope

[young shale]

machine pistol builds out?

[tacit mural]

Is a good tundra build?

[young shale]

suppressed or non suppressed

[rich arch]

Lol more downvotes, and it's literally the best build for DLQ in BR

[young shale]

bro forgot the mip strike stock to ykm combat

[rich arch]

Strike stock is fine

[young shale]

get that full ads

aggro br sniping

shotguns tryhards got a new nightmare now 🥶 😈

[rich arch]

+25% flinch for an all around build

Hmmm

[young shale]

i mean the fast ads perk do exist in br

so that can kinda cancel out msot of the ads de buff

[rich arch]

Flinch boost for hardscoping situations

[astral jasper]

its so good in br

[rich arch]

@bright cloud serpent wrap for -30% ads time or
airborne elastic for -25% ads time and -35% flinch
(Tundra MP)

[bright cloud]

Ae cuz its 1 frame vs 0.8 flinch

And that .8 is big diff

[young shale]

i should put elastic wrap for tundra respawn build then

snd is fine

[tacit mural]

Tundra build for ranked please

[rich arch]

Thanks, I have 2 builds btw for it.
SnD build: tac sup, tiger team, fmj, 7 rnd, airborne elastic grip
Respawns: tac sup, hammer forged barrel, serpent grip, 7rnd fmj
What do you think?

[bright cloud]

Snd build is all you need tbh

[rich arch]

Nice then! So no need of the fire interval boost then?

[bright cloud]

Tbh no

[rich arch]

Perfect 👍

[rich arch]

Another question: In BR the Flinch boost of the snipers is necessary, isn't it?

[tacit mural]

Is there a quick ads build for tundra?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[rich arch]

Perfect I have everything I need now

[rich arch]

Ohh by the way...lol
When using Tundra in MP, something feels slightly different than the other snipers. On the path video it says that it has a different ads animation but to be honest there's also something else that feels kinda off compared to other snipers. It's like it has slower ads after sprint animation? I don't know how to explain it

[bright cloud]

Yes i know exactly what you are talking about tundra has a slow sprint to ads speed. What you said is corr3ct after sprinting if you press ads there is a delay that will slow your ads down and tundra has by far worst

[rich arch]

Yeahhh

[stray rapids]

@ruby iris how's cx9 vs fennec ttk

[dusty heart]

Just slide cancel, ez fix

[rich arch]

[native canopy]

I think fennec has faster ttk

[twilit fractal]

Anyone got a r9-0 gunsmith?(Mp)

[empty anchor]

Type19 best loadout? BR and MP

[empty anchor]

Yo bro, I liked your ASM10 loadout last time.. got any tips about type19? BR and MP?

[bright cloud]

For mp
Accrrate barrel
Heavyweight suppresor
Agile stock
Polymer grip
Fast reload mag(note its a lil slow ads speed wide i can give you smth else if that bothers)

For br
Accurate barrel
Heavyweight suppresor
Suppirt mag
Steady stock
Laser fotegrip
(Slow asf too but hey its br)

[empty anchor]

Thank you

[stray rapids]

Slow drh build

[elder orbit]

Anyone have a tech 9 class

[native canopy]

Br icr build?

[bright cloud]

Marksman barrel
Monolithic suppresor
No stock
25 round otm
Granulated grip

[bright cloud]

Marksman barrel
Steady stock
Fast extended mag
Granulated grip
Tactical laser

[rich arch]

@bright cloud hii

I just tried it, I feet better

[bright cloud]

Why so rood fanta

Also i started digging and my gut feeling was right some hella usefull and interesting shit there

Ill try to compile everything i find useful and give you in dms is that okay?

Some graphs are ultra interesting and dope

Also they had similar spreadsheet to ours but worse

[rich arch]

@bright cloud reply not bad

[narrow glen]

@tall flame, 26 Server Rank

[rich arch]

I need cp

[narrow glen]

[rich arch]

Not here in my account

[narrow glen]

[bright cloud]

Its based off of my analysis and what my analysis tells me what are best builds

That isnt best i agree

@tall flame do we do what lock told us?

He said give attachments and pros/cons to ai

But that takes a lot of time too

Yeah

So we stay with my builds?

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

[normal sky]

.

Any idea what this ak117 build might be ? I got it from an enemy
Used this gun to wipe their whole squad
I don't really do good in close range flights but this gun helped me a lot

[sweet flower]

grip barrel sucks

[plain sparrow]

Is this build for drh good?
Muzzle: Tactical suppressor
Barrel:OWC Ranger
Stock:No Stock
Ammunition:25 Round Otm mag
Rear Grip: Granulated Grip Tape

[tawny walrus]

Yep.

[plain sparrow]

👍

[stone venture]

Machine pistol gunsmith to use with my sniper?

[stone venture]

Yo do u have a machine pistol gunsmith

[bright cloud]

You are 3rd one asking me in last 5 min
7.62mm mag
Akimbo
35mm barrel
Rapid trigger
M1219 suppresor

[stone venture]

Thanks

[remote silo]

Mauser meta real?

[sweet flower]

use mono instead of tac

[rich arch]

Apparently the new pistol is very good on zombies too (for anyone interested)

[viscid belfry]

akimbo worth?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[viscid belfry]

how much?

[viscid belfry]

y exactly

[somber tinsel]

Oggaed told nah

[viscid belfry]

who(

[bright cloud]

Increases 5 tap range and hipfire performance

[somber tinsel]

u don‘t know him anyway

[bright cloud]

You dont wanna know

[viscid belfry]

y

[bright cloud]

He also said mp>lcar

[viscid belfry]

ok

[somber tinsel]

Eh?

[bright cloud]

He said machine pistol>lcar

[somber tinsel]

Yeah but what?

6.3 meter range

[bright cloud]

No he is special

Using fb stabilizer(aka no suppresor)

And no akimbo

So he has more range but worse ttk

[somber tinsel]

Breh

[bright cloud]

Exactly

[bright cloud]

Btw what happened to pfp

[somber tinsel]

Ugh I can’t find one that satisfies me

So I‘d rather have no pfp

default ig idc

[bright cloud]

He is special

[spring vortex]

Lol

[bright cloud]

Do you even know who that is?

@spring vortex also when unmute

[spring vortex]

I guess it's one of your data analyst? Or another random discord user like us ?
Well @rich arch should be free from this server prison for couple of days

Now

[viscid belfry]

im special too

[bright cloud]

First but literally no other ge likes oggae

[viscid belfry]

i still didnt understood who is him

[bright cloud]

Ge who noone likes cuz he has some wierd ahh takes

[viscid belfry]

ah

basically me then

[bright cloud]

Except you arent ge

[viscid belfry]

lol

[fast tangle]

What’s the best cx9 build with 9mm hollow mag

[bright cloud]

9mm mag
Cx fr stock
Cx 23 barrep
Monolithic suppresor
Ace grip/sleight of hand

[fast tangle]

Cx 23 mag?

[bright cloud]

Sorry barrel

[fast tangle]

K thanks

[rich arch]

@bright cloud which one of these is better for Argus? Or maybe a different one that's better than them?

[undone sandal]

you don't need to build range for argus

as much as possible you want to ads before shooting

so faster ads is ideal

[rich arch]

Nice

[spring vortex]

Yeah man I just met pro Argus player and yes his gameplay is just like krm dude but ads

Fast ads player

[elder thunder]

Now gimme good ranked AK47 build for MP Ranked

[rich arch]

💤

[rich arch]

@undone sandal what did you use to grind camos on machine pistol

[elder thunder]

What attachments do you mean? I am sorry I don't understand...

[chrome sundial]

Monolithic suppressor
Ranger barrel
No stock
Extended mag b
Granulated grip tape

[elder thunder]

Thx!

[undone sandal]

1. no attachments
2. main build - m1929 supp, 35mm barrel, akimbo, rapid action, 7.62
3. long shot - f8 stabilizer, 150mm he, rapid action, 7.62, taped grip
4. headshot - m1929 supp, 150mm he, rapid action, 7.62, taped grip

[burnt tiger]

Region : Nigeria

Looking for 3 more people for stage 2 to grind games quick !

[rich arch]

Thank you saving that for when I get motivations

[undone sandal]

im only using 7.62 cuz bv penalty is bugged
if its fixed then im switching to 9mm

[rich arch]

I haven’t read up

[austere igloo]

ppl have alr unlocked machine pistol?

that's too quick

[undone sandal]

people already have it diamond

[rich arch]

Magi got it diamond

I bought the leggy because I decided I wanted the foxtrot skin for br and yknow

Can’t get lucky

[austere igloo]

fuck

I haven't got to unlocking it

[undone sandal]

you arent losing out much

gun is trash in its current state

only good in like melee range

[strong monolith]

Thing is
I think it has a lot of potential
Issue is that it needs a ~20% range buff

[undone sandal]

it does have potential

too bad it sucks range and bv wise

[edgy radish]

anyone know a tundra immortal stone gunsmith?

[narrow glen]

@edgy radish, 14 Server Rank

[tawny walrus]

And 10 mag is just a joke.

[austere igloo]

What name to give this?

[edgy radish]

thx

[spring vortex]

Hmm

[maiden briar]

cx9 build pls

[austere igloo]

Gladly

[rich arch]

I joined the dark side

[undone sandal]

base having 10 is a pain

wouldve been understandable if it could like 3 tap

burst wouldve been strong

[fallow dragon]

What do u do for a living

[tired grove]

🔥

[tawny walrus]

Yeah, I don’t see any point of using burst, if it doesn’t increase TTK.

[undone sandal]

makes it worse

[remote silo]

He judge people

[rich arch]

@hoary flare can u just give ur tundra loadout

[ocean narwhal]

tactical suppressor
hammer forged/tiger team
7rnd/bandit stock
serpent grip
fmj

[hoary flare]

hello

serp
ham forge
bandit stock
7r mag
tac supp

now i inactivity again

[rich arch]

kk thanks

[rich arch]

hiii

[wary tulip]

good machine pistol build?

[fast oriole]

Can someone give me a dlq quick scope gunsmith

[ocean narwhal]

u can use fmj instead of fast switch

to switch faster

but u can make it faster

[buoyant cypress]

Who knows the best asval gunsmith

??.?

[native canopy]

Which

Fmj?

[wary tulip]

Not akimbo or burst

[ocean narwhal]

?

use hammer forged or tiger team barrel

and 7rnd mag

[native canopy]

Damn

[rich arch]

yo chat is first one is better or second one

[native canopy]

None

[normal sky]

@bright cloud

[rich arch]

none? fr? 🥺@native canopy what about this? 🥺🥺

I think this is better

49 mobility

[tawny walrus]

#codm-gunsmith-builds

[undone sandal]

tac supp
hammer forged/tiger team barrel
serpent wrap/airborne elastic wrap
7r mag
fmj/bandit steady stock/cqb pad

[undone sandal]

if you tapped the gun when it was in your inventory
we couldve seen what they equipped

[rich arch]

@undone sandal can you tell me how can i grind faster?

[undone sandal]

grind what faster

[rich arch]

My pfp is showing rookie

[undone sandal]

ah server role

just talk

you can check your server levels in #┃plastic-commands with !rank

[elder thunder]

Best QQ9 build for Ranked Multiplayer?

[rich arch]

K thqnks @undone sandal

[undone sandal]

np

[native canopy]

fennec build

[rich arch]

@undone sandal im a youtuber @FuRYOfficialYT

Y im i not in content creators

[undone sandal]

mono
op fg
steady stock
ext mag
ext barrel/gran

[undone sandal]

can you link and haveit shown on your profile

[undone sandal]

tac supp
recon tac
light stock
gran
45rnd

10mm if you havethe aim

[wary tulip]

Like full auto build

I made one tho nvm

[ocean narwhal]

it is full auto?

[undone sandal]

that is full auto

[narrow glen]

@undone sandal, 99 Server Rank

[wary tulip]

without the akimbo.

[rich arch]

Drop tac for grab

Gran*

[ocean narwhal]

laser is better for cqc

[rich arch]

Yea but

It’s a laser

[ocean narwhal]

thats like the only gun i use laser on

[undone sandal]

swap akimbo for leather grip then

[hoary flare]

is the origin 12 built for ads or hipfire

[wicked shadow]

guys can somebody give me the best FFAR mobility build?

[narrow glen]

@wicked shadow, 11 Server Rank

[wicked shadow]

thanks

[bright cloud]

10mm mag/45 round
Monolithic suppresor
Recon tac long barrel
No stock
Granulated grip

[bright cloud]

Ads

[hoary flare]

ight

[hoary flare]

good?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[hoary flare]

:D

is this good? i want a hipfire build for LCAR

[runic sun]

Hipfire i’d say

[hoary flare]

but granulated

[runic sun]

Hipfiring w the echo is better

Use the mip laser

[hoary flare]

idk

gri said its for ads, so ads it is

[runic sun]

Wait how do i send pic here

Guess i dont have the perms lol

[runic sun]

Its upto you

But imo hipfiring is better

[ocean narwhal]

thats ur opinion but the fact is ads is better

[hoary flare]

ight fam

[runic sun]

🙂

[narrow glen]

@runic sun, 18 Server Rank

[hoary flare]

if ya say so

[hoary flare]

#┃server-media-passes

[bright cloud]

Lightweight stock instead of sturdy is best build. Ik you want hilfire huild buuuuuut 5+m/s strafe is too good to pass up

[hoary flare]

i see

[bright cloud]

Fastest strafe in game

[hoary flare]

oh wow

[bright cloud]

You should ads on semi automatics aka echo and striker

[bright cloud]

Its faster than movement speed of some guns

[runic sun]

Give this a try

[hoary flare]

aa12 hipfire?

[bright cloud]

For aa12 im on fence but hs2 is def hipfire. Striker and echo are ads only

[runic sun]

Use it w the gung ho perk

[hoary flare]

true

[bright cloud]

Aa12 is ads if you build it like a dmr

[hoary flare]

slugs?

[bright cloud]

(Yes dmr jak12 is a thing and its not as bad as you think)

[bright cloud]

Yes. Infinite 2 tap to entire body

[hoary flare]

oh my

[bright cloud]

Con? Mag size

8 roumds

[hoary flare]

true xd

[bright cloud]

Also it its more ads speed tham strafe speed. Like opposite of as val

[hoary flare]

oh wow

[bright cloud]

As val has fast asf strafe jak12 has fast asf ads speed

[runic sun]

Hip fire works for me tho

[hoary flare]

quickscope

[runic sun]

Sometimes i’d one tap w the echo

[bright cloud]

Insane

[hoary flare]

lmao

[bright cloud]

But then again at most you can extract 4 kills

Also also you cant 1 tap head iirc

[hoary flare]

what bout head shots

oh

[bright cloud]

Just cjecked it can till like 3 meters

[bright cloud]

@hoary flare tf is that ak build😭

Short barrel stippled disabled no suppresor

[hoary flare]

ikr

thats wild asf

[bright cloud]

At least grip barrel is like ig he doesnt know how important range is but short barrel stippled?

[hoary flare]

fair lol

stippled big no no on autos

[bright cloud]

Except bugged oden

[hoary flare]

true xd

[rich arch]

I guess it's best build for rookie-elite ranks

Can we say that mac10 is the equivalent of wsp swarm (of wzm) in codm?

[hoary flare]

wsp akimbo brace stock 🔥

idk if thats the aftermarket part for the swarm

[rich arch]

[young shale]

that one stupid ass game you get after getting a bot lobby in ranked

bro u get a good game after bot lobby

the next game i got

0-5ed 😭

[frigid root]

50 round cx9?

[tawny walrus]

?

[hoary flare]

you want a build??

[spice zealot]

Anyone have an ak117 build for Alcatraz?

[frigid root]

Ye

[hoary flare]

-50 R drum
-CX38S
-FR stock
-ace grip
-any laser, optic, perk of choice

[viral stone]

Why can't we reduce ads and increase Accuracy, range and control as it is a smg it will have more mobility

[hoary flare]

what?

[viral stone]

Reducing mobility and increasing all other stats

[hoary flare]

erm

i use the fr stock to ensure its still mobile?

i dont get what youre saying here

[viral stone]

I meant we can reduce mobility and increase all other stats

On cx9

[viral stone]

My cx9 build
Classic red dot
50 drum mag
Ranger foregrip
Cxmm stock
Cx38E barrel

[hoary flare]

no silencer 💀

plus scorpion's recoil is easy to handle

[viral stone]

Stats
Mobility 80
Control 47
Range 49
Accuracy 48

[hoary flare]

steady stock is a big nono, kills strafe which is needed for aggressive, cqb playstyles

[viral stone]

I use tactical suppressor instead of foregrip

[hoary flare]

uh imo 38S>>

[viral stone]

I just change it now

[hoary flare]

free slot for stuff

[viral stone]

Explain me clearly

[hoary flare]

38S is better as it give you free slot for perk/laser

[viral stone]

I use my build

The mobility is 80 sufficient for me

[hoary flare]

you do you ig

[viral stone]

38s is good

But idont play snd

I use this gun in nuketown

And icebreaker map

[viral stone]

I will use yours also

I looks good

[hoary flare]

ight

i see

hf with it i guess

[viral stone]

And decide which build to continue

[bright cloud]

Those arent stats

[viral stone]

Most of the iferg build stats

[bright cloud]

Huh?

[bright cloud]

I just said those arent stats and you bringing up fergs builds

[viral stone]

Then text clearly

[bright cloud]

I did?

I literally said those arent stats

[viral stone]

Transparency

[ruby iris]

tap the 🔀 button

[bright cloud]

@viral stone .

[ruby iris]

on the gunsmith page

[bright cloud]

Huh bro you need to text more clearly

Why you mention ferg builds and transparency while im talking about how those arent stats

[bright cloud]

Ig what he said are stat bars

And i mean

[ruby iris]

im still waiting for campers smp

[bright cloud]

Its stat bars

[ruby iris]

[bright cloud]

Those arent stats

[bright cloud]

Same.

[ruby iris]

it's getting unbearable

[viral stone]

Then what

[ruby iris]

like i said, tap the 🔀 button on the gunsmith page

[viral stone]

That stats were for cx9

[bright cloud]

No those were stat bars not stats

[ruby iris]

.

[bright cloud]

Wait lemme pull up cx9 stats

[ruby iris]

btw, that comp ass fennec build

feels really good just slapping onto any smg

[viral stone]

It's was a gunsmith where I reduced mobility to increase other

@bright cloud I get u know sry if I messed anything

[bright cloud]

More so other way where you reduced everything for lil bsa

[viral stone]

I reduced only mobility

Which I don't care in most scenario

[trail dune]

Any load out recommendations guys?

[narrow glen]

@trail dune, 14 Server Rank

[viral stone]

Which one is mine blue or yellow

[bright cloud]

And handling
And no suppression
And potential reload speed
For .6 meters range and 0.2 bsa at 13m

[bright cloud]

Yellow.

[bright cloud]

What playstyle?

[trail dune]

If u want ads go for blue, if u want more accuracy and manageable recoil go for yellow

[viral stone]

Well I discussed about that I'm still finding for a good loadout for cx9

[trail dune]

Supportive

[trail dune]

Can I recom one?

[viral stone]

Sure

[bright cloud]

Except not rly. That bsa is 0.2 at prime range which is literally unnoticable

[bright cloud]

Wdym like passive?

[ruby iris]

ranger fg flinch stock

🗣️

[bright cloud]

Tec kilo

🗣️

[sweet flower]

aka meta kilo

[last bolt]

Hi

[shadow hound]

@bright cloud does fast recovery make quick fix faster

[bright cloud]

Gun perk or like red perk

[shadow hound]

Red and green perk combined

Healing up after a gunfight is goated

[viral stone]

Yeah it makes

[bright cloud]

It doesnr make quick fix faster

But what it does do

Is make you get to full hp faster

[shadow hound]

Not using then 🗿

[rich arch]

What’s the best gun type combo for br? Like sniper and ar, sniper and lmg, etc?

[shadow hound]

I usually do AR and SMG

[misty oak]

You don’t need a combo I played with all guns

[bright cloud]

[bright cloud]

Mg42 plus hs0405 is the main one but there are other options too

Like mg42 plus hdr
Or xpr plus tec9

[sweet flower]

I prefer fr 556+na-45

na 45 is so good in br underated

jk

[bright cloud]

Double akimvo machine pistol for that full oggae aura

[formal river]

My friend needs an aggressive Ul build

[sweet flower]

yeshhh

[sweet flower]

dam

[bright cloud]

How aggresive

[sweet flower]

is machien pistol better then Wcar like he says?

[bright cloud]

Ofc no bro is on that premium zaza

[sweet flower]

didnt he say they have like same ttk in first range or sumshit

[formal river]

A decent amount of ADS speed

[sweet flower]

he says mp is lcar with 1200rpm and bonus 6m 200 ms tktk

dam hes a bozo

[bright cloud]

Not really

[sweet flower]

y

[bright cloud]

0-6 mp is faster by 2f
6-9 lcar is faster 3f
9-11 mp is faster by 3f
11-16 lcar faster by 5f

[sweet flower]

hm

[bright cloud]

Its not as black and white as he represents it

If you avarage it out lcar has slightly better ttk

[sweet flower]

I would use lcar since 11-16 is wherE I use pistols

[bright cloud]

But then also lcar has other pros

[sweet flower]

true

im sticking to my akimbo dobvra

[bright cloud]

Like 2 times better hipfire and .73m/s faster strafe

.71s faster reload and .41s larger mag

And is suppressed

[sweet flower]

yeha

Wcar still the best pistol

[deep glacier]

Just use crossbow bruh

Pocket DLQ (for literally one kill)

[sweet flower]

shut up

[bright cloud]

Except if you are oggae

[deep glacier]

In all honesty, it's about 200m/s

So double what you claim

[bright cloud]

Crossbow is peak wym(i dont even consider it as a pistol)

[sweet flower]

its too op if its considered a pistol

[bright cloud]

Its a launcher noone can convince me otherwise

[sweet flower]

if so Wcar would be dethroned

the only pistol better then crossbow is wp

imma use crosbsow

for the free grenades

[bright cloud]

Exactlyy

Its much more useful as a launcher

[sweet flower]

wait

the gas grenade only happens if u hit the enemy

u cant shoot the gorundlemme try

[marsh seal]

best guns and gunsmiths for br rn???

[bright cloud]

Yes you can

[sweet flower]

IT FOR LIKE TWO SECONDS

TF??its uselss

[bright cloud]

Mg42 tec9 hdr xpr tundra hs0405 hs2126 swordfish

[marsh seal]

🙏 thank you

[sweet flower]

crossbow is so useless

[marsh seal]

does hs0405 out perform KRM for hipfire?

[bright cloud]

It outperforms krm in all regards

Hs0405 is just much better than krm and by15

[marsh seal]

by15 has better fire rate tho?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[marsh seal]

i mean then again that doesnt matter if you hit your shots first time

[bright cloud]

But what does it matter when you can consistently 1 tap on hs0405

[sweet flower]

true

[marsh seal]

exactly

[bright cloud]

And and also hs0405 has much much more consistennt 1 tap

By15 needs to hit head

[marsh seal]

ima be running some alcatraz games, and im probably gonna run qq9/jak12 with a one tap shotgun

so i was tryna decide between hs0405, krm, or BY15

[bright cloud]

Try tec9 its only smg you need in br

[marsh seal]

wouldnt the high firerate from mac10 or qq9 benefit more?

also doesnt striker 45 outperform tec9?

[bright cloud]

Nope

[bright cloud]

You are missing point. BURST tec9

[marsh seal]

burst??

[bright cloud]

Yes

Best smg in br

Burst tec9

[marsh seal]

u got the gunsmith for it?

[dusty heart]

It does not

[bright cloud]

Burst fire repeater muzzle
Striker foregrip
Fast extended mag
5mw laser
Taskforce barrel

[dusty heart]

Krm for hip fire, hso for ads

[marsh seal]

how about for ADS in?

[dusty heart]

Or by15 slugs for ads

[marsh seal]

jak12 for ads in though?

[bright cloud]

Hs0 is just best shotgun for everytging

[dusty heart]

Jak for hip fire as well

[marsh seal]

🙏 thank you

[bright cloud]

?

[marsh seal]

jak for hipfire???? i usually only run it for ads in bc its a beast with the fire rate at close range

[bright cloud]

Wait a minute you are aware we are talking abozt br rn

[dusty heart]

Oh br

[marsh seal]

yuh BR

[bright cloud]

Yes

[dusty heart]

Krm is still good for hipfire

[bright cloud]

Hs0405>>krm/by15

[dusty heart]

But can’t one tap full armor

[bright cloud]

In br

[bright cloud]

Yeah which is why hs0 is best sg in br

[dusty heart]

Yeah it’s the only thing I main with rytec or lk in br

[marsh seal]

why 5mw laser instead of aim assist laser? also striker foregrip why not run airborne elastic wrap?

[narrow glen]

@marsh seal, 20 Server Rank

[marsh seal]

also the range on it is insanely horrible 😭

[dusty heart]

You might as well hipfire close range no, the ads spread is as similar as the hipfire spread

Also striker outperforms jak for hipfire

For auto shotguns in general

[bright cloud]

Cuz smgs are supposed to be hipfired in br

[dusty heart]

Just the reload time is ass

[bright cloud]

So movement speed/hipfire spread>ads speed/ads spread on smgs in br@marsh seal

[bright cloud]

Not really. It still kills faster than all smgs(except one but that one has all other attributes bad)

[marsh seal]

thanks for the help

ima try running the tec9 and hs0405 togethe

[bright cloud]

Thats ultra aggresive option if you are only gonna play in prison ig. If i was you id get at least one mid range/long range weapom

[marsh seal]

im mainly playingprison

besides, im also running poltergeist so i can get close really quickly

[bright cloud]

Oh well

[shadow hound]

Ngl I'm using mp builds for alcatraz

[somber tinsel]

🗿

[native canopy]

By15 build?

[bright cloud]

Br or mp

[native canopy]

Mp

Grinding damascus

[dusty heart]

You want a slugs build or normal, slugs is full body one tap to 20m

[native canopy]

Any

Il just be doing close range kills

[somber tinsel]

slugs
no stock
ext barrel
maurader
1mW laser

[bright cloud]

Slugs
Marauder suppresor
Extended barrel
No stock
Tactical laser

[shut haven]

Is there any way my machine pistol loadout can get better? VOD 35 mm short, FB Stabilizer, lightweight trigger, 7.62 gorenko 40 round mag, and sleight of hand

[hoary flare]

owc laser

[rich arch]

What's the worst gun that you had to grind for Damascus?

[hoary flare]

smr

[rich arch]

Ohhh

[hoary flare]

fhj, thumpie and d13 is alright

smr has a slow pullout time and unguided rockets

[viscid belfry]

d13 shit too

[hoary flare]

no it isnt

youre not using it right

[shadow hound]

@bright cloud type19 dmr gunsmith

[twilit fractal]

Anyone got a jak 12 build for mp?

[viscid belfry]

idc now bc i alr got

[night minnow]

whats a good stable build for zrg in br

i did rtc compensator, owc marksman, rtc steady, bipod, and gran tape cuase it gives highest control and accuracy

[viscid belfry]

bad

[dim egret]

You gotta learn tomahawk man

[viscid belfry]

idk

[hoary flare]

marauder silencer
extended light barrel
25 round drum
5MW laser
speed up kill??

[stray rapids]

Gave up the krm?

[ruby iris]

Wae

[stray rapids]

[hoary flare]

stf delay tho

[stray rapids]

Lk or mg42 for long range

[hoary flare]

slower stf may kill

eh true

ig

[ruby iris]

I like that

It's very nice

Cuz i cant be bothered to stf cancel

[hoary flare]

same

lamo

ok i go exams bye

[ruby iris]

I dont practice it so

[loud falcon]

chat is chicom washed

[twilit fractal]

Jno

[narrow glen]

@twilit fractal, 37 Server Rank

[stray rapids]

Become lk main

[twilit fractal]

Hmm

[twilit fractal]

25 round drum????

[stray rapids]

Become lk main

[opaque maple]

I need a smg build i cant find a good smg

[stray rapids]

Integ supp
No stock
Rds
Mag B
Gran
Smg lk24

[stray rapids]

I saw

[hoary flare]

yeah

[tawny walrus]

12 gauge after all.

[mellow harbor]

good striker 45 build?

[marsh anvil]

😐

[mellow harbor]

dont judge me for using non meta weapons

[marsh anvil]

I did not

[hoary flare]

300 barrel
45r mag
fss guardian
mono
tac laser

[young shale]

I was kinda goofy on the build lmk any changes?

[marsh anvil]

Bro looks like an smg

[ocean narwhal]

id use lesther grip instead

[marsh anvil]

Granular grip better

[ocean narwhal]

no need for bsa when the effective range is like 6m

[marsh anvil]

Ohh yeah true

My bad

[ocean narwhal]

9.8m*

[ocean narwhal]

bro uses anything that isnt an actual gun

[stray rapids]

All talk like bro

[marsh anvil]

Bro u know why does mg 42 and machine pistol has such fast ttk?

[stray rapids]

Should 1v1 to walk the talk🗣️🗣️

[marsh anvil]

Aight

[ocean narwhal]

they dont have fast ttk

[stray rapids]

If u don't nuke u lose

[marsh anvil]

They do

[ocean narwhal]

🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[ocean narwhal]

they dont

check stats

[marsh anvil]

Bro they are best gun rn

[stray rapids]

Not fastest ttk

[marsh anvil]

Cause

[ocean narwhal]

are u acting dumb or actually dumb

[hoary flare]

rpm

[stray rapids]

See oden or smth

[marsh anvil]

I found out why the guns mg42 and machine pistol has so fast ttk.it is because guns in vanguard had very fast ttk so they added the guns to codm without adjusting and now the gun has fast ttk as the gun in vanguard

[stray rapids]

Did u make it up

[ocean narwhal]

bro mg has like 350ms ttk

[stray rapids]

Noh

It's actually very fast

[marsh anvil]

Its an theory

I made the theory

[stray rapids]

I think mg inf is faster than lk 4 tap

[marsh anvil]

U can read it

[hoary flare]

not really

[stray rapids]

I see

[ocean narwhal]

236 295 354

[young shale]

Other thant that nun else?

[stray rapids]

Including multipliers

[ocean narwhal]

yeah the rest are good

[ocean narwhal]

no

[stray rapids]

With multi ttk very good

[young shale]

Thats why vanguard is the most hated cod

[hoary flare]

wha

[young shale]

👍

[ocean narwhal]

actl whats the potential on mg

[stray rapids]

3/5 long range

[ocean narwhal]

cant 4 tap first range

[stray rapids]

I forgot what range

But faster than lk

[ocean narwhal]

5/5 second range for 5stk

[stray rapids]

13mm or nah

[marsh anvil]

True

[ocean narwhal]

ya 13mm

[stray rapids]

@strong monolith is the math mathing

[ocean narwhal]

19dmg 1.1x

[marsh anvil]

No

[ocean narwhal]

second range

[stray rapids]

3/5 no meh

[marsh anvil]

Did u guys read tht? No right

[ocean narwhal]

he pinged a smartass not u

[marsh anvil]

I'm dumb ass

[stray rapids]

Ya 3/5

Nus

@ocean narwhal

[marsh anvil]

@ocean narwhal be my friend

[stray rapids]

I RMB I see the ttk I realised lk days are nunbered

[ocean narwhal]

3/6 for 6stk last range

5/5 second range for 5stk

[stray rapids]

Mg fast rof so supposedly easier to hit upper body

[stray rapids]

3/5 second

20.9x3 19x2

[ocean narwhal]

oh ya

[marsh anvil]

@ocean narwhal be my friend please

[stray rapids]

He don't friend anyone

[ocean narwhal]

eh can u shut up

fucking squeaker

[marsh anvil]

Sad

[stray rapids]

Yah

[marsh anvil]

😭😭

[stray rapids]

U check his friend list all comp players

[ocean narwhal]

mg more broken than i thought

[stray rapids]

Ya

[ocean narwhal]

i didnt even bother checking multi potentials

[stray rapids]

Only thing lk can beat mg is recoil

Gets clapped everywhere else

Worse mag worse penetration worse ttk worse rof

[ocean narwhal]

so mg kids are worse than i thought

[viral stone]

Mg is nothing just sit and spam

[stray rapids]

Perhaps

[marsh anvil]

Ya

[ocean narwhal]

imagine going negative with that

cant be me

[marsh anvil]

Yaa

[stray rapids]

So I put up a very valiant fight

Jn I wallbang the dude

[marsh anvil]

It would be @stray rapids

[stray rapids]

But 250r with no fmj is like 5 damage

[ocean narwhal]

stop pinging me kid

[stray rapids]

Kid I use lk

[ocean narwhal]

mf pinging me every fucking message

[marsh anvil]

Huh

[stray rapids]

I'm better🗣️

[ocean narwhal]

least annoying squeaker

[marsh anvil]

No ig

[stray rapids]

Wrong person to bully

[ocean narwhal]

if u want to talk who is better go clap @twilit fractal first

[stray rapids]

Bully caito

[ocean narwhal]

he is the level 0 challenge

[hoary flare]

whats happening again

[ocean narwhal]

some squeaker pinging me every 6 seconds

[stray rapids]

He is the boss u beat 50 times the first time u play

[hoary flare]

i see

regular mg42 hater

[ocean narwhal]

i saw some idiot with diamond mg in this server

[stray rapids]

We just see mg the way it is🗣️

[hoary flare]

is that me

[ocean narwhal]

ong

[stray rapids]

Chibai stop pinging

[hoary flare]

cuz i do have one

[ocean narwhal]

no it was some rookie mf

[stray rapids]

Jk

[ocean narwhal]

@stray rapids @stray rapids @stray rapids

[hoary flare]

i see

[stray rapids]

U do not want this fight

[ocean narwhal]

@stray rapids

[hoary flare]

hear me out

[ocean narwhal]

trash build u wasted an attachment with rds

[hoary flare]

G36 doesnt need rds

[stray rapids]

I angry now ah

[stray rapids]

Holger

[hoary flare]

G36K

[stray rapids]

No rds maybe if ur enemy sucks

[hoary flare]

not the other G36

[stray rapids]

What

[ocean narwhal]

better

[hoary flare]

uh

holger and LK are G36

[stray rapids]

Just call them holger and lk

[hoary flare]

idk lol

[stray rapids]

Confuse people for no reason

[ocean narwhal]

frfr

[hoary flare]

im not a fan of using fictional name for real guns

[ocean narwhal]

in not a fan of gun nerds calling game content some other goofus irl name that nobody gives a shit about

[stray rapids]

😭😭

[hoary flare]

zamn gurl

[stray rapids]

Have u tried the lvoac main ar build🤓

[ocean narwhal]

shut up ill cook u for dinner

[stray rapids]

Stupid duck

[hoary flare]

duck rice 🤤

[stray rapids]

Middle finger

[stray rapids]

Try Grau main ar

[ocean narwhal]

no

[stray rapids]

Alot of people like it

Scared

[ocean narwhal]

what grau

[marsh anvil]

Grau trash

[stray rapids]

Abstract art