codm-gunsmith-help

[errant crypt]

I love to run SPR and Crossbow sometimes

[austere igloo]

Nahh

I hv diamond mw11

[errant crypt]

When you off that second joint of the night and enter the flow state mmmmm

[austere igloo]

Renetti is okay but it could be better

Deagle…i don’t need to explain

J358…automatic chad

[errant crypt]

SnD only

[austere igloo]

Damn the skin I have not seen for a long time

[errant crypt]

Whats your favourite to use?

[worthy grail]

Welp trash builds again

[rich arch]

💀

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 10 Server Rank

[errant crypt]

show me a good one

[worthy grail]

No I was talking about the red dot leggy qq9

But since the community has gained some extra braincells since the last time I checked the builds

The like to dislike ratio makes sense

Unlike last time when a laser dlq build was upvoted 23-0

[errant crypt]

ew laser

[narrow glen]

@errant crypt, 12 Server Rank

[worthy grail]

Exactly

[narrow glen]

@worthy grail, 24 Server Rank

[worthy grail]

Diamond>damascus EASILY

Why

That bsa is not it

[hollow panther]

Whats wrong with laser dlq?

[worthy grail]

Mono isn’t worth it

[worthy grail]

Laser does too little to justify that enemies can see it

[hollow panther]

Only when scoped in

[worthy grail]

If it did like 7% it would be worth it

[worthy grail]

Which is what you want to do most of the time

[hollow panther]

true so bring back prime snipers

[worthy grail]

Unless you’re a crazy aggressive sniper

Then sure ig it’s fine

But for 90% of use cases fmj>laser

[hollow panther]

Ig for snd

[worthy grail]

Yes

I am talking about SnD sniping not respawns

But you hardscope in respawns anyways so I don’t think it’s worth it either

[rich arch]

Can someone give me 2 mx9 builds?
One for mp and one for snd

[tawny isle]

that would be the qq9

[tawny walrus]

Try this.

[rich arch]

Roger that

Thx

[tawny walrus]

You’re welcome.

[hasty pawn]

Can sum1 give me Icr-1 and dlq builds?

[bold sigil]

Can someone hit me up with an m4 build (with underbarrel grenade launcher)

[umbral obsidian]

Mono
Launcher
40 or 50 mag
Gran
Light barrel (short)

[ocean narwhal]

bruh launcher

oh he asked for it wtf

[hasty pawn]

Thanks bro

[umbral obsidian]

I would have never given it to him but 💀💀💀

[mystic cedar]

because you have to see your teammate struggling to clutch sometime

[worthy grail]

What if your teammate is cracked

[simple ledge]

Pls provide DRH gunsmith for BR.

[proud arch]

Can some one give me a good recoil fenic

[proper linden]

Anyone got an ideal M13 build?

[ornate jackal]

Wounding can be whatever else u need like optic or mono sup.
Laser for gran

[simple ledge]

Right thanks

[ornate jackal]

Perk can be any perk OR laser

Do not need an optic for m13 but try it if u have a skill issue

[ornate jackal]

U can swap any attachment with granulated tape for better bsa. If recoil still sucks then use ranger bar over operated

[bright dragon]

So the second load out is what I was told was the best Cx-9 build but the first load out is the one I made and it feels so much better. The 2nd load out feels like it has so much more recoil but in reality it has 12 more accuracy. Here are the 2 builds with advanced numbers

[tawny walrus]

Second is already bad, because of strike foregrip.

[bright dragon]

What is the best cx-9 build?

[tawny walrus]

Same goes for the first - grip reduces accuracy.

Change laser to ace rear grip, if you would prefer.

[bright dragon]

The rear grip on the first? That’s not an underbarrel though, most all builds for guns have something on rear grip is it not recommended for this specific gun?

[tawny walrus]

The only good rear grip is granulated one. Other are bad.

Equivalent of granulated grip for CX-9 is Ace grip.

[bright dragon]

Should I switch to ace grip then? I put clutch because it gets rid of a lot of the vertical recoil of the gun

[bright dragon]

I don’t like to use sleight if hand what would be something else to use here?

[tawny walrus]

If you want to reduce vertical recoil, use operator foregrip. It will reduce your ADS speed for a bit, but it’s a way better than the foregrip you’re using.

[hexed bramble]

How do I get cool guns?

[tawny walrus]

Operator foregrip for less recoil.

[bright dragon]

Ok let me try something and I’ll show

[bright dragon]

How’s this?

I didn’t do laser but I might because the aim time is 247 which seems really high

[tawny walrus]

Sweet.

[tawny walrus]

Yeah, I understand. I use laser, because I don’t like to stay ADS for too long.

[bright dragon]

I rush a lot so I don’t feel I’m ads very much because I’m normally seeing them first because I’m always moving

[proven cove]

Who has a good m4 build or icr-1 build?

[umbral obsidian]

Mono
Light barrel (short)
Gran
40 or 50 mag
Tac laser/perk

M4

[cloud imp]

whats a good build for 50 gs and pp19 bizon?

[proven cove]

Ty

[umbral obsidian]

Pp19
Mono/tac
Ext barrel/marksmen
No stock / skeleton stock
Gran
Tac laser / perk

50 gs
Mono/tac
Ext barrel
The trigger that increase fire rate by 20% forgot name
Gran /mag /Tac laser (choose 2 of the 3 your like)

[umbral obsidian]

No

No problem

[low falcon]

Is this a shutgon

[low falcon]

Why write instead of ss

[tough ingot]

Any good dlq33 loadout

[proven cove]

Smg

[low falcon]

Nice shotgun

[jovial spruce]

*shutgon

[low falcon]

Oh no

[jovial spruce]

Lmao

[low falcon]

What is with the flags in your bio

[rancid verge]

The languages they speak

[low falcon]

@jovial spruce where did you learn them

[jovial spruce]

eh i took classes

Im still learning Chinese and arabic

[low falcon]

Was it some requirements or did you do it for fun

[jovial spruce]

Some were requirements and others I did for fun

Anyway imma go

[low falcon]

You shouldve gon with russian

[jovial spruce]

Cheers 👋

[jovial spruce]

Maybe next year

[low falcon]

Stay safe

[jovial spruce]

You too

[low falcon]

🤗

[umbral obsidian]

Don’t have pass

[low falcon]

I hate this but
#codm-gunsmith-builds

[jovial spruce]

Does anyone have an agr 556 loadout?

[bright dragon]

Not my build but someone used this in MP and got a lot of kills. I didn’t like the 12 ammo because you miss one of those or a group of people you aren’t killing all of them what do you think?

[unreal gale]

12 rounds is a joke

like 12 bullets. Really?

[bright dragon]

It really was I tried it I mean if you’re rushing and you get the jump yet but even still if there’s multiple people it’s a no

[unreal gale]

I feel like you literally can't afford to miss with that gun lol

you miss like 2 burst, great you now have 6 bullets to kill the guy

They should've given it 21 bullets

then it'd be decent

but 12 is like giving you 3 shots in your sniper lol

probably more like 2

[bright dragon]

Yea it’s not good I love the cx-9 though I think I’m figuring out how to use it and it’s the gun I’ve used all day yesterday and today.

[rich arch]

Some ppl didn't like this. But unsurprisingly because it's a unique comp build

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

It's not for respawns either

But they tested it and saw that it has faster mobility than melee

Which is interesting

[rich arch]

The damage is so good, literally it would be the most broken gun if it had at least 20 bullets

One burst kill

In BR 2 burst kills

And very good mobility

[rich arch]

For SnD games specifically

[unreal gale]

it having 21 bullets would be equal to the hvks 28

[rich arch]

This build was also used in a tournament and bobby made a video about it

[unreal gale]

hvk is technically a 4 shot kill

and 28 means 7 kills

[hollow panther]

?

[unreal gale]

cx9 is a 3 shot kill so 21 would also be 7 kills

[rich arch]

Well it doesn't work like that actually

[unreal gale]

and hvk is also known for having a tiny mag

the fact that it's a burst gun makes the 12 bullets even more pathetic

it's more like 4 bursts

[rich arch]

Since if you miss some shots (not aiming directly at the head or upper chest) your ttk increases. While with the 12 r mag of CX9 it's a one burst insta kill

And you don't have to aim high

[hollow panther]

to hit all of the one burst tho

High skill weapon ig

[rich arch]

Yeah but the one burst has a good 1st range

Yeah

[hollow panther]

Mhm i was using it

Really requires your aim to be sharp

[bright dragon]

What’s the most meta cx-9 build?

[unreal gale]

silencer barrel, strafe stock, 50 mag, ace tape thing

then 5th attachment can be laser/tac foregrip a/soh

soh is actually really good for cx9 since it;s 35% increase rather than 15

maybe that's what they intended. 35% reload + 12 round mag

12 rounds is still just a joke though

[hollow panther]

It id

[unreal gale]

you can kill like 5 people before you need to pick up a gun lol

[bright dragon]

These have been my 2 builds red has been the one I’ve used the most

[ruby iris]

Use the fa stock

[unreal gale]

first one probably better

[ruby iris]

Op fg to soh/laser/optic/tac fg/whatever

[bright dragon]

Fa stock for both?

[narrow glen]

@bright dragon, 21 Server Rank

[ruby iris]

Ye

[shadow briar]

yep, iirc about 0.1m/s faster than melee (might be misremembering). i used it a while ago when i first got CX9. cqc it CAN 1 burst, but not reliably

[unreal gale]

wait faster than melee?

that's kinda crazy

[shadow briar]

marginally

IIRC, melee is roughly 7.25m/s and cx9 is 7.36-ish?

but you need to run a low range barrel and the burst mag

so it’s really only good if you plan to main a Deagle, makarov or lcar in SnD

[bright dragon]

Which is strafe stock?

[rich arch]

Yeah, 23 barrel, mono to retain the 5% damage deduction and no stock

The 23 barrel gives that +2% movement which makes it faster than melee

[shadow briar]

only use i see for it is using it for speed while running a pistol as your main weapon

[rich arch]

Yeah only in SnD for new openings/pushes

[shadow briar]

lightweight, maybe gung-ho. deagle or lcar, j3 in pubs

[rich arch]

Yeah

[shadow briar]

but no point running it in pubs

[rich arch]

True👍

Hard time when you're about to face multiple enemies

But in SnD you can have unpredictable plays with it

Especially if u also use a stim

[shadow briar]

if Amped applied to pistols might be kinda cracked as a hyper-flank build

[bright dragon]

So this is the best cx-9 build?

[shadow briar]

why fg

don’t remember what the stock does so won’t comment on that rn

but why a foregrip

[rich arch]

I have some screenshots from here and YT for this

Let me check

[neat horizon]

Someone got a good asval gunsmith?

[bright dragon]

I think that’s what ricey had suggested, he said tac fg

[shadow briar]

cqc barrel, fmj, gran tape, don’t remember the rest

fmj mag then build for bsa/ads speed

maybe add a fg if the recoil bug is patched

[rich arch]

1. tac sup, 38 E, FR stock, ace grip , 50 mag
2. 23s, Fr, ace grip, soh , 50 mag
3. 38s, FR, ace grip, tac a foregrip, 50 mag

These 3 cx9 builds

[bright dragon]

Are those the meta builds and is that in order from best?

[rich arch]

The 3 good meta builds recommended from Path exe

[shadow briar]

pretty sure they’re all about the same

basically the same build with slight differences

[rich arch]

The one rice gave you is almost the same as the 3rd one

[rich arch]

Yeah

[shadow briar]

i think 1 would be better range, 2 better reload and 3 better recoil but all by barely noticeable amounts

[bright dragon]

I’m shocked by #1 because of the tac suppressor most builds I’ve been given have used the barrel suppressor

[keen gazelle]

im using a build purely for aesthetic and it still works amazing lol

as long as you have a good barrel, thats all you rlly need in this game

[shadow briar]

good optic/irons is #1

[bright dragon]

I rush with the cx-9 of course I use lightweight ghost and dead silence

[shadow briar]

everything else is secondary

[rich arch]

I found 2 more with mono

[shadow briar]

actually suppressor is second, everything else comes after

[rich arch]

From here #codm-gunsmith-builds

Mono , 38 E, FR, 50 mag, ace grip/ tac laser

[bright dragon]

I prefer better recoil

[shadow briar]

nice range, mono lowers bsa a tad bit should be offset by ace

[rich arch]

Ohh

Yeah

Honestly, most guns have specific meta builds. This one , has like 10 different builds

I don't know which one to pick

[shadow briar]

they’re mostly all basically the same build

[rich arch]

Yeah just some ppl prefer recoil or others want more mobility I guess

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 102 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Others want suppression

[bright dragon]

Right I love the cx-9 I want one that is fast and low recoil that can get mid range if needed

[neat horizon]

What barrel I use?

[rich arch]

How's this?

[rich arch]

I have a 15 FMJ build if you want

[neat horizon]

sure I’ll take it thx

[shadow briar]

nothing fundamentally wrong with it

not how I would run hbra3 personally

[rich arch]

Combat or Skeleton stock, whatever you like

[rich arch]

Use no stock

Otherwise good

[shadow briar]

can swap rds for laser if you have irons you like

[rich arch]

Yeah

This one is mostly an SnD build

[shadow briar]

in that case maybe even a fg for bsa

[rich arch]

I think the one build you posted , that rice gave you and also it was posted by path, is a good option for what you need

[rich arch]

Does it matter on FMJ ?

[shadow briar]

unsure

[bright dragon]

Whose path?

[shadow briar]

supposedly some find the recoil hard

[rich arch]

It has been buffed now

The FMJ penalties are removed I think

[rich arch]

Codm stats analyst. They have a server too. They study the codm stats daily , they also have an updated app that shows all the codm stats and best guns to use in all codm modes. A Twitter acc that shows all the stats and leaks for codm, a yt channel that posts the best meta builds every season. Builds that are either by them or players from Pro codm teams

[bright dragon]

What is the link to them so I can check it out

[rich arch]

It doesn't mean that these are the top notch builds for you. Since each player has his/her own style of play. But you can use those recommended builds and build the best build for you accordingly

[shadow briar]

use them as a base

[rich arch]

For example, many ppl suggest no stock on drh. I prefer the strike stock because the no stock has a vertical recoil and flinch con which I don't like and furthermore, there's a lateral kick that the mip strike stock removes

[rich arch]

I'll send them to you in dms because we can't promote here it's against the rules

[bright dragon]

I know I like to rush, I want low recoil fast TTK with the cx-9 based off that is this the best build

[bright dragon]

Ok thank you!

[rich arch]

Yeah that's exactly what I do.
I use their videos and their recommended builds, then I come here and I ask from the higher role guys the best builds they use. Then I go and watch bobby plays recommendations, and then I combine all these and make the build that I like or mostly prefer

[rich arch]

Can also use FR stock

[bright dragon]

Is it better than Fa?

[rich arch]

I'm checking the differences rn

Because most builds I saw have FR

Like 9/10 builds I'm seeing now have FR

[bright dragon]

I thought FR as well but I think ricey recommended the FA

[rich arch]

Yeah the FA is what you mostly need I think. Less vertical recoil penalty. The FR has more vertical recoil punishment but it's way faster for aggressive gameplay

Honestly depends on your preference now

Use both and see what is the one you mostly prefer

[bright dragon]

So with my current build I can use the FR and don’t get a negative vertical but it’s not as high of a positive but it isn’t a negative vertical

[rich arch]

Oh no, the FR has more vertical penalty

The FA has less vertical recoil punishment

The tac foregrip a I guess it's for the ads spread penalty of the FR stock.. but if you want to use the FR I guess you'll have to see if the recoil is an issue for you

[visual kite]

anyone got a good lapa build for mp?

[rich arch]

@shadow briar @unreal gale What would you suggest

[shadow briar]

lapa?

[visual kite]

yup

[rich arch]

@tawny walrus @ruby iris

[shadow briar]

not using it would be MY suggestion, but i could maybe throw something together

[umbral obsidian]

Agency supp
10.2 ranger
lightweight stock
vandal speed loader
firm grip tape

[rich arch]

For here

[umbral obsidian]

something like that

[visual kite]

just tryna get plat for new smgs

[umbral obsidian]

you can also use agile stock

and mag a

[bright dragon]

Ah so if I use FR stock I want to use the tac foregrip?

[visual kite]

what abt an mp ots class

[shadow briar]

12.4 M03 Barrel, Agency supp, Vandal/Ext A mag, Firm tape, LightWeight stock/SoH/Laser

[rich arch]

Not necessarily. It depends on you honestly. Just the builds that I saw with tac foregrip a had FR. But I guess it was just preference

[shadow briar]

8.1 Task Force barrel, Agency supp, Ext B mag, Firm/Sturdy grip, No Stock

[bright dragon]

The groza seems to have so many options, so we have a good rushing build for it?

[tawny isle]

there is but idk what

apparently it also has the fastest sprint speed

[bright dragon]

This is what I came up with

Faster ads then my SMG

[shadow briar]

i had forgotten the AK got buffed

seeing that 51 almost made me sin

[bright dragon]

Is the groza just a worst version of the Grau? after playing with it for a bit it seems like it was supposed to be a rushing gun but the fire rate isn’t that good even though the gun keeps a good mobility. It seems the grau does it way better

[tawny isle]

its not as good as grau but its better than guns like krig tbh

range isnt as good though

actually maybe if you are accurate

[bright dragon]

The recoil pattern is worse than the grau as well. Even though it has 2 more on fire rate and it seems it can have better control and accuracy then the grau but it doesn’t feel better at all

[torn roost]

Grau is one of those “just pull down” guns right

[bright dragon]

I feel my cx-9 is even better than the groza

[tawny isle]

exactly

all you need to avg 30+ kills each round with that gun is negative skill

[torn roost]

Lmao

I’m a returning player so I’m getting used to the new weapons still

Even without much attachments Grau felt like a beam to me

Kilo 141 also felt quite strong

Haven’t used my old favs (Locus, DLQ, KRM) yet but I’ve seen them in lots of lobbies doing rly well

[hollow panther]

Yeah well

[bright dragon]

How can the grau be used for rushing with a low fire speed of 73?

[ruby iris]

710-730 rpm is average

Not low

[median bay]

how do you throw the ballistic knife, or am i trippin

[narrow glen]

@median bay, 14 Server Rank

[bright dragon]

The fastest mobility I’m getting is 87

[ruby iris]

Why are you using numbers again?

[digital needle]

Great build ?

[tawny walrus]

Marksman barrel is bad.

[rich arch]

Which gun has the most legendary skins?

[ruby iris]

Marksman is good for passive

18% bsa

[bright dragon]

This is my groza against my best version of my cx-9 and it’s very comparable, the one spot difference is of course the firing rate but it has all similar stats of an SMG

[unreal gale]

I use fa

Because faster mobility literally makes my aim worse

So I just go for decent speed

[bright dragon]

What holds this gun back from being better than grau? If only has 1 negative

[median bay]

weird recoil pattern, where it goes sideways i guess

[narrow glen]

@median bay, 15 Server Rank

[unreal gale]

Recoil

Also the range is a joke compared to Grau

[torn roost]

LK is rly good too imo

For long range beaming

[bright dragon]

If you’re rushing though does the range really matter? You’ll more than likely be close or mid at most

[unreal gale]

Well versatility is a perk

If you're only planning to play close to mid range, just use switch

It's better than groza

[robust musk]

Ranger foregrip is good for passive

Why is there gae slow mode now

[tawny walrus]

I think it was always like that.

[torn roost]

Sm1 decided to drop 3 nukes in hp shipment with a diamond Grau…

We’re tryna level our damn guns dude😭

[digital needle]

Marksman barrel better

[robust musk]

inside joke moment

[jovial spruce]

Same thing just happend to me

[robust musk]

[digital needle]

Hyge range + recoil ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rich arch]

Thoughts on Man O War? It's been so long since I saw ppl using this

Cardinal skin collecting dust

[unreal gale]

Asm10 is better

[rich arch]

[unreal gale]

Literally nothing but better

[rich arch]

But I want to use man o war cardinal

[unreal gale]

Better mobility, consistency, ttk, rof, mag size

[rich arch]

I missed it

[unreal gale]

I have the prestige mow

I remember that skin's Ironsight used to suck

But they changed it and now it's decent

[rich arch]

Really?

That's good then

.

[bright dragon]

Switch?

[unreal gale]

switchblade

[bright dragon]

Ah ok yes I love my cx-9 that’s better than the switchblade?

[unreal gale]

it's uhh... different

cx9 is more like a fennec

and switchblade is closer to cbr

[bright dragon]

Cx-9 and fennec are only for close range then but switchblade and cbr are close to mid?

[unreal gale]

yeah...

yeah more or less

[bright dragon]

What’s best switchblade build I’ll give it a try

[unreal gale]

I don't have a fancy pic rn

actually let me log in and get a fancy pic lol

[bright dragon]

Ok thank you!

[unreal gale]

gotta flex that maxed mythic ykyk

@bright dragon

[bright dragon]

Nice thank you! I think I want to go for the grau mythic I do like this one though

[unreal gale]

this one is not good haha

go for the grau

anyone know if the pumpkin maddox is any good?

[rich arch]

[unreal gale]

so many skins I have but never even touched 💀

[tawny walrus]

Bruh...

[alpine needle]

legendary krm builds?

anyone?🥲

[north rune]

Hey

Extended Light Barrel
Marauder Suppressor
No stock
Mip laser
Gran tape

[alpine needle]

sweet

[alpine needle]

thankzz

[mystic cedar]

using speed up kill would be better than granulated in my opinion

[north rune]

Bad in search and destroy

Good in respawns

[upper osprey]

X9 didn't need mythic actually

The original one is already good

But i still paid for the mythic lmao

[undone sandal]

doesn't boost sprint anymore

[bright dragon]

What’s the best rushing grau build now that it has been nerfed

[tired grove]

Tactical suppressor
Archangel barrel
No stock
Any magazine
Cronsen sniper elite grip

[unreal gale]

wait I think the mythic cx9 is super p2w

base cx9 I would for sure use red dot

and mythic cx9 is one of the few skins where I think a red dot is not necessary

[bright dragon]

I just used a super different grau I liked it because it made rushing with it even easier because of how fast I was moving

[unreal gale]

you literally have no range

drop the void II grip and put on nexus barrel

[tired grove]

Use nexus barrel and cronsen sniper elite grip

Remove laser

[unreal gale]

he's probably a 2 thumbs player

[bright dragon]

It was still hitting mid range I’m not going for long distances and I’m constantly rushing the map so at most mid range to close

[unreal gale]

and laser is great for 2 thumb players

[unreal gale]

yeah, but you have literally NO range

nexus barrel is the mid range barrel

without it you literally have smg range

[tired grove]

Yeah

[bright dragon]

This is what I’m going for with this build specifically I want to be able to rush with it and only engage in close to mid at most

It did really well my first game

[unreal gale]

well no, you might as well use cx9 in that case, or fennec

if you're playing like that, don't use grau

like you're literally nerfing yourself

[bright dragon]

Isn’t grau a rushing AR?

[rich arch]

The build is fine if its best for you thats what matters

Flex

[unreal gale]

no, it's a versatile ar

[bright dragon]

Do we have a true rushing AR then?

[unreal gale]

use ffar for rushing

type25 and asval are both great as off metas

[tired grove]

Sometimes

[unreal gale]

also rushing ars need to have range too 💀

every gun needs to have at least mid range

if a gun isn't viable mid range, it's automatically trash

[bright dragon]

Is this the best ffar build?

[unreal gale]

yes

[tired grove]

Yeah

[bright dragon]

Ah it only has 9 range it seems bad, why would you use this over cx-9?

[unreal gale]

can you show the stat page?

[unreal gale]

it depends what you're using it for

ffar is an ar, so you can play mid range decently with it

cx9 mid range is like... well it can kill.... but definitely bad

[unreal gale]

it's 24m

[rich arch]

The fire rate is what makes it good

91 fire rate for 5 shots to 24m is great

[unreal gale]

better than m13

[rich arch]

To extend that use takedown barrel

[upper osprey]

Yes

Cx9 and em2 and holger

[unreal gale]

yeah has 13m

[upper osprey]

Also k6

[unreal gale]

vs 24

I think red dot krig > mythic krig

the mythic isn't good enough

[upper osprey]

Kill effect blocks a lot

[unreal gale]

I think a gun is only truly p2w if mythic > base + red dot

[upper osprey]

Ok

[unreal gale]

in other words, the mythic sight must be >= red dot

which is very very hard to come across

[upper osprey]

Difficult lmao

[unreal gale]

but cx9 is one of them

[upper osprey]

Fennec i think

[unreal gale]

holger too, but you have annodized

[upper osprey]

Fennec one is great

[unreal gale]

yeah

[upper osprey]

Oh kilo

[unreal gale]

kilo is arguable

I'm personally not a big fan of the mythic kilo sight

[upper osprey]

But it's original it good already

[unreal gale]

it feels very unsteady

[upper osprey]

Oh

[unreal gale]

I think hvk cartridge is better than rds too

but obviously red dots are better on ars than smgs

[upper osprey]

Yes

[unreal gale]

so smg skins tend to be more p2w

[upper osprey]

How about qq9

[unreal gale]

because you can't just opt for the red dot option

[unreal gale]

I don't like the mythic

[upper osprey]

Max level ironsight

[unreal gale]

yeah I'm not really a fan of it

I prefer the albatross

[upper osprey]

That's good

I luv it too

[unreal gale]

I tried LK and KN again

I think LK is still better

[upper osprey]

Which skin u prefer on kn?

[unreal gale]

but also, they're both a whole tier under grau lol

grau is literally on a whole different level

[unreal gale]

I'm using the new one

[upper osprey]

Lmao

Me too

[unreal gale]

but I use red dot on both LK and KN leggys

so doesn't matter too much

I think the anime LK gunshape looks great

[upper osprey]

[unreal gale]

so I could also be biased there

[upper osprey]

Ya

But i am not a fan of lk

I prefer kn44

[unreal gale]

you gotta use red dot

run tac supp, ranger barrel, rds, 50 mag, gran tape

[upper osprey]

I k

But i don't like the firing sound of it

[unreal gale]

wait I think it's better than kn haha

I think the new kn is SO loud

[upper osprey]

Xd

[unreal gale]

literally pierces my ears when I shoot that gun

[upper osprey]

I use the em2 mythic without suppressor

So the kn is fine for me

[unreal gale]

em2 mythic is so cool

but the gun sucks 💀

I used it for a domination game and kinda popped off, but never really used it again

think I've played like 10 matches total with that mythic

[upper osprey]

Not sucks really

[narrow glen]

@upper osprey, 19 Server Rank

[upper osprey]

But not strong xd

[unreal gale]

I'm kinda a meta lover so if there exists gun that are significantly better, then the gun is trash xD

[upper osprey]

But i prefer oden rather than em2

[unreal gale]

I don't have oden mythic

[upper osprey]

Oh

Oden without skin is kinda unusable

Aim shake is too big

[unreal gale]

I still remember the day I found out about the oden mythic

[upper osprey]

Xd

[unreal gale]

darn idk why it's so nolstalgic all of a sudden

was taking a shower, and saw it on my phone

thought it was the coolest thing ever

oh I used to play on my phone back then

[upper osprey]

Oden's mythic is literally underrated

[unreal gale]

I've heard people say it's good

but idk, everything feels like a joke compared to grau now

[upper osprey]

Although the perspection sux xd

[upper osprey]

Grau is the goat

[midnight snow]

New player here can I have a OTs9 build?

[unreal gale]

Feel like they increased the aim assist on the grau or something

but that gun literally beams like no other

feels like I'm barely even aiming

[unreal gale]

uhh I recommend you try switchblade instead

[upper osprey]

Ots 9 is ermm....

[unreal gale]

for aggresive playstyle

[midnight snow]

Can’t control it lol

[unreal gale]

or just use grau because it's broken

[upper osprey]

Huh

[midnight snow]

Already do

[upper osprey]

I don't think x9 has recoil

[unreal gale]

are you using this build for switchblade?

[midnight snow]

Na

[unreal gale]

if you're still struggling, use ranger foregrip instead of the stock

[upper osprey]

Ya

[midnight snow]

Something random from a friend

[upper osprey]

If u can't control it

I think mx9 is way harder to control xd

[unreal gale]

ots9 is definitely harder too

[upper osprey]

I have never use ots

[unreal gale]

switchblade has insane aim assist. The base version at least

[midnight snow]

Crocdite is fun

[upper osprey]

So ugly xd

[unreal gale]

the mythic is such a p2l skin 💀

[upper osprey]

Similar with cbr i think

[unreal gale]

wish I could switch my switchblade for cx9

[austere igloo]

So is the mythic m13

[unreal gale]

yeah. and guess which 2 I have on my new account?

[austere igloo]

[upper osprey]

The only disadvantage of cx9 is too annoying xd

[upper osprey]

Noisy

[unreal gale]

I mean switchblade speaks too

[austere igloo]

You got the legendary nailgun?

[unreal gale]

I literally bought out the store

[midnight snow]

I am free to play but I might change that soon

[austere igloo]

But it’s not as annoying as the cx9

[austere igloo]

My condolences

[unreal gale]

nah, it's just because we can't understand Japanese lol

[austere igloo]

I do

But the Japanese they’re speaking is very simple to understand

[unreal gale]

Flying High!

[austere igloo]

when reloading it simply says “reloading, be careful” or “watch out, reloading”

[unreal gale]

Flying High!

Nice pick!

Flying High!

bloody cx9 lol

[ruby iris]

Amogus

[upper osprey]

Cx9 is much noisier

[unreal gale]

mythic m13 is SO OVERRATED

ahh. kinda pissed I bought it

[upper osprey]

Ermmm

[ruby iris]

M13 best mythic (rn)

Cuz balancing

[unreal gale]

sexy level 3 m13

[upper osprey]

Mythic m13 is kinda bad on playing

[ruby iris]

A tier in mp
S tier in br

[unreal gale]

A tier my ass lol

[upper osprey]

I prefer the legendary one

[midnight snow]

Can we agree best mythic ever was DLQ

[ruby iris]

Worth it, until they nerf it

[unreal gale]

I can name like 10 ARs better than m13

[ruby iris]

Do it

[unreal gale]

frick the cd

[ruby iris]

[upper osprey]

No

[midnight snow]

What?

[ruby iris]

Grau, ffar, kilo, what else?

[upper osprey]

Legendary dlqs is already good

No need to use mythic

[unreal gale]

LK, KN, Grau, HVK, Kilo, FFAR, DRH, ASM10, AK47, M16

frick what other ars are there

[midnight snow]

I don’t think so but anyway

[narrow glen]

@midnight snow, 11 Server Rank

[ruby iris]

Kn, drh, asm and ak us definitely not better than m13

[unreal gale]

asval technically too

[upper osprey]

I have use mythic dlq quite aot of time

[unreal gale]

dude you're definitely tripping

KN is for SURE better than m13

[upper osprey]

And i think holidays and zealot are better on quick scoping...

[midnight snow]

You are saying m13 is better that drh?

[unreal gale]

oh, ak117 is better than m13 too

[ruby iris]

Kn is just lk, but bad

[unreal gale]

I think the 2 are very similar

[ruby iris]

Duh

Drh shoots too slow to be good

[unreal gale]

maybe it's because you're thinking of the umbrella

[midnight snow]

The mythic iron sight is better fr fr

[unreal gale]

you try mythic m13 lol. It's bad.

[ruby iris]

Miss a shot and your ttk goes to the shadow realm

[unreal gale]

330ms is not bad

[ruby iris]

Im talking m13, the gun, no skin involved

[unreal gale]

it's still super mid

all 10 I listed are better than m13 imo

[midnight snow]

Na it’s mad

[ruby iris]

Im considering main ar

[upper osprey]

It doesn't means it will be good on quick scoping

[unreal gale]

it's a 3 shot kill

that's super consistent

[ruby iris]

4 at range

[unreal gale]

it's 3 until like 30

[midnight snow]

It’s definitely good for hard scoping

[narrow glen]

@midnight snow, 13 Server Rank

[ruby iris]

Main ar is 30m+

[unreal gale]

plus 440ms for like 40m is not bad anyway

wait no that's pretty bad

[ruby iris]

[unreal gale]

but, drh is meant to be an aggressive ar

well, an ar you play on close range maps

it's only hot rn because ouling popped off with it on summit

[ruby iris]

Aggressive ar
110ms penalty for missing shots

[rich arch]

Ul is just better ngl
Everything the drh does but better, unless you literally need to deal more than 3 tap dmaage

[unreal gale]

just don't miss. Like actually

[midnight snow]

I think HVK is better that DRH

[rich arch]

Fr the drh is easy to aim with anyways

[unreal gale]

well yeah ofc

but it's banned

[midnight snow]

😢

[unreal gale]

but grau > hvk imo

[rich arch]

Im just addicted to the ul its carring me so much

[unreal gale]

for general ranked purposes at least

[midnight snow]

Even with the nerf grau is just too good

[upper osprey]

Bruh

Bot did hardscope

[rich arch]

The nerf was basically nothing

[unreal gale]

^^

[midnight snow]

Hard scoping is good for s&d

[unreal gale]

range nerfs never really matter

[rich arch]

Like -2m of one range

[midnight snow]

Yea

[jovial spruce]

But it's boring af to hardscope

[unreal gale]

main thing about grau is the aim assist

[midnight snow]

Someone did the math it’s 3

[jovial spruce]

Plus you'll get called a camper

[unreal gale]

once you get somewhat used to the recoil pattern, that gun feels like cbr lol

[midnight snow]

It’s efficient and useful tho

[unreal gale]

dlq mythic is probably the single most p2L mythic in the game

[midnight snow]

Now that’s true

[unreal gale]

default dlq is much better

[midnight snow]

Seriously???

[jovial spruce]

What

[unreal gale]

it's the ads animation that seriously messes people up

some people like it, but the vast majority literally can't find where they're aiming with it

[jovial spruce]

I actually snipe better with it

[rich arch]

Still nothing

[unreal gale]

which is why you almost never see good snipers run it

[wary tulip]

I love it tho

[midnight snow]

True

[unreal gale]

because most people think it feels kinda garbage

you have dlqs like bass booster and holidays and advanced artillery

[rich arch]

I picked it up today (yoinked) and its pretty good

[unreal gale]

those feel MUCH better

[midnight snow]

Can’t confirm don’t have it

[unreal gale]

m13 literally has like 280ms ttk at best

well I mean it's super consistent

but also, drh is a close range gun

[rich arch]

M13 is obviously going to be better just bc its so solid in every way

[unreal gale]

so you only use it in close range maps

if you're popping the drh in firing range, well gl

[rich arch]

But if you have good ain drh’s three tap potential outclasses it

[ruby iris]

And 340ms at range, compared to 420ms from drh

[jovial spruce]

I don't know why people hate advanced artillery so much

[rich arch]

Thick sight

[unreal gale]

it's because it looks ugly

[rich arch]

Scope*

[unreal gale]

and the kill effect is super mid

[jovial spruce]

I mean it's not good as bass booster or zealot but come on

[unreal gale]

it's a really bad skin, but good performance wise

[jovial spruce]

I actually like how it looks

[unreal gale]

it's the favourite dlq of china pros

[unreal gale]

I had it on one of my accounts a long time ago. I think it looks great if you get diamond

but the base one looks super boring, especially if you compare to any other dlq leggy

[rich arch]

Zealot is ugly imo

[unreal gale]

I think it's pretty cool

[rich arch]

Cool but just ugly for me

[ruby iris]

Can comp players play with deleted models?

[rich arch]

And the claws on the scope throw me off

[unreal gale]

there are deleted models?

[jovial spruce]

I actually prefer advanced artillery over zealot

[ruby iris]

Koshka - DLQ33

Best koshka skin

[jovial spruce]

Lmao true

[unreal gale]

oh

no clue

[ruby iris]

Also Krig 6 - M4

[unreal gale]

m4 base feels horrible though imo

[upper osprey]

No

Jsu sometimes

[jovial spruce]

I might buy dlq holidays

[ruby iris]

Lapa - RUS79u

[upper osprey]

Main quick scoping

[ruby iris]

Better than base krig

[midnight snow]

Most of the time *

[unreal gale]

okay sure but they have mythic krig

[ruby iris]

But they dont have a koshka skin with good scope

So that's my question

[unreal gale]

yea

koshka with dlq model feels amazing

[jovial spruce]

Facts

[jovial spruce]

It's not about the scope

More like the model and animations themselves ruin the rifle

[unreal gale]

I think it's mainly the scope

[midnight snow]

Anyone gona profit of of the double CP event ?

[jovial spruce]

Yes

[unreal gale]

well you don't profit

[ruby iris]

Dlq's animations looks stiff as fuck
Koshka's was ported straight from bo4 iirc

[unreal gale]

in fact, you give them profit 💀

[upper osprey]

Probably not

[ruby iris]

Ye, i prefer koshka's animations, so i have it downloaded

[upper osprey]

Mostly hardscoping only makes u looks like a bot

[unreal gale]

I think the dlq animation is better

[midnight snow]

Well you are getting a better deal

[unreal gale]

with koshka's ads speed, the dlq model feels super snappy

[ruby iris]

We dont have a bullpup sniper

Besides koshka

[jovial spruce]

Koshkas animations throw my aim off

[ruby iris]

Fuck you devs

[midnight snow]

What region do you all play in?

[ruby iris]

Gimme back my svu

[ruby iris]

Vietnam

[midnight snow]

So South Asia

[ruby iris]

We had a scrapped model of the dragunov svu

[ruby iris]

No, vietnam is it's own thing

[midnight snow]

Ooo

[ruby iris]

Cuz censorship

Communism

[midnight snow]

😂

[jovial spruce]

I love the draganov so much

[midnight snow]

Amazing against snipers

[worthy grail]

Strike Foregrip is a cardinal sin

[worthy grail]

Why is it specially good?

[midnight snow]

[worthy grail]

Vietnam is Southeast Asia bruh

[midnight snow]

The hit flinch it gives the enemy

[midnight snow]

Yea I said the same thing

[worthy grail]

But the scope 👎

[midnight snow]

Just put one on

[worthy grail]

If the enemy gets hit flinch then it means you didn't kill him in 1 shot

[midnight snow]

I use it with 3x

[worthy grail]

Hence the enemy sniper wins

[worthy grail]

Then it's not really worth it

[midnight snow]

You can depends on were you aim

[jovial spruce]

Man if you put a scope on a sniper rifle you're doing it wrong

[worthy grail]

But the less flinch is nice though

[worthy grail]

The Koshka has a horrible horrible base scope

[midnight snow]

The iron is just bad

[worthy grail]

Not that much of a sin to put it on it

[worthy grail]

How is Zealot good

It is literally a pay to lose weapon

[midnight snow]

What rank are you’ll on?

[worthy grail]

You talking to me?

Master III

[jovial spruce]

It's presumably better than advanced artillery

[midnight snow]

Everyone

[jovial spruce]

But I disagree

[worthy grail]

AA is better

[midnight snow]

I am master 1

[jovial spruce]

Master I

[worthy grail]

As I said Zealot is literally pay to lose

If AA is then it's slight

As I have watched videos of people using it

And the scope is either identical or oh so slightly worse

[jovial spruce]

I've used the zealot a bunch of time

And it's not good

Maybe cause I don't use the dlq but still

[midnight snow]

I think I might be the only one on this server that uses a crocdite

[worthy grail]

crocdite?

[midnight snow]

Yea😅

[jovial spruce]

Cordite?

[midnight snow]

Yea that

[worthy grail]

PDW is just a better Cordite basically

But people have preferences so you do you

[midnight snow]

I cordite for the bigger mag

[jovial spruce]

Ksp is actually underrated

[worthy grail]

Fails at the other stats

PDW having a 50 mag is good enough

[jovial spruce]

It can three shot someone in close range

[worthy grail]

PKM has a 200 mag while Holger has a 100 mag

[worthy grail]

So can the Chicom

So can the Pharo

[midnight snow]

I just like the feel of the cordite

[jovial spruce]

Idk it just feels nice

[midnight snow]

[worthy grail]

Either you have really good aim(and skill overall) or your opponents suck

[jovial spruce]

I beat some mythic skinned dude with the default ksp

Without any attachments

[worthy grail]

Mythic skins mean nothing

[midnight snow]

Same but with cordite

[jovial spruce]

Probably a mixture of both

[midnight snow]

What’s a ksp?

[worthy grail]

??

[jovial spruce]

It's a burst smg

[worthy grail]

Oh
It's a SMG called 'KSP 45'

[midnight snow]

Sounds interesting

[jovial spruce]

I also got gold on the agr and it's horrible

[worthy grail]

I second that

[jovial spruce]

It gets better if you use the high damage mag but still

It sucks really bad

[midnight snow]

I only have gold on cordite and locus

[worthy grail]

I guess you touch grass then

[midnight snow]

More like rubber mats and concrete I play badminton

[worthy grail]

Nice

[midnight snow]

Only started last season

[worthy grail]

Oh I see

That makes a ton more sense then

[midnight snow]

Kinda getting good tbh

[worthy grail]

How many fingers do you use

[bright dragon]

Does the as val become good now with buff?

[midnight snow]

3

[jovial spruce]

Yes

[worthy grail]

No

[bright dragon]

What’s the best build for it?

[worthy grail]

Which version of the AS VAL?

[bright dragon]

Full auto

[worthy grail]

The automatic?
Buff barely affected anything

[jovial spruce]

Nah

[worthy grail]

No it's still mid af

[jovial spruce]

Semi auto is where it's at

[worthy grail]

Yes

[midnight snow]

What are ya’lls thoughts on the icar?

[worthy grail]

Semi auto VAL is a faster sks

[worthy grail]

Nice secondary but I prefer Deagle personally

Since aim assist damage and range

[midnight snow]

What?

[jovial spruce]

I prefer the mw11

[worthy grail]

Especially effective if the enemy is low

[midnight snow]

No the AR

[worthy grail]

1 tap and die

[jovial spruce]

Oh

[worthy grail]

That's the ICR not icar...

[midnight snow]

I can’t remember the name

[midnight snow]

Ooo

[narrow glen]

@midnight snow, 14 Server Rank

[worthy grail]

ICR mid

Irrelevant

[midnight snow]

I use it often it’s kinda good

[jovial spruce]

Icr is mid

[worthy grail]

No

I mean

[jovial spruce]

Waaay better things you can use

[worthy grail]

If you do well with it and you get lots of kills

[midnight snow]

Can we agree the BK57 is not good

[worthy grail]

And you like how it feels then sure use it

But objectively it's not good

[worthy grail]

Mid

[midnight snow]

My friends trying to convince me it’s the “new meta”

[worthy grail]

They're braindead

Ask them what makes it so good

[midnight snow]

I Think so

[trim fern]

Wassup

[jovial spruce]

It's not bad

[midnight snow]

The prices of everything

[jovial spruce]

It's just not good

[trim fern]

Exactly , but we still pushing tho

[midnight snow]

Def

[worthy grail]

??

[midnight snow]

Irl

[jovial spruce]

Inflation, ya know?

[midnight snow]

But the temps are down

And I am freezing

TF did everyone go?

[jovial spruce]

We're still here

Atleast I am

[midnight snow]

How are the temps in North America?

[worthy grail]

Why are yall talking about this in this chat

[midnight snow]

Good question

[rich arch]

Prices, taxes and inflation increasing

Madness increasing

Only temperatures decreasing

[midnight snow]

Haha yes

[bright dragon]

Has anyone else got to use the groza yet and have a good build? Is the gun any good?

[wary tulip]

It's actually decent

[austere latch]

Does anyone have an Grau loadout?

[bright dragon]

What has been the build?

[worthy grail]

Red dot or no

Slower or faster

[wary tulip]

If you have problems with the iron sight use an rds instead of grip

[frigid sand]

Anyone got outlaw build?

[upper osprey]

Try xpr

[wide ore]

Use Grandmaster recommended attachments

[wide ore]

Try arctic 50 and svd

[frigid sand]

I wanna have a good attachment cause i got outlaw high noon 2nd draw lol

[narrow glen]

@frigid sand, 6 Server Rank

[minor flare]

Svd is unusable anymore because of post nerf

[upper osprey]

Ermmm

Worst snipers in this version

[upper osprey]

just use all attachments that decrease dks time

Don't use laser use mag

[frigid sand]

Aight

[wide ore]

Nah
SVD may be the worst but arctic 50 is much better

[wide ore]

Wow congratulations bro

[wide ore]

Mhm I don't think so

By the way, does anyone use RUS 97U?

[frigid sand]

Thanks, my first legendary xD

[wide ore]

I don't have even one legendary 😂

[minor flare]

But it has lowest damage range

[wide ore]

True

@frigid sand Do you use RUS?

That smg

[frigid sand]

Not really

[wide ore]

Wait I'll share my loadout

Use it

It's good for short and mid range

[narrow glen]

@wide ore, 10 Server Rank

[frigid sand]

I use PDW, QQ9, FENNEC, OTS9, i think this 4 smg is my main i would use it but dunno attachment

[frigid sand]

Aight bet

[wide ore]

Gimme the attachments for pwd

[minor flare]

Xpr 50 is also aggro sniper cause everybody using it

[frigid sand]

Just br tho

I dont use it on mp

[rich arch]

@frigid sand

[frigid sand]

Yes?

[rich arch]

Sorry I wanted to ping someone else ..

[frigid sand]

Ok

Lol

[rich arch]

[wide ore]

@frigid sand See your dm

[rich arch]

Me?

[wide ore]

Yours too

[frigid sand]

I dont see anything

[wide ore]

@frigid sand You have to add me

[frigid sand]

Done

[rich arch]

@frigid sand You have to add him

[rich arch]

Qns about the drh, should I use 38 mag or the 30 OTM mag?

[tired grove]

30 OTM Mag

[rich arch]

Ok thanks

[wide ore]

Not yet

It says cannot send messages to the user

@frigid sand
See gunsmith builds

[frigid sand]

Add me

[upper osprey]

Still not good

Not Powerful enough

[upper osprey]

25otm

Cuz no penalty on it

[unreal gale]

We kinda got smoked but hey I nuked :D

[rich arch]

A nuke is a nuke

How do i post pics, ss?

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 6 Server Rank

[rich arch]

25 rd otm mag

[rich arch]

Noice

Ive just gotten a 10 killstreak so far but ive only played like 3 hp matches

How's this?

That mag is just gonna kill your ads speed when it needs to be used to rush

Otherwise its good