codm-gunsmith-help

[unreal gale]

it just sets a higher standard to aim for

[tawny walrus]

Say whatever you want - I’ll never respect this weapon.

[unreal gale]

well L for you then. kinda missing out on a fun gun

[tawny walrus]

It’s miserable that it became meta once again. What a shame.

[austere igloo]

Switchblade is meta?

[unreal gale]

it's definitely smg meta

[vale lichen]

Yep

[austere igloo]

But it’s def not right on top for sure

[unreal gale]

uhh, top 5 easily

[vale lichen]

Actually i think it is in top 5

[austere igloo]

But not no.1

Top5, but not at the top

[unreal gale]

it's on par with the top tier

if you're a smg main, it's meta for you

[austere igloo]

I don’t consider switchblade to be the no.1 smg meta

[vale lichen]

Yes Qq9

[austere igloo]

At best no.2

[vale lichen]

It slaysssss

[unreal gale]

I personally think ARs are significantly better in general, but generally it's pretty up there

[austere igloo]

Switchblade’s bsa puts it behind qq9 by a slight bit

[unreal gale]

I don't think so

[austere igloo]

So yea, I’m placing it at no.2

[unreal gale]

the control and aim assist definitely ranks it higher for me

[vale lichen]

My fav gun of the season is Grau

[unreal gale]

how easy a gun is to use a huge aspect in how good it is

[austere igloo]

I think this is the case for most people

Grau is now used a lot in my server

[unreal gale]

you have cordite, which is good on paper but feels bad in game => not a good gun

[vale lichen]

YESS no recoillllll

Pin point

[unreal gale]

why does everyone use grau. I think it's pretty mid

[tired grove]

Still grau in this season 10?

[vale lichen]

Doesn't even flinch

[austere igloo]

Because it’s so easy to use

[unreal gale]

but yeah, grau is super popular

[vale lichen]

Yes

[austere igloo]

Fun gun, like u said

[unreal gale]

I think hvk LK kilo are just as easy to use and better

[tired grove]

Oh c'mon

[unreal gale]

lk and kilo are slower ig

it's just a worse hvk with a bigger mag

[austere igloo]

LK? maybe
Hvk? Eh not really
Kilo? Yea no

[vale lichen]

Hvk is kinda skill based

[unreal gale]

ehh no really

[austere igloo]

Hvk’s only viable with lc

[vale lichen]

With reduced mag size its really require better aim

[austere igloo]

Not kinda, it very skill based

[vale lichen]

LK still slays and kilo is doin ok

[austere igloo]

LK is stable but loses out in cqc

[tired grove]

My favourite weapon in this season is Nail Gun and M249 aka Bruen MK9

[austere igloo]

Kilo…nah mate

Without passive kilo, u will struggle

[vale lichen]

Nail Gun for fun

[vale lichen]

Haven't played ranked mp for a week

[austere igloo]

Nailgun bv 250m/s

Even slower than the makarov pistol

[vale lichen]

Doesn't know the exact situation of kilo

[vale lichen]

no diamond, gold for it

Something i love

[tired grove]

Well it has a bug of tiger camo it says kill with full attachment

[austere igloo]

Attachments on nail gun when

[vale lichen]

[hollow panther]

Switchblade build

Pls

[bright dragon]

So with the legendary QQ9 the sight is actually different. Normally it’s a circle but this one’s is more clean to look at. How do I get this sight or is it because it’s a legendary?

[hollow panther]

Because its a legendary

[bright dragon]

Ah man so it’s going to disappear after the 24 hours then?

[hollow panther]

Yh

Some epic skins have custom ironsights aswell which are usually clearer than the base

[bright dragon]

What are the best attachment for grau?

[narrow glen]

@bright dragon, 8 Server Rank

[mint anvil]

Monolithic suppressor
ZLR drifter barrel
OWC lazer tactical
50 round mag
FTAC rubber grip
If u don’t like ironsights then swap grip for an optic

This build will work for any range as it’s a minimalist recoil build u should combine with lightweight and dead silent perks if u know how to move it’s a great mobility build

[bright dragon]

Thank you! I just seen a video on YT he had it like this

I figured monolith suppressor would be better though. When is the tactical suppressor ever going to be better than the monolith?

[mint anvil]

I posted the better build in DMs I can’t post here

[shadow briar]

grau has more aggro potential but has more range than some smgs

[mint anvil]

Personally I find grau as the #1 AR it’s highly mobile fast ads very low recoil a deadly combo for someone who knows how to use it

[shadow briar]

oh yeah no, its damn good

not my personal fave, but i can 100% see why someone would like it

[mint anvil]

Yea I kinda like M13 a little more bc of its special mag and I try use HDR mostly for quick snipe practise but grau easily one of the best guns

Pretty sure HVK also got a nerf last season aswell

[unreal gale]

Hvk definitely has more aggro potential

[shadow briar]

i mean its the HVK lol

i havent used the icr in a while tbh

[viscid belfry]

and some skins with worse sights than base one (black gold for example)

its the perfect ar

[tawny isle]

there are better alternatives tbh

[viscid belfry]

ik but for me its the perfect ar

[shadow briar]

depends on which gun

mp5 black gold > base

[mint anvil]

It’s good not great plain and simple

[astral ocean]

best LMG guys?

[rich arch]

Sup

[umbral obsidian]

Ul chopper holgie

Idk about the new one tho

[umbral obsidian]

Sup

[rich arch]

I have a question @umbral obsidian

[umbral obsidian]

Sure

[rich arch]

Can I ping you for no reason?

[umbral obsidian]

Ask way

Sure

[rich arch]

Alright

@umbral obsidian

Thanks

[umbral obsidian]

👍

[rich arch]

Just trying to level up lol

[umbral obsidian]

Go at it

It makes me feel important

[rich arch]

[simple ledge]

ASM 10 gunsmith pls

[unreal gale]

hm

[half fulcrum]

Look gunsmith builds

[copper jacinth]

Best ak117 gunsmith for a passive agressive (balanced) playstyle?

Got the mythic so don't need scope

[bright dragon]

Best kilo 141 attachments?

[viscid belfry]

base dont need scope

[viscid belfry]

mono, ext barrel/marksman barrel, no stock, gran/tac laser, 50 mag

[bright dragon]

Thanks!

[viscid belfry]

np

[median bay]

need grau setup for ranked

i have it maxed

[viscid belfry]

tac supp, nexus barrel, no stock, gran, 60 mag

[median bay]

thx

[undone sandal]

id use archangel barrel

[umbral obsidian]

Nexus is for versatile use I think and archangel long range

Idk I use nexus

[hollow panther]

M4 thermal shroud just freels so nice

[viscid belfry]

more ads time for no difference

[undone sandal]

lmao, downplaying +17% range like it's nothing
bv difference isn't significant at all

with the build, the ads time difference isn't even 1 frame
but it's rounded to 1 frame bc of frame rounding

[tawdry vault]

M4 build?

Wanna put the Thermal Shroud to its fullest potential

[undone sandal]

mono
light short barrel
tac laser
ext mag
gran

laser to tac fg/soh

[umbral obsidian]

Mono
light short barrel
tac laser/SoH/FMJ
50 mag
Gran

[inland imp]

Best bruen build?

[shadow briar]

as a lmg or as an ar?

[inland imp]

Hybrid

[ruby iris]

Realistically

Personally

[shadow briar]

AR build

[shadow briar]

LMG build

[undone sandal]

would be great if it had good reserve ammo

60/80 is wild

[ruby iris]

Still not fixed?

[leaden pike]

How did you change ur background I can’t figure how to

[undone sandal]

prolly not getting fixed since renetti also has that issue

not being 1x / 4x

[undone sandal]

that's the background on the weapon comparison tab

[leaden pike]

Oh

[ruby iris]

Fucking

[undone sandal]

mw gunsmith be like

[ruby iris]

Why

[undone sandal]

i heard mw gunsmith has that thing where reserve ammo changes depending on mag

[ruby iris]

[tawdry vault]

Vulture works like that

[undone sandal]

not what i was referring to

referring to the base ammo count of bruen

[tawdry vault]

Ahh

[undone sandal]

if you have 60r mag, it's 60/80 instead of the usual 60/240
100r (base), 100/100 instead of 100/400
200r mag, 200/200 instead of 200/800

[tawdry vault]

Ah

[bright dragon]

What does silenced mean on the mag? I get what it means on the suppressor but on the mag?

Will this mag make the gun silenced?

[tawny walrus]

Really? That sucks.

[undone sandal]

yes

[tawny walrus]

.300

Yes.

[bright dragon]

that’s a really cool attachment so then you don’t even have to put a suppressor on the gun, is this exclusive to the m13?

[undone sandal]

no

[bright dragon]

What other guns have this attachment? I haven’t noticed it on all AR

[undone sandal]

oden subsonic

[bright dragon]

What’s a good build for the m13

[tawdry vault]

Supp barrels and supp mags save a slot

[bright dragon]

Will the gun still stay silenced since it’s on the mag and not in the actual muzzle itself? For example if I put a different muzzle on that isn’t suppressed will it still stay suppressed because of the mag?

[undone sandal]

yes

[bright dragon]

That’s really good I feel is that what a standard m13 build uses?

[austere igloo]

yes

[undone sandal]

you can try this
silencer barrel, nostock, gran, mag b, perk/tac laser/tac fg a
heavy long barrel, nostock, gran, doublestack mag, tac laser/tac fg a/perk

no one uses mini barrel anymore afaik

[bright dragon]

Thanks I’ll experiment with it! I don’t see a lot of people talk about the m13 but it seems like it has a lot of potential

[vale lichen]

Use .300 double 40 though

[bright dragon]

That’s what I was thinking .300 double I was confused when he said mag b

[bright dragon]

What other attachments for m13

[vale lichen]

Perk/owc laser

[bright dragon]

Is that the new mythic? I want that so bad

It’s actually what made me try the m13 and I’m liking it

[bright dragon]

I’m going with the laser instead of perk here

[vale lichen]

1000th rerun m-13 draw actually lol

[bright dragon]

I got 3 of the attachments listed so far

[narrow glen]

@bright dragon, 9 Server Rank

[bright dragon]

I added the muzzle because I don’t have a lot since the gun is only 34

[vale lichen]

💀 update this though

2x weapon xp event

[bright dragon]

What do you mean update it?

[vale lichen]

Weapon card to update the gun level

That unlock all slots for the weapon

Attachments

[bright dragon]

I actually used all weapon cards I haven’t played in 2 years so I didn’t have a lot of guns maxed

[vale lichen]

Play ranked you will get weapon xp while playing with a maxxed gun or attachements will unlock itself when you play with gun you want to update

[minor flare]

Try level up on mp

[hollow island]

Can you guys help me make a loadout for holger (for dom & hp) with a red dot sight

[opal root]

#codm-gunsmith-builds

[bold sigil]

When I design a build, should I use a meta build or should I try and design it for 1 purpose (ads, hipfire, mobility, etc.)

[latent perch]

Huh really?

What's a good s36 build

[vale lichen]

No caliber ammo then don't use hvk

☠️

[unreal gale]

Nice build.

Shhhhh

[vale lichen]

[tired grove]

Good morning

[vale lichen]

GM

[little bison]

whats the best smg for br?

[rich arch]

Lapa , fennec

[little bison]

not mp...

[bright dragon]

Just unlocked all my SMGs I play mostly TDM, what’s the best SMG? I see people were saying the switchblade but it has way to much recoil. I like the qq9 more

[little bison]

honestly both are good

[austere igloo]

I only got one for br

[little bison]

they are actually kinda on par with each other

[bright dragon]

What’s the best SMG though?

[little bison]

well

[austere igloo]

There’s no single 1 best smg

It’s a collective thing

[bright dragon]

For AR I like the kilo, Krig and grau. I just started playing with the m13 and I’m liking that one as well. I just can’t figure out an SMG

[little bison]

its just preference

[austere igloo]

QQ9 & switchblade are pretty top tier

I want to say pdw but alas they debuffed it to pre-buff stage

[bright dragon]

What makes switchblade top tier? Granted I just unlocked it so it doesn’t have any of its attachments but it had a ton of recoil

[little bison]

both weapons with the best build (no lasers)

[narrow glen]

@little bison, 18 Server Rank

[bright dragon]

I was liking the PDW a lot when I played it earlier

[little bison]

pdw's recoil is still controllable though

fr the cbr but better

[austere igloo]

Fast ttk, fast mobility, reasonable mag size, reasonable bsa, controllable recoil

Oh, and clean ironsights

[bright dragon]

Are the attachments going to help with that recoil?

[little bison]

good reload too

[austere igloo]

I know, but the buffed pdw stuck with me better

[little bison]

mip extend

[austere igloo]

Yes

[little bison]

i didnt really feel a difference imo

[austere igloo]

Use the extended barrel

[little bison]

this build

-19% ads- 😴 aim time is 230ms

[bright dragon]

Thanks!

[austere igloo]

Hang on, is this an snd build?

[little bison]

no

i mean i use both for respawns and snd

[austere igloo]

Because the one i see most of the while has owc tac laser instead of granulated

[little bison]

you dont need more ads time

ads time is already good i'd love to have more bsa

[rich arch]

I didn't say mp

[little bison]

oh

fennec really? i'll try i guess

[rich arch]

Tac sup, recon long, 45 mag, granu, light stock

[little bison]

?

literally the build i used

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

Isn’t this the snd version of the standard qq9 build?

Without the laser

The standard one has a laser on it

[rich arch]

Recommended path's build for MP in general

[austere igloo]

[vale lichen]

If you don't know how to control recoil that makes sx9 special

Qq9 need insane recoil control

[bright dragon]

Is sx9 switchblade? I feel QQ9 is easier to control

[little bison]

sx9 is switch

[vale lichen]

Yes, and QQ9 need better control than Sx9

[bright dragon]

Weird I feel I control the qq9 a lot easier. What’s the attachments on the qq9?

[vale lichen]

Rtc recon tac long, mono, no stock, owc laser, 45 mag

[bright dragon]

Ah yes that’s what the gun they gave us has those attachments and that variation of it is really hard to control but I’ve had other variations that were better in the control area

[eternal idol]

@austere igloo @vale lichen hvk loadout pwease

[drifting ore]

Any good builds for br?

[rich arch]

So for BR the meta are these?:
Lapa , Fennec
S36
M13, lk24, Oden
HDR, DLQ
?

[rich arch]

Lapa is amazing

And m13 is also amazing

Mythic M13 or Switchable? Which gun wins?

And Dlq is also amazing with that concussion mag attachment

[rich arch]

Might be a bit biased but switchblade is dogggy shit and m13 Morningstar is yummy af

Hmmm

M13 good in BR, yet SX good in MP. Tough choice

I personally love m13 I am on leaderboard for my region but like super super low on leaderboard

I use it MP and BR

It works like a dream for me in both

M13 can be the most long range AR in the world sometimes and then It can be perfect mid ADS mid range

[eternal idol]

Grau :

[narrow glen]

@haughty smelt, 6 Server Rank

[little bison]

ak117

it melts in br

[austere igloo]

Not melts

It shreds

[austere igloo]

M13 might suit your playstyle but statistically it’s nowhere near the best

If I said it once I said it already

Using shit guns well don’t make the guns not shit

It just means the player has better skill

[rich arch]

Yes I have skill

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 19 Server Rank

[rich arch]

I mean it suits my gamestyle

Also statistics don’t matter soo much it is more preference

It’s like how people like the sks it might be statistically insane but it doesn’t suit most people play style

[austere igloo]

It does matter

They help u use the gun optimally

[rich arch]

Eh maybe for you but I just play for fun and use the guns I like

[austere igloo]

But m13 is really not the best choice of an AR for br

[rich arch]

What would you choose

[austere igloo]

So you’re a casual?

[austere igloo]

Ak117

[rich arch]

A casual who plays a lot

[rich arch]

I use ak117 too

[austere igloo]

So…not a casual

[rich arch]

But still a casual

I mean I don’t really let people tell me what guns to use I just use what I like

But I don’t mind the advice tho

[austere igloo]

Ak117 is much better at beaming than M13

[rich arch]

It’s good in br

I use it there my friend has mythic so I just play with him

[austere igloo]

Mhmm

[little bison]

not shreds it evaporates

[austere igloo]

…really? We’re arguing semantics now?

[little bison]

lol

[rich arch]

Send your build for ak117 @austere igloo

[austere igloo]

I’m not at home

[rich arch]

Ok send when back pls I will try it

[little bison]

can you replace SoH with rds if your troubling with the ironsights

[rich arch]

@rich arch m13 top tier AR alongside with Amax, LK24, T25 Stopping Power mag

and oden I guess

[rich arch]

Yes

[austere igloo]

m13 no.9/no.10 in top tier

definitely not no.1-5

at best, no.7

[ruby iris]

M13 is top tier ar in br

≥ amax

[austere igloo]

Imma place it at no.6 spot

just coz of ak117, krig, kilo, & oden existing

[tawny walrus]

AMAX is better.

[austere igloo]

Amax for me prolly at no.9 spot for me

or no.8

[ruby iris]

Amax has more potentials, but m13 is more consistent

[tawny walrus]

M13 isn’t doing great on long ranges.

[austere igloo]

also y'all sleeping on LK in br

[ruby iris]

For ars in br, i'd say the top 3 is m13, lk and type 25

[austere igloo]

LK24 is goated in br

not minding the shitty potential in cqc

[ruby iris]

It's doing very great on long ranges, got buffed

[austere igloo]

moreover LK has better stability than m4

[tawny walrus]

When?

[ruby iris]

This season iirc

[austere igloo]

they did buff m13 like 2 seasons ago

[ruby iris]

Hold on, lemme find patch notes

[austere igloo]

but even with the buff I still rarely see m13 in my servers

ppl too in their comfort zone with ak117 ak47 & kilos

[ruby iris]

Basically same ttk long range as lk

But you have better bv and rpm

[uneven anchor]

hop on ab 🏳️‍⚧️

[uneven anchor]

pls tell meta for breach gamemode ty

(its pkm)

[ruby iris]

Ion play breach

[uneven anchor]

cringe

best game mode

[ruby iris]

From @strong monolith
ARs: M13, LK24, Type 25
SMGs: CX9, LAPA, Razorback
LMGs: S36, Bruen, PKM
Sniper: XPR-50, HDR, DLQ
Shotgun: HS0405, Echo, JAK-12

[uneven anchor]

huh

[tawny walrus]

I see.

[ruby iris]

For br

[uneven anchor]

pkm in br??

[strong monolith]

Hi

[ruby iris]

Not breach

[ruby iris]

Hello

[uneven anchor]

s36 is way better than pkm in br

[strong monolith]

It definitely is

But if we looking for top 3 LMGs, PKM is there

[uneven anchor]

fair enough

[strong monolith]

At least imo

[uneven anchor]

100k 🚮

[ruby iris]

A small price to pay

[uneven anchor]

p90 no attachment long barrel t5 ammo

[ruby iris]

For shredding t6 mfs like cheese

[uneven anchor]

no one uses t6

let's be real

[ruby iris]

I ran into a few t6 mfs in port lz

[uneven anchor]

noooo wayy

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

bring me to your lobbies

i want to t5 p90 them

1000 rpm t5 5.7

[ruby iris]

Just play port lz, and go port authority

[uneven anchor]

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

i dont i never find t6

i haven't fought t6 since last update

when i ratted dam with maiden

is dam extract still up btw?

[ruby iris]

Idk

[uneven anchor]

it looks gone

[ruby iris]

Anyways

[uneven anchor]

i haven't had it open for me in lz

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

oh right we're in smithing

why are all my friends banned 😔

[ruby iris]

Smungithing

[uneven anchor]

hate this server

[uneven onyx]

holger?

someone

[half fulcrum]

Tac supp, no stock, disable, owc laser and gran grip tape

For snd u can use mip light instead of laser

[upper folio]

What's the best gun's rn? For br and multiplayer

[tired grove]

Bruen MK9

[severe spade]

Lk

[rich arch]

Best lmg for mp?

[strange rivet]

Holgae?

Ul?

Maybe hades too idk I don't keep up nowadays

[rich arch]

M13 build for BR plz

I'm having some screenshots of some builds and I wanna see what other ppl using

[vale lichen]

I use this one

Changed the no stock to assault stock

Credit to some user

[undone sandal]

heavy long
optic
opfg
mag b
tac laser

[rich arch]

Thanks

Thoughts on 300 rtc double stack in BR?

[undone sandal]

not sure why you would use it

[rich arch]

Hmmm

Another question.. Xpr50 is very good in BR; what about SKS and M21 EBR? Could I use them??

(speaking about semi auto snipers)

[ruby iris]

M21 is basically xpr, but shoots slower

[eternal idol]

@austere igloo

[ruby iris]

Sks isnt ammo efficient

[austere igloo]

isn't this default?

[eternal idol]

Nope.

[eternal idol]

Useless buttons are removed, movement and weapon switch is changed. Opacity as well as size if buttons r changed.

[copper jacinth]

Holger

[rich arch]

Hmm

[terse cobalt]

@eternal idol lol, the opacity is hella low

is all ab clean ctrls

[eternal idol]

Hmm

I feel left for aim and right for shoot is better lol

[terse cobalt]

I've been there b4

it has an effect on your aim if you're 4 finger

[eternal idol]

Ah ok

I'm deciding between 3 or 4finger

[terse cobalt]

the more the better, but start gradually

[eternal idol]

So 3 first is cool ?

[terse cobalt]

yes, get comfortable with it so well you can perform well in rank w/o ctrl troubles
then add another btn

[eternal idol]

Ok.

Soo, lets see

Left index for aiming, right thumb for looking and shooting and movement.

[terse cobalt]

i should add u

[eternal idol]

Right thumb for joystick

[eternal idol]

Sure

[terse cobalt]

I'd suggest u get the hang of claw shooting position but... ok that could work

left or right handed ?

[eternal idol]

Let me get used to left index for aim, ill switch a few weeks later if I still play, that is.

Right

[terse cobalt]

6863613110365192193

[eternal idol]

Will try it. Thx!

Brb in 10 mins

[strong monolith]

Both of them are usable but there is virtually 0 reason to use them over XPR
M21 does requires an extra shot to kill and has slower bullet speed
SKS has much worse recoil so you can't spam it as hard and the lower damage makes it so that you will burn through your reserves

[rich arch]

Τhanks

[paper estuary]

drh build for mp pls?

[rich arch]

@rich arch i got the Morningstar 😋

And it is amazing in both br and mp

[upper folio]

What's the best gun's rn? For br and multiplayer

[rich arch]

M13

Trust me

Don’t listen to bb33

[vale lichen]

Listen to me

[rich arch]

[vale lichen]

Forgrip in MP == haram

[rich arch]

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

[tired grove]

[tawny walrus]

Doesn’t apply for BO gunsmith and for passive builds.

This one for example.

[digital needle]

Long shot + Ranger

[tawny walrus]

Any problems?

[rich arch]

[tawny walrus]

For your acknowledge, this build has been used for a championship.

[rich arch]

For MP or BR?

[tawny walrus]

I don’t think there are any championships for BR.

[digital needle]

Alr k

[tawny walrus]

Long shot, however, can be changed with granulated grip for more accuracy.

[digital needle]

Better to play with LK

Same role, better stats

[tawny walrus]

Better to play with KN, since it has better stats.

[vale lichen]

I was talking about m-13 and yeah i hate foregrip most the times

In other guns

[digital needle]

Just use any gun, they all can be build as any of your play styles / Role

Easy ?

Or just run with Oden

The only gun in the game with universal roles

[peak brook]

[valid forge]

Any1 master playing ranked

[tawny walrus]

It has one inconvenient downside - bullet velosity.

[bright dragon]

Best attachments for AK117?

[silver crown]

Meta builds =/= good for everyone

Everyone has preferences regarding their gunsmith

[copper jacinth]

Can M4 compete withmeta guns in ranked? If so I need a good gunsmith. Not playing agressive with it so stability and range preferred

[ornate jackal]

Yea cause its literally an easy weapon to use

Icr also can compete there easy use with good irons and mags

Do u want a custom build or like something standard with range

[copper jacinth]

Just good stability and fmj

[ornate jackal]

On the second one u can replace gran for ranger grip for better control but m4 is literally noob friendly recoil

Mag size can be replaced ofc for 50 or wtv

[patent umbra]

What’s gonna be a good Bruen build

[shadow briar]

hvk

[shadow briar]

lmg build or ar build?

[patent umbra]

Going for diamond

Give me the chefs special 🧑‍🍳 🦆

[deep lotus]

do you have a personal build for it?

[narrow glen]

@deep lotus, 2 Server Rank

[shadow briar]

i personally run:
MIP strike stock
MIP light barrel
Tac suppressor
Gran grip tape
Large cal ammo

[deep lotus]

thank you😘

[shadow briar]

if you want to trade ads spread for some extra move speed can swap the stock

[ornate jackal]

I dont see a need for a lot of increased fire rate attachments tbh

[shadow briar]

to the ADS speed one

[shadow briar]

its all about kill times. if it lower damage to require more shots to kill then generally not worth, if the shots to kill stays the same under 40m then its probably ok

[rigid swan]

exactly

[copper jacinth]

They both look pretty nice, I'll try then both tomorrow thanks a lot

[shadow briar]

probably this:
No Stock
60 round mag
Horizon barrel
Mono/Tac supp
Gran tape

[patent umbra]

Yes dats what Ise running exactly

[shadow briar]

if the reload wasnt aids i would consider Para barrel and 200 mag

but that 5/7.5s reload kills the viability of that HARD

[blissful aurora]

make the nail gun customizable

[austere igloo]

no

you can't tell it to us because we're not the one making the game

[eternal idol]

@austere igloo

[austere igloo]

gah damn

you're fast

[eternal idol]

Nah. I suck. I got carried.

[tawdry vault]

Wtaf?

Regardless, damn

[rich arch]

Ppl really downvote good builds 💀

Clueless players

[agile wedge]

I need good br guns please pm me I have morning star also but it can be any

[ornate jackal]

Wow chats been dead all day

[ornate jackal]

U prefer any particular categories? Sniper, ar, etc

[agile wedge]

Ar needing sniper too tho

And thank you

[wet quest]

No one is talking about Maddox, is that AR that bad?

[ornate jackal]

Good but theres better

[wet quest]

Best MP build for Maddox?

I bought the legendary one from halloween draw

[agile wedge]

It’s good

[wet quest]

Please suggest me a solid build for legendary lobby MP

[agile wedge]

Like what ?

[rich arch]

Good morning star

[agile wedge]

Can I have it please please

[rich arch]

Yes absolutely

[agile wedge]

I haven’t found one good build

[wet quest]

Everyone using Grau these days, in most MP matches, players barely use off metas

[rich arch]

For BR?

[agile wedge]

Yeah that’s cool too

[agile wedge]

I need a grau

[wet quest]

Also DRH was not bad before buff, it carried me to legendary.

[rich arch]

RTC heavy long barrel
Tac Laser, granulated tape, 60 round mag (B), Ranger Foregrip (or Operator Foregrip)

Apparently this build got downvoted in #codm-gunsmith-builds but don't worry, those who downvoted have no clue. It's the recommended BR build. And that channel is known for having the good builds downvoted

[rich arch]

Top 5 AR

[wet quest]

No one talked about that gun before buff, but literally I was knocking out meta abusers with DRH

[rich arch]

Same here ,I agree

[wet quest]

Fire rate is slow but the stability is 10/10

[rich arch]

My main AR (3-4 seasons before the buff)

[rich arch]

Totally 💯

[ornate jackal]

Before the 25 otm buff it was still amazing

[rich arch]

Yeah 👍

[ornate jackal]

Tbh it never left top 10 ars ever

[rich arch]

I was using the 30otm, now I'm using the 25 one

For me it was always top 6-7 . Now it's it's top 3.

[ornate jackal]

Range with good iron good ttk

[rich arch]

Ghost

It's also good in BR. It got damage buff

[wet quest]

Yes, some guns were very good, KN 44 is also underrated

[rich arch]

Yeah

That’s the one i used to use, its insane in br but

[rich arch]

Yeah

[ornate jackal]

Maybe better than icr now but thats a heavy maybe

[rich arch]

This one works well in mp

[wet quest]

KN beams in long range, and ads time is crazy along with stability

[agile wedge]

Thank you trying it now bro

[rich arch]

For MP:
Tac Laser, Granulated, silencer barrel, Mag B, no stock

[rich arch]

It's very close to LK24

[wet quest]

Everyone's favorite is HVK but i hate its f2p ironsight

[rich arch]

It's the best BR build (recommended also by leakers)

[wet quest]

LK 24 Iron sight also isn't good unless you have leggy

[rich arch]

Broooo, when i joined i thought the downvote meant they downloaded the build 😭

Lol

[rich arch]

Too much recoil for long range and i don’t use tac laser cus Im and s&d main

They even downvoted the DRH and MX9 build

[agile wedge]

Bet bro appreciate it

[rich arch]

Instead of silencer barrel use mini rtc

Why didn’t it send

I thought you deleted it

Halloween series guns count for prestige right?

[quaint temple]

Build for m4

[barren shell]

Full ammo(perk), Strike Foregrip, 50 Round Extended mag, OWC light supressor(muzzle), Classic red dot sight

[narrow glen]

@barren shell, 10 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Call of Duty Hitman Mobile build

[tawny walrus]

Famas Marksman rifle.

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

You sure is this a good one?

[austere igloo]

U ruined the gun with the ranger foregrip

[austere igloo]

That’s not a good build

[austere igloo]

& that build is a ‘wtf have u done to the gun’ build

[rich arch]

Whyyyy

Stop hating on my m13 grass

[austere igloo]

You just gave me a reason to dislike the morningstar

& you can’t tell me not hate when you have given valid reasons to do so

It’s like I give you a half-eaten apple & you hate on it, & I tell you to stop hating on it

Does that seem fair?

[rich arch]

No

Send me an m13 build that YOU think is good then

[austere igloo]

No stock
40rnd rtc
Mini barrel/long barrel
Tac laser
Sleight of hand/disable

[rich arch]

Ok

I will try it

But my build is not bad, it works in all situations

[austere igloo]

It is bad mate

Maybe it works for you

[rich arch]

Yea

[keen gazelle]

this is like those starter builds the game gives you

which imo is not a good build

even if youre going for nukes i wouldnt use full ammo

[keen gazelle]

i like the build but im not with nor against what @austere igloo said about the grip

i think if you practiced your aim, you could take off the grip since it ruines your ads speed a ton

i personally like combat stock for the m13 tho

one of the few combat stocks that actually work well (ads speed is better than no stock)

[rich arch]

Thanks

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 20 Server Rank

[rich arch]

No stock is ruins the gun for me

I only use grip because it gives me godly aim but as I improve I’ll probably take it off

[keen gazelle]

to keep the barrel and stock, try this

practice with it, learn the recoil pattern and most importantly; learn what centering is

[rich arch]

If i take of the tac laser

What can i put instead

[keen gazelle]

since the bsa is already very good, i would put on a perk

[austere igloo]

I would go with sleight of hand

Nothing wrong with fast reloads

[agile wedge]

Bro I killed it with that best build ever thank you

[rich arch]

That's amazing

[agile wedge]

Needing a legendary ranked mp gun I can play with.

[narrow glen]

@agile wedge, 11 Server Rank

[eternal idol]

Can anyone make this and send the hud code ?

@terse cobalt

[rich arch]

Those who downvoted this BR build could you plz provide the reason why?

If none of you replies with a proper and informative explanation, you just clicked the 🔻 button without knowing about that gun and you're clueless

Unless you can't read and you thought that it's an MP build

Or you just can't use anything else except for M4 and AK

The m13 is literally meta in BR rn

[paper estuary]

is maddox meta ?

[paper estuary]

🤯

[austere igloo]

no

[austere igloo]

I didn't even see this

[paper estuary]

what abt in br?

[austere igloo]

no

maddox isn't meta

[paper estuary]

it's prob bc I haven't played much with it but felt really good

[paper estuary]

ty for the help

[austere igloo]

felt good =/= good gun

[austere igloo]

[quaint temple]

Can anyone give me ICR build? Pls

Pls

[ruby iris]

Why not?

[austere igloo]

ykm integral supp
owc tac laser
ext mag/fast ext mag
no stock
granulated

[quaint temple]

Thanks

[austere igloo]

[unique spire]

Can anyone gimme a GOOD PKM attachment (for mp or Br) Thanks.

[terse cobalt]

what's with ppl fuming over a downvote in these channels, this ain't fkn Reddit

ppl get a downvote on their build and they act like it lowered their credit score

[austere igloo]

Fr lmao

It wasn’t even that long ago I dealt with another dimwit who got mad because one person downvoted his “best”build

[austere igloo]

Mp yes, br no

[ocean narwhal]

disable better imo

[tawny walrus]

Why not 200 magazine?

[upbeat kayak]

is there a kn44 build for mp snd?

[tawny walrus]

• Monolithic suppressor
• Ranger barrel
• No stock
• Any magazine
• Granulated grip

[upbeat kayak]

alright, thanks :D

[tawny walrus]

You’re welcome.

[eternal idol]

@ocean narwhal it's like this

[austere igloo]

150 rnd feels enough for me

[austere igloo]

I like faster reload

Besides, it’s not like I’m deliberately aiming at the legs when shooting people

[ruby iris]

More is better

[rich arch]

Willsmithing or Gunsmithing

[ocean narwhal]

u get disable effect to full body with lmg

[shadow briar]

i dont think i downvoted but: i dont like laser in BR, and no silencer sketches me out in terms of getting 3rd partied more easily

[shadow briar]

you should be killling fast enough in MP that it doesnt really matter

[rich arch]

Hmm

[shadow briar]

if you INSIST on ranger fg and 60 mag, I would say this

going from heavy to silencer barrel only loses 3m of 12tap-full-kill (body)/9tap-head-full-kill

but you actually drop the heavy's move pens entirely (at the cost of a little bsa, which given the m13's rpm i'm fine with)

given the bsa drop from swapping barrel i would say 60 mag is probably needed tho

if you wanted heavy barrel i would run your build and drop laser for tctical silencer or swap mag for one of the .300BLK mags

[dusty heart]

Tac laser and gran grip waste of slot

Heavy barrel and ranger fg give good enough bsa already

[shadow briar]

swap for supp and SoH?

if you drop laser and gran

[rich arch]

And what should it be instead?

[dusty heart]

Disable,5mw,soh,mono and tactical stock are your options

Also any optic,m13 works good surprisingly with tac scopes

[shadow briar]

disable kinda shit on non-lmg

[dusty heart]

I mean if they’re pretty far away you’ll definitely hit a few leg shots

[shadow briar]

at that point you should swap to your sniper though

[rich arch]

Why 5MW ?

[shadow briar]

unless youre running ar/sg

[rich arch]

I don't use it as a hip fire weapon

[shadow briar]

point blank

[rich arch]

Hmmm

[dusty heart]

Sprint to fire,in case someone jumps in your face so you don’t get that much delay

[rich arch]

Alright I'll try it rn

[shadow briar]

i only put combat stock on mine cuz i didnt know what the 5th should be, was considering SoH but wanted maybe a lilttle more ads speed out of the build

[narrow glen]

@shadow briar, 33 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Hmmm

I need that sprint to fire boost actually

[tawny walrus]

I used @ruby iris build before. It works really well.

[tawdry vault]

That be some Kingsman type shit

[tawny walrus]

I love this blueprint.

[tawdry vault]

I can respect that

[shadow briar]

1. Why the flash guard?
2. Does it feel slow?

[tawny walrus]

1. BSA and hip fire accuracy.
2. It was a long time ago, since I used it, but I don’t really think so.

[ruby iris]

Bit outdated imo

[tawny walrus]

Why?

[ruby iris]

That was a flex ar build

A main ar build would fit m13 more now

Use assault stock, and focus less on hipfire

[tawny walrus]

Show the build.

[tawdry vault]

Yeah, show the build with the exact same blueprint

[ruby iris]

Heavy long
Mag b/double stack
Optic
Assault stock
Attachment of preference

[ornate jackal]

Dont some smgs use disble

[ornate jackal]

Replace gran with mip ext light bar if u want a little more range

[wary gazelle]

yea i play passive agressive

[tawdry vault]

Im sad I didn't get a legendary from that draw

[wary gazelle]

odds are 1/5 for free players

[tawdry vault]

I used every single ticket chance I had; not a single legendary gun

Only legendary "item" I got was the calling card

[wary gazelle]

tough luck buddy

there's always next time

[tawdry vault]

Yeah yeah yeah

Its still never happening

[ornate jackal]

Next time = christmas

[tawdry vault]

Really?

[ornate jackal]

Most likely will be something free then

[tawdry vault]

Sure hope so

I just want at least one legendary

[ornate jackal]

Oh wait

Next season kurohana crate

[eternal idol]

@vale lichen @austere igloo
Fingers broke. Not working.

@peak brook

[peak brook]

That's not 4 finger. That's 3 fingers an a thumb that's being wasted

[eternal idol]

How ? Left index for fire, right index for aim, right thumb for looking and left thumb for movement.

[austere igloo]

Wtf

[austere igloo]

Ehh, they’re usually dead before I notice it anyway

[eternal idol]

I...I. sigh. Idk what to do.

[austere igloo]

I can do without the disable on pkm

[austere igloo]

Are you tryna emulate my hud?

Or what?

[eternal idol]

That's actually from a video of jokesta. It looked simple....

[peak brook]

You can make use of drag to aim. Frees up having to look and scroll across the screen before aiming.

Additionally you seem to be putting your entire fire selection on the left side, but in an unnatural and uncomfortable place for your fingers. Try to make use of the edges of the screen. Also worth it to place non-interactive displays (map, score display, calling cards) somewhere out of the way or somewhere where it's non-intrusive. One such area is the base of where your gun usually is on the screen, since it's wasted space

Again, make one for yourself. Don't copy other's.

It will help you way more to make your own and get used to it

[eternal idol]

Hmm.

It's just that by the time I aim and all im dead..

[peak brook]

That's where practice and good builds come in. And good reaction times...and a sensitivity that suits you

[eternal idol]

There's so much to do in 4 fingers...I'm having 2nd thoughts lmao

[vale lichen]

I wouldn't recommend you to use others HUD

and jokesta is Sniper main i think

So his HUD maybe adjusted for it

[eternal idol]

But I can't find a good spot for anything.

By the time I'm pressing aim the leg players slide and knife me, even

[vale lichen]

No one finds the best place

Just hope in training mode

And start adjusting

[peak brook]

Play around with it all til you find what works for you, then improve on it

[eternal idol]

Okay.

First, I'll charge my phone.

21%

[vale lichen]

Codm adjusting is easy

I had to adjust for 2days for PUBG💀

Custom cards wasted successfully

[ocean narwhal]

are u transitioning from 3 fingers or 2?

[little bison]

try using the grids that the control ui gives you

if you're right handed place fire buttons on top right section

left hand top left section

bottom left for joy stick (duh)

but use whatever you prefer

the one that suits you most helps

its all preference!

[eternal idol]

2 fingers to 3 or 4, haven't decided.

[unreal gale]

Go 4

[eternal idol]

Yes, but I'm struggling to find an hud.

[unreal gale]

This hud is not bad

But you might just wanna use the shoot button rather than the ads shoot for now

You can add the ads shoot later

[eternal idol]

Nah, I cannot reload or do movement for the life of me.

As a 2 finger I couldn't do movement anyway.

[unreal gale]

This is my iPad hud

I reload with my aiming thumb

[eternal idol]

I'm on mobile, tabs have much more space :p

[unreal gale]

Fr

But you can try re arrange buttons into that triangle shape

I'd drop the prone button. Use hold to prone

Or just don't prone lol

I don't think prone is necessary in the current meta

And move reload to your thumb

Then your right pointer only has 3 rather 5 buttons

For movement, start with strafing

Then add some sliding when you peak corners, and that's about it honestly

Just find cover in general, and headglitch behind them. Cover > movement

[tawny walrus]

Same.

[copper jacinth]

I do with my Right index finger

[tired grove]

Me, too, but on mobile

[copper jacinth]

Best AK117 gunsmith for ranked. Not playing agressive with it

[tropic warren]

1v1 anyone for $100?

[copper jacinth]

But I won't give u 100 if I loose cause I can't spare them rn if not I would've bought entire mythic m13 draw already lol

[tropic warren]

That’s sad
But I get

[copper jacinth]

Nah just having some life problems rn and I've got the money for the important things only

[weary aurora]

@unreal gale when u buy a legendary from the for you section do you get to pick the specific blueprint that comes

[rich arch]

What are the best attachments for zeg 20mm sniper rifle (mobility and ads)

[unreal gale]

yes, unless the specific one you're looking for was a limited edition skin

so skins like cbr lattice, lapa kobe one, locus electron?

skins like that

I think LK justicar is also limited edition

but like why the heck would you want to buy that

[ocean narwhal]

light suppressor
short barrel
combat stock
stippled grip
AP/AV mag

[old reef]

I feel like the mag options are too punishing imo

[ocean narwhal]

AP doesnt have ads penalty

[old reef]

Fair but has ads movement plenalty

[ocean narwhal]

doesnt matter tbh

[old reef]

Eh, more of a personal preference.

I perfer to be speedy when adsing

[rich arch]

Yo question what is world record for Bliz solo

[glacial marten]

Gunsmith for ak117 0 recoil both mp rank and br ? Or a ffar one

[pulsar oxide]

Are there any ar/smg anyone could recommend me

[unreal gale]

LK24, HVK

[cunning rapids]

0 recoil isn’t always good

It results in slow ads and you wouldn’t be able to counter fast guns

[unreal gale]

you can just pre ads

or spam ads, like with sks and holger

Best asval build

If you think the barrel on that one looks long….

but yeah, asval op

[shadow briar]

vss

[terse cobalt]

always have been

[rich arch]

We are getting a legendary DR-H soon

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 14 Server Rank

[cunning rapids]

Nice

[narrow glen]

@cunning rapids, 66 Server Rank

[cunning rapids]

finally lvl 66

[narrow glen]

Your roles on this server do not allow you to use the AI commands.

Reach out to the server owner to know how to get an ai-authorized role or Unlock unlimited uses of this AI-based feature with a personal plan.

[rich arch]

66 dang I'm only 14

[viscid belfry]

rds

[dusty heart]

The tac scope reskin looks very nice

Makes it look like a better mythic dlq

[tawdry vault]

Any MW11 builds? Im dead serious

[dusty heart]

Short barrel,mono suppressor,mag,any laser,light trigger

BSA is still point on despite what the stats say

[ruby iris]

Tested?

[dusty heart]

Yep

[ruby iris]

Send

[dusty heart]

Well I tested it at the range id normally use it

[ruby iris]

Coulda said that bsa doesnt matter in it's range

Your sentence could be interpreted as mw11 having god tier bsa yk

[dusty heart]

Fair point,it’s still reliable in its range despite the bsa murdering

Better wording

[ruby iris]

[hollow panther]

Mow build?

[shadow briar]

Deagle vs J3 Revolver
Best builds for each? (J3 stopping power or no?)
How do they compare to each other?

[tawdry vault]

Thoughts?

[tawny walrus]

Big no no.

[old reef]

Why are you running a 3x...

Thats just waiting for good players to shit talk on ya

[keen gazelle]

very bad

[tawdry vault]

First off, my eyes are terrible andno I don't need glasses, My eyes are just too watery;
Second, I cant see half the time, because either distance or they blend in with the environment
Lastly, who said that I do terrible with it? Got a kill count of 36 in ranked with it

But what would you put instead of the 3x, of wise sages of sweaty men

[shadow briar]

i would at least drop 3x for SoH, tac laser or (i would have to check p90 to see if theres a good one) a foregrip, then swap stippled to gran tape

if you REALLY cant see shit without an optic, red dot is preferred. 1.5x tac scope at MOST for an smg

[keen gazelle]

youre like the nerdiest person here its funny

but uhm youre not bad, the build is

[shadow briar]

i dont remember off the top of my head what the best stock for p90 is

[keen gazelle]

im not against 3x, if youre the best with it then use it

but that specific build sucks

youre stacking bsa just to kill it when theres better ways to stack bsa and keep ads speed

[shadow briar]

if youre gonna run 3x, run the 5mw laser tbh

[keen gazelle]

seems counterintuitive if youre gunna be at range

[shadow briar]

so you have an option when other smgs get in your face

[keen gazelle]

i would just go full bsa while keeping range

[shadow briar]

if youre gonna play range imho better to run an ar for more generous damage drop off

[keen gazelle]

right but in this case with the cbr… ima try and make a build

[eternal idol]

@tawdry vault @austere igloo @vale lichen
Finished what I set out for, as promised.

[tawdry vault]

Horray!

[eternal idol]

Do bots join gm3 lobbies?

[tawdry vault]

Bots join

They join a lot more in the ranked protection points

[eternal idol]

I had a fine last game. Ik its not great but yeah.

[tawdry vault]

But they sometimes spawn in the higher levels

[eternal idol]

Ah ok

[shadow briar]

bots go up to gm5

[eternal idol]

I almost double nuked in ranked, so was wondering.

[shadow briar]

once you hit legend theres few to no more bots outside your ranked protection matches

[eternal idol]

Wait...1 nuke is how many kills ?

[tawdry vault]

I encountered a couple bots in legend outside the prot points

[keen gazelle]

@keen gazelle this is better imo

[tawdry vault]

A nuke kills all enemies once, iirc

[shadow briar]

gm2 and you dont know how many kills to a nuke

[tawdry vault]

Bro @ himself

[shadow briar]

its 25 btw

[eternal idol]

I get confused between 25 and 30

[keen gazelle]

you have range, good bsa till 30m and fast ads @tawdry vault i meant to @ you

[eternal idol]

Some games I used to play had it at 30.

[shadow briar]

ah

idk about other CoDs, but here its 25

[tawdry vault]

Its thirty, always has been

[eternal idol]

Then indeed I would've triple nuked if not for the legendary player.

[tawdry vault]

Never once have I gotten a nuke at 25

[eternal idol]

Lmao 25 or 30

[keen gazelle]

no it hasnt

its 20-25

depending on the map

[eternal idol]

20 25 30

[shadow briar]

really?

[tawdry vault]

I count each time I try for a nuke; its always thirty when I get the button

[keen gazelle]

never is it 30 in codm lmao

[shadow briar]

thats fuckin weird

[keen gazelle]

its guns only no assists

[tawdry vault]

I know it is

[keen gazelle]

go into shipment rn and get a 20, youll see

[eternal idol]

Lmao we're all confused.

[eternal idol]

Oh. No wonder I triple nuked lmaoo

[tawdry vault]

I dont use anything but my guns, and its always thirty

I'll run a bot match in rn, and Ill count

[keen gazelle]

right youre right

what would i know about nukes

[shadow briar]

honestly it should take more kills at higher ranks

[tawdry vault]

Im not asking for your nuke count

Im talking about my experience with mukes

[shadow briar]

really reward the best of the best

[keen gazelle]

the count shows that ive played either longer or better enough to know how many kills it is

and that youre wrong but im sure you have over 10k nukes

[shadow briar]

20 on Hijacked

[keen gazelle]

thank you

you can also see here its 20

[pulsar oxide]

Got any grau/krig loadouts u could suggest me?

[shadow briar]

oh i got a grau for ya

[pulsar oxide]

Slide it

[shadow briar]

the king of shipment 📦 👑 📦

[pulsar oxide]

Is that a new smg?

[shadow briar]

sniper

[tawdry vault]

Okay, I stand corrected

[pulsar oxide]

[tawdry vault]

But I am absolutely positive that I got a nuke at thirty

[shadow briar]

youre getting no more than 5 inches of barrel (not counting a suppressor) out of that

[tawdry vault]

How tf did you make the mono nonexistent?

[shadow briar]

change appearance - default

also let’s you run oil can supp on the Makarov while still running irons

[tawdry vault]

Ight, Ima fiddle with that

[ornate jackal]

It depends on what kinda kills u get

Like headshots and like quad kills

Triple kills, etc. u can get nuke from 20

[fresh apex]

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[narrow glen]

@fresh apex, 9 Server Rank

[eternal idol]

What the-

[eternal idol]

What is this contraption !?

[keen gazelle]

you could if some kills wernt from your gun

as i mentioned before

[eternal idol]

Which maps have it at 20 ?

[keen gazelle]

small maps like shipment, nuketown, killhouse

[eternal idol]

Ah ok. Btw, where did shipment 24/7 go to ?

[keen gazelle]

the gamemodes come and go