codm-gunsmith-help

[autumn salmon]

There is one more build btw
Silencer barrel
No stock
Tac laser/fmj
Large extended mag B
Gran grip tape

[kind fox]

How can you send pictures?

[autumn salmon]

But do keep in mind that these builds will have a decent kick to the recoil in longer ranges if you're a new player

[autumn salmon]

#┃server-media-passes claim the ticket provided in the "selection" option

[kind fox]

About the new player part

[rich arch]

What

Rank r u

[unique schooner]

@keen gazelle mind if i dm you about something?

[kind fox]

@rich arch I was at Legendary last season

[rich arch]

Same

I’m gm 5

[kind fox]

@rich arch you want to play together?

[fair prawn]

please a build of grau 5.56

[rich arch]

K gimme 5 min

[kind fox]

@rich arch I messaged you my ID

[tired grove]

Monolithic Suppressor
FSS 20.8 Nexus Barrel
OWC Laser Tactical
50 Round Mags
Cronsen Sniper Elite

[umbral obsidian]

Mono is not needed for Grau

Tac is fine

[tired grove]

Okay

As you want

[fair prawn]

thank

[narrow glen]

@fair prawn, 9 Server Rank

[fair prawn]

no stick isn t best that cronsen sniper elite ?

[ripe plover]

im bored rn, so can anyone drop me gunsmith for fr 556?

[autumn salmon]

Mono supp
Extended light barrel
Light stock
Gran grip tape/tac laser
Extended mag

[ripe plover]

thanks g

[autumn salmon]

You're welcome!

[silk quest]

Anybody tryna play?

[narrow glen]

@silk quest, 11 Server Rank

[fair prawn]

please make me a build to fennec

[gaunt vigil]

Anyone got a good icr1 build

[fair prawn]

anyone got a good fennec build

[tired grove]

Monolithic suppressor
MIP Extended Light Barrel
Steady Stock
Operator Foregrip
Extended Mag

[tawny isle]

thats the build i ise

[tired grove]

I got this build from a youtuber know as Kith

[fair prawn]

and for the ak 47 please

this is the last build that i want please

[sharp urchin]

I need m13 pls

[sharp urchin]

Thanks a lot dude

[vale lichen]

[jade talon]

OWC Light Comp, MIP Light Barrel, OWC Laser Tac, Strike Fore-grip, No Stock.

[crimson fractal]

💀

[strange rivet]

[tired grove]

MIP Light Barrel (Short) OWC Skeleton Stock OWC Laser Tactical 40 Round Extended Mag Granulated Grip Tape

[umbral obsidian]

Looks like you have taken my Job .

Have fun

[autumn salmon]

A suppressor is necessary

And, ranger barrel is a good pick because of the range boost

To compensate for the ads loss, switch to no stock

[drowsy lion]

Hey guys I need the best QQ9 build for mp plz

[umbral obsidian]

Mono
Recon barrel
No stock
45 mag
Tac laser /gran

[drowsy lion]

Thanks man

[rich arch]

its a viable tactic to not use a suppressor on purpose to lure people to your location

just make sure to have perks that prevent them from flashing you or throwing explosives to get you out from your position

make sure to slightly change areas each kill cause killcams show you briefly, trick them by looking like youre gonna stay there

then move after a few moments, 8/10 theyll come back to the same placr

[brazen tinsel]

Please m4 build

[narrow glen]

@brazen tinsel, 3 Server Rank

[strange rivet]

Idk if this is still the go to but here

[tired grove]

Ok, then

[tired grove]

Tactical Suppressor Recon Tac Long 45 Round Extended Mag YKM Light Stock OWC Laser Tactical/Granulated Grip

Build from @tawny walrus

[granite rune]

Can someone suggest a Hades build?

[fiery bone]

Who has it Gunsmithing MSMC For BR Can you share it?

[drowsy lion]

I’ll give it and try too

[viscid belfry]

where is that font and change light stock to no stock

[ruby iris]

` iirc

Add them both sides

sample text

[real storm]

What's the coolest Sniper/LMG+builds for Br up and around atm?

[dusty heart]

S36:tac suppressor,steady stock,optic,largest mag,operator foregrip
Dlq/zrg/hdr:throw on any attachments,what matters most is that you hit the head to one shot someone

[real crescent]

Is this skin worth 20k

[north rune]

No

[sick jolt]

hi

[undone sandal]

nostock sucks

[austere igloo]

thunder rounds hs0 is shit, change my mind

[little bison]

Agency Suppressor
Rapid Fire Barrel
Disable (replace with aim assist laser if wanted or non-slip for ads)
agile stock
crossbar

it has a dmg from 31 from 24 meters max to 22 dmg infinity

[keen gazelle]

was working but of course yeah

[manic summit]

will this work in br too?

[narrow glen]

@manic summit, 5 Server Rank

[little bison]

uhh

[manic summit]

keep quiet lol

[narrow glen]

Your roles on this server do not allow you to use the AI commands.

Reach out to the server owner to know how to get an ai-authorized role or Unlock unlimited uses of this AI-based feature with a personal plan.

[little bison]

best using the oden for medium range dmg

[manic summit]

even in battle royal?

or just MP?

[little bison]

does disable work in br

[little bison]

i guess so

[austere igloo]

This shit sucks

[little bison]

just add recoil, mag and long range mod

[little bison]

real

[austere igloo]

Not worth all that hype

[summer vortex]

@austere igloo its really good your aim might be off but ive been getting 16+ snd ranked games with it on a average for legendary

[austere igloo]

Im guessing ur not a phone player

or a thumbs player

[rich arch]

bruh it literally feels the exact same as the normal ammo

[odd island]

It essentially makes it have more range while aimed down.

[rich arch]

but then argus exists

[north rune]

Which is better tho

Argus or Hso with thunder

[oblique blaze]

hso thunder doesnt really do nun

[rich arch]

i tried the ranges argus is still better

why thunder rounds exist

[granite rune]

Is the crossbar necessary for Hades? Are the HipFire vs ADS spread values comparable?

[odd island]

The hs is a ads gun, unlike the Argus the hs can hip fire better than the krm.

Only problem is the mobility and fire rate of the hs so it's considered worse than the krm

[austere igloo]

Ur bttr off using the normal rounds

Thunder rounds is just…nah

[torpid holly]

Do anyone have m16 with wild fire attachment?

[digital needle]

Thunder round better than default buckshot

15 meters one shot in BR

Unfair

[tired grove]

OWC Marksman No Stock Wild Fire 49 Round Extended Mag/39 Round Extended Granulated Grip Tape

[rich arch]

nah use laser instead of granulated you can totally use it like a fishing pole for dummies

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 6 Server Rank

[rich arch]

here fishy fishy fishy

come to the pretty green laser ❤️

bro what

i accidently turned my grau into a lazerbeam with fast ads time

[austere igloo]

?

[rich arch]

what

i didnt mean to do it i was just playimg around with attachments till i saw the stats

[tired grove]

Laser isn't the best thing at all

Only pro players use no laser

[sly sandal]

What is the pro player build for Grau then ?

[rich arch]

who you asking

[sly sandal]

Anyone

[rich arch]

gunsmithing build cooldown is still up

[rich arch]

but none of us are pro players

only reason theyd not want to use it is cause the laser sight is visible

8% faster ads is better than 3 percent less ads spread imo

can anyone give me a good dlq set up for close and long range

@tired grove so you claim laser isnt better than granulated but if you break it down, 8% faster ads speed 9.2 percent less ads spread vs 11% ads spread and 4 percent slower ads move speed

so the only answer left is that youre just copying pros or dont want the laser to be visible while im saying you can literally use it to trick people to come to you

so you get...1.9 percent less ads spread by using granulated?

OH BOY

bro why u be geeking out on us

[ruby iris]

Depends

[rich arch]

bros trying to claim less than 2 percent ads spread and slower strafe is way better than the laser

but he just read it was the best build somewhere

[ruby iris]

On versatile guns ye

But i prefer gran on passive guns

[rich arch]

dont underestimate a nicely placed trip mine and aiming your laser out the door

in comp its basically a free kill cause almost noone uses engineer

monke see laser and monke want to attack

smort monke knows this

[north rune]

Lasers reveal your direction..

Unless you're aggressive like with smgs or shotguns lasers aren't a problem

For ARs, LMGs or SR's, better to remove them

[rich arch]

im saying use it to your advantage

they dont know how far back you are in the room all they see is the laser

protect any other entrances and wait for them to come to you

its great with an lmg

and if you do it right they just get more and more tilted

then just try to rush you, remember the enemy will try to do things like change entrances or pre fire as well

brain big we use brain for big brain time

in this case its better to pair it with a suppressor so all they see is the laser ajd dont know where exactly you are

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 7 Server Rank

[rich arch]

My guy is teaching us how to be hated

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 13 Server Rank

[sly sandal]

What build do you use ?

[hushed lava]

What's a good gunsmith for hs0405

[north rune]

I don't think it'll work on most players but it's a decent tactic I guess

If I see laser I'd just avoid getting in line with it and try to rotate and kill enemy

[hushed lava]

Anyone got a hs0405 gunsmith?

[austere igloo]

choke
ext barrel
no stock
owc tac laser
sleight of hand

[hushed lava]

No thunder rounds?

[austere igloo]

no those suck

better use normal rounds

[hushed lava]

Ok

[ruby iris]

Thunder round is good

In br

[night minnow]

y’all… i’m tryna grind silver camo for sniper and i only have na45 left but it’s pissing me off sm cause i can’t get any long shot anyone have a good build 😭

[rugged jasper]

hellooo

[dawn frigate]

best to wait for hardcore mode mate

[rich arch]

What is hardcore mode??

[dawn frigate]

gun damage is pretty much one shot one kill

it comes on as a featured mode time to time

[rich arch]

Oh

Thanks

[dawn frigate]

great for camo grinding longshots

including shorty etc

[night minnow]

what is that

and when’s the next time it’ll happen

[dawn frigate]

i.. literally just explained it

[night minnow]

sorry man lost quite a large amount of brain cells

from na45

[dawn frigate]

haha all g

you planning on damascus?

[austere igloo]

I dont use hs0 in br

[austere igloo]

Never

[dawn frigate]

._.

[austere igloo]

if damascus looked better maybe I would

alas, it doesn't

[tired grove]

I know

[hoary lagoon]

Ranked lobbies somehow turned into pubs

[digital needle]

Already got damascus on every guns

Easyyy

[viscid belfry]

y

[undone sandal]

worse strafe and worse flinch than light stock

people just gotten used to nostock on qq9

but it isn't that good

[viscid belfry]

then use strike stock

[digital needle]

Flinch doesn't matter

[undone sandal]

you use nostock for the mobility

but light stock is better

strike stock just makes your strafe worse

[rich arch]

ngl, using artic for a bit and I need a fast quickscope artic build, any ideas? (mp and agressive)

[viscid belfry]

but i dont strafr

i just agressive and shoot

no stafes needed

[undone sandal]

how are you aggressive but don't strafe

[viscid belfry]

idk lol

[rich arch]

idk how he doesn't strafe

[viscid belfry]

btw whats strafe

[undone sandal]

moving laterally

[rich arch]

aim ur crosshair and constantly move in certain directions on the person or target

[viscid belfry]

still didnt understood

[austere igloo]

imagine not knowing what strafe is while playing fps shooter games

[ruby iris]

Moving while aiming down sight = strafing

[rich arch]

ngl, using artic for a bit and I need a fast quickscope artic build, any ideas? (mp and agressive)

[ruby iris]

Stack ads speed

[austere igloo]

no

[potent stag]

Its not even a scam but alr

[digital needle]

Ads speed better than strafe

[austere igloo]

debatable

[dreamy thunder]

What guns are the best for geting the either camo?

I'm bored

[mellow sentinel]

Does someone have good gunsmith for koshka ?

[undone sandal]

for undead siege, you're mainly depending on turrets to defend your base
i don't think guns/builds matter that much

[dreamy thunder]

No I mean the camo

For guns

[undone sandal]

yeah, aether crystal

[dreamy thunder]

Yes

[undone sandal]

light supp, light barrel, mobility stock, armor mag, stippled grip

[dreamy thunder]

What guns u guys recommend for geting the either camo

Like idk dlq Locus

Recommend a gun to me so I can get the either for it

Pls don't give me some weird-ass guns

Like na 45 ,pharo

[undone sandal]

lmao

[dreamy thunder]

Some one even said to to get the crossbow eather💀

[undone sandal]

painful

15 kills on 6 separate (won) matches

[dreamy thunder]

Imagine when u don't have the Sr ammo for it and u need to buy it 15 time💀

[undone sandal]

yeah that sucks

costs so much

[mellow sentinel]

Ty

[viscid belfry]

it is like tournament crate where i select which gun i get camo?

[undone sandal]

it isn't a crate

[viscid belfry]

how it is

[undone sandal]

its like diamond grinding

[viscid belfry]

so i need kill with the gun that i want the camo?

[undone sandal]

ye

[viscid belfry]

damn

is it hard?

[undone sandal]

no

only thing hard about it is remembering what guns you already did

[viscid belfry]

ah

whats the difference between hard and nightmare?

@undone sandal

[undone sandal]

more zombies and more rounds

hard is 5
nightmare is 7 iirc

[viscid belfry]

what about kills on camo

[undone sandal]

same req

[viscid belfry]

whats iirc

[viscid belfry]

so hard better?

[undone sandal]

yea, shorter match cuz less rounds

[viscid belfry]

^?

[undone sandal]

if i remember correctly

[viscid belfry]

ah

i always forget what it means

whats a good tip for getting that camo

[undone sandal]

you don't have to manually count how many kills you did (which can be subject to human error)
just look at the scoreboard and check your gun kills

[austere igloo]

I rmbr 8

[viscid belfry]

ok

[ebon sinew]

Anyone has M13/Locus gunsmith?

[tawny isle]

for locus ykm lightweight, owc skelly, owc stopping pwr, tac laser, fmj

[viscid belfry]

lvl 1 m13 lol

[limpid raptor]

what's the best ammo mag for the drh?

[tired grove]

30 round otm mag

[narrow glen]

@dapper relic, 1 Server Rank

[umbral obsidian]

No

[visual bloom]

this is better

[rich arch]

Yo any DLQ builds

Trynna get into more sniping

[undone sandal]

light supp
mip light
combat stock
fmj
ext mag a

[rich arch]

Ty

can i get a locus set-up for cqc

[viscid belfry]

how do i get the halloween things like mythic card and leggy frame?

[undone sandal]

light supp
lightweight short barrel
skeleton stock
stippled grip
fmj/stopping power

[undone sandal]

own all 4 legendary guns

[viscid belfry]

if i get one i can get one thing?

[undone sandal]

no

own all to claim all

[viscid belfry]

so i need all to get all?

ah

damn i wont get it

im trying get leggy holger

dark frontier tbh

[rich arch]

thx

[leaden pike]

Oden build?

Mp

[leaden pike]

I’ve alr got a build now lol

[undone sandal]

[austere igloo]

duplex ammo oden

[undone sandal]

it works

its good

[austere igloo]

oh I know

I'm not doubting it

it's just that it feels weird to have path actually recommend duplex

[undone sandal]

duplex increases 2stk consistency by ~15-20%

i should've moved oden png a bit to the left
looks off, too close to the edge

[slate kettle]

So here is a proper locus build if playing respawns
Skeleton stock
Light barrel
Stippled grip
Stopping power
OWC laser

Snd just change laser to Fmj cuz you don’t need suppressor for locus unless you are camping holding angles "tactically"and don’t want to give away your position but if you want a suppressor on a locus then use DLQ-33 cuz there’s no difference on scope animation speed.

[undone sandal]

i'd rather swap laser to light supp
sp to fmj

and dlq instead of locus sp

[ruby iris]

Blud runs light stock

[undone sandal]

yikes

use skeleton stock, what you running light stock for

[split sierra]

ak-47 mp build

[slate kettle]

Waiityttt

I should run skeleton one

My bad my bad

Im an idiot

[undone sandal]

tac supp
ranger barrel
gran
ext mag a
tac laser

[split sierra]

thxs

[drowsy dagger]

So many people use this lingo

[digital needle]

Recoil control stack ?

Oden already has very less recoil

[narrow glen]

@digital needle, 22 Server Rank

[digital needle]

Most Monke gun in the game

[tropic crescent]

what are the best guns of s5?

[narrow glen]

@tropic crescent, 5 Server Rank

[undone sandal]

we are not in s5

currently s9

[austere igloo]

Dk

[leaden pike]

Kilo, cx9, fennec, cbr, lk24 they are some good ones

[tropic crescent]

Thanks

[tropic crescent]

rank s5

[undone sandal]

lk24, kilo 141 (mythic)
switchblade, fennec, pdw
ul736, holger

no reason to use kilo over lk if you don't have the mythic

[austere igloo]

lk is still meta??

I dont see it much anymore

[leaden pike]

Been nerfed but still decent

[leaden pike]

You don’t need the mythic for kilo

The kilo ironsight isn’t that bad tbh

[ruby iris]

no reason to use kilo over lk if you don't have the mythic

[unreal gale]

LK is better even with kilo mythic imo

It’s more about the LK skin

Since kilo mythic isn’t that big of a difference

[ruby iris]

Lk just messes kilo up

[unreal gale]

Fr

[austere igloo]

Me who uses krig

👀

[undone sandal]

overall better experience

cleaner sights

[undone sandal]

obv

[austere igloo]

doesn't look that obv on my end

[undone sandal]

krig was and still is viable after the nerf but people dropped it
same situation in your case for lk

[unreal gale]

Man UL sucks

[undone sandal]

people just see "nerf" then switch to different gun

[unreal gale]

Hate that gun

Even Holger feels so much better

[austere igloo]

I dropped krig for a bit & then returned to using it

even tho I don't hv the mythic

I can't stand the base krig irons so optics are a must for me for that gun

[unreal gale]

I wouldn’t use Krig at all then

Try kilo or hvk

[undone sandal]

pretty much

[unreal gale]

Lemme try kilo

[north rune]

Is this good for hardpoint

I've got zero experience with it

Should I change any scorestreaks/perks

[tawny walrus]

Are you an objective or a slayer player?

[unreal gale]

Kilo is aight. Switch blade is op

But base is a lot better than the mythic

[unreal gale]

Uhh no

Are you playing pubs, ranked or scrims?

[north rune]

Ranked

[unreal gale]

Alright, the swap out streaks and perks

[north rune]

I'm an snd main, no experience on hp

[north rune]

With what

[unreal gale]

Use pin point if you don’t mind being grimy

Otherwise use skulker

Green I recommend ghost, but quick fix is okay

[digital needle]

No Flak jacket ?

[unreal gale]

Streaks use uav, shock rc, and something medium like Goliath

[digital needle]

Players spamming explosive alot in HP

[unreal gale]

In ranked you don’t need it

Just use trophy

[north rune]

For operator skill?

What should I go for gun too

[unreal gale]

I recommend kinetic armor

LK for gun

[north rune]

Thanks

[autumn salmon]

@rich arch
Agency supp
Taskforce barrel
Large extended mag B
Agile stock/light stock
Firm grip tape

You're welcome!

[unreal gale]

oh I see why cbr is so strong now

it's not because the gun doesn't have recoil or the stats are impressive

it's because the aim assist is quite a lot stronger than other guns

[digital needle]

BR aim assist is insanely Strong

You just control the recoil and let aim assist tracking enemy

[feral harness]

Havent played codm for a long time whats new

[vale lichen]

Grau ironsite 4/10

Use default or Rank up reward skin instead

Umnnm guardian is not a good score streak or atleast for me

Use Goliath for that slot

Hunter killer is ok but advance uav/uav is the best

Idk about perks

[austere igloo]

Best sniper for undead siege

[keen crypt]

Any guns recommendation??

[leaden pike]

Kilo141, lk24, qq9, cbr4, pdw, and a few others I can't think of

[keen crypt]

I've already used all

Is m13 worth using?

[leaden pike]

[leaden pike]

Yes it's decent I think it had a buff

This season

[narrow glen]

@leaden pike, 16 Server Rank

[keen crypt]

M13 or AK117

[leaden pike]

I'd do m13 then the ak117

[keen crypt]

Hmm

How about as val

[leaden pike]

Idk lol

[leaden pike]

That gun dead

[undone sandal]

val fmj is nice

[keen crypt]

ion know what ar to useeee AHHH

[undone sandal]

simple

use a lmf

[keen crypt]

What's lmf

Sorry am dum

[leaden pike]

Use m13

[leaden pike]

Same

[keen crypt]

ahhh

Ima do argus

What attachments for argus

[vale lichen]

Depends

I luv it

[autumn salmon]

Choke
Outlaw barrel
Tac laser
Classical lever
Fast extended mag

[keen gazelle]

amax

[austere igloo]

….Really?

[autumn salmon]

Oh wait, I messed up with the choke

I would never use steady stock because of the strafe penalty

[frosty harbor]

Anyone know some good CBR4 builds?

[obsidian shell]

How to get a lot of kills

[austere igloo]

I use argus for ads anyway

[austere igloo]

[obsidian shell]

By sniping and camping or rush

[austere igloo]

what do u prefer?

[obsidian shell]

Locus sniper

[austere igloo]

just a reminder camping doesnt farm a lot of kills

[austere igloo]

are u quickscoper?

or hardscoper?

[obsidian shell]

Hardscoper

But

[austere igloo]

then play passive

not camp

[obsidian shell]

Im tryna be a quicker

[obsidian shell]

Playing passive is the right word not camp

Also i use spq 208 that marksman and play passive when i rage to cool

[austere igloo]

spr u mean?

[obsidian shell]

Yea

I forgot the name

[austere igloo]

that's a marksman rifle tho

not a sniper

[obsidian shell]

I said exactly that spq 208 the 'marksman'

[weary ermine]

can someone give me good locus and chopper loadout

[narrow glen]

@weary ermine, 1 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

the gun name is "Sp-r 208" in game

not spq

[obtuse dune]

Anyone got an SPR build?

[narrow glen]

@vale lichen, 33 Server Rank

[obtuse dune]

Thanks

[vale lichen]

[odd island]

I dunno people use the spr

It's feels very heavy

And I'm pretty sure it can't one shot in the lower body at 20 meters

[ruby iris]

.300 mag

[odd island]

Even with .300 mag

[ruby iris]

48m

[odd island]

It needs the light bolt

[ruby iris]

Nah

[odd island]

So essentially making it 20 meters

Light bolt

[ruby iris]

Dont run light bolt

[odd island]

But it needs light bolt

[ruby iris]

No it doesnt

Never used light bolt

Since release

[odd island]

You can see the difference

[ruby iris]

That difference doesnt matter

You aint gonna shoot a bolt action at max rpm

Plus knife switching exist

[autumn salmon]

Sks

[ruby iris]

[autumn salmon]

I don't even bother with spr or kilo since the scope in animation is slow with the delay in sprint timing

Which shifts me off

[tawny walrus]

[odd island]

Not gonna help with aggressive sniping

Aggressive sniping is what spr does best

[ruby iris]

Mk2:

Faster ads

Faster rpm

Faster movement

[odd island]

That's if you use the

Uh

[ruby iris]

Base ammo

[odd island]

Low caliber

[ruby iris]

Mk2 got giga buffed

[autumn salmon]

Which season?

[ruby iris]

Last season or so

[odd island]

Mk2 reloads like a shotgun

[autumn salmon]

Like was it recent or no?

Oh

[ruby iris]

Or the one before that

[ruby iris]

We use shotguns for aggro, no?

[odd island]

The only passive marksman is the sks

[odd island]

Yeah but the mk2 I'm pretty sure has 5 bullets.

[ruby iris]

So does spr

[tawny walrus]

So does Kilo.

[odd island]

You aren't exactly gonna use gung ho on a marksman

[odd island]

They reload faster than the mk2

And the kilo has that zesty infinite one shot at lower and upper body

[autumn salmon]

Never knew that

[odd island]

Stopping power reload

[autumn salmon]

Guess I'll have to go through stuff again

1 shot at lower?

Like legs? Or lower body as in stomach area?

[odd island]

Balls

The kilo bolt has a 1.7 multiplier on the balls

[autumn salmon]

Truly a balls momen

[odd island]

I think

[ruby iris]

@tawny walrus

[tawny walrus]

Infinite one shot to stomach? I knew about that.

[ruby iris]

Nah, just a comparision between them

Mk2 is the best aggro

While spr is the best passive

Kilo is inbetween

[rich arch]

i prefer the spr over all marksman rifles

[mystic cedar]

wait fr?

i thought it was versatile

[digital needle]

It doesn't matter

Every sniper and MR can play as passive or Aggressive

[rich arch]

I pefer the mk2

[real crescent]

Why not SPR

[mystic cedar]

same

but i don't like the iron so i use red dot on it

[real crescent]

Why not use 3x

[mystic cedar]

i don't like the design

[obtuse dune]

[real crescent]

It's not about the design it's the sight of view and distance of the enemy

[obtuse dune]

SPR feels clunky and animations are slow

Although it's still fun to use imo

[real crescent]

If your watching that it's game over for you

[obtuse dune]

Ain't no way I'm watching it hence why knife switching exists

[narrow glen]

@obtuse dune, 10 Server Rank

[obtuse dune]

Just feels slow ,but like I said fun to use

[real crescent]

Your on the battlefield and worrying about clunky / design it's about hitting your target and win

[obtuse dune]

Nah design doesn't matter

One thing that is nice is the sound of the gun

[real crescent]

SPR is hunter rifle and adding a scope on top makes it a marksman rifle

[hearty fossil]

Hlo noobs

[mystic cedar]

ofc ofc

[narrow glen]

@hearty fossil, 2 Server Rank

[hearty fossil]

Hlo NOOBS

Are u all okay

[rich arch]

👍

[mystic cedar]

but i don't use MRs a lot so yeah

[real crescent]

If you have it use it to save you life and let your Teammates win

[mystic cedar]

right

i only use scopes on SPR

[paper estuary]

is cx9 good ?

[real crescent]

On how and when you used it add an extended mag and you good if your using it in BR

[lilac adder]

guys

Guys

please

Im begging

give me ak47 and bk57 atachment

[north rune]

Br or what

[tired grove]

AK47 attachments No Stock 40 round extended mag OWC Laser Tactical Granulated Grip OWC Ranger

[narrow warren]

Ak 117

Accuracy dmg

[vale lichen]

Dude he want rds

I already showed him the build

No hope

[tired grove]

Oh, come ON!

[lilac adder]

what is rds? No you didnt show me the ak or bk build

i have the legendry ak so i dont need red dot

[vale lichen]

I did show you ak-117

Buck

[lilac adder]

ak 117?

bruh i need ak47 and bk 54

[narrow glen]

@lilac adder, 4 Server Rank

[vale lichen]

Go to #codm-gunsmith-builds channel

Scroll up 3rd one is ak

[lilac adder]

ok thanks

[vale lichen]

kk

[rich arch]

How's this?

Maybe taskforce might be better, what do you guys think?

Or is this one better?

[tired grove]

2nd one is ok

[rich arch]

Alright, thx bro

[rich arch]

What should I replace for reddot? Rustle grip tape?

[umbral obsidian]

If you want read dot change underbarrel to rds

It doesn’t really need it tho

[terse cobalt]

can't remember when last I used a sight

[unreal gale]

I like this one

[rich arch]

Ye it's currently on trial

I'll see if I like it more than krig

[terse cobalt]

lemme test run it too

[unreal gale]

This is my build

It does pretty well

Not as good as lk and kilo obviously

[brazen tinsel]

Anyone has a very good ak-47 gun build MP?

[rich arch]

Yes:)

[brazen tinsel]

My Oden is so bad 😦 someone has a good Oden MP gunsmith please

[trail flume]

For both mp and br

[brazen tinsel]

Tyvm

[desert wigeon]

I keep changing my AK build, this is great imo though

[trail flume]

Np

[rich arch]

mythic enjoyers when purple ak frost enters the chat

[unreal gale]

That looks good

Apparently frostband is better than the mythic

But who cares, it's all about how the gun looks lol

[trail flume]

It’s mainly built for accuracy and recoil control

[unreal gale]

I mean the skin

[trail flume]

Yh ik

[unreal gale]

But I recommend you drop the laser for mp

[trail flume]

For what

[unreal gale]

I guess ak47 is not competitive enough for you to use it when you're playing seriously

[unreal gale]

Literally anything else

[trail flume]

Like what soh

[unreal gale]

Yeah you could? Idk

But laser is a net negative attachment imo

That laser showing is just not worth it

[trail flume]

Yh true

[terse cobalt]

only in snd tbh

not every1 care in respawns

[unreal gale]

Everyone should

People just don't lol

[trail flume]

Yh

[trim dock]

Madadox build anyone......?

[terse cobalt]

if evy1 cared about every negative effect in the game, the balance would fall negatively

"if it works, it works"

[rich arch]

people with smol brain not realizing a visible laser is an advantage

a persons including yours first instinct when seeing a laser poking out from a doorway is to go kill that person or flank them

if you set up in a position where you can kill the rest of the team that plauer is then forced to take care of you the problem else their team loses

stop playing brain dead folks

they have no choice but to go and engage you if you dont leave your area or else their team will keep getting killed

so you then make your area to your advantage and build a class that can take advantage of it

instesd of mindlessly running around flipping and jumping to rack up kills

[ruby iris]

There should be an enable/disable laser button

[rich arch]

i wonder if the word strategy is in the vocabulary of cod mobile players

[ruby iris]

No

[rich arch]

there already is

its called the ads button

[ruby iris]

You cant have the laser turned off when ads tho

I want like arena breakout's system

[rich arch]

Lol

[ornate jackal]

Bro wants an assistant on codm server

[latent perch]

What the hell

Ah yes i cant wait for a tutor in codm

[visual bloom]

doesn’t your school offer finance classes of something

[ruby iris]

@undone sandal

[umbral obsidian]

Then lasers would be op

[fading harness]

Best argus build?

[rich arch]

if theyre posting on discord for assistants theyre probably a horrible boss lmao

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 8 Server Rank

[rich arch]

no.

[unreal gale]

What? Don't get what you're saying there

Also you're making the point that we shouldn't care about downsides of attachments. Well obviously, since basically every attachment has a downside.
And if it works, it works, I agree.
Except laser doesn't work. That's the problem

[terse cobalt]

lazers have a plus ads time and some with sprint to fire delay buff which I value most

down side being the visible sights

now if u consider every downside in the game even as little as a pixelated lazer light, then you'll have to start playing in a logically realist way like worry about how much recoil u have to handle, how much bullets u need, how silenced is ur gun like its irl

then coming to ur point

lazers are technically a downside but practically, which matters most, it doesn't matter unless u mean to camp

it's about the practical... that's one thing about codm that I learnt

some things are technically better but practically ineffective

[unreal gale]

Okay, first of all that’s not what lasers do. Main plus about laser is that it improves bsa and reduces ads time where other bsa attachments usually increase it, or it preserves the movement speed that’s lost to other bsa attachments. But regardless, bsa is the main plus

2. Please don’t bring out the pixels on a screen argument. Don’t play the game at all if you think it’s that trivial.

3. Lasers are bad. They giveaway your position and tells people you’re hardscoping, which means you lose a ton of easy kills. You know what’s better than the 10% ads time improvement? Being already scoped in. So no, it’s not for camping. It’s for pre aiming. If you’re camping, everyone knows where you are anyway.

Lasers are exactly what you said. Technically better but practically ineffective.

That’s why no one runs them in any lobby that’s at all competitive. If you’re playing low rank lobbies or pubs, then who cares what you run, go pistol main if you want, doesn’t matter.

[odd island]

It REALLY just depends on how you play.

Why are you both arguing

[undone sandal]

lasers are good depending on the weapon category

if you're talking about ar, smg, lmg, sg, pistol
then yes, laser is worth considering as it both boosts ads time and reduces ads/hipfire spread by a considerable amount

if you're talking about sr, marksman
then no, laser is most if not always a downside. the ads time and stf delay benefits are insignificant (reduces ads/stf by 1 frame due to frame rounding)

[rugged jasper]

helloo:D

[undone sandal]

yes, lasers (5mw and tactical) reveal your position but they can be hidden

• 5mw laser disappears if you ads
• tac laser disappears if you're not ads'ed

yes, you can hide lasers by tactical crosshair placements

• not opening revealing laser in an open field but rather putting it behind something like a wall

[ornate jackal]

Ima say this simply i dont see a lot of holgers or m13 builds without lasers
I see like zero laser sniper builds

[keen gazelle]

both guns can do without laser

idk the argument rn but if its m13 and holger or other guns need it

they definitely dont lol, for holger it just boosts ads time and same for m13 since the thing already has good bsa

[keen gazelle]

also i just saw the build with the laser lol

as if the ak doesnt already had a stupid small bsa

[unreal gale]

I feel like most gunsmithers don't play the game or something

like who actually uses laser? even in ranked, who uses laser in a serious lobby?

[keen gazelle]

i rarely use them

like if you match up videos of with and without

the ads difference is noticeable but in game you wont feel it

at least i dont

me personally ive never used the laser and told myself “this is better”

[unreal gale]

I feel like laser is only justified if you're using like fennec or something where hard scoping actually doesn't do anything

otherwise you spend most of you time hardscoping angles for like literally every single game mode

[keen gazelle]

if i badly need the bsa ill use it but i havnt used a gun like that besides the chopper a couples a times

i could see myself using it on the sx9 maybe

the msmc, anything with shart bsa lol

[unreal gale]

I mean you could just opt for some gran grip tape or some tac fore grip a

[unreal gale]

hm sx9 maybe yeah

[keen gazelle]

yk how many time i got sh*t on for using tac a

[unreal gale]

since you can definitely use it like a fennec

[keen gazelle]

i fuc*ing love tac foregrip a

its my favorite for soo many cause its just free bsa

[unreal gale]

I use the equivalent of tac foregrip a on my cbr

that thing beams and.... there's no laser!

I'm starting to question whether disable is worth it on the cbr

[rich arch]

?what that sounds like a claw problem

theres a minority of players that play like that

no wonder u hate the laser mfer

youre playing weird asf

[unreal gale]

for people who play the game at least somewhat seriously, claw is super popular. thumbs is for sure the minority.
and also, clean up your language please.

[tight cargo]

i love my fennec, its so amazing, i cant hit anything because i cant see my target

[unreal gale]

use red dot

if you don't have the mythic or a skin like the death engine, red dot is actually standard build

[tight cargo]

i dont red dot is gonna help it

[unreal gale]

but you could also just use switch blade for a similar playstyle with much better ironsights

or just use base cbr lol

that gun is broken

[tight cargo]

idk i think a red dot might help the +20.8% vertical recoil and +3.2% horizontal aswell as +37% ads bullet spread

its also got a 3x scope

[undone sandal]

lmao what build are you using

[tight cargo]

I dont know the attachments off the top of my head but its a stock, a supressor, a 3x, a grip and a barrel I think

I know its the monolithic supressor

and no stock

[undone sandal]

y 3x

[tight cargo]

Because my friend didnt like it

he said it made him cry

[undone sandal]

wild build

[tight cargo]

I cant hit anything with it

Im not even gonna try

monolithic suppressor, mip light barrel short, 3x tact scope 2, no stock and stippled grip tape

on one hand its really inaccurate
on the other great mobility ig

[autumn salmon]

Handling fennec's recoil is very easy but I can understand the problem for newbies

[tight cargo]

I love the fennec
Ive got it to some mastery rank i forgot what

[tight cargo]

nice gun

[autumn salmon]

Try these builds

[tight cargo]

Im good, thanks though, Id rather stick to being unaware of better builds than my own

cant be sad about other people weilding a gun better if you dont know whats good and whats not good

[unreal gale]

uhh, well vertical recoil is good

so just attachments that stack vertical recoil

[north rune]

Vertical recoil can be useful sometimes

Because if you aim at legs or chest then it'll guide you to the head

[terse cobalt]

honestly dunno why he's so disturbed the lasers

it's a downside yes

but not as bad as you're considering it like it's the worse attachment

[wanton meadow]

Ffar 1 ads loadout?

[terse cobalt]

@unreal gale I'm an SMG main, I don't sit in a corner long enough for some unfortunate player fast enough to flank me, and being on the move is enough to have your sights down enough to make it invisible, and I mentioned the word "pixelated" regarding how thin the lazer is (so don't raise it with me lol)

like @odd island mentioned, it still depends how you play. every comes with its merits and demerits and the lazer has more merits for me

and I don't use lazers for bsa, but for sprint2fire delay

[undone sandal]

that's fine

[terse cobalt]

"VERY" easy is an overstatement lol
sure we got used to it unlike some crazy smgs with mad horizontal recoil

[unreal gale]

I was talking about tactical laser, which is what most people use for laser. the 5mw laser is basically only used for hipfiring, and is kinda super unpopular.

You also gotta drop the "sitting in corners" lol.

[unreal gale]

I agree that people have their own playstyles, and if you're just running around the map, ig sure you do you

but it's no coincidence that most people don't use lasers in even ranked, hp at least

if you don't hardscope angles, you're missing out on free kills + good hp holds. Idk what modes you play, but holding angles is for sure the meta in hp

if you hardscope with a laser, people will either prefire you or just avoid your entrance. Aiming on the wall and flicking is inconsistent enough to not justify the 10% bsa (that you could've gotten from other attachments anyway)

this discussion is getting to the point where we should just agree to disagree, but the original context was a dude using ak47 in mp.

so yeah, no laser.

[terse cobalt]

now u didn't specify the lazer all this time now did u

[unreal gale]

look at the original context lol. love how you're the one stone facing me

[terse cobalt]

u mean this?

[terse cobalt]

or this

[unreal gale]

I'm talking about his laser

the one he was using on his AK

plus laser means tac laser 99% of the time

so it's quite bizzare for you infer the 5mw laser...

[terse cobalt]

that's cultural context, u can't expect every1 to interpret your meaning to the word "laser" referring to a specific laser

and every1 was referring to all lasers in general

[little bison]

whats going on here..

[terse cobalt]

lol

[unreal gale]

cultural context? what are you saying mate

[little bison]

yall arguing about lasers..

[unreal gale]

and who is everyone? you mean just you?

[terse cobalt]

just me? lmao

about 3 ppl contributed to this talk

[unreal gale]

okay let's take one step back

[terse cobalt]

[unreal gale]

5mw laser isn't even in the equation

there's like 3 guns in the game that benefit from that attachment

[terse cobalt]

crayzee

[unreal gale]

the only laser that is even worth talking about is the tactical laser

and that's the one everyone's talking about

[terse cobalt]

[unreal gale]

lmao it's actually so funny how you're the one spamming that emote

[terse cobalt]

ikr

[little bison]

replace gran woth steady stock

[unreal gale]

I don't really get why people stack bsa for fennec

[terse cobalt]

ppl who build an smg like it's an ar

[unreal gale]

at the range where bsa matters, fennec is a pea shooter

[unreal gale]

well you gotta build the right smgs

building fennec like an ar is a ??? move

[little bison]

we're not stacking bsa on the fennec its kinda like range and recoil boosting

[unreal gale]

gran tape and steady stock don't affect recoil or range though...

[terse cobalt]

a few smgs exist that can do the long range well, but evr1 seems to want to use all of them like it's an AK

[unreal gale]

I stack my cbr

[little bison]

horizontal recoil:

[unreal gale]

you kinda have to post nerf

[unreal gale]

dude you're really worring about horizontal recoil on the fennec? 🗿

[terse cobalt]

fennec has ads spread, not horizontal recoil no?

[little bison]

well you have to at medium range because fennec has high recoil (unless your a god)

[terse cobalt]

there's a difference but look alike

[unreal gale]

there's uhh, kinda a more pressing recoil you should take care of won't you agree?

[terse cobalt]

mx9 is the father of horizontal recoil

[unreal gale]

pdw has a bunch too

can't control that gun

[terse cobalt]

ion even use that thing

even with the buff

[unreal gale]

the vertical recoil matters a LOT more

plus you're kinda trying to avoid mid range fights with fennec

[odd island]

Ads cancels sprint to fire delay tho

[little bison]

vertical is easy to control imo

[unreal gale]

I personally don't understand why people don't run rubberized on fennec

[odd island]

Yeah

[unreal gale]

that attachment makes perfect sense to me

[odd island]

They even do it with shotguns

[terse cobalt]

"smg main"

[little bison]

bsa will suck

[odd island]

Smg main

[terse cobalt]

.

[odd island]

That means....?

[unreal gale]

you don't need bsa for 10m gunfights though

[terse cobalt]

I hipfire more often

[unreal gale]

which smg?

[odd island]

So that's what it was

[terse cobalt]

what

[unreal gale]

what smg do you main

[terse cobalt]

OXR

[unreal gale]

qxr?

[terse cobalt]

.

[unreal gale]

and you use 5mw on that?

[terse cobalt]

?

[unreal gale]

you use the 5mw laser on qxr?

[terse cobalt]

no

[unreal gale]

super curious about your build

oh that ox9 gun?

[little bison]

why dont people use m4lmg that much

its so fun

[unreal gale]

because it sucks

[terse cobalt]

wacchu getting at

[odd island]

People who hip fire have no confidence in their ability to aim while aiming down

[unreal gale]

I literally don't understand why anyone would use the 5mw laser attachment

[terse cobalt]

lmfao

[unreal gale]

like what gun? what are you trying to do with that?

[autumn salmon]

That is what I meant to say, for people that have been playing this game for a while, controlling fennec is really easy since we have gotten used to it, what I meant to focus on was that for newbies it'll be harsh

[unreal gale]

I think fennec is pretty hard to control

you can't really beam with it

[autumn salmon]

No, the strafe penalty is not worth it

[odd island]

The fennec is easy to control because of its fire rate

[unreal gale]

but then you're not really supposed to

[autumn salmon]

Yep

[odd island]

It's VERY forgiving on time to kill

[terse cobalt]

yuh

[autumn salmon]

Fennec is good for cqc and mid ranges

[undone sandal]

its forgiving to miss your shots

cuz of the high firerate

[odd island]

Yup

[unreal gale]

just don't miss trust

it's meta

[odd island]

Fennec recoil pattern is manageable

Even for newbies

[unreal gale]

I don't think recoil pattern has anything to do with skill lol

top players use no recoil guns across the board

[odd island]

If you think recoil patterns don't matter then you are wrong

[unreal gale]

explain to me where I'm wrong

[terse cobalt]

recoil pattern doesn't add up anymore when you need to track, and fennec is not built for long distance

[unreal gale]

and also clarify what you mean by "don't matter"

[undone sandal]

depends on what you mean by “top players”

[odd island]

Example

Hvk

And the cx9

[unreal gale]

top ranked, comp, top everything

[odd island]

The cx9 you can feel it's horizontal jump.

[unreal gale]

people either stack recoil or use guns like cbr

or hvk

or lk

or kilo

[undone sandal]

ranked and comp are different in playstyles

[unreal gale]

fennec too ig

[little bison]

if your talking abt the m4lmg it doesnt really suck it has alright range, good bsa and little recoil

[undone sandal]

ranked is a shitfest

anything can thrive

[unreal gale]

but compared to the alternatives, it's pretty bad

[unreal gale]

top ranked

[little bison]

true but its decent enough for noobs to wield

[unreal gale]

uhh, holger and ul are much better for that

even rpd is significantly better

dingo is better

m4lmg is one of the worst guns iirc

[little bison]

eh each of us as a opinion of each gun

[unreal gale]

no, but m4lmg is objectively one of the worst guns in the game

not saying you can't do well with it. That's more to do with player skill

but objectively, the gun sucks

[digital needle]

No opinion .. i already hate every LMG users

[unreal gale]

Is it just me or does the base switch blade have a stupid amount of aim assist?

[little bison]

you must be really good then if you think so

[ornate jackal]

[rich arch]

what's the fastest sniper (except locus)

[austere igloo]

U mean fastest ads sniper? Outlaw

[rich arch]

oh

[austere igloo]

Outlaw has the quickest ads time among all snipers

[rich arch]

outlaw

hmm

ok

[austere igloo]

If you’re talking abt mobility, it’s prolly arctic

But tbh, snipers aren’t built for mobility

[rich arch]

yeah

[austere igloo]

So they won’t be fast

At least mobility-wise

[rich arch]

just looking for a fast ads gun

[austere igloo]

But ads speed u can make it fast

[austere igloo]

Yea outlaw

[rich arch]

got any loadouts, it's fine if you don't got.

[austere igloo]

That’s the sniper with the fastest ads

[austere igloo]

Here u go ^

[rich arch]

alr

thanks

[austere igloo]

Alternatively u can use this @rich arch

If u want more ammo

[rich arch]

alr

thanks

what u think of kosha?

[austere igloo]

Koshka u mean?

It’s alright

[rich arch]

yeah

[austere igloo]

Solid 7/10

[rich arch]

just new to sniper

I switched from argus to sniper

[austere igloo]

Koshka is dlq’s little bro

[austere igloo]

You shouldn’t have switched

Argus is a good sniper

[rich arch]

since I like one shot kills

.

well-

it's a shotgun

[austere igloo]

No it’s a sniper disguised as a shotgun

[rich arch]

im looking for a longer scope

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

Longer range u mean

[rich arch]

yesn

[austere igloo]

But argus has good enough range

[rich arch]

not good in english

I can't rlly see when I ads tho

[austere igloo]

Argus has very long hit range for a shotgun

[rich arch]

yes

[austere igloo]

Other shotguns don’t even have it

It makes it look like a sniper

[rich arch]

cause it's meant for hip

[austere igloo]

Huh? No

Argus is not meant for hip

[rich arch]

the other shotguns.

[austere igloo]

Ads

[rich arch]

not argus.

[austere igloo]

Oh

[rich arch]

I know argus