codm-gunsmith-help

[simple ether]

Also you can always use a recoil control attachment

[vast aspen]

both are 400ms

[simple ether]

In my test it was 1 f

[vast aspen]

wow, different results

[simple ether]

And even then you can literally use a recoil attachment for recentering

[vast aspen]

yes

[simple ether]

Rytec has bipod right?

Remind me

[midnight lantern]

.

[rich arch]

Its fine to use stippled, I think its more than a frame and it doesnt give visibility

[tribal surge]

Can anyone explain how I went into br match and picked up dlq33 (don’t have any leggy) and it had winter holidays skin so I lit just got free leggy skin for br now 😂

[simple ether]

It's barely over that
2 percent
And the argument was for quickscoping
I understand your point for hardscoping

[rich arch]

2 percent morr than 3 percent is almost twice as much

And dude position matter for any scoping

• lasers are less than a frame

[simple ether]

Now remind me
Owc suppressor,short barrel, ads stock,stippled are 4 attachments
This leaves us with laser or a perk

That's 5
Is he unable to count?

The guy you spoke to last night

[rich arch]

Can’t recall

[simple ether]

They are 17 ms
Which is a frame

[rich arch]

On rytec its 0.6 frames apparently

[simple ether]

On rytec on most fps lasers can be useless
So a recoil attachment is preferable

Rytec benefits from recoil attachment the most
Due to recentering

[rich arch]

How often does one crouch or go prone with a sniper 💀

[simple ether]

Apparently a lot for the smaller headglitches and people prone a lot on the unusual spots on firing range and highrise

There is always 1-2 prone snipers on the top areas of highrise
Don't try to deny it
There always are those 2 monkeys

Sitting there with a tundra or locus

[rich arch]

I have not played highrise in ranked in a good year

And if its pubs I could take them out with a pharo theyd suck so much

[simple ether]

Maybe that is a u problem then
Respawn domination has highrise a lot
And these are just examples
There are more

[rich arch]

Ew domination

Worst mode no wonder I havent gotten highrise

😭

[simple ether]

Well it's in respawn category so I can't ignore it in the argument

[rich arch]

Fair

[oblique valley]

fr

[midnight lantern]

.

[simple ether]

I hope I don't have to remind him RytecAMR has way faster movement speed too

And a frame faster STA delay if he wants to get into details

For jiggle peeking
1.83 on rytec vs 1.46 on dlq

Fire rate even on the bar is
120 vs 50 lol
And in game the fire rate difference is massive
Double for the rytec

Sprint
5.61 on rytec vs 5.4 on dlq

Movement
4.3 vs 4.14 on dlq
Sprint to fire
221 vs 234
You can cancel it too but that's the case that you can literally aim faster than ur opponent for the 1 frame slower ads on rytec anyway .

[rich arch]

Dlq skins more appealing

[simple ether]

Bruv

[midnight lantern]

Hmm

[austere igloo]

By far the only tec9 build I’ve found usable

[simple ether]

Scrapper grip is better by far

[austere igloo]

But I’m using that

[simple ether]

For only sprint to fire cons
And a 15 percent less ads time than serpent wrap
Scrapper halves your flinch

From 1 to 0.5

[simple ether]

Ur using serpent tho

I said scrapper

[austere igloo]

No I’m not

Look again, I’m using scrapper

[simple ether]

Oh shit I am blind

My bad lmfao

I also use the same build

[austere igloo]

[rich arch]

Hows it perform

[simple ether]

It's better than Qq9 but worse that ots9,mx9,fennec,cx9,qq10 mm,qxr etc

[austere igloo]

Lousy

[simple ether]

It's better than switchblade,lapa,Qq9 with 45 mag etc smgs

[rich arch]

It seems like it has better range performance than any of those

380ms inf ttk or smth

[rich arch]

😭 frick

[simple ether]

It does but for aggro smg
It is worse at that role specifically

It has 345 ms infinite ttk and velocity makes it 380

But that's after 18 meters

It's mobility is also much slower than most aggro smgs
So it's an upper tier smg but not meta

[austere igloo]

345ms ttk beyond 18m is honestly pretty impressive for an smg

But yea, aside from that it’s meh

[simple ether]

It's not meh
Being better than base qq9 is borderline meta but like
It's not quite there

[rich arch]

I dont notice mobility but otherwise noted

[austere igloo]

I wouldn’t even say its borderline meta

[simple ether]

Yeah for an smg it is

Unlike the grau who has 5 shot after 18.8 m on its best build 😭
Shit gun

[austere igloo]

It’s not even close to that level

[austere igloo]

& yet, these fools will still say “bUt gRaU hAs nO rEcOiL”

[rich arch]

LMAO

[austere igloo]

Like no shit sherlock, you’re using a noob-friendly gun

[rich arch]

Its the bizon of ars

[simple ether]

Base qq9 was meta before they buffed ots 9 to become just a better Qq9 base
And tec9 is better than base qq9
Same ttk both 18 m of 220 ms
Instead of 14.5 on qq9
Alongside
5 more bullets and the fastest reload time at 0.7 seconds
Cleaner irons
No recoil
And better bsa (25 vs 29)

Also it can one burst within 6 m

[simple ether]

You know what's funny?
Bizon can 4 shot to 26 meters very consistently

That's more than maximum range stack of mono archangel grau at 25 m lmfao

[rich arch]

Bizon is actually good ngl lmao

And some three tap potential in close range

some

[simple ether]

Ye 11 m

Bizon is a low or mid tier among meta weapons but it's better than 90 percent of other guns
That's why it's the best noob weapon

Can play aggro? Yes
Mid range? Yes
Good bsa for smg ? Yes
Good mobility? Yes
Big mag ? Yes
No recoil? Yes

Clean irons ? Yes
Just don't hit legs with it

[rich arch]

Exactly lmao

I abused it for a while and loved it

[austere igloo]

Bizon is a crutch for ppl who can’t handle high recoil guns

[rich arch]

Now that im better I just abuse ul bc its basically a better bizon except slow ads and mobility

[rich arch]

same with grau

[austere igloo]

Btw this is a forgotten gun

[simple ether]

It's like the Holger of Ars
Both are slower side when it comes to their categories
Yet people still think they are fast
Bad bsa
Shit range compared to other lmgs
Only easy to use

[rich arch]

True 💀

Holger users make me want to die

[simple ether]

The nerf didn't do shit
It's still great

3 m less 3 tap
Bsa is still ok

[rich arch]

Agreed ^ I just hate the sights

[simple ether]

Even non rapid fire razorback is an alternative to the bizon

40 m of 4 shot potential
Way faster than bizon
And base 4 shot is also 26 m like bizon

Just the mag size and irons are worse

Well the battle pass did just give razorback slightly better irons this season

On tier 20

[rich arch]

I havent seen it yet

ima try it out

But gosh I hate razorback sights
The bass treble bp one is even worse

[simple ether]

The sights are ok imo

Not bad at all personally
Never had issues

Also this battle pass m13 is so sexy

[rich arch]

I dont have it upgraded LMAO

[obsidian pendant]

Is it from the crates?

[rich arch]

The account id be able to use it on doesnt have the bp

Fml

[austere igloo]

no, from the bp

[obsidian pendant]

Default sights?

[austere igloo]

sadly

[simple ether]

If it is this bp's then it is different
It is angled inwards to give a better feel than base which is outwards

Not big difference but it's there

[midnight lantern]

Hmm

[austere igloo]

Qxr def feels bttr, but bruen doesn’t feel that diff from its pre-buff version

[vast aspen]

it's better than all these after those guns end their 4/5 shot range

no one votes highrise

[rich arch]

Good

[simple ether]

My lobbies do unfortunately

When the second option is apocalypse

[tawny walrus]

How good QXR in BR after the buff?

[somber tinsel]

Meta

[hoary flare]

DAMN

i was grinding it to gold just now

[minor flare]

Pretty awesome

[tawny walrus]

Yeah, 660 ms on the first range.

[minor flare]

Oh my

[austere igloo]

I'm so close to dia for it

[hoary flare]

noice

[rich arch]

is rapid fire on the razor worth it?

[midnight lantern]

Yes I think

The 2 razor back global top 10 I knew always used rapid fire

[rich arch]

16/20 on getting rapid fire💀

[rugged wigeon]

Can anyone provide me an loadout for mx9 and ak117 for br?

[somber tinsel]

Ak117
Mono,Marksman,Gran,48 mag,steady stock
Mx9

Ext light barrel
LC
5mW
Striker fg
Rustle grip
Mods: Long range, Hipfire, Ext mag
Credits for mx9: @strong monolith

[midnight lantern]

.

[rich arch]

ok the razorback is different

[muted holly]

Anyone got good outlow sniper gunsmith?

[tawny walrus]

If you want a larger mag, exchange it with FMJ.

[midnight lantern]

Real

[muted holly]

Alr thanks

[rich arch]

bro there has been 2 games where i was losing pick the razorback then won💀

[midnight lantern]

☠️

go for lb fr

the 2 i knew got bored of this game and quit a few months ago

[rugged wigeon]

Ohh thnx alot

[fallen thistle]

Wow

[somber tinsel]

Of course

@bright cloud What‘s wrong with my t25 build in #codm-gunsmith-builds

[bright cloud]

Whats wrong there is people beimg dumbasses

[somber tinsel]

Oh yes I forgot sorry

😭

[rich arch]

nah im gonna be cooked

[somber tinsel]

why dislike my type25 build ):

[digital needle]

I'd use heavy stock but light stock is fine too

[rich arch]

for funsies

[rich arch]

i think one the of the games was like 30:40 then pick razor 60:40

[tawny walrus]

Hit flinch is high.

[ornate jackal]

I prefer rtc stock

[somber tinsel]

Meanwhile type 25 being aggro ar

[tawny walrus]

Okay, and? Doesn’t that mean you need to reduce hit flinch?

[rich arch]

funsies : D

[somber tinsel]

Couldn‘t care less in aggro situations about hit flinch

[somber tinsel]

😄

[tawny walrus]

Good luck facing Fennec or any other SMG.

[somber tinsel]

Doesn‘t matter you‘ll lose with any stock against an aggro smg in aggro situations lol what‘s your point

[tawny walrus]

You’ll still have a chance, if you’ll shoot first and have reduced hit flinch.

[ornate jackal]

Btw @bright cloud do u have a groza build

Im using it for aggro but i think the build i have isnt good

I mean i like it but idk if it can be better i havent tried

[tawny walrus]

I can give you one.

[ornate jackal]

Perfect that works

[somber tinsel]

If you shoot first you‘ll always win if you have better aim also I never had problems with hit flinch

[rich arch]

😄

[ornate jackal]

Oh so the spec barrel is good? My builds okay then

[vale lichen]

I would use tac on t25

[tawny walrus]

Why are you so stubborn…
You’ll lose a gunfight, if your opponent shoot fire and you have high hit flinch.

[ornate jackal]

Ill try this and see

[somber tinsel]

Gru composite
KGB pad
Firm grip tape
40 round drum
AA laser

[tawny walrus]

Yep, it is. 4 STK up to 21 meters.

[ornate jackal]

U didnt even list a suppressor

[somber tinsel]

AA Laser >

[bright cloud]

Agency supp/aa laser
Kgb pad
50 drum mag
Firm grip
Gru composite barrel

[tawny walrus]

Imagine not using agency suppressor.

[somber tinsel]

You‘re acting like you can‘t hit anything with light stock it‘s not that bad lmao

[tawny walrus]

I’m saying, because I had many situations, when I lost gunfights, because of hit flinch kick.

[rugged wigeon]

@somber tinsel btw bro wat is that LC in mx 9 build u gave me for br

[tawny walrus]

It’s pure experience.

[somber tinsel]

What?

[rugged wigeon]

Here

[tawny walrus]

Either way, if you won’t use steady stock, you need to use Toughness then.

[tired grove]

What you mean?

[somber tinsel]

not mine btw but if you have complains go to iSleep

And the mx9 build is good lol

[rugged wigeon]

No I don't have complain for build

[somber tinsel]

but?

[rugged wigeon]

It's just that what is LC

Is it large caliber

[somber tinsel]

Large caliber mag

[tired grove]

Yeah it got buff

[tawny isle]

bad skin

[rugged wigeon]

Ohh

[somber tinsel]

yeah

[tired grove]

Because you're bad thats why you are saying that blueprint is bad

[tawny isle]

no, it really is

[rugged wigeon]

Yea in pandemic time mx9 and SKS setup I used in br

[tawny isle]

its pay to lose

defaults are a million times better

[tired grove]

For ironsight, yeah

[vale lichen]

Gib me that skinnn komi san

[tired grove]

Buy it with your money

Oh, totally forgot that BP has ended

[rugged wigeon]

I miss the the system where there were battle pass crates in bp

[vale lichen]

Noo

[tired grove]

WHY!?

Buy it with your own money

Or steal your mom's credit card

[lethal violet]

Idk what's going on but I finally get a whooping

[rugged wigeon]

Damn yoo nice

[forest bay]

Razorback or dingo which shld i use

[tired grove]

Razorback

[lethal violet]

Razorback

[forest bay]

Ok thx

[rugged wigeon]

Razor for sure

[vale lichen]

Nah, komi san best

[forest bay]

For razorback scope or ironsight

[lethal violet]

Scope

[rugged wigeon]

I have used iron sight It depends on preferences ig

[forest bay]

Classic red dot?

Ill just try

[coral fjord]

Yo

[forest bay]

Ill try both see which better

[coral fjord]

Yo guys

Are u cp player??

[lethal violet]

Yeah

[ornate jackal]

Gru doesnt have bad bsa just recoil is wonky

[coral fjord]

Omg

Im new

[lethal violet]

Ngl I like ur profile pic

[coral fjord]

Please send friend request to
NOOBnobita009e

@lethal violet thanks

[tired grove]

Suspicious

[lethal violet]

On cod?

[coral fjord]

Yeah

[lethal violet]

Alr let me do it now

[coral fjord]

No bro I play nice with all gun snipe, ar,smg,lmg,shot gun etc

[coral fjord]

Okay wait I'm coming online

[tired grove]

I DIDN'T TELL YOU

[lethal violet]

Okay

[coral fjord]

Okay srry

[tired grove]

Ok

[coral fjord]

Im gm 5 almost after one more game in mp and legendary in br

[somber tinsel]

Aa laser still negs

Agency ofc not bad lol

[forest bay]

Ahld i use ots 9

[ornate jackal]

Bro without a suppressor u show up on map..im not trying to give up my location lmao

[latent perch]

What's the best build for the m4

[somber tinsel]

You‘ll rush with groza anyway

Groza is a aggro ar lol

[ornate jackal]

Bad advice man

Thats like rushing without dead silence

Death, alerted the enemy

[somber tinsel]

mono,laser,granulated,50msg,mip light barrel short

[somber tinsel]

It‘s how groza‘s playstyle is
You can use suppressor if you don‘t want to give out your position I never said something against it
It‘s just that with AA Laser you will receive a better gun performance also for aggressive. I never had problems without suppressor.

[ornate jackal]

@bright cloud spec vs composite all i see is 2nd range being increased but its 4tap range for spec and 5tap for comp so hows comp better

[tawny walrus]

Did I ask?

[somber tinsel]

Gru Composite is good for aggro
And that‘s how grozas playstyle is, there are better Ar‘s for passive than groza. Groza is not worth using for range fights when there are much better Ar‘s for that.

[ornate jackal]

I use final gift over the season bp one cause it looks cooker

[ornate jackal]

Comp gives better range, specs isnt passive it increases ur dmg and lowers range slightly

[rich arch]

@rich arch ty for telling me to use the ul

[somber tinsel]

Range on groza isn‘t much relevant
With Gru composite barrel you don‘t things wrong. Groza is a aggro ar ans to be exact the best Aggro Ar alongside Maddox Echo so why not use it for aggro and another gun for range purpose.

[narrow glen]

@somber tinsel, 19 Server Rank

[tawny walrus]

Spec >

[tawny isle]

js 🤷‍♂️

[ornate jackal]

Im saying gru comp gives range and bv

[narrow glen]

@ornate jackal, 52 Server Rank

[tawny isle]

i meant in terms of its iron sight

[somber tinsel]

i read it wrong my bad, I thought you said spec

[tawny isle]

its like the battle pass grau

[ornate jackal]

Howd u recommend an attachment u didnt know

[latent perch]

Thanks

[somber tinsel]

You should ask Gri tho for specific information I‘m recently a beginner

[somber tinsel]

No problem

[latent perch]

Maining the m4 now cuz of the free leggy

[tawny isle]

i would use intergeated supressor over the light barrel for flex ar

[somber tinsel]

I take the L right now atp give me a seecond @ornate jackal

[forest bay]

Cbr4 or switchblade

[ornate jackal]

Switchblade

[coral fjord]

Cbr4

[ornate jackal]

Np i like ur builds just was like bewildered

[keen gazelle]

switch

[forest bay]

Im getting mixed answer some pro dude confirm pls

[ornate jackal]

Hasnt been better than switchblade since its first nerf

[forest bay]

Ok switchblade ig since 2 ppl

[coral fjord]

Im pro only

[somber tinsel]

I forgot what Gru composite does huch, just ask Gri atp, sorry for the misunderstanding

[coral fjord]

Hence confirmed

[keen gazelle]

sure listen to firstxxxbanana281…

[gilded pier]

Any long range ar gunsmith

[coral fjord]

Yeah that's why

[somber tinsel]

Cbr is ass

[forest bay]

Ok switchblade ig

[coral fjord]

Untill u have the meta

[vale lichen]

Both are trash🗿

[forest bay]

Whats good then

[vale lichen]

Qxr🗿

[twilit wolf]

This was never meta

Just use the QQ9

[somber tinsel]

It‘s the best flex smg rn lol

[somber tinsel]

Use light stock tho for little better strafe and better taper

[twilit wolf]

The onky reason why people use this is becauuse of the santa helper skin

[vale lichen]

[forest bay]

K ill use qxr

[somber tinsel]

Have you even heard of the buff?

[vale lichen]

Don't talk, when you don't know anything 🤫🤫

[twilit wolf]

Their are much better alternatives

[somber tinsel]

Like?

For flex smg qxr is the best

[vale lichen]

NA45 with special ammo

[somber tinsel]

[twilit wolf]

LIKE ANY OTHER SMG. QQ9,PP19,CRB

[rich arch]

this beast

[twilit wolf]

Kilo

[rich arch]

bolt action btw

[twilit wolf]

Kilo-141

[vale lichen]

Good, trash, trash

[rich arch]

crb nice

[vale lichen]

Nah PDW>>CBR

[rich arch]

faxx

[vale lichen]

Groza>>PDW

[rich arch]

but i prefer razorback

[twilit wolf]

Also the CX-9 exist

[forest bay]

Fennec?

[rich arch]

decent

[forest bay]

Is cx9 or razorback better

[vale lichen]

Was meta like like.... 6months ago💀

[rich arch]

cx9

[vale lichen]

Cx9

[rich arch]

its still good some how

[forest bay]

Is cx9 the best smg

[rich arch]

i would say so

[vale lichen]

Nah, depends the playstyle

Qxr if you ask me

[forest bay]

Build?

[ornate jackal]

Can we make m4lmg meta for like 2 days

[rich arch]

rds?

[vale lichen]

Qq9,fennec, cx9 also an option

[ornate jackal]

Actually make it meta for april fools

[forest bay]

Whats rds

[rich arch]

red dot

[ornate jackal]

[forest bay]

Nah

[vale lichen]

Avg gobal lb player in chat

[forest bay]

I dont use red dots

[rich arch]

most common build

[forest bay]

Thx

[proven hare]

Is it good?

[vale lichen]

Yes

[ornate jackal]

Im actually at 100 on display im gonna fall off soon😔

[vale lichen]

RIP

I would recommend you to get #┃weapon-master-request

Soon

[somber tinsel]

CBR is ass
PP19 doesn‘t come close to Qxr it‘s only a eou smg
QQ9 doesn‘t have better range than Qxr and Qxr is better for extreme aggro

[bright cloud]

Better ttk and 7.5 more meters 4 shot is huge

[vale lichen]

Cx9 for aggro aggrooo

[ornate jackal]

Thats not 4 shot its 5

4 to upper body

[bright cloud]

Yes it is

[ornate jackal]

5 to lower

[bright cloud]

1 chest needed pretty consistent

[ornate jackal]

Only 1? Surprising

[vast aspen]

composite>

[tawny walrus]

Better 4 STK range + higher chances of 5 STK on third distance.

[vast aspen]

yeah that's composite

💀

[tawny walrus]

Nuh uh, mil-spec.

[ornate jackal]

Ill just use both and compare

[vast aspen]

bro forgot attachment names

[ornate jackal]

Dmg range vs damage

[vast aspen]

gru composite gives more range and BV

[vast aspen]

gru man>

[tawny walrus]

I’ll take guaranteed 4 STK.

Spec in fact increases guaranteed 4 STK distance, while GRU only increases first guaranteed and possible 4 STK distance.

[bright cloud]

Here is thing second range is slower ttk

[bright cloud]

Second ramge 4 shot is pretty consistent

[vast aspen]

so you'll sacrifice 8m of range and BV for 0 downsides for your inability to hit 1chest

[tawny walrus]

I don’t like gambling.

[tawny walrus]

Yes.

Oh, by the way, iSleep recommended me to use Spec barrel.

[vast aspen]

😂

[tawny walrus]

I wanted to use GRU barrel at first, but then, he opened my eyes.

[bright cloud]

Opened your eyes?

[tawny walrus]

Yep.

[bright cloud]

Tf does that mean

Just say he convinced you

[tawny walrus]

That Spec is better than GRU.

[bright cloud]

Its better hitboxes vs better range and bv. If you are gonna take the consistency i wouldnt use groza but smth else

[tawny walrus]

BV for close quarters assault rifle. How convenient.

[bright cloud]

Slower ttk on second ramge technicly but still its ab extra ramge

[tawny walrus]

Whatever. I won’t use this rifle anymore.

[bright cloud]

You should its meta with only downside being no supp

[vast aspen]

20m.of range where you'll get destroyed by every cqc smg

[bright cloud]

Its like em2 vs drh but diff in consistency is smaller and em2 has other stats better too

[vast aspen]

vs 28m of range where you have chances of beating the smgs including qxr

[tawny walrus]

What’s the reason to use Groza, if it will be outdone by an SMG?

[bright cloud]

I cant say milspec is bad but kinda doesnt make sense

[bright cloud]

Cqc yes

It plays similar to flex smg like pdw and qxr

Its like saying why use qxr rn

[ornate jackal]

I prefer the strafe it gives me cause i have no space for stock

[shadow hound]

ok bro

[vast aspen]

you remove aa laser instead

[ornate jackal]

I dont use it

[vast aspen]

yeah cuz you're using milspec lmao

[ornate jackal]

I use bo fg

[vast aspen]

ok

black ops foregrip

[bright cloud]

I mean everything he said is correct. Still no argument on dlq>rytec

[somber tinsel]

milspec useless for cqc?

[vast aspen]

it is fine for cqc cuz faster strafe

[tawny walrus]

Lame.

[bright cloud]

It limits you to cqc. Problem? You are hsing groza

[bright cloud]

Why eb?

[vast aspen]

4.5m less

[vast aspen]

y not

[simple ether]

Mil spec useless as shit

[tawny walrus]

Because it’s the meta attachment, no?

[somber tinsel]

Oh yes it‘s limiting you to 20meters right?

[bright cloud]

For aggro

[shadow hound]

Nah

[simple ether]

Yup

[bright cloud]

Yes. Where as gru+aa laser is 27m

[bright cloud]

So you lost lmao

[tawny walrus]

Pff… You didn’t see how Kalo used enhanced bolt.

[vast aspen]

weren't his clips non eb lmao

[simple ether]

Kalo also uses non eb

[bright cloud]

I did but still non eb for flex. Compare like that

[simple ether]

Dong foregrip qxr at 30 m

Dong as in ranger fg

[somber tinsel]

I really need to gain more knowledge

I was baited bruh even tho I was on the right I thought mil spec was better for a sec

[vast aspen]

do u know m16 has infinite 4 tap potential

[simple ether]

If ur gonna argue with people
Just memorize shit

[bright cloud]

She already does that

[somber tinsel]

I can‘t memorize everything uwu

[tawny walrus]

I used ricey’s build and it melts. But I didn’t like it, because I don’t like passive gameplay.

[somber tinsel]

Better than Man O War?

[bright cloud]

Here is thing milspec limits you to closer range which then question comes of why use groza than?

[bright cloud]

Wouldnt compare but you can say so

[vast aspen]

what is MoW hitbox

for 4 shot

[simple ether]

Ricey ay?
The guy who as a girl with big eyes pfp?

[somber tinsel]

Why would I want to be limited to closer range? That doesn‘t make sense also range helps for aggro situations no?

[vast aspen]

orca

[bright cloud]

Yeah

[simple ether]

Yes orca

[bright cloud]

Mislepc is good for aggro. But it isnt eb good making it not worth it

[simple ether]

I am a good friend of orca

[somber tinsel]

also about the hit flinch on my type 25 is crazy lol

[vast aspen]

(this is my build)

[tawny walrus]

@ruby iris

[simple ether]

@tawny walrus you like isleep and ricey right?

[vale lichen]

Nah

[somber tinsel]

Idk :/

[vast aspen]

You love to kiss men

[simple ether]

Yeah I am best friends with ricey at this point

[tawny walrus]

Yuh. I ask them whether I don’t know how to build guns.

[vale lichen]

No you

[vast aspen]

no u

[vale lichen]

Uuuuu

[simple ether]

Isleep and us 3 are literally GEs in same group so we did discuss mil spec

[ruby iris]

Sup @simple ether

[simple ether]

Hai broski

[ruby iris]

I just 36*'ed moc

[paper palm]

Bro, someone please give me a solid Tec 9 build

[somber tinsel]

Milspec good for aggro, but limits you and you will get shredded after 20meters and with gru composite it‘s already a ar with pdw trait so I couldn‘t care less about Milspec if it literally limits me at 20m lol

[simple ether]

Oh my

[ruby iris]

[simple ether]

I can only ever clear till moc 10 at best

[ruby iris]

Bailu hard carried

Stronk heal

[simple ether]

😭

[tawny walrus]

I mastered Groza before the recoil buff.

[bright cloud]

Cool. I only realised the potential when i heard ab buff

[ruby iris]

I cant wait til 25th march

[somber tinsel]

@bright cloud I nuked with Nailgun almost lol

[vast aspen]

21st March

[ruby iris]

[ruby iris]

L

[vast aspen]

Veteran lobby or something

[ruby iris]

25th march

[somber tinsel]

No, but bad leggy players

[tawny walrus]

However, I had to use BO grip… ;-;

[ruby iris]

S4 test server

[somber tinsel]

I‘m top 5k on the main Joseph

[vast aspen]

21st March warzone mobile version!

[simple ether]

2.1 coming?

[ruby iris]

Do i look like i give a fuck about wzm

[bright cloud]

Lmao

[vast aspen]

oh it's nes sorry I thought it's Castellunos

[ruby iris]

2.1 is 26th iirc

[bright cloud]

Yes

[tawny walrus]

My man.

[somber tinsel]

Ello uwu

[vast aspen]

yes

[simple ether]

Hmm
Ogae

[ruby iris]

[somber tinsel]

@bright cloud what happened to spetnaz on groza?

[bright cloud]

[bright cloud]

The stock? Use kgb

[tawny walrus]

Oh, right, I wanted to touch some grass (snow) before sleep.

[ruby iris]

25th will be s4 test server

[somber tinsel]

But wasn‘t spetnaz once the better? I got it recommended often some time ago

[ruby iris]

I fucking hope they dont delay it again

[rich arch]

Joseph just leaked Fei's pfp

[vast aspen]

💀

[rich arch]

😭

[simple ether]

Lol yeah

[ruby iris]

Racist pfp

[vast aspen]

i deleted it

[somber tinsel]

@vast aspen How you like my Type25 build? Or does the stock make it a bad build in your opinion?

[vast aspen]

HUH!

[bright cloud]

They are close but rly kgb js better

[vast aspen]

where

[simple ether]

Fei bonked me for expressing my love for child abuse today 😭

[somber tinsel]

Oh okay

[somber tinsel]

#codm-gunsmith-builds

[ruby iris]

That character is racist ingame

[vast aspen]

what does she do

[rich arch]

You've had chloe since forever now

[ruby iris]

Like just straight up a racist

[simple ether]

Chicken wing boy is crazy

[ruby iris]

Ye

[somber tinsel]

Btw is it valid what I wrote in cygnoux server in builds

[bright cloud]

Lock has saved pics of fanta on his phone

[vast aspen]

nice build

[vast aspen]

I need fanta pics

[bright cloud]

I dislike m16 build personally

[bright cloud]

Lock says he deleted them(he didnt for sure)

[vast aspen]

I have image saved of 2 women in my gallery

[somber tinsel]

Apparently I will lose gunfights against fennec and aggro smg‘s and with steady stock I have a higher chance due to flinch even tho no matter what attachments you use a type25 will not beat fennec aggro

[somber tinsel]

Why? GE‘s told me to build like that

[simple ether]

I don't save women pictures on cord
Feels creepy

[somber tinsel]

You better don‘t

[vast aspen]

I will save your picture;)

[bright cloud]

No its good build but its a skill issue build kind of.

[ruby iris]

She's racist

[somber tinsel]

So it can have better performance with the cost of you have to have skill?

[bright cloud]

Yes.

[somber tinsel]

I don‘t have skill issues imo, tell me your build

[vast aspen]

wow

[bright cloud]

For that tac instead of mono and light instesd of no

[somber tinsel]

Mono on sx9 uwu

[simple ether]

He's still on the copium
Leave him alone

[somber tinsel]

@simple ether Krig graph when uwu

[simple ether]

Never

[bright cloud]

Next is milspec on groza

[somber tinsel]

F you bastard

[simple ether]

I have prohibited graphs for the time being lmfao

[bright cloud]

Btw i dunno if zi saw grazah(its done)

[bright cloud]

But grazah is done

[simple ether]

Post that ofcourse
But that's the last one

[somber tinsel]

@vast aspen want me to teach you some things abt gunsmithing? do you know what ttk is?

[vast aspen]

yes teach me , I don't know anything

[bright cloud]

Yeah. And add aa laser build below

And then ill start postin old posts

[tawny walrus]

I run the championship build for SX9 with mono.

[simple ether]

Ur responsib

[bright cloud]

Nuh uh no perms

[simple ether]

I can't ping yknow

[bright cloud]

That is?

[ruby iris]

[somber tinsel]

Krig graph when uwu?

[tawny walrus]

Mono
Extended barrel
Light stock
Disable
Mag

[bright cloud]

When cyg becomes active

[somber tinsel]

So never?

[bright cloud]

[somber tinsel]

Disable quite useless on that aggro smg

[bright cloud]

Oh wow, OH WOW

[simple ether]

I have the title of manager of ge yet I still have no ping perms for that channel

[tawny walrus]

But yet, pros use it.

[bright cloud]

Pros use a lot of things. This is one of tgem

[somber tinsel]

But yet, pro‘s have ass builds many times and that isn‘t a valid argument.

[simple ether]

Pros
Are monkeys.

Disable is quite literally the worst attachment on sx9
You never wanna hit legs with sx9
Never

[tawny walrus]

I used some of their builds and they never let me down.

[bright cloud]

Lmao

[somber tinsel]

Sx9 kills so fast in cqc you will not feel the difference with or without just like on any other aggro smg

[ruby iris]

Disable is like a safe fail, if you got nothing else to slap on, why not disable

[bright cloud]

Not only that but you shouldnt hit legs on sx9

[faint sable]

Some builds are good some are awful just depends

[tawny walrus]

I’m fine with that.

[somber tinsel]

Exactly that too lol

[simple ether]

Hit legs and it will increase ur stk by 1 or 2
Which is crap

[bright cloud]

Except sou have gran

[somber tinsel]

Yes uwu

[tawny walrus]

I could attach red dot on it, but come on - it isn’t serious.

[bright cloud]

You are also fine with using milspec making groza useless

[ornate jackal]

I can’t seriously use disable on switch

[somber tinsel]

It‘s useless

[simple ether]

Just use the standard
Mono/tac supp, granulated,41 round,light stock and extended barrel

[somber tinsel]

like literally

[tawny walrus]

Then how I managed to get mastery for it and become MVP almost all the time?

[somber tinsel]

Mono betta uwu

[ruby iris]

Ion think you need gran on switch if you play cqc

[simple ether]

Lack of skill issue

[ornate jackal]

So far using comp over spec the recoils a little worse

[bright cloud]

Cuz you are good player? Tf argument is that

[bright cloud]

For bad hitboxes on sx9 you do

[keen gazelle]

even 30 bsa gets you some good range for cqc

[somber tinsel]

I nuked with Nailgun almost that makes nailgun a very good gun @bright cloud

Trust me

[bright cloud]

Yea but range better

[simple ether]

Both have same recoil....
No downsides on either

[bright cloud]

Yea flawed argument

[simple ether]

Gru comp is range and bv for no cons

[somber tinsel]

LMAO

[tired grove]

Dude that barrel is useful

Just minus some damage range

[somber tinsel]

Limits you to 20m after that you‘re cooked
the 6+ damage is almost useless

[bright cloud]

If you gonna use milspec dont use groza

Use qq10 or sum

[simple ether]

7 meters worse range than Gru composite

[ornate jackal]

Not what’s meant tho, increased bv, bullets fly faster making it seem like it has more recoil

[tired grove]

Then what barrel should I use?

[vast aspen]

???

[tawny walrus]

The problem is even if you attach GRU barrel, it won’t solve Groza’s problems. I’d rather to have guaranteed 4 shot distance, rather than rely on luck.

[keen gazelle]

handling, some people just like using a gun for its overall handling

but stats wise then idk abt you guys lol

[bright cloud]

Gru composite

[vast aspen]

handling is exact same lmao.

[simple ether]

I need to confirm the visual speed of bullets flying for mp
Cuz that shit is kinda irrelevant within the 2 frame range
Unless ur using groza beyond 30 m for God knows what reason

[tired grove]

Yeah, I used it some times

[ruby iris]

Milspec have better handling

[tired grove]

It's mid

[bright cloud]

It will make your range much better. 4 shot is extremely consistent

[ornate jackal]

Increased bv affects handling for me its a skill issue for me its why for weapons like mac10 i dont use taskforce bar even tho its the better option

[tawny walrus]

Oh, right, almost forgot that Spec gives small bonus to movement.

[vast aspen]

more strafe isn't better handling

[bright cloud]

Why

[vast aspen]

wut, so u don't want better ttk?

[somber tinsel]

27m effective range gru composite
vs spec that limits you to 20m you decide

[ruby iris]

@strong monolith
Milspec or gru comp?

[tired grove]

Who cares about range for Groza!

[strong monolith]

Gru

[ruby iris]

[tired grove]

See

[tawny walrus]

0_0

[simple ether]

Oh god now I see why these two servers have a crappy rep.
People worse than campers on duty general public

[vast aspen]

everyone that doesn't want to die to cqc smgs

[ruby iris]

[ornate jackal]

I play smoother without yes, i use the dmg range increasing bar for mac without bv

[vast aspen]

uh shouko komi is from campers

[tired grove]

Sometimes Gru barrel will win

[somber tinsel]

It actually is important, and much more useful the difference is huge, and it doesn‘t limit you to 20m
The pro‘s spec has are so wack

[tired grove]

I see

[tawny walrus]

Rude. ;-;

[vast aspen]

@simple ether u know what make a gru vs mil spec analysis

[ornate jackal]

Idk how to explain it, its just a skull issue

[simple ether]

Same hive mind braincell.

Our existence i.e kith, cygnoux,path won't be necessary if people were willing to check stats themselves

[simple ether]

Not specifically targetting you

[bright cloud]

Anyone normal?

[ornate jackal]

Stats isnt equal to feel

[tired grove]

Now I believe, that, Gru barrel is better, too

[bright cloud]

Bruh

[ornate jackal]

Stats isnt equal to compatibility

[simple ether]

There's feel
Then there's copium
Gru and mil spec have no visual changes on the gun

[strong monolith]

Wait fok

[bright cloud]

Gru has better range ttk at range

[strong monolith]

I made a mistake

[vast aspen]

he is correct

[bright cloud]

No gru is better but he says you said milspec

[tired grove]

Yeah, I know

[bright cloud]

You didnt

[ornate jackal]

Not to yall, there is to me

[somber tinsel]

So with gru compostite you have
27meters
and with Spec it limits to 20 meters
while gru‘s pros are very good and effective since range is important also on aggro guns and situations
and if you have spec barrel it will limit you to 20 meters after that you will get cooked despite the pro‘s of spec being 6+ damage some ads time and idk what the other was it‘s not worth it
This is abt it

[strong monolith]

Did I somehow mismatch the names?

[bright cloud]

I know but why did guy said isleep reccomends milspec then

[vast aspen]

you didn't

[bright cloud]

Gru range milspec damage barrel

[vast aspen]

you're good to go

[tired grove]

Calm down, I got it

[strong monolith]

I used to say MS barrel back then

[simple ether]

Gru is 27 m effective range + bv
Mil spec DMG barrel 20 m effective range

[vast aspen]

i hate -60 ammo count!!!

[ornate jackal]

For reference these are the barrels

[bright cloud]

Guy said you ,,enligthened him"

[ruby iris]

Milspec is -range +dmg +strafe

Gru is more range

[somber tinsel]

That +6%damage LMAO

[tawny walrus]

How long we have Groza barrels debate?

[vast aspen]

8 hours

[ornate jackal]

Not +6 its 6%

[strong monolith]

It was after where I discussed with Ary
We concluded that Gru barrel better

[simple ether]

Oh also reminder to Cqc d riders for mil spec
Mil spec groza 2 frames delay starts at 18-19 m vs 15 m on mil spec

[bright cloud]

Why?

[somber tinsel]

Helps for 5 shotting on groza , that‘s about it

[tawny walrus]

lmao

[simple ether]

Ary is the worst guy for gunsmith at this point .
Why is he even sod
Nobody likes his builds

[ornate jackal]

How did the debate spark up again

[strong monolith]

Dammit I made the mistake again

[ruby iris]

[bright cloud]

Dmg makes 4 shot guaranteed but non milspec is already consistent(1/4 chest)

[ruby iris]

The isleep is iwaking today

[strong monolith]

I meant Gru barrel
Typo

[somber tinsel]

Well someone asked for groza loadout I gave one with Gru composite that other dude or girl or whatever has the spec on, I said that gru is better and now we‘re here

[ornate jackal]

[strong monolith]

Mainly because of this reason yeah

[somber tinsel]

Groza already has good consistency on 4 shot with 1 chest hit no? so spec not needed

[simple ether]

He still made the worst Gru build I have ever seen
Also you guys ended up recommending vdv reinforced on your video

[bright cloud]

@tawny walrus so we all agree gru is better

[tawny walrus]

I understood already lol.

[simple ether]

Why in the hell is vdv reinforced alongside groza without a stock recommended on path.exe
Tf is that brainrot

[strong monolith]

iirc he later took it off (Not shown on any vid tho)

[tawny walrus]

But I have nothing to do with this information, since I won’t use it again.

[bright cloud]

You should but okay

[ornate jackal]

Groza doesnt need a stock

[bright cloud]

[tawny walrus]

I have Tec-9 to grind.

[ornate jackal]

There are better guns, and komi likes amax

[bright cloud]

Oh so you just use new guns?

[tawny walrus]

Extremely disagreed with that.

[strong monolith]

Anyway I am making a google doc for all the BR builds

[simple ether]

Ugghh
Yeah this explains this server's reputation

[narrow glen]

@simple ether, 18 Server Rank

[bright cloud]

A WHAT

[tawny walrus]

Yes, because I got mastery and diamond on everything, so there’s nothing to grind for me left.

[ruby iris]

[bright cloud]

Fair ig

[vast aspen]

mil spec 5 shot:- 1 chest + 1 upper arm
gru 5 shot:- 2 chest + 2 upper arm

[strong monolith]

Just an archive for all my builds

[bright cloud]

Bruh

[vast aspen]

ooo like heidern

[simple ether]

If you'd be willing to share.
It would help with providing builds to general public in channels

[strong monolith]

So if someone asks me for builds, they can just refer to it

[bright cloud]

Heidern has diamond guns archive for mp

[vast aspen]

yeah

[simple ether]

I wanted to Collab with you anyway I'll be providing credit to you for whatever help you provide

[ruby iris]

I still lack fundings for these

[strong monolith]

Aight bet

[ruby iris]

Fuck you vng

[simple ether]

He's got diamond on 100+ weapons

He's got mp builds for every gun

[vast aspen]

no life

[tawny walrus]

I wanted that RyTec, but CODM said “nuh uh”.

[vast aspen]

but now job took over him

[simple ether]

Taz era heidern was the ultimate no lifer

Taz(heidern) was the first friend i made in cygnoux

[ruby iris]

I could prolly get one of the qq9s in 30 pulls

And get the rytec with the 100 pity

If i had funds

[tawny walrus]

I missed the moment when CODM became gacha.

[clear tide]

lmao ricey fell in love with that qq9 blueprint

[strong monolith]

Me who only needs 60 more games on Tec9 to get all diamond

[vast aspen]

wow

all guns diamond?

[clear tide]

are you serious sleep?

[ruby iris]

It is just

[strong monolith]

Yeah

[ruby iris]

Good

[strong monolith]

Including the damn launchers

[ruby iris]

Very

[vast aspen]

how many diamond u got

[clear tide]

idk i barely grind diamond

[somber tinsel]

All guns diamond is crazy

[vast aspen]

lmao same

[clear tide]

probably just meta weapons

[strong monolith]

I took a break for 2 weeks after getting D13

[vast aspen]

I got like 6-7

[simple ether]

Nice

[clear tide]

i have damascus and that’s the only camo i grind

[ruby iris]

[clear tide]

so if i get diamond it’s because i use that gun a lot

[ruby iris]

I need it

[tawny walrus]

😶

[simple ether]

I don't grind shit
I got 1 diamond and i got bored

[clear tide]

so yeah, just meta weapons

[strong monolith]

You'll see my archive having all diamond except for Tec9 (Until I get it diamond ofc)

[somber tinsel]

I want Em2 mythic diamond and I‘m too lazy to grind

[vast aspen]

Just grind

@somber tinsel gimme ur acc I'll grind it for you

[bright cloud]

@vast aspen which one of us two is gonna grind diamonds on mythics

[strong monolith]

What I do is get everything diamond so I only need to get 1 gun diamond every season

[ruby iris]

All reticle grind when

[clear tide]

me with damascus

[vast aspen]

hmm

[bright cloud]

I actually wanted to do that at one point

[simple ether]

I like this reticle a lot on my red dot for my mow or oden

^

This point thingy

[vast aspen]

all tournment camo on all guns grind

[clear tide]

blue dot is the only thing you need

[vast aspen]

go

[strong monolith]

Its funny that I have all the reticles but I don't recall the grind

[somber tinsel]

[vast aspen]

who can do this?

@somber tinsel can for sure

[strong monolith]

This one I tried doing but I have actual things to do so hell no

[simple ether]

Ahh so it's you
No wonder why

[bright cloud]

Or just use custpm crosshair and base irons

[ruby iris]

Bro gon charge $1k

[vast aspen]

or just throw away your phone in the dustbin

[clear tide]

huh?

[clear tide]

ewwww

[simple ether]

Some message popped up
Big booty Latinos near you

On my phone
So it's you :lockin:

[clear tide]

why are you looking for big booty latinos?

[simple ether]

Random notification

[simple ether]

Against tos no?

[somber tinsel]

iSleep my br helper in need uwu @strong monolith Ots or qq9 in br

[bright cloud]

If you are on samsung no

[bright cloud]

Wha

[strong monolith]

QQ9 because of the TTK potential

[clear tide]

guys em2 with rds it’s not that bad

[vast aspen]

guys em2 with mythic skin is not bad

[somber tinsel]

❤️ Thanks

[strong monolith]

OTs for hipfire and anti vehicle

[ornate jackal]

I wanna debate smth

Not debate its a genuine question

[vale lichen]

Em2 mythic with rds is goated

[ornate jackal]

Is ak47 or mow better

[somber tinsel]

Let‘s debate I take

Switchblade you take Qxr

[vast aspen]

pls never speak again 🙏🏿

[vale lichen]

[vast aspen]

ak47

[bright cloud]

Ak for passive flex mow for passive

[somber tinsel]

different playstyles
Ak47 is passive flex
mow is passive only

[simple ether]

Man heidern is just getting more and more insane day by day

[vast aspen]

yes he muted me for 3 days

[bright cloud]

Yeah noticed it too

[bright cloud]

Why

[vast aspen]

for N word I said 3 days ago

[simple ether]

He said n word

[somber tinsel]

He not doing well I think

[simple ether]

Job is stressful

[tawny walrus]

Damn.

[simple ether]

Heidern used to be cheerful and flirty
Now he's just angry and flirty

[somber tinsel]

Real

[vast aspen]

🤫 🧏

[simple ether]

All he does now is yell,give stats and have Hitman rizz

[somber tinsel]

Aggressive flirting:o

[vast aspen]

tell him to stop yelling

and insulting you

[ornate jackal]

I kinda prefer mow for passive flex

[somber tinsel]

I use 5“3 extended barrel on krig hehe (I don‘t)

[simple ether]

Usable

[somber tinsel]

Yesh

[simple ether]

Cavalry and extended both usable if u don't like tfb recoil

[somber tinsel]

Ayo

[ruby iris]

I dont run barrels on krig

[somber tinsel]

[simple ether]

Also an option

[ruby iris]

[somber tinsel]

💀

[simple ether]

Cygnoux did say barrel not mandatory on krig

[vast aspen]

Fatboy

got 0.2 KD

[vale lichen]

Rookie i have 0.00069

[vast aspen]

rookie I have 0

[vale lichen]

I have negative

[vast aspen]

omg how!!

negative death!?

[vale lichen]

Krill issue krill issue

[stray urchin]

Anyone got a good krm build?

[upper fiber]

Hi can you plass give my brother a free DL Q33-lotus flames uid: 72396114534061177892

[vast aspen]

no

[vast aspen]

marauder suppressor, extended barrel (the light one not the +2 magazine), no stock, 5mW, extended mag/stippled

[tawny walrus]

Dreaming is a good thing.

[vast aspen]

😂😂

[vast dagger]

KRM-262-1C2A4A5E6C

This is the best krm build in my opinion

many people used it

[bright cloud]

Replace tac laswr with 1mw and speed up after kill with granukated grip

[bright cloud]

Or for krm id just remove gran and use smth else and hipfire only.but okay

[vast dagger]

I always used zoom

[bright cloud]

Zoom?

[vast dagger]

yes

[bright cloud]

Wdym by zoom?

[vast dagger]

I rarely use hip fire on krm

[bright cloud]

Then dont use krm

Krm is hipfire shotgun

[vast dagger]

I'm good at krm other shotgun I can't event use

[bright cloud]

What other shotguns?

[vast dagger]

Like BY

[bright cloud]

I mean only reason youd use krm is exactly for hipfire

[bright cloud]

With slugs?

[vast dagger]

everything lol

[bright cloud]

Krm is hipfire shotgun but okay idk what to tell you

[vast dagger]

See my clip on #codm-clips but pls turn off the volume

[bright cloud]

Krm id hipfire shotgun
By15 and r90 are for ads

@vast dagger yea idk why you are usin krm for your playstyle

[vast dagger]

oh lemme try by and r90 later if it good I will use it when

[bright cloud]

You probably wont see immidiate improvement. Those weapons are objectively better for ads, just need using to

[vast dagger]

I'm so good at this shotgun. Maybe i rarely to use other shotgun

But sometime when I used BY15 I'm always died lol

[bright cloud]

Btw
By15-slugs, no stock,marauder suppresor, extended barrel, tactical laser
R9-heavy smoothbore, choke, extended barrel, granulated grip, tac laser

[bright cloud]

You are used to krm animation ig. But it is worse

[vast dagger]

it good tho

Btw lemme try r9

[bright cloud]

For hipfire

[vast dagger]

both is good (hip fire can't use when you're reloading)

[vast aspen]

r9 is so broken

I got one tapped by r9 user at 18m

[ornate jackal]

Me when i face jak and by15 slug pros:

[bright cloud]

By is that on drugs but harder to use

[vast aspen]

r9 is still insane

[ornate jackal]

Ye it is

[bright cloud]

Yeah

[vast aspen]

cuz u can 2 tap

like 40m

[haughty bluff]

Striker campers :

[ornate jackal]

What happened to that one guy who posted striker vids

Bro got global and dipped

[haughty bluff]

[native canopy]

Oh

Uh anglesia was his name right?

[ornate jackal]

Think so

[native canopy]

Yeah we had him added

I haven’t heard from him either

Prolly busy with life

[midnight lantern]

Hmm

[pulsar carbon]

what's the best build for the m4 black gold royal

[pulsar carbon]

he looks okay tbh even tho he's fat

[pulsar carbon]

nah I'd win(I made this edit)

[midnight lantern]

Tis really good 🔥🔥

Let him cook

[pulsar carbon]

thx

[mellow kraken]

Brazil mentioned

[native canopy]

Says i got pinged here

[shadow briar]

how come?

[shadow briar]

type 19 saw build is cursed as fuck lmao

[clear tide]

mono
short barrel
tac laser
50 mag
gran

[ornate jackal]

@unreal gale Send ur cx9 build pls

The one with ranger fg

[unreal gale]

I don't have one with ranger grip

this is what I use

[clear tide]

🤢

[unreal gale]

I did try it with operator grip

and it beams better at like 25m+

but why you'd need to beam at 25m with a cx9 is a bigger question

the build is the same as the one above but soh to op grip

I guess you unlock ability to beam shipment headglitches from across the map

which is uhh, potentially useful ig

[ornate jackal]

Same difference

[unreal gale]

uhh it's pretty different actually xD

[viscid belfry]

[shadow briar]

Cx9 with fg is… interesting

[unreal gale]

it's literally just cx9 but extra recoil for headglitches

I don't really recommend since you shouldn't be challenging headglitches like that with a cx9 anyway

but I don't play smgs and I usually challenge those headglitches so I built it for my playstyle

[shadow briar]

i just ran a match of shipment hp with it

not worth imho

theres better ways to challenge a headglitch with a cx9 than running it head-on

and for non-headglitch it does nothing

just running SoH gets you more value imho

[unreal gale]

I mean shipment you ofc want the fast reload

and challenging headglitches head on with a cx9 miht not be a smart idea normally, but shipment is exactly where you ego chal people because you're better xD

[shadow briar]

outside shipment, where are you getting the close range headglitches where a super-stable cx9 would shine though

[unreal gale]

no where, which is why I don't recommend it

[shadow briar]

tldr cx9 is aggo smg, play it like one

[bright cloud]

Yes

[unreal gale]

did you read like a single thing I said?

because that conclusion tells me my whole point just flew over your head

[gentle sorrel]

What’s a good icr build?

[queen parcel]

Found this to be the most annoying build in Shipment hp

[shadow briar]

not even molly spamming?

[queen parcel]

No

Is super quick and mobile

[shadow briar]

dude, theres WAY worse shit that that in hp shipment lmao

[clear tide]

integ supp
no stock
tac laser
fast ext mag
gran

[queen parcel]

Yes, kinda is a pea shooter lol but I like it tons

[shadow briar]

im not talking about the gun

double molotov spam is far worse than any gun on shipment

[ruby stag]

Anyone got some good sense not too fast not too slow

Some players have good sense for sniper and for guns it is too fast and some have good sens for guns and for sniper it is shit

[unreal gale]

so just use the sniper one for your sniper sens and the gun for gun sens...