codm-gunsmith-help

[bright cloud]

Nah i only play for alca and mwIII like mp

Yes.

[sly wolf]

I’m so dumb imma do it rn.

Does it explode your phone tho

[chrome sundial]

I would hope not. The pc version doesn't look very graphics demanding and the maps are generally small

[sly wolf]

I jus love the pc game so hopefully the bring the quality down for mobile 😭

[bright cloud]

Nah

[sly wolf]

What phone you got 😔

[bright cloud]

A52s

[ornate jackal]

Valid or nah?

[bright cloud]

Not valid

[ornate jackal]

What do i use then

[bright cloud]

Wild fire
Tactical suppressor if good aim mono of eh
Light stock/tac laser
Mag
Granulated grip

[ornate jackal]

So range isn’t necessary at all?

My aims pretty okay with m16 just didnt know if range needed or not

Recoil pattern goes brr if u hold down fire

If no range needed why not use intergal sup

Cause recoil?

[vale lichen]

I use integrated barrel

[bright cloud]

Needs 1 chest shot and then it 4 shots till infinity

[viscid belfry]

336

[bright cloud]

Okay

[vale lichen]

angry cat meme

[dull viper]

This

[stiff thorn]

I don’t see a reason to even use m16

[vast aspen]

infinite 4 shot

[stiff thorn]

And

[vast aspen]

and better than every main AR

[stiff thorn]

100ms

[vast aspen]

?

[bright cloud]

Top tisr passive ar

[stiff thorn]

Nobody cares about the m16

[ornate jackal]

Groza moment

[ornate jackal]

False statement

[bright cloud]

You dont*. As i said its top tier passive ar. Got into kiths top 15 for a reason(was dupposed to get earlier but this new list was including all weapons that were considered hot takes last szns)

[stiff thorn]

I’m sorry are we talking about Br or Mp here?

[ornate jackal]

Never answered gri

[stiff thorn]

M16 is ass

[bright cloud]

Lmao

[ornate jackal]

Mp

[bright cloud]

Mp

[bright cloud]

Decreases bsa iirc?

[bright cloud]

It is vonsistent tho

[ornate jackal]

Not that bad

Vert tho

[bright cloud]

Bsa is only reason i wouldnt use it

Yea its like 4 more meters of gbsa you get by not using it but still

[stiff thorn]

My gun is 90ms ttk (headshot) 29m and 180ms ttk 17m compared to 291 ms ttk 54 m 😂 yeah no m16 is dog

It’s not infinite 4 tap btw

[bright cloud]

It is if you hit 1 chest

[stiff thorn]

It’s only 4 tap consistently to 54 meters

[stiff thorn]

Yeah ok

[bright cloud]

Okay? Do you play hvk as passive ar

[bright cloud]

Depends on buold but evem past tjat its pretty consistent

[stiff thorn]

Not even cygnoux could beat somebody with m16 60 meters away

[stiff thorn]

I don’t need to. If i wanna play passive I’ll just use xpr

It’s zero ms 37 meters and still zero ms 600 meters

😂 m16 is ass

Idk why ppl use it

[bright cloud]

Bc its top tier passive ar

[stiff thorn]

Go play br

[bright cloud]

Lmaoooo

[bright cloud]

@vale lichen btw

[vale lichen]

I don't want to argue with that guy lol, he doesn't worth it🤓

Dude thinks he is the only one with ios device

[bright cloud]

I just stopped as you can

[vale lichen]

m16 is ass this really shows game knowledge lol

[bright cloud]

Xpr>m16

[vale lichen]

Sniper vs ar

cat meme

Let me ask codm devs for automode for sks

@bright cloud how is this

I like your build but without rds... That is horrible

[ornate jackal]

Op negates intergral making that shit useless

U have no ads increase, worse bsa

[vale lichen]

Can i tell you secret now?

[rich arch]

Class

[vale lichen]

This was a build one of my friend gave

He deleted his acc here

But we shared this build everywhere and got tons of stars from #codm-gunsmith-builds channel lol

Propaganda build like QXR fg

@ornate jackal i dare you to make a m16 build with intergal barrel with fg +rds+wildfire

And post it on #codm-gunsmith-builds

Easy 10stars

[bright cloud]

@vale lichen a good burst tec 9 build got hella downvoted tf happened

Im #codm-gunsmith-builds

[vale lichen]

Grip

[bright cloud]

Its movement grip. Its genuinly a very good alt build if you can manage smaller mahs

[bright cloud]

Absolutely nth is wrong with that build

[vale lichen]

I downvoted for grip and stock

As a personal build its good

[bright cloud]

Stock?

[bright cloud]

Grip is good for movement stock is the standard stock. No mag is persinal choice literally 10/10 build if you can manage mag

[vale lichen]

Airborne wrap with raider stock supremacy

[bright cloud]

It took you 20s to write thaz

Actual bruh moment

[vale lichen]

I forgot my standard build

Gallery search+arguing with gf

Daily night routine

[bright cloud]

But yeah sas combat stock cuz more strafe. Striker fg mag alt very grwat

[vale lichen]

Personally i would choose sfg for mag

Same goes for tundra, my build is weird

I don't use tac and stock

[bright cloud]

Yeah fair

[vale lichen]

Gunsmithing channel is a joke lol

If few ppl upvote that build it would be top post of the day

i forgot to reply to gf and she turned off her data

[native canopy]

Ha imagine

[vale lichen]

[neon galleon]

Heyyy

[ornate jackal]

Bet

Easiest downvote of my life but ill do it cause dare

[vale lichen]

Then u can use my same build

Or change last attacment to gran

Lets see

[ornate jackal]

Fire builds i posted

[vale lichen]

Lets see the result💀

[hollow jolt]

does anyone have a recommended smg or ar

for mp

[ornate jackal]

Mow, tec9, and icr

[bright cloud]

Icr nah

[shadow hound]

HVK-30 high caliber mag

[bright cloud]

Depends on playstyle

[ornate jackal]

Good recommendation for beginning players

No bias either

[native canopy]

Icr is goat

[native canopy]

Try these two

[somber tinsel]

for beginners Bizon and Grau and Holger is good
Otherwise the Hvk is good
The Cx9 is good
The Qxr is good
etc.

[ornate jackal]

Rahhh icr mentioned wtf is a bad gun🗣️

[native canopy]

icr much better then hvk

plus 40 round is no no for icr

[shadow briar]

[ornate jackal]

I hate this standard tho

Either run macro or give it range so it has extended 3tap

[clear tide]

lmao

[native canopy]

is very true

[native canopy]

eh i don't use so much anymore

this is like in the middle

[clear tide]

your icr build is perfectly fine but it’s just not better than hvk lol

[native canopy]

yeah its just a joke

obviously ik hvk is better

[remote silo]

Naughty then

[native canopy]

maybe distance kills icr can do better

thats how i feel

[fossil hamlet]

What is the best gun

[clear tide]

hvk

[rich arch]

QXR rng build ?

[remote silo]

Na45

[bright cloud]

Rng?

[bright cloud]

What playstyle

[unreal gale]

I think Ak47 is pretty good for beginners too

Especially if you throw on a red dot

No recoil, no aimshake, HUGE mag

[ornate jackal]

@bright cloud macro icr or lmg kilo

[bright cloud]

Macro icr

[ornate jackal]

Is lmkilo any good

[bright cloud]

Nah

[tawny isle]

ass

[ornate jackal]

That means i should try it🔥

[tawny isle]

rather use holger

or even m4

[shadow briar]

sks

[fallen thistle]

Na45*

[vernal vessel]

No na45

[solid holly]

#619960843878268950

[viscid belfry]

for br fs for mp nah

[rich arch]

run n gun

[shadow briar]

rng means luck though

[rich arch]

Nah

[native canopy]

huh

idk if its just a joke

[shadow briar]

I would assume they’re trolling

I’ve literally never heard anyone use rng to mean run and gun

Normally that’s just aggro

[native canopy]

yeah

[rich arch]

I come from gta so I call it rng

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 8 Server Rank

[native canopy]

run n gun? i never heard anyone say that in gta

[rich arch]

You must of never played much back in 2020

[shadow briar]

Isn’t gta single player 💀 so completely different fundamentals

[native canopy]

i wasn't on alot

[rich arch]

Online too

[native canopy]

that time

[native canopy]

there is a online mode

[shadow briar]

Ah

[native canopy]

not cross platform luckily

[rich arch]

Just search gta rng on yt lol

[shadow briar]

I don’t give enough of a shit tbh

[rich arch]

Igh

[lost hare]

Hello

[tawny isle]

@normal sky is your ots for br?

i assume it is

[vale lichen]

@ornate jackal

Oii

How is it

[ornate jackal]

Wdym

[vale lichen]

M16

[stray rapids]

Haven't played the game in months but last i recall m16 had a different aim assist from other guns in mp which made it pretty accurate

[ornate jackal]

Good

U cant spray at range have to fire in intervals

I wouldnt exactly use it over me current weapons

[rich arch]

Anyone have new kilo bolt action and have a good loadout for it?

[strong monolith]

Stopping Power
Light suppressor
Combat stock
Stippled grip tape
Red dot sight of choice/Bullet return

[rich arch]

Hi

DM me please

☹️🙏

[rich arch]

Thank you I love it

[somber tinsel]

I played it as a beginner to so fair yeah

[ruby iris]

What's wzm meta?

[strong monolith]

RAM7
Holger 556
HRM9

[ruby iris]

Should i be bothered to grind for them?

[rich arch]

[strong monolith]

I mean
No reason not to

[bright cloud]

Yea thats how it looks so far

[strong monolith]

Other options would be
BP50
SVA545
Striker9
BAS-B
Subverter (if its out rn)

[ruby iris]

Would the game be optimized to the point where it's worth playing in the near future for mid-low range?

[strong monolith]

This idk

[ruby iris]

[digital needle]

Never

[strong monolith]

I'm not playing it rn because my device literally dies from opening it

[ruby iris]

If the game isnt playable then there's no reason to grind

[rich arch]

Helloooo

[digital needle]

WZM is dying after released

[stiff thorn]

Striker tf

[remote silo]

When did sva got added to codm

[rich arch]

No ul

[rich arch]

This is wzm

[rich arch]

Wzm

[strong monolith]

SVA is technically already in CoDM
ASM10

[stiff thorn]

Ik

I’m saying put striker in there

[rich arch]

Oh

[strong monolith]

Its basically the HRM that trades mobility for range

[warped token]

Ricey you still in the other server?

[ruby iris]

Since wednesday

[warped token]

[ruby iris]

See you wednesday the week after

[warped token]

Yeah I got a 7 day sentence

[warped token]

[rich arch]

LMAO

whatd you even do

[timber fulcrum]

Yo

Does anyone has a good build on the Koshka sniper rifle

[hoary flare]

anything fast ads

[timber fulcrum]

Okk

[normal sky]

yessir

[rich arch]

Gae

[rich arch]

I am indeed

Also I wonder how many simps youll get with that pfp 💀

[rich arch]

None

My dms r dead

[rich arch]

Shocking
Go to an edating server and then see

[rich arch]

With compdestroyer as my user i dont think that work

[rich arch]

True
Though once I had this name and a knight pfp and all, sent one message saying I was a girl and got 6 dms

[rich arch]

Show

Idk what weapon to use for now

[rich arch]

That was on my old account + I got the server taken down 😭

[rich arch]

Lmao

[stiff thorn]

U

[rich arch]

Lol

[vale lichen]

Compared to meta build its trash but it works

[rich arch]

Atleast i dont camp in snd

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

real

I need hvk gunsmith with rds or kn 44

Hvk (passive build)

Or js a passive hvk build :

[vale lichen]

Can change laser for gran

[rich arch]

amazing build

[rich arch]

mono
marksman barrel
gran
lc mag
red dot/strike or combat stock

[rich arch]

Fr

[rich arch]

Alr ty

[vale lichen]

Can change laser for gran

[rich arch]

my man put it FAST ASF

:

Ima try owc marksman drh first

[rich arch]

Nvm ak117 build with rds i tried the kn44 n didnt do wel

[midnight lantern]

hmm

[vale lichen]

Hmm indeed

[midnight lantern]

nob

[vale lichen]

U nobb

[midnight lantern]

u nob fr

[vale lichen]

Noo uuuu

[midnight lantern]

zoro nob behaviour 😡

[vale lichen]

Noo u wickeddd behavior

[midnight lantern]

no u

[vale lichen]

U nob frr

[midnight lantern]

no

[vale lichen]

Yessd

U nob frr

[midnight lantern]

no u nob

[vale lichen]

No u nob

[midnight lantern]

@vale lichen nob give build for mac10 br

hipfire obv

[tawny walrus]

I can gib, if it needed.

[midnight lantern]

sure

and also a switchblade mp build

i want to try out the leggy dame draw skin

[vale lichen]

Try it,i just made it

My br knowledge is peasant like

[rich arch]

hi who want game in vc

[midnight lantern]

k

will try later on skirmish bots

[midnight lantern]

thanks

[tawny walrus]

Change Disable to laser or gran grip.

[midnight lantern]

i need to get into hipfiring in br before alca returns

[midnight lantern]

[vale lichen]

Alcatraz return??

Ahho ahoo

[midnight lantern]

i mean devs said so

but idk when

[vale lichen]

Laser for gran

Komi san already helped you

[midnight lantern]

ye

thanks tho nob

[vale lichen]

Never trust Lawyers or Activision employees

[vale lichen]

No u noobiieee

[midnight lantern]

true but i cant tolerate shit skirmish anymore ☠️

[vale lichen]

Br is trash now i don't think i will try to hit br leggy lol

[midnight lantern]

yuh same

[vale lichen]

You're already leggyyyu

[midnight lantern]

?

I'm gm3

[vale lichen]

Thats mp

[midnight lantern]

Yes

[vale lichen]

I was talking about br

[vale lichen]

Mp is simple

Play only snd

[midnight lantern]

Oh
I always grind the shit out of alca with sin farah lino Yuki

I'm like 600 off 10k points

[midnight lantern]

I do tdm now

[vale lichen]

Me lazy af

[vale lichen]

Play sndd

[midnight lantern]

I only played codm on Friday - Sunday when alca was out ☠️

[midnight lantern]

Nah I don't want to solo snd
I usually played snd with my friends

[vale lichen]

Me play snd solo

[midnight lantern]

I hate mp rank in general so

[vale lichen]

Best mode

[midnight lantern]

Maybe but I still hate rank mp, makes me stressed so much over a game

Only reason I'm grinding mp is cuz the free leggy

(and gm3 groza skin)

[native canopy]

I hate mp rank also

And i hate br also

[midnight lantern]

Understandable

Only thing I liked was alca with the gang

And now that's gone so

[young shale]

U cant not like that

They didnt permanently removed it

But it deffo wasnt to revamp the map

[midnight lantern]

Still it's gone

[ornate jackal]

I hate ranked mp but thats exactly why i like it

[young shale]

Cos if they revamp the map theres no reason to remove it

[winter iris]

anyone has an op qq9 gunsmith

[tawny walrus]

Mono suppressor
Recon barrel
No stock
45 mag
Tactical laser/granulated grip

[somber tinsel]

10mm mag > 45 mag for aggro

just so you know

[ornate jackal]

Not how it’s described

10m is worse for respawns

[somber tinsel]

Increases Hitboxes in 2nd range making the 4 shot more consistent
3 shot is actually good (requires 1 chest shot)
(for context you normally need 3 chest shots)
So yeah ttk also fast, I get 3 shots much tbh.
(Slower 4 shot ttk)

10mm is better than 45 mag for respawns.

aggro ofc

But I think 1 time saying it‘s for aggro is enough

almost 10 more 4 tap range

don‘t mess up with legs assuming

Better hitboxes, more range and slightly lower ttk

[vale lichen]

6medals for kurumuraaa

[vale lichen]

My takee @bright cloud

[dusty heart]

Just use switchblade

[midnight lantern]

mhm

[vale lichen]

Me have to wait 12mins more to join clan

[vale lichen]

Sx9 is not meta or A tier weapon

[somber tinsel]

It‘s A tier weapon
(Ass tier)

[bright cloud]

Literally why

[somber tinsel]

Bro‘s upset

😭

[bright cloud]

10mm better option if good mag management and aim

[midnight lantern]

[austere igloo]

Switchblade is decent

Not top of the game meta, but not bad either

[dusty heart]

It is if you can aim,

I downgrade myself by using the mythic version yet it still made a lot of my games easy

[tawny walrus]

Meh.

[bright cloud]

Bruh

[bright cloud]

It is. Consistent 4 shot till 20m potential 3 tao if you aim upper body

[dusty heart]

Also considering 10mm qq9 is actually horrid

[tawny walrus]

Switchblade is okay, but it brought enough pain for me, since its release, so I quite hate it.

[bright cloud]

HAHAHAHAH

[bright cloud]

Its mid smg

[somber tinsel]

@dusty heart It‘s a high skill high reward smg
it‘s like the hvk large caliber of smg

[tawny walrus]

I haven’t seen anyone playing with 10 mm mag.

[dusty heart]

It nerfs 4 shot ttk, which it already does good without 10mm

[tawny walrus]

You’re losing potential 15 additional rounds.

[bright cloud]

Okay and?

[tawny walrus]

Then there’s should be a reason, why no one uses it, right?

[bright cloud]

But extends consistent 4 shot range by a lot and potential 3 tap

[bright cloud]

Reason? People ate dunb simple reason.

[vale lichen]

Joinedd

[vale lichen]

Its like grau category of smg

[vale lichen]

45r better

30/120 45/180

[tawny walrus]

Wow, you’re so hasty on making false assumptions.

[vale lichen]

snd mains 10mm worth it

Otherwise 45r

[bright cloud]

Sx9 is approximetly c tier in smg tier list. Below avarege especialy this season. Avarege last szn below avarege this

[bright cloud]

People still use switchblade

[vale lichen]

There are better guns ofc

[somber tinsel]

4 shot 16.5-24m
with 10mm
31.9 (head)
29.6 (chest)
27.3 (arms)
25 (stomach)
Literally everything is better on 10mm in that range than on 45
And the hitbox is better lol

[tawny walrus]

SMGs tend to have a fast fire rate, which deplete ammo really quick. And in order to decrease amounts of reloads and kill more enemies, extended mags come to play.

[ornate jackal]

Can i get a qxr build no eb?

[bright cloud]

Its .9s differenxe in spray

[vale lichen]

Laser🗿

[somber tinsel]

Mono,Marksman,light stock,laser,gran/ext mag a

[bright cloud]

Monolithix suppressor
No stock
Owc marksman
Extended mag/tactical laser
Granulated grip

[somber tinsel]

Oggaed told light stock better strafe little and taper so more worth? no?

[bright cloud]

Yea but ads speed

[ornate jackal]

What to replace mono sup for

I dont want a sup

[somber tinsel]

Bruh

[bright cloud]

[vale lichen]

No range??

[ornate jackal]

Marksman is enough

[somber tinsel]

Hmm isn‘t it enough with light stock
whats the no stock ads speed vs light stock?

[tawny walrus]

I don’t need marksman barrel.

[ornate jackal]

Im using that same build but ranger fg

[somber tinsel]

💀

[bright cloud]

This is aggro build

[ornate jackal]

This one*

[tawny walrus]

18% range won’t make any weather for you.

[somber tinsel]

Enhanced bolt is for aggro

[dusty heart]

Do you even play ranked bro?

I see that more than any other smg apart from cx9

[bright cloud]

Yes i do and? Doesnt change fact its below avaraege

[dusty heart]

And it’s still used in scrims alot

[bright cloud]

Okay again and? Whats point you are trying to make?

[somber tinsel]

Who cares what you see? that doesn‘t make the gun good? people use so many guns whether good or not, and scrims are braindead

[ornate jackal]

Do i use op fg instead of ranger?

[tawny walrus]

I don’t really get the context, but okay.

[vale lichen]

W

[dusty heart]

Popularity proves a point

[bright cloud]

Again where is your argument

[tawny walrus]

I guess so.

[somber tinsel]

No it doesn‘t, stat‘s prove a point.

[bright cloud]

And thats all i needed to know

@somber tinsel dont bother

[somber tinsel]

Fine

[dusty heart]

Both do

[vale lichen]

Ricey ofcc

W build

[bright cloud]

Lmao

[tawny walrus]

Wait, is that a mag release?

I’ve never thought of it.

[bright cloud]

I think it is

[midnight lantern]

noice welcome to tha gang

[vale lichen]

Details 🤌

[vale lichen]

I should change my ign lol

[midnight lantern]

?

[vale lichen]

But my creativity is at 0

[midnight lantern]

just use "Nob Zoro"

[vale lichen]

Wyw is my ex-clan name

[bright cloud]

So wait if m4 got popular ist good?

[vale lichen]

Zoro~nobWicked

[tawny walrus]

womp womp

[midnight lantern]

oh

[vale lichen]

Average American school book

[midnight lantern]

ok name ur self that

[tawny walrus]

It’s actually MP7 manual.

[midnight lantern]

he was joking ☠️

[vale lichen]

I'll do it tomorrow

[vale lichen]

same-same hehe

[tawny walrus]

I understand, but I wanted to clarify that.

[midnight lantern]

alr bet

[tawny walrus]

Nodes are so lame today.

Hope there will be good ones tomorrow.

[vale lichen]

I have cllge at 4th Saturday bro💀

What are they cooking bruhhh

[midnight lantern]

i have college tomorrow as well , not lecs tho just closing ceremony of the club i was a part of

[bright cloud]

Same

[vale lichen]

Bruhh i get like 0 events

[midnight lantern]

nob college ☠️

[tawny walrus]

Wicked, how long you’ve been in your college?

[vale lichen]

I deserve this for picking a private cllge instead of gov one😭

[midnight lantern]

mines private as well

[midnight lantern]

the current one?

almost 8-9 months

[tawny walrus]

Oh, were you studying in other one before?

[midnight lantern]

yea

switched cuz this college better for future

old one was good but this one provides a lot of scope (also very close to my house)

[tawny walrus]

That’s a good decision.

[vale lichen]

Everyone was choosing AI as core subject so i wanted a change

[tawny walrus]

I was studying in other university before too, but I changed it later, because it was too tough for me.

[vale lichen]

Now i am fked

[tawny walrus]

Unfortunately, I wasted one year of my life.

[vale lichen]

Cap, nothing is tough for you komi san

Literally did all dia

[tawny walrus]

Communication:

[midnight lantern]

real, also current one is the best college for my field in city

[vale lichen]

Only one point i can't argue💀

[midnight lantern]

i was going to take science after 10th but after 10 th results i chose commerce ☠️

[midnight lantern]

damn

welp as well as u dont regret it, its good

[tawny walrus]

Yeah, it’s pretty more simple than before.

[midnight lantern]

W

[vale lichen]

I was a nerd

[midnight lantern]

nob nerd ☠️

i wasnt a nerd

[vale lichen]

Nob u

[midnight lantern]

nuh uh

[vale lichen]

U u nob

[tawny dock]

Wth

Anyway

Yall have a chicom build

[bright cloud]

Owc marksman
Mono
Light stock
Extended mag
Granulated grip tape

[ornate jackal]

Eb is honestly worse

[vast aspen]

better*

[ornate jackal]

Fine i will correct myself

[bright cloud]

For flex*

[ornate jackal]

After testing and using enhanced bolt versus regular qxr i prefer regular and do not see reason for using eb

Is that better @vast aspen

[vast aspen]

there is no reason for using noeb 😔

even Wolves and Seminal coach said eb is must!

[bright cloud]

So you play flex

[ornate jackal]

Less bsa and range on eb and im not aggro player

Passive flex mainly

[bright cloud]

So yeah thats ehy you preder non eb. Eb is.still meta aggro tho

[ornate jackal]

I cant even aggro correctly im using tec9 at 32m

[ruby iris]

Doesnt eb makes ttk better

Regardless of range?

[ornate jackal]

Yea

[ruby iris]

[ornate jackal]

4 shot

Base consist 5-6

At range

[bright cloud]

Yes

[bright cloud]

Eh not rly

[vast aspen]

2m less

[vast aspen]

yes rlly

[ornate jackal]

Wait eb gives ads now

Why didnt i recognize

Still using base

[vast aspen]

yes

130ms ads time

[bright cloud]

@ruby iris

[bright cloud]

But you lose potential.cuz no chest. Faster rof equals faster base ttk tho

[vast aspen]

wdym, that chest doesn't do anything

[ruby iris]

How do you hit chest consistently tho

Like 100% every gunfight

[vast aspen]

yes

4/4 CHESTS good luck @ruby iris

[bright cloud]

In second. Worth mentioning

[bright cloud]

2/4*

Eb has faster ttk overall yes

[vast aspen]

still not easy

even grau 4 shot is easier

[bright cloud]

Yes

[bright cloud]

I just thought it was worth mentioning

And i remembered it being 1/4 for some reason

[vast aspen]

nuh uh

[bright cloud]

Okae

But eb still has way better bsa

[vast aspen]

eh 2 difference

@bright cloud see the thing in ge chat

[bright cloud]

Yeah i did

[bright cloud]

More

[bright cloud]

6 max 3 initial diff

[vast aspen]

nah

[vast aspen]

xtra attachment lol!

use mag

[bright cloud]

Huh

[bright cloud]

With gran its 3 max 1 initial

[somber tinsel]

For range

For aggro it‘s better

[ruby iris]

@bright cloud

Qq10 still feels meh

Could benefit from a recoil and bsa buff

[ornate jackal]

Ill take my chances

[bright cloud]

Bruh and you wonder why it sucks

[bright cloud]

Recoil on qq10 is already easy

[tawny dock]

Thanks dude

[bright cloud]

Cuz qq10 decreases recoil

[vale lichen]

Fg

Don't do zat

[ruby iris]

?

Shit can barely do midrange

Ttk is decent but it needs a recoil and bsa buff

[oblique valley]

anyone got a good manowar build

[bright cloud]

How do you play qq9 then

[bright cloud]

Colosdus suppressor
Ranger barrel
Light stock
Granulated grip tape
Extended mag

[ruby iris]

Close range

[oblique valley]

tsm

[ruby iris]

Qq9 for close range and 10mm for mid range

You get so little ammo you cant play aggro

120 reserve

[vale lichen]

Lower fire rate too

Ig

[ornate jackal]

Try this too but gran instead of laser

[bright cloud]

Okay. Cuz qq9 recoil is worse

[vale lichen]

[ornate jackal]

How do u know my builds😭

[vale lichen]

Because i am him

[unreal gale]

Dude wtf is this

How did we lose 🗿

[vale lichen]

No one was focused on obj

Their bottom frag carried

[ornate jackal]

Fear yawheh is u?

I played u bro💀

[digital needle]

Random teammate nowadays

[bright cloud]

Bottom frag on their team carried hard thats why

[unreal gale]

Wait what when

[ruby iris]

Ngl, i still prefer 45r more

Ignore shit aim, i really need to go to sleep now

[unreal gale]

Aim is good wym

[ruby iris]

Could be better

[unreal gale]

Given gun and skin, it’s good

[ruby iris]

Also pubs so it doesnt count

[ruby iris]

With magma camo

Different build tho

[unreal gale]

Don’t like the skin ngl

[ruby iris]

Its this build, but 45r

[unreal gale]

Looks like a me build lol

[unreal gale]

Like this morning?

[vale lichen]

Nah you're goat🗿

[unreal gale]

What were you called again @ornate jackal

[ruby iris]

Coulda been better, so nah

[vale lichen]

Sunny there was an entire B34R show on #619960843878268950

Ig the leader guy got muted by founder lol

[vale lichen]

Still goat🗿

[vast aspen]

not load

[ruby iris]

Qq9 pubs gaemplae

Nothing worth watching

[vast aspen]

hm

[fast crag]

I just started playing the game

What gun should i use?

[obsidian ember]

any good type 19 builds?

[vast aspen]

m4

[fast crag]

What is a good build for it?

[bright cloud]

9 of them what you need

[obsidian ember]

the best one

[vast aspen]

all are best

[vast aspen]

level it up first

[tawny walrus]

Heavy suppressor
Agile stock
Polymer grip
48 mag
Aim assist laser

[obsidian ember]

thanks

[tawny walrus]

You’re welcome.

[fast crag]

K thanks

How much though?

[vast aspen]

mono, light short barrel, tac laser, 50 mag, granulated

[bright cloud]

Playstyle?

[obsidian ember]

aggresive

[fast crag]

Alright thanks

[tawny walrus]

For aggressive, change suppressor to suppressed barrel.

That should do.

But the build, I gave to you, also works well for aggressive.

[somber tinsel]

For flex
North industry
Agile stock
Polymer
AA Laser
Fast reload mag
(Wait for gri tho)

[bright cloud]

Heavyweight suporessor
Accurate grip
Agile stock
Fast mag
Cronen shark 2 foregrip

[vast aspen]

same one

[tawny walrus]

Basically, the same build, I gave.

[somber tinsel]

I didn‘t read

And I don‘t really care lol

[fast crag]

What perks and scorestreaks should i use?

[bright cloud]

Cronen shark instead of suppresses is better since its less extreme

[bright cloud]

Whatever suits you

[vast aspen]

what u have unlocked

[tawny walrus]

I usually run lightweight, quick fix and hardline. Scorestreaks are UAV, Counter-UAV and Advanced UAV.

[vast aspen]

nice

[tawny walrus]

Oh, wait, I mistook skulker with lightweight.

[fast crag]

Thanks

[tawny walrus]

That is what I’m running for ranked.

[fast crag]

How many fingers should i play with?

[tawny walrus]

I’d recommend to play with four.

[bright cloud]

Start at 2 or 3 and try to go to at least 4

[obsidian ember]

if you are starting just 2, but if you can handle it, try slowly going to 3, then if you mastered it all, use 4

[ornate jackal]

Sirixlogicz

[tawny isle]

everyone starts at 2 lmao

[bright cloud]

Depends on experience

[unreal gale]

I started 4

[tawny isle]

ohh

[unreal gale]

Went from bluestacks start to 4 finger claw xD

[tawny isle]

let me correct myself: most start at 2

[tawny isle]

i could not do 4 the first time

[fast crag]

Thanks all

[unreal gale]

I think 4 is the most intuitive

Like it just makes sense haha

2 fingers you feel like doing actual movement feels super awkward

Since you have to take your finger off your aim

[fast crag]

I will try going up to 3 and 4 fingers

[vast aspen]

nope

[unreal gale]

Wdym nope 🗿

[vast aspen]

7

[unreal gale]

Lol, but in all seriousness, bluestacks doesn't count

It's about as relevant as having warzone experience prior to codm

[vale lichen]

5 is good

[ornate jackal]

I just lost to t25 cqc???

[vast aspen]

sure

[obsidian ember]

how about switchblade build?

[bright cloud]

Monolithic suppressor
Skeleton stock
Mip extended barrel
Granulated grip
Extended mag a

[tawny walrus]

Monolithic suppressor
Light stock
Extended magazine
Extended barrel
Tactical laser / granulated grip

[obsidian ember]

aight thx

[bright cloud]

Why light stock bruh

[obsidian ember]

it apparently helps with ads movement speed

[tawny walrus]

Yes, let’s ruin BSA and increase recoil just for 5% of ADS speed.

[bright cloud]

Lmao

[vale lichen]

Light and Skelton is only good stock for sx9💀

[vast aspen]

light stock better

[bright cloud]

No

[vast aspen]

literally yes

[bright cloud]

And lemme give you bsa ranges

[bright cloud]

19.07m vs 19.4 meters gbsa ,,ruins bsa"

[bright cloud]

And one 1ru in 15 shots spray

So 0.06' ru per shot at 20m

Aka no diff

[bright cloud]

@vast aspen

[bright cloud]

And 0.05 flinch

[chrome sundial]

What's gbsa and ru?

[narrow glen]

@chrome sundial, 30 Server Rank

[bright cloud]

Guaranteed bsa and recoil unit. 1 Recoil unit is approximetly height of neck

[vast aspen]

that graph doesn't do shit, light stock recoil is so much smoother

like so much than skeleton stock

4 debuffs for 1 debuff

and get only 10ms.ads speed

[bright cloud]

Nor by a lot

[unreal gale]

@bright cloud have you guys started working on wzm?

I tried to build guns but they literally don't tell you jack

[bright cloud]

Not yet. We wanna tho

[unreal gale]

"+ recoil, - bsa"

like hello? 5%? 50%!?

[tawny walrus]

Light stock make it worse.

[bright cloud]

Yes its very frustrating. Sadly we are in middle of sum but after that we can try

[unreal gale]

bet

have you personally tried the game yet?

[bright cloud]

I literally.explained why not above

[bright cloud]

Ye

[tawny walrus]

10 ms of ADS time.

[unreal gale]

I think light stock is better on switch

[bright cloud]

1f

[tawny walrus]

See? Only one frame.

[unreal gale]

this is not worth 5% ads time imo

[bright cloud]

Id rather take 1f ads speed over other minimal debuffs

[unreal gale]

oh, and -2% bsa

[tawny walrus]

It’s like putting laser on snipers for 3% of ADS time.

[unreal gale]

except ads time actually matters on snipers

[bright cloud]

-0.05 flinch
-Only 0.06 more ru at 20m
-.3m less bsa 100% hit rate range
-horizontal is slightly less smooth

[tawny walrus]

Like, come on…

[bright cloud]

@tawny walrus you too

[unreal gale]

wait why are you measuring bsa by 100% hit range

[tawny walrus]

One frame.

[bright cloud]

Minimal.debuffs

[unreal gale]

for an even more trivial buff though

[bright cloud]

Easiest way to get referential value of how good bsa is. What else would you prefer

[tawny walrus]

Everyone tells you that they would pick light stock over skeleton.

Why are you so stubborn?

[somber tinsel]

@bright cloud Recoil is skill issue
and bsa is irrelevant for an aggro smg no?

[unreal gale]

idk, just a number I guess

the 100% hit rate distance way of measuring it kinda completely misses the point

like the downside of bsa is hardly ever "it's so bad that your gun literally cannot hit the target"

[bright cloud]

I gave my numbers. I would pixk 1f ads speed over .05 flinch .43m 100% hr and slightly worse recoil

[unreal gale]

still to do with aim box

better bsa is just smaller aim box

and it's like a why not

[bright cloud]

There exists a numbwr for that too but you cant compare it kind of

[unreal gale]

I guess 2% bsa literally does squat

but like why lose it

[somber tinsel]

Does skeleton stock hurt the bsa that much?

Or nah

[unreal gale]

literally 2%

compared to light stock

[half fulcrum]

Just use light stock🙂

[tawny walrus]

There’s no reason for me to trade an insignificant debuffs for insignificant buff.

[somber tinsel]

Oh I didn’t read everything mb

[unreal gale]

also the "recoil is skill issue" concept is literal hot air

[unreal gale]

I don't think the bsa is the main thing though

[tawny walrus]

This dispute is pointless.

[unreal gale]

it's more like the recoil and flinch

[robust swallow]

How can I participate in giveaway ?

[narrow glen]

Hello there! looking for the giveaway channel or discussing a current or upcoming one?
To see giveaway #giveaway-🎉 select your region and how you play here ----> id:customize

[unreal gale]

also dude, drh neon shruiken is lowkey amazing

[bright cloud]

I thought it was 2f which eould make it better but with 1f i can chalk it up to personal preference. Same as tac suppressor vs mono

[unreal gale]

it's so much better than base, which is already pretty good

[unreal gale]

tac >

:D

[tawny walrus]

I like tactical laser - it gives both ADS time and BSA without penalties.

[unreal gale]

uhhhhhh

[bright cloud]

Without penalties?

[unreal gale]

I think you mean, the most signficant tactical debuff in the game

[somber tinsel]

skill issue couldn‘t care less about that also when I go aggro xd

[bright cloud]

Actually even if we chalk laser up to ,,Players dont notice ot" imo hran szill reigns superior

[tawny walrus]

If you think that visible laser is a debuff, I feel sorry for you.

[vast aspen]

a lot

[vast aspen]

yeah

[somber tinsel]

Joesph Joestar

[bright cloud]

It is

[unreal gale]

I think laser is a massive L for anything that's not like shipment pubs

even pub snd I think no laser is better

[tawny walrus]

🥱

[bright cloud]

Its rly personal preference tbh. I thoight it was 2f but after seeing its 1f then yeah its personal preference

[tawny walrus]

Running tactical laser, since the gunsmith introduction.

[vast aspen]

same

[unreal gale]

do you play 2 thumbs?

[vast aspen]

it ain't

[tawny walrus]

Actually, one thumb.

[vast aspen]

isleep

[unreal gale]

for thumbs players, I can totally see laser being good

[unreal gale]

??

[tawny walrus]

I answered to your irony with irony.

Everything is square and fair.

[unreal gale]

mine wasn't irony

it was a genuine question. also let's move to codm discussion

[bright cloud]

@strong monolith actually how tf you play like thaz im intriuged whats your hud

[rich arch]

cx9 aggro ?

[unreal gale]

this cooldown is lowkey pissing me off

[bright cloud]

Yes

[vast aspen]

sure

[tawny walrus]

Yeah yeah, whatever you say.

The only mode, where I don’t run laser, is SnD.

[bright cloud]

@vast aspen ge chat i wanna ask you smth

[rich arch]

ok thanks

[vast aspen]

I play respawns and yes laser is best

people are way to focused on rushing OBJ to care about your green light

[tawny walrus]

I follow the same logic.

[unreal gale]

if you're playing literal T4s sure

[vast aspen]

I literally used laser on our acct

no one gave a shit

[unreal gale]

anyone with literal half a brain cell and has played the game for like 2 months would see your laser and dodge

[vast aspen]

people don't care about ur light that disappears after 20m

and most players run medium

[tawny walrus]

Imagine mocking people just for using laser lol.

[unreal gale]

do you play thumbs or claw

[vast aspen]

this is false lol

[unreal gale]

I don't see where you;re getting the mocking from

[tawny walrus]

^

Also you said that thumbs players use lasers.

[unreal gale]

I'm talking about people who "are way to focused on rushing OBJ to care about your green light"

[tawny walrus]

Which makes me think that you’re mocking.

[unreal gale]

dude because they do

it's not meant to be condescending

thumbs players use laser and I recommend lasers for thumbs players

[tawny walrus]

Not everyone uses laser bruh.

[unreal gale]

fits perfectly with their playstyle

[tawny walrus]

It’s just a player’s preference.

[unreal gale]

if you don't hardscope, then literally laser is the best attachment ever

if you're playing claw and not hardscoping, that's a tactical blunder

[tawny walrus]

If they fine with laser, they put laser. If they don’t want to be seen, they use granulated grip.

You’re free to choice whatever you want.

[unreal gale]

you're kinda stating the obvious and subverting the point

[tawny walrus]

But don’t tell anyone what they must use and mustn’t.

[tawny walrus]

Because you don’t understand it.

[unreal gale]

This is a codm discord. you're meant to discuss what is optimal. No one is forcing anyone do to anything lol

[rich arch]

do you have the class?

[vast aspen]

wwhat gun

[unreal gale]

if you use a blood 6x scope on your LK who's gonna be out there to get you? No one

[rich arch]

cx9 aggro

[unreal gale]

but will people tell you not to do it? for sure they will

[vast aspen]

38s, cs-fr, cx9 grip tape, 50 round, soh

[rich arch]

thanks

[unreal gale]

and plus, this literally all started because you claimed that lasers have no downsides which is blatantly false

[tawny walrus]

Yes, but one thing is tell once and other thing is keep pursuing someone with the question “Why are you using laser? Why are you using laser? Why are you using laser?”

That’s how I see it.

[unreal gale]

if that was the case, why are lasers literally never used in any higher tier gameplay?

[bright cloud]

Yeah we can say most people dont notice em but its still downside

[tawny walrus]

Like I care about competitive lol.

Why pros aren’t using LC on HVK? Everyone is using it in ranked, though.

[unreal gale]

1st of all, no one did that. We're literally discussing the cons of lasers.

[vast aspen]

it's banned

[tawny walrus]

I know lol.

[unreal gale]

how do you except me to discuss that without mentioning lasers? and when did I ever ask even a single time "why do you use laser?"

[tawny walrus]

I’m just showing how dumb this logic is.

[vale lichen]

Lasers are goated in respwns

[unreal gale]

I didn't say comp. comp is a whole different story. No one even in my ranked lobbies runs laser... like ever.

[vale lichen]

Snd :not recommended

[unreal gale]

laser is about as rare as the shadow blade operator

[vale lichen]

Use gran

[tawny walrus]

Strange, I see many people running lasers in ranked.

[unreal gale]

whenever someone runs laser, it literally sticks out big time. everybody on the whole map notices it

[vast aspen]

people were running 5mW 😆

[unreal gale]

m13 hot recommended build moment

[tawny walrus]

On mythic M13, especially.

[vast aspen]

that's 5mW

[tawny walrus]

Visibility range:

[vast aspen]

I hate 5mW noobs on ARs

[unreal gale]

"all rounded build" lmao

[vast aspen]

lmao

[unreal gale]

there's no way you took that literally 💀

[vale lichen]

Silencer barrel + sub sonic ammo build? 💀

[tawny walrus]

I couldn’t ignore something stupid like that.

[unreal gale]

then maybe consider it to be a hyperbole? like hello where did the common sense go?

[austere igloo]

Gimme names

[vale lichen]

Touch some grass maybe🤌

[unreal gale]

if I say "everyone and their mums runs drh in ranked", are you gonna tell me "people's mums don't usually play codm"?

[vast aspen]

Omnipresence

[austere igloo]

Alr did during the day

It’s 1:43am now

[vast aspen]

31 kills treak

does it count scorestreak

[unreal gale]

do you like that blueprint over the base?

that's the brown one right

from bp

[vale lichen]

crying kid gif

[austere igloo]

Not brown

[tawny walrus]

It’s impossible for me to guess where are you joking or not after you said that I’m using two thumbs.

[austere igloo]

Gilded dawn

[austere igloo]

It’s alright

The base is alr p’ good

[unreal gale]

wait I literally don't understand why you're reading so deep into that question

[tawny walrus]

Alright, stop it.

[unreal gale]

Generally thumbs players love lasers (because it's literally the best attachment in the game for thumbs players) and you love lasers

[tawny walrus]

This is leading to nowhere.

[unreal gale]

what, you thought it was a personal attack?

[tawny walrus]

Just don’t ask me about why I use laser next time. Okay?

[unreal gale]

you're reading too deep my guy

[tawny walrus]

I don’t want to talk about that once again.

[vale lichen]

No, i also like laser i play 5 claw

[unreal gale]

no one ever asked you that lmao

[tawny walrus]

This is just stupid and time consuming.

[vale lichen]

Depends on gameplay

[unreal gale]

depends whether you hardscope or not

[vale lichen]

For aggro agrro laser is the best choice

[tawny walrus]

This is the trigger message.

[unreal gale]

like literally, that's it

[vale lichen]

Exactly, gran for passive players
Laser for agro players

[unreal gale]

because it is dude! how did you get "and why do you use laser it;s so bad" from that?

[bright cloud]

For high mmr yes

[unreal gale]

and if you're a girl, my bad for the word choice

[unreal gale]

let's not go with the 'aggro/passive' categories

depends on the gun, depends on the map, literally depends on the hardpoint

plus, unless you're using like fennec or cx9, people hardscope anyway

switchblade hardscope walk is a whole respawn meta

[tawny walrus]

I’m not picky on pronouns.

[unreal gale]

back when swb was meta that is

[tawny walrus]

Boy or girl - doesn’t matter.

[unreal gale]

are you a girl though? just for my info

[vale lichen]

You can slap laser on any gun(not on sniper unless its AA)if you're stupidly aggro laser is good choice on every map

[tawny walrus]

I don’t like to share my true gender.

[unreal gale]

Alr ig...

[unreal gale]

Yeah but stupidly aggro is uh... Well stupid

[tawny walrus]

It’s only for Discord, though. In real life, I’m completely a normal person.

[unreal gale]

Sure makes sense

[vale lichen]

[wild bear]

Code Call of Duty global please

[sterile pike]

@unique schooner

[tawny dock]

Ak117 build pls

[unique schooner]

[tawny walrus]

Mono suppressor
Extended barrel
No stock
40 mag
Tactical laser / granulated grip

[dark dove]

Good gunsmith for koshka?

[unique schooner]

Neko

[tawny walrus]

Katze.

[bright cloud]

Mobility stock
Anti vehicle mag
Light suppressor/fast aim laser(id reccomend supp more tho)
Stippled grip tape
Mip light barrel

[dark dove]

Thank you

[tawny walrus]

I think there is armor piercing mag.

[dark dove]

Yah there is

It better to use armor piercing?

[bright cloud]

Yeah im dumb

[bright cloud]

Yes thats what i meant armor piercer it doesnt even have anti vehocle mag my bad

[dark dove]

Oh

K thanks anyways

[stiff remnant]

.

[royal dagger]

Kind of a hot take, pubs snd people aren't as bright imo so I don't think they'd notice the laser

Ranked, ofc

Tac laser's good in respawns (except tdm sometimes)

[viscid belfry]

nini

[royal dagger]

Hi

Don't call me that

[viscid belfry]

lol

what i can call

[royal dagger]

Nin is fine

[royal dagger]

Koshka has an anti vehicle mag?

I only remember ext mag, fast ext mag, and armor piercer

You figured that out anyway nvm

[royal dagger]

Lk is a gun that doesn't need tac laser, if ads time is concerning just learn to preaim

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[swift abyss]

whats the best sight

wzm

corvus is legit kinda ass

thermal one???

[sudden cove]

This guy has a problem lol

[drifting gorge]

Luckky