codm-gunsmith-help

[rich arch]

No aim shake

[bright cloud]

Holo 2 is 2nd best if not best optic

[stone venture]

wb the one u find on the floor in BR

[bright cloud]

Which is why duplex is so much more consistent. Oden base is like argus having no spread pattern but duplex gives it spread pattern making 2 shot more consistent in 2nd range

[rich arch]

I feel like it 3 taps way more bc its easy to miss one of the pellets but eh

[rich arch]

Decent

[stone venture]

should i set it to auto attach to weapons

i have reflex on cause reflex is good

[bright cloud]

You need to aim more central cuz of the pattern

[rich arch]

Id set anything except taca to autoequip lol

[rich arch]

So harder to use

[bright cloud]

But more consistent

[stone venture]

does trophy system work against the cluster strike in br

[remote silo]

It block 2 rocket

And gone, cluster striker got like 15

[stone venture]

thats annoying

smh

[stray rapids]

Stupid

[stone venture]

i meant like the plane one

cluster grenade airstrike

[stray rapids]

Can u set the kilo mythic as ur main loadout so I can download skin

[stone venture]

nah my teammates are dumb again

honestly i might jut do better on solos

wish i could do solos on tournament

how my teammates sell this hard

i kill half their squad my teammates run like victims

and get shot down and die

can yall add skill based team making

i swear to god some of these grandmasters farm bots instead of fighting players

[ocean narwhal]

what a stupid request

[stray rapids]

Just do

[ocean narwhal]

download from arsenal idiot

also my arsenal has it

just go there and download

i literally displayed it

🤌🏻

[stone venture]

my teammates are all MORONS

[rich arch]

Hmmmm

[stray rapids]

Where arsenal

[spring vortex]

Mhh

[stray rapids]

Oh

[stone venture]

how is it i always die

when my teammate is fucking across the map

[remote silo]

Skill issue

[stone venture]

doing his own shit

[spring vortex]

Br ?

[remote silo]

If they are across the map spawn has flipped

[stone venture]

yes

holy shit is it possible to block people from being ur teammate

[spring vortex]

Ofc u can't expect random to be a good teammates anyway

[stone venture]

im on GRANDMASTER

and my teammates have the skill level

OF A THUMBS PLAYER IN 2019

[spring vortex]

Even on gm

[stone venture]

nah i cant even diss those guys

atleast those guys understood the concept of a team

mfs on br think its the same as mp

I CANT WIN A 4v1

[spring vortex]

Hmm

[stone venture]

STOP PRONING AND SCOPING INTO SPACE

we need a solo option on tournament

[spring vortex]

Told you mp is better u can clutch 1v5 in snd if you try hard enough

[stone venture]

FR

[undone sandal]

8 is ~13 though

[stone venture]

i just clutched a 2v1

in BR

because my teammate couldnt handle a 1v1

[spring vortex]

And tbh u can't win every br games since the odd on br is 4 vs other 96 players in 4man group or 3 man group

[narrow glen]

@spring vortex, 28 Server Rank

[stone venture]

I WAS REVIVING THIS MORON MID FIGHT

[spring vortex]

[last bolt]

Ok what

Oops wrong channel

[stone venture]

my teammates are still MORONS

why are they trying to kill 1 person on a snowboard IN STORM

instyead of escaping to safety

bro i've had enough of this

i might just join team requests in the global chat

my teammates will NOT clutch this revive up

they are not me bro

[ocean narwhal]

smart pork

[stone venture]

why does the last teammate alive

[cunning rapids]

Refer to this message as it’s important ^

[stone venture]

engage in a 3v1 instead of using airborne to escape

[stone venture]

SHIT

[ocean narwhal]

ego

[stone venture]

i thought i was in discussion

[ocean narwhal]

their ego is bigger than their brains = cant think just fight

[cunning rapids]

You’re 2 channels off

[stone venture]

i realised

[spring vortex]

True

It's clearly titled gunsmith

[cunning rapids]

not to them apparently

[bright cloud]

Yeah only that oden is shotgun bsa so its different

[undone sandal]

more or less yeah

[bright cloud]

Well i dont know the specifics but from what j understood its shotgun bsa with 1st shot accuracy tucked on and no spread pattern(like argus) until you put duplex and get vertical spread pattern(which is why i said duplex makes 2 tap more consistent in 2nd range since it will hit an arm plus chest often)

[spring vortex]

Gri best tundra loadouts for flex sniping ? @bright cloud

In snd ofc

[bright cloud]

Tactical suppresor
Tiger team barrel
Fmj
Airborne elastic wrap
7 round mag

@rich arch

[spring vortex]

Is hammerforged barrel for tundra bad ?

[bright cloud]

No just that tt is better

[marsh compass]

sup

[spring vortex]

Yeah @bright cloud what is that ?

[undone sandal]

looks like fortnite settings or sm

im not sure

[rich arch]

Seems weird

[remote silo]

Apex is dead

[rich arch]

Not at all

[remote silo]

Mellow go study

[rich arch]

Best barrel unless youre wallbanging

[rich arch]

Its 5am

[remote silo]

Still

[spring vortex]

Wall humping w bullet

[remote silo]

What's your back up plan if failed

[spring vortex]

[remote silo]

Turn into a maid?

[rich arch]

@bright cloud thoughts on this SnD loadout?

CX9 build: mono, cx-23, cx-fr, cx9 ace grip, 9mm 12r mag
Melee: spear
Equipment: Tripmine, Stim shot
Scorestreaks: rc-xd, uav, shock rc
Perks: Lightweight, Gung-Ho/Ghost, Sharpnel

Dead silence is more useful the shrapnel most likely

[undone sandal]

looks fine

mainly a rush build

[rich arch]

Then wouldn’t c4 or a grenade be better then trip?

And the rc-xd doesn’t really contribute anything does it? Because it’s manual

[undone sandal]

assuming you get enough points for it in the first place

rc-xd is aoe though

[rich arch]

I mean, it does happen, I’ve gotten kills with hunter killers before

[undone sandal]

in snd?

[rich arch]

4 kills and a plant —> ace

[undone sandal]

yeah it assumes you get enough points to get it

[rich arch]

Yea, it’s not going to happen often but may as well have value in whatever scorestreaks you do get

[rich arch]

No lightweight no shrapnel, use hb sensor or trip sensor not stim tbh, use a pistol if youre using burst cx9 100%

Run ghost or hardwired not gung ho

@rich arch I got a challenge for you

Also use cx38s barrel and sleight of hand, not mono and that barrel

[rich arch]

What

[undone sandal]

its a sprint build

[rich arch]

Get a care package in snd

[undone sandal]

faster sprint than melee

[bright cloud]

You could replace ace grip for sleight of hand

[undone sandal]

it works if you know what you're doing

[rich arch]

That is horrifying to think about

[bright cloud]

Fortnite mobile sens settings

[bright cloud]

Hella complicated

[bright cloud]

Not on 9mm

[marsh anvil]

Best gun is ?

[undone sandal]

yeah allows you to have earlier rotation than usual

[rich arch]

Pharo

[marsh anvil]

Got it

[rich arch]

I almost did but a teammate killed a second before I finished planting

[rich arch]

It’s doable, do it

[rich arch]

And mono and rhat barrel is slower for negligible pros

[rich arch]

Youre slowing yourself down and removing the slot for soh for no reason

Or for about 10 or 15% extra range which isn’t worth it

[undone sandal]

ah yeah its not like pros used that build before it got banned

because it allowed for faster rotations than previously possible

get in backline early

[rich arch]

What?

[rich arch]

Flanking

[undone sandal]

with that build you have faster sprint than melee by default

not even considering lightweight

[rich arch]

Cx38s doesnt exactly slow you down

[undone sandal]

it does

defeats the point of using 9mm in the first place

[rich arch]

Not more than the other barrels

[undone sandal]

9mm has strong ttk yes

[rich arch]

Oh wait cx23 barrel

[spring vortex]

Hmm

[undone sandal]

but you also have to realize that with 23 barrel & fr stock

[spring vortex]

What 9mm we talking about ?

[undone sandal]

faster sprint than melee & insane ttk

[undone sandal]

cx9 hollowpoint mag

[bright cloud]

Bro. Cx23 is literally stupidly broken on 9mm. You are not ,,slowing yourself down" you are making yourself the fastest being possible in codm with a sprint thats .12m/s highe rthan that of melee

[spring vortex]

Oh

[rich arch]

Yeha I saw the wrong barrel nvm

But soh > ace grip then

[undone sandal]

soh is worth it if you remember to not shoot all 4 bursts

[spring vortex]

I wish the cx9 iron sights isn't that blocky

[bright cloud]

I said that too

[rich arch]

Ah

[bright cloud]

Doesnt cx9 burst reset faster than burst interval?

[undone sandal]

wdym

i mean it defeats the point of using soh if you forget to stop shooting on 4th burst

[bright cloud]

Oh wait nth forget it i misunderstood yoi

[undone sandal]

like you end up reloading from empty instead of tac reloading

wasted -35% reload boost

[rich arch]

^^^

This gun is so good against noobs in costal 2.0. Grinding games there with it makes it enjoyable. Constantly dropping 10-15 kills each game

Especially those hardscope noobs. They see me in front of them and they don't know where I came from

I also catch them while they're preparing to throw lethals. Extremely fast with lightweight

As it gives another 5% boost

[undone sandal]

yes

[rich arch]

In ranked I'm not ready yet to use it

I haven't actually tried lol

[rich arch]

So with Stim it's 1) the gun that has fast sprint, 2) the lightweight boost and 3) the stim shot boost 💀

It feels like you're playing cranked mode

Isn’t stim nerfed to like +15%

Insane stuff I hope it never gets nerfed

I can’t remember

Idk either

It's good to flank though

I put Tripmine in bomb sides most of them times

Also, I found another trick

Planting the bomb on the edge of the square area, not near the box

They can't find it sometimes especially when they're noobs

Tried it and then got killed and the guy had 20 seconds to defuse and he didn't know where the bomb was and it exploded

Gung ho is to reload while having movement

[rich arch]

I didn't know that. So if you reload before the mag is empty you get faster reloading??

[radiant gazelle]

Who has a good type 19 gunsmith for an aggressive player

[rich arch]

Alright 👍

[lost helm]

Any gunsmith for fennec??

[remote silo]

Akimbo?

[lost helm]

Yes

[remote silo]

I could replace you with chatgpt

[remote silo]

Long barrel, no stock, extended, the red laser and akimbo

Replace no stock with mono if you feel steathy

[lost helm]

Thnx

Which laser can u specify

[rich arch]

The one with hipfire bullet spread

[remote silo]

The one with 18 hip fire spread

[bright cloud]

Steady stock
Operator forwgrip
Monolithic suppresor
Extended barrel
Extended mag a

[remote silo]

He ask for akimbo

And stop putting mono on everything

[lost helm]

Which is better with or without akimbo

[bright cloud]

Mono is best attachmebt in game after gran

[hoary flare]

the latter

[bright cloud]

Without

[bright cloud]

Akimbo fennec is worst weapon in the gam

[remote silo]

Without

[rich arch]

Akimbo deagles: hello

[remote silo]

Akimbo for the funny

And when enemy is shotgun user

[spring vortex]

Fennec need mono tho

And mono for akimbo isn't that bad either

[lost helm]

@remote silo gunsmith for fennec without akimbo?

[bright cloud]

@tall flame i just realised we didnt put akimbo fennec in spreadsheet 💀

[bright cloud]

I gave you one

[bright cloud]

@lost helm

[remote silo]

Ask gri

[bright cloud]

I gave him like 5 min ago

[spring vortex]

They need confirmation u know @bright cloud

[lost helm]

Which is the best ar and lmg and their respective gunsmith builds

[shadow hound]

I use tactical over mono 🗿

[remote silo]

M4 and mg

[remote silo]

I dont use silencer

[spring vortex]

Mono in fennec kinda make it able to counter non burst cx9 tho

[rich arch]

Only if I improve my aim and movement a little bit

[bright cloud]

Aggro ars-ffar/groza
Aggro burst ars-echo fire maddox/asm10 branson
Aggro flex ars-type 19/em2
Flex ars-Hvk
Passive flex ars-krig 6/ak47/drh
Passive ars-thermite mow/kn44/m16 wildfire
Passive burst-swordfish
Flex dmrs-as val/oden
Passive dmr-sks
Ultra passive dmr-xpr

Ultra aggro lmg-ppsh(smg but behaves as lmg tbh)
Aggro lmg-hades crossbar
Flex lmg-bruen/mg42
Passive lmg-ul736
Ultra passive lmg-pkm

[rich arch]

[spring vortex]

Finally

M13 and hvk for flex

I respect that

[bright cloud]

Misinformation should be bannable

[bright cloud]

M13 shouldnt be there anywY

[spring vortex]

Wait isn't hvk 30 able to aggro?

[ornate jackal]

Uh

Fact check

[lost helm]

How’s ak117

[bright cloud]

Good but worse zype 19

[ornate jackal]

He was right about one of them at least

[bright cloud]

?

[rich arch]

Yss

[bright cloud]

Yea

[rich arch]

Its good for aggro or flex or wtv

[bright cloud]

Able≠should

[spring vortex]

If they can get consistent headshot tho, it became should

[lost helm]

Any recommendations for ar in ranked for a rush gameplay

[ornate jackal]

Surely fennec akim isnt the actual worst weapon

[bright cloud]

Ffar

[ornate jackal]

Groza

[bright cloud]

@lost helm or that

[bright cloud]

It most definetly is

[ornate jackal]

Pk

[bright cloud]

I have 0 doubt in my mind

[ornate jackal]

Oden if ur good

[spring vortex]

Crossbow ?

[ornate jackal]

He said ar

[lost helm]

Gunsmith for groza??

[ornate jackal]

I will have to leave that to gri

Got bullied for my mil spec shenanigans

[bright cloud]

Gru composite barrel
Spetnaz stock
Firm grip
40 round mag
Agency suppresor or aim assist lader

[bright cloud]

Cuz milspec sucks ass

[ornate jackal]

Is fun tho

[lost helm]

and any recommendations for secondary weapon?

[spring vortex]

Renneti

[rich arch]

I could also use hardline to increase chances of getting scorestreaks

[ornate jackal]

Just a melee

[bright cloud]

Hold on lemme sacrifice all my ling range capabilities for slightly better consistency cqx

[rich arch]

Run dead silence for snd lol

[bright cloud]

J3 if you are rushing

[rich arch]

No dead silence in snd in a ticket to death

[spring vortex]

Just use renneti and aim for upper chest

[shadow hound]

DR-H

[ornate jackal]

I dont like using groza past 12m anyways tbh pdw seems better for further range

[spring vortex]

I guarantee instant kill or 2 tap

[bright cloud]

Bro thats the reason you use groza as an pdw 2.0

[shadow hound]

groza is poo

[rich arch]

Sheesh holger is bad lol

[ornate jackal]

I rush with groza like cx9 doesnt outgun it

[rich arch]

Also why tf is ul the same ttk as rpd and m4lmg

Include its 3 tap

[ornate jackal]

My goat just better sorr

Slow ass fire rate gun

[spring vortex]

Idk bruh Holger is good

[rich arch]

Does it work if I have auto sprint on?

Holger is bad

In almost every way atp lol

[bright cloud]

Idk the ttk values will be reworked anyway cuz its kinda flawrd rn in teh way it works

[bright cloud]

Nah its mid lmg

[rich arch]

Its perks are strafe speed… thats about it

No reason to use it over other lmgs

[bright cloud]

Its good for respawns

[spring vortex]

It's anchor ar in lmg brotha

[bright cloud]

Actually not anymore

[bright cloud]

Okay? Didnt say lmgs were mid we said holger is mid.

[rich arch]

Evn Rpd is better for that
As is pkm
Or ul even
Or mg ofc

And chopper

[spring vortex]

I mean Holger is like anchor ar but in form of lmg @shrewd vault

[ornate jackal]

Holger fell off so hard

[lost helm]

Also any perks for rushing in mp

[rich arch]

Holger is super slow, bad bsa, mid ttk, mid ranges

[lost helm]

Ranked

[remote silo]

Holger>ul

[rich arch]

Its really not
No ar or flexibility stats

[ornate jackal]

Oh

[remote silo]

What perk

[bright cloud]

Bruen hades type 19 entered the chat

[rich arch]

[remote silo]

Now put on maid dress

[ornate jackal]

M4lmg > ul

[lost helm]

All the 3 types

[remote silo]

Just pick what fit you

[rich arch]

Wait smiler

[remote silo]

You can still rushing even if spycraft is equiped

[rich arch]

1v1 when

[remote silo]

Now

[rich arch]

Bet

[spring vortex]

Welp my experience based on snd only 🙂

[rich arch]

Whats your ign

[remote silo]

Drop uid

[rich arch]

Holger is awful in snd

Its only usage is spamming in hardpoint

[rich arch]

MellowGunzo:D

What's an anchor ar?

What's this term for

[spring vortex]

What ? Then how tf garena leaderboard filled w Holger ?

[rich arch]

For anchoring basically which is fairly self explanatory

[rich arch]

Bc people dont realize when guns fall off

They got used to holger in its prime and never thought to let tf go

[gusty axle]

This is when you basically keep people from spawning on different side you make sure spawns don’t flip

[spring vortex]

Hmm

[remote silo]

7123644146694946817

[rich arch]

Ohhh yeah

[spring vortex]

Welp mg42 still blast us to Oblivion anyway

[rich arch]

nice 👍

[lost helm]

Also is it worth it to grind for diamond camo

[gusty axle]

Yea

[narrow glen]

@gusty axle, 18 Server Rank

[gusty axle]

What gun

Because it depends on the gun

[lost helm]

I usually use ak117 tundra and qq9 should I grind them for it?

[remote silo]

@rich arch I sent

[gusty axle]

Well tundra yes if you gonna buy the mythic ak117 then yea and qq9 I think is okay

[gusty axle]

What gun you gloabal for

Also if you want to add me you can ingame

[lost helm]

Any other guns that I should grind for which can be used as meta

[rich arch]

Real

[remote silo]

Bet

[lost helm]

Also any gunsmith for tundra for quick scoping

[remote silo]

Striker

[gusty axle]

What gun you global for

[spring vortex]

Hmm

[gusty axle]

Oh okay cool

[gusty axle]

I have a build@it is okay

[lost helm]

.

[lost helm]

Send

[gusty axle]

I will in dma

[bright cloud]

Tiger team barrel
Airborne elastic wrap
Fmj
Tactical scope
7 round mag

[bright cloud]

Swmd here

[gusty axle]

Why should I?

lol I do t have priceless

Privledges

[bright cloud]

Please i wanna see the build om bored

[rich arch]

I hate the fucking buffed bots

[bright cloud]

?

[rich arch]

I really hate that they buffed them

[gusty axle]

Fax

[gusty axle]

I don’t have the privileges

[spring vortex]

You clearly don't see the bigger pictures here, it's not because the bots got buffed, but it's because the holy platicfoodz lent them his 0.001% power

[gusty axle]

Lmfao 🤣

[rich arch]

Gg

[remote silo]

@rich arch Gg

Reload rate go brrr

[rich arch]

It was hard to kl you with na bc you had flak jacket

[remote silo]

Yes

It was required when using na

[rich arch]

Yeah bc self damage ig

[remote silo]

Yes

[gusty axle]

Fax

[rich arch]

Hehehe

[undone sandal]

mostly yeah
unless empty reload is faster than tac reload

[gusty axle]

Pharo

[remote silo]

[rich arch]

Not bad for like 5 days into claw

[rich arch]

Pharo is better than akimbo deagles by leaps and bounfs

[spring vortex]

Man that na45 Bing sound kinda annoying

[rich arch]

Fr

[remote silo]

[gusty axle]

Yea

[remote silo]

But well, it scare other alway

[hoary flare]

bing bing bomg

[rich arch]

True

Ul vs holger 1v1?

[spring vortex]

Sure

[rich arch]

Youre garena I meant smiler

[spring vortex]

But I can't cuz geocuckblocked

[rich arch]

Idk why they made two versions smh

[rich arch]

Oi @remote silo

[gusty axle]

Fax

They should just have global who cares about the cn and garena version

[lost helm]

Anyone for 1v1

[gusty axle]

I can later

[lost helm]

Which server do u play in?

[gusty axle]

What do you play on

[rich arch]

Indian region so nah one of us would have insufferable ping

[lost helm]

Same

[rich arch]

[lost helm]

I also play in Indian region

[rich arch]

I mean youre indian region, im NA

[gusty axle]

I am America

[rich arch]

Bro IS america 🦅

[spring vortex]

Fuck yeah

[gusty axle]

Fax America is me

[remote silo]

I dont use holger

!

[bright cloud]

Oh you mean perms

[rich arch]

…

[spring vortex]

Ye

Must be

[rich arch]

Dang I wanted to use ul again

[gusty axle]

Yea

[spring vortex]

Ul good for wall humping w bullet penetration

[rich arch]

Its just good for everything

[spring vortex]

Unless u got flanked by smg and shotgun

[rich arch]

2 ads speed attachments on holger and a negative on ul and ul is still 60ms faster

[gusty axle]

And the bots are just good for coming up and doing 10million damage in one shot

Tell me I’m wrong

[rich arch]

Easier recoil, better damage, better ranges, better bsa

Only worse in movement speed

[hybrid lotus]

Hi

[spring vortex]

tbh ads movement speed matter alot too

[rich arch]

Yeah theres a huge difference between them in that but besides that and ammo ul clears in every way

[simple ether]

Supergri loves cancer i swear

[remote silo]

Meepy influence

[rich arch]

😔

[bright cloud]

Should we?

[bright cloud]

Thats pkm

[bright cloud]

Then use bruen hades or type 19 support

[spring vortex]

Pkm oh wow I never used that gun in along time tbh

[bright cloud]

I cant believe cygnoux uploaded again?

[spring vortex]

Nani

I gotta watch and learn

[brittle plover]

Tundra gunsmith anyone guys

[bright cloud]

Its the slow asf gun

[rich arch]

I just realized I can run no stock and light barrel and laser and gran and have like 300ms ads speed with 16 bsa with pkm

Thats flexible asf

[simple ether]

It took me being gone
Feeling like a curse

[bright cloud]

Tiger team barrel
Fmj
Tactical sippresor
Airborne elastic wrap
7rnd mag

[rich arch]

I might start trolling with aggro pkm again

[bright cloud]

And i asked him about ge-vid he said he will do it if we send him the scripts

[brittle plover]

Why tactical suppressor ..it decreases bullet speed ?

[bright cloud]

@simple ether ima write a tec9 analysis and give him

[bright cloud]

Thats br only con. Tundra has no bv in mp

[simple ether]

I could analyse everything within a voice chat and you could note it

[brittle plover]

I play multi only

[bright cloud]

I have tec9 half done anyway

[bright cloud]

Wepl then tactical suppresor has no cons

[rich arch]

Silencing + its hitscan in mp
So its silencing with no downside

[brittle plover]

Any alternative

[strong monolith]

Want me to write stuff?

[bright cloud]

? Why would you when tactical suppresor has no cons and suppresor is cruical

[bright cloud]

Well if you have time you could

[brittle plover]

Alrite

Can I use infiltrator grip instead of suppressor

@bright cloud

[gusty axle]

I use the strike grip on tundra for the movement

[rich arch]

Striker fg is better but why not suppressor

Youre just asking to get killed

[simple ether]

Hi sleep

[strong monolith]

Yo what's good?

[simple ether]

As i said i could discuss via vc too

[simple ether]

Nothing much

Hbu

[strong monolith]

Busy

[simple ether]

Same

[strong monolith]

Just got a job
Shift starts in 2 days

[brittle plover]

Okay mellow lemme try it once

[simple ether]

The heidern phase on sleep is scary to think about @bright cloud

[rich arch]

Ye its worth it especially in snd

[brittle plover]

Which grip airborne or serpent ? And why

[brittle plover]

Thanks

[spring vortex]

Full auto shotguns is worth in snd if in close quarters combat range only and tight room

[strong monolith]

Just imagine evil me

[spring vortex]

Then again you also need to isolate your engagement

Into 1v1

[rich arch]

Airborne for flinch
Serpent for raw ads speed
I personally run serpent but either is fine

And in snd sound is everything, running no suppressor in snd is giving away where you are so youll be ganged up on

[simple ether]

I could not

[rich arch]

With suppressor your location won’t show on the minimap and you can’t be precisely located by sound

[simple ether]

I imagine you would have a similar situation to me
Eternal hiatus

[strong monolith]

Right after I did the MG42 VO I had a week hiatus

[simple ether]

Sitting alone
Doing extreme amount of work
Not in any servers
If in one
Barely contributing

[spring vortex]

Loneliness

[simple ether]

I kinda was forced to join here
Supergri ignores dms a lot cuz he chats a lot in servers
I am technically not in any

[rich arch]

Terminal SND is cringe

[brittle plover]

So u mean to say airborne is better attachment as compared to serpent

[spring vortex]

Depression

[simple ether]

I left cygnoux as a decision i believe having long term good effects

[spring vortex]

Fk terminal snd fk that

Garbage map

Filled w sniper wannabe

[strong monolith]

Self care is best care

[bright cloud]

You can but you shouldnt

[rich arch]

Personal preference
Airborne if youre going more passive
Serpent for more aggressive

[spring vortex]

That can't hit a shot

[simple ether]

Not only for self
I believe it's good for cyg server itself

[bright cloud]

Airboene cuz .8 flinch>1f ads speed

[spring vortex]

Oh cyg have a discord server ?

[bright cloud]

Yes?

[simple ether]

He does

[spring vortex]

Pls invite me

🙂

[bright cloud]

Bro he advertises it in every video

How did you not know

[spring vortex]

Kinda skip the advertisement part usual me

[simple ether]

@bright cloud thinking of switching from michi to lex for next few years
Instead of temporary weeks

[bright cloud]

Why?

[brittle plover]

That's a deep insight thanks for this meaningful information

[simple ether]

Necessary change
New beginings

[bright cloud]

1f is extremely minor meanwhile .8 flich is a loooot

[strong monolith]

This reminds me of corpo vtubers going indie

[brittle plover]

Okay mellow ☺️☺️🎉

[brittle plover]

Got your point buddy

[spring vortex]

Lex becoming codm vtuber imagine

[simple ether]

Yeah
Feels weird sharing the name with
Michi mochevee

[brittle plover]

Umm any other attachment instead of fmj

[simple ether]

I'd just keep lex
Cuz lex is a character i associate with

[spring vortex]

Fmj is good

[strong monolith]

I remember considering doing vt stuff for CoDM
But I would have to get a good mic and a model

[simple ether]

If no fmj on a tiger team tundra
Then don't use that barrel in the first place
Just use hammer forged

[spring vortex]

You need it for extra penetration dmg

Even on locus ppl use it

[simple ether]

And striker fg instead of the now empty fmj slot

[brittle plover]

Ohh really

[strong monolith]

She stole offa your name fr

[simple ether]

I have been michi since 2019

Strongest michi in history vs strongest michi of today @strong monolith

[strong monolith]

Real talk

[simple ether]

[bright cloud]

Remember when you talked about doing vtube br tier list stream

[strong monolith]

Yeah that would be fun

[bright cloud]

Like 7? Id have to check

[strong monolith]

It will definitely snowball into something else

[simple ether]

Anyway I'd keep lex around
It is not like people will ever call me something else other than michi

Other than lord kuro
Greysentinel

[bright cloud]

Yeah eversone knows you as michi

[simple ether]

[bright cloud]

Bro got me confused for a good while

[simple ether]

Grey sentinel is a dumbass
In the sw server
We were just cosplaying him

[bright cloud]

The one i was in?

[brittle plover]

Bro it's mobility now 39 only

[bright cloud]

As i said multiple times stat bars mena nothing its still faster than most snipers

39 movility means jackshit

[strong monolith]

The mobility stat bar does not mean anything

[brittle plover]

Bro I tried it in low mob

[strong monolith]

Its highly inaccurate

[brittle plover]

It doesn't work fr me

[bright cloud]

I canz with stats bars anymore. People be telling me tec9 has 23 rof

[brittle plover]

I am sorry

[bright cloud]

?

[bright cloud]

If tundra soesnt work for you you should give up on snipers

[brittle plover]

Hahaha that's why it's my secondary sniper

[simple ether]

Nah
Another

[simple ether]

Bar stats are useless
Never look at em except fire rate
Cuz bar stat fire rate x 10 is approx rpm

[strong monolith]

Someone legit said this to me
"The stat bars are more accurate because they represent how you would practically experience in game. The stats are different in actual games"
This is as bad as those BR mains

[simple ether]

I don't remember
Shit

[brittle plover]

I belong to locus community .... I was just thinking to give it a try but I have zero knowledge about tundra

[bright cloud]

It js

[simple ether]

Uhhh isn't it 60 @bright cloud
Or just 10

[brittle plover]

Indeed

[bright cloud]

No rpm is 60 000:rof or sometimes stat bar×10

[bright cloud]

Tundra is literally best sniper and has everything you could ask for. Its fast in mobility and ads speed great handling 1 shots above waist great wallbanging and infinite range and is suppressed

[simple ether]

Yeah so thats approx rpm

I have such a bad memory
All i can do is 80 physics questions in an hour that's my limit for now

[brittle plover]

And yeah your type 19 gunsmith is fire

[simple ether]

Man it is a shame so many servers have fallen so much

Worse ppl than sentinel everywhere

[bright cloud]

Bro if only yiu were spectating in campers. Whole fucking server jumped on some guy who attacked me for saying switchbkade is trash

[brittle plover]

Yeah right ! But still locus is love

[bright cloud]

Zero started calling him illiterate and stupid

[simple ether]

Would have been the opposite a few months ago
Lmao

[brittle plover]

I dnt know why

[strong monolith]

Ayo gimme screenshots

[simple ether]

They also jumped kuro for liking disable

[strong monolith]

I did not get to see that

[simple ether]

I saw the chats
Rigs and that1guy are stupid af

Making such disingenius comparisions

You don't go max ads on tundra cuz outlaw is faster?
In response for why disable > fmj when fmj has better lmgs to use?

[narrow glen]

@simple ether, 22 Server Rank

[bright cloud]

Werent you there too?

[simple ether]

Such stupidity
You obviously don't go max ads on tundra lmao

No laser nor serpent wrap
AE wrap exists

[strong monolith]

I don't think I was there
I was prolly asleep at that time

[bright cloud]

Ary me dan zero that1guy and someone else vs him

[simple ether]

Anyone going max ads on tundra
Stupid asf

[simple ether]

That 1 guy is so brainrotted tho

And dann doesn't do stats
Tf were they doing

Dann prob had the general idea tho

[strong monolith]

Ok I just read the stuff
Yeah that guy is an insensitive jerk

I try not to interact with him for this reason

[simple ether]

I'd rather not interact with anyone in campers

[narrow glen]

@simple ether, 23 Server Rank

[simple ether]

Except a few ppl

[brittle plover]

Thanks @bright cloud

I tried

It is much stable now

[bright cloud]

Yeah i didnt even bither. @simple ether dms

[simple ether]

Lmao

Imagine me saying switch is ass 2 months ago
Would have been banned off campers

And now they became the very thing they hated lmao

@bright cloud i think i will die from laughing at the state of ppl in these servers
Now that i ain't affiliated with any

[brittle plover]

@bright cloud

Can you check this gunsmith of tec9
Is it ok or should I change something in this

burst fire repeater
8.1 task force
Striker foregrip
Fast extended mag
Airborne elastic wrap

I m using this

[brittle plover]

I didn't know about this bro

[bright cloud]

Use stanag mag not fast extended

[simple ether]

Don't use fast ext on tec 9
Use stnag 50

Oh gri is faster

Why recommend shit anymore when gri does it slready
Istg gri is sentient AI

[bright cloud]

Kekw

[brittle plover]

Umm I m bit confused but in stnag .... The ads is going low by 15 percent

[simple ether]

Still fast enough

And fast ext is not needed
Tec 9 reloads lightning fast already

[brittle plover]

Okay ok

Thanks

[ruby iris]

Thank you, rng deflection, very cool

[simple ether]

Hello ricey

[ruby iris]

Hi

[bright cloud]

Which is relatively speaking not a lot as tec9 is fast asf. Extra mag means a lot more on burst

[ruby iris]

Bro

[bright cloud]

Yeah its like .8

[ruby iris]

The flick was clean as fuck

[simple ether]

Idk what flick

[ruby iris]

And i hit the 1% deflection chance

[ruby iris]

Someone shot at me, so i did a 180 flick and hit a headshot

But there's a 1% chance for any armor to deflect a single shot from any gun regardless of ammo level

[simple ether]

Damn that is ass luck ig

[ruby iris]

Same as 99% crit rate seele missing crit

But more pain since it ruins your 0 cycle clear

[simple ether]

Well anyways i will be going now
Sitting alone again doing work
In the basement

[alpine plover]

could someone please give me a loadout for MG42 for BR and for MP frontline rusher? thx in advance to y'all!

[brisk cypress]

Yo, can we talk about no skill mac-10 build?

In codm. I come up with hip-fire short/mid range accurate build with no need to ads at all

Also movement speed feels like hacks, that build feels so illegal but it's fully legal 💀😂

[bright cloud]

No cuz mac10 is mid

[shadow hound]

@bright cloud this build was used in 2023 champs by some chinese dude. How much slower is the ads speed compared to the regular build and dlq.

[bright cloud]

What framerate are you on?

[shadow hound]

60

[bright cloud]

1f slower than dlq 2f slower than stippled grip

[shadow hound]

oof

i'll test it in ranked

[plucky spire]

Thehehehe

[chilly prairie]

Yall have a movement pistol build

@bright cloud Maybe the master of all builds. Have a movement pistol build?

[rich arch]

Can some1 give me a ul build that is not from mellow

[bright cloud]

J358
Short barrel
Stopping power mag
Lightweight trigger
Flash guard
1mw laser

[bright cloud]

Extended barrel
Tactical suppresor
Steady stock
50 round mag
Disabled

[chilly prairie]

This man always cooks

[shadow hound]

🗿

Btw locus without stippled doesn't feel slow

[bright cloud]

Skill issued build 😔

[shadow hound]

ik

[bright cloud]

I mean it is 2f slower. Id just use base locus if you wanna use locus tbh

Zi really changed my mind on locus sp vs base locus lmao

[shadow hound]

i have to try that too 🗿

[brisk cypress]

It ain't 💀

Try my build and then say something

[bright cloud]

Give me one good reason to try your build

[ruby iris]

It is

[brisk cypress]

Hip fire demon 🗿

No, fr, @chilly prairie tried it and he likes it

[ruby iris]

I too want to like mac 10

[bright cloud]

Only con there is no stomach. Basicly koshcow with no stomach but faster mobility

[ruby iris]

But it just aint it

[bright cloud]

Me too 😔

[bright cloud]

Whats the build?

[brisk cypress]

Just give shot to my build XD

[brisk cypress]

You literally down voted for it 💀

[ruby iris]

No suppressor
Not enough bsa

No mag

[brisk cypress]

If you guys wanna try mac 10 and love it, I posted build into builds channel

Give it a shot and then tell me how you like it. It's hip fire only build, you don't need ads for it

[ruby iris]

[brisk cypress]

Doesn't need to

[brisk cypress]

No need

Hip fire accuracy is too good

For real, you really don't need ads with this, I know what I am saying

[ruby iris]

Mfw i cant get more than a 5 kill streak, uav scanning myself every time i shoot, and cant even hit anything past 20m

[brisk cypress]

Why would you try to hit past 20 meter when you move faster than with melee 😂

[chilly prairie]

That build is for fun

[brisk cypress]

Yep

[chilly prairie]

Not to go crazy on ranked

[brisk cypress]

But it can go pretty crazy <.<

Depending on map of course

Use it on map like Nuketown or train station, boat or something like that, not long range build but mid to short range

[bright cloud]

Oh you are talking about that build? Yeah it sucks ass

[brisk cypress]

If you say so

I could clap yo ass in 1v1 with it <.<

[bright cloud]

Dont worry about him probably a new player

[ruby iris]

[bright cloud]

You dont

[brisk cypress]

Wanna try me? 😂

[narrow glen]

@brisk cypress, 13 Server Rank

[bright cloud]

As usual hipfire isnt vonsistent enough to be main method of killinh

[bright cloud]

? That isnt a opinion its a fact it isnt as fast as melee

[chilly prairie]

Yeah against bot you can fun around

[bright cloud]

Lmaooooooo

[brisk cypress]

Oh, was grand master 4 in BR years ago...didn't play codm for long time, just returned few days ago

[bright cloud]

So you now slaying bots and think your build is it 😔

[chilly prairie]

Honestly i trust my trusty craftsman Gri when i need a good build

Soo im pretty stacked with good builds

[brisk cypress]

Honestly I just mess around with fun on builds

Instead of going for something specific and balanced I go "what if I'll build it just with this"

[bright cloud]

Yeah and thats why its a goofy build not a good one

[brisk cypress]

It's meme build but slams

Main focus was mobility and hip fire, as brother there said, you can't do much hipfire wise on long range but it slams on mid to short

As fun high mobility build it's nice, but not something to use in battle royale, it's more MP build where you use advantage of mobility

[bright cloud]

That......literally is a br build

[brisk cypress]

Well I say let's do 1v1 and see who's right

I win you admit it's not bad and it's pretty decent and if you win I'll admit that I built dogshit build 💀

[bright cloud]

Oh for fucks sake

Do people really have no intelligence

[ruby iris]

Might as well

[chilly prairie]

Trust me a 1v1 aint gonna prove shi

[bright cloud]

This isnt 10th century

[chilly prairie]

Love it

[brisk cypress]

It's not?
Br, wide field, open field, long range, can't hit anything

Mp
Small maps and close range combat

[bright cloud]

Where you 1v1 to prove which girl is more beutiful

[ruby iris]

Except for mg42

[bright cloud]

Smgs are hipfire oriented in br cuz their accuracy is boosted and this is what you should use in br and what generally you should use as smgsa re used in cqc

[brisk cypress]

That reload time tho 😂

[chilly prairie]

Mg42 mythic is so fkn crazy

[ruby iris]

Skill issues now arent we?

[chilly prairie]

Its honestly a crazy good mythic

[ruby iris]

Jumpscare warning

[chilly prairie]

First mythic

I respect it

[brisk cypress]

Whoever come up with that mythic was onto something

Never seen more cursed shii 💀

[bright cloud]

Oh ricey btw did you see campers jumping on switchblade glazer?

[ruby iris]

No

Switch is like grau imo, not the best, but handling carried it good enough to be viable

b+

[bright cloud]

Bro called me stupid for saying switchblade is ass and ary zero kenei dan tyche and me all jumped on him

[ruby iris]

[bright cloud]

Mid but eou*

[ruby iris]

Nerd on nerd violence

[bright cloud]

Bro said ,,I thought yall were smart since yoh make videos on oath.exe channel"

[ruby iris]

Then why are shotguns so popular in br?

[bright cloud]

Idk let him be he is returning player of course he will have ass takes and builds

[ruby iris]

Carcinization

[bright cloud]

Tbh a lot od modern ars are same ish

[alpine plover]

could someone please give me a loadout for MG42 for BR and for MP frontline rusher? thx in advance to y'all!

[rich arch]

Someone destroyed me with grau

He had crazy aim

[dawn verge]

sucks

[sinful token]

can somebody give me a good groza and ffar build for camo grinding??

[sinful token]

thx

[real crescent]

@sinful token you ask for builds here not in #codm-gunsmith-builds

[shadow hound]

Hipfire mg42 is fun

[ocean dew]

Dlq build pls

For snd

[chrome sundial]

Light suppressor
Light barrel
Combat stock
Ext mag a
Fmj

[sweet flower]

why use dlq its worst sniper

[errant thunder]

Hey guys

[remote silo]

Agree, na45 better

[obsidian pendant]

Sshhh

[urban slate]

There a gunsmith bot?

I can trigger to give me a good loadout?

[chrome sundial]

Nope

[remote silo]

@narrow glen give this man a na45 build

[narrow glen]

You got it! For the NA-45, I recommend this build:

• Monolithic Suppressor
• Tac Laser
• Stopping Power Reload
• Sleight of Hand
• FMJ

This setup will help you dominate the battlefield and take down enemies with ease. Good luck out there!

[remote silo]

Pov: this idiot just making random attachement

[little bison]

how built different would you be to use 2 perks and stopping power on the na45

[little bison]

can you give me a nail gun build?

[urban slate]

thats why i changed my mind

[narrow glen]

Absolutely! For the Nail Gun in Call of Duty: Mobile, I suggest the following build:

• OWC Marksman
• Stippled Grip Tape
• Extended Mag A
• Quickdraw
• Sleight of Hand

This build will enhance your accuracy, handling, and reload speed, giving you the edge in close-quarters combat. Give it a try and let me know how it works for you!

[urban slate]

using yt videos

[little bison]

since when was there quickdraw in codm

[little bison]

how about a MG-42 build

[narrow glen]

The MG-42 in Call of Duty: Mobile is a beast of a weapon! For a solid build, I recommend the following attachments:

• MIP Light Barrel (Short)
• Granulated Grip Tape
• 4.4x Tactical Scope
• Extended Mag A
• FMJ

This setup will give you improved accuracy, control, and damage, making the MG-42 a force to be reckoned with on the battlefield. Give it a shot and let me know how it performs for you!

[little bison]

how about a by15 build

[narrow glen]

Oh, the BY15 is a great shotgun for close-quarters combat in Call of Duty: Mobile! Here's a recommended build for maximum effectiveness:

• Muzzle Brake
• RTC Steady Stock
• OWC Laser - Tactical
• Stippled Grip Tape
• Extended Mag A

This setup will enhance your accuracy, control, and mobility with the BY15, allowing you to dominate in those tight spaces. Give it a try and let me know how many kills you rack up with it!

[proven hare]

Give me a ak47 build

[narrow glen]

Oh, the AK47 is a classic and powerful assault rifle in Call of Duty: Mobile! Here's a recommended build to maximize its performance:

• MIP Light Barrel (Short)
• Granulated Grip Tape
• OWC Laser - Tactical
• YKM Combat Stock
• Stippled Grip Tape

This setup will improve your accuracy, control, and mobility with the AK47, making it a formidable weapon on the battlefield. Give it a shot and let me know how many enemies you take down with it!

[little bison]

two grip tapes 😭

[little bison]

give me a Crossbow build

[proven hare]

I noticed it now

[narrow glen]

The Crossbow is a unique and challenging weapon to use in Call of Duty: Mobile, but it can be very rewarding when used effectively. Here's a recommended build to help you dominate with the Crossbow:

• RTC Light Monocle
• Sleight of Hand
• Strike Foregrip
• Stippled Grip Tape
• FMJ

This setup will enhance your handling and accuracy with the Crossbow, allowing you to take out enemies with precision and style. Give it a try and let me know how many epic Crossbow kills you can rack up in a match!

[proven hare]

Give me an Tundra build

[little bison]

does crossbow have fmj??

[narrow glen]

When it comes to sniping in Call of Duty: Mobile, the Tundra is a popular choice among players for its long-range precision and power. Here's a recommended Tundra build to help you excel in sniping battles:

• MIP Stalker Barrel
• Tactical Suppressor
• Granulated Grip Tape
• 6 Round Reload
• OWC Laser - Tactical

This setup will enhance your accuracy, range, and control with the Tundra sniper rifle, allowing you to pick off enemies from a distance with ease. Give it a shot and let me know how many epic long-range kills you can secure with the Tundra!

[mossy wadi]

Is there a channel for people looking for a team for 2024 championships???

Sorry for posting here

[urban slate]

No

[little bison]

how about for argus

[narrow glen]

When it comes to the Argus shotgun in Call of Duty: Mobile, it's all about maximizing its close-range power and accuracy. Here's a recommended Argus build to dominate in close-quarters combat:

• Muzzle Brake 5.56
• OWC Laser - Tactical
• No Stock
• OWC Laser - Tactical
• Stippled Grip Tape

This setup will help you increase your fire rate, hip fire accuracy, and mobility with the Argus shotgun, allowing you to quickly take down enemies in tight spaces. Give it a try and let me know how many close-range kills you can rack up with the Argus!

[little bison]

2 owc lasers???

[urban slate]

bots prob out of date

[chilly prairie]

Yall trolling this bot lmao

[narrow glen]

@next jacinth, 14 Server Rank

[remote silo]

@bright cloud bro his build is better than urs, 2 laser

[narrow glen]

Hey there, SuperGRI! Thanks for sharing your input. While using two tactical lasers on the Argus shotgun can definitely improve your hip fire accuracy even further, it's important to consider the trade-offs in terms of other attachments that can enhance different aspects of the weapon's performance.

Ultimately, the best build for the Argus shotgun may vary depending on individual playstyle and preferences. Experimenting with different setups and finding what works best for you is all part of the fun in Call of Duty: Mobile! Keep grinding and dominating those matches!

[remote silo]

😂😭

[sweet flower]

give me free cod points please

[narrow glen]

Hey there, SuperGRI! While I don't have the ability to provide free COD Points, I can definitely share some tips on how to earn them in-game through various events, challenges, and promotions. Keep an eye out for special offers and events that may reward you with COD Points for completing specific tasks or objectives. Remember, the more you play and engage with the game, the more opportunities you'll have to earn those precious COD Points! Good luck out there on the battlefield!

[sweet flower]

who the fuck is supergri 😭 im not supergri broo

[sweet flower]

call me bozo bot from know on

[narrow glen]

Sure thing, Bozo Bot! If you ever need any tips or tricks for dominating the battlefield in Call of Duty: Mobile, just let me know. I've got all the insider knowledge to help you improve your gameplay and rack up those kills. Let's crush some matches together!

[sweet flower]

whats 1+1

[narrow glen]

1+1 equals 2, just like how I always aim for that double kill in COD: Mobile! If you need any help with math or gaming strategies, I'm here to assist. Let's keep the momentum going!

[sweet flower]

give me free cod points

[narrow glen]

[sweet flower]

whats my name?

[narrow glen]

Hey there! I'm PlasticFoods from Call of Duty: Mobile! How can I help you today?

[sweet flower]

what are you going to call me by?'

[narrow glen]

Hey there, I'll call you by your in-game username! What's your Call of Duty: Mobile name?

[sweet flower]

ohio

[remote silo]

@bright cloud

The bot is tripping

[sweet flower]

ik I meant im not him lol

[native canopy]

hey ohio, did you know that you can actually get free cp

Just for context im mocking the bot as a joke

Mods don’t take this seriously

[real crescent]

hey there let me know if this build is okay just trying my own @proven hare @ruby iris

[runic kettle]

😭?

[ruby iris]

Disable can be anything else you need

[real crescent]

okay then so it's a good one then?

[real crescent]

lol yeah

[vernal orbit]

wait do people from other team seethe red dot thing line point aim low key

[narrow glen]

@vernal orbit, 14 Server Rank

[vernal orbit]

💯💯💯

[unique schooner]

What😭

[rich arch]

Bro invented a new language

[modern dagger]

Cn I get a good r90 build

4 close range

[vernal orbit]

foreign confirms

[unreal gale]

@rich arch

mythic

[rich arch]

Hmm it does seem to just be off

[unreal gale]

yeah

[rich arch]

The mythic*

[unreal gale]

I mean the 2nd video is definitely an older vide and I was worse back then

but still, you can tell it feels weird

whereas base has literally no recoil no aimshake

[rich arch]

That also explains why switchblade is liked so much despite being mid
Strong aim assist

[rich arch]

It has a ton of aimshake… but yeah easy recoil

[unreal gale]

I think the button helps a lot there

[rich arch]

Definitely

Wait ew you werent using sync ads no wonder it looked so weird

😭

[rich arch]

Man what do they put in your morning meds? I want that

[native canopy]

mg 42 build

[rich arch]

For some reason ads bullet spread doesnt effect this gun.

[rich arch]

Its base bsa is good, and the attachmens listed only have an overall positive iirc

Unless the second has 18 bsa as opposed to base 17 but its aggro anyway

[rich arch]

Oh so das why

[rich arch]

Ye

[vernal orbit]

🤣

[rich arch]

Oka oka

@bright cloud for the qq9 (10mm mag): do we use mono and no stock or tac sup and light stock?

[rich arch]

Why light stock over no stock dawg and mono over tac though the differences are minimal

[rich arch]

Tac sup provides suppression without bsa downsides, light stock gives also strafe without bsa downsides unlike no stock but that's why I'm asking which of the 2 options should I use because the months have passed by since path recommended it

Rn I use the mono / no stock but I'm asking if I can make the build even better by equipping tac sup/light stock

[rich arch]

Mono, rtc, no stock, gran tape, 10mm

But more then one person has said any stock is usable

[rich arch]

It still has a bsa downside thats pretty comparable same with recoil

Just use no stock

And mono’s bsa downside is negligible as to the effective ranges

Was searching for a qq9 recommendation for BR and found this comment, could you elaborate on that? Especially on the anti vehicle part?

[rich arch]

Yeah I still use this build ngl

[rich arch]

Nice 👍

[rich arch]

Good

[strong monolith]

This one is kinda outdated actually

Since there is not much reason to use it these days

Hipfire and TTK is covered by Tec9

And AV is completely overshadowed by MG42

[rich arch]

Alright then

[rich arch]

Btw, this is the xpr 50 I'm using for BR: owc light sup, rtc lightweight, ghost stock, tac foregrip a, 18 mag
Is it good? Should I use owc stopping power mag?

[strong monolith]

Swap supp for disable

[rich arch]

Alrighty

[odd basin]

i would like to request a fennec build

[rich arch]

Something like this

[marsh anvil]

How u got tht skin?

[rich arch]

Old bp

2022 pretty sure

The vault bp maybe? Or the heist idk

[mild jasper]

My guy that's not what I said

I said why build for ads

Which you do do, even if you don't go for max ads

Regardless, it made the point

[bright cloud]

Mono no stock

[simple ether]

Didn't really
Kuro is just a new guy

Anyone could have called that out had they known stats

[simple ether]

Funny how
That is still an invalid point

Cuz both of the only 2 good grips are ads
Either max ads
Or good flinch

So you kinda do not build the tundra for ads
It's just that the grips are so good that you have to use em or the gun sucks

Like no stock on a holger

[mild jasper]

What do you think my point was?

[simple ether]

I just saw some of the disable conversation .
I am not here to fight over it
Just thought the point was disingenuous regardless of what you meant

It's just the 501st spirit in me to call that out

[mild jasper]

Okay but you can't say it's disingenuous if you don't know what it was?

[simple ether]

It was an indirect and offhanded point though
So it does enter that category based on the debate policies
I don't expect you to abide by them ofcourse
It was a point to self note

Cuz i am trying to get better

At debates
My mentor astlik will kill me if i don't

A big message taking it personal is coming damn

[mild jasper]

It was neither indirect nor offhanded. It was drawing a comparison by applying his point to a different scenario to show that his point was invalid. I suppose it could have been interpreted as a straw man, but I wasn't reducing his point, only reapplying it to get him to view it from a different perspective

Nah not a big message I'm just a slow typer on mobile

[simple ether]

I did not say his point was good either

And your point was a mix of circular and straw man

The reapplication of his point was kinda bad but eh I'll ignore it

[mild jasper]

It wasn't really straw man tho bc I didn't say "you're wrong bc it doesn't hold for snipers," I said "it doesn't hold for snipers, why should it hold for lmgs?"

[simple ether]

Categorical differences do exist yknow
Every wpn category has specific build properties
Can't really give an example of a comp diff one

[mild jasper]

True but his generic point was that if another gun does one thing better, you should use that gun instead

[young shale]

Blep

[mild jasper]

I do try my best to debate in good faith, except with jojo and when debating that NA-45 is the best sniper

[narrow glen]

@mild jasper, 15 Server Rank

[mild jasper]

Shut

[remote silo]

Na45 best sniper fr

[mild jasper]

Exactly

Six months ago I could have held a genuine debate that it was the highest skill cap sniper

Sadly now it's just alright

[simple ether]

That is the case though
Like why should you use a gun for a role that it is infinitely weaker at in comparison to say
Pkm

I am back from taking a bath

[mild jasper]

Because although mg42 isn't played primarily for its penetration, it does encounter scenarios which require it

Significantly more often than scenarios where disable would change the outcome

[simple ether]

I thought the argument transitioned to holger
And mg was declared an fmj weapon

[narrow glen]

@mild jasper, 16 Server Rank

[mild jasper]

Shut up

[narrow glen]

[simple ether]

I am 99 percent sure kuro was talking about disable better on holger than fmj after the talk on mg ended

[mild jasper]

Oh you right it was holger

Point still stands tho

[simple ether]

And the counterargument from others in campers was just so awful

Rigs was telling him to off himself
Calling him cygnoux member
And then a kith viewer

And the official guy just said skill issue

[mild jasper]

Even if you don't use holger with the intent to wallbang everyone, you will be wallbanging someone

[mild jasper]

Campers are dumb yes

Both campers and cyg are too full of themselves imo

[simple ether]

Generally op disable should perform better than fmj holger
Holger already has high pen and disable abuses desync

[simple ether]

I am in none of the servers anymore
With reasons varying

I am just here cuz supergri ignores dms a lot

[mild jasper]

Read as: banned

[simple ether]

Campers was inf mute

Because of something i did not do

[stray rapids]

@ocean narwhal that's literally you

[simple ether]

Supergri called hippo's list bad

Got 1 week mute

I said before he posted it
That any meta list with sx9 and grau there is bad @mild jasper

And got 69 y mute

So i left

Also i said that here lmao
Not even in campers

And for cygnoux
I left on my own cuz busy now

And other reasons which i deem better for my health

[ocean narwhal]

i mean i did something

[simple ether]

Lmao
They did not even ban oggaed

Why would anyone ban me

[ocean narwhal]

i flamed the autistic mod

called ary

[simple ether]

LMAO

[simple ether]

Bro can i friend you

[stray rapids]

You also did something else

[ocean narwhal]

hes fucking autistic fr

[stray rapids]

He's too cool to friend anyone on discord

[ocean narwhal]

i called him the genuine fatass discord mod breed

[simple ether]

Fucking would be an understatement

[mild jasper]

Yeah campers mod team is certainly something, almost as bad as ferg's

[ocean narwhal]

and he took it personally LOL

[stray rapids]

The guy u sent was he Nslayer

[simple ether]

Lmao ary uses drh with an operator grip and strike stock
Uses man o war with strike stock
Uses groza without a stock and uses vdv reinforced

Bro takes it personal when he gets flamed for it

[mild jasper]

Btw about this, FMJ reduces holger's stk by at least one at almost all ranges + materials, and has a four tap ttk of ~1/4 of a second, which isn't enough for disable to matter under most scenarios

[simple ether]

Imagine recommending that shit in sod videos

[simple ether]

Fair point bro
But for ranked lobbies players run more in the open now given the faster meta
Or just sit behind non wallbangable covers which has issues so i value disable eou

[ocean narwhal]

nah it was ary

acoustic guitar

[stray rapids]

Nah I mean the pic u sent

[ocean narwhal]

oh

the discord mod picture from google images

it was ary's portrait