codm-gunsmith-help

[austere igloo]

u butchered the gun

[river granite]

Wym

[austere igloo]

u ruined the gun

[river granite]

How

[austere igloo]

no range, no suppression, handling is awful & basically just about everything in that build reeks of someone who doesn't know how to build the gun optimally

the qq9 already has excellent mobility u don't need to buff it

[river granite]

So

You got a problem with it

[austere igloo]

This build is much more optimal

[austere igloo]

Yes, and you’re going to accept my criticism of your build whether you like it or not

[vestal rampart]

Tbf it is objectively ass, no offence

Most beginners think strike fg is a good idea don’t be ashamed

[austere igloo]

once the beginners realize that strike foregrip is actually dogwater they will ditch it (hopefully)

oh, and don't confuse strike foregrip with striker foregrip...those are 2 totally different attachments

[austere igloo]

striker foregrip benefits guns

[austere igloo]

that's not an improvement

[visual bloom]

where range

[river granite]

I’m not going for range

[vestal rampart]

Worthwhile learning to control recoil manually instead of wasting attachments on it that can be used for other things, like range and bsa for smg

[austere igloo]

Then you’re doing it wrong

If you’re not looking for range than qq9 shouldn’t be the smg u are using

Use fennec or mac or cx9 or even ots9

[austere igloo]

^

[strong monolith]

Ok so the thing with this build is that
It has some really good mobility and handling but there are some serious fundamental problems here

1. Poor BSA
2. Lack of range stack
3. No extended mag which is very much important on a gun of this fire rate
   I understand that its very tempting to stack speed on an SMG but the QQ9 is much better as a balanced SMG
   There are better SMGs for pure speed and CQC, CX9 being the main example

[austere igloo]

Basically what I told him earlier

Abt the poor bsa & no range stack

[strong monolith]

tbf this is a very common build to see beginner players use

[austere igloo]

& handling? Did u see the number on the bar stat of his build compared to mine?

[austere igloo]

…

[tawny walrus]

sigh

[austere igloo]

Whenver I start off with a new gun I look for the most optimal build & not go for attachments that enable me to have an easier time with it

[austere igloo]

Y’know what? I give up

I’m done trying to make sense to this guy

[strong monolith]

I mean 150ms ADS time and nearly 7m/s of sprint speed so this is purely a speed build with a complete disregard for all else

Which is also a common rookie mistake

[austere igloo]

Yes I learn things the hard way u wanna take the piss? Idc

[strong monolith]

That's how it should be done

[austere igloo]

There it is, the “purely speed build with complete disregard for everything else”

[austere igloo]

That’s the part that I’m not okay with

I don’t ‘disregard everything else’

[visual bloom]

this build is statistically better than yours

[austere igloo]

Don’t bother, he doesn’t care about stats, only what suits his playstyle

If he wishes to run an objectively inferior build that’s his problem, not yours

[river granite]

I’m a two finger player I don’t go crazy like you guys

[narrow glen]

@river granite, 8 Server Rank

[strong monolith]

Folks like him will need quite a bit of time to learn
So right now, we are about as useful as the warnings on a pack of cigarettes

[visual bloom]

I play with thumbs only

[vestal rampart]

Yh same

[austere igloo]

so do I

[austere igloo]

there is no excuse

[strong monolith]

Common beginner player mistakes:

• Stippled/Rubberized is good
• Turning every AR/LMG into an SMG
• Range stacking on snipers/marksmans
• "I spec everything into a single stat"
• "BSA doesn't matter, I can just control it"
• "Why do I need to move faster when I can just shoot them"
• "I don't need an extended mag, just hit your shots"
• "Who even cares about suppressors?"

[river granite]

I’m not a beginner

[austere igloo]

the last one

wait until they find out that when they "can just shoot them", they're already dead before they can even press the trigger button

[vestal rampart]

Damn I think I did every single one of those at some point

[austere igloo]

the "I spec everything into a single stat"...yea I do it for br

accuracy stat

[strong monolith]

Range and BSA mainly for the builds I use
A bit of recoil control as well

But ofc I don't wanna kill my gun's handling too hard

[austere igloo]

ofc

[strong monolith]

All of us have

[austere igloo]

Irrelevant to gunsmithing

& having a legendary gun doesn’t mean jack shit

[river granite]

What the fuck I’m just trying to show HUD

[austere igloo]

Looks like my old HUD

[maiden ocean]

I'm guilty of that second point till date

[river granite]

Cool

[austere igloo]

But I moved my scope button to the left side

[strong monolith]

Aye
If you do it for fun, all good
Just don't do it unironically

[austere igloo]

This is my hud

[river granite]

Cool

[austere igloo]

I know its a mess, don’t judge

[river granite]

I don’t judge

[austere igloo]

That’s me stuck in the middle area between 3 finger & 4 finger layout

[leaden pike]

Here’s another one
Who cares about sliding and movement just move and kill

[maiden ocean]

I do that because I absolutely despise the slow ads, I know it just makes it pointless as a lmg but I love that aspect

[austere igloo]

I do that sometimes

[leaden pike]

I never do that

[strong monolith]

• Every main AR player

[leaden pike]

Fr

[austere igloo]

I used to do that until I decided y’know what? If you’re gonna camp I will fight fire with fire

I just stoke the fire by becoming the bigger fire…to cancel out the ongoing fire

And thus…this was born

[maiden ocean]

TRUE, it becomes really annoying at some point given how accurate some lmgs are and I also hate that thing but we can't really do anything about that

I'm looking at you, Nuketown campers

[austere igloo]

I use this to make those rpd users ragequit

[maiden ocean]

That skin is such a W, can easily classify as a leggy if only it had a custom kill animation

[leaden pike]

😂 found an old build I had in a old acc I had

[austere igloo]

Fr

[austere igloo]

What the—

[leaden pike]

Hmm let’s see how many nooby builds I can find

That I used to use

This was the least noobish build I found AHHH the stippled

Hurts my brain

[austere igloo]

BROOO I wanted this qq9 so badly

I wasted a shit load of silver tickets on that crate

But I never managed to get it

[leaden pike]

Gonna make you jealous here I got from my first ever ticket

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

God dammit

I got the stupid dlq skin instead

sigh

[leaden pike]

RIP

[leaden pike]

That’s what I was wanting

I was hunting for a dlq skin for ages

Those years

Tbh I left that acc for a much more older one which my friend had given me which then I got the free dlq rainbow like coloured one it was the best just wish I grinded on this acc

[narrow glen]

@leaden pike, 17 Server Rank

[leaden pike]

Idc

[narrow glen]

Your roles on this server do not allow you to use the AI commands.

Reach out to the server owner to know how to get an ai-authorized role or Unlock unlimited uses of this AI-based feature with a personal plan.

[austere igloo]

These are the only qq9 epics I have

[leaden pike]

Cough cough ONLY cough cough

[austere igloo]

Wdym?

[austere igloo]

Dune fire & neon grunge are nowhere close to golden decree or even cyclone

[austere igloo]

U got the credit shop qq9 skin

[leaden pike]

Black and gold qq9 skin is my fav

[austere igloo]

Missed out on that too

Meanwhile my dlq collection

[leaden pike]

Got that on a diff acc and the neon grunge at the bp rereleases

[leaden pike]

Me who has the neon grunge and only that

[austere igloo]

But I don’t even use them

[leaden pike]

GIMME

[eternal idol]

Is this good or something ?

[leaden pike]

No flex unless it’s diamond

Sadly but It is a nice looking camo

[austere igloo]

Gold is a poor man’s flex

[leaden pike]

Fr

[austere igloo]

It used to be so good…until it got butchered but the devs

[leaden pike]

I got no diamonds on my main rn only two golds which is my FFAR and bison

[austere igloo]

Meanwhile this gun of mine

[leaden pike]

FFAR is very close to diamond then I would have every tournament and grindable camo exception of titanium and Damascus

[austere igloo]

I only hv 2 epics for zrg

[leaden pike]

Jade looks cool but it’s so thick and big

[austere igloo]

& the scope is obstructive

[leaden pike]

Yet I loved it until I lost my email and pass on that acc

Idk but tbh I prefer the gold skin that it’s got on rn

I loved that season

[tired grove]

𝐈𝐭 𝐢𝐬𝐧’𝐭 𝐠𝐨𝐨𝐝 𝐞𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐮𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐠𝐞𝐭 𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐝

[tired grove]

𝐍𝐨 𝐛𝐥𝐮𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐬 𝐖𝐎𝐖!

Can anyone give me a ZRG 20mm build, 𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞?

[tawny walrus]

• Light suppressor
• Short barrel
• Combat stock
• Armor piercing magazine
• Stippled grip

[maiden ocean]

Credits to @/hawkjuin

[tired grove]

Thank you to both

[maiden ocean]

Yw!!

[tired grove]

Huh

[maiden ocean]

Abbreviation for "you're welcome"

[tired grove]

Got it

[ornate jackal]

Does urban legend have a custom iron

[tired grove]

Nope

[maiden ocean]

Don't think any sniper except for mythic dlq has a custom iron

Dunno about mythic rytec though

[tired grove]

𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝐒𝐕𝐃 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐚𝐮𝐥𝐭 𝐨𝐩𝐭𝐢𝐜

[ornate jackal]

Neon grudge, space captain, ironclad enforcer, blood and ivory have different scopes

Im missing a few but yk

Thats what i meant

[tired grove]

DLQ black market has a custom optic maybe

[ornate jackal]

Yeah yeah that too

I just mean like not circular when u ads

[maiden ocean]

Oh scope shape and stuff? Ah I thought about the lines

Nvm, yeah a lot of sniper blueprints have them

[ornate jackal]

Ye

[tired grove]

What does ɴᴠᴍ stands for?

[maiden ocean]

"Never mind"

[tired grove]

Oh

[ornate jackal]

Someone list meta guns i might start usin em

[tired grove]

𝐇𝐕𝐊-30
𝐙𝐑𝐆 20𝐦𝐦/𝐃𝐋𝐐/𝐋𝐨𝐜𝐮𝐬/𝐗𝐩𝐫
𝐂𝐗9
𝐌13
𝐌𝐊9
𝐃𝐑𝐇
𝐏𝐃𝐖
𝐇𝐨𝐥𝐠𝐞𝐫/𝐑𝐏𝐃/𝐔𝐋 336
𝐍𝐚𝐢𝐥 𝐆𝐮𝐧 {𝐌𝐚𝐲𝐛𝐞}
𝐒𝐰𝐢𝐜𝐡𝐛𝐥𝐚𝐝𝐞 𝐗9
𝐋𝐊24
𝐊𝐢𝐥𝐨 141
𝐊𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐠𝐢 6

[ornate jackal]

Ty

[keen gazelle]

blud forget the amax

[tawny walrus]

No Kilo 141.

[keen gazelle]

no wait fr that list is an L

no lk, no sx9

[ornate jackal]

Oh yeah lk24

[ornate jackal]

Do u have an amx build

Just bought another bp vault with it so i might as well use it

Why does it have 6 different stocks

[tawny walrus]

• Monolithic suppressor
• No stock
• Tactical laser
• Extended magazine
• Granulated grip

[ripe turret]

If only I had pic perms here

[ornate jackal]

Ty

[austere igloo]

U mean custom scope? No

[austere igloo]

Yep

[austere igloo]

But u can get them

Right here

[ripe turret]

What level do I have to be

[austere igloo]

It doesn’t matter what level u are

[tired grove]

Oops

[austere igloo]

U can get pic perms here in this channel

But ofc not the others

[austere igloo]

Amax is also underrated ngl

[quasi grotto]

Please guy who can help me with broken kind of sensitivity, on iPhone

[ripe turret]

But I don't have pic perms here

[tired grove]

Custom long barrel/Monolithic suppressor
No stock
OWC laser tactical
Extended mag
Granulated grip tape

[tired grove]

I know

[tired grove]

Yeah that too

[tired grove]

I added those don’t you see

[austere igloo]

u can get them

@ripe turret

[glacial marten]

Can yall help me understand how gunsmithing works ? Cause I feel like I've been doing it wrong ,my builds are unbalanced and I'm obsessed with 0 recoil

[keen gazelle]

Overall people share builds that tailor it to everybody, soo finding a build suited for you is the best way to play

i like to say that if a player does best with a odd build, use the “odd build” but build it right

can i see some gunsmiths and loadouts youve done before? @glacial marten

[dusty heart]

Just put steady stock and range boost and extended mag and call it a day

[ornate jackal]

I wish m4lmg had range boost that wasnt mono sup

[tawny walrus]

Something wrong with M4LMG - it’s really weak.

[ornate jackal]

They buffed the dmg and some other stuff it just needs a little more impact and range and it would be no.2 lmg

[tired grove]

M4LMG is literally a weak LMG

[tawny isle]

g36 is betyer choice

[ornate jackal]

The slander is crazy

[austere igloo]

I want to find something good to say abt the M4LMG

But it’s difficult

Speaking of which…

What should I name my kn?

[ornate jackal]

I wouldnt name it tbh

[austere igloo]

Why?

I wanna give it a name

[ornate jackal]

Kn44 is a good name and it suits it

Just like how i wouldnt rename m13 its just classic

[austere igloo]

But I did rename my m13

[ruby iris]

Name it to kn44

[austere igloo]

U wanna know what I renamed my m13

[vale lichen]

Gulag

[vale lichen]

[austere igloo]

Look

[ripe turret]

I have 3 sides

[austere igloo]

U flexing or?

[vale lichen]

Atleast you are creative about it lol

Mine are plain

[tired grove]

Name your M13 ‘MCX Spear LT’ the real name of that gun

[austere igloo]

boring

[tired grove]

Then name ‘Grass likes M13’

[dusty heart]

Mary poppins is a nice reference

Lady that flies around with an umbrella

[austere igloo]

even worse

[tawny walrus]

I called my M13 like that.

[tired grove]

Then ‘My favourite boi M13’

[tired grove]

I also too

[austere igloo]

u seem to be missing the point

[tired grove]

Wut

[austere igloo]

I'm asking for a name suggestion for KN not M13

[vale lichen]

Somtimes i wonder what killed me

[tawny isle]

i need thay epic

[tawny isle]

stop whining

the name i mean

[austere igloo]

sounds awful lot like what I renamed my cbr

[ornate jackal]

Those are literally the same builds but with diff ammo

[austere igloo]

I don't know what he's trying to say

[ripe turret]

That's the only good build

[austere igloo]

@tawny isle

[austere igloo]

only good build??

[ripe turret]

Flexing what

[austere igloo]

Bro tripping

[ripe turret]

Yes only good build

[austere igloo]

bro really made a kar98 build with no suppression & visible laser sights

[ripe turret]

I'm guessing you hardscope with kilo bolt

[narrow glen]

@ripe turret, 17 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

I don't even use that

& why would u quickscope with the kar98 when sniper rifles exist?

[ripe turret]

Then you can kindly stop typing know it all stuff lol

[austere igloo]

I don't use the kar98 but even I know ur build isn't "the only good build" for kar98

[ripe turret]

I can snipe people from 20 m

[austere igloo]

ok and?

u say that like nobody else can do that

[ripe turret]

Then why would I need a sniper

[ornate jackal]

I make my own builds

[ripe turret]

But they're not kilo bolt

[austere igloo]

so if I can kill u from 30m with sks does that mean my sks build is good? as opposed to skill?

[full valve]

Does anyone have a good S&D >ZRG 20mm< build?

[narrow glen]

@full valve, 4 Server Rank

[ornate jackal]

U can do the same with any gun build passive or aggro or balanced

[ruby iris]

Only the 4th is viable tbh

[austere igloo]

it doesn't need to be

[ripe turret]

Well yea

[austere igloo]

yea...no

[ornate jackal]

Viable for the average user u mean

[tawny isle]

ohh yeah

[ripe turret]

But I assume you would only hardscope with the sks lol

[austere igloo]

u are making it sound like hardscoping is a bad thing

[ruby iris]

Viable as in not being outperformed by other guns by a landslide

[full valve]

Cheers m8 will test

[ornate jackal]

Dang im late i scrolled up

[austere igloo]

and yea, I hardscope...so what?

[ripe turret]

It is

[austere igloo]

to u, perhaps

[tawny isle]

only build yoy shoupd use un snd

[austere igloo]

not to everyone else

[ruby iris]

Hardscoping is based

[ripe turret]

I just don't like sitting in a corner but I do hardscope in br

[ornate jackal]

In terms of lmgs i think it outperforms a few of them

[full valve]

I used dlq33 first but it's diamond now so time to switch

[austere igloo]

unlike u Youtube montage wannabes running around like a fucking monkey in mp I use the marksman/snipers like how they were meant to be used

[austere igloo]

if I wanted to be a monkey i got my ars & smgs for those

[austere igloo]

that sounds more like a you problem, sorry not sorry

[ruby iris]

S36 and dingo, ye, that's it

[ornate jackal]

I agree with the statement for marksmen cause running around with the hf is horrible but snipers arent bad in cqc if ur top tier(im not but u might be)

[ripe turret]

Hey man if you wanna camp atleast be smart about it

[ruby iris]

They should buff hipfire on everything

[ripe turret]

All the campers I meet sit in the same spot hardscoping

[ruby iris]

[ocean narwhal]

skill issue get good cry

[austere igloo]

but I am

[ornate jackal]

Hades, pkm, bruen, and maybe(this is top tier glazing) RPD

[ripe turret]

Go back to bed, fido

[ruby iris]

[ocean narwhal]

ok fake china kid

[ornate jackal]

Bruen is shit it didnt make meta within introduction

I dont mean for br just mp. Pkm and s36 better in br

[ocean narwhal]

dont let the chinese communist party catch u lacking

[austere igloo]

S36

[ocean narwhal]

-2000 social credit

[austere igloo]

pkm in br is better?

[ornate jackal]

Yeah

[austere igloo]

s36 is the best lmg in br

[ripe turret]

Are we reading bios now?

[ornate jackal]

I said s36 tho

[ocean narwhal]

oww so cute

mad fr

[austere igloo]

but why include pkm?

[ripe turret]

You need better comebacks

[ocean narwhal]

imagine whining after dying to the same hardscoper 3 times

[ruby iris]

Hades and bruen are chopper clones, if one of them is outperforming m4lmg, then all of them are

Pkm is just an m4lmg that can shoot straight and is actually viable for long range and wallbang spam

Rpd is on par with pkm due to the sheer amount of lead it can spit

[ornate jackal]

Cause it is good in br i swear

[ocean narwhal]

skill issue fr uninstall bro

womp womp me died to sniper!! hardscope bad!!

xi jin ping plz nerf snaipree

i will pey 100 social creditzz

[austere igloo]

[ocean narwhal]

🤓☝️

[austere igloo]

I haven't tried pkm in br

[ocean narwhal]

🤌🏻🤌🏻 @ripe turret womp womp womp L bozo

[austere igloo]

wtf are u talking about chlee?

[ocean narwhal]

🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[austere igloo]

who's womp womping?

lol

[ocean narwhal]

.

[ripe turret]

Yea I'm not wasting my time with a child

[ocean narwhal]

best comeback ever!11!1!

[ruby iris]

But fr tho, nerf them, make it so that you either have to use a slower build if you want that inf 1 tap or commit to quickscoping and nuke the range potential

[austere igloo]

so...are you agreeing with me?...or???

[ocean narwhal]

average china brain comeback ngl

[ornate jackal]

Hades doesnt have the range or bullet capacity to be better(it also lacks dmg)
Bruen is the worst lmg and it has dog poop reload time
Pkm is kinda too slow for mp but i do understand its good I use it even but takes too long to mag dump and also bad reload time
Me saying rpd was just glazing tbh

[ocean narwhal]

yeah agreeing with u

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

[ocean narwhal]

[ornate jackal]

I only saw rpds in mp cause it was free for a bit

[ocean narwhal]

pov @ripe turret 's mirror: 🤡

🗣️🔥🔥🤌🏻

[ruby iris]

Bro never played lmgs seriously

[austere igloo]

yea for a week

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

& now the rpd's are gone

[ocean narwhal]

💯

[austere igloo]

replaced by qq9s & switch'es

[ocean narwhal]

@ripe turret uninstall!

[ornate jackal]

Ive played with every lmg in mp other than s36 and dingo

[ocean narwhal]

@ripe turret uninstall!

[ruby iris]

Extensively?

[ocean narwhal]

bros bio says bing chilling

wo xi huan bing chilling

wo bu xi huan sniper

[ornate jackal]

The only serious ones ive gave a chance tho is rpd, hades, m4lmg, pkm and ul(like used for more than 2 weeks)

[ruby iris]

Use each for like a month in ranked

[ornate jackal]

Im using this rn

[ruby iris]

L

[ocean narwhal]

anti- @ripe turret sniper

hardscope master gun and no hitmark

beri good to kill sore losers like @ripe turret

kill effect is a sore kid complaining in all chat!

[ornate jackal]

I only use pkm in hp or tdm and i play passive i like when people rush me passive so i dont use sup

[ruby iris]

If you played passive you'd throw away laser and put on a supp

[ocean narwhal]

no suppressor = gay

[ruby iris]

Also 200r

And marksman

[ocean narwhal]

marksman tac 200r disable snatch ✅✅

☝️

[ruby iris]

Snatch to steady stock for bsa

[ocean narwhal]

✅✅

[ruby iris]

And flinch to abuse that inf 4 tap

[ocean narwhal]

3x for bigger enemies

[ornate jackal]

I used m4lmg since its release
Rpd i used for like exactly 2 weeks
Hades over a month(i tried to beat the hades is mid allegations)
Ul i used for at least 3 months its the goat
And for pkm idk how long ive been using it but its fitting

[ocean narwhal]

bro used m4lmg for 4 years

[ruby iris]

Idk who said hades is mid

[ornate jackal]

Ye im only just recently getting on lb cause i delete the game super often

[ocean narwhal]

hades better than holgay

[ornate jackal]

I returned 2 seasons ago

[ruby iris]

Everyone i talked to agreed that hades is good, but holger is just more braindead

[ornate jackal]

This kinda like one of those takes where i would agree but like

[ocean narwhal]

yes

holgay = for trash fucks
hades = for chad

[ripe turret]

Why are you so butthurt @ocean narwhal

Why are you spamming me friend requests

[ocean narwhal]

why are u back sore china

to get ur attention and waste ur time obv

[ocean narwhal]

use that thing above ur neck

[ornate jackal]

Too slow i tried 150 with mono over ranger

[ruby iris]

If you have problem with mobility, you're using it wrong ngl

[ocean narwhal]

what mobility

just dont move bro

[ornate jackal]

Mobility? Ye i dont run with it

[ruby iris]

Just sit in a corner and spray into a wall, someone will eventually walk behind that wall and get wallbanged by you

[ornate jackal]

I go to hp sit on it and then spam pre-ads and fire when i see enemy

[ruby iris]

That's how you use pkm

[ocean narwhal]

just use this

[ruby iris]

Never challenge someone without a wall inbetween the 2 of you

[ocean narwhal]

this mf gun needs 7 attachments

[ornate jackal]

This what i mean by no range

[ruby iris]

I run laser over crossbar for bsa

[ornate jackal]

U get dmg buff and fire interval but lose range

[ocean narwhal]

heatseeker>

[ruby iris]

it has infinite 5 tap but aight

[ruby iris]

Actually based

[ornate jackal]

I also ran laser, for snd i ran no mag but stock

[ocean narwhal]

[ruby iris]

Stock is useless

[ornate jackal]

Ads speed > unnecessary bullets

[ruby iris]

Stock doesnt make your ads speed better

[ornate jackal]

Ads movement

[ocean narwhal]

who got rpd build

[ruby iris]

Hybrid mag gives you a shitload of ammo and better down time

[ruby iris]

Ahh, even more useless on lmgs

[ruby iris]

Tac supp
Cc barrel
Steady stock
Fmj
Gran tape

[ornate jackal]

Use infinite ammo, fmj, tac/mono sup gran and stock of choice

[ocean narwhal]

i just made this and thought its too slow but nvm

[rigid oasis]

1v1

[ornate jackal]

I used no stock for better ads since the infinite ammo negates ur hit flinch

[rigid oasis]

1v1

[ocean narwhal]

go 1v1 ur dad irl

[ornate jackal]

Dad strength goes crazy hed lose

[ruby iris]

Use fmj pkm against him in killhouse

[rigid oasis]

Ban chlee

[ocean narwhal]

[ocean narwhal]

cry handeez

[ornate jackal]

Im down tho i have nothing else to do next time ask in #1146179628638142627

[ocean narwhal]

this is why i hate kids

autistic mfs

[rigid oasis]

Ok

Add my

iBossxmax

[ruby iris]

[ocean narwhal]

@ornate jackal use pkm fmj in killhouse

dont forget pinpoint

[ruby iris]

[ocean narwhal]

enemy nuke has been launched

now i need diamond grau

cant see the fucking iron sights its too thin and black

[slender sphinx]

hi guys im new on this server

i just want to ask which attachments do you use on m13

[austere igloo]

K

[ocean narwhal]

K

[tawny walrus]

I got diamond Grau today.

[tawny isle]

i hope thats for br

[ocean narwhal]

mp LOL

[tawny isle]

oh god pls no

[slender sphinx]

and some attachments with full ammo do you have?

[ocean narwhal]

full ammo 💀

[slender sphinx]

just joke bro

[ocean narwhal]

i dont like flex m13

its just a worse ffar that way

[tawny isle]

this aint flex this is ultra aggro

[ocean narwhal]

use smg

[narrow glen]

@ocean narwhal, 28 Server Rank

[tawny isle]

yeah but hes asking for m13

[slender sphinx]

btw how are you?

[austere igloo]

Laser 💀

[austere igloo]

Tired

[ornate jackal]

It was nuketown.

I did use pkm tho

[vale lichen]

Build💀💀

Wtf is that?? Foregrip on m-13 MP build??

[ornate jackal]

I need a ffar build

[glossy knoll]

No

[tawny isle]

agency sup,
19.5 taskforce,
fa foregrip,
salvo 44,
ae wrap,

[tawny isle]

thats the reccomended leggy build

[tawny walrus]

That’s the one, I’ve been always using.

[glacial marten]

Uh sure told you I was obsessed with zero recoil so be ready for an abomination lol (the barrel for the new lmg is the one with more precision and recoil buffs )

[keen gazelle]

yeah right off the bat

you could do zero recoil with little effort other than this

[unique schooner]

i am very blind

[keen gazelle]

I think operaor foregrip is gunna be a must for you

but also optimize range and

do you care abt ads speeds?

[half fulcrum]

All trash

[glacial marten]

I would say yes since I don't want a fast aim but I want to be paired up with my reaction time

[keen gazelle]

for you but if it helps him play at his best then its good

you shouldnt look at gunsmiths as a single build, very bad pov

look at it more as how it works for the specific player

[keen gazelle]

for starters

a different gun would help, all those guns arnt the best for no recoil

they have more recoil than some ars soo youre compensating, try these

[glacial marten]

All noted but what gun would u say (I'm not at a beginner lvl)

Grandmaster in br and master in mp (not to flex jus to help you understand me)

[keen gazelle]

@glacial marten

Amax •
Ak47 •
Grau •
Bk57
M4 •
Lk24 •
FR .556
PDW
HG40
QQ9
Razorback

[unique schooner]

fr is crazy

[keen gazelle]

the ones with points are my too recommendations, starting with the LK24 and Bizon (didnt put it there)

[keen gazelle]

Low recoil, like very

[unique schooner]

aimshake tho? isnt that one of the things that turn people away from it?

[keen gazelle]

yeah with a regular build, he focuses on recoil and the higher you go in bsa the lesser the shake is

and itll still have good ads, lemme show a build

[unique schooner]

oh really, never knew that tbh

[keen gazelle]

well in my experience

i may be wrong lol

[unique schooner]

cuz i recently gotten a blueprint for the fr the other day and i've been meaning to play around with it sooner or later

[glacial marten]

Mhmmm they are guns I used and tbh I'm in love with the bizon and the Grau since I abused them its just that I don't know how to build them for my sense I just used the ones recommended or copied some that I've experienced in various matches

[keen gazelle]

feel too lazy to edit today but look

Fair ads speeds, little shake, and still range boosting with an extended mag

you could even go as far as to change the stock for a perk/tac scope

[keen gazelle]

Bizon and LK would be the ones i very strongly recommend

have you tried the lk24?

[glacial marten]

Yeah the build I use for it is no stock marksman barrel mono supp 50 mag and ranger foregrip

[keen gazelle]

try my builds, i play the same way you do

[unique schooner]

I've always ran this build for the past year or two

[keen gazelle]

this is the lk and amax btw

[glacial marten]

Dayum they look insanely stable jus like I want, do you mind sliding me the gunsmith for em ?

[keen gazelle]

yeah absolutely, taking pictures rn

these id recommend
Lk24
Grau
M4
Ak47
these are are tailored to my playstyle, these arnt the normal builds, but they do what you want

Low recoil with an extended mag and most of then boost range

for me the ads is perfect

1st is the build in the video (its really just for looks)
2nd is the better build thatll do the same job

[glacial marten]

@keen gazelle bro u a life saver fr thanks to you i found the best weapons suites for me, i tried the lk and the amax and they feel broken thanks man

[keen gazelle]

yeah man absolutely, try them in ranked and lmk if you wanna try more guns

literally all i like are low recoil guns like that soo its my thing lol

[glacial marten]

Lmao that's me fr , but on br would u recommend the same gunsmiths ?

[keen gazelle]

uhmm

yeah i would for the lk and the m4

[ornate jackal]

Br its basically the same u go range and bullet spread accuracy, the rest should be fixable via attachments

[stiff grotto]

Does anyone has the best koshka gunsmith dm me plz 🙏

[ornate jackal]

I dmed u

[stiff grotto]

Tysm

[shadow briar]

BR go range, BSA and a suppressor

[shadow briar]

wounding

[shadow briar]

all of those builds are 2-3/5

[tired grove]

Bro no mag? You gotta be kidding me

[keen gazelle]

what abt it

[shadow briar]

lk and ak 3tap, no need for wounding

grau maybe

[tired grove]

𝐖𝐡𝐲 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠? 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬

[shadow briar]

m4 suppressor is more important than wounding

[tired grove]

𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐞

[shadow briar]

but that might just be my comp snd brain talking

[unique schooner]

why the fuck would i need a mag

i do perfectly fine without one as a mag is optional

[shadow briar]

SoH makes reload fast enough

[tired grove]

𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐦𝐚𝐠, 𝐢𝐭’𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐲

[tired grove]

𝐘𝐞𝐚𝐡

[shadow briar]

just need to be a bit more careful with the angles you take cause you have less bullets to work with

[unique schooner]

you dumb as fuck if you constantly need a mag to counteract how much you miss your shots if im honest

you perform bad without, i do perfectly fine with the rounds i have

[tired grove]

𝐃𝐨𝐧’𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐫𝐮𝐝𝐞

𝐂𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐥, 𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐥

𝐈 𝐠𝐨𝐭 𝐢𝐭 𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐬𝐚𝐢𝐝

[unique schooner]

good, noww get it imprented into you head

[tired grove]

𝐘𝐞𝐚𝐡

[shadow briar]

ext mag is nice to have, but not needed

[tired grove]

Useless

[shadow briar]

you’re either getting the kill in 8 bullets MAX or you’re either repositioning or respawning

[unique schooner]

exactly, in my opinion and experience, it has taught me discipline

[shadow briar]

it’s nice to have as long as it doesn’t become a crutch

[ornate jackal]

It depends on the gun

[keen gazelle]

am i serious? you’re asking as if you know the usage of it

but we could always 1v1 and you can find out how “bad” wounding is

[shadow briar]

wounding is slow hp regen right?

[ornate jackal]

Ye

[shadow briar]

its nice if you dont win the gunfight outright on the first engagement

[unique schooner]

i know i used to be a dude that heavily pushed the standard builds but awhile ago i kinda realized bryan's point when it came to builds

[keen gazelle]

Very good for 1 on 1 gun fights, snd , 1v1’s. also helps when either pushing or keeping an enemy back

[keen gazelle]

Thank you

[ornate jackal]

Whatever works for u best is whatever u should use

[keen gazelle]

yes exactly exactly exactly that

what use is meta if you end up doing better with off meta

[shadow briar]

if i ever get teammates i trust to clean a gunfight i lose i might swap to wounding

as long as my ranked MVP is 50%+, aint no way

[tired grove]

𝓤𝓱𝓱…

[weary aurora]

I say 1v1 about it

[ornate jackal]

Juju vs bryan? Yes

[weary aurora]

Not me

Ehaan and Brian

[ornate jackal]

Nah ur pro it would be fun to watch

[weary aurora]

This time am a spectator

[weary aurora]

Ju is definitely not and is mid

[shadow briar]

meaning hes probably about Ehaan's level

[ornate jackal]

I wanna 1v1 Sunny and grass

[weary aurora]

ain’t grass Garena how will y’all do that

[ornate jackal]

By pro i meant pro V gg

Oh grass is garena right yea that sucks

[shadow briar]

tbh i want to get ROLLED by them to see how much room i have to improve

[weary aurora]

yea I have wanted to see sunny play someone in a 1v1 I will assume he is quite nice tho

[ornate jackal]

Firing range best 1v1 map too fr

Infinite wallbang

[weary aurora]

Most do shipment and kh

[ornate jackal]

Shipment and nuketown give me aids i hate them in 1v1

[weary aurora]

[tawny walrus]

I’m bad at 1v1.

[shadow briar]

nuketown is actually such an overrated map

i just get it every 3-4 matches so ive played it so much i hate it

[keen gazelle]

lmk when @tired grove

[ruby wind]

Pro chat

[tawny isle]

huh

[neat rapids]

anyone now how to download the test server for codm

[maiden rain]

Ya i really want it

[neat rapids]

Me to

Send me the link

Please

[rich arch]

I download this but I can't start playing

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 6 Server Rank

[cerulean hamlet]

does anyone have asval builds?

[narrow glen]

@cerulean hamlet, 10 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Anyone here using the M13 but he /she doesn't have a skin for it?

[half fulcrum]

Mip 200, owc skeleton stock, owc laser, ext mag b and gran grip tape

[lunar skiff]

What’s the best pistol

[maiden rain]

50.gs

[tawny isle]

its ful

[tawny isle]

my build

[neat rapids]

Anyone tryna play ranked multiplayer

[maiden rain]

Bet

[neat rapids]

What ur username

[maiden rain]

What rank?

*Lean

[neat rapids]

Mp

[maiden rain]

Ya

[neat rapids]

My username bestzavier

[real crescent]

#1146179128161226792

[neat rapids]

accept my friend request

Kaya

[maiden rain]

Alr

[neat rapids]

K

What level are you

[maiden rain]

Its not poppin up

259

[neat rapids]

accept my friend request

[narrow glen]

@neat rapids, 6 Server Rank

[neat rapids]

Kaya I sent you a friend request

accept it

[maiden rain]

I sent one its not popping up

[neat rapids]

Kaya you got a mythic

In codm

Hold on I’m in a game

What ur username

Ok#

Mine bestzavier username

Yes

You ready

[maiden rain]

Ya we playin wit death

[neat rapids]

Accept my friend request

Yeah

Wait

[maiden rain]

Sorry zavier i haven’t played tdm in a yeat

Year

[neat rapids]

It’s good

[sonic path]

anyone wanna play?

[narrow glen]

@sonic path, 3 Server Rank

[honest sedge]

Anyone have a krig 6 build for long range

[rich arch]

If you equip demo expert, can it be a one tap kill everywhere?

_

[bright dragon]

Is he a rare character? I seen something or Reddit saying they wanted a chance to get ghost for them to bring him back but they could be talking about a different version.

[glossy knoll]

Holger is so good

[tawny isle]

he is

he was released in the very first szn

[glossy knoll]

How much I gotta talk for pic perms

Like damn

[bright dragon]

Nice I have him because when I first started playing I think he was there. I haven’t played the game for a few years and coming back now I’ve been using the new stuff I’ve been getting but I guess it’s worth it to use ghosts since he’s now rare

[tawny isle]

bro i was so close to gwtting him

[bright dragon]

What did you have to do to get him? I just remember playing a lot back then

[tawny isle]

pretty much the same as the bp tdy

[unreal gale]

top grau build rn

[tawny isle]

reach tier 50

[rich arch]

Just use something you like lol

[rich arch]

Also, does anyone know about this?

[unreal gale]

wait grau might actually be rank 1

[bright dragon]

I did think that’s was cool because he had a skeleton face I mean now he’s rare it seems and I only have the current season stuff because I just came back

[tawny isle]

nope

hvk is

grau is def better than kilo imo

[unreal gale]

hvk has ammo issues

grau literally has no issue

[bright dragon]

Very close to something I started experimenting with

It’s weird to see it with a 71 mobility though

[unreal gale]

you should add a mag

and drop the laser

[bright dragon]

The laser is only for more accuracy

[unreal gale]

the sight also isn't that great imo, so I'd use a red dot

[bright dragon]

I like that sight I’ve always been an iron sights type of person very rarely have I ever used a red dot on a gun I feel the recoil is worse with a red dot for some reason

[tawny isle]

this is what i use

for ultra aggro

[maiden rain]

How do you post those

[tawny isle]

image

perms

i dont remember how though

[maiden rain]

Ph

This the fastest ads dlq

[tawny isle]

wait wdym post

on #codm-gunsmith-builds ?

[maiden rain]

Ya

I figured it out

[rich arch]

Lol

[maiden rain]

Trust

[rich arch]

Lmao

[hollow panther]

might be?

it kinda is rn ngl

[tawny isle]

aint no way the rail gunis a leggy

[hollow panther]

and yk its not getting a nerf cuzz the mythic is dropping

gotta get those sales

[rich arch]

Yo anyone trynna vc and play some ranked I'm in silver

[hollow panther]

silver?

this isnt valorant

[bright dragon]

I know everyone raves about the grau but idk why. The Maddox has very similar stats and I found a build that can rival it. Is it maybe the iron sights? If you have the Halloween version then the iron sights are very easy to use. I don’t even use the rapid fire on it and it has the same fire rate as the grau.

Very minimal 1 point difference but not only that the Maddox has almxot no recoil. Way easier to manage than the grau

[hollow panther]

grau has no recoil as well but alright

guess ill try the maddox soon

[tawny isle]

maddox is kinda mid now

it used to be so good

[bright dragon]

Idk for me I can tell the grau has some recoil, not to say the Maddox doesn’t but it stays in the middle pretty consistently. I mean what might make people not want to try the Maddox is the iron sights. They’re kinda weird if you don’t have the Halloween skin

[tawny isle]

i mastered it in 3 days

[bright dragon]

I also got a ton of long shots with the Maddox it’s pretty good at range as well

[tawny isle]

its easy to get gold for it

[viscid belfry]

which build for maddox?

[bright dragon]

I got the Halloween one about 2 days now and I’ve been loving it, don’t know that I’ll ever use gold because I have the legendary

[viscid belfry]

nice

but i asked the build not skin

[bright dragon]

These are the builds I use that I like, I don’t know if they’re the best but this gun shoots so good

One has a little more handling the other has more accuracy

[tawny isle]

first build better but you can replace laser with perk

[bright dragon]

What perk would you suggest?

[tawny isle]

fmj or soh

[bright dragon]

I haven’t even made a rapid fire build yet

[bright dragon]

I think FMJ for sure because there’s so many times I watch kill cam and they’re shooting the floor while I’m in coverage killing me

Plus it has a 60 mag clip

[tawny isle]

most of the time thats prob desync

[bright dragon]

What’s that? Also the laser actually adds 7 points of accuracy. The laser for this gun are a little different

See it went from 60 to 53

[tawny isle]

i mean if you dont like laser

[bright dragon]

I don’t really like laser but I feel with this specific one 7 points is a lot in accuracy

[tawny isle]

desync is when you lag a few milliseconds in your enemy’s perspective behind because your wifi is slower than theirs

[bright dragon]

Typically it only adds 2-3 points and some mobility but not this one

[bright dragon]

Ah maybe that’s it, because a lot of the times they’re actually not hitting me when I see kill cam

[tawny isle]

yeah

its so annoying

basically a whole new level of pay to win

[viscid belfry]

no

if u want change do it at stock

laser on maddox its op

[bright dragon]

I feel this because it adds 7 points of accuracy where most lasers dont add that

If you don’t want a perk you can leave the stock. The stocks only assist with more mobility

I’m already currently in a clan sorry! I just joined one because I hadn’t been playing for awhile

So I know we talked about skulker for the red perk but I feel lightweight is better. I love to run and gun and it helps me get out of there faster. I don’t feel skulker has helped me that much

Ok I think it will make me wait 24hrs though

[shadow briar]

i prefer LW over absolutely everything 90% of the time

last 10% is flak jacket when holding OBJ

[bright dragon]

Yea I feel LW is better but a lot of people were recommending skulker for red perk but I don’t like to as much.

I play a lot of TDM

[shadow briar]

skulker, is that faster botwalk and crouch walk

[bright dragon]

I left it says wait 24 hours

[strong monolith]

Just a quick survey here, what do you guys consider as the best AR (Battle Royale only)?

[tawny isle]

oden

with rds

or mythic

[bright dragon]

Is there no way to test iron sights of a gun before you buy? There’s a FFAR in for 20k but that’s all my points and if it doesn’t change the iron sights I don’t want to waste my money

Ok I joined the discord!

[ruby iris]

M13

Shit beams

Great bv

[strong monolith]

Objectively the correct answer

[shadow briar]

117 or oden

1. not an AR
2. mid

[ruby iris]

Ar

[ruby iris]

Decent, not mid tbh

[shadow briar]

feels too much like a super soaker for my tastes

[ruby iris]

-58.2% hipfire spread

30m hipfire go brrr

[strong monolith]

PPSh is really fun in BR since you can get godly hipfire spread, you literally shouldn't ADS with it
But yeah in terms of TTK and recoil, there are other guns that do it better

[strong monolith]

So you are mostly relying on your movement speed advantage when hipfiring

[tawny walrus]

This is crazy.

[ruby iris]

Hipfire is more accurate than ads on ppsh

[bright dragon]

What are vault coins used for?

[shadow briar]

might have to try that then

[tawny walrus]

To obtain rewards from bought vault passes.

[bright dragon]

How exactly do I get to that?

[narrow glen]

@bright dragon, 18 Server Rank

[tawny walrus]

From getting tiers in ongoing battle passes.

[neat rapids]

Anyone wanna play multiplayer ranked

[ripe turret]

But it is

[undone sandal]

looks like i was wrong about breach using mp stats

it uses br stats so top br guns r the go to

[undone sandal]

apart from the weapon comp tab being completely overlooked by me
there's tons of indicators thats saying its mp basedbut oh well

[unreal gale]

wait but people don;t have 300 hp in breach do they?

[undone sandal]

200 but its close enough

still uses br stats though

all guns having bv, some guns having better stats compared to its mp counterpart

[bright dragon]

So I have to spend real money to get to be able to use vault coins? So in other words vault coins are useless unless I spend

[tawny walrus]

Yes, it is.

[bright dragon]

That’s dumb they give us a reward that isn’t even worth anything unless you spend money

What’s the point of the ground pass over the battle?

[undone sandal]

essentially ground forces is a better premium plus bundle

when you buy gf pass
you get premium pass
extra rewards like character
and discounted items

[tawdry vault]

There's a little loop you can do with the battle, that Im pretty sure people do alot but Im unsure about that; its that when you buy the bp, the total cp is 560, the exact price of the battle pass; meaning, that if you pay for the bp once, you essentially never have to again, as long as you dont spend anything else

[undone sandal]

premium plus gives you
premium pass + 12 tiers
extra rewards

[undone sandal]

pretty sure everyone who has bought one knows about it

[tawdry vault]

Yeah, I figured, but Im just sayin

[undone sandal]

if it costs you 220, you get 220 back if you get to tier 50

[shadow briar]

buy it where its 220 and finish it where its 560

[unreal gale]

rip win rate

[shadow briar]

only need t49 actually

[undone sandal]

you can't do that lol

[unreal gale]

sbmm is extra cringe this season

[tawdry vault]

Fr

[unreal gale]

37%

amazing

[tawdry vault]

Cant land a single bot match to grind properly

[unreal gale]

My ranked kd is 2.94 and I have a 37% win rate

this game is so fun

[undone sandal]

soloq is amazing

4 streak loss last night

[shadow briar]

soloq is pain

[unreal gale]

I'm queueing with mumei rn

same thing

last random that went positive was well over 40 games ago

how is winning even possible

[shadow briar]

5stack with meta and camp

[unreal gale]

and you get no games

• you match against the sweatiest sweats you've ever seen

[undone sandal]

fr

and if u play solo/duo

the rest of ur team is shit

[tawdry vault]

The last time I had a streak of wins higher than 3 was back in gm

[undone sandal]

mine was when i queue with friends

[shadow briar]

sadly not exclusive to leggy

[tawny isle]

anyone know when train to nowhere comes back to vault

[shadow briar]

half of GM is either bots or silvers who got carriedby teammates or let older brother play

[tawny isle]

i need the covert canopy

[undone sandal]

no info about future vaults yet

[bright dragon]

How do you get the grau iron sights that look like a stem? Not the full circle one. I feel my iron sights used to be the stem looking one before I got the S10 version

[shadow briar]

one of the barrels (archangel?)

[tawdry vault]

Excluding blueprints, changing the barrel will change the irons

[ruby iris]

Use the base gun

[bright dragon]

Can someone help me get that sight? I am using archangel but that’s the full circle one

I like the stem one it’s more clean

[shadow briar]

take off ranked skin

[bright dragon]

So this

[tawdry vault]

Yes, change the barrel on the base and the irons will change

[bright dragon]

It still gives me the full circle, if I put archangel on the base it will give me the stem?

[tawdry vault]

Yes

Not all of them are uniquely different, but they're all different

[bright dragon]

Ok thank you! That’s so weird on the s10 reward with archangel it gives me the full circle

Still full circle

[shadow briar]

try different barrels

i know one of them has a good sight, just dont remember which

[rich arch]

Take off the default look

[brittle fog]

Why does no one focus on long range is it for more damage?

[shadow briar]

plenty of people run an extended barrel or mono supp to get a fewextra metres

[rich arch]

With what class?

Shotguns are worthless outside of 15m

Smgs are only good up till about 20m, AR and lmg are literally the same

[brittle fog]

What about slugs and what proof do you have of ar and lmgs doing more damage on close range?

[unreal gale]

yeah grau beams

[shadow briar]

slugs are generally not worth

[unreal gale]

turn default look off

[shadow briar]

all guns except rockets have damage drop off at range

[rich arch]

The only difference in most lmgs to ar is the range profile

[bright dragon]

Thank you guys that worked

[rich arch]

Lmg have a better long range ttk

[unreal gale]

but don't do that. use red dot @bright dragon

[unreal gale]

realy depends on which lmg and which ar you're talking about

[shadow briar]

use 4.4x

[rich arch]

Most lmgs and ars are the same besides my baby the Ul

[unreal gale]

try this

UL is great

[rich arch]

The meta Grau

[unreal gale]

but it's way too slow. You literally become a sentry gun

[rich arch]

Or play to its style

[unreal gale]

holger is similar but you can actually move

holger does require you to have a decent skin though

[rich arch]

The no stock nerf killed it

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 7 Server Rank

[unreal gale]

holger + rds has really bad aim assist

[rich arch]

Or it's just your aim

[unreal gale]

no

it's the aim assist

[bright dragon]

This sight is nice

[rich arch]

I use holger rds quite a bit

[unreal gale]

do you have annodized or some paid variant?

[rich arch]

I have the mythic

[unreal gale]

you can compare it with ironsights

yeah. compare the base and the rds variants in training range

you can for sure feel a difference

[rich arch]

I don't

I use rds a lot

Gotta be a aim issue

[unreal gale]

lmao explain how it's an aim issue

literally has nothing to do with aim

[rich arch]

Because I was a free the play player for the longest time

Holger was the first mythic I bought

For br or mp?

[unreal gale]

that doesn't explain why it's an aim issue at all

[rich arch]

Do I need to use a rds holger and show you

[strong monolith]

It pleases me that no one has said AK47

[tawdry vault]

Ak47

[strong monolith]

Death to you

[tawdry vault]

I kid, obviously

[strong monolith]

I partially forgive you

[narrow glen]

@strong monolith, 10 Server Rank

[tawdry vault]

Id rather choose maddox than ak57

47*

[rich arch]

Ak is the best AR for br without a doubt

[hollow idol]

m13/oden

[narrow glen]

@hollow idol, 2 Server Rank

[rich arch]

But if you want best AR is amax with m67 ammo

I50 to the head all day

[bright dragon]

The AK117 iron sights are the worse I’ve tried different barrels but they all seem to be the same

[rich arch]

They don't change

Grau are the only one that does

[austere igloo]

Skill issue

Ak117 ironsights are fine

[tawdry vault]

So far, at least

[austere igloo]

It is m16 irons that’s worse

& krig

[tawdry vault]

Literal aids, the 16 irons

[austere igloo]

Both m16 & krig with obstructive ghost ring sights

[rich arch]

M16 isn't bad with rds

I just own a good legendary for it

[austere igloo]

I know, but we’re talking abt optic-less m16

No doubt m16 has cleaner sight with rds

[austere igloo]

The targonite?

[rich arch]

Yessir

[austere igloo]

Ayyy I own it too

[rich arch]

Gun is mid asf now

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 8 Server Rank

[rich arch]

The nerf killed it

[shadow briar]

m16 is mid if you dont get the 1 burst

[tawdry vault]

Yo, Grass, I got my first legendary today

[rich arch]

Which one?

[tawdry vault]

Court Jester m4

[austere igloo]

Nice

[austere igloo]

Congrats

[austere igloo]

I don’t even use it with wf perk now

[rich arch]

Too bad m4 blows

[bright dragon]

I really like the M4 but I feel the iron sights are worse on the legendary then they were before that

[tawdry vault]

Want to know something? Damascus actually is kinda good with the court

[shadow briar]

its AA is STUPID generous so if enemy misses even one shot free W

[rich arch]

Og Damascus better

[strong monolith]

AK is just an above average weapon these days
Its got very low recoil and good ammo efficiency but that's abt it
TTK wise it doesn't do anything special
M13, AMAX and LK are generally better options

[ocean narwhal]

that shit is ugly af

[tawdry vault]

You worry too much about irons, I couldn't care less, since its my first leggy

[rich arch]

Not even, much brighter

[ocean narwhal]

its literally just stripes

[rich arch]

That's not the point

[bright dragon]

It’s cuz I never use RDS because that bouncing little red dot makes it harder to aim then good irons

[rich arch]

You use the worse guns in game and get them gold

[tawdry vault]

Skill issue ngl

[rich arch]

Half the guns that are good now were ass when I did Damascus

[rich arch]

I'm a ex top 200 player and a scrim player

It's not a skill issue

[tawdry vault]

Not you, duh

[ocean narwhal]

imagine thinking gold requires skill tho

[tawdry vault]

Talking to mr irons over here

[rich arch]

When you grind in rank