codm-gunsmith-help

[sweet flower]

yep

hmmmm

[rich arch]

[sweet flower]

for pure aggressive sniping xpr

but for less pue aggressive sniping outlaw

[solar echo]

Outlaw solos xpr

@viral sandal rate my pdw in gunsmithing-builds

[rich arch]

Alright rate Rytec AMR for Multiplayer

[sweet flower]

best semi auto

I love it

[solar echo]

Rytec is good for not too aggressive sniping

[viral sandal]

i cant too dum

[sweet flower]

why operator?

[simple ether]

Xpr

[solar echo]

Uh

[sweet flower]

the recoil is easy and you wont be using it that far up

[solar echo]

Cuz yes

[sweet flower]

6/10 cuz mip laser useless lol

[solar echo]

I havent ever played with it

[simple ether]

Lol
Funny

[rich arch]

Do I need fmj on Rytec?

Or sleight of hand

[simple ether]

The wallbang on rytec kinda piss poor
I'd rather not wallbang at all with it

[solar echo]

Im updating my pdw build

[rich arch]

Hmmm

[solar echo]

Ill post it in a minute

[simple ether]

Mono,light ext,light stock,tac laser,sleight of hand is the only pdw build ppl should use
Gran for snd

[solar echo]

I like range

[sweet flower]

use gran and laser imo

[viral sandal]

wat abt rus

[simple ether]

Mono ext is max range except mono marksman which is trash

[simple ether]

Solid weapon

[viral sandal]

wat built

[simple ether]

Gran hurts strafe a lot
Like 0.2 m/s worth

[sweet flower]

ah I see

[simple ether]

Mono,short barrel or markman,no stock/skelle to ur preference,gran,38 round fast

Both barrels and stocks are solid and upto personal preference tbh

[viral sandal]

i use dwc light dwc marks dwc skel fast reload 50 round

is that good

[simple ether]

Owc light suppressor on a rus? Wtf
Never use light supp except on bolt action

Can use 50 rnd mag ig yeah

[viral sandal]

i hit nukes on that build dont shit on me ill cry

[simple ether]

Does not mean the build is good fam

[sweet flower]

ok so??

[simple ether]

Just use mono suppressor

[viral sandal]

good buily for rus

[sweet flower]

if someone nukes with na-45 does that mean its meta

[viral sandal]

tell me

[dusty heart]

Any suggestions other than tac fg a and tac laser

[sweet flower]

its not the range is ass and not silenced lmfao

[simple ether]

I already told the gold build bruh

[sweet flower]

mono+laser

[viral sandal]

i dont use it for ramge

[dusty heart]

Fuck outta here with mono

[viral sandal]

im into short range and rushing

[simple ether]

Bro just use disable
Use mono supp
And add tac laser

[sweet flower]

?

[simple ether]

Brainrot ?

[dusty heart]

Rather not make the gun slower than it already is

[sweet flower]

im not talking to u im talking to holgae build dumbas

[sweet flower]

lmfaoooo 💀

[simple ether]

What sort of analogy is this

[solar echo]

I put two new builds in the gunsmithing-builds thing

I need opinions

[viral sandal]

i dont use for range so wat can i use'

[dusty heart]

Besides mono screws the bsa

[sweet flower]

just user laser and then all the bad sides counteract and u get free 25% range

[simple ether]

The fact it is this slow is the reason the slow percent from mono is basically inconsequential to your play

[dusty heart]

Do yall even run holger

[sweet flower]

use cx9 and fennec thats what 💀

[simple ether]

1 point of bsa is doing soooooo much lmao
What a joke

[viral sandal]

sed but gimme build

[dusty heart]

Zzzz fuck off cuz you aren’t helping

[solar echo]

Look at my fennec build i posted

[sweet flower]

cx9: 38s,rds,FR stock,gran,50mag

[dusty heart]

I asked for a laser less build

[sweet flower]

yeah 1 point of bsa on good bsa is gonna do soo much

[simple ether]

Can't help those who don't want help

[sweet flower]

why?

u play snd?

[solar echo]

I still want opinions on my 2 builds ;-;

[simple ether]

Use fuckin red dot then on a mythic lmao or run 4 attachments
No other option

[sweet flower]

ur fennec on attachment????

[dusty heart]

I dislike laser and yh I run it on snd sometimes

[simple ether]

The bsa is already mid
1 point extra doesn't hurt

[sweet flower]

ur laser aint gonna get u killed

[solar echo]

Thats the best fennec build

[sweet flower]

I got 10k last sszn playing only snd and I use laser in my builds and nothing happened lmao

[dusty heart]

In snd yes, other modes most likely not

[sweet flower]

💀 no its not

[dusty heart]

With holger it’s diff

[simple ether]

Holger on snd
Holger isn't even that good anymore fam
And holger in snd with 500 ms ads time and mid bsa is a stupid move

[solar echo]

It is

[sweet flower]

in respawns pppl dont care they just rush in

[sweet flower]

it has one attachment dumass

[solar echo]

Fennec with a red dot sight and no oother attchments is goated

Just try iit before you sshit on it

[sweet flower]

xD if u dont want our help then why ask for help?

[sweet flower]

"how do you know murder is bad if you havent done it!1!1!1!!1"

[dusty heart]

Never asked for your opinion just a build, ik there’s better guns but I wanna run holger

[viral sandal]

wats gran and rds

[solar echo]

;-;

[sweet flower]

rds is red dot site and gran is granulated fore grip

[solar echo]

Honestly never let bro cook

[simple ether]

Then run 4 attachments lmao

Imagine running what is effectively pkm levels of ads time if not worse in snd

[sweet flower]

oh wait cx9 doesnt have gran go to foregrips and pick the one thats -11% bsa

[sweet flower]

bro put one attachment fennec shut up

[simple ether]

And complaining i don't want laser

[viral sandal]

theres np gran for grip

[sweet flower]

fr ive legit never used a laser that my opponent had in snd except if their sniping

[sweet flower]

go the foregrips and pick the one that reduces bsa

[dusty heart]

It works, I’ve won back to back games with just those 4 attachments, was wondering if there was a possible 5th

[viral sandal]

wats bsa

[solar echo]

No

[stray rapids]

I think tac FG a is the only option unless u wanna try out the better light barrel

[sweet flower]

it doesnt matter, if someone nukes with na-45 does it mean its good

[sweet flower]

bullet spread accuracy

[sweet flower]

no dont build holgae like a smg

[dusty heart]

I said it works, not it is good

[solar echo]

I love how my builds were removed for no reason

[dusty heart]

Which would that be

There’s 2

[simple ether]

There is not
Probably swap fmj out for disable
As holger already high wall pen

Just use rds for 5th attachement
Pisses ppl off when u kill them
Indirectly weakening them next round
And rds better than any non built in rds mythic visually so just run that

[viral sandal]

ok

[stray rapids]

Actually both look pretty shit lol damn

[sweet flower]

one that reduces bsa

[dusty heart]

Both do

One not so much

[simple ether]

Light barrel holger dogshit tho
Just run rds

[sweet flower]

good cuz bro reccomended 1 attachment fennec

[dusty heart]

I’ll try rds or tac fg a then

[solar echo]

Shut up

[dusty heart]

Anyways second issue, how tf do I fix this

[simple ether]

What

[dusty heart]

The scope is chonk

[simple ether]

Just reduce or increase the sight zoom setting in builds

There is a gear like icon
Click there and you can adjust scope zoom

[solar echo]

I need opinions on my fennec build i submitted

[dusty heart]

Can’t tell the difference

First pic is 100% and second is 0

[solar echo]

Skill issue

[dusty heart]

3rd inquiry

Best builds?

Not too sure about the cx9 and Grau build

[stray rapids]

The light stock equivalent on grau

[solar echo]

All are good in my opinion but i would rather use mono with switch

[narrow glen]

@solar echo, 21 Server Rank

[stray rapids]

No stock penalty is pretty heavy

[solar echo]

No stock feels alright

[stray rapids]

Idk cx9 but rest looks fine

[solar echo]

Cx9 is good

[stray rapids]

If I'm not wrong it's like 15% BSA penalty

[solar echo]

Its the mosst used gunsmith in legendary

[dusty heart]

Light stock gives less strafe tho

[solar echo]

Id say 9/10 for all of them besides switchblade

[stray rapids]

Ultimately both are good so u just use which u prefer

[solar echo]

Ill guve switchblade 8/10

[dusty heart]

Blackjack looks fun

[stray rapids]

U should try the amax

Rn I'm having fun with the standard build but with strike stock

[dusty heart]

Tried, feels a bit floaty like there’s no aim assist, will retry when I get the leggy

[stray rapids]

It looks good too

[stray rapids]

The clown leggy or smth?

Was it clown I forgot

[dusty heart]

The red themed one

Lava themed

[stray rapids]

There was 1 amax on free trial some time ago

Complete difference from the base

Unreal beams

[dusty heart]

Yeah it had the most annoying kill effect tho

[rich arch]

Is this mythic Rytec? Do you have realistic scope on?

[stray rapids]

Man I wish I had that skin

Felt like what I remember of kilo mythic

[sweet flower]

tac sup bozo

[shadow hound]

because it doesn't affect snipers scope

[sweet flower]

using tac sup on guns like grau and sx9 which have one of the worst ranges for their gun type should be illegal

[shadow hound]

try turning realistic scope on or off

[stray rapids]

Tac supp has always been optional for these guns

[shadow hound]

BSA 🤑

[sweet flower]

tac supp has always been bad lol

[stray rapids]

No?

[sweet flower]

oh no you miss one shot its the end of the world!1!!1!!

idk why you dont wanna boost range on grau whic hhas the worst range of an ar for free with mono

[shadow hound]

boost it with barrel

[sweet flower]

yes tell me a gun where tac sup>mono sup

idk why we even arguing about grau when its the worst ar lol

[sweet flower]

not enough for grau which has one of the worst range of an ar

@solar echo use operator instead of ranger fg on fennooc

[rich arch]

Why maybe he wants to play aggressively?

[sweet flower]

if he wants to play aggressive then bsa doesnt matter and he gets free range lmao

[dusty heart]

Yes realistic on

[rich arch]

Ofc it does as mono has ads penalty and on an aggressive gameplay he would like less ads time

[rich arch]

That's the issue I think, if you turn it off the scope will have less area covered

[sweet flower]

that ads penalty is equal to 1/2f on 60fps, if you can feel that your godly lol

[rich arch]

Hmm

[sweet flower]

and he has 60 mag which reduces his ads even more

[dusty heart]

I don’t like the penalties on mono,

So I use tac

Simple as that

[sweet flower]

1f of ads speed for 25% more range and silenced

💀 its legit free range for guns with the worst range in cod

[viscid belfry]

on what

[sweet flower]

grau

[rich arch]

It's an smg why would he need range though?

[viscid belfry]

eh tac supp better

[dusty heart]

I like the bsa boost and the snappy ads you get when choosing tac over mono,

[viscid belfry]

mono alr ruins the bsa on grau

and no stock too

[tawny walrus]

What’s the subject of talk?

[dusty heart]

Rather hit my shots than miss them at range

Even if they do no damage

[rich arch]

Mono or tac sup on Grau and sx9

[viscid belfry]

u wont miss at range

[sweet flower]

hes using no stock whats the point of caring abt bsa when its 20.3 which already sucks for flex ar

[viscid belfry]

tac supp on both

[dusty heart]

Mono increases that probability

[viscid belfry]

but u wont face someone who is too far

[tawny walrus]

Grau - tactical, SX9 - mono.

[sweet flower]

no

you gotta increase range on grau cuz it has the worst ranges of an ar for bsa dont use no stock lol use blackjack or XRK strikelit

[viscid belfry]

tac supp on both

[viscid belfry]

L ar then

[sweet flower]

it is L ar idk why ppl think its good

[rich arch]

Alright, mono on Grau. But why not tac sup on sx9 since you're going to be aggressive with it and you would like to boost a little bit more the ads time?

[tawny walrus]

You want to improve damage on SX9.

[viscid belfry]

most bc of mythic

[sweet flower]

true

[tawny walrus]

No need to care about BSA for SMG.

[viscid belfry]

they protect grau bc of mythic

[rich arch]

What about the ads penalty?

[viscid belfry]

but +10% range its nothing

[sweet flower]

if you care so much abt ads speed then use XRK which only has -8% damage range compared to nexus but only penalty is 10% ads speed which is less then nexus

[tawny walrus]

+15%*

[viscid belfry]

still

[sweet flower]

its free range tho

the bsa doesnt matter for sx9 as its a aggressive smg and is horrible at range so you get free range

[tawny walrus]

Only 7%.

[rich arch]

[sweet flower]

why use sx9 when ots9 lool

[viscid belfry]

eh i dont use sb so

[ruby iris]

Mythic skin

[rich arch]

Because someone bought the Mythic: 😭

[sweet flower]

lmfao 😭

[rich arch]

That's why: don't buy anything

[ruby iris]

Sunk cost fallacy is valid

[sweet flower]

good

[ruby iris]

That's why i kept using kn, despite glazing lk

[rich arch]

Jokes on us who buy these skins only to end up nerfed and forgotten

Alright so .. what about icr1

Can you guys describe that weapon?

[sweet flower]

viable off meta

[rich arch]

[sweet flower]

has infinite 4 shot

[rich arch]

Like kn I guess?

[rich arch]

Hbr too if I remember correctly?

[sweet flower]

and only difference between ttk in lk vs icr is 15ms

[sweet flower]

nope only 44 iirc

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

I bought kn leggy, so i kinda have to use it

[rich arch]

I'm trying to make some good off meta loadouts

[stray rapids]

Amax rahhh

[rich arch]

Tired of using the same guns again and again

[rich arch]

👀

Thoughts on asval

(not talking about 15 fmj ammo)

Base one!!

[sweet flower]

viable

rlly good if you can control recoil

[rich arch]

[tawny walrus]

Decent assault rifle with slow fire rate and easy to learn recoil. Great choice for new players.

[rich arch]

Sometimes you're wondering..: "Should I buy this legendary/mythic skin because I like it or because it's a meta gun"

[rich arch]

[sweet flower]

sx9 inconstitent af bruh

[rich arch]

[tawny walrus]

SX9 is overrated.

[rich arch]

://

[tawny walrus]

This build was used in the last championship.

[rich arch]

Well rip for those who got the mythic I guess

[tawny walrus]

I heard people don’t like mythic.

[rich arch]

It should be illegal to release a mythic skin and then make the gun completely useless

If nerfing it, at least make it decent

[dusty heart]

They don’t, the newer guns that have mythics are just released with better stats

[rich arch]

[dusty heart]

Krig,sx9 and Grau never got heavy nerfs yet still thrown under

Everyone’s using mg42 now

[rich arch]

So krig is still decent?

Because I like the skin but...

[dusty heart]

It is, there’s just better options

[rich arch]

Hmm

Fair enough then!!!!

Wanna try guessing what will the next mythic be?

[dusty heart]

Smrs

[rich arch]

[weary aurora]

really what was their reasonings for disliking the mythic, me personally I prefer it to the base and don’t have to think twice about it

[tawny walrus]

Sights might be the reason.

Anyway, I don’t like Switchblade starting from its release.

[bright cloud]

Switch: grau:

[dense musk]

Yo anyone got a good undead siege build?

[bright cloud]

Use uhm shorty and hdr. Attachments dont matter a lot just stack bsa on shorty and on hdr ads speed

[dense musk]

I’m doing solos unless u wana join

All theses randoms that join ain’t so good

[bright cloud]

I dont play zombies in the slightest

[dense musk]

Undead siege is better than norm zombies

Easier to lvl up guns

[bright cloud]

I played like total 5 matches of both

[dense musk]

I’m trying to grind for camp

Camo

Jus trying something different on my new acc

[ruby iris]

To people who hates the MG42:
||Be grateful we didn't get the MG3 instead||

[bright cloud]

Ricey would you consiter t19 drum mag a saw or an iar

[ruby iris]

Iar imo

Like m4lmg

[bright cloud]

Hmm fair ig

[ruby iris]

Same with s36 and ul736

[bright cloud]

I would call those saws

[ruby iris]

Saws imo are like minimis or hk21/23s

Mainly belt fed but can run on mags

[bright cloud]

Hmm

[rich arch]

[viscid belfry]

whats mg3

[dusty heart]

The demon of lmgs

[viscid belfry]

how it is

[arctic ore]

Anyone have a good gun loadout suggestion for Dingo (or a better recommendation) to be aggressive/hold down positions at the same time while not having to reload often. (do not want a mg42 loadout)

[solar echo]

Gunsmithing=nub

[last bolt]

Sinxe when i dont have img perms in this channel

For sure rookie ranks have img perms in codm gunsmith channel

[cunning rapids]

Check pinned message

^

[last bolt]

Good build? @haughty bluff

[bright cloud]

Hell no

[bright cloud]

?

[fervent hill]

Anyone got a good oden build ?

[sweet flower]

sx9 and grau were always bad lol except on release. krig is stil top 5 flex ar

[sweet flower]

decent ? no its top 5 44 meters 4 top and infinite 5 tap is decent now a days I guess lmfao

[dusty heart]

Can’t tell if you’re trolling or just an actual dumbass

Neither way I do not care

[sweet flower]

lmao grau and sx9 both suck rn

Grau has 23 meters of consistent 4 tap bc past that it becomes inconsistent as it goes below 50% due to needing 2/4 chest. Its mobility is bad for that 23 meters range as other smgs have same range but way better mobility. Grau has relatively mid ttk with 246ms in first and 328ms in second range being bad ttk. Only pro grau has is relativity easy recoil and large mag at 60 rounds. Also bsa is bad making performance at range even worse do you can push it to around 27.03 meters

only pro of con is zero recoil but every other stat is average or bad

[sweet flower]

then whyd you reply if you dont care?

and sx9 is inconcistent and has bad hitbox+ like 10 meters of base four shot which isnt even constitent if u hit lower body a few times

dumbass

[unkempt rampart]

what’s the best build for HVK-30

[last bolt]

I have to use full ammo on this bwcause it has little reserved ammo, i mean you could use disable

[sweet flower]

aggressive or passive?

[last bolt]

Large caliber ammo on hvk is super broken

[sweet flower]

your the dumbass here smh my head

[unkempt rampart]

aggressive

[fervent hill]

Thank you

[sweet flower]

ok large calibar,mono,mip light, ykm light stock,laser/gran

[last bolt]

How about Large caliber

[sweet flower]

lc is large calibater abbreviation

[last bolt]

Oh alr

[old reef]

Ykm light stock to add ads movement speed, rest to compensate range.

[fervent hill]

Ohh okay I’ll apply this much appreciated

[unkempt rampart]

dang i gotta grind for lc

[sweet flower]

wym

[narrow glen]

@sweet flower, 21 Server Rank

[unkempt rampart]

i need 50 headshots for lc

[sweet flower]

dam

[unkempt rampart]

i suck at headshots with AR’s

[sweet flower]

go to tdm shipment or killhouse is how I grind headshots

[sweet flower]

get in a bot lobby lol

[unkempt rampart]

yea imma do that

i usually work with snipers but they getting boring now

[sweet flower]

I see

[shadow hound]

trial loadout exists

[sweet flower]

oh yeabh

I just use trial loadouts as the 11th loadout lol

[last bolt]

Ah yes my fav weapon

[shadow hound]

same

i use it as a respawns loadout

rest is for snd, same loadouts but different nades

[sweet flower]

bro has na-45 mastered

[arctic ore]

Anyone have a good gun loadout suggestion for Dingo (or a better recommendation) to be aggressive/hold down positions at the same time while not having to reload often. (do not want a mg42 loadout)

[oak gulch]

Lk24 for ranked?

[rich arch]

XPR50 is fun in BR

Isn't it

[sweet flower]

xpr even more fun in mp

[bright cloud]

Krig is still good grau is just mid ar eady to use switchblade just sucks

[rich arch]

👀

[bright cloud]

1 tap to upper body till 37.5 meters and chest 1 shot past that

[rich arch]

!!!!!

[bright cloud]

Thats with mono which makes it same speed as outlaw tac suppresor kilo bolt action and spr

Aka 19 frames

[rich arch]

Interesting 🤔

[sweet flower]

I prefer rds over ranger

since base lk has so much 4 shot range

[bright cloud]

But it has slightly worse hitbox than outkaw but 3× faster rof

[rich arch]

You haven't talked about marksman rifles a lot

[bright cloud]

Fair

[rich arch]

How would you rate spr

[sweet flower]

worst marksmen

[bright cloud]

There isnt a lot to say argus(sg but plays as mr)>mk2>kilo>spr

[rich arch]

Yeah unfortunately it can never one tap belly

[sweet flower]

argus best marksmen

[bright cloud]

Whicu outkaw can till 15 meters

[rich arch]

Hmmm!!!!

Any ways to make spr kinda usable? Lol

[bright cloud]

I mean just bc its worst marksman doesnt mean its bad its still solid just that other 3 are better

[sweet flower]

argus ads speed so fast is messes uo my quick scoping

[rich arch]

Hmm I see

There are like 2 weapons that I have no idea about though..

[bright cloud]

Which ones?

[rich arch]

FR and FFAR

I think I haven't used them since their initial release

[bright cloud]

Its faster than any sniper. It might actually be fastest ads speed in the game

[rich arch]

That's cool because I would like to try a build with a scope to reminisce those MW2019 days

[bright cloud]

Ffar is an extremely good aggro ar. 30 meters 5 tao 52 meters 6 tao 10 meters semi consistent 4 tap really good option overall. Fr on other hand is wierd ar. Exceptional bsa but no rsnge to support it

[rich arch]

Hmmm

[rich arch]

Someone was using ots9 in BR

Its good in br

[sweet flower]

and in mp

[rich arch]

Yeah ig that sounded like only in br lol

[sweet flower]

fr

[rich arch]

Yeahh

Xd

Lol

[sweet flower]

xd

[rich arch]

When someone posts a build with a big text in #codm-gunsmith-builds but he forgets to include the photo

[native canopy]

As val build

Because mine was bit different

[oak gulch]

Thank you.

[viscid belfry]

15 round or ext mag?

[native canopy]

I found but this was what i was using before

If could make similar would be better

[rich arch]

Aumi build plz

@bright cloud someone was having an M16 (non burst ammo) and a Dingo build in BR 🤔

[viscid belfry]

alr so this one bad

use quick barrel, skelly stock, gran/rubber, ext mag, tac laser

[hoary flare]

aim for the upper body

let the recoil direct you to the head

[rich arch]

👀

[rich arch]

wtf is this shit

strike foregrip
rubberized grip
ranger stock

on a dmr purposed val that is low in recoil and flinch

[rich arch]

ext mag if you can‘t aim
15rd if you are familiar with sks and want to play a lighter sks

[oak gulch]

Mono
No stock
Tac laser
60rnd
Gran.

[rich arch]

since people build it like dmr with smg mobility

[rich arch]

marksman barrel
supp except light supp
mag
gran grip
rds/light stock/fmj

[native canopy]

Clan member build

[rich arch]

it is more like a long range AR after bsa nerfed

[native canopy]

Worked well for both of us

[rich arch]

it is too heavy for val

you should build it lighter as val spp already have insanely low recoil and hit flinch

plus, bsa is unnecessary for val unless you go for 35m+

but gran grip already improves it a lot

[viscid belfry]

if u want play with a similar gun to sks then use sks

val is good and fun with auto only

[rich arch]

sks is way too slow
1.88m/s ads movement speed if you want 0.2 flinch (or enjoy 1+ flinch stat)
150ms fire rate (fastest among dmrs)

but val got 188m/s fire rate, low recoil (almost non-exist), low visual flinch, and smg movement speed

[rich arch]

full auto sucks ass for being ar role or smg role
being AR, its first range is about 9m only for fast 4stk, meanwhile grau and t19 does simliar job in 20+m
being smg, we have fennec and qxr that fires in 50-60ms
Not to mention dmr val have improved bv (1300+m/s)

why bother using val full auto if these weapons are litterally better

it don‘t even have features to shine compare to other weapons

[hoary flare]

aumi?

[rich arch]

76 ms longer ttk yeesh

[arctic ore]

Anyone have a good gun loadout suggestion for Dingo (or a better recommendation) to be aggressive/hold down positions at the same time while not having to reload often. (do not want a mg42 loadout)

[rich arch]

Anyone have a good loadout for oden in ranked

[rich arch]

you are given with 3m/s more ads movement speed for that don‘t forget

it is 4.11m/s ads movement speed

insane for a dmr that shoots 30-40m

even snipers won‘t risk their ass to shoot 2stk strafers moving that fast

[rich arch]

Semi autos arent really viable outside of camping imo

But eh

[undone sandal]

val fmj is a dmr with smg mobility

sks has to be played slow bc of its flinch

val and t19 dmr conversions can be built for mobility

[rich arch]

Miss one shot and youre dead tho

And their ads speed isn’t exactly speedy

[undone sandal]

thats on you for using a dmr while having a skill issue

don't use a semi auto if you cant track and tap shoot at the same time

[rich arch]

Theres simply the fact thats its extremely punishing to miss and shockingly, most players will indeed miss fairly often

[undone sandal]

most players with common sense would not and should not use a dmr if they arent capable of using it

its like using a burst but you cant use it properly

thats on You

you Had the choice to not use it

[rich arch]

This is all completely irrelevant

[undone sandal]

this is very much relevant since you're bringing in misses

which is human error

[rich arch]

Yes and im not gonna compare gun stats to god aim players that never miss

So I’ll include that its punishing to miss

[undone sandal]

same type of people who would use dmrs

[rich arch]

Since thats simply a fact

[ornate jackal]

Aim doesnt factor in stats unless its bsa

[undone sandal]

because they are confident in their aim

they would absolutely not use a dmr

if they arent confident

i didnt even bring up missing shots here

[ornate jackal]

I pick up sks when im using smg in snd and im not confident

Also the grinders, and people who just use weapons cause they see others using it

[undone sandal]

i just said that val and t19 dmrs are a “more aggressive” sks

[rich arch]

Ik

[undone sandal]

you cant have the same thing on sks since you have to build it for flinch
making you really slow

[rich arch]

Just run toughness tbh

[undone sandal]

ah yeah running toughness while destroying my flinch with attachments is gonna solve it

people typically both toughness and flinch build on sks

[rich arch]

Ik that

[undone sandal]

val and t19 dmrs are just more mobile than sks

[dusty heart]

Why so pressed? I didn’t ask for your paragraph explaining literally nothing

[rich arch]

Outside of long range precision flinch isn’t too bad

[sweet flower]

cuz you think grau and sx9 arent bac

[undone sandal]

which is where sks is typically used

[rich arch]

Granted ive noticed that flinch isn’t hardly visible on 90 fov on phone
When I lowered my fov suddenly I noticed some flinch lol

[sweet flower]

bad* even though their some of the worst guns in the game

[sweet flower]

it explains why graus so bad lol

[rich arch]

Some of the worst guns in the game is a bit of an exaggeration

[dusty heart]

I’ll use whatever I want regardless

[undone sandal]

it is an exaggeration

[rich arch]

Yeee

[sweet flower]

tell me a smg worse then sx9

[rich arch]

@hoary flare

Pharo

[hoary flare]

SX9 is fine

[undone sandal]

pharo is decent

[rich arch]

Lol ty ty

[sweet flower]

its actually busted if you can control recoil

[ruby iris]

Ksp

[hoary flare]

M13?

[sweet flower]

no its not

[hoary flare]

yes it is

[rich arch]

Yeah but a different variant

Switchblade is at least decent

[hoary flare]

yeah

[rich arch]

Anyone can use it and do fine with jt

[ornate jackal]

This

[sweet flower]

nah the 4 shot inst constitent at all and theres 0.9 multipliers to lower bodys

[undone sandal]

ksp is just fucked

[ornate jackal]

I literally use m4lmg

[hoary flare]

blah blah blah

[rich arch]

Mx9:

[dusty heart]

They nerfed ksp so hard and forgot about it

[hoary flare]

i still gonna use sx9

[sweet flower]

💀

[ruby iris]

Mac 10 also

[dusty heart]

It was one of my fav broken weapons to use

[sweet flower]

use lc

[undone sandal]

true

[rich arch]

Mac10 just needs a bsa buff

Then itd be broken

[ornate jackal]

They make it faster with no real buff

[rich arch]

39 bsa:

[ornate jackal]

Like it doesnt even need speed

[rich arch]

Even with aa laser its 31

[hoary flare]

lmao

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

Oh right

[sweet flower]

idc what he uses but if he thinks grau (besides the 0 recoil) and sx9 are good guns hes just wrong

[hoary flare]

wait what

fr?

[rich arch]

Thats mac 10’s bsa

[rich arch]

Ty

[undone sandal]

mac is still like usable til 10m

[hoary flare]

oh nahhhh

[sweet flower]

just use a shotgun bruh

[undone sandal]

but after that its like ass

[ruby iris]

Grau and sx9 are fine, not the best, but viable

[rich arch]

I wondered why it had ok recoil and decent bullet speed and could hit

Then checked bsa

[undone sandal]

yeah why not just use a fennec

[sweet flower]

fr

[hoary flare]

hm

idk

[sweet flower]

shotguns op if you know how to use them

[hoary flare]

i dont like shot

[sweet flower]

why

[hoary flare]

i use thumbs

[sweet flower]

so

[hoary flare]

so all i ever use is autos

[undone sandal]

decent bullet speed is

[ruby iris]

Controversial, but grau > m16

[undone sandal]

800 or so

[hoary flare]

sort of?

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

With taskforce barrel postbuff

[sweet flower]

m16 wf hard recoil so maybe lol

[dusty heart]

Huh? Doesn’t m16 3 tap

[rich arch]

Outside of passive ye

[sweet flower]

im a thumbs player and I use tundra and got 18 hours with it last sszn

[undone sandal]

still pretty ass

[rich arch]

Only chest which isn’t realistic

[dusty heart]

Or was it nerfed and I didn’t notice

[sweet flower]

just because ur a thumbs player doesnt mean it limits ur guns

[hoary flare]

eeh

[rich arch]

For an smg its decent

[sweet flower]

except sks u cant use sks with thumbs lol

[ruby iris]

I meant wf m16

[dusty heart]

Oh in that case krig/kilo> m16

Krig can’t really do passive tho

[undone sandal]

doesnt mesn it limits your guns
sks is unusable

[rich arch]

Hello

[undone sandal]

crazy

[ruby iris]

Cucked hard

[hoary flare]

wild

[sweet flower]

m16 wf better for passive cuz infinitr 4 shot only if you can control recoil

[rich arch]

Well yeah besides passive bc it has infinite 4 tap

[ornate jackal]

It can

Same with uh pharo apparently

[sweet flower]

bruh ok ur good with sks but its generally pretty hard with tumbs

[hoary flare]

34 damage

[sweet flower]

yes pharo one burst cam

[dusty heart]

I’m done talking, you should do the same

[ornate jackal]

No pls dont give me flashbacks

[rich arch]

Yeha ik I just love to whip that out

[dusty heart]

Or else things will just repeat

[rich arch]

Wanna sks 1v1 again 👉👈

[undone sandal]

lmao

[sweet flower]

lol

[dusty heart]

1v1 sks with me fr

[rich arch]

Bet

[dusty heart]

I have the worst leggy for it

[ornate jackal]

U can use any weapon with thumbs lmaooo its just ur mobility suffers

[rich arch]

Particle splitter? I have the prestige and meteoric

Guess which one I use 🗿

[hoary flare]

deathlance?

[dusty heart]

Particle splitter prestige

[rich arch]

😭

Idk why they released that

[ornate jackal]

Maybe

[dusty heart]

I tried using it regardless I love it, just feels pain to aggro with

But to camp with it it’s nice

[dusty heart]

Na-45 probs most useless one yet

Another gun nerfed to shit and forgotten

Thankfully

I hated exploding at random in those terminal and crossfire matches

[rich arch]

Yeah even worse

equips meteoric

[dusty heart]

1v1 gotta wait, got friends inviting for wzm

[rich arch]

Oh aight

Just lmk whenever

[dusty heart]

Yh np

[celest garden]

whats the best gunsmith for mg42

[undone sandal]

MG42-1E2A4E8C9J

[celest garden]

thanks

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

I don't have common sense 💀
But monkey like me still manage to spam Val dmr to legendary in garena

Yes I tend to miss 2 shots for Val at most, but I just abused mobility to get the pass for it

[vale hinge]

Iirc t19 n val dmrs have slower rpm than sks

[undone sandal]

slower rof but are more mobile

cant do that with sks

[vale hinge]

True+has better flinch capabilities

[rich arch]

someone gimme a good loadout with oden

[vale hinge]

Also what is the bv for sks?

In mp

[strong monolith]

SKS doesn't have BV

Its hitscan

[vale hinge]

Kk

[stone venture]

what mg42 build do i use for br

[undone sandal]

@strong monolith

[stone venture]

nvm im building one rn

[rich arch]

colo supp
operator foregrip/ranger fg
gran grip
light stock
fmj/extended mag A/owc laser

[stone venture]

is this mg42 build good for brw
recoil boosterW
krausnick rapidw
disablew
vdd64mw
13mm anti material

vertical recoil isnt a problem and i can use a mod for fast ads

bruh the ads time isnt even that bad

lmao

[rich arch]

ｍａｋｅｓ　ｓｅｎｓｅ

[hoary flare]

duplex

[stone venture]

only problem is the ads accuracy

but its only a problem when sniping

and when im sniping im using a sniper

[rich arch]

ｄｌｑ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｓｕｐ　ｏｒ　ｎｏ

[rich arch]

Then just change grips with the one that only reduced vertical recoil

And use mono supp

But keep light stock

[rich arch]

Funni enough Wolves use same build in last sunday's master playoff, but they use 250rd round instead

[proven hare]

Why u typing Like this tho?

[hoary flare]

op grip

[rich arch]

Only explanation is people typing this mostly not 18 above

[proven hare]

Hah might be true

[fallen wind]

if there is akimbo mg42 with a recoil booster and a krausnick rapidw

i would be died

[stone venture]

its a ttk build

[proven hare]

*I would die

[fallen wind]

rambo skin uses akimbo chopper

but if call of duty upgraded him

he will use akimbo mg42

[rich arch]

Ariskia rounds huh
Just beware it drops to 230ms if you didn't hit chest in 2nd range

[fallen wind]

guys can you tell me how to get diamond camo

for my mg42 gun

[stone venture]

no

anti material

[rich arch]

Anti material harms ttk

It is not even "ttk build" it is just average

[stone venture]

it increases damage

[hoary flare]

120 matches

[stone venture]

i mean if i go with what ur saying

[hoary flare]

10 kills

[stone venture]

i'd just remove ammunition altogether

[fallen wind]

ok

[hoary flare]

150 for assault rifle, 120 for smg, sniper, mm, shotgun and lmgs, 80 for pistols

500 kills for melee

[stone venture]

no way you need only 500 kills for melee diamond

[rich arch]

It true

Easiest one to get

[stone venture]

if antimaterial actually harms ttk

then what imma do is switch up all my mg42 builds

[fallen wind]

guys i am so close to get the dlq gold

[undone sandal]

it doesn't

[bright cloud]

It makes it better lmao

[hoary flare]

which better

[bright cloud]

Replace gran for no stock

[hoary flare]

oh?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[hoary flare]

alr thx

so which better

[strong monolith]

2nd

[hoary flare]

summit mono or horizon tac

[fallen wind]

chopper + mg42 = ???

[narrow glen]

@fallen wind, 13 Server Rank

[fallen wind]

that will be a new gun

[tawny walrus]

To be fair, monolithic suppressor should increase bullet speed too.

[undone sandal]

suppressors should actually lower it

have barrels increase it

[tawny walrus]

Why? It wasn’t the case in MW19.

[undone sandal]

then it would be louder if it was travelling faster

[tawny walrus]

Oh, never mind - it actually doesn’t increase bullet speed in MW.

[stray rapids]

Dingo build?

[undone sandal]

steel rain supp barrel stock quickdraw
light mag

[tawny walrus]

Try mine.

[rich arch]

dlq gunsmith

[tawny walrus]

Light suppressor
Light barrel
Combat stock
FMJ
Extended mag A

[proven hare]

Dingo sucks?

[stray rapids]

Doesn't feel good

[proven hare]

What you mean by that?

[bright cloud]

Kind of yeah

[bright cloud]

Steel rain barrel suppresor stock and mag. Light mag is good too

[proven hare]

Ads? Recoil?

Damage?

[bright cloud]

Recoil especialy

[proven hare]

I never used dingo

[rich arch]

BROZA

[stray rapids]

I tried it a little

Can't shoot straight with it

[bright cloud]

Recoil is gae even i have to admit

[proven hare]

So worst lmg is dingo?

[stray rapids]

Hm

[tawny walrus]

Actually, not. I consider M4LMG the worst.

[bright cloud]

M4lmg

[bright cloud]

Its fujny that m4lmg is saw version of m4 but it also has conversion that turns it into ar so there are just 2 m4s

[tawny walrus]

Yeah, but AR looks more pleasant and has better reload animations.

[proven hare]

Fr Bro?

[swift abyss]

yes

pkm used to be crazy nasty bc of the egregious aimshake

few patch notes later and it basically has no aimshake and is insanely good now

[stray rapids]

I enjoy m4lmg more than dingo 😬

[hoary flare]

dingo's viable

[rich arch]

wait what

i suppose higher fire rate with same multi + damage=better ttk

[bright cloud]

It isnt same multi+damage

[ornate jackal]

?

[ornate jackal]

In terms of mp viability wouldnt it be like
Mg42, ul, holger, bruen, pkm, hades, chopper, s36, m4lmg, then dingo

[bright cloud]

Why the hell is holger so high move it doen. Also s36 band pkm buffed move em up

[ornate jackal]

What was s36 buff

[bright cloud]

Multis

[ornate jackal]

Holger i put so high because it isnt as slow as the others, with spammable mag, good recoil, good reload speed

[bright cloud]

And damage

[ornate jackal]

So u agreed that dingo still bottom

[bright cloud]

Hades and bruen are just better

[ornate jackal]

Why did i forget rpd lmaooo

[bright cloud]

No its m4

[ornate jackal]

😔

Thats crazy im going from using the worst to the best lmg

[bright cloud]

Its just slow while having nothing to compensate the slowness with

[ornate jackal]

Idk i feel like dingo recoil pattern just so janky

[native canopy]

People change

I went from using icr to hvk,kilo,asval,drh and tundra

Im still using icr but not alot

[rich arch]

Krm gunsmith

[ornate jackal]

Ye i think im gonna remove my icr loadout idk

It seems like t19 lmg conversion better

[native canopy]

Im only using for lb

[rich arch]

which kilo

[native canopy]

141

[last bolt]

KSP is shit tbh

[rich arch]

ah alr

[rich arch]

OH WOW I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW

[last bolt]

Like once they nerfed it it became dogwater no joke

[native canopy]

Need build?

[rich arch]

Nah but i need one for grau for snd

[bright cloud]

You may as well also use 60 round mah

[rich arch]

mono? okay ig

[bright cloud]

Yes mono nexus>tac archangel

[eternal rampart]

Best ZRG build for mp??

[bright cloud]

Armor piercer mag
Light suppresor
Combat stock
Short barrel
Stippled grip

[ornate jackal]

Perk can be stip grip, u can also use AV mag for offbrand hdr

[narrow glen]

@ocean dew, 14 Server Rank

[ocean dew]

Best dlq build mp

[chrome sundial]

Light suppressor
Light barrel
Combat stock
Ext mag a
Perk

[ocean dew]

Any perk

[chrome sundial]

Fmj

[tawny walrus]

Big no no - stippled grip is must have.

[ornate jackal]

Eh i think it needs everything it has

[hoary flare]

stippled where

[hasty plinth]

SOH Perk.

[bright cloud]

Stippled>>>>>>soh

[mint crypt]

somewjh

MY GUY

[remote silo]

Gran>

[bright cloud]

We are talking abiut a sniper dum dum

[remote silo]

Sniper dont have gran?

[bright cloud]

It does but you dont use gran on snipers

[remote silo]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

Ok what, embed fail? On me?

[ornate jackal]

It needs soh or bullet return imo

[remote silo]

Crossbow need it

Not sniper

[ornate jackal]

Its slow ass reload means more to me than slow stf its not a gun u should challenge close range anyways

[paper moat]

Yo. Who wants to play Team qualifiers for the CODM championship together?.
Qualifications: Master I- GrandMaster V.
I will need your Snapchat to keep in touch with you and add you to the group chat. This is to discuss times we will be playing

[bright cloud]

Stippled is for ads speed

[ornate jackal]

Just preference for me, i did say those are interchangeable

[unique schooner]

gifs don't work in gunsmithing channel

[shadow hound]

Toxic

[bright cloud]

No lemme see

Thats all subjective right?

What criteria

Oh so very simple

Yeah so thats for now until i figure out my own thingy out

Ye

I still have to figure out my own thing for precisions sake

[ornate jackal]

I feel as if the deleted message was the ping i received

[remote silo]

You sure that is toxic?

[rich arch]

I'm sure

[remote silo]

That is rpd

We’re talking bout sniper

[rich arch]

[ornate jackal]

My sniper loadout solos fr

[rich arch]

Anyone got ideas for the hbr? Trying something new.

[rich arch]

@bright cloud zrg should only be used with anti vehicle in BR?

[rich arch]

@strong monolith @ruby iris
2 zrg builds for BR, which is more effective?

@sweet flower hey, I'm also pinging you because I found a way to make DLQ actually faster than zrg and locus (supergri has mentioned that these 2 are faster than DLQ) . I'll try to find the comment where I showed it a few days ago here.

(If you use laser instead of mag you get 369ms and it's faster than the best locus and ZRG build)

So, the fastest ads dlq build (including laser), has faster ads time than the fastest zrg and best locus build (which has stopping power mag). And if I recall correctly, including zrg with laser and locus no laser because you actually want either fmj or sup with it

[bright cloud]

That is correct and well know but now the entire concept of laser on sniper comes into question and that build falls out

[bright cloud]

Actually thats wrong. Non sp locus=laser dlq=no laser zrg. They ate all same speed

[rich arch]

Well, shouldn't the best locus build have sp mag since the hitboxes are the same as DLQ? And with that you can either pick fmj or sup there's no reason to pick laser instead of the two. As about the fastest ads zrg build, I think it's slower than that specific DLQ build, I think..

Because we ain't talking about the fastest locus build but the fastest best locus build

Which should have the same hitboxes as the DLQ so the comparison can be more valid

[bright cloud]

Actually no best locus is arguably no sp cuz with sp its just worse dlq. Besides standard sp buuld with no laser is same speed as dlq with lasrr

[rich arch]

Yeah but from the hitbox perspective it should be compared to the one with the sp mag imo

Because we would compare them all with outlaw, XPR etc etc

[bright cloud]

Yeah i just checked and sp locus=dlq laser i made slight miscalvulation

[bright cloud]

So yeah laser dlq=locus sp=zrg no laser

[rich arch]

No worries, I remember the pic you had posted and I went and compared them all. I'll show it to you, I'll try to find it

Hmmm

Here

[bright cloud]

Yeah same ads speed

[rich arch]

It's interesting to mention it from stats perspective

Because that makes DLQ actually not that unusable

[bright cloud]

Exactly

[bright cloud]

As i said dlq laser=locus sp=zrg no laser in terns of ads speed. When we seitch to 120fps story slightly changes

[rich arch]

Hmmm 👀

Noted!!✓✓

[bright cloud]

On 120fps zrg no laser=dlq laser>locus sl

[rich arch]

What changes in that setting?

I usually pick max graphics instead of 120 frame rate option because visually the game looks beautiful in that setting

[bright cloud]

Frames change. Framerate affects ttk ads speed bullet velocity and stf/sta/raise/drop on weapons

[rich arch]

Ohh that's interesting 🤔🤔

Damnn

[rich arch]

What about this ?

[round schooner]

.

[narrow glen]

@round schooner, 14 Server Rank

[sweet flower]

.

sx9 is the most insconstitent gun ever bruh

[young shale]

bro an actual codm nerd

[sweet flower]

no its easy lol

not easy but not nerd hard

[hoary flare]

why tho

its fun to use

[rich arch]

Alright here me out

We need a new marksman or sniper in codm

I'm gonna get attacked

[hoary flare]

SL8

[strange rivet]

just convert the m21 ebr already god damn it

or how about the swiss

[hoary flare]

sako trg

?

[ruby iris]

Mk18 mjolnir

[old reef]

M82A2

[hoary flare]

hehe bullpup rytec go ptchew

[young shale]

fps games need to note this down

right now

[hoary flare]

imagine we get G11 in codm

[fallen wind]

guys if codm added upgraded version of rambo he will use the akimbo mg42

which has a fire rate of 200

[prisma surge]

anyone have a m4 build?

@ruby iris

[ruby iris]

Mono supp
Light short barrel
Gran tape
50r mag
Tac laser/steady stock

[prisma surge]

what better laser or stock, in your terms?

[ruby iris]

Laser for versatile, stock for more passive (snd)

[prisma surge]

so laser for more aggressive?

[hoary flare]

for flex yeah

[clever ermine]

yo guys i wanna test out cr-56 amax anyone got attachments for this gun?

[last bolt]

Mono suppersor
No stock
Extend mag A
Mip custom long
Laser/SOH perk

[hoary flare]

granulated for mm barrel

[last bolt]

If you want faster reload, then you can just get rid of granule instead

You dont need more ads bullet spread if mm barrel is already there

[hoary flare]

bsa 📉

[last bolt]

If you want a long range build, then i guess you could go for BSA attachments

Mine is an aggro build

[bright cloud]

Custom ling barrel is NOT aggro build

[last bolt]

Sorry i meant balanced

[remote silo]

Replace mag and gran with semi mag and shield

And laser with a scope

Trust me

[last bolt]

Thats makes it a marksman rifle now lol

[remote silo]

Who care, it got same fire rate as sks

[hoary flare]

...

[remote silo]

+extra shield

[hoary flare]

ads speed 📉

[last bolt]

I meant balanced lol

[remote silo]

Dmg 📈

[hoary flare]

nah

[remote silo]

I use it, trust me

[last bolt]

You can go for short bartel for more ads speed

[hoary flare]

nah

no stock+ laser already make up for ads speed

[remote silo]

Reload speed go brrr

[last bolt]

You can make it even faster using SOH perk lol

[hoary flare]

not needed

[last bolt]

Then you can use laser or grip tape if you're comfortable with

If you wanna do a marksman build for the amax just use bsa attachments and M67 Ammo

[hoary flare]

i use both

[bright cloud]

It doesnt

[bright cloud]

Custom long is passive build

[last bolt]

Ye im bad on what playstyle of a build is lol

[remote silo]

Alr faster than t19 semi but below sks

It still tapping sim

[last bolt]

As val with fmj ammo can be an aggro aks

[remote silo]

No shield

[last bolt]

Why do you want shield on the amax lol

[remote silo]

To block bullet and clutch a gun fight

[last bolt]

You can either use scope or other attachments

[last bolt]

What if the enemy is shooting on the part on where your shield isnt reachable lol

[narrow glen]

@last bolt, 25 Server Rank

[remote silo]

My head, is covered

[hoary flare]

one time use

[remote silo]

Most of the time they out dps me cause headshot

[remote silo]

That's the point

[hoary flare]

its a one off lmao

[last bolt]

Nice im veteran rank now

[remote silo]

Bro turn silver

[hoary flare]

so its useless asf

[last bolt]

Ok this channel is giving me a headache

So bye bye 👋

[hoary flare]

ight take care

[rustic copper]

Hey anybody got a good loadouts for Frontline and search and destroy pls give me the loadout number

[rich arch]

Uh

Can i give u attachments name?

The nail gun got me this in ranked totally not some duo

[proven hare]

For what gun?

[rich arch]

Wot

[proven hare]

Atts for what gun?

[rich arch]

What ever is good for frontline and snd

[rustic copper]

Sure

[proven hare]

For soap tho

[rich arch]

U can use snipers?

[hoary flare]

anyone got an ICR LMG conversion build

ive been trying out integrated supp, no stock, gran, laser

[rich arch]

Trashiest build ive seen

Uh huh

[rustic copper]

I already have a load out for sniper

[hoary flare]

decided to be a little silly and swap 50 fast mag for lmg drum

is this viable

[rich arch]

Ngl it makes it so slow that its just mid

[mint crypt]

ey yall

[rich arch]

Its like a ul that won’t 3 tap

[vale lichen]

Stay true to your nick name melmo

[rich arch]

Soon im tired rn

But you too

[mint crypt]

no

?

[native canopy]

Not recommended

It already has good range

[hoary flare]

i see, was just playing around with stuff

[solar echo]

Ppl who play this game

Can i 1v1 sm1

[rich arch]

Nu uhhh