codm-gunsmith-help

[visual bloom]

try this build

strike fg kills ads movement speed

[lucid zealot]

M4?

[visual bloom]

yes

[ornate jackal]

Yes

[lucid zealot]

Ok ill try it ty

[ebon sinew]

This works in any game modes?

[ornate jackal]

I mean i wouldnt recommend switchblade in br but yeah

[ebon sinew]

ima use it mainly in MP

[tawny isle]

here

[lucid zealot]

Noice

[unreal gale]

What’s the meta dingo gunsmith?

I feel I there are 8 good attachments

How’s this?

@ruby iris

[dusty heart]

No mag?

[icy compass]

Guys i need a oden for br

[clear girder]

Has 80

[ruby iris]

Stock to foregrip imo

Dingo has really good mag attachments tbh

Too bad the gun is shit

[rich arch]

using the dingo made me sad

[dusty heart]

No clue why cx9 got a buff

[viscid belfry]

dingo its a fun lmg

[dusty heart]

Guess I’ll do even better than 32/9

[viscid belfry]

it was too "heavy" for a smg

[dusty heart]

It’s literally a no recoil qxr

[viscid belfry]

i mean like at ads movement

and others

the only problem is sight

bc its a nice smg

[dusty heart]

Sight problems?

[viscid belfry]

lol

i like spectate u with that mythic ngl

u good

alot

[dusty heart]

Huh

What’s your username?

[viscid belfry]

Jade and a heart

[dusty heart]

Oh

[viscid belfry]

dont need remove

i dont inv u to dont bother

[dusty heart]

Nah I don’t mind you on there

[viscid belfry]

good:D

i like ur snd games

[clear girder]

Mhm

[viscid belfry]

can find alot global

[clear girder]

Cx9 is

[dusty heart]

Yeah I’m nearing 10k so it’s inevitable

[clear girder]

Just the asses that tiptoe with ds and ghost and put it into my ass

[viscid belfry]

damn nice

[dusty heart]

I’ve been trying hardpoint recently

[viscid belfry]

i close got 10k at anime series

[dusty heart]

Cx9 rocks in it

[viscid belfry]

i was 9.5k

[clear girder]

I'm at 10k rn

[dusty heart]

I was 23k in that season lol

[clear girder]

Got it yesterday

[dusty heart]

My first top5k

[viscid belfry]

nice

[rich arch]

me trying to make friends with tac flashlight in snd isnt working

[clear girder]

Highest I've gotten was 13.9k

Fucking ass

[rich arch]

why are they shooting me, are they stupid?!?

[clear girder]

I'm aiming for 15k this sewsob

[viscid belfry]

tac flashlight sucks

[rich arch]

tac flashlight makes the world go round

its the peaceful option

[dusty heart]

Anyways I started maining krm in snd and select tdm maps

[viscid belfry]

i only play tdm

everyone laughs at tdm idk y

[clear girder]

Dogshit gamemode

[viscid belfry]

see

[clear girder]

Shrapnel trip mine akimbo sykov hardscoping fuck heads

[viscid belfry]

skill issue then

lol

[dusty heart]

I like tdm as a warmup,my teammates throw so much it’s not a surprise,so idrc abt that anymore,whenever I lose it’s like -1-(-10) exp anyways

[clear girder]

Erm sckill issuew 🤓☝️

[unreal gale]

Bruh Holger is so busted

[viscid belfry]

thats y its nice

[rich arch]

[clear girder]

I'm starting a remove hilger from video game petition

[narrow glen]

@clear girder, 25 Server Rank

[dusty heart]

Bullet impact being added for lmgs was a huge buff for it ngl

[viscid belfry]

whats to be bullet impact

[dusty heart]

Its already added

[visual bloom]

.300 or .338 on spr for zombies

[dusty heart]

Basically when you shoot someone with an lmg/sniper/marksman they flinch more

And select ammo on some ars/smgs

[viscid belfry]

ah

so more its worse?

[dusty heart]

More flinch basically affects long range fights yeah

[viscid belfry]

ah ok

thanks for explaining

[dusty heart]

So basically don’t try challenging lmg at range

Or you won’t hit much shots and die

[unreal gale]

Do you use Holger?

Pro Holger build trust

[rich arch]

i press f for doubting

operator foregrip

[dusty heart]

Why do you have recoil issues

[rich arch]

i never buff vertical recoil cause its easy to counter it, always go horizontal instead cause you cant really control that

[dusty heart]

Monolithic on too so it’s not really accurate

[unreal gale]

Mono adds so much range though

I was debating dropping mono

But 24m to 30m 4 shot range is kinda huge

[unreal gale]

The easier the gun is to use, the better it is :D

Full Stacking recoil and bsa makes the gun hard to use because it’s too slow

So gotta find the sweet spot

[dusty heart]

You lose alot of bsa and a bit of mobility which is not good tho

[dusty heart]

Just use the standard build,but use pinpoint and toughness

[unreal gale]

It’s like 7% bsa and 5% ads speed

Standard runs laser

Which is cringe on slow ads weapons

[dusty heart]

Laser gives even more bsa

[unreal gale]

But it’s laser

[dusty heart]

Switch it out for smth else then

That’s Not a foregrip

[unreal gale]

foregrip eliminates all recoil

so you can just prefire and spray

I feel like there's a misconcpetion that slow ads guns need laser

[dusty heart]

I’m not slapping that ugly ass foregrip on a mythic holger

[unreal gale]

slow ads guns are actually the ones that you definitely should not use laser on

[dusty heart]

You’ve committed felony

[unreal gale]

the solution to miserable ads speed isn't trying your best to make up for it

[dusty heart]

I’m aware,but holger needs the bsa

[unreal gale]

the solution is to just pre ads and hardscop

[dusty heart]

Not mobility

[unreal gale]

Eh, I feel like its bsa is okay

[dusty heart]

The mobility is just a plus from the laser

[unreal gale]

Side point: Ads speed isn’t really mobility though

[dusty heart]

There was a non laser build for the mythic but forgot what the other attach was

[rich arch]

me building my krig to look like a sniper be like

grau**

[unreal gale]

One of my friends who mains Holger runs ranger grip instead of op grip

But I personally don’t think the bsa is that bad

[dusty heart]

You preaim faster basically

[unreal gale]

You don’t need to pre aim faster though

[dusty heart]

I def felt it when I was vs headglitchers

[unreal gale]

If anything, that just decreases your mobility

[unreal gale]

Eh ig. I’m just playing shipment rn lol

[rich arch]

doesnt holger have like one of the worst bsas

[unreal gale]

Literally zero games

Searched for about 35min last night. All modes. Nothing

[dusty heart]

To balance it out yh

[unreal gale]

Hm maybe I’ll use ranger grip then

But laser is definite no

On Holger at least

[dusty heart]

I give up

[unreal gale]

Ranger grip boosts bsa

By a lot too

[dusty heart]

There’s another grip that does that

And you don’t lose much

[unreal gale]

Tactical?

[dusty heart]

Fg b?

Yh

-5% strafe iirc

[unreal gale]

But not vertical recoil

Not good

[dusty heart]

My brother in Christ pull down

Or use pinpoint

[unreal gale]

I use pin point

But still, I like my guns to have no recoil

[dusty heart]

HOW ARE YOU HAVING VERT RECOIL ISSUES

Pinpoint pulls the gun down for you

[unreal gale]

I mean I’m going for a level of stability that allows me to cross map beam head glitches

Any bit of recoil makes it kinda hard

[dusty heart]

Are you like that one person in hardpoint that’s nowhere to be seen near the hardpoint

[unreal gale]

Uh, not exactly

[dusty heart]

Anchor or whatever

[unreal gale]

I’m more like the guy who either holds the spawn or just holds that one angle that stops everyone who coming close

[dusty heart]

Use sks if you’re anchoring crossmap or smth

[dusty heart]

I don’t think this really works most of the time

[unreal gale]

Sks is cringe imo

[dusty heart]

Considering there’s multiple spawns

[ruby iris]

Ppsh:

[unreal gale]

Super hard to use

[unreal gale]

Nah trust me it works xD

Actually idk

Idk how it reflects win rate

I main LK

I’m just using Holger because fun

[dusty heart]

The noob gun

Lk

[unreal gale]

LK is just good

Like literally

[dusty heart]

Nah y’all just can’t control recoil

It felt too braindead for me to use

[unreal gale]

Kinda like if hvk had a -mobility attachment that gives it 50 bullets

Ease of use + good ttk = good gun

[ruby iris]

Yk @woven hound ?

[dusty heart]

No

[unreal gale]

LK has t1 ttk and is super easy to use

[ruby iris]

Tl;dr: guy won a recoil control competition

[unreal gale]

Tf is a recoil control competition

[ruby iris]

And still chose to recoil stack when he plays regularly

[dusty heart]

People have their preferences I guess

[dusty heart]

My question too

[ruby iris]

Max recoil build, try your best to spray straight

[unreal gale]

Ohhh

[ruby iris]

Cyg stuff

[unreal gale]

But anyway, stacking recoil is meta

Aim > movement

Hp > snd

[ruby iris]

[unreal gale]

LK > Krig

Okay bye

[ruby iris]

Why bother controlling recoil when attachments do it for you

[unreal gale]

^^

[ruby iris]

[dusty heart]

Why bother move when attachments anchor you

[unreal gale]

Why bother learning a new gun when you can just stack recoil so it’s the same as the previous no recoil gun

[ruby iris]

Exactly

Moving is overrated

[unreal gale]

^^

[rich arch]

why bother aiming when you can stack -bullet spread accuracy so the gun RNG rolls kills for you

[unreal gale]

Try in shipment trust

Strong build

[dusty heart]

I hope you shoot yourself with it

[ruby iris]

I'd use tac supp and tac fg

Or just straight up jump the ship and run another lmg

[unreal gale]

Nah, there’s not enough recoil

[dusty heart]

[unreal gale]

Do you not think the 6m extra 4 shot range is worth it?

[ruby iris]

Not if bsa is nuked

[unreal gale]

I feel like the Holger has pretty good bsa though

[ruby iris]

I use laser + tac supp

[unreal gale]

Laser is bad though

[ruby iris]

[unreal gale]

Alr I’ll drop the mono

[dusty heart]

Oh now you drop it

[rich arch]

Day 1320 of me asking codm to please add m1014

[ruby iris]

Laser lowkey is the only thing keeping holger relevant

Cuz without laser you dont have enough bsa

And tac fg nukes strafe

[dusty heart]

Isn’t that the by15?

[ruby iris]

No

[rich arch]

bruh m1014 is semi

[unreal gale]

Laser is instant death on slow ads weapons though

[ruby iris]

Benelli m4 sounds cooler

[unreal gale]

You can’t pre aim or hard scope

= rip

[dusty heart]

There’s a shotgun that looks like by15 with similar m10 name

[rich arch]

tru

[dusty heart]

Hide the laser

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 11 Server Rank

[dusty heart]

Then break your finger when you see the enemy

Works every time

[unreal gale]

Flick not worth

Bruh

Fricking dead game

[umbral obsidian]

more liek sbmm

[hallow sky]

Bro your probably just on at the wrong time

Some people sleep-

[tawdry vault]

Yeah, some people have lives

Unlike a certain someone

[half grotto]

What is the best close range weapon that isn’t a shotgun for mp?

[winter cedar]

other game like mobile legend had the same thing, but I guess its either your rank is too high or there's very little online players in your server

[tawdry vault]

From what Ive seen, smgs, and what Ive used, mac10 works pretty well

[umbral obsidian]

qq9

fennec

cx9

[austere igloo]

I’m still waiting for an explanation for how m16 wildfire is better than m16 burst

Forget abt the auto-fire

[austere igloo]

QQ9 certified goat

[viscid belfry]

rds

[austere igloo]

It’s preset bruh

I’m not using this particular qq9 blueprint

I’m just putting the camo on it to show that it matches the blueprint

[viscid belfry]

ah ok mb

diamond better lol

[leaden pike]

Overated and absolutely terrible

[viscid belfry]

y?

obv its overated

the best camo

[stiff hatch]

Fuck my life every time I get hackers

Fuck the snipers can shoot we die

Fucking hackers

[hallow sky]

Sorry but my toleration of idiots is low

How is it a terrible camo. You never gotten it is why?

Literal enhancements

[leaden pike]

I had it on my dlq zealot before I lost the pass of the acc

I didn't like it

[hallow sky]

Bro just has a bad opinion because he chose one of the worst skins to have diamond on lol

These epic are better than zealot with diamond. Just get better skins lol

[tawdry vault]

What gun should I try diamond for first?

[hallow sky]

Which ever you favour using most

[tawdry vault]

I cant figure that out

[hallow sky]

Maybe a mega then or an off meta

Pp-bizon is always a good option

Or maybe a pistol like the dobvra or lcar

[tawdry vault]

Hm...

[lost relic]

I love pine 24/7.

Absolutely great time.

[austere igloo]

Hackers

[austere igloo]

I prefer king

[stiff hatch]

Hi

[austere igloo]

ih

[light nebula]

I need a switchblade gunsmith pls

[austere igloo]

Tactical supp
Extended barrel
Light stock
Granulated
Extended mag

can switch out light stock for laser

[north rune]

Well, I personally don't like diamond

It ruins designs and color of my legendary gun and good epics

I only grinded diamond camo to show it off on safe house with all diamond

[tawdry vault]

Heres a good counter argument: Nuh-uh

Diamond is sick as fuck

It makes it better, not ruin it

[coarse stream]

I kind of agree with him

But in the end, it's all just personal opinion really

[north rune]

It's personal preference

[narrow glen]

@north rune, 37 Server Rank

[north rune]

I like some guns with diamond

Some guns not

I have diamond on many guns but I don't use them

[coarse stream]

For me, whether I use diamon or not depends on if I have a good skin for that gun

But I generally don't use it

[north rune]

Some examples

With and without

Without diamond it goes better with my character

[tawdry vault]

Counter argument: who cares if it goes with the character? Ive never seen anyone care if it matched

[lost relic]

King is nice and big, but I like Gulag the most. I just like the gunfight & 1v1 duel gamemodes offered in pine 24/7.

[tawdry vault]

1v1 always puts me against people who can fly across the map and snipe my ass before my game can even register that the match started

[coarse stream]

🤣

Sounds like you'd have a great time

[tawdry vault]

Oh, A GREAT TIME

Yeah, I love a game of 10-4

[coarse stream]

If only I was so good I couldn't relate

[narrow glen]

@coarse stream, 9 Server Rank

[north rune]

Who care abt your opinion tho

[austere igloo]

[tawdry vault]

Who cares if it matches? Its a fucking gun

[austere igloo]

in that case I shall use yogurt manta ray with default guns with no camos

[tawdry vault]

Go right ahead

[austere igloo]

or spec ops 1 with my legendary gun

[tawdry vault]

Still just a gun

Ive seen spec ops 1 with prestige Ak

[hallow sky]

Respectfully. Don’t talk about diamond camo ever again

[tawdry vault]

Nothing new

[austere igloo]

diamond is good

[tawdry vault]

Yes it is

[austere igloo]

better than damascus

[hallow sky]

Exactly

[lost relic]

I like platinum camo; makes it more fun to microwave my guns when I wrap em in aluminum foil.

[tawdry vault]

But it shouldn't matter if a cosmetic addition to a weapon matches some vtuber the army just stole

[hallow sky]

Each weapon skin suits a different camo. But you never ever downplay or dismiss diamond

[tawdry vault]

Absolutely

[austere igloo]

heck, I'd say fluorescence is the better damascus camo

[hallow sky]

Damascus is ass

[austere igloo]

fluorescence has that shine to it that damascus doesn't

[tawdry vault]

Golden emerald looks better than dam

[hallow sky]

I’ve only ever seen Damascus suit 1 weapon skin I have

[austere igloo]

uhh that's debatable tbh

[tawdry vault]

Hell, pixel aggression is better than dam

[austere igloo]

golden emerald fits with hs2126 pig dynasty

[tawdry vault]

Damascus ass

[austere igloo]

bruh why?

pixel aggression is bathroom tile camo

[tawdry vault]

Still better than having lsd as a camo

[austere igloo]

what?

[hallow sky]

This is all Damascus works with

The only one I will accept because it complements the skin ok

[austere igloo]

nice

[north rune]

Idk, diamond on legendary toxic chopper makes it look like default skin

[austere igloo]

LOL

show me

[hallow sky]

Bro because chopper has the worst skins ever

Most recent is the only good legendary skin it has

[tawdry vault]

Chopper kinda sucks imo

[austere igloo]

except red action

[austere igloo]

it has its niche but it's not really top tier

[hallow sky]

It’s over rated

Tbh I want to see type 25 make it’s comeback in the community

[tawdry vault]

Yeah

[austere igloo]

tbh I find holger more overrated

[hallow sky]

I find lmgs overrated

[austere igloo]

holger is only used a lot bcoz of "ranked warriors"

[tawdry vault]

Holger, qq9, dlq, etc; all overrated imo

[austere igloo]

I guarantee u if they reverted holger to its pre-buff stage nobody would touch this gun at all

[north rune]

They recolored it and made it legendary

[austere igloo]

Oi don't talk shit about my qq9

[hallow sky]

Dlq lost its niche a few seasons back.

[austere igloo]

qq9 is goated not overrated

cbr is the overrated one

[austere igloo]

lazy effort

just like rpd practical joker

[tawdry vault]

Oh, boo hoo; im sorry if Im tired of a dual kinetics qq9 beats my ass

87 times in A ROW

[hallow sky]

Rus 79u is a secret god gun

[austere igloo]

dual kinetic qq9 mythic is meh tbh

I prefer using the legendary & epic qq9s

qq9 albatross > qq9 dual kinetics

[tawdry vault]

Agr underrated

[hallow sky]

Qq9 malicious intent is god tier epic skin

[austere igloo]

where're my pdw guys at?

[austere igloo]

which one is that again?

[north rune]

That's why they put it in a bundle for 1000cp

[tawdry vault]

Pdw is picking up steam recently

[north rune]

Now most of garena players have it

[hallow sky]

The one that came in mythic em2

[tawdry vault]

Agr and ksp really are just gathering dust

[hallow sky]

This one

[north rune]

Do you have diamond Qq9 golden decree

[hallow sky]

Ksp deserves the dust

[tawdry vault]

Ksp is cool, ig; used it once; its neat

Went badass with it on shipment

[hallow sky]

I feel like you can’t rate a hun based on how it plays on shipment

[tawdry vault]

Oh, i know

[hallow sky]

You have to play every map and mode to say if a guns hood or not

[tawdry vault]

I did; its nice

[hallow sky]

Cx9 is a monster for SnD and domination

Can be powerful in tdm and frontline too

[tawdry vault]

Cx9 is annoying, but its good

Its so silent

[hallow sky]

Problem with cx9 is the hit delay

I feel like it needs a minor buff

[tawdry vault]

Recoil I find is a little much

[hallow sky]

Nah recoil is fine

It’s when the recoil starts to go down is the weird part

[tawdry vault]

How so? Wouldn't that be good, having it go down?

More of a chance to hit that way

[hallow sky]

Nope

Cause it does it around the 46th bullet mark

It’s useless and pulls you down to legs almost instantly

[tawdry vault]

That... Sounds like an issue

[hallow sky]

Yeah it is

Worse in zombies omg

[hallow sky]

I will say the reload is pretty cool though

I feel like more could’ve been done with the cx9 reload

It feels weak compared to other mythics

Almost just a repeat of the dlq

[hallow sky]

Oh I didn’t even check that stuff

Sweet af

Welp my first mythic is just getting better now lol

[light nebula]

Best builds for mp ranked? I keep losing games

[tawdry vault]

There isn't exactly a single best build; there's multiple builds for multiple people; plus there's skill involved

[light nebula]

well what's are good builds for ranked

And wdym by multiple ppl?

[tawdry vault]

Different builds for different people

[light nebula]

like playstyles?

[tawdry vault]

Sort of

Let me explain

[light nebula]

i'm like an aggro passive player

[tawdry vault]

Many builds can come from a single gun, whether that be long range or hip fire, and people have preferences; so, as of such, there are different and multiple builds for different and multiple people

[light nebula]

Ohh

Well I want a gun that's like medium close range

but idk

[tawdry vault]

Alright, any preference for gun type?

[light nebula]

Like

Smg or assault

[tawdry vault]

Alright, let me open my game and take a look

[light nebula]

Ok thanks

[tawdry vault]

These were my readily available mid range assault and smg builds

@light nebula

[light nebula]

Tysm🔥🙏

[tawdry vault]

Mhm

[brittle tulip]

Is The Krig 6 still Meta? If yes have sb a build for me??

[rich arch]

Yo any no recoil builds?

[modern dome]

how much that skin cost 😭

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

Idk around $200+?

$150+ without maxing it out

[rich arch]

Can someone send me the meta m16 build

[rich arch]

Yeah tbh maxing out a mythic after buying is like another 150etc..

Roughly 280$ from what I remember on my mythic.

[frosty sinew]

Can I get a good QQ9 gunsmith

For snd

[austere igloo]

But that alone isn’t really a redeeming factor for me

[austere igloo]

Recon tac long
No stock
Mono supp
45rnd mag
Granulated

[vale lichen]

Shouko shared a new build on chat and it feel great in snd

No stock, mono for aggresive tdm matches

[rich arch]

Good morning willsmithimg

I mean gunsmithing

[undone sandal]

tac supp
recon tac
light stock
45r mag
gran

[rich arch]

🇼

This, the SKS and the Asval are gonna be my main next season. Oden buff looks pretty interesting

Drh buff too, but I already used it for months. I got bored of it now

[north rune]

Where's next season patch notes

Can you dm me

[vale lichen]

Asval looks like demon

[rich arch]

oden colossus suppressor is sus

[rich arch]

For real 🧯

[little bison]

maybe switch the asval since it has bullet speed

[rich arch]

Attachments 🫵

Path exe builds are amazing

So glad this channel exist

And they post builds from pro players too

[left dawn]

When is the next season coming

[leaden edge]

Can anyone suggest me any HDR load out

If you can ?

Can anyone

[lethal rune]

Muzzle – MIP Light Flash Guard.
Barrel – 26.9″ HDR Pro.
Stock – FTAC Champion.
Ammunition – 7 Round Mags.
Perk – Fast Switch.

[odd island]

Mid

Just use an actual suppressor

Or a laser.

[modern dome]

that's a bit too much DAMNNN

[radiant lily]

Anyone got a LAPA build for undead siege

And a KRM-262

[umbral obsidian]

Use the system recommended

Ones

[ruby wind]

Just put a mag with highest ammo and then go for all ads build

And slight of hand

[brazen tinsel]

Any Oden builds for mp?

[narrow glen]

@brazen tinsel, 2 Server Rank

[digital needle]

Max mobility + Sub sonic

Better than SMG if u hab gud aim

[brazen tinsel]

@digital needle could you send me a screen

[vale lichen]

Got it from someone on #codm-gunsmith-builds

Good build

oden is only for passive gameplay

[brazen tinsel]

@vale lichen tyvm

[digital needle]

Oden smg build is super fun ngl

[vale lichen]

Troll builds lol

[digital needle]

Full auto Sks

[vale lichen]

Bro what are you cooking💀

[crude surge]

anyone hvk build

[digital needle]

Conversion Mag + Max range + Combat stock

Too lazy to explain

[digital needle]

Passive / Snd

The gun lack of mag capacity in respawn mode

[crude surge]

ok

thanks

[simple ledge]

Grau build for ranked?

[ornate jackal]

Check #codm-gunsmith-builds theres a recent one

[glass kelp]

:P

[queen forge]

How can I not play call of duty mobile private server it's normal

[proper geode]

Wrong channel, ask @strange compass

[wooden bronze]

Help me with fennec build no recoil or best build pls

[tawdry vault]

Recoil from my experience is just part of the fennec

[austere igloo]

Fennec & no recoil is impossible

That’s like saying I want bread without yeast in it

[rich arch]

gluten free fennec then

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 13 Server Rank

[rich arch]

are u stoopid?

[austere igloo]

Lol

Did someone hurt you buddy?

[rich arch]

ur fennec has gluten in it

waiter i want a refund

[austere igloo]

[proper geode]

[austere igloo]

Also gluten isn’t yeast lmao

Yeast is an essential ingredient for bread

Just like how recoil is inevitable with fennec

You can’t make a fennec without recoil like how you can’t make bread without yeast

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

I’m just speaking the truth bud

[wooden bronze]

Atleast give me a redeem code that works today....

[visual bloom]

should I run fmj or soh on spr for zombies

[rich arch]

I gotchu

@tawdry vault

Been using it in Ranked

[visual bloom]

is that your actual build

[rich arch]

Yeah

Got me through 5 Ranked MP legendarys already

[visual bloom]

please consider using this build

[narrow glen]

@visual bloom, 10 Server Rank

@visual bloom, 11 Server Rank

[unreal gale]

I think fennec's ironsight is bad enough to justify a red dot if you don't have the mythic

[dusty heart]

Zakhaev executioner got slightly better irons iirc

[unreal gale]

still bad though

[undone sandal]

arguably better than base

id swap barrel for optic tho

[ruby wind]

OPTIC ON FENNEC?

Are you tryna crossmap with fennec wtf

[undone sandal]

why would you have steady stock then

since all thats for is bsa

aggro builds usually don't have steady stock

id only consider using a different attachment if the blueprint has decent irons

cuz barrel isn't a must

[vale lichen]

Garena players build every guns with optic

[unreal gale]

yes. it's super common actually, arguably the meta build for fennecs without skin

[ruby wind]

Right,
THAT BUILD IS WRONG

I wouldn't use that even if i was grinding long shots

[undone sandal]

says who

[ruby wind]

Me

[dusty heart]

Both stocks usable

[undone sandal]

depends on playstyle

[dusty heart]

Steady helps with flinch and light breaks your strafe

[knotty cobalt]

Meh

[undone sandal]

if you really want to be technical

there's technically no correct or wrong build

[ruby wind]

Yeah and yet people get roasted for their builds

[undone sandal]

because there's a standard

[ruby wind]

And that fennec build is below standard imo.

[undone sandal]

you wouldn't want to fuck up range if you're gonna use a gun over range

it all depends on the playstyle you're aiming for

if you're aggressive that build isn't the best

[ruby wind]

Just have a secondary pistol for range like .50gs

Fennec is never recommended for crossmapping

[undone sandal]

like i said it depends on the playstyle

[ruby wind]

And for mid range and close range,that build is no good

Yeah well whatever

[candid quarry]

U must've been way to highhigh when u copied this

Jesus

[umbral obsidian]

i prefer the hip fire laser with the 25% sprint to fire over barrel

but it works too

who has a krig br build

i need please

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

I dont use custom krig for br

[austere igloo]

I honestly find rds on fennec redundant

The ghost ring sights r fine imo

If it had lapa type ironsights then I’d understand

[rich arch]

Good for BR

[tired grove]

Eww

[vast horizon]

this is only for cqc + pushing

even though for me it has like 0 recoil

[visual bloom]

red dot on mythic

it hurts my eyes

[vast horizon]

you haven't seen dlq mythic with 6x B?

[rich arch]

That pains to hear

[austere igloo]

This shotgun may be shit but at least I got a good camo for it

[visual bloom]

no

I don’t have mythic

[rich arch]

Best gun next season?

[rich arch]

echo is great in br

i think the jak is better if you want a hold down and shoot shotty in mp though

[austere igloo]

is it though?

[austere igloo]

nah nah jak is cancer

[rich arch]

ya it slaps

busts through armor like the fbi at your doorstep

[austere igloo]

don't u mean "no skill ppl-friendly"?

[rich arch]

listen

this is cod m

[austere igloo]

jak is literally for no-skill shotgunners

[rich arch]

skill is relative

jak 12 is a meme weapon

[austere igloo]

by no means do I praise pump action shotgunners tho, esp if its krm

krm is on the same league of no skill as jak

[rich arch]

its hilarious thst the aa12 is good in cod m cause i remember it was so bad it was skillful to use it in mw3

[austere igloo]

I respect those that use r9-0, hs2126 & by15

[rich arch]

u had to be point blank to even hope to kill someone

i respect no shotgun users

[austere igloo]

bcoz these actually require skill

[rich arch]

unless they are thumb players

[austere igloo]

fr

Im a thumbs player

[rich arch]

same fam

[austere igloo]

but I respect ppl who use hard-to-use shotguns

[rich arch]

eskettit

i golded shotgums for dam then never touched em again

[austere igloo]

& still be able to win

[rich arch]

the striker is

[austere igloo]

striker

on one hand I respect them for using striker bcoz of its shitty stats

but on the other hand, striker is a full-auto shotgun...so it's also noob-friendly

I'm torn

shld I respect them or not?

[rich arch]

the striker is a great gun for masochists

its the same problem it had in mw3 you spend so much time reloading and typically if you get caught off guard theres not enough rounds left to kill the enemy

so youre basically stuck killing a couple people then full reloading in a corner its weird gameplay

mw3 had all the shotguns be...pretty terrible cause of their reputation in mw2, even the semi auto shotguns usually two hit even point blank

*pump action not semi

[austere igloo]

damn

[vast horizon]

imo, it's good now

jak12 is worse than echo, even though jak12 has rapid fire speed while echo is like 0.5x fire rate of jak12

close range? ok

mid range? echo slaps the face

[digital needle]

2 shots 10 meters, nothing to say more

[autumn salmon]

Just use argus

Or krm

[umbral obsidian]

Hso

[vast horizon]

nah

[digital needle]

Hs0 is broken

[verbal robin]

This is one shot

I use it its great

We can unequipped FF Birdshot
For higher range

[digital needle]

That's not one shot

And Suppressor on Shotgun

Wat duh lol

[soft ferry]

Def not

[little bison]

worst gunsmith ever for such sg..

well not really

but it is kinda bad

[verbal robin]

Yuh huh

[unreal gale]

Why is this channel so dead 💀

Literally like 30 messages since yesterday

[vestal rampart]

Cos CODM dying

lol jk

[vale lichen]

Many active users are banned i think

[tawny isle]

why

[severe valley]

Hey guys

Can I ask for an NA-45 build?

Btw, what do you think about the new shotgun?

[tawny isle]

what sg

argus?

[tawny isle]

na45 gay ahh gun

not my build

[vale lichen]

I don't like the gun but does it need a scope?

[tawny isle]

not really

[vale lichen]

Best abuser gun in crash

Spawn detonator

[severe valley]

Yeah

[severe valley]

Thanks mate

[severe valley]

Me neither, just wanna get the gold camo on it and don't want f around with the build

[vale lichen]

Go for diamond champ

[rich arch]

ever since its massive nerf stacking recoil reduction seems the best

otherwise youre gonna miss the follow up unless ur super close range

[severe valley]

Haha, I don't have that much time

I'm fine with the diamonds only on my favourite weapons

[rich arch]

if ur doing gold challenge you can change it up a bit cause longshots require headshots

so fast ads in that case

[severe valley]

Thanks @rich arch

Do I think correctly that you can headshot an enemy with the first shot?

[rich arch]

yep @severe valley

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 14 Server Rank

[rich arch]

How do you use it?

[tawny isle]

the first shot plants an explosive and makes an annoying ahh beepinng sound then the second bullet makes it explode

its only two bullets

[rich arch]

Doesn't it ruin your aim though?

[tawny isle]

if yu played when it was the meta you would know lmfao

exactly

[rich arch]

I remember

[tawny isle]

yeah

its gay asf

[rich arch]

Even after the nerf I used it with Demo Expert Perk

But since you have the legendary skin you have to use it now

[rich arch]

Yo any HVK builds

Integral suppressor, no stock, tactical laser, LC ammo, granulated

eh screw granulated on hvk

its fast fire rate+close range means you dont really need it

people always push for lowering ads spread as much as possible even if the weapons meant for close range which kind of doesnt make sense

@rich arch ignore ghost being a meta boopty snoop if you equip combat stock and light barrel then go into training range youll notice you cant even tell if its ads spreading or not on the dummy

Ty

also anyone notice hvks description says "tight hip fire" yet it has the exact same hipfire as the other ars

activision needs to get on that

[ruby iris]

Oh that build has hella spread

Source: i used it before

[rich arch]

spread isnt an issue if you're using it at the range its supposed to be used

or you can force it to do something another gun does better ig but id rather play to its strengths

[rich arch]

Don't listen to him

@ruby iris go in training range with those two and equip a laser

note where you aim and where the shots go

@rich arch
You can see yourself even path using granulated

there isnt any noticeable ads spread ghost is just following the meta dictated by youtubers

instead of doing what feels right for him

You wanna use the best build I guess

If you want close range use smg

[ruby iris]

This is still in hvk's intended range fyi

Running mip light + combat would make your gun have like half the effective range

Tac supp
Marksman
Strike stock
Lc
Gran

[rich arch]

xboxahoy would be ashamed of you guys

making the same builds for every weapon

minimize ads spread and make them all used for the same thing

the hvk is meant to dominate in close range firefights not be used like any other ar

Who even is he

the best weapon guide maker for cod thats ever existed

Nah, that is leakers on duty

They test and study all the stats every month

[ruby iris]

Yter
Very nice voice

[rich arch]

Lemme search

[ruby iris]

He stopped doing cod like a decade ago

[rich arch]

Oh.. well if he stopped then why did he mention him? He doesn't play anymore

[ruby iris]

Idk

[rich arch]

[viscid belfry]

sync fov to aim worth?

[ruby iris]

Back in his days (bo2 stuff) ars cant even hit the broad side of the barn

[ruby iris]

Prolly not, i just like the way it feels

[viscid belfry]

ah ok

since im medium/long range guy its bad right?

[ruby iris]

Ye

[viscid belfry]

ok

whats others new things they added?

on settings

[rich arch]

My friend... Lol.. what does this guy have to do with CODM lmao. You mentioned a guy who plays console cod. This is CODM

[viscid belfry]

lol

[ruby iris]

Not even that

[rich arch]

LMFAO

[ruby iris]

Classic console cod

[rich arch]

And he wants to be taken seriously

cod contracted him to make guides

[rich arch]

Lol....

then it burnt him out from cod

[ruby iris]

Almost every modern cod is beam-y as shit

[rich arch]

activision ruined another good thing

Lmao he has nothing to do with codm

bro codm meta is dictated by 3 paid off youtubers

literally everyone builds the guns the exact same way in comp

theres zero variety

Alright. I'm gonna watch Mr Beast to see what build I'm gonna use for my Outlaw

[ruby iris]

Just watch any mw19/bocw/vg/mw22 gameplay

Ppl be beaming 60m+ with smgs

[rich arch]

yeah

i remember when suppressors made snipers only one shot to the head

[ruby iris]

Blame game balancing

[rich arch]

theres not enough downsides for things and now you can just build weapons to be things they arent

i miss old cod haha

Well here's something I agree with

[ruby iris]

Ppl would obviously stack spread and range on ars

Since smg can have the same spread as an ar

But faster

A high mobility ar might as well be a slow mobility smg

[rich arch]

Yeahh

And if I'm not using the tactical laser, I definitely need the granulated tape to compensate

If I'd try to use it like he says, I feel like I would get outgunned by so many weapons

Qq9, sx9, fennec, CBR, cx9

Pdw

I remember when attachments had downsides that forced someome to think hard about things like...example the light suppressor

thats just how all suppressors were in cod before mw 2019

you sacrifice range for staying off the radar

now its like well you can just pop a tac suppressor or even a suppressor that -improves- range

it seems like activision did it so people would use all the weapons but it backfired

But now you can have attachlents that just completely counteract any downsides to other ones

making meta builders like ferg or bonny absolutely brain dead

"Skill based match making"

more like meta abusers who all do the same thing and use the same guns

okay rant over

im a meme lord again

[tawdry vault]

Skill based matchmaking my ass

I get molly whopped because I did good in one round beforr

[fervent scarab]

Question, I got ak 47 pump head for the first draw is that rare or?

[tawdry vault]

Image for context?

[narrow glen]

@tawdry vault, 23 Server Rank

[fervent scarab]

First pull was the ak 47

After that I got the br stuff with the tomahawk

[tawdry vault]

Oh; i would assume its rare

[fervent scarab]

That never happened to me before, getting legendary skin at my first pull 🤣🤣

[tawdry vault]

I wouldn't know, cause I haven't done a single pull (I got nun)

[unreal gale]

do you guys buy skins that are cool?

or skins that you know you'll actually use?

[old reef]

Yes

[unreal gale]

you see, yes in the context is pretty ambiguous

[old reef]

Still waiting for that to happen to me ;-;

[old reef]

But its an answer

[unreal gale]

an answer that provides no new information at all though

[old reef]

But an answer none the less

[unreal gale]

functionally equivalent to no answer :D

man this server is so dead these days

[old reef]

Lol

But yeah

[unreal gale]

scroll up 10 messages and it's like 4 hours ago

[old reef]

Personally opinion i do both

[unreal gale]

I've spent too much on random skins

[old reef]

Update; im never lucky D:

[unreal gale]

only to literally never use them

[old reef]

Lol

[unreal gale]

so I'm just gonna buy target skins from now haha

[silk quest]

What guns should i run for ranked

[unreal gale]

stuff like lk drop shock, hvk cartridge carbine, krig 6 and kilo mythic etc.

[silk quest]

Out of smgs ars and snipers

[unreal gale]

just use lk24

literally the only gun you ever need

[silk quest]

K

Almost legendary my tms sellin ngl

[unreal gale]

pushing to legendary should be basically eyes closed at this point

so just grind the losses haha

teammates suck, but they kinda do for everyone anything above mean

so yeah, either carry harder or just grind losses

if you mvp every game, you get a huge net positive if you have a 50% wr below legendary

honestly you have a huge net positive if you're anything below like 20k

[silk quest]

Hmm

[unreal gale]

20k+ the wins start to become miserable

top frag win gives you like +25

mvp loss is around -30

so yeah, kinda sucks

[silk quest]

O ok

How hood is hack

[unreal gale]

?

wait are you asking about mp or br?

[silk quest]

Hvk

this auto correct is so ass

[unreal gale]

lol

[silk quest]

I cant say anything

[unreal gale]

hvk is really good

equal top tier

but it's not as easy to use as LK

so just use LK

[silk quest]

Ik but lk look butt

[unreal gale]

do you have the serpent skin for it?

this one

[silk quest]

I aint got any skins ngl

[silk quest]

I don’t even got a leg

[silk quest]

Thats sexy

[unreal gale]

it's a bp epic

[silk quest]

Free?

[unreal gale]

and it's personally my favourite skin

[unreal gale]

well bp epic

costs net 0cp

the other good one is drop shock

but obviously it's a legendary

though, in my opinion, the serpent bp skin is better than the leggy

and considering LK is the best gun rn, it's quite an L for codm that a bp skin is the best skin in the game

[silk quest]

thats wild

Well my lk low lvl

My havnt like 40

[unreal gale]

level it up

[unreal gale]

try this build

if you don't mind lasers, swap the stock for laser

or gran tape for laser

[silk quest]

Ight

First gun I’ve seen without monolithic on

Idk how ima lvl it up ngl

[unreal gale]

play hardpoint shipment

and just kill people lol

oh and if you don't have a good skin for LK, use red dot

instead of the stock

@silk quest

[silk quest]

Red dot got it

[austere igloo]

Got this

[tawdry vault]

Nice

[olive marten]

Any opinions on this build?

Any opinions on this build?

[narrow glen]

@olive marten, 21 Server Rank

[keen gazelle]

stippled and strike are a no go for me

i imagine youre playing crazy close range even with the m4 but still stippled isnt that good of an attachment

for how much ads speed it gives you, it decreases the bullet spread by ALOT

@olive marten with the ak you can get away with using stippled since the bsa is good but these are the builds id suggest

im using the flashgaurd cause seeing the mip laser on the m4, im guessing you hipfire

if you dont hipfire and just chose mip laser to get this stat up

then its sorta wrong, the stats bar can be misleading but again i suggest my builds for close range

damn i talk too much anyways lmk if you have any questions about my build

[olive marten]

@keen gazelle so what is your recommended builds for the ak and m4 for multiplayer? I never really ised these guns

[keen gazelle]

you want my personal builds or any overall good build thats used by the community

or one for you fast pased playstyle

[rich arch]

just posted a locus build in #codm-gunsmith-builds lemme know if it's good or not.

remember guys first 3 shots have zero bsa no matter what

[north rune]

Any builds for Lcar9

[rich arch]

so you can still yknow...burst fire at long range like you used to supposed to do anyways

[keen gazelle]

good build 👍🏽

[rich arch]

ty

[autumn salmon]

For ak47:
Tac supp
Ranger barrel
No stock
Gran grip tape/tac laser
Large extended mag

For m4: (passive)
Tac supp
Ranger barrel
Light stock
Gran grip tape
50 round mag

(Aggressive)
Tac supp
Short light barrel
No stock
Gran grip tape/tac laser
50 round mag

Now, I recommend using ranger barrel for ak since it gives you +40% range boost which is a lot but if you wanted a faster build then you can use short light barrel

[autumn salmon]

1st is the most used, 2nd is the fastest and 3rd is if you're looking for a secondary to kill/farm camos

Still, I'd recommend the second one, you can swap mag with agency supp if you want it

[odd island]

Why use ak when there's ul

It gets a 3 shot potential at 40 meters just by using extended barrel

[autumn salmon]

They asked for a build so I provided them with it, not that I use ak much

And yes, ul is far superior but I like fast paced guns

[odd island]

Ul best lmg

[autumn salmon]

True but I'd still use chopper over it anyday

Chopper is love

[keen gazelle]

chopper

[north rune]

Thanks

[autumn salmon]

No probs!

[austere igloo]

The aether camo on the grau blueprint looks oddly fitting

[vestal rampart]

Yh gold and purple is a nice combo

[rich arch]

Anyone know when the m13 Morningstar is coming back??

[digital needle]

Carbon fiber + default gun

[austere igloo]

I didn’t get that

[digital needle]

Default gun with assault pattern camo makes the gun looks darker and i like it

[silver crown]

That's actually fair enough

Though I'm not a fan of the default blueprints

I have an obsession with slightly changed geometry on existing guns

Carbon fiber looks really good with this seasons BP skins as well though

[ornate jackal]

M4LMG on top

Holger on bottom

Smokin that nerf pack

The goat lmg solos

I think hades would be top 3 lmgs if it had more range tbh and a slight ads spread increase

[north rune]

@autumn salmon used your build

Iz great

[uneven onyx]

argus

[narrow glen]

@uneven onyx, 4 Server Rank

[uneven onyx]

hipfire and afs

ads

[kind fox]

[uneven onyx]

alt account fr

[kind fox]

[uneven onyx]

Someone hipfire and ads pls

argus

[kind fox]

If you want a amazing argus combo then hear you go 7294620259219937488

[dreamy thunder]

Passive Aggressive cx9 pls

Not that Passive

But more in to agro

[rich arch]

sit in a corner and spam voicelines while the team screams at you

[umbral obsidian]

Do not use hip fire for shuts

Argus

[uneven onyx]

okk

[gritty zinc]

Anyone got a good br zrg build?

[kind fox]

Can someone send a loadout for the M13?

[rich arch]

Find it in gunsmithing builds

[kind fox]

@rich arch those suck

[rich arch]

Nah I got my m13 to master with those

Gimme 5 min I will send a good one

[kind fox]

@rich arch ok

[autumn salmon]

Owc light supp
Light short barrel
Combat stock
Extended mag/vehicle mag/armor piercer
Stippled grip tape

[autumn salmon]

Heavy barrel
Tac laser/fmj
No stock
Double stack mag
Gran grip tape

[kind fox]

@autumn salmon I will try that

[autumn salmon]

Tac laser can be switched in for a perk or red dot sight

[narrow glen]

@autumn salmon, 53 Server Rank

[autumn salmon]

Or you can use the other build
Mono supp
Cx 38e
Cx fr
Tac laser/Gran grip tapd
50 round drum

Use the one that suits you better