codm-gunsmith-help

[keen gazelle]

then the fennec, youll see how little the fennec has it lol

just naming another smg

[viscid belfry]

ah

i never use rds

@keen gazelle u have an cordite build?

[keen gazelle]

like my personal build? cause no lol

idek the base build

[austere igloo]

Gks has a blueprint with a red dot?

[keen gazelle]

no im just saying use it with a red dot

then the fennec and see the difference

[tawny isle]

i got you bro: mono sup, ext light barrel, light stock, 80 rnd mag, tac laser

you can switch light barrel to a gran grip

[undone sandal]

what

id swap laser to gran

[ruby iris]

I'd run strike stock
Shit strafe, yes, but i aint dealing with 1.2 flinch

[tawny isle]

for snd sure

[ruby iris]

And weird initial recoil

[tawny isle]

sure, im not expert at cordite so like yeah

@viscid belfry

[undone sandal]

honestly

[tawny isle]

take note

[ruby iris]

?

[undone sandal]

real shit

[ruby iris]

[undone sandal]

cordite flinch is horrible

running toughness is like essential to use cordite

[ruby iris]

Then you still have the goofy ahh recoil

I'd run strike stock + toughness

[latent perch]

Does anybody have a good icr build

[tawny isle]

integral sup, no stock, gran grip, tac sup and any mag except for macro

[latent perch]

Thanks

[rich arch]

@shadow briar

[shadow briar]

no suppressor

unusable for me

[rich arch]

Swap the grip tape then

[shadow briar]

would have to

[rich arch]

Or mag I just like the ads speed of the reduced size

[rich arch]

Well if you like the switchblade this could be pretty good

Ironsights are so clean

Im more or less using it as an alternative to sx9 and cx9 bc I dont like their sights

[shadow briar]

i don’t like sx9 much tbh, it’s just basically the same gun as mp5 with sights i don’t like as much

[rich arch]

Thats fair, this has similar stats to the mp5 just with faster ads ig
And more aim shake not recoil per say

[tawny walrus]

Why not?

[maiden ocean]

Not the grip, switch tac laser with owc supp

@shadow briar

Oh wait, even better would be to switch mag with owc supp

Why would you even have such a small mag on a fast smg?

[rich arch]

Ads speed

I said the mag can be switched too

But also again its an smg theres no reason not to use a tac laser

[maiden ocean]

It already has so much ads, you can use different stuff

[rich arch]

I said why right below the comment

[maiden ocean]

And just don't use the mag, let it be default one

[rich arch]

Works fine for me

I use it in very close range typically

[tawny walrus]

It’s a passive build. Marksman barrel isn’t a way after its nerf.

[rich arch]

Just use gran grip tape

[vale lichen]

[tawny walrus]

It has already high BSA.

[rich arch]

Ranger foregrip slows it down immensely when the recoil is already low

[vale lichen]

Tf

[rich arch]

And the recoil is already low

[vale lichen]

Do ppl even use ppsh?

[rich arch]

Nah its highly underrated

[vale lichen]

Makes sense

[rich arch]

It used to just have awful recoil but thats fixed for the most part now

No random horizontal spikes

Wouldnt have been able to kill past the first two rows of targets pre buff

[vale lichen]

Reminds me of sx9

[rich arch]

Thats what ive said

For some reason I can’t really use the sx9 so im finding this great

Maybe its the sights 🤷‍♂️

[ruby iris]

Shit has main ar mobility with smg range

Why ppl dont use it

And seizure inducing recoil

[rich arch]

Its better now, if you can’t handle it thats a skill issue

[ruby iris]

Still doesnt make it worth using over pdw

Why pick the harder option when the easier option does the same stuff

And sometimes even better

[rich arch]

Never said its better than the pdw

[lost relic]

oh Rice is alive

[ruby iris]

Ye, that's why noone's using it

[rich arch]

Ig

[ruby iris]

It's not underrated, it's just an inferior version of an existing gun

[strong monolith]

For a gun to actually be underrated, it needs to be either one of the 2

1. It is incredibly strong but few players have realised its effectiveness (E.g. AS VAL FMJ)
2. There is some kind of reason to use it over existing options (E.g. Razorback, BY15)

[rich arch]

Its very strong and people just dont know it. Its not top of the chain but its easily a tier

[rich arch]

Just an alt to the switchblade tbh, and as someone who dislikes the switchblade it works amazingly

[strong monolith]

When it comes to the 1st one, I am referring to stuff like a sleeper meta

PPSh isn't exactly that

[lost relic]

@ricey bren mkII build suggestion?

[cunning rapids]

@ruby iris

[ruby iris]

[lost relic]

lol thanks

[rich arch]

Have you tried it since the buff

[cunning rapids]

welcome mate

[ruby iris]

We have a bren?

[lost relic]

bruen

fuck ill jsut google it

[strong monolith]

Yes, I try every gun
There is virtually no reason to use it over the other top SMGs

[lost relic]

thanks a ton dude 👍

[rich arch]

Ik im not saying to use it over them

[cunning rapids]

Grinding plat/Damascus?

[rich arch]

Its an excellent alternative to the switchblade

[ruby iris]

Has half the strafe speed

[lost relic]

gotta refresh lmg plat, also just like lmgs in general
when'd you become a mod?

[rich arch]

But better sights and way bigger mag, actually twice the capacity

[cunning rapids]

8/26/23

been a mod for a couple of months

[ruby iris]

If i wanted mag, i'd play bizon, and they have the same irons as rus for me anyways

Since i dont download models

[rich arch]

Bizon is different

[rich arch]

🗿

[lost relic]

it's sure been a minute, hope its fun

[ruby iris]

Same concept, spray and pray

[rich arch]

Okay well for most the sights are nice

Smgs arent really spray and pray thats lmgs lol

Unless you’re seriously trying to take a long range fight with an smg 💀

[ruby iris]

You just hold the trigger, walk out and the enemy dies

[rich arch]

No one with a brain does that

[ruby iris]

Same shit

[cunning rapids]

yeah

[ruby iris]

Everyone does that

Prefire the shit out of your enemies

[rich arch]

No

[ruby iris]

Every time a new gun with large mag cap comes out

[rich arch]

And smg is to kill very quickly and to dominate close range and tight maps

[ruby iris]

You can prefire close range

[rich arch]

Yes and with most smgs thatll murder your mag

A perk of the ppsh is that it can do that and have plenty of bullets left

[ruby iris]

No?

It's like

3-4 extra bullets

[rich arch]

Depends on fire rate tbf

[ruby iris]

It's 3-4 bullets at fennec's rpm

Doubt it would murder your mag at standard smg rpm

[rich arch]

Id use that few bullets with the lk or smth maybe 💀

[north rune]

Pre-firing is good because of desync

In your enemy's pov, he can't even see you when you're pre-firing

[rich arch]

Rarely happens for me 🗿

[ruby iris]

Anyways, noone's gonna use ppsh cuz that thing is above average at the very best

[rich arch]

A tier 🤷‍♂️

[ruby iris]

B+

[rich arch]

Nah you just need to learn its recoil

[ruby iris]

Why would i, when stuff like pdw offers better performance and has better recoil

[rich arch]

Irrelevant to what I meant

[ruby iris]

Even when you take recoil out of the equation, ppsh still isnt good

[rich arch]

Its ttk reminds me a lot of the switchblade but ok 💀

And since I dont like its sights I use the ppsh

[ruby iris]

You still have bad bsa, slow mobility and questionable attachments balancing

🚮

[rich arch]

Works well for like 0-30m

Not bad for an smg at all, pdw is better but I like to switch guns now and then

[keen gazelle]

it’s literally an easy kill why wouldnt you, @ruby iris am i looking at this wrong?

[ruby iris]

If you wanna use ppsh, then go ahead, but dont come at me with the underrated argument

This is like the billionth time someone said x gun is underrated

[rich arch]

Im just right lol i havent seen in it ranked at all for seasons, it may not be the best but its viable

[keen gazelle]

but the amax tho

[rich arch]

A lot are

[ruby iris]

A lot are worse versions of the meta stuff

[rich arch]

Things dont have to be S tier to be good

[keen gazelle]

i think youre confusing underrated, like the pharo isnt underrated

[rich arch]

Pharo is dogwater

[rich arch]

Yes bc underrated doesnt mean better than meta

[ruby iris]

It needs to be at least on par with meta, and have a reason to use it over meta

Like fmj val

[rich arch]

Thats called meta

💀

[keen gazelle]

now how many people are you seeing use the fucking val

[ruby iris]

Let alone fmj val

[rich arch]

Everyone uses sks instead

As an ar its outclassed and as a marksman it has less capacity so most people would switch

[keen gazelle]

making the semi val underrated

[rich arch]

Yep ik

But a weapon doesnt have to be meta to be underrated

[keen gazelle]

thats literally what it MEANS WHAT😭😭

it needs to be on par with meta

[rich arch]

Underrated simply means that the weapon is a lot better than most people think

It doesn’t mean that its secretly a meta weapon per say—it includes that but is not exclusive to that

[ruby iris]

But it has the benefit of almost smg tier mobility
That shit got banned in comps the moment it got buffed

Now that's underrated

[rich arch]

Yup

Thats very underrated and top of underrated guns

[umbral obsidian]

Hey Ricey question for the krig what is better task force barrel or marksmen or the 6.1 reinforced heavy

[undone sandal]

taskforce

krig works best as a flex ar, marksman is better for main ar playstyle

[ruby iris]

Taskforce

[rich arch]

Tbh why people not considering fmj Val meta

Everyone is talking about marksman but noone actually gives appreciation to the markswoman. Behind every successful marksmen there are always supportive markswomen

SKS got like 1.7m/s ads movement speed when stacking hit flinch reduction attachment
Val does not need to stack hit flinch

[rich arch]

Lol

Fmj Val and m67 AMAX actually fits markswomen role

The combination of 2.7m/s movement speed when aim down sight with 0.6 hit flinch is bs

Our SKS can't do it without give up 0.6 hit flinch stack

[rich arch]

Now with the recent buff, shouldn't the Asval FMJ be a better deal?

Less flinch and more mobility than the sks

[rich arch]

Lol

[rich arch]

Unfortunately yes
SKS really don't have any advantage besides more secure 2 stk even hitting lower torso and max 0.2 flinch when stacking attachments

Besides SKS got significant more vertical recoil compare to val

Hmmm I see

Since most MP combat range goes up to 30, SKS's 50m first range is unnecessary

Val goes to 48

That's more than enough

Yeahh

[tired grove]

There is no markswomen role

[strong monolith]

Well yes
There is a reason it got banned in comp before it got to see play

[rich arch]

[strong monolith]

And the fact that its range and mobility are getting slightly buffed is just adding fuel to the flame

Its actually a good thing that it got banned cause not many ppl know about it

VAL is pretty much the most busted weapon on paper

[willow merlin]

every weapon is busted.

just on different levels

[strong monolith]

And VAL is like on Valhalla level of busted

[willow merlin]

pretty much

but at this point were discussing which guns easier

not which guns are better

0

[strong monolith]

Yeah VAL is not the easiest gun to use

If you suck with semi autos in general, you will suck with this

Especially so since this thing strafes like an SMG

[rich arch]

I thought only SKS was banned. That's crazy. Imagine a bullet velocity buff

[rich arch]

👀

[strong monolith]

Don't
You
DARE

[rich arch]

Lmaooo

Time to use Asval then

Didn't know it was so good lol

And I kinda main SKS

[rich arch]

What about in BR? How does it perform there?

Both FMJ and default mags

[strong monolith]

This right here says it best

[strong monolith]

Not very good unfortunately

[rich arch]

Ahhh

[rich arch]

I'm saving this omg

Can wallbang....

Wtf I didn't know

[strong monolith]

The reason M67 AMAX does not get the same attention is because that one is basically a diet SKS

VAL is just built diff

[rich arch]

The only thing I've noticed that made me changing that gun from the main loadouts, honestly, it was the fact that in some longer range engagements I was getting hitmarkers. For example in Tunisia map

[rich arch]

Ohhh

[strong monolith]

Yeah the VAL cannot 2 tap beyond 42m (assuming optimal build)
But considering that you won't be shooting that far and that its still super accurate, its barely a downside

[rich arch]

That's great then
I'll try it again today

[rich arch]

I was using that build, should I keep it or adjust it?

[strong monolith]

Use skeleton stock instead

[rich arch]

I saw someone using a different barrel

Alright 👍🏻

Time for some Asval trolling today 🔥

[rich arch]

Markswomen rights are human rights

[tired grove]

Wth

[rich arch]

Just messing around

With my goofy humor 💀

[timber cobalt]

Yo guys can i have for the ak47 Halloween pumpkin gunsmith

[rich arch]

Tac Sup/ranger
No stock
Granulated
Tac laser
Extended mag

[ocean narwhal]

id remove gran and use both tac and ranger

bsa is good anyways

[rich arch]

Good build

Though combat stock is slightly faster ads speed with less penalties

[rich arch]

i think thats the best build, though with a marksman it may be best to use a suppressor

[calm mango]

Cause range increase?

[rich arch]

also does the sport barrel have any penalty? i might be thinking of the 30-30 ammo

[rich arch]

for silencing

you can choose the -20% range or -5% ads speed

since with a marksman you might wanna be stealthy a bit

[calm mango]

This?

[rich arch]

tactical suppressor or i think light suppressor

mono will slow you down a lot

[calm mango]

I think tactical is better

[rich arch]

probably, otherwise should be good

[ocean narwhal]

change laser for sport barrel

[rich arch]

oh right forgot it only has tiny advantages for marksmans/snipers

def swap for sport barrel

[calm mango]

I did

Thx

[rich arch]

np 🫡 and gn imma sleep

[eternal idol]

Grau with rds

[austere igloo]

I don’t need rds on grau

[ruby iris]

I agree

Grau with rds

[austere igloo]

Grau nexus barrel irons are good enough

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

You must be clinically blind to need an rds on grau

[ruby iris]

Grau with rds

[austere igloo]

No

[ruby iris]

Grau with rds

[austere igloo]

I have never used rds on grau & I never shall

[ruby iris]

Grau with rds

[austere igloo]

Who can resist these juicy-ass irons

[ruby iris]

Grau with rds

[austere igloo]

Repeating it over & over isn’t gonna change my mind

[ruby iris]

Grau with rds

[austere igloo]

Nor will it change the minds of the millions of other people playing this game

[ruby iris]

Grau with rds

[austere igloo]

Say that all u want, you’re not achieving anything

You can bluff others but not yourself

[ruby iris]

Grau with rds

Grau with rds

@undone sandal

Grau with rds

[vale lichen]

Fun gun

There are better alt

[undone sandal]

grau with rds honestly

[ruby iris]

@austere igloo

Grau with rds

[desert python]

Bro how do you change that name

[rich arch]

Do yall have 2020 golden ak

[desert python]

I started playing this year so no

[ocean narwhal]

what name

[vale lichen]

Haramii

[ocean narwhal]

garena when grau mythic comes out: rds for better visibility!

[desert python]

He named his grau true test

[vale lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-cute-cat-gif-15060173

Wrong channel

[ocean narwhal]

get the gun to master

then u can change its name once

[desert python]

I know that method but he is not even master at that gun and still he renamed it

[desert python]

Take a look at this

[ocean narwhal]

not sure which part of the image shows that he renamed the gun

oh i see it now

thats not rename

thats the name for the class

press save and u can change the name for the gunsmith

[desert python]

Thanks 👍

[desert python]

Thank you

[ocean narwhal]

✅

[austere igloo]

Change what name?

[knotty cobalt]

What’s the meta rn?

[ocean narwhal]

grau hvk ffar lk24 sx9 cx9 ul736 sks pdw

[vale lichen]

Ffar, ul736,pdw not meta

[ocean narwhal]

wrong

[vale lichen]

Not wrong

Pdw was Meta previous season and got nerfed this season

Ffar and ul is not meta

Kilo is still meta

M-13 is meta on BR

[undone sandal]

id disagree with some of those

[knotty cobalt]

I trust you more

fr

[ocean narwhal]

only the recoil and its still very good

[ocean narwhal]

this is just straight up incorrect

kilo is still good yeah

[vale lichen]

No can u explain why do you think ffar and ul is meta?

[ocean narwhal]

its not that i think they are meta

they are objectively the best guns in class by stats

[vale lichen]

Ahh?

No, oden is the better alt for ul and there are other good alt for ffar

[ocean narwhal]

ul has insane potentials and bsa which makes it very good for main ar position

3 tap with 97ms interval

ffar has low punishment and competitive ttk with 4stk potential with just 1 headshot

best close-mid range flex ar

grau is similar but for mid-long range

[vale lichen]

Ffar and ul is ur fav gun lol

[ocean narwhal]

nope

i explained why they are meta and ur just pulling that "ur fav gun"

[undone sandal]

oden has bv

[ocean narwhal]

also pdw recoil is fairly easy

[undone sandal]

ul does not

ul has great 4 tap range, with 3stk potential

ul has better handling compared to oden
oden has easy recoil but not as easy as ul

[ocean narwhal]

3stk potential to 41.6m with ext barrel

[undone sandal]

oden is really punishing compared to ul

2 tap isnt even consistent and ur consistently going to 3 tap

[vale lichen]

They are not meta lol

Ffar is only good in close and mid range

Use qq9 then

It covers that part with less punishment

Kilo is an all rounder

[ocean narwhal]

kilo is main ar

[vale lichen]

Ffar is also a main ar

[ocean narwhal]

i dont think u know what punishment is

[ocean narwhal]

[vale lichen]

Everyone knows the red color

[ocean narwhal]

do u know what main ar is

[vale lichen]

[ocean narwhal]

dumb asf

[vale lichen]

Ys

[ocean narwhal]

explain then

what is main ar

ffar is the furthest thing from main ar btw

[vale lichen]

No if its further away from main ar what should i call bizon?

And explain the punishment and range?

Main AR guy

[ocean narwhal]

yeah u dont know what it is

average degenerate

[vale lichen]

Lol

Bro left?

[ocean narwhal]

cant be bothered to explain to a wall

read up what i said if u want further enlightenment

not gonna waste my time

[vale lichen]

Doesn't have the time to search for ttk graph for a wall

[teal olive]

How can I equip crash main to my sniper someone should put me true

[ruby iris]

Ffar is flex ar

[ocean narwhal]

dont even start it

not worth it

[vale lichen]

[ruby iris]

M4

[ocean narwhal]

cool skin

[vale lichen]

Says the who said ul and ffar is Meta

[ruby iris]

[ocean narwhal]

[ruby iris]

Ul and ffar is meta

[vale lichen]

No

[ruby iris]

Yes

[dusty heart]

Noobs meta

[ocean narwhal]

bro i literally explained and he gives no fucks

[vale lichen]

Bruhh how

[unique schooner]

The stats guy

[vale lichen]

Oden perform better an ul and how ffar is meta?

[umbral obsidian]

Furina👍👍

[ocean narwhal]

💀💀

[ruby iris]

Ffar is the best flexible ar
Ul has stupid 3/4 tap range and doesnt shit on your mobility like pkm

[ocean narwhal]

tych already explained why oden isnt meta

do u not read what people say

[unique schooner]

Where did that convo start

[vale lichen]

I didn't said oden is meta

I said it perform better than ul

[ruby iris]

It doesnt

[ocean narwhal]

u implied it

and oden doesnt perform better at all

[vale lichen]

Bruh so m-13 is also meta?

[ocean narwhal]

just look

[ruby iris]

No

[ocean narwhal]

no

we are talking mp btw

[vale lichen]

[ruby iris]

M13 is a main ar

Has to compete with lk

And we know how braindead lk is

[ocean narwhal]

if u want to use m13 as flex ar ffar is right there

[vale lichen]

Wait i am gonna check stats

[ocean narwhal]

literally a better m13 for flex ar

[unique schooner]

Ngl

[ruby iris]

Gl

[ocean narwhal]

oh ur going it now?

[unique schooner]

How do you not think a gun is meta when the dude who actually makes stat charts with all the available information is telling you it is

[ruby iris]

[unique schooner]

Like isnt tych from stats on duty🤨

[ruby iris]

Yes

[ocean narwhal]

yeah but isleep makes the charts i think

[unique schooner]

Then i dont get it

[ocean narwhal]

or maybe for br only

[ruby iris]

Tych makes the graphics iirc

[vale lichen]

Not for u i still think oden is better than ul

[ocean narwhal]

did u read what tych said

[ruby iris]

[ocean narwhal]

im genuinely concerned

[unique schooner]

Then its just your "fav/preferred" gun

[vale lichen]

Doesn't feel like that

[ocean narwhal]

^

[ruby iris]

Oden shoots slower, and has bullet velocity

[ocean narwhal]

"feel good" doesnt mean its better

[ruby iris]

Oden is more comparable to sks

Like a worse sks, but can full auto

[ocean narwhal]

oden 2 tap isnt even consistent and u will be 3 tapping

[ruby iris]

Sp mow

[vale lichen]

Yes i am not rushing with high ads gun anyway

Passive is the only way

[ocean narwhal]

that is the purpose of main ar?????

[vale lichen]

No

[ocean narwhal]

kms

[ruby iris]

And the only gun that can compete with lk at playing passive is ul

[fossil hamlet]

What is the worst gun

[ocean narwhal]

hvk no lc

[ruby iris]

Main ars = passive long range ars made for holding angles and headglitches

[vale lichen]

Ul is 4 tap though

[ruby iris]

Burst striker

[ruby iris]

3, check multipliers

[ocean narwhal]

4 tap to 58.5m, 3 tap potential to 41.6m

all u need is stomach and above shots

which is very achievable at main ar range

[ocean narwhal]

or chest forgot

[vale lichen]

Ohh

[ruby iris]

Chest up

Locus hitbox basically

[ocean narwhal]

or 1 headshot iirc

[vale lichen]

1.2 to 1.4

[ocean narwhal]

not the literal multis

the damage and shots to kill is the important ones

chest and arms have 1.2 which allows a 3 stk

[vale lichen]

Ohh oden's body damage is less than ul

[ocean narwhal]

oden can 2tap but not consistent

also shoots slower

and has bv which sucks at range

[vale lichen]

[ocean narwhal]

im literally repeating what has been said before

[undone sandal]

3 stk potential
very nice if u can get it but its consistent 4

[vale lichen]

I didn't understand it but the stats says ul is better

[forest palm]

I think the bruen mk9 is better than the ul736, except for the range

[vale lichen]

@ocean narwhal srry for arguing

[ocean narwhal]

people wont flame u for asking just ask bro

[ruby iris]

The main reason you run ul is for range

[ocean narwhal]

i got triggered at ur "my way or the highway"

[ruby iris]

[undone sandal]

i make the vid gfx
sleep makes br ttk charts

[ocean narwhal]

surprised it didnt get nerfed yet

[unique schooner]

But you still have all access to every stat available yes?

[vale lichen]

Still doesn't understand how it is meta though not arguing now

[ocean narwhal]

range is just dumb

[undone sandal]

honestly true

[forest palm]

Oh

[undone sandal]

not every but most

[forest palm]

Cuz i checked the stats for both guns, and mk9 was just better

[ruby iris]

Cuz it's good

[vale lichen]

Gib attachments

Time for shipment

[ocean narwhal]

0-41.6m
consistent 291ms ttk
194ms ttk potential (3stk)

41.6-58.5m
consistent 388ms ttk (4stk, 1 chest/arms)
291ms ttk potential

[forest palm]

Insane

[ruby iris]

Sufficient bsa, nutty ttk potential, decent suboptimal, long spray time, can wallbang if needed, have access to full body disable, ...
Need i say more?

[ocean narwhal]

also bsa is very good

[vale lichen]

No

[ruby iris]

Tac supp
Ext barrel
Steady stock
60r mag
Disable

[vale lichen]

Kk

[forest palm]

Check my mk9 build in #codm-gunsmith-builds

[ocean narwhal]

punishment = increase in ttk for every bullet missed

[narrow glen]

@ocean narwhal, 30 Server Rank

[ocean narwhal]

basically fire interval

[undone sandal]

honestly mk9 is weird

its a good gun imo

but mags are lacking

[ocean narwhal]

i like it

the reserve ammo tho

[ruby iris]

I love it for br

[ocean narwhal]

is it competitive against s36

[undone sandal]

60/120
100/100
200/200 these reserves are not good

[tawny walrus]

Yeah.

[ocean narwhal]

full ammo ✅

[undone sandal]

its a good ar for br

[ruby iris]

Against consistent ttk, yes
Against potential ttk, no
But it has better bsa, bv, and recoil

[ocean narwhal]

noice ill try in tourney

giv build

[undone sandal]

yeah

[forest palm]

The main issue with mk9 fr

[ocean narwhal]

swap laser to disable?

[ruby iris]

Mag, long shot, vertical recoil

[ruby iris]

Viable, i just like fast, and extra bsa

[ocean narwhal]

ok

[undone sandal]

mk9 irons are horrible imo

like they're usable but its ass for range

[forest palm]

Fr

[ocean narwhal]

yeah

[undone sandal]

full ammo being one of the attachments u consider is wild

[ocean narwhal]

[undone sandal]

usually its fmj/disable

but full ammo cuz the base reserves are ass

[forest palm]

I would rather use vulture than full ammo

[ruby iris]

Yk the gun is bussin when uhh

[ocean narwhal]

cant give up qf

[undone sandal]

waste of a slot honestly

id rather toughness

[ruby iris]

I run toughness

[forest palm]

Dont need mono when we have the big barrel

[ocean narwhal]

im running cold blooded rn

[ruby iris]

It has really shit 4 tap range

[ocean narwhal]

stupid stealth choppers

[ruby iris]

Like really shit

15m base

[ocean narwhal]

bruh

[forest palm]

Bro just hit higher

[ruby iris]

[forest palm]

Shoot at chest 🗣️

[ocean narwhal]

15m and its a lmg

shame

[forest palm]

15m? Damn

[ocean narwhal]

it doesnt have chest multis

[forest palm]

What

[ocean narwhal]

still 5 tap second range

u need headshots

[forest palm]

Bruh i forgot to check the multiplier

[undone sandal]

honestly bruen isn't good for main ar

flex is more suited

[ruby iris]

Leg shots and chest shots deals the same dmg

[undone sandal]

but 60 reserves man

[forest palm]

Aint no way

[ruby iris]

Toughness

Why the fuck does the mag increases flinch?

[ocean narwhal]

to the untrained eye this is a troll build

[forest palm]

It has many small issues

[ocean narwhal]

wait what the fuck

[undone sandal]

because codm

[forest palm]

Bro less bullets- less weight- less gravitation pull- more flinch

[undone sandal]

i assume cuz its lighter

[unique schooner]

Less weight means mo flinch

[ruby iris]

[forest palm]

Yeah

[ruby iris]

Yes, but that's still an lmg

With 60 rounds of bullets

[forest palm]

-40 rounds give +28% ads
While +100 rounds give -3% ads

[unique schooner]

Just less weight

[forest palm]

Boy what the hell boy

[ocean narwhal]

bruh .96 flinch

[undone sandal]

it still doesn't make sense

[ruby iris]

If 60 increases flinch then 200 should decrease it

[forest palm]

Why not

[undone sandal]

cuz nostock is usually the one affecting flinch

not mags

or light barrels

[ocean narwhal]

but that would be logical

[undone sandal]

not even holger

[ruby iris]

[forest palm]

Bruh i grinded gold for mk9 just an hour ago

Im kinda regretting it all now

[undone sandal]

don't get me wrong

[ocean narwhal]

get diamond

[undone sandal]

its a good gun

but there are some aspects where bruen just lacks on

compared to other guns

[ruby iris]

Anyways

Lc on bizon should convert it into the vityaz

[forest palm]

What buffs does it need to be meta tho

[undone sandal]

just wait for it to get buff

[ruby iris]

[undone sandal]

reserve mags lol

[ocean narwhal]

if they buff chest and arms multi to 1.1 or 1.2 it would be good

[ruby iris]

Mainly mag

[ocean narwhal]

maybe broken idk

[forest palm]

Mags, then range, and finally flinch

[ruby iris]

Br

[forest palm]

Br?

[ocean narwhal]

oh hell no

[forest palm]

What in the battle royal

[ocean narwhal]

better s36?

[ruby iris]

Giving it chest and arms would create another s36

[forest palm]

Oh

[ocean narwhal]

LOL

[forest palm]

The old s36 right?

[ruby iris]

With all the benefits bruen has over the actual s36

[ruby iris]

Current s36
Most broken gun in br

[forest palm]

For real?

[ruby iris]

Similar ttk to oden, but shoots faster

[ocean narwhal]

yeah

[undone sandal]

yes

[forest palm]

I never heard of that

[undone sandal]

s36 best gun in br

[ocean narwhal]

its been the best full auto for a while

[forest palm]

Damn

[ruby iris]

And big mag, for spraying down vehicles

[undone sandal]

it has been for months

[forest palm]

I learned something new today

[ocean narwhal]

just dont shoot legs

[undone sandal]

literally being slept on

while br players still think “ak is meta”

[ocean narwhal]

fr

[undone sandal]

and “m4 is meta”

[forest palm]

I use krig in br tho

[ruby iris]

At least it's not kilo

[forest palm]

Ak feels mid now

[ocean narwhal]

it is mid

[forest palm]

It was good back in adrenaline ages

[ruby iris]

It might make a comeback, going up to average

Or slightly above average

[ocean narwhal]

is amax still the best ar

[ruby iris]

Cuz the headshot buff

[ruby iris]

M13

[forest palm]

Well i bought an ak skin for 20k credits

[ocean narwhal]

amax nerfed?

[ruby iris]

Nah, m13 buffed

[ocean narwhal]

oh

[vale lichen]

Same feeling like oden

[forest palm]

M13 buff?

[vale lichen]

Br

[undone sandal]

bruen 60mag honestly

ar in br

[ruby iris]

Better consistent ttk than amax, worse potentials, yes, but you have better bv, recoil, bsa and dpm

[undone sandal]

oh cool 15 min rank shield (i will only get 1 match shield)

[forest palm]

Just play tdm (hell)

[undone sandal]

meh

[ruby iris]

Basically bruen vs s36, but m13 actually overthrows amax at the consistent ttk department @ocean narwhal

[forest palm]

Amax was never meta

[ruby iris]

Ye, gran can be anything

[forest palm]

I wish it was

[ruby iris]

Amax was meta in br for like a year

[ocean narwhal]

melee master

[ruby iris]

Before the buffed s36

[forest palm]

Bruhhhh aint no way

[ocean narwhal]

strike foregrip

[ruby iris]

[forest palm]

Well i didnt play since 2020

[ocean narwhal]

[forest palm]

And came back last season

[ornate jackal]

I need lapa to be br meta

[ocean narwhal]

why does this exist in br

[ruby iris]

It was like s8 2022 iirc

[undone sandal]

sleep's m13 build was
heavy long, ranger fg, optic, tac laser, mag

[forest palm]

Damn

[ruby iris]

It kinda is, cuz anti vehicle barrel

[forest palm]

Sleep? I aint taking none of that?

[ornate jackal]

Alcatraz maybe?

[ruby iris]

Not as good as type 25, but still viable

[ocean narwhal]

u dont have the gun on respawn

[ornate jackal]

True

[ocean narwhal]

most useful attachment

[ruby iris]

@strong monolith , writer for stats on duty

[forest palm]

No i meant i dont sleep at all

[ruby iris]

Basically a codm nerd, he knows a lot of stuff

[forest palm]

Bruh

[ruby iris]

Especially br

[ruby iris]

@undone sandal was referring to him as sleep

[undone sandal]

sleep is like

hard carrying writers

[ornate jackal]

I remember when i almost did the full draw for justicar

Fun times

[ruby iris]

Sleep as in a guy here, not the sleeping activity

[forest palm]

I get it bruh

I was making a joke 😦

[ruby iris]

[tawny isle]

good morning

[forest palm]

Good nijgt

[strong monolith]

[undone sandal]

a real w

[tawny isle]

bro did not take it

[ruby iris]

Do you trust me?

[undone sandal]

sprint

[ruby iris]

Wee

[ornate jackal]

Does kirins cry have custom iron

[ruby iris]

Swift to rds if you dont want to sprint

[tawny isle]

i am not a pro at br builds but you really dont need a laser do you?

[ruby iris]

No

[tawny isle]

no ranked reward has ever had a custom sight

[ornate jackal]

Can u do one for compact bar i have zrg for vehicle damage

[undone sandal]

compact bar
5mw
red cell
ext mag
firm grip

iirc

[tawny isle]

who is hipfiring in br without sg?

[ruby iris]

Use reinforced barrel

Compact i dont like

Nukes range

It's good if you can get into ppl's face, but i'd rather not, cuz shotguns

[undone sandal]

im much more comfortable hipfiring at that range

than me relying on my aim with a sg

[ornate jackal]

Gotcha

[ocean narwhal]

everyone with smgs

hipfire is much better than mp

[ornate jackal]

I dont face a lot of smgs in br

[tawny isle]

then they die to sg’s like ricey said

[undone sandal]

most guns

[ornate jackal]

Mainly ars, snipers and launchers

[ocean narwhal]

cant really do much against shotguns when ur gun kills in almost a full second and that thing instantly kills u

[ornate jackal]

Just use nova gas against shotgun players gg

[undone sandal]

means u die as well

[ornate jackal]

A small price to pay

[ruby iris]

Accurate enough

To play counter strike

[tawny isle]

lmao

[ornate jackal]

I dont hipfire at all idk why

The only time i hipfire is in zombies or when using jak

[fringe gate]

areet anyone found decent ways of grinding camos?

[hollow panther]

Gotta learn to shotgun for br the one taps are odly satisfying

[tawny isle]

play ffa/dom/hp

those are your best friends

[dapper idol]

Who can help me to get to grand Master in Br I am gm 1

[night crown]

Can any1 say how to banned this stupid hackers in the codm

[vale lichen]

@ocean narwhal it does have better recoil than oden

But ffar didn't satisfy me

Ul is good

Ads somehow feel same though

Infinite 3tap

Or 4

Srry for arguing with u

[half fulcrum]

Anybody got a br build for as Val?

[tawny isle]

havent tried it yet

[ocean narwhal]

taskforce is good as well

its hard to adjust to tbh

[vale lichen]

Tbh its not about the build its about the sight

Base one is trash

[ocean narwhal]

getting diamond on it helps

[tawny isle]

youre trippin

[vale lichen]

I hate all round sights anyway

[tawny walrus]

I just don’t like FFAR itself. I liked on release, but after playing for a long time, I feel like I can’t shoot properly with it.

[ocean narwhal]

u can remove foregrip for sight

[vale lichen]

not a grinder only plays snd

[tawny walrus]

Like, something wrong with it, but I can’t understand what.

[vale lichen]

And clan stuffs

[tawny isle]

its fun to use every once in a while

[ocean narwhal]

yeah it feels veeeery off at first

[tawny isle]

i only use it for snd bc it feels like it runs out of ammo so fast

[ocean narwhal]

its almost like the gun doesnt want to hit the enemy

[tawny isle]

that too

[tawny walrus]

I’ll get diamond and won’t use it again.

[tawny isle]

diamon looks so good on it for the bp skin

[unique schooner]

diamond ffar?

[ocean narwhal]

if u cant adjust to the recoil just use grau

[tawny walrus]

It’s the only AR I don’t have diamond on.

[tawny walrus]

Nah, it looks bad.

[ocean narwhal]

the bp skin is ass

[tawny isle]

no its not wtf

[unique schooner]

what the bp one look like

we are on about the ffar right?

[tawny walrus]

Pieces of cloth are not covered with diamond.

Yes.

[unique schooner]

thats booty

pass

[tawny isle]

i find that nice tbh

[unique schooner]

looks better in plat

[tawny walrus]

I’m using the standard version with carbon camo.

[tawny isle]

i have the bathroom tile seasonal camo for it

looks clean

[tawny walrus]

I like bathroom one.

[tawny isle]

it is nice

[ocean narwhal]

bathroom tiles

[tawny isle]

probably one of the nicer unanimated ones

my fav is the green and gold one

[tawny walrus]

I need to get carbon camo for my AMAX.

[ocean narwhal]

im trying to get diamond on grau

[tawny isle]

just reach 100 tokens then you get to choose

[ocean narwhal]

cant see the archangel sights

its too thin

[tawny isle]

you better soon bc the mythic is coming out next szn

[tawny walrus]

cough cough

[ocean narwhal]

bruh

[tawny isle]

ok bro

[ocean narwhal]

thats a lot of camos

[tawny isle]

i need

[tawny walrus]

Is there going to be another tournament this weekend?

[ocean narwhal]

unlocked this today

[tawny isle]

beautiful

im tryna get dimond for it as well

[ocean narwhal]

beri noice

[cursive pollen]

This gun is crazy and really nice

[tawny isle]

i have the treachery skin from the same bp as the ffar

[tawny walrus]

I got diamond for SX9 ages ago, though I hate this weapon.

[ocean narwhal]

it beams like mad

[tawny isle]

in close range

[ocean narwhal]

bsa is 19 but idk why its so good at mid range as well

[cursive pollen]

One shot of this gun and zap

It kinda looks different

[tawny isle]

fennec feels better to use imo

better range and hitbox

[cursive pollen]

SX9 the first and the neo

[tawny walrus]

Because no bullet velocity.

Oh, wait…

[tawny isle]

yes it does?

[ocean narwhal]

sx9 doesnt have bv too

[tawny walrus]

CX-9 has.

[tawny isle]

that would be too good if it doesnt

[tawny walrus]

Just imagine we have: MX9, SX9 and CX9.

[ocean narwhal]

mk9

qq9

a lot of 9s

[tawny walrus]

Irony is in X9.

[tawny isle]

i ❤️ 9

[ocean narwhal]

im seeing more cx9s in ranked

[tawny walrus]

Seems it became more viable after the buff.

[ocean narwhal]

yeah

its practically a better fennec

[tawny walrus]

Too bad that I mastered it before the patch.

[tawny isle]

iron sights of cx9 are so bad

luckily i have the bp skin

[ocean narwhal]

bp skin is the goat

[tawny walrus]

;-;

[ocean narwhal]

better than lv0 mythic

[tawny isle]

w

[tawny walrus]

I’d like to use standard version with sleigh of hand animations, but it has bad iron sight.

[tawny isle]

the p2w sights on mythic look like a spazzier version of the qq9 mythic maxed out

[tawny walrus]

Mythic is already bad only because of annoying announcer voice.

[tawny isle]

it looks nice but yeahd

[cursive pollen]

This looks exactly like a scar

[tawny walrus]

Not even close.

[tawny isle]

bro is trippin

[cursive pollen]

Wait which is better

[narrow glen]

@cursive pollen, 7 Server Rank

[tawny isle]

between what

[cursive pollen]

Scar and CX9

[tawny isle]

cx9 by a mile

but scar is pretty viable

[ocean narwhal]

drh isnt meta but pretty good

[tawny walrus]

Imagine comparing two weapons of different classes.

With different purposes.

[cursive pollen]

I don't even know which

[tawny isle]

hes asking for it so...

[cursive pollen]

Bruh am kinda noob so that's why am asking

[tawny isle]

use drh then

its more noob friendly

[ocean narwhal]

grau is the best gun

[tawny isle]

or m13

[ocean narwhal]

m13 isnt meta

[tawny isle]

cbr as well

[tawny isle]

for noobs i mean

[cursive pollen]

What's a GRAU

[tawny isle]

m13 is good for noobs

[cursive pollen]

Or CBR

[tawny walrus]

Hope Grau will get nerfed after its mythic draw. So annoying.

[ocean narwhal]

fr

no skill high reward

[tawny walrus]

Indeed.

[tawny isle]

so many bots using it

[ocean narwhal]

no recoil good range high bv

[tawny walrus]

Pre buff Grau was nice.

[ocean narwhal]

big mag fast reload

has all the good shit

[cursive pollen]

I got a QQ9 is it good

[ocean narwhal]

yes

[tawny isle]

the grau can be turned into anything

[tawny isle]

meta

[tawny walrus]

Barrel gives 45% to range.

[rich arch]

What are good weapons for BR?
Other than oden, ak-47 and ak117

[ocean narwhal]

totally balanced

[ocean narwhal]

both aks are mid in br

[cursive pollen]

Mine is Shattered Peace

[tawny isle]

krig 6

[cursive pollen]

The one on the event

[ocean narwhal]

the best ARs in br is m13, followed by amax

[tawny walrus]

AMAX, LK24, S36, Bruen and etc.

[ocean narwhal]

best lmgs are s36 and bruen mk9

[rich arch]

Thankyouu

Can you give me amax build?

[tawny isle]

i was abt to put a mp build

[rich arch]

I'm already covered for mp

[cursive pollen]

What is the best gun for a newbie

[ocean narwhal]

grau

[tawny walrus]

I’m using this build (I tried tactical scope recently - it reduces ads speed for a bit, but reticle worth it).

[ocean narwhal]

a newborn can use it

[rich arch]

Oh, and one more thing
What would you say is the best marksman rifle?
Sks, as val or amax?

[cursive pollen]

How do I get it

[unique schooner]

Sks sweep

[tawny walrus]

For MP? I’d say SKS, but for mobility - VAL.

[unique schooner]

Val maybe

[ocean narwhal]

30 headshots with assault rifle

[rich arch]

Ok, and what about br?

[ocean narwhal]

go to ar and find grau

[cursive pollen]

Ok brb

[ocean narwhal]

it should tell u how to get it

[cursive pollen]

K

[tawny walrus]

Uhhh… it’s hard to say, because they’re not flexible for BR.

[rich arch]

I see

[tawny walrus]

SKS was meta long time ago, but got nerfed eventually.

[rich arch]

Okay, thank you very much

[ocean narwhal]

imagine

sks wild fire

[rich arch]

Imagine sks hip fire mod

[tawny walrus]

SKS with Oden fire rate.

[ocean narwhal]

ill never touch ranked

[rich arch]

Fr

[tawny walrus]

I wonder if SKS would be unbanned from all tournaments.

[rich arch]

Doubtful

Can someone give me as val marksman rifle build?

And ping me for the build, cause I'm out now

Please

[tawny walrus]

@rich arch

[keen gazelle]

why the granulated

[tawny walrus]

LOD build.

[keen gazelle]

weird, i cant imagine the bsa spreading That much to need gran

especially it being a semi auto

[tawny walrus]

Can be tactical laser.

[ocean narwhal]

nothing else to use so

[keen gazelle]

right ik you can change it but was just curious

[tawny walrus]

I used it on my second account in ranked and it was fine.

[keen gazelle]

they didnt wanna put soh? or something else lol

[tawny walrus]

Only perk or laser are useable.

This foregrip should get a buff to be honest.

[tawny isle]

just use sks

[ornate jackal]

Reload speed on asval isnt bad

[keen gazelle]

neither is the bsa for a semi

which is why i was curious as to why they would waste an attachment rather than buff something thats already good like ads time (tact laser) or soh

[ornate jackal]

Fair

I need a deagle build that isnt slow

[rich arch]

You’ll want a bit of extra range on it bc it sucks when it doesnt two tap, so this should be well rounded