codm-gunsmith-help

[narrow glen]

@lean burrow, 9 Server Rank

[ornate jackal]

U should update your list there are a few of these that arent bad, some of these are actually meta

Literally the only bad guns youve listed are like groza and mow. Maybe m4lmg

[strong monolith]

This list is exclusively for BR

None of these guns are good there

[ornate jackal]

Ah we talking br

[strong monolith]

I am not that mentally ill to call Kilo and Grau bad

In MP

[ornate jackal]

I still have a few questions tho why is mlg, kilo, ul and m16 not considered good in br

[ruby iris]

Lk:

M13:

Bruen:

Fucking amax:

S36 (obv):

[strong monolith]

M4LMG, M16 and Kilo, some of the worst long range TTK in the game
UL no reason to use over other LMGs

[ornate jackal]

Ik br meta but why are they bad

Gotcha

[ruby iris]

Make a top 10 worst guns in br

Give it to an mp player

Doesnt specify it's for br

[austere igloo]

Where’s the swordfish & the pharo

Those 2 belong there too

[strong monolith]

Swordfish at least has competitive long range TTK with 0 recoil, so it has a use
Pharo also has a funny bug that lets you skip the burst delay

[rich arch]

Fr5.56 has amazging bsa at least
And ul is solid

[austere igloo]

Whatever

I still won’t use those shit

[strong monolith]

The problem the FR is that the long range TTK is down horrendous

[rich arch]

Fair

[austere igloo]

Also m16 is bad in br huh?

& KN too

[austere igloo]

There goes my fav ar of old times

I used to fav that ar…until it fell off

[strong monolith]

Yeah
Unlike the swordfish, it doesn't have competitive TTK or even the accuracy to be somewhat viable

[austere igloo]

Shame

[strong monolith]

And KN
Its an interesting case because its TTK is actually on par with the LK
But what kills it is the recoil
It is bad to the point where you can never take fights beyond 50m no matter how much recoil you stack

[austere igloo]

Again, shame

[strong monolith]

You can put every single recoil reduction attachment and it will still kick like a mule starting from mid spray

[austere igloo]

I would use kn if it not for its stupid recoil

[austere igloo]

I hate that it’s like that

It was my fav for a while

But then it just fell off & never recovered

& man-o-war too, another waste of potential

I had high expectations for that thing

[strong monolith]

It just needs a damage buff
Going from 37-30-28 to 40-30

[austere igloo]

& hvk…do I even need to say why I hate that ar in br?

[austere igloo]

No doubt its prowess is undisputed in mp, but it just falls flat in br

[strong monolith]

It used to be god tier but they killed it

[austere igloo]

Also u say grau is bad in br yet I see a shit load of ppl using it

[rich arch]

Lol let the hvk suck in br at least

[rich arch]

Its great in br just overused

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

like cbr previously

[strong monolith]

It used to have S36 TTK back then which was considered godly since S36 has yet to be buffed

[rich arch]

How do you not hate the gun after playing ranked 💀😭

[austere igloo]

Now S36 is the shit

[austere igloo]

That’s the thing…I don’t

[rich arch]

Not in br

[rich arch]

Hvk abuser…?

[unreal gale]

hvk feels amazing though

[austere igloo]

As in…I don’t…ranked

[strong monolith]

Yeah
One of the most overrated ARs in BR
I have dealt with so many ppl claiming that it is the best AR

[rich arch]

I kinda hate it 😭

[austere igloo]

Not the gun

[rich arch]

Oh lol

[austere igloo]

Those people are braindead

[rich arch]

It and sks are my worst enemies rn, anything else I can counter

[austere igloo]

S36 hasn’t let me down ever since I started using it in br

[austere igloo]

& I shall continue using it even aft mastery

[strong monolith]

HVK was like the S36's predecessor

[austere igloo]

It’s just too goated to pass up

[austere igloo]

I know

[rich arch]

Why stop using guns after mastery

[austere igloo]

So that I can master other guns?

[rich arch]

Also oden is known to be great in br but why is it never used in ranked?

[austere igloo]

I mean, I’m not mad enough to grind lbs

[rich arch]

Just use what works best

[austere igloo]

Bcoz it’s not great in mp

[austere igloo]

‘Meta abuser’

[rich arch]

…it either 2 taps or 3 taps whats not to love

[rich arch]

Nah lol ive been using oden and qq9 mostly lately
And ul but not for camping

[rich arch]

2 taps upper chest at least until 40m, thats just going by the dummy, idk how much more
At -30-40m you just have to hit one upper chest shot
3 shots if you miss upper chest after that range

[austere igloo]

But it shoots slow & moves slow

[austere igloo]

You’re doing it wrong

It’s supposed to be the opposite

I use ul to camp & qq9 to rush

[rich arch]

Yeah ik I use it for more midrange

[austere igloo]

We have better guns for that

[rich arch]

I use qq9 to rush but ul is underrated for rushing

[austere igloo]

Just use holger

UL is not great for rushing

[rich arch]

Holger is way too slow

[austere igloo]

No it isn’t

[rich arch]

Skull

[austere igloo]

It isn’t as slow as the rpd or pkm

[rich arch]

Look at what I put in #codm-gunsmith-builds as compared to the drh

[rich arch]

Yeah and those are both super slow

Holger is like 350 ms or something with the 100 rd mag 💀

[austere igloo]

But it’s still faster than the other lmgs with 100rnds

[rich arch]

That makes zero difference whatsoeveer

[austere igloo]

& btw, I’m using M249 to rush

[rich arch]

Its still slow

[austere igloo]

Zero difference?

[rich arch]

Its good to rush with the 60 rd mag

[austere igloo]

@strong monolith check for me if holger is faster/same speed as rpd/pkm with 100rnd mag

I’m not at home

[strong monolith]

Holger is faster than both of them

[austere igloo]

@rich arch

This guy didn’t believe me when I said holger is faster than those 2

& I told him ul isn’t ideal for rushing

[rich arch]

Use attachments

[rich arch]

Ik its faster

Faster than two slow weapons isn’t fast still

It just means not as slow as others

[austere igloo]

This guy

[rich arch]

I literally just did this on my first match on

Ive tried to rush with the holger, it makes me die a ton

[austere igloo]

Don’t u understand “not as slow” = faster?

[rich arch]

Bc its way too slow for short range

[austere igloo]

I cannot even with this guy

[rich arch]

Faster, not fast

Its faster than others but not good for rushing

[austere igloo]

So wait, you’re telling me “faster” is not a measure of something being fast?

Even though faster literally has the word “fast” in it?

I thought I was here to discuss gunsmithing builds, not English

[austere igloo]

I know holger isn’t fast per se, but rpd & pkm makes that lmg look fast by comparison

[rich arch]

Im well aware

Im not trying to run it for massive ammo

Its for range… and ul has insane range

[austere igloo]

But bsa is less than desirable at range

Good luck tryna 3-tap anything beyond 50m with that

Not even bsa-buffing attachments will save it

[rich arch]

It stops three tapping at 30m

Without range boosting

But its far better than most any ar for range

Go scroll up a little in #codm-gunsmith-builds to see what I showed

[unreal gale]

I think UL is too slow too

it's great otherwise, just way too slow

[rich arch]

Use attachments

Light barrel and combat stock fixed any issues
Since I also use tac laser

[unreal gale]

you nuke the gun if you don't use some variation of standard build

and standard build is super slow

holger is little worse but a lot faster

so I think holger feels much better overall

[rich arch]

Not every build works the same for everyone

The standard build is for camping

Meanwhile ul has been my favorite weapon this season and I rush… its rarely too slow and when it is I have the qq9

[austere igloo]

& hence, introducing other guns that suits their playstyle better

If ul doesn’t work for your rushing/camping playstyle, then switch it up to holger or pkm/rpd

[rich arch]

You think I havent tried?

For the pkm to work for me I have to murder the bsa. Same with the rpd. And holger is always too slow unless I switch to a carbine mag in which case I’ll like the lk24 or something better

The ul, however, has easy recoil, outstanding sights (for me), decent bsa, amazing range, and decent ads speed

Downside is to keep a decent bsa and stay silenced since its loud asf, I have to keep to a 30 rd mag

when was the last time mythic dl came back

[eternal idol]

@austere igloo

[austere igloo]

I don’t see this crate in my store

[unreal gale]

ul has a hidden problem

the aim assist cuts off shorter than other guns

so 40m+ gunfights are basically impossible

[eternal idol]

Lemme get a pic.

[rich arch]

Ive heard that

Ive noticed it too

I have to be more precise with my thumbs, it jerks a lot harder

[austere igloo]

Dammit

[rich arch]

However im still good with that and I love the sight

Like its such aimbot 😭 (with a button over the crosshair)

[eternal idol]

Thoughts?

@austere igloo ice fennec lol

And here you go.

[unreal gale]

uhh I'd just avoid challenging those

basically impossible to win

[rich arch]

I have sync ads…

I usually play within 30m but I’ll take up to 50m gunfights before realizing I should probably duck for cover

[unreal gale]

well yeah, basically everyone has sync at this point

they might nerf sync in the future though

but back to the main point

if you're challenging a gun like LK at 50m, you're basically losing for sure

unless you also beam them and they miss shots for some reason

[rich arch]

They already have

[unreal gale]

oh really?

[rich arch]

Yeah the month or two after its release

[unreal gale]

what was the nerf

[rich arch]

Before it was flatline recoil on most guns

[unreal gale]

oh

[rich arch]

Just didnt make it so absurd

[unreal gale]

I mean it still is more or less

[rich arch]

Well yeah, but its also more specific to the gun

[unreal gale]

oh maybe they forgot to port the recoil over lol

[rich arch]

Like the fennec doesnt benefit too much

[rich arch]

fr

[unreal gale]

I think it benefits quite a bit for fennec

[rich arch]

Well like, it still blows sky high lol

[unreal gale]

but that's mainly because fennec is the only gun with notable recoil I use

[rich arch]

Fair

[unreal gale]

I mean just stack recoil

and it becomes like a gunsmither favourite build kilo kinda recoil

which is pretty manageable

[rich arch]

Speaking of the kilo

Everyone slaps a ranger foregrip on. Its so pointless, its an easy gun

[unreal gale]

I do too

kilo has quite a bit of vertical recoil

[rich arch]

But like, especially with the mythic, its easy

[unreal gale]

so I don't actually like it very much

[rich arch]

Just pull down

[unreal gale]

it really depends on your margin of error

most people consider being able to hit bots at medium distance in training range as their margin of error

and well, if that's your margin of error, any gun works

but you should be able to beam head at medium range

that's my standard for recoil

[rich arch]

I only use training range to test bsa and range and recoil, then try things out in match

Fair enough

I should note that my skill level is bizarre, so a lot of what I say may sound stupid

Theres a lot of guns I can’t do good with for no reason (cough cbr and grau)

And a lot I do well with that a lot cant, like the hbra3

[lean burrow]

Is hvk bad

[rich arch]

No its the best gun if you can control it

[unreal gale]

it's literally easily the best gun in the game rn

[unreal gale]

idk why people think hvk is hard to use. Other than the small mag size, the gun is literally as easy as LK to use

no aim shake no recoil

very good firerate

[rich arch]

The recoil is bad for me

[unreal gale]

very good hitboxes

[rich arch]

Also I hate the sights

[unreal gale]

show me your build

[unreal gale]

that's why you run red dot hvk

red dot hvk feels better than the leggy

[rich arch]

Something like
Mono
Short barrel
Tac laser
Large cal mag
Gran tape or rds

[unreal gale]

but ig it reloads slower lol

[rich arch]

Youre high

Like genuinely 😭

[unreal gale]

drop the short barrel for gran/laser/rds

[unreal gale]

red dot is literally best sight in the game

[rich arch]

Id still have another slot

[unreal gale]

it's also because sync + red dot gives you more aim assist or something

[rich arch]

Too much aim shake on the hvk for me

[unreal gale]

wait what even with sync?

[rich arch]

Yeah…

[unreal gale]

it literally has none

you're using a button too right?

[rich arch]

I just use the fire button

Thumbs player

[unreal gale]

I mean for crosshair

[rich arch]

Oh yeah

[unreal gale]

oh then maybe it's different

[rich arch]

Probably is the cause

I could never use more fingers on phone though 😭

[unreal gale]

you should give me build a shot

I personally think my red dot hvk is by far the best feeling gun in the game rn

probably better than grau ngl

[west marten]

Asia

[rich arch]

I’ll have to swap strike for laser lol but alright

But otherwise I’ll try it

[rich arch]

red dot for laser

since iron sight is decent

I hate the iron sights sometimes

[rich arch]

Hes telling me to try the red dot though

[rich arch]

sure, prob also works, i persoanlly hate lasers anyways

[rich arch]

Fair lol I just main tdm and rush a lot so I dont have a problem

And heartbeat sensor for snd

[unreal gale]

the strike is also for flinch reduction

[rich arch]

For gran then

[unreal gale]

you should probably swap gran instead

[rich arch]

yeah, and im a snd player, you can see where im going with that with lasers

[rich arch]

Fair

[rich arch]

gas nade

[unreal gale]

I think lasers are a huge L generally, but since Mellow is a thumbs players, laser basically has no downsides

[rich arch]

jews favorite

I still do fine in snd with a laser I just have to use somewhat dirtier tactics

💀

[unreal gale]

for thumbs players, pre aiming and hardscoping feels super awkward

[rich arch]

Very true

[rich arch]

yeah, bot movement

[unreal gale]

and that's kinda the biggest downside of laser

[rich arch]

Yeah I dont have too many issues lol

[rich arch]

Haha nope i still smash in ranked somehow

[unreal gale]

my roommate started playing like a month ago, and he's now beaming

his also a thumbs player, and he likes grau the most

[rich arch]

The aim button and moving the screen while firing is a no with thumbs tho

[rich arch]

hit leg today, finally have time to study for finals

[unreal gale]

so I recommend use this build but swap gran for laser @rich arch

[rich arch]

Yup thumbs are underrated im ngl

[rich arch]

tact suppressor 🤮

[minor flare]

The cx9 burst still banned competitive

[rich arch]

I hit it in the day or two before finals

Then finished and am top 5k now

[rich arch]

Interesting, I’ll try it

[unreal gale]

it's literally standard build. please check your facts before throwing toxic emotes lol

[rich arch]

No no stock will hurt but I am willing to try anything

[rich arch]

im prob not even gonna bother studying lmao, for 4 classes im just chilling and grades for the other 2 are impossible to raise xd

[rich arch]

monolithic.

[rich arch]

6 classes???

[minor flare]

Dont worry about tac suppressor

[rich arch]

Welcome back to - "Cursed ranked builds I saw my enemies use, part wtf"

[minor flare]

Monolithic suppressor will ruined the bsa

[rich arch]

Nah wthhh

[rich arch]

?

Its a mythic and oden has too harsh recoil for a scope 😭

[minor flare]

It's very low but increasing the shots

[rich arch]

Im saying you have 6 classes for school?

[rich arch]

Archangel already increases range by 45%, plus mono affects bsa

[rich arch]

yeah

[rich arch]

Yeah it has about 3 low recoil shots then shoots up

[rich arch]

Dang I thought 5 was the max

[minor flare]

This is why oden is unusable in mp

[rich arch]

I did 4 but uh could only really do two lol online courses are so glitchy

[rich arch]

I just mastered it in mp

[rich arch]

@unreal gale thoughts?

[rich arch]

my school offers 7 max

I love it

[rich arch]

ouch

[minor flare]

What no way

Oden is good for BR mode

[rich arch]

Yeah, with sync ads at least its easy to control

[rich arch]

bsa still good enough, plus grau is mostly used for mid-long range

[rich arch]

Its even better in br ofc

[minor flare]

Without good skin Ironsight yeah that default skin is a bit twitchy

High alert is a best perk for sync ads fov

[rich arch]

Im using the default
I switch to the megalodon skin sometimes but default is good too

[rich arch]

Dead silence though

[rich arch]

But why bother with mono when archangel is already doing the job

[rich arch]

more range doesnt hurt

[minor flare]

It's not helpful for smg and ar passive I've recommend shotgun only

[rich arch]

Yeah but the lower bsa does

[minor flare]

And cqc smg

[rich arch]

you literally cant tell the difference..

[rich arch]

As a rusher is it worth keeping… I have auto sprint on lmao

[unreal gale]

I mean they're memeing

but oden's sight is definitely good enough to not use a sight

[rich arch]

Especially at mythic like 😭

[rich arch]

It makes all the difference in those long ranges

[minor flare]

This is why cqc smg is a best bet for dead silence also cx9 burst is treated like a carbine combine with high alert perk

[rich arch]

You should see the entire loadout tbh

[rich arch]

i tried in training, barely any difference

I’ll have to try other perks
Otherwise im sticking to pinpoint and vulture

[minor flare]

Why martyrdom

[unreal gale]

[rich arch]

What does cqc mean?

[unreal gale]

close quarter combat

[minor flare]

Pinpoint is good for lmg

[unreal gale]

basically close range fights

[unreal gale]

pinpoint is broken for everything lol

[rich arch]

vulture? y not quick fix

[rich arch]

Maybe thats part of why I love the ul

[unreal gale]

even snipers. The hardscope aim assist is stupid

[rich arch]

Is it good for low fire rate guns?

[rich arch]

Bc I run out of ammo sometimes lol

[rich arch]

bro how ass are your opponents 😂

[rich arch]

How good am i*

[rich arch]

Yeah well Sunny's build is better tbh, tac suppressor is a better alternative to mono for grau

[rich arch]

[minor flare]

Holger 26 pinpoint toughness and unit support fill up a munitions box

[rich arch]

Tdm main so in some maps I eliminate my ammo 😭 nuketown for one

Also I aim to nuke one day here though I should probably do obj for that

[minor flare]

I think pinpoint is a good sync ads pov for lmg

If you don't use high alert perk

[rich arch]

I have sync ads and pinpoint

Might adjust my perks soon I havent swapped em in a while

High alert is god tier without audio though

[unreal gale]

at some point the game is literally unplayable

pretty sure it's past that point now.

[unreal gale]

do you still play much? I feel like I haven't seen you around for a while

[rich arch]

I play right around the daily reset lol, just tryna hit legendary in both and then I'll be casually grinding diamond till next reset

Plus I have exams coming up so I was trying to hurry up with the mp grind

[rich arch]

Try playing in top 5k…

[rich arch]

SBMM had it out for me yesterday, putting me against a 3 stack

[unreal gale]

I mean I'm a top 1k regular lol

I'm just pushing all my accounts to leggy rn

[rich arch]

My arms would be too sore for that

I sprained my arm from sitting too long already 💀

[unreal gale]

but I've found that sbmm is getting more and more harsh every season

[rich arch]

Very true

[unreal gale]

literally impossible to smurf these days

[rich arch]

After being mvp 3 times in a row I couldnt find matches 💀

[rich arch]

Ouch… and yall still won lol

[unreal gale]

yeah same for me

when I tried pushing one account to legendary near eos, I literally set aside a whole day

found like 3 matches in 4 hours

absolutely miserable

[rich arch]

Sheesh 💀💀💀

[unreal gale]

idk if I should even buy the grau lol

I'm lowkey liking the HVK a lot better rn

wait this free camo looks so nice

[rich arch]

Looks mid

[tawny walrus]

Hm hm.

[oak gulch]

Is locus underrated?

[tawny walrus]

I’d say overrated.

[midnight snow]

Na it’s perfect

[rich arch]

Agreed

[unreal gale]

new build for a more main ar like playstyle

[oak gulch]

Is that hawk 30?

[unreal gale]

it's hvk30. literally says there

[agile rivet]

Hvk is alright too much recoil

[tawny walrus]

No.

[ruby iris]

No

[rich arch]

Hvk? High recoil? Huh

I usually go for marksman too on the hvk

But the recoil isn't that high

[rich arch]

It's manageable

[regal hound]

anyone got an grau gunsmith for unranked mp?

[rich arch]

This is the best I can offer

You can put stippled grip or laser for a little faster ads instead of tactical scope of you want

10 round light reload gives you -10% ads time
You should keep that in mind too

[unreal gale]

uhh you shouldn't be quickscoping with a sks

[tawny walrus]

Yep.

[ruby iris]

[tawny walrus]

This.

@slim sable

[ruby iris]

Blud just picked up a quickscope sks

[tawny walrus]

You’ll have too much hit flinch.

[ruby iris]

Yk what?

Let him cook

[rich arch]

Hit flinch really is a problem with sks

[tawny walrus]

Alright, whatever.

[tawny walrus]

Yeah.

[rich arch]

Won't using toughness help too?

Then you don't need to sacrifice attachment slot

[tawny walrus]

Yeah, but I’d like to put something else instead.

[rich arch]

For example?

[ruby iris]

Toughness aint gon do jackshit tbh

[tawny walrus]

Quick fix, ghost, cold blooded.

[ruby iris]

Just use fmj val if you want aggro sks

[minor flare]

You put too much on

Use mip extended barrel and mip steady stock

[rich arch]

What did cold blooded do again?

[minor flare]

Immune ai scorestreak

[tawny walrus]

AI controlled scorestreaks.

[rich arch]

I use a completely different build, I made this one for him

[minor flare]

1 SK upper torso is useless

Is only 2 SK

[unreal gale]

@ruby iris you're right, building HVK like a main ar does actually feel better

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

I don't use ak117 unfortunately

Does the same count for switchblade?

Better use tac instead of mono?

[strong monolith]

Yep

[rich arch]

Okie

[young shale]

shoot

cx38, tac laser, 50 round, cx-fr, ace grip

i got that fromr ricey

but i think i had a different stock

nah

[tawny walrus]

• CX-38S
• CX-FR
• Sleight of hand
• Tactical laser
• 50 mag

On CX-9? Seriously?

[wary tulip]

Need an xpr build for long range kills only

[tawny walrus]

Stack recoil control and hit flinch resistance.

[rich arch]

M13 gunsmith plssss

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 11 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Any ways to make Rytec faster ?

Feels so heavy

Maybe the agile perk ?

And ambed

[copper jacinth]

Best red dot gunsmith for ak117? Got the mythic but I wanna try rd out

[strong monolith]

@agile rivet

This chart shows how Kilo fares against the top ARs currently

[young shale]

rip kilo

[strong monolith]

When I made this chart for the first time, I had to extend the size of the chart just to accomodate for Kilo

[ruby iris]

1400+

Meta

[strong monolith]

The base TTK with no BV is 1320ms
hMmM yEs MuCh TtK mUcH mEtA

[austere igloo]

Remind me to never use kilo in br again

[young shale]

😭

[austere igloo]

[ruby iris]

I assume range stacking the shit out of it would help

[strong monolith]

This is it with range stack btw

[ruby iris]

Just ignore the final range drop

[ruby iris]

[young shale]

yea just ignore

[strong monolith]

Just use it in alcatraz exclusively

[ruby iris]

Ye, it's kilover

[young shale]

😭

[strong monolith]

If you really want to use it for some reason

[young shale]

eh i still see kilo in rank

its not completely useless

[strong monolith]

Yeah its still a top tier AR in MP

But BR is nah

[young shale]

oden on top in br

but yeah there's different aspects on what you have to build in br

[strong monolith]

M13 better ngl
I take better consistency over better potential

[young shale]

i've never seen m13 in br

im training aim with oden

cos its kinda high rish high reward

[strong monolith]

That's because most ppl don't actually know what guns are good/bad in BR

I have seen ppl claiming that MAC-10 is good in BR when it is one of the worst SMGs

[young shale]

bro that era is over fam

the prime is gone now

[strong monolith]

They really killed it
And made sure it can never come back as a lich

[ruby iris]

Xpr lk

Being good in both modes

[young shale]

which era was more painful mac-10 or mx9 era

back when they were both primes

[strong monolith]

I say MAC-10
If not for how short lived it was, it could have been much much worse

[young shale]

im still kinda hardstuck with the mx9 era nightmares

[minor flare]

M13 is the second fast killing assault rifle

[rich arch]

I liked it when it was good in BR for a while and now it's just lower tier

[rich arch]

Rytec vs HDR vs DLQ.
I still can't decide which one is the best to use in BR...
Rytec faster fire rate and lower ttk because of that , it's slow and heavy though, but DLQ offers the one tap headshot potential even if you use a quick scope build without losing advantages. But on the other side, whenever I use HDR I feel safer as it seems a more consistent sniper to use on any range. I don't know which of the 3 I should main in BR.

[strong monolith]

HDR
Because +2000m/s BV

[rich arch]

With the barrel I guess?

[strong monolith]

Yes

[rich arch]

Perfect 👍

Now makes sense

Why it feels better

[rich arch]

What about, Koshka vs Locus (maybe vs DLQ) in MP?

354ms vs 358 but Locus has better flinch and wallbang hits?

But Koshka feels a bit faster

And better hitboxes

[strong monolith]

DLQ for conventional sniping
Koshka for aggressive sniping
Locus for in between

[rich arch]

[vale lichen]

Koshka ads is like lightning💀

Without resource packs its like dlq but buffed af

[gleaming heron]

Hey can someone suggest an ar high damage fast ads/high fire rate build? I can’t really handle guns like Kilo/Grau No stock builds.

[vale lichen]

[gleaming heron]

Also I struggle with long range kills so it should be steady and maybe low vertical/horizontal recoil

[dusty heart]

Buffed so hard locus is ass

It’s faster than locus without sp

[vale lichen]

I picked it up once and regreted it 😂

[rich arch]

Slightly, 354 ms vs 358 ms

[tawny walrus]

Try LK or KN.

[dusty heart]

The thing is locus hitbox is worse

[viscid belfry]

dlq always better

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

[gleaming heron]

Hmm ok ty

[tired grove]

Why not

[austere igloo]

dlq not always best lol u trippin

just cuz it's the most used one doesn't mean its the best one

yes, looking at u, grau users in br

[rich arch]

Reject DLQ

Embrace XPR 50

[viscid belfry]

reject xpr
embrance m21 ebr

[viscid belfry]

i dont even play br lmfao

[austere igloo]

Embrance

[digital needle]

Menace

[rich arch]

[digital needle]

Oops

[austere igloo]

I’m enjoying this leggy even though its 3-day trial

[austere igloo]

Finally a trial leggy that’s not garbage

[viscid belfry]

how?

[austere igloo]

I’m guessing you ain’t garena

They gave us 3-day qq9 albatross for playing 1 hr of codm

[rich arch]

Fennec gunsmith pls?

[austere igloo]

Light stock
5mw laser
Ext mag
Mono supp
Rubberized

[rich arch]

Thanks!

[austere igloo]

[viscid belfry]

im global

gaerena deserve worse

[eternal idol]

@tawny walrus ur kilo gunsmith ?

And umm ur hud ?

Wb now ?

[rich arch]

Can somone send a low recoil mid ads m4

[tawny walrus]

Which Kilo?

[tawny walrus]

You should set it by yourself, because mine won’t suit you.

[rich arch]

How is this grau build?

@tawny walrus

[eternal idol]

Ar

[tawny walrus]

Fine.

[eternal idol]

I'm 2 fingers and struggling. Idk how tomo and bottom are so good 2 finger players. I'm really, really bad.

[tawny walrus]

• Tactical suppressor
• Extended barrel
• Ranger foregrip
• 50 mag
• Long shot perk

[eternal idol]

Thx 🫂

[tawny walrus]

I’m using 4 fingers setup.

[rich arch]

Im using 3 finger qr and 4 finger sniper

I use 1 tap ads for AR i find it so much better

[eternal idol]

Exactly why I wanna switch. Or rather, get better.

Maybe I naturally suck and hud will not change anything smh.

Also, what is 50 mag ? It's a, b and a 3rd one.

[copper jacinth]

Can anyone help me with #codm-gallery pls

[rich arch]

Because the black skin looks the same on the gun

Try the ice skin

[copper jacinth]

No it does not I had it equipped earlier and it looks sick

[rich arch]

Oh

Then idk

But u know what looks sick, the ice camo on DLQ space captain

[rich arch]

Really sick

[maiden ocean]

Probably oden or s36 if I were to guess

[tawny walrus]

5 months ago?!

Wait wait wait…

0_0

[maiden ocean]

2 years, yeah it was a little bit late reply

[tawny walrus]

How you…

[maiden ocean]

Magik

[peak brook]

I wish people replied to me regardless of time

I killed chat. I leave

[night torrent]

M4LMG build for MP and BR?

[tawny walrus]

No lol.

[rich arch]

M4lmg sucks bro

Use hloger instead

[rich arch]

Nah bro, chat committed suicide

[night torrent]

M4LMG is my most used weapon in BR

[tawny walrus]

• Monolithic suppressor
• No stock
• Tactical laser
• Granulated grip
• Red dot or perk
  (Use Toughness perk with this build)

[night torrent]

I wonder is it better to use as a LMG than as a AR in MP?

I know that in BR is better to use more ammo and better stability at the cost of mobility

[tawny walrus]

Depends on your play style.

[night torrent]

Average

[tawny walrus]

If passive - LMG, aggressive - ARs.

[night torrent]

Will try both. Thanks

[narrow glen]

@night torrent, 5 Server Rank

[night torrent]

And how about NA-45, can someone recommend a perfect build for NA-45 that work for both closer and further combat?

[tawny walrus]

Don’t use it.

[shadow briar]

use it to get sniper plat by burning your first shot of your mag, then never touch it again

[night torrent]

I already have it platinum, at least a year. Then I never touched it again. But I want to try to use it. Seems like a fun weapon

[shadow briar]

if you want a 2 shot kill run sks

[willow oxide]

same lol i have the na-45 platinum but didnt use it after that

[narrow glen]

@willow oxide, 10 Server Rank

[willow oxide]

can anyone help with an svd build?

and also an spr build

[night torrent]

Nah, I just want to annoy people

[willow oxide]

lol

[shadow briar]

spr really anything works as long as you run .300 mag. my preferred spr is integ supp barrel, RDS 2, combat stock (could be skeleton), light bolt and .300 mag

[willow oxide]

oh ok ok

[night torrent]

I want to have it diamond I have 31/120, one quarter completed

But I'm curious if there is a better build than the one I'm using

[shadow briar]

SVD run Skeleton stock, 510mm Light barrel, OWC Light supp, then 2 out of laser, mag, disable and low zoom scope

or SoH

[night torrent]

What do you mean "disable and low zoom scope"?

Is this a new feature?

[shadow briar]

i gave a list of 4 options

do you want me to use the Oxford Comma?

laser, mag, disable, low zoom scope

[shadow briar]

i dont know what the mags do, but i would say probably MIP light barrel, light supp, SoH, light trigger and either skeleton stock or mag

[night torrent]

Mags either increase DMG, increase area, or increase distance from where the second shot can activate the mine

[night torrent]

Yeah, sorry I wasn't playing for like 4 months, and when I came back there was a button near scope that said "sight distance", I have no idea what it does

[willow oxide]

ok thnks

[shadow briar]

i dont have that but ok

[rich arch]

Can someone plz explain how Arctic 50 with FMJ cannot wallbang?

[cunning oasis]

yo who here has enough cp to gift a bp? Im in dire need of one😭

[rich arch]

I couldn't kill enemies behind a wall on Nuketown

The bullet couldn't penetrate the wall

[fickle solstice]

Can someone give me a build for x9?

MP and BR

[tawny walrus]

Which X9?

[fickle solstice]

Switchblade

[tawny walrus]

MP:

• Tactical suppressor
• Extended barrel
• Light stock
• Extended magazine
• Tactical laser/granulated grip

BR:

• Monolithic suppressor
• Extended barrel
• 1mw laser
• Hip fire foregrip (forgot its name)
• Extended magazine

[fickle solstice]

Thank you brother

[tawny walrus]

You’re welcome.

[rich arch]

You cannot penetrate that?

I'm pretty sure it works with an lmg

[tawny walrus]

I think you should.

[cunning oasis]

you can

[rich arch]

There was a guy during the whole game there and I couldn't penetrate the wall

I was using arctic 50 with FMJ

I tried now on a practice match with a tripmine and I couldn't penetrate it

[ornate jackal]

Ye

Wallbanging with snipers is a little different

[flint helm]

Can I get boxing gloves in season 11?

[tawny isle]

yes

[tawny isle]

you have to get like 50 melee kills i think

[flint helm]

Isnt it removed?

If melee kills then it will be ez fkr me

[tawny isle]

no?

[willow oxide]

just check it in the codm melee section y question here

[shadow briar]

god i wish

[rich arch]

Hi

Can someone come here to pickup my dogtags?

Only 1 minute left before the final revival flight

[visual bloom]

what kind of build is that

[muted kindle]

Go play clash of clans💀💀💀

[visual bloom]

ok

[tawny isle]

i would replace fg with 45 rnd mag

[thick anchor]

Groza or val better?

[rich arch]

i feel like val i am good at it personally

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 10 Server Rank

[tawny isle]

they are hard to compare

[unreal gale]

Groza is probably better

Unless you're playing sks asval, asval kinda sucks

[willow merlin]

SKS is pretty OP.

[tawny isle]

if you use as val as an mr just use sks

[willow merlin]

even when you've removed the stock, minimized the barrel, short mag, fast ADS

it doesn't nerf the damage for some reason :/

[unreal gale]

Asval is very different

It has way better mobility

Literally a sks with smg mobility

[rich arch]

asval better close range mobility, sks better for long range

and I like how yall forgot that amax existed

[tawny isle]

amax fmj is mid asf

[flint helm]

#1146179128161226792

[formal river]

God damn

Guess who’s gonna gonna start using the M13 again

[plain mauve]

I need a Switchblade X9 Build with perks

[plain mauve]

I need DLQ-33 Build as well

[rich arch]

Someone gimme a good oden duplex build

Thoughts on legendary Koshka skin?

Anyone

Noone...

[rich arch]

I need a few builds Ak117, Fennec, and Outlaw. Anyone got one

[viscid belfry]

groza build?

[viscid belfry]

its a bs

[severe forge]

Newbie gun for those who are just starting.

[ruby iris]

[iron nest]

Which is Best gun for ranked match?

[narrow glen]

@iron nest, 5 Server Rank

[shadow briar]

interesting build

shame it’s mid as fuck though

[severe forge]

Post says "For Newbies".

Shame you can't read though

[shadow briar]

doesnt make a shit build better

2 wasted slots

[severe forge]

It's a crap build TO YOU because new players don't have that extra stuff unlocked.

Know what, I'm not gonna go back and forth with you. You obviously don't have enough brain cells to understand basic stuff.

[visual bloom]

remove everything except optic and mag

then it good imo

[midnight snow]

Oops wrong chat 💀

[shadow briar]

talking about lack of brain cells after suggesting TOUGH PERK

actually shut the hell up

[severe forge]

I'm just gonna let the mods take care of you. @hybrid arrow

So far you've broken several rules, including not cursing and the drama.

[shadow briar]

since when is not cursing a rule

ban half the server then

and I'm not causing drama, just saying your build is shit

[last bolt]

can anyone give me a striker 45 build???

[ruby iris]

Good if remove foregrip and reargrip

[formal river]

I’m in pain now

[ruby iris]

Tac supp
300mm
Ext mag
Tac laser
Gran tape

[shadow briar]

noob ASM10 runs FMJ, YKM Light stock, 33 mag, strike FG and rds (all under level 10 weapon attach), swap fg for supp for SnD

[ruby iris]

[last bolt]

thanks 🥚

[ruby iris]

Strike fg

[severe forge]

I prefer the grips for better control. On Android, so I need better control / less mobility.

[shadow briar]

all weapon attachments under level 10 for noobs

[severe forge]

Thank you for actually contributing to the conversation though instead of just starting drama @ruby iris

[ruby iris]

Grip gives you like
2 bullets worth of recoil control

And nukes your mobility

[severe forge]

Yeah, mobility is too high without the grips though.

[shadow briar]

-15% strafe is kinda pain yeah

[ruby iris]

No attachment is better than strike foregrip only

[severe forge]

I'll have my gun aimed one place and it changed to a complete different area

[shadow briar]

but YKM light cancels Striker FG strafe debuff

so not a huge loss

[shadow briar]

thats a sensitivity issue

[visual bloom]

wdym by that

[severe forge]

Your good. Was tagging you because someone was popping off with the trolling: cursing and down talking without adding anything useful to convo. Seems he's chilled out though.

[austere bloom]

i’m not going to join convo because i know my gun setup is trash

[shadow briar]

i literally posted a better build than yours bro

get me your dealers number

[severe forge]

You're also a higher level than mine. Something you obviously don't understand is as a gun levels up, it gets better attachments to unlock.

[shadow briar]

the one i posted is level 9 attachments

[severe forge]

And where may I see this?

[shadow briar]

right here

need a pic?

[ruby iris]

Lv10 build

Do not the strike fg

Or the stipple

[severe forge]

Bullet penetration? For what bro?
Looking at the first thing you said to add tells me the rest ain't even worth reading.

[shadow briar]

wallbangs/light cover

[severe forge]

If your playing on mobile, you really don't need bullet penetration

[shadow briar]

its OK for noobs learning recoil

[severe forge]

It's a waste of a slot.

[shadow briar]

?????? explain sorry

[ruby iris]

Do NOT the strike fg

[shadow briar]

in what UNIVERSE do mobile players NOT wallbang?

[severe forge]

You run around and kill people. Your not gonna be ducking around, sliding, etc on mobile.

[ruby iris]

Ever

[severe forge]

That's controller stuff

[ruby iris]

Unless troll build

[shadow briar]

bro thinks all mobile players are thumbs only

my movement is shit by mobile standards and still miles better than i could do on a controller

[severe forge]

If your using a controller to play on a mobile, it's not mobile gaming. It's controller gaming.

Bruh, at this point I'ma just block you because now that I'm actually engaging with you, I'm losing brain cells.

[ruby iris]

[shadow briar]

the feeling is mutual

[visual bloom]

isn’t there a loadout slot that allows you to unlock every attachment even if you don’t have the weapon leveled up

[shadow briar]

yes

[ruby iris]

Yes

[shadow briar]

only 1 at a time, but yes

[ruby iris]

So this whole thing is redundant

[severe forge]

Why laser and scope? Idk about you, but I can't do that 😂 messes my aim up.

[narrow glen]

@severe forge, 16 Server Rank

[ruby iris]

[shadow briar]

i ran it for my HVK until i got LC Mag

[formal river]

Because it is

[shadow briar]

100% recommend if you dont have it unlocked yet

[shadow briar]

do i need to block you too

[formal river]

I lost brain cells looking at this

[ruby iris]

Better than nuking your gun's mobility and accuracy by using strike foregrip and stipple tape

[formal river]

And i don’t even use it

[ruby iris]

[formal river]

[formal river]

It’s the laser

[shadow briar]

you dont get it, stipple cancels the mobility nerf from fg and fg cancels aim cone from stipple

[ruby iris]

Bro missed the whole context

[severe forge]

If you know how to aim, accuracy shouldn't be a problem. Using a scope and red dot just cancels each other out.

[formal river]

I see it

[subtle abyss]

What’s up all. I’m new here

[ruby iris]

The game has random spread

[shadow briar]

I'm sorry for your loss

[shadow briar]

aim cones aint just for sgs

[formal river]

Actually, u got a point there

[subtle abyss]

Someone wanna hop on a battle royale

[ruby iris]

@dusty heart save me

[shadow briar]

but ricey is right, running non-maxed weapons is cringe

[severe forge]

I feel like the most reasonable thing to do here is admit everyone has different play styles so depending on what your play style is, your gun will look different than what someone else may use.

[dusty heart]

Nahhh you got this

[shadow briar]

especially since you can do it from like char level 10

[formal river]

No one can save you

Your stuck here now

[severe forge]

HOWEVER, running maxed guns doesn't help you level up your guns. You need to run them to level them up (unless you buy gun XP cards)

[ruby iris]

Problem with codm is uhh

It's imbalanced as fuck

If you have a different playstyle, you change the gun, not the attachments, cuz some attachments are just straight up better than others

Problem exclusive to codm ngl

[formal river]

For like 10-15 guns until you have a bunch of xp cards

[ruby iris]

What too many guns in 1 single game does to a mf:

[shadow briar]

as an example: m13 will always be better than drh at cqc, no matter what attachs you put on the drh

[severe forge]

Exactly. I posted my gun I'm running having only been playing a week and got people bashing me because it doesn't line up with the way they play 😂

[ruby iris]

Running max leveled gun gives you exp cards

[formal river]

💀

[subtle abyss]

Just play however u want fr

[shadow briar]

converts all your xp into xp cards

[severe forge]

I think some people just take video games too seriously because they got nothing better to do outside the game.

[shadow briar]

is this not common knowledge

[formal river]

For example

It’s not what people use but still is good af

[shadow briar]

running the realism scope

[severe forge]

This is mine. Without attachments, my aim is godly but the gun recoil (?) points the gun in an opposite way. I figured using attachments to lower mobility and increase control would help. It did, so this is the gun I use.

Rank MVP almost every time with 160 - 197 overall impact

[formal river]

However, there are some builds that shouldn’t be made. Like this one

If you see it

[shadow briar]

scope on akimbo

[ruby iris]

Everyone went through this phase, you'll get it after a few months

[formal river]

Use one of the other

[ruby iris]

[subtle abyss]

@severe forge U up for duos on battle royale

[severe forge]

I'm running multiplayer with a friend. You're welcome to join us.

[subtle abyss]

Sure

[severe forge]

Bet

[formal river]

Can I as well?

[severe forge]

Accept friend requests

[subtle abyss]

I’m not the best, but I’d like to check it out

[formal river]

Alr

[severe forge]

Gotta make a new group bc we use discord for voice call

[subtle abyss]

Alr

[formal river]

Ok

[ruby iris]

Anyways, goofy ahh diamond grinding gameplay

(very rusty)

This was like 8 months ago iirc

[shadow briar]

bro i dont think they shot at you a single time

[ruby iris]

Bot lobby

[shadow briar]

nice shots

but no risk of death

[visual bloom]

bots with pistols and shotguns are whacky

[narrow glen]

@visual bloom, 13 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

Whacky? You mean nuisance?

These fuckers ruin yr killstreak like no tmrw

[tawny isle]

exactly

one second they are rushing sniper then the next youre watxhing the killcam of you dying to a pistol

[austere igloo]

FR

[ornate jackal]

Hit leggy

[unreal gale]

Well it's because it sucks

Literally the bad parts of sks and asval combined and worse lol

[viscid belfry]

which

[austere igloo]

I didn’t forget lol

I’ve been using that gun as ground loot in br

& I don’t find much use for the m67 ammo of amax anyway

[austere igloo]

The asval fmj mag is a much, much better choice

[quaint temple]

Anyone knows the best build for fennec pls give

I will appreciate that

[shadow briar]

m67 isnt better than val fmj for cqc OR sks for mid range

[austere igloo]

Exactly, so why bother using it?

[shadow briar]

also val is better BR ground loot than amax so it loses on that too

[austere igloo]

[quaint temple]

Thank you very much

[austere igloo]

I don’t see val being used a lot in br, even as ground loot

[shadow briar]

its the only non-crate suppressed weapon

[austere igloo]

I see more amax’s

[austere igloo]

But it has wonky recoil

[shadow briar]

damage and range aint great, and BV is pain

[austere igloo]

Not suitable for mid-long range

[shadow briar]

but suppress makes it worth for close-mid IMO

[austere igloo]

But you better have ext mag mod ‘cuz val base mag is 25 rnds which is less than optimal

[shadow briar]

true

[austere igloo]

Even in cqc u can’t be sure all of your shots will hit, esp if your enemy is a jumpy/dodgy mf

[shadow briar]

its bsa is fairly consistent i find

[austere igloo]

You play iso or blackout?

Or alca?

[shadow briar]

both

[austere igloo]

[shadow briar]

i play everything but alca

[austere igloo]

I don’t see a lot of val’s in iso/blackout

At most I see bots using it

[shadow briar]

hate alca, even though its better in alca for cqc

i just dont like the map regardless of the weapons

i still think purely for the early suppressor it's one of the most useful weapons in BR

once blue crates start to drop it's less valuable

but also i would prioritize ZRG over my 117 anyways

[austere igloo]

No doubt

But I don’t use suppressed weapons in br anyway so

I don’t have ‘em on my customs either

[shadow briar]

going for kills, not wins?

[austere igloo]

What does it matter

Suppression in br is pointless

People can still tell where you are

It might be of use in mp but in br…why bother?

The suppressed gunfire will still show on your radar

[shadow briar]

does it not lower the range you appear on radar?

[austere igloo]

No it doesn’t?

[shadow briar]

the fuck?

[austere igloo]

It just shows diff

[ruby iris]

Yes, but like

[austere igloo]

Yes

[ruby iris]

It's still 1 second of ttk

[shadow briar]

are you trolling me?

[ruby iris]

Ppl will know regardless

[austere igloo]

I’m being serious

[shadow briar]

wow

need to rebuild all my BR shit then

[austere igloo]

Wait, so you’ve been using suppressing yr guns in br all this while??

[shadow briar]

yeah lmao

[austere igloo]

I used to do the same, but not anymore

[ruby iris]

Suppression is pointless in br

[shadow briar]

i assumed it took you off radar like MP

[austere igloo]

I find it pointless

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

Well, that assumption has been proven wrong

[shadow briar]

damn

in that case VAL is shit then

[austere igloo]

Took ya long enough to realize that

[shadow briar]

oi

[frigid cloud]

Anyone up for a training session

[narrow glen]

@frigid cloud, 1 Server Rank

[shadow briar]

fack off m8

[frigid cloud]

Hnmm

[hollow panther]

yeah but even if it did.

[austere igloo]

My br custom

[hollow panther]

footsteps? is a thing

[shadow briar]

holo 2?

[austere igloo]

Yea, it helps

[shadow briar]

if youre within like 25m sure

[shadow briar]

over rds/irons?

[austere igloo]

LK irons are dogshit anyway

[shadow briar]

unless you have snake skin true

[hollow panther]

its the same as rds. some just prefer holo 2 i think it has less shake or some idk

[austere igloo]

& holo sight has better handling than rds

[austere igloo]

It does have less shake

[shadow briar]

rds more open, better for MP; holo more stable better for BR?

or is it personal pref. ?

[hollow panther]

personal

[shadow briar]

does the stat page show sight stats? or is there another resource for that?

beyond "higher zoom slower ads"

[hollow panther]

no??

never checked

just put on a rds then a holo and see what shakes less

[ornate jackal]

No stats to show. But the shake is noticeably different for diff guns with diff sights so some may be better than others or u may just have a preference

[shadow briar]

I'm not finding a difference between RDS and Holo 2 personally, but that might just be me

I'm actually finding Holo 3 really nice though

its very open

[young shale]

Idk holo is looks good for only in br

Its just like that

[shadow briar]

mmm maybe not, Holo 3 feels like it has more reticle jump than Holo 2

[minor depot]

Which red perk is best for svd? Like i usually play passively running grau/ul type guns with pinpoint so i was thinking of shifting to svd so which red perk should i use with it?

[young shale]

Just put lightweight

[minor depot]

I want something aim related? Like i was thinking pinpoint or lung refresher?

[young shale]

Iron lung if you are hardscope

[minor depot]

I usually use melee to run one point to another then camp playing passively

[young shale]

Yeah then iron lung

[minor depot]

Not pure camp but camp for few secs then shift points

[young shale]

Then iron lung not too useful

Then just use lightweight

Get you from point to point faster

[formal river]

Lung refresher is so useless unless you’re hard-scoping

[minor depot]

How is pinpoint for snipers?

[hollow panther]

doesnt make sense.

[young shale]

I dont see good use on sniper

[formal river]

It’s mainly good for automatic guns

[minor depot]

Like i mainly see pinpoint on lmgs and some long range ars other than that it doesn't have any use right?

[young shale]

Yes

[minor depot]

Does it help smgs?

[young shale]

Yeah cos its automatic

[formal river]

Yea

[midnight snow]

should I get this leggy or just keep my epic