codm-gunsmith-help

[tawdry vault]

Its already useful

[tawny walrus]

I don’t really like burst weapons.

[ocean narwhal]

burst m16 L wf m16 W

[tawdry vault]

I like the ksp and m16, but i dont like chicum or swordfish

Nah, Burst is a W

It doesn't dump your mag

[final leaf]

[tawny walrus]

@unique portal Warn-able?

[unique portal]

Oii don't use emojis in an inappropriate way

[eternal idol]

[narrow glen]

@eternal idol, 25 Server Rank

[pale ferry]

When r they gunna fix the Nail Gun bug?

It's getting irritating atp

[ornate jackal]

I like the complete differentiation of opinions at different times

Both could be valid

[bright dragon]

My first every legendary gun! To bad it doesn’t seem to be a top ranked gun even though typically the AK is normally good in COD games

I actually got it in 8 draws is the drop rate pretty good or did I get really lucky?

[austere igloo]

enjoy

[austere igloo]

u were really lucky

I did 16 draws...nothing good

[bright dragon]

Thank you! I know that legendary guns are just for the skins since it doesn’t actually make the gun any better than the base version.

[bright dragon]

16 multi or 16 singles

[austere igloo]

both

multi & single included

[bright dragon]

Wow that’s a lot I did 8 singles didn’t do a multi at all because I don’t really draw since the only thing your would be drawing for is skins and not stats.

[austere igloo]

I did 1 multi, 6 singles

[tawdry vault]

I got all the free draws(total is 18 if you did the secret) and all I can really speak of it is the calling card

I wouldn't mind having the charm, but alass

[bright dragon]

So question do legendary guns have there own attachments? I just noticed this

[tawdry vault]

If you don't have the attachment already, you can equip them on the blueprint

And yeah, legendarys, mythics too, come with a preset attachment list

[bright dragon]

It’s because I only have lvl 15 with this gun. So in a way legendary and mythic are better and worth it because they get special attachments that aren’t available to purple and lower

[tawdry vault]

No, purple ones do it too

Blue and green ones are just skins

Now, if you're talking about guns that change the look when you add an attachment, thats called geometrics

[bright dragon]

Ah I’ll have to check my purples and see if any of them have special attachments. But legendary has the best special attachments right? Also in a way legendary and up do have better stats because of the special attachments they get

[tawdry vault]

I think in certain blueprints, there's a slight xp booster

[bright dragon]

For the AK is the gru combo grip. The only people that will have that are the ones that got the legendary?

[narrow glen]

@bright dragon, 12 Server Rank

[tawdry vault]

Okay, let me explain

[ruby iris]

You can grind for it

[tawdry vault]

Ricey, let me talk

[ruby iris]

[tawdry vault]

On a couple of guns, there's an attachment that is called the "signature attachment"

What this means is that the particular attachment is what is seen the most on the gun; for example the flashlight is signature to the rus, the gru for the ak, etc

These attachments dont unlock with levels, instead, its a challenge that the gun gives you for that attachment; examples being 30 headshots, 40 longshots, stuff like that

[tawdry vault]

Yes, that

[ruby iris]

Codm mfs having reading comprehension challenge (impossible)

[tawdry vault]

These signature attachments are selectable whether or not its a leggy or higher

[bright dragon]

Thank you for letting me know! So it has nothing to do with me getting the legendary version? The special attachment was always there?

[ruby iris]

[tawdry vault]

Yes

[bright dragon]

That special attachment is huge though it really helps the AK a lot. How come only certain guns have special attachments?

[tawdry vault]

Because not every gun has a signature look

[austere igloo]

because not all guns are the same, lol

[bright dragon]

Is that there way of buffing it?

[tawdry vault]

Also because it'd be annoying to have to work extra for every gun

[austere igloo]

you can't have a slug ammo for rifles can you?

[eternal idol]

Lmao

Bird shot sniper real

[bright dragon]

For example the grau and icr don’t have any special attachments and they’re both AR

[eternal idol]

[austere igloo]

icr does

the macro mag

[bright dragon]

Ooo I love my ICR I’m going to have to look at that

[tawdry vault]

Yeah, macro mag be fun to use

[bright dragon]

You’re right it does but it doesn’t have the weird emblem like the AK had so I didn’t notice it, also when I click on the ICR one it doesn’t say special attachment like the one on the AK

[tawdry vault]

The signature icon isn't on all of them

Its only on them if its the most used attachment in media/irl

[bright dragon]

Ah ok makes sense it’s the first time I noticed it on my AK and that’s only because that’s my first legendary gun so I assumed that’s why I got a signature attachment but now I know! I feel like the one for the ICR makes it really bad though because it takes the mobility down a lot so it will be like playing with an LMG

This is my build

[eternal idol]

Wish I got the holger or m4 sigh

[tawdry vault]

The build is pretty decent

I would replace the strike with ads laser

Ocw tac, I think thats it

I haven't played with the icr in a hot minute

Im always using smgs or snipers

Or lmgs, if I want to give an endless stream of bullets

[bright dragon]

Ok I’ll give that a shot! I wanted to make it like a laser with almost no recoil. Also if I were to put signature attachment on ICR it’s a 20 point drop to mobility while only gaining 10 points overall in both accuracy and range compared to the AK special attachment that gives it 12 points overall split between accuracy and control and only losing 8 point overall in range and mobility

[bright dragon]

I’ve tried so hard to make SMGs work but I’ve given up. I’ve always loved the run and gun play style but I feel in this COD that the subs are just bad. Way to much recoil and I feel they lose out to AR a lot

[tawdry vault]

I like beaming people with smgs

[ocean narwhal]

strike forgrip is the most useless attachment in game u shld avoid using it at all costs

[ruby iris]

Mfw a gun with only strike fg equipped is worse than a gun with no attachments equipped

[ocean narwhal]

🗣️ 🔥

[tawdry vault]

I suggest ocw tac laser

[bright dragon]

Thank you I’ll switch it, so something else I’ve noticed is not just the stats going up but then there’s this, is this separate of the stat increase we see? On older versions of COD they never showed things like this

[ocean narwhal]

dont rely on those

look at the detailed stats instead

[tawdry vault]

Those just tell you what the attachment specs do

[ocean narwhal]

btw how are u sending pics here

[tawdry vault]

This is gunsmith

[ruby iris]

#┃server-media-passes

[tawdry vault]

Its allowed here

[ocean narwhal]

oh nice tyty

[tawdry vault]

Go with gunsmith pass

[ocean narwhal]

i have gained my rights

[bright dragon]

Detailed stats? Where do I see this at?

[ruby iris]

🔀

[tawdry vault]

That icon

[bright dragon]

Some of them say they lower ADS time. That really sucks because that didn’t use to be a thing in older COD games. There’s multiple attachments that can lower ADS time

[bright dragon]

Ah ok I’ve seen this but not really sure what I’m looking for when using it

[ocean narwhal]

laser can be replaced

[tawdry vault]

Its not really noticable except for lmgs with the ads imput

Tac is just for ads, among other things

[ocean narwhal]

u will be fine with just tactical suppressor

icr has very good base range

[tawdry vault]

No, mono is helpful

[bright dragon]

The tac laser helps with ADS?

[ocean narwhal]

i didnt say its not helpful

[tawdry vault]

Idk how, but it does

[ocean narwhal]

but 37m 4 tap is still good

[tawdry vault]

Yeah, true; but who couldn't need more range?

[ocean narwhal]

marksman mono is overkill tho

[bright dragon]

So always use laser on guns to have better ADS?

[tawdry vault]

Yes, especially snipes

It can really help

[ocean narwhal]

dont use laser on snipers

[bright dragon]

I did that because I want it to shoot like a laser with almost no recoil like it did in other COD games

[tawdry vault]

The only laser snipes have is an ads boosting one

Why not use it

[ocean narwhal]

makes little or no difference most of the time

[austere igloo]

Goofy ahh gun

[ocean narwhal]

because of frame rounding

[tawdry vault]

Also, stop contradicting my statements, you keep dissolving my very sound info

[austere igloo]

Lasers on snipers provide only 1 frame of ads boost

1 frame

[tawdry vault]

Still

[austere igloo]

It’s not worth it

[ocean narwhal]

whats wrong with contradicting people

🗣️🗣️

[austere igloo]

No still, it’s detrimental esp in snd

[bright dragon]

I didn’t know lasers actually boost ADS but when it comes to this we can see ADS is on the OWC but not the other one but the other one does give 1 more point in both accuracy and mobility

[austere igloo]

You want people to know where you are just from seeing your very visible laser?

[austere igloo]

The bar stats aren’t reliable

You have to check the interesecting arrows to check the stats

[ocean narwhal]

for a very minimal ads time boost or no difference at all

[austere igloo]

^

Ofc in respawns no one cares

[ocean narwhal]

its either 1 frame at 60fps or just no difference for snipers

[narrow glen]

@ocean narwhal, 23 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

But in SnD it’s critical

[tawdry vault]

Im done, ffs

Clearly I cant give information in peace without someone constantly saying My information is invalid, so I clearly don't need to speak m

[ocean narwhal]

ur providing opinions we are speaking facts

thats the difference

[austere igloo]

Have you ever considered looking at it from a statistical or pragmatic point of view?

Instead of personal points of view

[tawdry vault]

Not everything I say is a pov

[ocean narwhal]

did i contradict everything u say

[austere igloo]

Just because something might work for you doesn’t it works for everyone else

[tawdry vault]

Why do I bother?

Cant have peace in anything, cant I?

[ocean narwhal]

u have said things that are different from what i said but i didnt cry over it or get maldy

[austere igloo]

& personal preference does not measure the statistical superiority of the gun

[ocean narwhal]

^

[austere igloo]

The stats, on the other hand, do

[bright dragon]

Here we go so top is OWC and bottom is with MIP laser

[austere igloo]

Mip laser isn’t worth using on an ar

[ocean narwhal]

yeah

[austere igloo]

& you also did the right thing by choosing to check this, instead of simply relying on the bar stats

[bright dragon]

Is a good general rule of thumb to always put OWC laser on ARs? I play mostly TDM

[austere igloo]

That chart reflects the stats far more accurately

[austere igloo]

Well, if you’re playing respawns then yea

[ocean narwhal]

for flex ARs and respawns yeah

[bright dragon]

Only difference of course is the laser since that’s all I changed on the 2

[austere igloo]

But for some, they just don’t like using lasers

[ocean narwhal]

i wouldnt use laser on slower builds since u will be holding lanes mostly

[austere igloo]

Yea

[ocean narwhal]

it will reveal ur position just like snipers

[austere igloo]

Besides, icr is meant to be a passive gun, not an aggro one

[keen gazelle]

do yk how long 1 frame is

[austere igloo]

Yep

[ocean narwhal]

16.6666666ms at 60fps

[austere igloo]

Oh great, now we got Bryan joining the fray

[ocean narwhal]

[bright dragon]

Thanks guys! I’ll make sure to make that a staple on all ARs going forward. I used to be good at building guns in the old CODs but not so much here. Like I knew that I would always put rapid fire on my SMGs with a grip to help. Those were like staples. So I’m trying to figure out the staple attachments for AR and SMG if there is any

[austere igloo]

Do you want a icr build?

[bright dragon]

It is? I rush with it because for me it seems to kill so fast and with no recoil

[austere igloo]

Compared to ARs like kilo, m13, ak117 & ffar, it kills slower

[ocean narwhal]

the time to kill is on the slower side

[austere igloo]

Because of slower fire rate

Heck, icr fires even slower than the m4

Def a passive gun

[austere igloo]

In cqc icr loses out because of that reason

[bright dragon]

I really want to like the M13 because I feel that would be what I’m looking for for my rushing play style with that fire rate but I’m not sure of best build for rushing

[austere igloo]

It’s not an AR meant to rush

[ocean narwhal]

ffar is similar to m13 but much better for cqc

[austere igloo]

You’re better off using ffar to rush instead of m13 anyway

[ocean narwhal]

u might like that one

[austere igloo]

It has better ttk than m13

[ocean narwhal]

fu far

ffffffar

[austere igloo]

Ofc versatility wise, m13 is the go-to, but if you’re looking to rush, ffar shld be yr first choice

[bright dragon]

Really? I have tried it but that recoil is tough. What build would you recommend? I love to rush so any guns that are good rushing guns let me know! I did get Halloween AK but I’m guessing it’s not a rushing gun but it’s so cool

[narrow glen]

@bright dragon, 13 Server Rank

[ocean narwhal]

build if u need

[austere igloo]

In fact, even ak117 isn’t a bad choice either

[bright dragon]

I was loving this one a lot but I felt the fire rate wasn’t helping me. What build do you have for this one to rush?

[bright dragon]

Thank you! I’ll build this one now

[austere igloo]

If you want, swap out the perk for owc laser

[ocean narwhal]

i can never use an aggresive ak117 build

[austere igloo]

Why not

[ocean narwhal]

the recoil is gae

[austere igloo]

Ah yes, random ahh recoil

[ocean narwhal]

[austere igloo]

[bright dragon]

This control though, does it make it hard to win medium range battles? It probably isn’t winning long range

[ocean narwhal]

u can build it for long range

can change rds to fmj or smth

[bright dragon]

Here’s my current build for it

I normally don’t run anything on ammo because it doesn’t add any stats to the gun. I know it adds ammo but I don’t feel I normally need extra in most fights and I would rather get more control on it

What build do you guys have for the AK47? can it be used to rush? I really wanna use pumpkin skin

[austere igloo]

Ext light barrel would be better for increased mobility

& that’s a risky move not having an extended mag bcoz ak117 eats thru ammo like a truck

[austere igloo]

Only for br, bcoz that’s where it’s more viable

Not for mp though, ak’s not great in mp

[bright dragon]

Ah man is it because of low fire rate?

I guess the one legendary I got might never see play

[austere igloo]

That, & that there are much better & more viable options than ak

At most, it’s a flex ar

[bright dragon]

Ah man I picked the worst one probably out of the 4 that were available

[austere igloo]

Here’s my icr build

If you want it

[bright dragon]

I checked that light barrel and it makes all 3 of these stats go down a lot for just mobility. Is mobility one of the most important stats in the game? I feel people want that the most.

[austere igloo]

In mp mobility is quite important if you’re rushing

Because you don’t wanna be lagging behind to kill someone

[bright dragon]

Thank you! It’s sucks this gun you can’t rush with but I’ve been using it for that and I feel it’s been good

[ruby iris]

Mobility is overrated

[austere igloo]

No biggies, icr is definitely a satisfying gun to kill with

Just a shame that many other ars outshine this gun in many aspects

[ruby iris]

Just camp lol

[austere igloo]

I camp but only with pkm

[austere igloo]

The ultimate camper’s build

[bright dragon]

I’m going to try out the FFAR from your guys recommendations and see how it goes.

[austere igloo]

[bright dragon]

Any SMGs that can actually compete with these ARs? I feel I haven’t really found one because so many of them have bad recoil

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

Why use fmj when disable is a thing?

[ruby iris]

Wallbang

[austere igloo]

Pdw, gks

[ruby iris]

Duh

[bright dragon]

Question how come you don’t use the 19.5 reinforced heavy? It will still make the range 58 and you’ll only lose 3 points in mobility compared to the 19.5 task force that will make you lose 10 points in control and 3 points in accuracy while only giving you 3 more points in mobility

[austere igloo]

Task force has more bullet speed & better body dmg multis, which can affect ttk (which is very important for rusher type weapons)

Moreover, reinforced heavy kills your strafe speed by 20%, which is bad

Strafe speed is an important aspect of building ARs

Because you don’t wanna be bogged down while aiming down & shooting

[bright dragon]

So there’s more to it then seeing the stats go up and down, which is why it’s better to see the detailed view

[austere igloo]

Exactly, which is why bar stats are not 100% accurate

[strong monolith]

Never
And I mean never look at the bars

[narrow glen]

@strong monolith, 6 Server Rank

[bright dragon]

Got it so always do detailed view, what are the most important stats to pay attention to in detailed view?

[austere igloo]

Got the m249

[strong monolith]

Bullet spread, ADS movement speed, mag size, damage range
I prioritise these

In the context of building the guns ofc

[austere igloo]

Basically all the stuff circled in red

[ruby iris]

Why cant we convert the m249 to the m249 para?

L devs

[tired grove]

What do you mean?

[bright dragon]

Thank you guys I’ll play around with it!

[tired grove]

Huh?

[ruby iris]

M249 para

[tired grove]

[ruby iris]

Short barrel and collapsible stock

[tired grove]

What is para?

[ruby iris]

Paratrooper

[tired grove]

Oh

[ruby iris]

We have the barrel but not the stock

[unreal gale]

my gosh my ranked lobbies are sweaty

why can't they just match me with nubs

[tawny walrus]

I have the same question.

I hate SBMM.

[tired grove]

I have the same question why M249 does not have any stock

[bright dragon]

Why is the M4 so popular this season or has it always been a popular choice? Is it a rushing AR?

[unreal gale]

NA anyone down to stack?

[tawdry vault]

Im down rn, I got all night

[tawdry vault]

Its been popular recently because of the temp Thermal Shroud leggy

Mine just ran out, but its satisfying

[bright dragon]

Is it actually a good gun though?

[tawdry vault]

Yes

[bright dragon]

Does anyone have any good 3 finger layouts? So many times I push the shoot button with my pointer finger and either it doesn’t shoot or sometimes it stops shooting. This is my setup, I use my thumbs to move and to rotate the screen. Even with my shoot button that big sometimes I’ll click it with my pointer and it just doesn’t respond. It’s so frustrating

[ocean narwhal]

look somewhere else other than ur screen then tap ur index

see where it is and put the button there

or turn off accidental touch if it is on

[bright dragon]

Is this just not a good setup?

[ocean narwhal]

if it suits u then its good

if it doesnt then its bad

[rich arch]

Snipers, watch out!

[upbeat kayak]

anyone has a s36 build for mp snd?

[tawdry vault]

I just use the deathly gaze blueprint with mono on it; works fine for me

[rich arch]

Suppressive fire!

[bright dragon]

Anyone have a good rushing krig build for TDM

[tawdry vault]

I will not gib Dr. H

[ocean narwhal]

gay shotgun noobs

[tawdry vault]

This message will be deleted because it isn't a gunsmith image

[ocean narwhal]

🤓

[tawdry vault]

Im not lying

Its not supposed to be sent here

[ocean narwhal]

ik but why would i care

[tawdry vault]

You should care when you start getting dms about it

[ocean narwhal]

doesnt hurt me if it gets deleted

still malding from an argument that happened 7 weeks ago

[tired grove]

Sniper Eliminated

[rich arch]

Is this a full top 5k lobby, wtf

Matchmaking 🔥🔥

[pale ferry]

The AK is pretty good in BR and it's top 20 in MP. It's not bad by any means

[narrow glen]

@pale ferry, 6 Server Rank

[unreal gale]

Top 20 💀

[tawdry vault]

Bro took an entire business day to respond

[unreal gale]

Also it's definitely not top 20

[pale ferry]

I can outgun the Krig which is top 15 🤣

[unreal gale]

There's so many things wrong with what you said just then that I'm just gonna pretend you didn't say anything

[austere igloo]

using a garbage gun well doesn't make the gun not garbage

[pale ferry]

The only gun that sucks, is the Pharo.

Every other gun is decent.

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

oh really?

[tawdry vault]

This means that you think that the na-45 is good

[austere igloo]

then try to reach grandmaster rank using only the nailgun

[pale ferry]

No thanks.

[austere igloo]

since you say every other gun is decent

[pale ferry]

Yes.

[austere igloo]

why? you said every other gun except Pharo is decent

[tawdry vault]

[austere igloo]

so that includes nailgun, yes?

go on, do it

[pale ferry]

Cuz I'm in Legendary 10K+ Ranked points

[austere igloo]

ok now go get a nuke with the nailgun only

no attachments

[pale ferry]

I don't play HP

[austere igloo]

& no deaths

[austere igloo]

skill issue

[pale ferry]

SnD takes more skill than HP

[austere igloo]

use nailgun only in snd, no attachments, no deaths & no weapon switching

no lethals either

[pale ferry]

U have to weapon swap, tf u mean

[austere igloo]

use only nailgun to win

[austere igloo]

aside from that

[pale ferry]

U said no weapon swaps, therefore it's physically impossible to do 🤷🏼‍♂️

[austere igloo]

I'd like to see you dominate with the nailgun

in snd

[pale ferry]

I'm focused on the Bruen rn.

[austere igloo]

what's the matter? You don't think you could pull off a nailgun clutch in snd?

[tawdry vault]

You chicken?

[narrow glen]

@tawdry vault, 32 Server Rank

[pale ferry]

I could, I just don't want to. There is no reason when I have a primary I could use 🤷🏼‍♂️

[austere igloo]

Mr "I use the ak47 better & beat krig users, therefore ak47 is better" man

@tawdry vault this guy

[tawdry vault]

Ikr

[pale ferry]

If u think I'm bad at the game, I used the Branson Barrel ASM to get top 5K 3 seasons ago

[austere igloo]

ok and?

[pale ferry]

Branson Barrel sucks

[tawdry vault]

Oh, shiver me timbers, you're so special

[austere igloo]

how does that prove the gun isn't shit?

[tawdry vault]

Anyone can do that

[austere igloo]

lol

obviously branson barrel sucks because it got nerfed

[pale ferry]

It's always sucked, tf u mean

[tawdry vault]

If every gun is so good, try and clutch a 1v5 with ksp

[austere igloo]

not before it was nerfed

[pale ferry]

I was #26 Global KSP at one point. Done it 5 times.

[austere igloo]

no no, use swordfish

[austere igloo]

#26 only? why not higher?

[pale ferry]

Aced 4 times with it

[austere igloo]

[pale ferry]

No point in pushing. Not worth it.

[austere igloo]

we get it, you're skilled

[tawdry vault]

Hm, if you seriously think that you're god, clutch a 1v5 with the D13

[austere igloo]

but just because you're skilled with the gun, doesn't automatically mean the gun is better

[pale ferry]

U don't even have 5 Disks to use. Not possible

[austere igloo]

no sane person would do this

unless they're a masochist

[tawdry vault]

Who said you needed five

[tawdry vault]

Then lets make him one

See if he can really make any gun god tier

[pale ferry]

Never said I could make it God tier

[narrow glen]

@pale ferry, 7 Server Rank

[tawdry vault]

Oh, but it seems to me as if every gun you touch is goated with the sauce

[austere igloo]

anyway

the point is

ak47 isn't better than the krig

[pale ferry]

Most guns are viable in Ranked. U just need to find the right map, build and team coordination for it to work.

[austere igloo]

it doesn't matter how skilled you are

[austere igloo]

all 3 of those things are incredibly rare to find in codm

[tawdry vault]

I think this guy can't win with the d13

[unreal gale]

Ooo why didnt you tag me @austere igloo

[austere igloo]

I didn't wanna disturb your convo in the other channel

[pale ferry]

I got it Damascus, not using it unless it gets buffed.

[unreal gale]

Ak47 is for sure not top 20

[tawdry vault]

Good for you, you gave a shitty gun a shitty camo

[unreal gale]

And krig is not just a top 15 💀

[pale ferry]

Then tell me what the top 20 are

[austere igloo]

heck, top 20 doesn't even make sense in the context of codm

[unreal gale]

There's 20 💀

[austere igloo]

top & 20 don't even go together in codm

[unreal gale]

Let's say it was rank 95. You're gonna make me list the 94 that come before it?

[pale ferry]

If u think the AK isn't top 20, then tell me what u think the top 20 are. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[unreal gale]

Ak is probably mid 40s

Alr then, let's go

[austere igloo]

I don't know if you've watched path.exe...but whenever they talk about "top-tier" guns...they never reach after 10

[unreal gale]

Kilo, lk, Grau, hvk, cbr

[haughty bluff]

Famas

[unreal gale]

Switchblade, drh, m13, fennec, dlq

[pale ferry]

Do it in Order

[austere igloo]

it stops at top 10

there's no top 20

[unreal gale]

Holger, hades, chopper, UL, sks

[tawdry vault]

You never mix 20 and top when it comes to codm

Thats 15, so far, sunny

[austere igloo]

heck, I don't even think you'd mix 15 with top

[unreal gale]

I can't even think of 20 guns off the top of my head lol

[tawdry vault]

Well, you have just five more slots

[austere igloo]

ok wait so we have the ones so far

[ocean narwhal]

top 11 is not meta already

[unreal gale]

Bk, ak117, ppsh, cordite, razorback, pdw

[haughty bluff]

[tawdry vault]

Thats 21, sunny

[unreal gale]

Locus, koshka, spr,

[tawdry vault]

24

[unreal gale]

Dude literally M4 is better

[austere igloo]

kilo141, lk24, grau, hvk, cbr, holger, hades, chopper, ul, sks, ak117, ppsh, cordite, razorback, pdw, locus, koshka, spr

[tawdry vault]

25

[austere igloo]

is that better?

[pale ferry]

That's not in order

[ocean narwhal]

ppsh cordite not meta

[unreal gale]

Maddox

[tawdry vault]

I feel like gks should be sittin in a top list

[ocean narwhal]

u cant put them in order bruh they have different roles

[austere igloo]

bro is asking about "top 20" guns in codm

[unreal gale]

We're just listing guns better than Ak47 in mp

[ocean narwhal]

bru

[austere igloo]

so we're giving it to him

as if top 20 is even a thing in codm

[tawdry vault]

Want to know something better than the 47? A fork

[austere igloo]

nah, a sandal would be

[ocean narwhal]

bros asking for smth that is irrelvant and nonsensical

[austere igloo]

[unreal gale]

Swordfish is better than Ak47

[tawdry vault]

Actually, make it a dull toothpick

[unreal gale]

M16

[austere igloo]

basically, this server, in a nutshell

[tawdry vault]

A dull toothpick is better than the 47

[ocean narwhal]

fr

[unreal gale]

Qq9

Qxr, mx9

[austere igloo]

sunny just listing off every gun he think of

[unreal gale]

Think I'm on like 35

[austere igloo]

holy shit

[tawdry vault]

The m4 is light years from the ak, and its the starter gun

[unreal gale]

Ots9 or whatever it's called

Cx9

Dingo

[austere igloo]

it's the correct one

[austere igloo]

uhhh u sure dingo is better than the ak?

[unreal gale]

Dude dingo is pretty good

I tried it the other day, kinda strong

[austere igloo]

I feel it's so inferior

damage wise

[unreal gale]

But it has big mag

[ocean narwhal]

sks ul736 kilo141 grau lk24 ffar pdw sbx9 cx9 hvk30

[tawdry vault]

Dingo vs ak is debatable

[ocean narwhal]

top 10

[unreal gale]

You forgot hvk 💀

[ocean narwhal]

oh fuck

[unreal gale]

Kick out cbr

[tawdry vault]

Replace with m13 or smth

[unreal gale]

Holger is better than cx9 I think

[ocean narwhal]

ok thats top10

[unreal gale]

But that's just me

Oh fennec

[pale ferry]

No it's not

[ocean narwhal]

cx9 is better than fennec

[unreal gale]

Really?

[ocean narwhal]

yeah

[pale ferry]

Holger is top 8, CX9 is top 5

[unreal gale]

I don't like cx9

[ocean narwhal]

more consistent 4 taps

same range

[unreal gale]

You think krig is 15 so please dont start going specific number

[ocean narwhal]

fennec only wins if they hit all stomach and above

[austere igloo]

I don't even think krig is 15 tier

[ocean narwhal]

holger aint meta anymore

[austere igloo]

prolly 13-12 tier

[pale ferry]

The only reason u never see it is cuz of the terrible irons

[unreal gale]

These lists are so arbitrary

[ocean narwhal]

no its because there are better guns

[austere igloo]

allow me to introduce something called: optics

[unreal gale]

It big time depends how you play

[austere igloo]

yep

[tawdry vault]

Im still standing by my true statement: a bent, dull toothpick is better than the 47

[ocean narwhal]

called GRAU

[pale ferry]

Every other top 10 gun doesn't need an optic, the Krig does.

[ocean narwhal]

grau just obliterated krig from the meta

[unreal gale]

I have the mythic

[austere igloo]

so...you're saying a gun needs to not have an optic in order to be in top 10??

[unreal gale]

Krig was always mid imo because of the aimshake

[pale ferry]

I never said that

[unreal gale]

But hey, sync fov solved it entirely

[ocean narwhal]

welcome to reticle shake

[unreal gale]

Non existent on sync fov

[austere igloo]

because the way you phrased it here made it sound it like krig needs an optic to be in top 10

[ocean narwhal]

oh mythic doesnt have it

only red dots

[austere igloo]

none do

[unreal gale]

Nah mythic has crazy shake too

You literally can't focus on what you're aiming at

[ocean narwhal]

krig and mk9 has stupid reticle shake

[austere igloo]

I've stolen other ppl's mythic krig & it has very little shake

[pale ferry]

It needs a better iron sight to be honest

[unreal gale]

I haven't tried mk9

[ocean narwhal]

jumps like crazy

[unreal gale]

But that sucks

Chopper has the same issue

[pale ferry]

Worse version of SPR

[austere igloo]

I agree, but the requirement of an optic is not a determinant for whether a gun should be in top 10

[unreal gale]

Mk9 is a lmg 💀

[pale ferry]

It helps if a gun has good irons so u don't need to waste an attachment slot.

[unreal gale]

Wait really? I thought the extra attachment makes the gun worse

[pale ferry]

Bruen is a more accurate Chopper

[unreal gale]

Because need to swap for a heavier attachment

[pale ferry]

I'm LB Bruen also

[unreal gale]

Wait, who?

[ocean narwhal]

not

[austere igloo]

m249 is a more accurate chopper???

[pale ferry]

It literally is, I would know and so does every major YouTuber

[austere igloo]

"every major Youtuber"

[ruby iris]

I mean
You can stack bsa on mk9 more efficiently

[austere igloo]

dude I wonder where you're even getting your info from

[pale ferry]

Bobby

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

if you're getting information from Youtubers that's not path.exe...you're doing it wrong

[austere igloo]

LMAO

[ocean narwhal]

whats the point when its the slowest thing in the game, snipers combined

[austere igloo]

Now I see why you have the opinions you do

[pale ferry]

Who is that?

[austere igloo]

go look them up

[pale ferry]

Nah

[austere igloo]

I don't have anything more to say to you blud

[pale ferry]

Sure

[ruby iris]

Not the slowest, since you can use the same build, but on pkm

[ocean narwhal]

"every major youtuber" probably referring to the trash builds from ferg etc

[austere igloo]

if you're getting your info from Bobby of all folks...yea...I see no reason to continue discussing this matter

[ocean narwhal]

bro probably uses the bar stats

[austere igloo]

fr

[pale ferry]

Ferg sucks.

[ocean narwhal]

everyone knows that

[pale ferry]

I make my own builds

[ocean narwhal]

so ur a major youtuber?

25 subs

[austere igloo]

Mate, you just told us you get your info about guns from Bobby...& now you say ferg sucks...like

Who's gonna tell him?

[pale ferry]

I borrow a YT'ers build if I never used the gun before and then I modify it for it to fit my play style

[narrow glen]

@pale ferry, 8 Server Rank

[ocean narwhal]

ON GODD

[austere igloo]

I can't be the only one who sees the problem with that

[austere igloo]

does he even hear himself?

or rather, see himself

[unreal gale]

Ferg actually uses good builds now

[austere igloo]

does he?

[unreal gale]

Yeah

He runs standard meta

[austere igloo]

I haven't watched that guy since 2020

[unreal gale]

Last time I checked at least

[pale ferry]

That's why Ferg sucks 🤷🏼‍♂️

[austere igloo]

and when was that last time?

[unreal gale]

His aim is really good

[ruby iris]

Prolly taken from stat mfs

[unreal gale]

Maybe last year

[austere igloo]

so according to NoName...standard meta = suck

[unreal gale]

Yeah. Definitely

[ocean narwhal]

from your video from 3 days ago i can say that your skill is inconsequential compared to ferg

[unreal gale]

Which is why they're good now

[austere igloo]

wait until he sees what the Chinese CODM players consider meta

[ocean narwhal]

look at his latest video bruh

[unreal gale]

Incomparable?

[ocean narwhal]

he is ASSS

[pale ferry]

If u need to use meta to get kills then you have a skill issue on its own, good cod players don't need meta guns to get kills and rank up

[unreal gale]

Where's the Facepalm emote

[pale ferry]

I play thumbs and I'm still better than some claw players.

[unreal gale]

Where is it, I need it rn

[ocean narwhal]

nope

[unreal gale]

Emergency request to add Facepalm emote

[ocean narwhal]

yall look at his latest video

he is dogpoop

[unreal gale]

Ah here

[austere igloo]

while I do partially agree with that...

the point you've been making is that using bad guns well mean the guns themselves are no longer bad

[ocean narwhal]

click on his yt channel under his profile and just watch the latest video

and look at what he said about ferg

[pale ferry]

I used the Pharo for 3 days straight to get it to Master, I can tell u, that it sucks, but if u can control recoil. Then it's not bad.

[ocean narwhal]

"ferg sucks"

[unreal gale]

"good cod players don't need meta guns to get kills and rank up"

[narrow glen]

@unreal gale, 70 Server Rank

[ocean narwhal]

at least he shoots straight

[austere igloo]

& also, guns in top 10 must not require an optic to even be in top 10

[unreal gale]

"good cod players don't need meta guns to get kills and rank up"

[ruby iris]

Lol
Worse than drae fr

[unreal gale]

Lmao. What are you, master 4?

[ruby iris]

Rookie 4

[austere igloo]

I mean...technically he isn't completely wrong...but he's also not completely right either

[ruby iris]

[pale ferry]

I'm in Legendary 10K+ points and I'm a BR main :/

[austere igloo]

[unreal gale]

If you're the type of player to clown people for using meta guns, and use that as some kinda excuse, you're literally a troll

[unreal gale]

Wow!

10k+?

[ocean narwhal]

wow!

[austere igloo]

How many times are you legendary?

I'm curious

[ocean narwhal]

i swear we get people like this everyday

[pale ferry]

18

[unreal gale]

That's like... My 5th account. Oh wait no, my 5th is on 11k 💀

[pale ferry]

I actually have a life

[unreal gale]

I do too. Just don't lose lol

[austere igloo]

damn, you've been playing for a lot

just like me

[ruby iris]

Tbh
Skills can only get you so far, once you hit your personal skill ceiling, the only way to improve is to have a better setup

Better device, better loadouts etc...

[ocean narwhal]

defending smth nobody attempted to attack

[austere igloo]

hate to admit it, but he's right

[unreal gale]

Choosing to use a shit gun doesn't make you some hero lol

[austere igloo]

^^^

[unreal gale]

You just chose a shit gun so deal with it

The people who roll you roll you because they're better than you. It because they use grau

[ocean narwhal]

this is the part where he just gets constantly roasted

[austere igloo]

ranking up is no longer about who uses what gun

it's about winning

[pale ferry]

What was the highest on MP LB u ever got?

[austere igloo]

10k?

[ocean narwhal]

imagine thinking that matters

[unreal gale]

Aren't you NA west?

[ocean narwhal]

im in gaerena

[unreal gale]

Oh rip nvm

[austere igloo]

but what does that have to do with our discussion, again?

[unreal gale]

Was gonna stack with

[ruby iris]

I use shit gun cuz im good

Vs

I use shit gun cuz it's actually good

[austere igloo]

scores on LB is not an indicator of skill lol

[ocean narwhal]

changing the subject to evade the argument!!1!1!1!

[ruby iris]

Pick your poison

[pale ferry]

Just a question 🤷🏼‍♂️

[unreal gale]

Sync fov makes a bunch of mid guns pretty good ngl

[austere igloo]

it's just an indicator that you play alot

[austere igloo]

an irrelevant question, but ok

[unreal gale]

Uhh, well if you're top lb, you definitely need to be good

You literally lose like 50% more than you gain as mvp once you're past 20k

So you need a pretty high win rate to keep climbing

[ruby iris]

Most ppl only play til like 10k

[austere igloo]

I discovered that firsthand when I reached 10k pts

you lose more than you gain

[unreal gale]

Think my PB was 27k

That season was bloody tough

Esepcially the second half

[ruby iris]

What meta?

[unreal gale]

You literally stop gaining anything

[unreal gale]

Uhh, cbr?

Idk what the meta was but I used cbr

This was pre nerf

[ruby iris]

you know how little that narrows it down?

[unreal gale]

Lol

[austere igloo]

oh yea, the guy realized he wasn't winning here so he went to the other channel @unreal gale

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

[unreal gale]

💀

[little bison]

is this build good? it only deals 3700 dmg i know there are builds with 10k+ dmg but this is for mobility and rushing.

[unreal gale]

Uhh what are you talking about

It only deals 3700 damage? I'll take a gun that deals 3700 damage any day

[little bison]

im asking if the nailgun build is good

[unreal gale]

You're trolling right

[little bison]

of course

[unreal gale]

Oh you're cat

[little bison]

buh

[unreal gale]

Nvm

[little bison]

trash weapon users after getting 30 kills on a bot ranked lobby be like:

[austere igloo]

nailgun bv buff when

gimme 300m/s bv

[little bison]

nailgun nerf when? too op fr

[austere igloo]

250m/s bv is op, apparently

[little bison]

it needs 1m/s bv (m means miles)

i wonder if i can put any other attachment other than a rds

[unreal gale]

mi is miles btw

[little bison]

i know how it works guy im making a joke

[unreal gale]

What's a joke?

[little bison]

[pale ferry]

Gn yall, it's 630 am for me.

[ocean narwhal]

no wonder it feels so bad

[austere igloo]

Exactly

[patent lodge]

Any cx9 build meta?

[hidden eagle]

I need 4 players who will join my team for multi-player battle in the next two hours ,dm me

[digital needle]

Reddot on the best ironsight in the game really ?

[eternal idol]

Grau gunsmith ?

[tawny walrus]

• Tactical suppressor
• Archangel barrel
• No stock
• 50 magazine
• Cronen sniper elite grip

[quaint temple]

Best build for Bruen MK9
Pls

[narrow glen]

@quaint temple, 9 Server Rank

[quaint temple]

I will appreciate

Hello anyone online

??

[eternal idol]

Keeping this and moving the aim button. Suggestions required.

@austere igloo @vale lichen

[tawny isle]

got you

[tawny walrus]

No stock to full ammo perk.

[tawny isle]

or disable

not my build btw

@eternal idol

[tired grove]

Tactical Suppressor
FSS 20.8 Nexus/Archangel Barrel
50 Round Mags
OWC Laser Tactical
Cronsen Sniper Elite

[tawny isle]

better view

[bright dragon]

With this type of view with the move button on the left and the fire button on the right that means you would be using your thumbs for those 2 buttons but what about rotating the screen to look around?

Best ARs and SMGs for rushing?

Help me make this gun work! Any good gunsmiths?

[agile wedge]

Why can’t I post a picture on here

Pm me you’re best clips so I can shout you out on TikTok

[fleet merlin]

I can’t post picture anywhere

[tired grove]

Ranger Barrel
No Stock
OWC Laser Tactical
40 Round Extended Mag
Granulated Grip Tape

Or

MIP Barrel (Short)
OWC Skeleton Stock
OWC Laser Tactical
40 Round Extended Mag
Granulated Grip Tape

[bright dragon]

Thank you!

[bright dragon]

Which one of these is better for rushing? Trying to make it a rushing weapon

[rich arch]

Rush B

[bright dragon]

What are the rushing ARs?

[tawny isle]

i use my right index for rotation

[bright dragon]

Isn’t it hard to do a full circle with index finger though? I would so much rather use my thumb for shooting because with my index finger a lot of the time I don’t even click the shoot and I get killed.

[silver current]

Mk2 build with and without scope? So like 2 builds?

[vestal rampart]

Grau, m13, ffar and ak117 are the main ones rn

M16 rapid fire honorable mention

[bright dragon]

No krig?

[bright dragon]

Rushing Grau build?

[rigid swan]

oden gunsmith for snd but not to camp

[bright dragon]

Here’s my Grau and Krig with attachments and I’m not sure why the Krig wouldn’t be considered a rushing weapon. The grau isn’t outperforming the krig by much at all

[vestal rampart]

This this my build I use for respawns short - mid range it’s defo not the conventional one but it works really nice with gung ho and dauntless if ur aggressive

[bright dragon]

Only think is no suppressor? Other than that it looks good because if you get into there spawn with no suppressor they’ll find you

[narrow glen]

@bright dragon, 14 Server Rank

[vestal rampart]

I prefer emergency hipfire and being able to shoot through stuff then silence

Maybe since I’m constantly moving around

[coral adder]

whats the best gun as of rn and whats the best build

[vestal rampart]

but I guess u could swap either of those for tactical supp but then I can’t vouch for it any more

Might not even be good without gung ho

[bright dragon]

I don’t think I have that park

[coral adder]

whats the beat loadout for hvk

[bright dragon]

This is what I’ve been using

It’s been really good for rushing

[tacit kindle]

I cant post pictures but my best grau class is
arcangel barrel for the ironsights
No stock
50 round mag
Tac laser
granulated grip

[vestal rampart]

Ok in that case use this then it’s the popular aggro build, swap the grip to laser if you don’t care about being visible. Also change to 50 round mag

[tacit kindle]

Just usevit and testbit for yourself

[vestal rampart]

I’m not sure so waiting for someone else sorry

[coral adder]

what about perks?

[vestal rampart]

It definitely needs large calibre mag though

[vestal rampart]

It depends on how you play, I rush and play respawns so like using dauntless gung ho and hardline atm

[bright dragon]

Is it for rushing? This one has been doing really well for rushing for me

[bright dragon]

My build is able to beat all stats on this one other than range but I’m doing close to medium range and it’s been killing fast. I’m constantly rushing so it’s very rare I’m in a long range fight but even then it does well

[vestal rampart]

Those green colours are meaningless don’t get hung up on them

[coral adder]

that describes me as well

[digital needle]

Oden

[vestal rampart]

Being in red doesn’t matter when the base stat is good enough, it’s somewhat complicated at first

[digital needle]

( I'm not joking. It's the most broken gun in Codm history)

[coral adder]

rn?

[vestal rampart]

Duplex oden OP

[digital needle]

Yep

Both MP& BR

[coral adder]

i keep seeing hvk

[narrow glen]

@coral adder, 6 Server Rank

[vestal rampart]

With gold long shot feels like cheating

[coral adder]

the oden?

[vestal rampart]

Yh hvk good, I don’t use it much myself though

[vestal rampart]

Yh lol

[coral adder]

i mean, ive been using the hvk and it feels good but idk if its the best for me

[vestal rampart]

It’s like 4 shots to kill with max armour on br or something like that

[coral adder]

my main gun is cbr4 but i dont want to use an smg and feels worse aome reason

[vestal rampart]

Yh it got nerfed recently

[coral adder]

can i have the build for oden?

[vestal rampart]

I use this

[coral adder]

k

what would be the best killstreaks to use

[vestal rampart]

I like predator sentry and stealth chopper

predator good to clear groups and campers also for clearing enemy sentry, Goliath, Sam turret and stealth chopper

[coral adder]

so stealth chopper, sentry, and predator?

[vestal rampart]

Yh

[coral adder]

do i use goliath or no

[hollow panther]

i mean

it can be of value ig if played good

[tawny isle]

i have 300 sens 💀

[eternal idol]

Uh no.

[umbral obsidian]

#┃server-media-passes

[ornate jackal]

Its hit or miss

U need like ghost perk to not get boomed by predator missile

[real crescent]

Is this the best Epic skin 🤔

[hollow panther]

Cosmos exists

[digital needle]

There's no M13 cosmos

[clear bough]

There is

Let bro cook

[ruby iris]

There isnt

Dark matter

Not cosmos

Cosmos is green

[clear bough]

Oh right

Never owned a cosmos except the outlaw that i never use

[leaden pike]

Not the cbr4

[severe shard]

an94 build?

or ig rate

[clear bough]

Fuck cbr4s

[severe shard]

nvm cant post image

[leaden pike]

Yeah Ik it’s horrid but you would have the cbr4 cosmos

[clear bough]

I forgot about it's existance

[severe shard]

tac sup, mark bar, 40rd, gran, no stock
Any changes to be done?

[ruby iris]

Nope

No stock could be flinch stock for bsa and flinch

But it would be slow

[severe shard]

perk recc?
I use shoulker - r
Adrenline - g
alert or hardL - b

[severe shard]

talk about - 20% ADS 💀

[ruby iris]

Use pinpoint imo

[severe shard]

i dont use aim assit, better than high alert blue perk?

[ruby iris]

Meanwhile:

[ruby iris]

Ye

Free info

[severe shard]

i use a shitty short - mid lk24 so i cant related 😂

[severe shard]

meanwhile lmg players

[vale lichen]

Global top 100💀

intense pkm spam

[severe shard]

used to be top 30 global for lk24 but quit for like 2 months :/

[austere igloo]

Not even close

[vale lichen]

Convergent

[tawdry vault]

That stained glass one is neat, but definitely not best

[austere igloo]

laughs in m13 covert canopy

[eternal idol]

This is mine. Will be was after I get urs :3 @dusty heart

[tawdry vault]

The one I sent you is viable as well

Most people I've seen(a lot of people play codm at my school) use a similar one to mine

[dusty heart]

That’s a pubg hud lol

[slender light]

Is 5 fingers hud good for sniping??

[hollow panther]

Yea

[unreal gale]

WHOAH

yeah that's amazing

[unreal gale]

no silencer?

[clear bough]

Can anybody cook the Kilo 141?

[tawny walrus]

Huh?

[tawdry vault]

I need a quickscope for locus

Because my current build is far to slow

[leaden pike]

Just full ads

Maybe add a mono sup if you really think it need more range which it doesn’t instead of the light sup (must have a sup) or mag of ur not wantin laser

[short ginkgo]

I'm gonna post now on the gunsmithing builds check it out it's really good with fast scopes

[keen gazelle]

never add mono for sniping

theyre never needed, even for the outlaw

[eternal idol]

@dusty heart just tried to put ur code...

😂

Everything is extra large so buttons are not even visible lmao. I keep making mistakes changing the size, so I have to be very careful while reducing the size.

[short ginkgo]

Fr

[tawny walrus]

I’m using it for XPR.

[austere igloo]

Why would you?

Xpr has enough range

Tactical supp would serve the same purpose with no penalties

[tawny walrus]

To extend range.

[ocean narwhal]

mono is necessary on xpr

[tired grove]

True

[austere igloo]

Is it really?

I’ve been using tac supp on xpr all this while & it has served me well

@unreal gale Btw I’ve tried out the BK57

Feels no different from the last time tbh

While there was an adjustment to damage range it doesn’t feel a lot better tbh

this was the build I used

[ocean narwhal]

1F ads time for 6m effective range

[clear bough]

@tired grove don't cook 🗣️🗣️

Had that build before and it was worse than my current one

My builds don't priorities ads time at all

[keen gazelle]

wait thats actually kinda good

and by kinda, i mean im a mono xpr main now

[ocean narwhal]

this thing slaps

[keen gazelle]

oh em gee we have the same build

[ocean narwhal]

damn LOL

[tired grove]

You think thats worst, but I thinl It's okay

[clear bough]

As i specified, my build is for laid back playstyles

And not rushing every few seconds

[tired grove]

Okay then, as your wish

[clear bough]

And most effective at long to medium ranges

Not that quite effective at short

Hence the slow ads time

That's what my smgs are for

Medium to short ranges

Lmgs for mostly long or camping short range

[tired grove]

Okay, okay

[clear bough]

My snipers are for camping at long range only

[tawny walrus]

I’m using FMJ.

[clear bough]

Maybe it's because we have different perks and sensitivities

[tired grove]

Maybe, I guess

[rich arch]

[wet quest]

Best KN44 gunsmith please.. for MP ranked legendary

[keen harbor]

imma send u after

[narrow glen]

@keen harbor, 10 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Mono, ranger, no stock, tac laser, 44 mag

Gunsmith police is here 🚓

2 identical builds

Mr. @plush cape you've been summoned to answer, why you upvoted the one build while you downvoted the other one

They're literally the same builds in the span of 3 days

@plush cape you have 24 hours to reply

[austere igloo]

he probably won't reply

[toxic hollow]

How can i

[peak brook]

Wrong thing fml

[austere igloo]

How can you what?

[toxic hollow]

how can i upload photo in this channel

[austere igloo]

you must have gunsmith pass to have permission to post images

[toxic hollow]

oh

[austere igloo]

here

got it? @toxic hollow

[toxic hollow]

yep

[austere igloo]

[ocean narwhal]

i mean theres only 1 or 2 builds for snipers anyway

max ads and choose between suppressor and fmj for some snipers

[ocean narwhal]

mythic and not mythic duhh

[pale ferry]

So the devs fixed the red dot bug, but they didn't fix the camo bug. That's BS

[vale lichen]

U forgot ppl only upvote based on star

[buoyant pine]

👀

[narrow glen]

@buoyant pine, 10 Server Rank

[vale lichen]

Good builds also get downvoted this way

[dusty heart]

Your phone is smaller than mine that’s why,just try to adjust everything to your liking

[rich arch]

Yeah 👍🏼

[austere igloo]

They downvote the build by putting stars?

[vale lichen]

No by downvoting the build without trying

[austere igloo]

What does that even mean?

You mean they downvote blindly?

[vale lichen]

Yes

[late pike]

I need a build for grau and agr

[austere igloo]

Isn’t that what people do here?

Downvote a build that’s not ctrl+v’d by everyone else?

[rich arch]

#codm-gunsmith-builds check the build I posted

[vale lichen]

Preciously lol

[late pike]

Got it thx

[austere igloo]

You mean precisely?

[vale lichen]

Yes

[austere igloo]

[vale lichen]

[austere igloo]

But yea, that’s what ppl do here

They downvote the build blindly without even trying it out first

[vale lichen]

Local keyword has no auto correction

[austere igloo]

But then again, given the hive mentality that exists here…

[vale lichen]

Meta builds farming stars

[austere igloo]

Any build that’s not ctrl+v’d will basically receive downvotes

[austere igloo]

Not just meta builds, the “universally accepted” ones

[dusty heart]

My builds hardly get downvotes whenever I post,so obviously I’m the star

[vale lichen]

I won't share by personal build here ever

[austere igloo]

Basically all the ctrl+v’d “standard” builds

[austere igloo]

[dusty heart]

I share my personal builds all the time

[austere igloo]

No downvotes at all everytime?

[dusty heart]

My recent one was steady stock on qq9

[vale lichen]

Sus then😂

[vale lichen]

I am surprised actually

Ppl always downvote build without no stock with qq9

[austere igloo]

Your cx9 mythic got downvotes, Tomoko

[vale lichen]

Then i read your text

[austere igloo]

[pale ferry]

Idk who wanted the Grau build, but imma put a more agro build when I can.

[vale lichen]

[dusty heart]

Oh yeah most people prefer aggro builds for guns like cx9

I play passive with any gun

[austere igloo]

Your mythic krig & hades builds also had downvotes

[tawny walrus]

This one always gets me.

He downvoted my build, only because everyone disliked his.

[vale lichen]

Krig only has 1 universally approved build i won't blame tomo

[austere igloo]

Guess the “I never get downvotes on my personal builds” part isn’t true then, Tomoko

Bcoz there’re a couple of your builds with them

[vale lichen]

Lol

[tawny walrus]

Eh, Krig has many builds.

[dusty heart]

Yeah idk some people just downvote without thinking,those builds got 25+ stars anyways

[austere igloo]

Not that it matters anyway

[vale lichen]

For upvote

[austere igloo]

You have more stars than arrows pointing down anyway

[vale lichen]

[dusty heart]

Point I was trying to get out was my personal builds are quite favored

[austere igloo]

Also bcoz they’re somewhat similar to the ctrl+v’d builds

Some of our personal builds deviate from them completely

[dusty heart]

Some attachments are a necessity

[austere igloo]

Which ends up farming downward arrows

[austere igloo]

I know

[tawny walrus]

I used to post builds on one of servers and help people to build weapons a lot.

But due some reasons, I left the server.

[vale lichen]

[austere igloo]

I’m surprised Tomoko’s msmc build didn’t have downvotes

But then I realized, it’s the universal build for msmc

[tawny walrus]

I’ll post Mk9 build, since no one did.

[dusty heart]

Only a holger build I posted did bad

[vale lichen]

Chopper for me