codm-gunsmith-help

[rich arch]

I don't know if it was just fanmade, but I saw somewhere a legendary or mythic character skin of spec ops 1 and it looked so sick

This would sell just for the memes

[tired grove]

Yeah

[trim night]

Can someone give me a good gunsmith for the groza i have no clue what to put on it minus Bo forgrip

[trim night]

Thanks

[rich arch]

Anybody got type 25 build with rds

[strong monolith]

@ruby iris

[drowsy junco]

yep as val is for cqc

[digital needle]

Oden for any range

[strong monolith]

@rich arch M16 is good they said

Straight up went beyond the TTK chart

[rich arch]

Oh hell nah ... Hahahaha wtf ...

Omg gladly I never use that gun..

[strong monolith]

But the Swordfish tho

[rich arch]

!!!!!

[rich arch]

Halberd mag or base

[strong monolith]

Halberd

Oh whoops there was a typo
This is how it should look like

[rich arch]

Wow....

I think we'll need a new BR tier list and build this is so interesting

Even better ttk than amax

This is 🔥🔥🔥

You found a hidden gem

[strong monolith]

Although this is purely theoretical since if you miss, your TTK will skyrocket to be much worse

[rich arch]

Hmmm.. so I guess we could say a high skill high reward, like you have to make sure you don't miss (like Oden for example)

Someone should try making the ugliest class setup

[vale lichen]

M-13??

[strong monolith]

Yeah M13 is the best all-rounder AR in BR

[rich arch]

!!!!!! ⭐

[rich arch]

Check some builds here #codm-gunsmith-builds hahaha

[vale lichen]

I will only play BR after this week

Internal exam Tommorow

[rich arch]

Good luck 👍

[vale lichen]

Probably gonna fail

[strong monolith]

I'm gonna play a few games with it to see how practical it is
If it is as good as my math claims, then I might consider it a top 5 AR

[rich arch]

OMG.....

[vale lichen]

I already passed the other two so it is not required

[vale lichen]

Oden is really great in both BR and MP

[rich arch]

If you've got some time later. Check also comparison between Rytec AMR, HDR, DLQ. Stat writer said that AMR deals 500ttk even though the app shows 1000
And the rest 2 snipers deal like 1200-1400 but maybe this is because of the Rytec's rapid fire rate?

[vale lichen]

U have to play passive with it though in MP

[digital needle]

Not only great. Super Broken, Overpowered

[tawny walrus]

@ruby iris @strong monolith Good?

[rich arch]

That weapon

[unreal gale]

no need. This already wins it. and it's basically a meta build too

[rich arch]

the pkm2 horizontal recoil

i admit its hard to control

[tawny walrus]

Normal foregrip is better and it doesn’t go with penalties.

[unreal gale]

I'm literally matching pro players rn 🗿

matched JesusSaves, some dude from uD

[rich arch]

The M16 build in #codm-gunsmith-builds

1/10💀

[unreal gale]

vertical recoil is worth the ads movement speed to me

especially when the stock offsets all of it

also this was before the agile stock nerf

[tight nest]

Plzz and body give me 3 finger claw for call of duty mobile for Android

[wary tulip]

It depends on personal preference and device

[strange rivet]

it suits his playstyle ‼️ ‼️

[tired grove]

Yeah

[rich arch]

[vale lichen]

I only check stock and barrel for m-16

Downvoted

[rich arch]

[digital needle]

Discovered new Fastest SMG TTK

[narrow glen]

@digital needle, 25 Server Rank

[charred mortar]

How are you able to post pics here?

[ocean narwhal]

#┃server-media-passes

[charred mortar]

Thanks

[amber gale]

Agency suppressor
VOV reinforced barrel
Firm grip tape
Field agent foregrip
50 VOV fast mag
That’s the best build for the groza

[charred mortar]

This setup with the shorter barrel is giving me more stability than the barrels for range and recoil.

[narrow glen]

@amber gale, 9 Server Rank

[charred mortar]

You use this for Hardpoint/Domination?

[digital needle]

Reddot to Aim assist laser

Cuz Groza's base BSA is pretty bad : 17(6)

[amber gale]

I’m using it for everything tbh it’s a great gun for an aggressive play style

And unlike HVK it dosent have only 28 round mag

Although for long ranges u gotta use it like it’s semi auto bc of the recoil

[ocean narwhal]

shit build

[half fulcrum]

Don’t post your trash builds

[ruby iris]

[half fulcrum]

That’s op😏

[rich arch]

[tawny walrus]

Ricey, look at my ping, please.

[ruby iris]

Ionno

I dont even have the groza

Ask sleep

[uneven anchor]

cookies and creamed

[worthy grail]

Your build is HORRIBLE

@charred mortar you do not use a scope on any type of automatic gun

You use either rds or rds 1

No magazine??

Seriously you’re better at pole vaulting than making codm gunsmith builds

[hybrid cedar]

why have the values not even changed…

[charred mortar]

I don't use scopes for Hardpoint and Domination.

[vale lichen]

The build is trash that is true but krig's base is trash

So ppl use rds in exchange of stock

[rich arch]

Ok almost good

Use gran grip tape not rubberized rip your bsa with that 💀

And ig disable is fine though since its an ar not an lmg id use a tac laser or maybe operator foregrip

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 33 Server Rank

[rich arch]

My personal build

Granted no mythic so I have to use a slot on a red dot

[amber gale]

Finally got the gold

[rich arch]

Nice

[austere latch]

This good?

[rich arch]

Use a different barrel

[amber gale]

This one’s better

[rich arch]

Drifter is the worst

[amber gale]

No it’s not

[rich arch]

Rubber grio also bad

[rich arch]

It takes off 25% range and bullet speed

[amber gale]

This loadout has no recoil high mobility and works for all ranges

[midnight snow]

U don’t need red dot on the grau

It’s unnecessary

[rich arch]

Use squall nexus or archancel

[rich arch]

Youre murdering the bsa and range, nope

[midnight snow]

I’ll do that

[rich arch]

Alr

[amber gale]

No it’s not monolithic suppressor helps maintain its range

[rich arch]

Also is your em2 mythic…

[amber gale]

Don’t knock it before u fkin try it

[rich arch]

These are hardly functional

[rich arch]

Ive used every barrel chill man

Use squall barrel if you want speed

[midnight snow]

who’s

[rich arch]

Yours

[austere latch]

What should I use?

[rich arch]

Bc you didnt mention using a scope and that sight is 💀

[amber gale]

That greatly increases recoil

My build has no recoil great range and is also highly mobile

[rich arch]

Squall if you want speed, nexus if you want mid speed/range, archangel to max out range performance

[austere latch]

Okay Thanks

[rich arch]

No it has base range and awful bsa. Grau isn’t hard to control

[rich arch]

Np

[midnight snow]

nope I was broke when it came out n I hated the gun then but I kept dying to it so I tried it now I love it 😂

[narrow glen]

@midnight snow, 20 Server Rank

[amber gale]

For which the grip can be swapped to the sniper elite one for the bullet spread I just prefer recoil reduction

And base range is better then decreased range

[rich arch]

Lmao how do you use the base sights 😭 I might try them in ranked again and try red dot after
I just noticed it 3 taps everywhere on the body

[rich arch]

Use nexus barrel and boom great range and same recoil buff just a little slower

[amber gale]

Which dosent help bc u need the speed when up against sweats and since reset just happened rank is full of em

[rich arch]

The bullet speed minus is bad for range as well

[midnight snow]

Idk I got used to it it’s not bad once u see how powerful it is

[rich arch]

I just reached legendary and im a rusher I can safely say that barrel doesnt help, just use squall if you want speed

[midnight snow]

[rich arch]

Im noticing how insane that damage might be lol I’ll give it a shot tomorrow

[midnight snow]

already leggy smh

[rich arch]

Yeah I want to be top 5k this season since im on break

[midnight snow]

I was top 5k last season

[rich arch]

I already am but gotta maintain it

[midnight snow]

This season I can’t get any matches

[rich arch]

Nice

[midnight snow]

Like I’m not abt to wait 10 mins

Rn I’m hard stuck Gm 3

Anyways do u have a hvk build?

[rich arch]

Try other modes as well mayhaps?

[rich arch]

I see this build a lot:

[midnight snow]

I only play snd or tdm I tried hp n dom n im never touching ts again

[rich arch]

Relatable

Goliaths dont make objectives fun

[nocturne tree]

💀 the score streak spam is insane

[narrow glen]

@nocturne tree, 8 Server Rank

[midnight snow]

no fuck that my teammate r annoying

They dont play obj they wanna slay but get 10 kills

[rich arch]

REAL

[midnight snow]

once the score streaks start I just hide in a building bc ik we sold 💀

[rich arch]

😭

I like tdm best bc of that, its the mode that teammates matter least in

[nocturne tree]

i just made a whole loadout with ghost and shi like that to hide

emp

and shi like that to not die with the spam

[rich arch]

I had to equip an fhj 😭

[nocturne tree]

SAME

[midnight snow]

Yk I used to hate it n still do but god snd takes away half the xp I got like wtf

[rich arch]

Slapped it on my qq9 loadout bc I won’t need a mobility backup

[nocturne tree]

istg if a person knows how to use chopper gunner it's over

[rich arch]

Yup tdm is least punishing too

Albeit it least rewarding

[midnight snow]

I got 21 kills in snd n got 4 xp tf ima do with 4 xp

[rich arch]

I think I have a 1.6 kd from maining tdm this season

[rich arch]

☠️

[nocturne tree]

💀

[rich arch]

Yeah I hate snd lol everyone else hardscopes and its difficult to carry teammates

[nocturne tree]

i got 1.6 kd this year's stats becs i did not touch snd

[rich arch]

Ive played maybe 10-20 snd matches

[midnight snow]

tdm does that too I’ve gotten mvp n get literally 1xp

[rich arch]

Out of 110-120 total

[nocturne tree]

same ppl sweat insane

[rich arch]

Yeah, or second place on a 49-50 loss and lose 20-40 xp 😐

[rich arch]

Its not sweating when they dont rven move 💀

[midnight snow]

man snd makes me acc cry

[austere latch]

Do you have fennec build?

[narrow glen]

@austere latch, 9 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Im dog with it idk 💀🙏

[nocturne tree]

i get fucking billionaire enemies and they spam me with legendary molotovs gas nades mythic characters and guns 💀 so my device just dies

[rich arch]

Fr

[austere latch]

Thanks

[rich arch]

OH GOSH
EVERY SINGLE PLAYER THIS SEASON USES A MYTHIC LOKE WHAT IS UP WITH THAT

[nocturne tree]

omg I've wanted the death engine skin for so long

[midnight snow]

Remove grip tape if u want red dot

[rich arch]

I won’t complain too much but the kilo and m13 mythics are just violating

[nocturne tree]

wait it will get worse after the mythic character

[midnight snow]

Literally got it 2 hrs ago

[nocturne tree]

💀 qq9 mythic

[rich arch]

And its all top 5k players for me

[rich arch]

Mid at least lol switchblade mythic tho

[nocturne tree]

don't tell me you got it for free in the crate thingy

[rich arch]

Hold up I’ll bbs

[nocturne tree]

becs I've been rolling and didn't get shit

[midnight snow]

Bro I used 74 coupons n then bought 10 crates n then got it

[nocturne tree]

i get global lbs players farming guns and using the most annoying loadouts like stop spamming trip mines in the most unnoticable places

[nocturne tree]

😭 wish I had that many coupons

used all mine on the fucking locus crate

[midnight snow]

I been saving for hella long

[nocturne tree]

i did too then wasted on that crate

got everything including the characters except for the gun

[midnight snow]

yea I told myself I wouldn’t use them unless I wanted something badly

[vale lichen]

P2L

[midnight snow]

Crates r a scam fr tho

[nocturne tree]

wish i had that much self control 🙏🏻

[midnight snow]

what the mythic switch?

[nocturne tree]

I've seen my friend get the ak117 medieval for free and ferg drop bands 💀

[midnight snow]

No bc last time I bought 112 crates for a skin n never got it so I was like from now on I’m only gonna spend coupons no cp that’s why I saved

[midnight snow]

Lmaoooo

[vale lichen]

Yes its P2L

[midnight snow]

not really

[vale lichen]

Cool design and inspection, voice line but not worthy

[vale lichen]

Base iron switch better

[nocturne tree]

istg he got the best luck

[midnight snow]

I kinda agree I be wanting to go back to my normal switch but I wouldn’t say it’s p2l

[nocturne tree]

jesus

[midnight snow]

it’s always that one friend with the best luck

I’ve gotten lucky a couple times with characters

[nocturne tree]

😭 bro another one of a guy ik got the leggy maddox and he started codm a week ago

[vale lichen]

M-13,krig, oden mythic makes sense because of their bad iron

But switchblade is easiest smg to use

[nocturne tree]

m13 Morningstar is just glorious

[vale lichen]

No iron problem or anything

[midnight snow]

I feel like cod does that so they’re more likely to spend money again

[vale lichen]

Overhyped

[midnight snow]

I hate the kill affect

[nocturne tree]

idk m13 was the first gun i used to get to legendary so I'm kinda attached to it 🙏🏻

[midnight snow]

It pisses me off it’s fkn toxic

[rich arch]

Thats alll the time for me
I have at least 2-3 lb players per match

[nocturne tree]

💀 jesus what kind of demons do you fight

[rich arch]

There was an ul lb player camping in the firing range tower with a trophy system 💀

[vale lichen]

Good gun but Activision rerun the mythic draw like every month now

[midnight snow]

is cbr ever gonna come back

[rich arch]

Well reaching legendary in 2 days is not without pain

[vale lichen]

Infinite 3tap

[nocturne tree]

true

[rich arch]

About 30m of 3 tap unboosted

I use the ul to rush though

[nocturne tree]

🙏🏻 respect the grind

[midnight snow]

do any of u guys use the Maddox?

[rich arch]

Used to but its not dependable for me

[nocturne tree]

istg the auto caps delete is annoying

[midnight snow]

the leggy has a weird shake idk if it’s jus me or if it’s the gun

[vale lichen]

Its the best lmg but rushing with it is not recommend

[rich arch]

Tryna stay on top 5k so thank you lol

[nocturne tree]

send build 🙏🏻

[rich arch]

No its true

[vale lichen]

Should be treated like oden on MP

[rich arch]

YES IK THIS WILL BE CLOWNED ON BUT HERES MY BUILD

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

Yall gonna call this 0/10 fs

[nocturne tree]

holy ads speed

[narrow glen]

@nocturne tree, 9 Server Rank

[midnight snow]

ew u guys r ul users

[vale lichen]

Bro builded it like passive and rushing

Wtf

[rich arch]

Aggro ul user 😭

[midnight snow]

I hate all lmg users they need hell

[rich arch]

Nah its rushing I just put gran tape so I have some bsa loo

[nocturne tree]

i used to be one too when no one even heard of it

[rich arch]

Its what im maining 💀

[nocturne tree]

mythic holger users 🙏🏻

[rich arch]

Nicee, I hated it until I realized the teal steel sights are trash

[rich arch]

KMS ☠️

I usually run ul, qq9, and m13 this season

[nocturne tree]

i just leave when i see one becs ik damn well im not winning

oo send me your m13 haven't used one in ages

[midnight snow]

the new lmg is kinda good

[rich arch]

Really fun too

[nocturne tree]

bruen?

[rich arch]

My current stats (tdm and frontline mostly)

[vale lichen]

60mag for rushing?

[vale lichen]

💀💀

[rich arch]

Its only 3.5% ads penalty, thats nothing

[midnight snow]

u can acc rush with it

[rich arch]

And it doubles the capacity. 30 rds is not my thing

[rich arch]

AYYYY THATS MY BUILD

Besides me using a laser but W

[midnight snow]

yea u copied me

[rich arch]

:|

[midnight snow]

I hate laser

Maybe bc I play snd

[rich arch]

Yup

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

I dont recommend it for snd, camping, or a lot of peeking/corner checking

[vale lichen]

Our build are kinda same ricey's build

[rich arch]

Ricey is uber slow paced I hate his builds no offense to him

Im very aggro, besides tricking the enemies

[vale lichen]

Stock => steady stock
Gran=>tac
Laser=>perk

[vale lichen]

I just noticed the laser

Makes sense

[rich arch]

All my builds have lasers

[vale lichen]

Yeh ads

[rich arch]

I only see the downsides when I play snd

Otherwise if theres corners I have heartbeat sensors and I slide in

[vale lichen]

Just need to swap laser to perk i don't see any issue with other attch

[midnight snow]

💀ur one of those

[rich arch]

Or gran tap

[nocturne tree]

gonna test out your ul build 🙏🏻

[rich arch]

I hate corner campers and heartbeat stops it 💀👍

[nocturne tree]

hope i drop a nuke

[vale lichen]

Haram don't be like that

[rich arch]

Good luck lol feel free to change it if you like

[dire olive]

Guys can I ask

[rich arch]

In snd most people hardscope I can’t spare any mercy

[dire olive]

Where is the customer service channel here pls

[vale lichen]

When you swap gran your build be passive

I don't like agrro players on snd anyway

[midnight snow]

Ion even think that’s a thing

[rich arch]

Fair, I use gran to balance bsa if I have a free slot. Im aggressive but mid-long range fights do happen

[vale lichen]

I take my contact nade before any corner turn

[rich arch]

Im good at it, though I am forced to go slow at times

I mainly try to win based off of map knowledge and tricking enemies

[rich arch]

And youre one of those 😭

Frick contact grenades

[midnight snow]

I always kill my self with them

[rich arch]

Lmao 💀

[vale lichen]

They rush and die me and my bot teammates have to cluch the round somehow

[rich arch]

I have c4 in most loadouts, campers get smoked

[vale lichen]

Effective in terminal

[rich arch]

Hilarious to throw em through windows

[rich arch]

Terminal is just 💀🔫

[midnight snow]

Terminal campers r annoying

[vale lichen]

💀💀

[vale lichen]

Sniper campers so they give me no choice

[rich arch]

Every single round has em… its one of few maps I literally cannot rush

[rich arch]

Fair enough

[dire olive]

😭

[vale lichen]

I forgot to mention i use restock on that loadout

[dire olive]

They’re not replying on my emails

[midnight snow]

Today I threw a contact nade in the smoke n it killed 2 ppl im very proud

[rich arch]

Restock? 💀

[rich arch]

Great luck

[vale lichen]

Yes for more fun

[midnight snow]

Oh but crash campers

[rich arch]

My luckiest was probs almost going negative in kills then landing a 13 killstreak before the match ended 💀

[vale lichen]

If i am playing tdm sometimes i only use contact nades *just a me thing

[rich arch]

I have ways to deal with them, not too bad

[rich arch]

Equipment in tdm = suicide for me so I have all my equipment for snd

And a contact nade loadout with a molotov one in case of hp or dom

[midnight snow]

Yesterday I was playing tdm n each person was guarding each other in one building😭on crash I hate that map

Literally take that map outta ranked

[vale lichen]

I use them to annoy the fk out of enemies lol

[rich arch]

Is it the big house—not the tall one, the long one near spawn

[vale lichen]

And make them rage quit or threats on chat

[rich arch]

Shockingly ive seen almost no slurs or threats this season

[midnight snow]

The house by b idk wtf it’s called

n then they camped the build where a would be if it was snd

[rich arch]

Oh that one… theres a secret to that

[vale lichen]

Nah you reached leggy (you are with sweats) and i am with bots with 0kills who only know to talk in chat

[midnight snow]

I went 0-15 💀

[rich arch]

💀💀💀💀

[midnight snow]

I just gave up n sat in a building

[nocturne tree]

jesus was that an experience

[rich arch]

You can hop up on the crate against the wall, then stand on the wall, you can maybe kill them and if you do you can walk over the wall onto the roof

Its fun to move around a building on the enemies spawn

[nocturne tree]

and im in the Indian server with trash talkers in both 🙏🏻

[midnight snow]

I was just shocked like wtf 😂

[vale lichen]

Same

[midnight snow]

Arabs r the worst

[vale lichen]

Noobs only know to chat

[nocturne tree]

it'll improve my aim that's fs

[vale lichen]

Atleast they know how to play

[nocturne tree]

because i won't get kills

if I don't hit only upper body shots

[vale lichen]

Doesn't abuse in voice or chat

[midnight snow]

That’s why I hate them

[nocturne tree]

na servers 🙏🏻

[vale lichen]

They will literally teach you or help you if you ask them

[rich arch]

Are any of yall gm+ 😭 maybe I could play with yall tomorrow/later today

[vale lichen]

But the ping will be high

[midnight snow]

when I play with my Arab friends I just sit in a corner bc ik we winning 💀

[rich arch]

☠️

[nocturne tree]

🙏🏻 only experience i ever had with vc in cod is finding a guy who spoke my native language and scream slurs in Assamese

[worthy grail]

Hello

Grau is overrated as hell

[rich arch]

Lmao I started using audio this year only 😭

[vale lichen]

I like them

[worthy grail]

The only thing that keeps it meta is the dumb recoil and good base irons
Everything else is either meh or merely above average

[rich arch]

Its just super well rounded and easy to use thats why its op

[vale lichen]

I don't play with mic or speaker on with randoms

[nocturne tree]

😭 same but sometimes it's funny as fuck

[rich arch]

Gn yall 🫡

[nocturne tree]

gn

[midnight snow]

gn

[midnight snow]

Me too not when I go against them tho

[worthy grail]

Yeah but besides the recoil
Kilo with extended light barrel mono supp 50r no stock granu is much better than grau

[midnight snow]

Kilo overrated

It’s slower than Grau

[worthy grail]

Combat stock is kinda gae

[worthy grail]

Wtf
Ext barrel, tac supp, 60r, steady stock and either granu or disable

[worthy grail]

Dumb idea

[worthy grail]

Gun

[worthy grail]

Please tell me you average like 3kd against those dumbasses

[worthy grail]

No

Switchblade mythic 👎👎

Just buy cx9 mythic or smth

Pros like base switch more than mythic switch
And qq9 isn’t that good

[midnight snow]

Huh

[fading topaz]

should i use the hvk or the type 25 for close to mid range?

i have the soldiers suite epic skin for hvk and battle grandeur for the type 25

[tawny walrus]

HVK.

[fading topaz]

alright

anyone got a good build for the hvk?

[jovial spruce]

For mp or snd ?

[worthy grail]

HVK definitely

No question lmao Type 25 is mid af right now

[fading topaz]

snd is the only gamemode i play lmaoo

[fading topaz]

ive been using it and i think its pretty good but idk

[jovial spruce]

Same

[jovial spruce]

This is what I use
Mono
MIP light
MIP strike stock
Large caliber ammo
Gran tape

[worthy grail]

I run marksman mono to main ar

But in snd i would use the build above

Except that strike stock>combat stock

[fading harness]

Is the dlq better than the koshka?

[hybrid cedar]

Ye generally

[nova iron]

What marksman is the best rn?

[ocean narwhal]

koshka better

[ocean narwhal]

sks

for 1 tap marksman guns
aggressive to passive
mk2 > kilo > spr

[jovial spruce]

Nah

Koshka better

[viscid belfry]

both r nice but dlq its the best

[tired grove]

Yeah

[jovial spruce]

Koshka has better ads time and quickscoping capabilities

I have no idea why people think the dlq is better

[digital needle]

If they don't change Mythic CX9 Voice lines to CN, Never.

[cloud imp]

whats a good pkm rusher build?

[visual kite]

Anyone got a good lapa br build?

[narrow glen]

@visual kite, 22 Server Rank

[ornate jackal]

Rusher? Pkm? Ur using it wrong

But alas ill build one rq

[tawny walrus]

I’m running this.

[ornate jackal]

Theres ur “rushing” pkm

[tawny walrus]

I’d use this.

[cloud imp]

oh.

[ornate jackal]

Yea the build komi provided is generally better. Pkm is made to just sit and spray. Its too slow to rush or constantly rotate as you would like

[cloud imp]

if i were to use a melee and the sprint +5% perk and their build, would it work?

[torn roost]

Rly pretty skin

[ornate jackal]

Would what work

[cloud imp]

would it work for rushing

[ornate jackal]

Im going to show you a build just for pure ads on it

[cloud imp]

okay thank you

[tawny walrus]

Wouldn’t recommend to use that.

[formal river]

Should I change anything?

[ornate jackal]

The highest possible ads and how it compares to ak117

[ornate jackal]

Im gonna use it to see if its possible for rushing pkm and ill let you know

[cloud imp]

i got 49 kills in ranked even though i think it was a bot lobby (i am grandmaster rank)

[rich arch]

@tawny walrus sorry to ping but Is this a good build?

[ornate jackal]

I stand corrected its possible. However judging off performance in shipment i wouldnt use it past 33m which means midrange. This is against real players @cloud imp

I still recommend using the standard slow build tho, but if rushing is ur style its actually possible and somehow not that bad

[ornate jackal]

U should use marksman barrel instead of mip ext. also if laser has been bothering u then just use the gran foregrip or any perk. Its decent tho

[tawny walrus]

Yep.

[digital needle]

Perfect

[cloud imp]

alright thank you

[rich arch]

Alr thanks

[vale lichen]

Cbr old meta build

I am glad they nerfed it

[ornate surge]

eeeeeee

just got the switchblade mythic aaaaa

[tawny walrus]

Same.

[digital needle]

Still Meta on Garena

[tired grove]

The GOATED meta

CODM should nerf it

[tired grove]

[digital needle]

Nerf long range damage. That's what it should nerf

[hoary otter]

anyone got a good ak47 class or a hvk class lmk broskis

[amber gale]

I have a love hate relationship with this sniper lol
Love bc it’s quicker then the other rifles decent sized mag
Hate the chance of getting a hit marker bc I didn’t hit the enemy high enough

[visual kite]

Try using the outlaw. Feels like it gets less hitmarkers than before

[amber gale]

It hasn’t gotten a buff tho

[visual kite]

idk but it's either a silent buff or i got better

Ive barely been getting hitmarkers with it recently

yo anyone got a good spr class for br

[simple ledge]

Ak47 gunsmith for ranked pls

[jovial spruce]

Snd or mp?

[simple ledge]

Mp

[jovial spruce]

Let me get it

[jovial spruce]

Mono
MIP light
No stock
OWC tac laser
Large mag B

[simple ledge]

Thanks

[rich arch]

Why #codm-gunsmith-builds got so many haters lol u see a good build and it got 20 dislikes 😂

[visual kite]

idk

meanwhile i get 15 likes and no dislikes

for an alright build

is msmc good in br

[hoary otter]

the mip light short or extended

[jovial spruce]

Short

[visual kite]

cordite or gks for br

[novel abyss]

Fuck them BO4 guns

[amber gale]

Dunno what the buff on this was but it’s annoying to face no himarkers and it’s nice and mobile simmilar to locus quite like it now

[jovial spruce]

Omg the J358 is sooo good

I'd say better than the gs50

[north rune]

Tactical suppressor to Stopping power or Fmj

[ornate jackal]

Gks

[rich arch]

I already said not to judge the loadout lol its not one I actually recommend its just what I like myself

[rich arch]

Working great so nope

[rich arch]

For tdm it depends, averaging more like 2kd but its not like I camp
What rank are you anyways

[rich arch]

Only in close quarters, as always deagle slaps in long ranges

[jovial spruce]

Idk it just feels waaay better

I love it

[inland saddle]

What guns seem good for ranked this season?

Or any type of aggressive gun

[fervent scarab]

You like shotguns?

[inland saddle]

Nope

Anything mid-range would be good

[fervent scarab]

Smg?

But than the question what smg you like?

[inland saddle]

Ones with either fast movement, or low recoil

[fervent scarab]

Qq9?

[inland saddle]

Hmm

I got a few builds with that

For ranked I use
Mono
Recon tac long
No stock
Tac Lazer
45 round mag

[fervent scarab]

That's what I also use

[inland saddle]

Ayee

[fervent scarab]

I also use the golden decree skin

[inland saddle]

Is that build still good since I haven't played ina while

[fervent scarab]

Yea

I haven't seen a change for it yet

Idk if there is one tho

[inland saddle]

Im using the thorns of vengeance one since it ain't that bad

[fervent scarab]

True

[inland saddle]

Bet

[fervent scarab]

Mine has a build in red dot

[inland saddle]

All my qq9 buids are iron sights besides one

[fervent scarab]

I'm still looking for a 5 finger claw hud

[inland saddle]

I use reg claw since i play ona phone

[fervent scarab]

I'm also playing on phone

[inland saddle]

Slightly gotta re learn using it doe

[fervent scarab]

S23 ultra 😅

[inland saddle]

Ayee

[fervent scarab]

So 5 fingers will do

[inland saddle]

I was planning on getting it

Since I got the base s20

[fervent scarab]

It's decent the s20

[inland saddle]

It still works perfectly so ion really got much of a reason to upgrade so far

The L-car still not bad

[narrow glen]

@inland saddle, 9 Server Rank

[fervent scarab]

Still need a 5 finger hud but I'm just to bad to utilize and get one 😂

[grizzled flame]

Guys is the fennec lair of ice good?

[tawny isle]

fennec is good in general

[grizzled flame]

But the skin does not add something?

[rich arch]

Just experiment, layouts dont work the same for everyone

[fervent scarab]

I know but I just have to see a 5 finger hud and I can utilize it to my liking, so you have to happen one that I can use 😅

[jovial spruce]

Nope
it's a free skin what do you expect?

[rich arch]

Check on yt

Im just a thumbs player

[fervent scarab]

oh

[hollow panther]

Type up raging cactus he has a 5 finger hud

Though i think 4 is kinda the sweet spot

[viscid belfry]

skins dont change weapon stats

[ruby iris]

flashback to the times where skins changed stats

[rich arch]

Is there a shotgun that’s clearly superior than any other?

[ornate jackal]

Doesnt the uh bundle thing change stats?

Like when you have a 3/3 set

[fervent scarab]

i just wanted to up my game

[fervent scarab]

found a 5 finger

[jovial spruce]

Krm is the superior shotty

[tawny isle]

hs2126

[rich arch]

Doesn’t know what? What I miss?

And also did yall notice the names

[austere igloo]

Wtf is this?

[fading topaz]

why does everyone say the type 25 is bad? im cooking with it rn

[austere igloo]

Your opponents suck

[fading topaz]

im playing grandmaster 3 ranked rn

[austere igloo]

Real pros would prevent u from cooking it

[fading topaz]

SnD

[austere igloo]

Doesn’t matter

We have bot level teammates at legendary

So gm3 is not special

[fading topaz]

the only really bad players ive been getting are my teammates

[austere igloo]

Of course

[fading topaz]

who sit in the opposite bomb site while the enemies defuse..

[austere igloo]

That’s always the case

[austere igloo]

Normal

[fading topaz]

ig ill just keep using the type 25 until people play around it

then just switch back to my m13

[austere igloo]

Imma continue using ffar

[fading topaz]

ffar is so good rn

i just dont have a good skin for it so i dont run it

[austere igloo]

Idc, I run base ffar with tournie camo

[rich arch]

I have the mythic and the leggy FFAR, yall can use them

it wouldn’t be hard for them to allow friends to let friends use inventory

[ornate jackal]

It wouldnt be but codm is codm

[hollow panther]

Then less sales

[rich arch]

Right. And that’s obviously the reason why it won’t happen. And they shouldn’t do it but if they wanted to they could ez

[rich arch]

I’m sayin idk it’s on the store page tho

[rich arch]

That one in the bottom left, hangings. wtf

[austere igloo]

Oh wait

It’s the strongbox thing

[tawny walrus]

Ah, nothing too much. There was a guy, who was acting like a clown with his “awesome” builds and he started talking about diamond grinding. I thought that he was talking crap about me, so I pinged you, because you’re the one who collecting all camos and etc.

[shadow briar]

they could also ez bring back bundles, but again less profit

money getting in the way of game design as usual, putting all the dev time into skins instead of updates, maps and interesting weapon tweaks

[midnight snow]

this is sad 💀ik I didn’t get a crazy amount of kills but damn give me my xp

[upper osprey]

[midnight snow]

I’m abt to try that I’m sick of dying to that gun

[upper osprey]

It moves slower than my internet

[upper osprey]

I am not in favour with it xd

But this skin is kinda beautiful

So i try swordfish out

[rich arch]

Best marksman gun? If it’s the sks then what’s the second best?

[rich arch]

Dont use slow attachments then

Halberd mag makes it perfectly stable with absurd bsa and range

[rancid verge]

[austere igloo]

As val

It’s the faster sks (with 15rnd fmj)

[upper osprey]

Ok

[rich arch]

Not me

[minor flare]

No one wants that

[cold palm]

U don’t need halberd mag unless u try for headshots

IMO

[neon onyx]

does anyone have any recomendations for a good close range sniper??

i need it for a 1v1

[tawny walrus]

@strong monolith Can you give Groza BR build, please?

[keen gazelle]

thats a bad build for it

[midnight snow]

I’m just gonna try the gun lol I don’t even really use ars if I like it I’ll ask u for a build

[keen gazelle]

go for it, i prefer the m16 for burst weapons

[rich arch]

CHICOM BABY

[hybrid cedar]

does everyone prefer builds for speed/ mobility over accuracy and control

[rich arch]

Rushers/aggressive player prefers the first and campers/passive players prefer the second

[carmine vine]

How do you like move the direction u aiming or looking without hitting the shoot button

[rich arch]

Well ordinarily there isn’t that big box in the middle or the yellow arrow or flashlight button so I move between the map and shoot button

[little bison]

press the ads button

[rich arch]

He said without that button

[little bison]

oh

[rich arch]

Just while running ig

Huds are pretty personal though thats just what works for me, I do recommend lowering button opacity and putting a button over your crosshair though

[carmine vine]

Wait so u play 3 finger ?

[rich arch]

Nope

I only ever did that on ipad

[carmine vine]

Wym button over crosshair

[rich arch]

You can see the settings button on my crosshair in the ss

[carmine vine]

Ohhh does it help aim or something

[rich arch]

The autosprint button is the most commonly used I just prefer to have a circle

[rich arch]

Yeah, especially for bad sights

[carmine vine]

Woahhh I did not know that

Wow I feel stupid 😂😂

[rich arch]

Nah nah its not a super common thing

[carmine vine]

Oh only good people use it

[rich arch]

Its pretty useful though, might just take a little getting used to

[rich arch]

Lmao sorta, ig thats why some gaming phones have built in dots over the crosshair

[carmine vine]

Ahhh I see now imma try the hud u showed

[rich arch]

Alr, and again it changes a bit based on device and player so screw with it however you like

Had to adjust my whole layout after getting this new phone lol

[strong monolith]

Milspec barrel
Striker fg
50r mag
Firm grip
5mW

[narrow glen]

@strong monolith, 19 Server Rank

[tawny walrus]

Thanks!

[hybrid cedar]

based on gunsmithing builds i feel like most people here play rush then

[rich arch]

This specific gun and build is amazing and super underrated. You guys have to try it out ASAP. It needs more appreciation and attention

[rich arch]

Awful build but good gun yes

[rich arch]

The build is good you don't know what you're talking about

I never posted an awful build

In the last 2 years here

Ghost how many mythics do you have

[rich arch]

Duplex ammo

[rich arch]

Ofc

Enough said

It makes it a bad shotgun is all 💀

[rich arch]

Hahahah you really don't know what you're talking about and it shows

[rich arch]

Wild

It takes the damage down to 24

@strong monolith Paths tester and writer will tell you my friend

I havent used that mag in a bit but I recall it being awful

Base oden is so strong why not just use it?

It has been tested by Paths writers and the results showed that the Duplex ammo is more consistent

There would be no reason from me to post an awful build here

Especially if it would be bad

Fair enough I’ll try it out afresh

If it was awful I wouldn't even recommend it or post it

[rich arch]

Theres a lot of bad players aight

I'm not one of them I believe

Yeah I saw you nuke with the sks

[digital needle]

Super broken, I've tried it

[rich arch]

Just saw the message.. not many to be honest

[rich arch]

[digital needle]

Oden is the most broken gun in Codm history

[rich arch]

Well no… some old metas were absurd

That ads buff can make you use steady stock and make it very good now

Im a combat stock man with a marksman barrel and/or colossus supp for the range

Im guessing duplex ammo works differently though

Combat/ steady depending on preference yeahh

[dawn stag]

you have source for it? i will check it out

[rich arch]

Truee

[unreal gale]

FFARSunny:D

[rich arch]

Do you have fps drops this season?

Something broke my game. I think it was the super resolution. The icons all came more inside, the hud was ruined and on top of that I'm having fps drops

[tired grove]

Nope

[digital needle]

Yes

[tired grove]

I would say sometimes it’s broken

[digital needle]

*Always.

[digital needle]

Last game i went into pub match and facing player with Max level Mythic SX9

It does lag my game so much, causing huge frame drop. It almost unplayable but luckily i manage to play passive then destroyed him with Gunship.

My phone CPU usage spike at 100% all time in the match

[unreal gale]

Might be. Try clearing game data

But no, my Fps has been fine

[tired grove]

Nah

[unreal gale]

Mythic 👀

[unreal gale]

I started using ffar today after upgrading it to level 4

It's pretty darn good. I guess my settings just weren't right the last time I tried it

Becuase the aim assist is not bad at all on it

[digital needle]

Yeh

[tired grove]

NOOO

[amber gale]

Since it got a buff more ppl are using it here’s the best build I got for it

[ruby iris]

[tawny walrus]

Same reaction.

[amber gale]

What it’s no recoil great range and still got good mobility

[narrow glen]

@amber gale, 10 Server Rank

@amber gale, 12 Server Rank

[rich arch]

61 is awful mobility 😭

[amber gale]

That’s what the lightweight perk is for

It’s ads speed is still good

[rich arch]

Its like -30%

[amber gale]

It’s still a perfect balance between fast ADS and no recoil

[rich arch]

-30% is slow asf 😭

M13 recoil is mostly just pull down no need for a whole ranger foregrip

[keen gazelle]

you both are soo incredibly wrong it hurts

[amber gale]

No it’s not slow

[rich arch]

Yeah thats pretty slow

No rushing from that

Theres also sprint to fire delay

And the manual ads button is faster than holding down shoot

[amber gale]

And yet I’ve been using it for rushing

[rich arch]

Ive used the m13 for years I know it pretty well 🗿

[rich arch]

What league

[amber gale]

If u find it too slow for rushing that’s just a you problem

[amber gale]

Legendary

[tawny walrus]

That’s slow.

[rich arch]

322ms 💀

[rich arch]

No, as a rusher I know whats slow or not

[keen gazelle]

years…

soo youve been playing for years and have yet to build a good low recoil m13

brother theres better ways to build a low recoil gun

[rich arch]

I dont build it like that for low recoil

[keen gazelle]

youre just botching it, it objectively sucks

oh i thought you were the blue guy

well thats for the blue guy lol, better way to build a low recoil m13

[amber gale]

Except this one I got from here a few months ago when my other build actually sucked

[keen gazelle]

well try this, since ads doesnt matter for you

[amber gale]

It’s a balance of low recoil while still holding good mobility

[rich arch]

Nahh its ranges are pretty dang solid

Its just easy to use

[keen gazelle]

that but laser for the foregrip

[keen gazelle]

op foregrip

[rich arch]

No need its easy to use

[amber gale]

I don’t use lasers when I don’t have to they give positions away when camping in snd

[rich arch]

I have sync ads and max sight distance

[tawny walrus]

Eh, I can’t play without laser.

[rich arch]

Relatable

[amber gale]

Compensator muzzle instead of the for grip faster ADS and still no recoil

[fossil kiln]

I need a good br loadout of garu

[rich arch]

No bsa 😭

If youre tryna build it like that just use a different weapon im ngl

[amber gale]

That makes little difference to me

I can still use it like a sniper

Same as I do with groza and that’s got terrible BSA

[rich arch]

The m13 isn’t for that.. use a grau or something or an lmg

[amber gale]

No

Lmg are too slow

[rich arch]

Build it faster

[amber gale]

Dosent matter if it’s not for that I can still use it for that

[fossil kiln]

Guys

[narrow glen]

@fossil kiln, 1 Server Rank

[rich arch]

I dont care for the grau so idk

[amber gale]

Then it has terrible recoil which dosent work when ur tryna deal with a peeler or a camper

[fossil kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-no-undecided-not-sure-gif-26295992

[amber gale]

Who’s tucked away in a small spot that’s difficult to hit em

[rich arch]

Not max ads speed per say

Also just turn on sync ads

[fossil kiln]

So wat is a good gun for br other than lmg

[fossil kiln]

Ohh ok

[amber gale]

FFAR for BR is great

Or ODEN

[amber gale]

That zooms everything out when ADS

[rich arch]

Yup

[amber gale]

I only use that when I don’t want to change optic on a sniper

[rich arch]

Oden, m13, lk24

And amax apparently

[rich arch]

If you practice its a very good setting

[fossil kiln]

Really?

[narrow glen]

@fossil kiln, 2 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Youre on ipad anyways

[rich arch]

I keep seeing it high up on charts, never tried it personally

[amber gale]

Not when using iron sights on an AR tryna hit smth far away

[rich arch]

Im on phone and do that plenty

[fossil kiln]

Gimme ODEN n m13 loadout please 🙏🏻

[rich arch]

Took me a couple of weeks to get used to

[rich arch]

For br I can’t remember what I had and I can’t leave this room lol

[amber gale]

My visions blurry in one eye I have to close it when using snipers as it is don’t need to be doing that for AR

[narrow glen]

@amber gale, 13 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Alr fair enough then

[fossil kiln]

Ohh nws then

[rich arch]

Yeah, however for oden something like
Colossus suppressor
Marksman barrel
Ranger foregrip
Extended mag b
Tac laser (lasers can’t really hurt you in br, if for some reason they do then use steady stock)

[fossil kiln]

Thanks homie

[rich arch]

Np 🫡

Br should just be built for range and bsa and recoil really

[fossil kiln]

Ohh ok

Bsa?

[rich arch]

Bullet spread accuracy

[keen gazelle]

bsa… in br

[spare hawk]

ak 47?

[rich arch]

@tawny isle that was my exact same bizon build lol

[tawny isle]

its the standard

[rich arch]

As for the m13 I need a red dot, I understand using a no stock though

Combat stock just has better bsa and recoil

Though ofc the ads movement speed is worse

[rich arch]

Yup, my qq9 is pretty standard for smart players and my m13 is fine for most lol idk why im getting so many downvotes

[tawny isle]

the mp5 and biOn are good but the m13 has too much bsa loss from the silencer barrel, and the stock makes you lose too@much mobility

try this

dont mind the second image my bad

[rich arch]

Silencer barrel has no bsa penalty

Just recoil

And yeah no stock has more mobility but I have no recoil help and only tac laser for reducing bsa 😭

[rich arch]

LMFAO how random 😂 bro I was confused as fuck. Like bro is lowkey trying to spread the word on how to whistle properly in gunsmith channel

[tawny isle]

dont mind it i accidentally clicked it

[tawny isle]

also m13 sight is pretty good by itself

[rich arch]

Instead of removing it he just said fuck it I’ll let it ride, someone might find it useful.. I’m ngl I read it twice and I’m gonna try it out bc I always wondered how to do it

[rich arch]

Yeah, I just am more consistent with a red dot

[tawny walrus]

o_0

[rich arch]

😂😂

[tawny walrus]

@ruby iris I wonder when mods will revoke gunsmithing perms from him lol.

[ruby iris]

At this point im just downvoting to spite him tbh

[tawny walrus]

Same.

[ruby iris]

[tawny isle]

i would replace stock with gran grip

[tawny walrus]

I had enough already.

[rich arch]

Too slow then

[ruby iris]

Timi when

[rich arch]

Mdrx when

[tawny walrus]

AX-50 when?

RAM-7 when?

[ruby iris]

Maddox

[rich arch]

Ehh

Desert tech mdrx isn’t really similar from what ive seen?

[ruby iris]

Same, but it'll prolly be just another 370-380ms ads sniper

[tawny walrus]

LW3 is going to be awesome. I can’t wait for it.

I’ve been watching Bams a lot and he was using LW3 mostly.

[ruby iris]

You can get the foregrip handguard

[rich arch]

Ah okay thats fairly similar

Too bad maddox sights suck

[ruby iris]

Speaking of mdr

Why the fuck is the extended barrel for that shit is like 20k in ab?

The gun isnt even good

[tawny walrus]

I don’t know, because I’ve never used it before, thought I have it from one of my raids.

[ruby iris]

10k bolt

20k barrel

[tawny walrus]

What the hell?

[ruby iris]

Nvm

Price dropped

8k bolt

19k barrel

[fading harness]

Best switchblade build?

[tawny walrus]

• Monolithic suppressor
• Extended barrel
• Light stock
• Tactical laser
• Extended magazine

[worthy grail]

Swap out mono for tac supp and laser for granu

Laser vs granu is a preference thing

But tac supp>mono for sure

[tawny walrus]

BSA doesn’t really matter for CQC SMGs.

[drowsy lion]

How about for the Grau what’s the best build for it I got the mythic but I don’t know what build to use for mp rank

[narrow glen]

@drowsy lion, 8 Server Rank

[tawny walrus]

• Tactical suppressor
• Archangel barrel
• No stock
• 50 magazine
• Cronen rear grip

[dusty heart]

Is mureki a botted account?

[ruby iris]

Idk, downvoting either way

Fucker's been spamming too much

[dusty heart]

The gun names too

[minor kestrel]

y’all got a good setup for fennec? i got the Death Engine blueprint and wanna have a setup that is really reliable

[narrow glen]

@minor kestrel, 1 Server Rank

[fading topaz]

best qxr build?

for SnD

[drowsy lion]

Thanks man I will try it out right now

[pale willow]

Any good drh builds?

[pale willow]

Thanks

[half fulcrum]

Yw

[vale iris]

Bk57 build?

[vale iris]

Thanks

[narrow glen]

@vale iris, 7 Server Rank

[half fulcrum]

Yw

[lyric nymph]

Who wanna play some cod ??

[hollow panther]

Qxr buid?

[amber gale]

Which barrel is better on FFAR can’t really decide

[rich arch]

[half fulcrum]

Non

[amber gale]

It is it’s one of those 3 barrels

[bold sigil]

Is the krig 6 worth using

[ornate jackal]

Yes

[fervent scarab]

krig 6 build? (i have mythic)

[ornate jackal]

Replace rds for bo grip or a perk

U can also use fast ext mag instead if u want faster reload

[fervent scarab]

thx

[torn roost]

Is Argus good/better than KRM? And can I have a build plz

[half fulcrum]

Imo krm is over all better…

Try this

[torn roost]

Thx!

I’m definitely a lot more used to KRM, haven’t tried Argus before

Also, are ppl going for range build on DRH nowadays with mono + ranger?

[half fulcrum]

Yw

[torn roost]

That’s a real pretty blueprint on diamond

[half fulcrum]

Yep

[half fulcrum]

Thanks

[amber gale]

The Argus u can use like a more mobile faster fire rate ADS sniper

[pastel roost]

It basically is

[amber gale]

No everyone still uses ADS speed builds

For quick scoping

[pastel roost]

I usually go for range

And some mobility

[amber gale]

I focus on mobility I deal with a lot of sweat wannabes and I gotta jump in and out try shoot em before they shoot me

I use HDR for anything that can be done with camping and locus for mobile fights

SKS for bit of both

[pastel roost]

True

I main the drh rn so I’m mainly focusing on my build that stabilizes everything

[fading topaz]

does anyone have an SnD build for the HVK?

[shadow briar]

its a kilo/spr with functioning hip fire

[shadow briar]

Mono Supp, Light Barrel, Large Cal Mag , Gran Tape, Strike Stock

[fading topaz]

alr ty

[torn roost]

Ahh I see

Wasn’t it banned for awhile in pro play

[amber gale]

Only crazies even try hip fire with SKS lol

[amber gale]

SKS Argus HVK all banned for pro play

[shadow briar]

argus lol

[shadow briar]

probably AK soon as well

[torn roost]

Lol imo Argus shouldn’t be banned

[amber gale]

Hip fire is kinda shit on it tbh it’s ADS that it’s a real threat

[torn roost]

At least from my experience in lobbies

[amber gale]

U gotta hit dead centre otherwise hitmarker

[shadow briar]

yes, but hip CAN still be reliably lethal, while still ADS killing at DMR ranges

[amber gale]

Quite like this it’s faster then HVK and has more ammo and a faster reload

[torn roost]

If ur gonna hip fire on Argus just use krm

KRM is the hip fire goat

[amber gale]

Actually PDW is the og hip fire goat it used to be so good ppl used it to shoot across the map while hip firing

[shadow briar]

pdw is still a solid smg

[real crescent]

BY15 is also good

[torn roost]

That was like pre season beta

[amber gale]

I kinda use it like an AR but mainly just cus it’s got my fav camo for it

[shadow briar]

whens the last time anyone used BY tho

[amber gale]

Besides that my main arsenal is HVK FFAR HDR locus groza

[amber gale]

And SKS

[real crescent]

I still do

[amber gale]

I’ve seen a couple noobs use it that’s abt it

[shadow briar]

out of curiosity, how come?

[torn roost]

Remember when Cordite was the king of codm

[amber gale]

I sometimes still use it lol it’s a solid SMG

[real crescent]

Just showing that it still usable

• And can defend yourself

[pale willow]

Wsg people
Anyone got a Holger build

[amber gale]

The current king of ranked MP lol altho I don’t use it all that often tbh

[shadow briar]

that build kinda wack but ok

[shadow briar]

i see what you mean, its pretty solid

[amber gale]

Not rly focusing on recoil reduction bc of campers and peelers

Peekers*

[shadow briar]

it has basically no recoil anyways