codm-gunsmith-help

[paper spade]

If you’re doing br you’re gonna want to use this

It’s the best build for br^

No because it’s garbage in br

It is

I literally create ttk charts which are pinned in stats

I have the mythic

[tawny walrus]

But I need build for MP.

For BR I already have one.

[paper spade]

You got the mythic?

[wary tulip]

Any improvements?

[paper spade]

the s36 is outclassed by the hades holger rpd and the chopper in mp but you will want to use tac supp combat stock laser gran and mag on it

what about it?

[minor dragon]

Use 25 round OTM

[paper spade]

check my ttk chart if you want the holger gunsmith

it has the best gunsmiths for every mp gun as communally agreed by this discord and the cygnoux discord

[wary tulip]

My aim is bs

[paper spade]

im not going to deal with you anymore blood, the kilo is really bad in br because its outclassed by lk m13 and almost every other ar entirely

in every stat

[tawny walrus]

25 magazine for better mobility.

[paper spade]

m4 is better in br, yeah

it has the highest aim assist in the game besides deagle actually, which is notable because you dont even have to aim down to like 15m if theyre strafe running

no other guns do that except for the hvk a little bit but that only works if theyre ads strafing because its aim assist is alot worse

yujji and i were testing aim assist

and its better than kilo at range in br stat wise

with better beaming and damage

if you dont miss or if you use wildfire yeah

its range stats are better

kilo is outclassed by everything in br, this is well known

before the recoil nerf

and the other nerfs

thomab will explain

im done with u

[stray rapids]

Before they readjusted most of the br damages

Kilo had a time where it was one of the best in br

Don't think it lasted long though

[ruby iris]

@stray rapids

[stray rapids]

@ruby iris

[ruby iris]

Do origami

[stray rapids]

What the

Na

[ruby iris]

It's fun

[stray rapids]

Lazy

[paper spade]

origami takes too long

[stray rapids]

Better things to do

[paper spade]

i know someone who spent a month on a dragon

[stray rapids]

I suck at folding😭

[paper spade]

hours every day

[stray rapids]

Ocd mf

[ruby iris]

Average origamist

[paper spade]

the kilo is still one of the best in mp

[minor dragon]

no

[paper spade]

its just really bad in br

[minor dragon]

MP yes BR no

yes

[storm lance]

Do you like hate it or something or no time available

[stray rapids]

I just folded this when u suggested origami

Guess I'm good at it

[minor dragon]

what do you mean

[paper spade]

hand reveal

[ruby iris]

Now fold a ryujin 3.5

[storm lance]

Why do you not want to do origami it's a cool art and takes skill

[ruby iris]

[storm lance]

And time but i don't really have the time that's it

[stray rapids]

Gim 1 min

[paper spade]

just like rock climb instead

[minor dragon]

i prefer painting. Origami is not my thing

[stray rapids]

Done

[storm lance]

They never listen to community suggestions so idk what to say

[ruby iris]

Real

[stray rapids]

Natural talent

[storm lance]

There's no way you made this in under 5 hours no matter how fast

[ruby iris]

Spoken like a true american

[paper spade]

do people think codm makes u automatically into guns

[ruby iris]

It's like 100ish hour work

[stray rapids]

I'm a speedrunner

Took me about a minute

[storm lance]

You bet even more

[ruby iris]

[stray rapids]

Pretty challenging ngl

[ruby iris]

Very based

[stray rapids]

Man

Origami so boring

I need harder ones fr

[storm lance]

I like shooting

[ruby iris]

Moa moa v2

[paper spade]

what caliber?

[stray rapids]

Gim a minute

[storm lance]

Personally i was always a person who uses weapons more than pencils and papers

[storm lance]

I like 20mm

[stray rapids]

Done

[ruby iris]

[stray rapids]

I folded and compressed the paper multiple times until it was ultra dense

A black colour

[storm lance]

I personally want to own a denel but it's from Africa so i have to go all the way there to get one and denel are pretty solid so yip

[paper spade]

do you still have a shoulder

[stray rapids]

Used potatochip bottle to form the circle

[ruby iris]

L

[storm lance]

Last time I checked yea i do have two of them

[ruby iris]

Fake origamist

[paper spade]

damn

[ruby iris]

This is moa moa v2

[stray rapids]

Mam ion know what u wan

[ruby iris]

Smh imagine not knowing

[tough leaf]

What's the best gunsmith for KRM?

[minor dragon]

not using it

[tough leaf]

Ok

[stray rapids]

I'm not really a origami fanatic myself, just challenge myself when i feel bored to pass the minutes

Such as ryujin 3.5

[minor dragon]

use HSO instead

[ruby iris]

@stray rapids

[tough leaf]

Ok, do you have a HSO gunsmith?

[stray rapids]

Give a minute

[minor dragon]

no

[stray rapids]

Done

[tough leaf]

Ok

[storm lance]

Elb / mauradur sup or whatever/ no stock /5mw /Gran grip

[minor dragon]

[narrow glen]

@tough leaf, 2

[paper spade]

have u ever successfully shot at over a mile?

[stray rapids]

@ruby iris

[ruby iris]

Real

[storm lance]

Idk nor care but that's my build

[ruby iris]

Can i see it from another angle?

[stray rapids]

It's somewhat difficult ig

[tough leaf]

What's elb

[storm lance]

Bro plz stop

[stray rapids]

No

Busy smh

[storm lance]

Extended light barrel

[ruby iris]

[tough leaf]

Ok, some people tell me to use gran grip, other tell me to use speed up kill but idk which build is better

[storm lance]

Gran is good for BSA along with 5mw and speed up kill is movement speed

[stray rapids]

Man, this origami took me 10 minutes to do

Excluding the colouring

And lighting

[paper spade]

Can u fold me next thomab

[storm lance]

And I don't even know if speed up kill does anything, cause last time they said it does nothing

[tough leaf]

Is HSO better than KRM? Idk since HSO pellets deal more damage but have less range while KRM has slightly lower dmg but more range

[narrow glen]

@vivid finch, 10

[paper spade]

Hs0 in br

Krm for mp

[tough leaf]

So should I use gran grip or switch ti for speed up kill

[minor dragon]

@ruby sail

[storm lance]

Gran is better

[tough leaf]

Really? I thought krm good for br too

[paper spade]

Hs0 is one shot kill

[tough leaf]

Ok

[minor dragon]

You have a new competitor

[tough leaf]

Wow ok

[storm lance]

Damn man that would take me 3 minutes

[stray rapids]

Wow you're pretty good at it too

[tough leaf]

I'm trash at using shotguns in br tho

[stray rapids]

🤝

[stray rapids]

Stay that way tbh

[storm lance]

[stray rapids]

Could do with less of these shotgun mfs

[tough leaf]

Ok, I usually use an assault rifle and a sniper in br anyways

[stray rapids]

Me too, but my sniper is also an assault

[tough leaf]

What, how

[minor dragon]

I want more. Shotgun in MP is

[paper spade]

Xpr

750ms ttk

[tough leaf]

Oh that gun

I try using, it is very good

[minor dragon]

M21 takes like 100 ms more to kill

[stray rapids]

Wym bruh

[tough leaf]

I like using KRM but I have no good skins 😭

[stray rapids]

I use a fast ar like krig for example, to handle my short and mid range, and a more stable gun like hvk for long range

[minor dragon]

You dont need them. Just use uncommon skins like i do

[tough leaf]

I either using diamond or red lightning or that lava skins for tournament

[stray rapids]

Not a reccomended way for br

[paper spade]

Ohhh

He doesn’t use a sniper at all he uses an assault

[minor dragon]

Thats...strange

[paper spade]

Yea I was on hvk for a while in br

[stray rapids]

Is indeed, I'm gonna cater more cqb with my pk

[paper spade]

It’s really nice for long range and has the second best aim assist

[tough leaf]

Oh ok, I usually use like an ak-47 or m4 for mid to long range and dlq or xpr for longer range

[paper spade]

Feels good

[stray rapids]

Did u test this?

[paper spade]

Yea

[minor dragon]

I use this combination: maddox as sniper support and XPR as main

[stray rapids]

Show clips

[tough leaf]

Idek if I got any but the new epic KRM looks bullshit

[paper spade]

I tested it was deagle then a large gap then m4 then a large gap then hvk then a small gap then lk

[stray rapids]

Actually we can ask yujji

[paper spade]

Yujji has some

[stray rapids]

This is br or mp

[minor dragon]

True

[paper spade]

Br

[tough leaf]

I mean not custom arsenal

[stray rapids]

Deagle in br?

[paper spade]

In mp I only found deagle was different

Deagle boosted in br too more than other base guns

[storm lance]

So guys what's your thoughts about the butterfly knife they added like 3 seasons ago

[paper spade]

No

[stray rapids]

Bad without

Heck, probably somewhat mid even with lc in br

[tough leaf]

I remember I was playing br then this guy just came flying and one shot me with a hso out of nowhere

[stray rapids]

It just rewards very good aim

[paper spade]

And bad aim bc second best aim assist for an auto

[stray rapids]

Hm

Hvk very punishing hitboxes irc

[paper spade]

I know it’s below m4 and better than the others

[stray rapids]

U need heads irc

[tough leaf]

I honestly hate it very much

[paper spade]

In terms of aim assist

[storm lance]

Hvk is good

[paper spade]

Nah it’s okay with just upper body

M13 speed or faster

Which is good

I can post my ttk chart rn

[storm lance]

It looks bulky and the inspection is .....let's not talk about that and it breaks my heart that fir ppl to by that leggy they made it look so bad

[paper spade]

wait thats not hvk

[storm lance]

I bet no one can do a ladder while using that bali

[paper spade]

im too lazy to regenerate the graph

[tough leaf]

Might aswell just make it another base melee skin cuz it's the exact same weapon and the inspection is ass

[paper spade]

the hvk is like below the LK

uh there thats fine

[storm lance]

Do you flip or just watch

[tough leaf]

Wdym

[stray rapids]

But leg very punishing

[paper spade]

ill post ttk charts with every br gun in cyg discord in a few days

yea the legs are eef

i have a chart showing its multipliers

[storm lance]

Cause I've been into the balisong aka butterfly community for like 5 years and that inspection and the Bali they made in general is just broken

[paper spade]

somewhere

[stray rapids]

How many upper body u need to beat 1088ms ttk? Hvk lc

[paper spade]

ugh

[storm lance]

Do you flip butterfly knives

[paper spade]

youre making me open my thing

[tough leaf]

I mean I made one out of popsicle sticks I saw on a YouTube tutorial and flipped it in my room for about an hour 💀

[paper spade]

fine

@stray rapids if u can wait 5 minutes ill post a chart with hvk

[stray rapids]

No need

[tough leaf]

Well tried to flip it

[paper spade]

hvk LC Marksman 13.33
9-11 to 29.9 12-14 after. 90.7ms fire rate

[stray rapids]

I know the ttks

[paper spade]

those are the ttks for br

[stray rapids]

I just need the potential

[storm lance]

Did you keep going or quit

[paper spade]

too lazy to post the rest of the values

[tough leaf]

Ig quit, I just walk in my room every once in a while and flip it

[paper spade]

733-917ms up to 29.9m @stray rapids

[storm lance]

What combo do you prefer or do you just go freestyle

[paper spade]

add a frame every 13.33m round the first frame to 0 round the rest up to the next frame

[stray rapids]

Last irc without heads for hvk u can't hit a single leg shot to go sub 1s without bv

[paper spade]

917ms on the legs

idk chief

[stray rapids]

Bruh

Talking about infinite

No one uses that truck hvk for sub 29m

[paper spade]

then its 1216ms on the legs

[stray rapids]

That's considering all legs irc

[paper spade]

added two frames for bv

[stray rapids]

How many stomach shots for 1088ms?

Excluding bv

[paper spade]

uh

do u want to know chest or stomach/ arms

[stray rapids]

Just stomach multi

[paper spade]

at least six stomach shots for exactly 1100 ms

before rounding its 1088.4

[vernal nimbus]

Are you good at the game?

[paper spade]

which is what you want

[minor dragon]

AMAX is better

[paper spade]

no

[stray rapids]

Hm

I guess that's consistent

Not very impressed tbh

Expected less

As val isn't meta in br

[storm lance]

Are you guys still chatting about hvk

[paper spade]

its headshots are kinda op though

[stray rapids]

Rewards good aim

[storm lance]

Even in mp as val isn't that good

[vernal nimbus]

You dont study ways to manipulate the game mechanics and have things in your favor?

[paper spade]

i mean, i do

i still am bad at the game though

[storm lance]

Fmj turns your weapon from auto to semi and the high fire rate doesn't mean it's good

[vernal nimbus]

What are they

[storm lance]

I think as val lacks range right

[stray rapids]

Recoil and bv

[storm lance]

Ok but what about the STK along with BSA

[stray rapids]

Range is very good for a gun as fast as val

800rpm too

[paper spade]

nothing useful realistically, just analyzing the stats and knowing exactly when the guns fire rate will either skip a frame or be firing one frame faster

[stray rapids]

And yes val has good ttks in br

[storm lance]

Idk why but the mid range barrel didn't help me at satellite

[stray rapids]

But recoil and uses heavy ammo

[wary tulip]

recoil and range

[paper spade]

because guns for example guns fire with an interval of 5 frames 5 frames 5 5 6 5 5 5 5 6 5 5 5 5 6

[stray rapids]

Recoil shid

[paper spade]

and sometimes memorizing that pattern can help when its longer

[stray rapids]

🙄

[storm lance]

I did center and pull down along with aim assist from a controller so ye i shot him like 5 times

And even that happened with my krm on shipment 3 shotgun shells and he didn't die

[stray rapids]

How far were u shooting

[storm lance]

Only hitmarkers

[storm lance]

You can say 20m

[stray rapids]

Hm

Doubt

Val 5 shots around 30m supposedly

[paper spade]

i just use s36 and dlq now in br lol

dlq best rewarding of aim

[storm lance]

He was far and my fov is like 90

[stray rapids]

Rytec

[storm lance]

It's hitbox is good

[hasty sun]

Ppl say xpr better than dlq

[paper spade]

ok, true , but concussion mag

and mythic

[ruby iris]

It is

[paper spade]

i mean its the same all the way through

3-4 shots

[stray rapids]

@ruby iris what u think the best 1 shot sr in br

[paper spade]

i meant

[storm lance]

But is arctic possibly a good sniper u tried it and it's so bulky

[ruby iris]

Zrg?

[hasty sun]

I personally don't think it is

[ruby iris]

Why ping me anyways

@uneven anchor

[paper spade]

2-3 shots to 134.8, 3-4 after 1300 interval

Rytec explosive 20m
2-3 to 60, 2-4 after 800ms interval

xpr light supp, RTC Long, 13.33m
4 shots. 250ms interval

dlq light supp Mip Light 14m
2-4 shots. 1200ms interval```

[stray rapids]

I want to emphasise that for a 800rpm val has very good range

[paper spade]

its 2-4 shots srry

[stray rapids]

Range definitely not a weakness on val

Bv and recoil

[stray rapids]

Does it need av mag

[paper spade]

rytec is better than dlq but i like dlq bc concussion mag

[storm lance]

It actually is the range and hitbox is very good along with range

[paper spade]

xpr is best though imo

but rytec if u wanna hit headshots

[stray rapids]

Don't use bar stats

[ruby iris]

I'd use av mah

[stray rapids]

Use stat comparison page

[lean frost]

Bar stats
This the one time I'll defend Val

[paper spade]

and dlq if u have mythic and want to b concussion mag stupid

dont use thermal mag

explosive is good because of its damage multipliers in br

[storm lance]

Thermal mag

[hasty sun]

I did 1v1s with concussion mags and they sucked

[narrow glen]

@hasty sun, 4

[paper spade]

hhh

[lean frost]

It's got great range for its rpm and fairly good hitboxes
as toemouse said
Recoil and BV is the issue

[storm lance]

In mp they're bad only in br they're good

[hasty sun]

I haven't tried in br cuz I suck at br

[lean frost]

Maddox is slowly starting to become my favorite SMG ar hybrid

[storm lance]

I don't like br

[lean frost]

it's dreams and hopes will be shredded the second next season arrives but for now
I approve

[stray rapids]

🤝

[storm lance]

Is reinforced better than mono barrel or is mono better along with the ability of suppression

[lean frost]

use stat comp page for everything

[lean frost]

I use mono supp barrel becuz I'm a snd pleb
but I think other than the suppression, reinforced heavy might have better stats
but I think it also hurts strafe

[ruby iris]

You kinda need hollow with reinforced tbh

[lean frost]

Use quick response
Use it like a SMG
it's great in that role

[paper spade]

i think mono is the smart choice

if your accuracy is under 35%

[storm lance]

Ig does it effect the movement speed

[stray rapids]

Use stat comparison page and compare with other 800rpm guns

[paper spade]

@lean frost get ur accuracy to 50% so u can use echo

[lean frost]

the one time im defending Val

[stray rapids]

No mag is blasphemy

How do u survive 25 round 800rpm

[storm lance]

What's the ads speed of Maddox pro build

[lean frost]

Even the game doesn't like it
"Connecting to server"

[stray rapids]

Ah yes, reload mid fight

[lean frost]

I don't like echo
Honestly I'd rather use just normal burst guns

[paper spade]

renetti ftw

[late jetty]

I think 1 to 3 meters difference

[paper spade]

renetti > maddox echo ?

real

[lean frost]

secondaries don't count
but kinda true
Renneti can be bussin

[storm lance]

I think range wouldn't be a problem since it's used for close to mid as a smg

[late jetty]

Maddox echo:

[storm lance]

Better ads speed but you already murdered it with that ranger

[lean frost]

This the only image I have

[paper spade]

oh oh

[late jetty]

Yeah but suppression is essential for snd, reinforced can do for spawns

[paper spade]

i have one just for this

[storm lance]

Was this before or after ghost nerf

[storm lance]

Ig

[lean frost]

That uses hollow grip tho
I use sturdy on my standard build
So probably in the mid 240-250s

[ruby iris]

Tap the 🔀 when?

[lean frost]

Arguably false

[lean frost]

That was yesterday
And iirc shadow Nerf only affected echo fire

[ruby iris]

Op fg best grip

[hasty sun]

Some one have a good m16 buold

[stray rapids]

Change smth to mag smh

[paper spade]

maddox mono is basically pk or cbr lol

[lean frost]

Ranger nukes mobility

[late jetty]

My snd build

[lean frost]

Operator FG doesn't do anything to BSA

man looking at rubberized or something

[ruby iris]

As long as it's not strike fg

[stray rapids]

Bsa isn't important on val in br since its already good and u only use it to 30m max

[lean frost]

it's like hitting a gun
With a anti tank guided missle
It's not gonna survive

[lean frost]

yes
That one is just
Dies

[paper spade]

do u die to laser alot

[stray rapids]

Attaching a ak47 stock to m1911

[storm lance]

That's pretty solid and the damage range is pretty good like 28 damage up to 10m

[lean frost]

Striker FG
Strike FG

[late jetty]

What's wrong with my laser, just use laser hiding method in snd bro

[lean frost]

I'm sure someone has done it

[ruby iris]

he doesnt know about machine pistols

[paper spade]

so o much effort

when can just go krig

[late jetty]

Im using krig

[paper spade]

or em2

[stray rapids]

Unless u can consistently do near 50% accuracy on val u use mag B

[late jetty]

Just don't mind my laser on maddox pls

[paper spade]

lol better than no laser on maddox

[ruby iris]

Mf's val is slower than main ar m13

[lean frost]

Maddox is actually quite a bit better than I thought tbh
4 tap range is roughly the same
better potential strafe
Huge mag
Much easier recoil
only issue is BSA but it is a SMG AR hybrid afterall

[stray rapids]

That's a slow ass build

[ruby iris]

[late jetty]

[lean frost]

how did u get 8.3 BSA
On a goddam Val

[lean frost]

Dumbledore said calmly.

[ruby iris]

2.65m val

[lean frost]

Val's standard build
Has a good 21 roughly

[paper spade]

m13 still kills faster in br bc fire rate and bullet speed @vivid finch

[lean frost]

It's slightly slower than a standard Type build

[ruby iris]

[lean frost]

Which is like
2.79 m/s

[paper spade]

even if val hits the extra damage multiplier in the chest

[late jetty]

Ok

[ruby iris]

Normal val is like 4m/s, yours is 2.65m/s

[lean frost]

I swear every Smg AR hybrid gon be invalidated next update anyway
except M13 due to low PV

[storm lance]

Ig, but isn't 60 for a mag cap so much like couldn't they lower it to 50 ~ 40 rnd .

[lean frost]

And ig Val
Since it plays the SMG role so well

[lean frost]

M13 has 60
Type has 46
Pk has 40
Val has ...I think 40

[ruby iris]

[lean frost]

That BSA
Is stupid good

[ruby iris]

Wtf are those builds?

[paper spade]

also use heavy barrel and 40 round mag on the m13

[storm lance]

Yes 40 for val

[paper spade]

your builds are so bad lol

yes @ruby iris fix them

[lean frost]

It's better than most standard main ARs
How
Do u
Come up
With that

[paper spade]

do it

[ruby iris]

@uneven anchor

[late jetty]

We're here to discuss builds, not to criticize idiot

[storm lance]

But like ext mag A is 60 and that doesn't effect mobility that much so ye

[lean frost]

The standard Lk-24 has like 14
I'm morbius from faith:the unholy Trinity

[paper spade]

we can do a tiny bit of both

[storm lance]

Some builds are cancer tho

[late jetty]

Yeah

[paper spade]

as you demonstrated

[lean frost]

AGR has 60
40 if u want 9mm mag
so maddox's mag cap is justified imo

[storm lance]

And using ranger fg on everything is like a nightmare

[lean frost]

he used tac fg A instead of strike FG
I'm surprised

[ruby iris]

[storm lance]

That's a lot of bullets , and did you notice ak117 being good

[lean frost]

Tac FG A is decent if gran isn't a option
otherwise just use gran

[ruby iris]

Mf prolly thinks strike fg is good

[late jetty]

I made a gunsmith of m13 based on its passive class version but changed gran to SoH as i prefer godspeed reload time lol (snd only)

[storm lance]

Like the best weapon so far in my whole time playing was ak117

[lean frost]

I approve of Ak117
But shits slow

[ruby iris]

That noone uses

[lean frost]

That's not a SMG AR hybrid

[storm lance]

It's pretty solid but the laser might be a problem in SnD

[lean frost]

I was talking about SMG AR hybrids

[ruby iris]

Not a flex ar

[late jetty]

I don't pre aim on open areas

[lean frost]

Way more guns with 60 or higher mag cap

[storm lance]

Wait wdym slow the fire rate is insane

[storm lance]

Oki

[lean frost]

It's got like 3.3 m/s strafe

[ruby iris]

Plus the 100r mag is redundant, just use holger instead

[paper spade]

does the ak117 recoil get chosen randomly or does it cycle recoil patterns predictably?

[ruby iris]

Standard for main ar

[storm lance]

[late jetty]

I killed a lot of snipers with that bad boy

[lean frost]

true

[storm lance]

Wait snipers that are sweating or someone camping

[ruby iris]

Midrange barrel just isnt good

[late jetty]

Both

[lean frost]

Now this
Is a good question
I have no clue

[ruby iris]

[paper spade]

like if there are 5 recoil patterns for the ak117 and one that i like, if i kill an enemy with the one i like then aim and shoot a bullet once four times can i get my good recoil pattern primed?

[ruby iris]

It was never good

[storm lance]

Good i never killed anyone in SnD unless they rush

[late jetty]

For sweats, hipfire. For campers/hardscopers, strafe

[storm lance]

I'm pretty bad without a team and this game is a no go for me when it's about SnD

[lean frost]

I both hope and don't hope that the buff for AGR is big enough to make its recoil good

[late jetty]

Let me show you how i killed a stupid sniper using krig + tf barrel

[storm lance]

I like to drop shot campers and sweats i just play the way they like

[lean frost]

He ded

[paper spade]

ire i suck at the game itself how would u recommend i improve my playstyle or learn tips for just not being bad lol

[ruby iris]

20% bv

[storm lance]

I here that tf barrel isn't that good but idk about krig6 never liked it in codm but it was ...good in wz

[ruby iris]

[paper spade]

ive done all i can with stats and learning about different guns

[late jetty]

@storm lance

[cunning rapids]

MK2 with 3x scope build

[lean frost]

If it's big enough
It'll become a amazing gun
But if it becomes a amazing gun
They might Nerf the shit out of it

u do not

[paper spade]

out of curiousity whats the hit flinch on that abomination

[lean frost]

U use this
SoH/Gran

[rich arch]

op grip to skelet stock and gran to soh

[ruby iris]

Quick response barrel, skeleton stock, tac laser, ext mag, free slot

[cunning rapids]

read rules

u gotta be respectful

[storm lance]

You have sync ads to fov right

[rich arch]

for what specific reason

[paper spade]

he literally gave good advice lol

[ruby iris]

Sub 18 is considered good

[late jetty]

Yes

[paper spade]

its ok they reacted the same when i told them kilo is bad in br

[cunning rapids]

@ruby iris mk2 w/ 3x scope?

[ruby iris]

9.6 bsa you can beam ppl across satellite

[cunning rapids]

pls

[late jetty]

I'm experiencing dizziness when i returned to normal setting

[storm lance]

That helps aiming and I never liked it at all

[ruby iris]

@uneven anchor

[rich arch]

3rd range is bad

[storm lance]

How many times did that poor guy get pinged by you

[visual tartan]

Hbr is a better kilo

[lean frost]

Catgang's been dead
Probably due to pharo slander

[visual tartan]

Atleast in mp lmao

[storm lance]

You need ads speed buddy

[lean frost]

But bsa

[paper spade]

lol

[ruby iris]

Best attachment for val ngl

[visual tartan]

Only problem

I swear if the bsa was better

[paper spade]

@visual tartan look at my ttk charts in the cyg server they show how the kilo is

[visual tartan]

Hbr would’ve been a W off meta

[lean frost]

It's like 20
Over 20

[late jetty]

I got used to it, also practicing marksmanship skills lol

[paper spade]

they have every mp gun

[visual tartan]

Ik 💀

[ruby iris]

Every time someone ping me asking for gunsmith i ping them

[visual tartan]

Its a mid range gun

[lean frost]

@ruby iris

[ruby iris]

Like ppl just cant read huh

[visual tartan]

@ruby iris wake up giga

[paper spade]

can someone rename @ruby iris back to "pong for gunsmith"

[storm lance]

I used to play with it but they appeared so far when using spr irons so i needed to take it off

[lean frost]

They killed catgang by slandering pharo

[paper spade]

we need to rename them back

its chaos otherwise

[storm lance]

Who between you guys wants to take catgang's name cause he might be asleep

[lean frost]

That's too good
Where the other attachments

[paper spade]

definitely @visual tartan

[ruby iris]

Below 18 is considered good

[lean frost]

toemouse
Or me

[storm lance]

Ok then let him change his name

[late jetty]

Yeah marksman rifle kinda hard to use with that setting but what i mean with marksmanship skills is to spot enemies at range and take them down

[ruby iris]

Default look smh

[storm lance]

Who's teomouse sorry

[lean frost]

ThomaB

[paper spade]

mission failed, well get em next time

[storm lance]

Ohh yea

[lean frost]

Unless u use the 11 metric
Yes
There's a whole nother metric for BSA

[storm lance]

It makes it easier to use normal settings

[visual tartan]

Yes

[storm lance]

Ok then guys I'm out for working on something see you later

[late jetty]

Yeah but i don't use mm's

[storm lance]

Ohh I'm a sniper Marksman main so i need that clear vision but my aim would change completely

That's why I stick to normal settings

[ruby iris]

My val has 29 smh

[rich arch]

stippled when

[ruby iris]

Use another gun if you aint gonna stack mobility then

[late jetty]

Snipers also looks good with sync ads

[late jetty]

My best snd kill so far

[rich arch]

LCAR

[ruby iris]

Val is limited by 450m/s bv, so using it for any kind of ranged performance is pointless

[rich arch]

meanwhile LAPA with ranger barrel

mfs be using it like a worse AR

[ruby iris]

You stack mobility on val or you dont use val

[cunning rapids]

Ima just make a mk build

[rich arch]

3x in BR?

[lean frost]

U use type 25 so no one blames u for having 2.7 m/s strafe

[ruby iris]

Then dont use val

Simple

[rich arch]

use it in BR with SP

[lean frost]

use a different gun
I suggest RPD

[ruby iris]

^

[paper spade]

why would you use val if you dont want mobility

other guns can be vastly superior for that purpose

[rich arch]

because counterintuitivity

[late jetty]

It's an elongated smg bro

[paper spade]

Rus lcar is the best secondary

[rich arch]

real

[lean frost]

Or PKM
Both Soviet LMGS(isn't PKM a HMG actually) are goated if u don't want mobility

[dusty heart]

Suppressed ak actually

[late jetty]

Then use it as an smg

[ruby iris]

450m/s bv:
Good base mobility:
Below average recoil and bsa:

[cunning rapids]

MP

[rich arch]

the only reason they put it in AR category is its VSS conversio

[late jetty]

Saw someone running piranha foregrip

[rich arch]

but 3030 is bad

[wary tulip]

M4LmG gunsmith please

[paper spade]

what is the lcar gunsmith again?

[cunning rapids]

How

[rich arch]

smaller 1stk hitbox

[late jetty]

Me building MW11 like a deagle

[lean frost]

Loses dlq hitboxes
Slower rpm than semi autos iirc

[rich arch]

5mw
ext/ext fast mag
lightweight stock
agency
any attachment

[paper spade]

not for hipfire

but for range

[cunning rapids]

Then give build

[lean frost]

[rich arch]

longshot or?

[ruby iris]

There's like a billion reason to play val as a high mobility, close range flex ar and another billion reason to no play it as a slow passive main ar

[paper spade]

hmm

[rich arch]

replace 3030 with suppressor or bullet return or soh

[paper spade]

like lcar but if u never hipfire

[rich arch]

trust

[late jetty]

Lcar is not ment for long range

[paper spade]

woah

really?

[cunning rapids]

Who would want bullet return

[lean frost]

Light supp
Sport barrel
Combat
Stippled
3x
I think this should work good

[late jetty]

Use deagle then

[whole pumice]

I have never understood people building the val with foregrips and heavy stocks like just use a holger instead

[rich arch]

individual bullet reload

[lean frost]

But VSS

[lean frost]

actually even that uses normal build with mag swapped only iirc

[rich arch]

range values similar to MAC-10

[whole pumice]

use sks

[rich arch]

very low

[paper spade]

i thought lcar was better than the zrg for range because of its fire rate

[ruby iris]

Aka worse sks that you can only use up to like mid range

You get like

[rich arch]

mobility val can midrange

[ruby iris]

20m of effective range

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

midrange enough even for SMGs

[ruby iris]

0-20 is close
20-40 is mid
40+ is long

[rich arch]

then it is still midrange barely

[lean frost]

crispy sounds

[whole pumice]

How slow/fast is the ads with the tac scope

[ruby iris]

You'll be adding an extra frame on top of the already existing 3 frames to your ttk for every 7.5m

[paper spade]

hmm why mk over spr svd or sks

[rich arch]

for fun or for mastery i believe

[whole pumice]

Mk has better bolt time

[lean frost]

Mk2 with standard ammo has pretty good stats

[lean frost]

~~actually it's a lever action ~~

[ruby iris]

Non otm drh moment

[whole pumice]

What happened to the otm mag?

Oh. No otm

[ruby iris]

Man is addicted to bsa

[rich arch]

OTM overrated

[paper spade]

@ruby iris tell me to sleep

[lean frost]

All of these have worse BSA than oden

[ruby iris]

Go to sleep

[lean frost]

[whole pumice]

Otm literally makes the DRH viable tf

[paper spade]

damn i need to go to sleep

[rich arch]

literally /s

[whole pumice]

Oh

Mb

[rich arch]

gru grip AK better bsa

[ruby iris]

No suppression + bad mobility, even for main ar

[rich arch]

suppression overrated! 1!1 1!!1!1!1 1 1!1!1! 1

[ruby iris]

Real

[ruby iris]

Wait til he realises m21 has 0 bsa

[whole pumice]

Does the DRH have even a high enough recoil to need a foregrip?

[prime frost]

Im broke

[ruby iris]

No lmao

[rich arch]

every sniper/mmrf (excluding sks) in existence

[prime frost]

😑

[lean frost]

Which is why we added no muzzle and only 1 supp barrel to Maddox
Our newest gun

[cunning rapids]

Lemme check

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

Sks also has 0 bsa

[rich arch]

but yujji said it has

because of shake

[whole pumice]

It's like the same as that guy in ranked tdm running ranger on the icr

[ruby iris]

Hmm when?

[rich arch]

still very low BSA

[rich arch]

its like pre adjust ASM10

[prime frost]

I want a battle pass or cod poin or something good i only use the snipers and yeah i have bad stuff please someone help me😑

[whole pumice]

No lmao

[ruby iris]

Think it had bsa before the rework

Now it doesnt anymore

[rich arch]

the BSA mechanic it had before rework is same as SKS

[whole pumice]

What "rework"

[prime frost]

Ok 😔

[ruby iris]

Flinch

[cunning rapids]

@whole pumice

[late jetty]

Is this still the ak117 class?

[ruby iris]

Bsa → flinch for snipers

[rich arch]

ASM10 had unique feature in terms of BSA

[ruby iris]

Ye

[whole pumice]

Skill issue i fear

[prime frost]

WOW

[rich arch]

hard to explain tho

[lean frost]

Reminds me of catgang's cbr class

[cunning rapids]

Tact laser can be gran

[late jetty]

No

[cunning rapids]

yes

[rich arch]

anti laserphobic

[whole pumice]

Hmm somewhat similar to sp locus? Not bad

[rich arch]

[whole pumice]

Oh ye i know of that

[whole pumice]

Snipers?

[lean frost]

Standard Mk2 has like
Sub 320~ ms ads time

[late jetty]

283ms ads time

[cunning rapids]

Nothing wrong with laser but kinda annoying

[prime frost]

I want something good😠im jealous i only have the gold butterfly knife and the gold koska

[rich arch]

SKS has it too except BSA is very very tight that its barely noticeable

[cunning rapids]

Then grind diamond

[prime frost]

No

[cunning rapids]

Lazy?

[prime frost]

No

[rich arch]

me when SOH because aggro AR cant reloadfast enuff

[prime frost]

I got the dimond chopper in my old account

[cunning rapids]

Then grind

[prime frost]

But it got deleted

[narrow glen]

@prime frost, 1

[lean frost]

Agr 556's reload

[prime frost]

😑

[rich arch]

i use soh instead of stock because yes

[prime frost]

This suckkkks

[lean frost]

Well
Empty reload to be exact
Tac reload decent

[cunning rapids]

Then get it

hp shipment

go grind

Faster

[rich arch]

laserphobic real

[rich arch]

when suppressor

then don't

[dense tinsel]

Replace suppressor with mono for better 3tap potential

[rich arch]

he cannot be convinced, he needs bsa boost

[acoustic bramble]

What’s the most downvoted build in #codm-gunsmith-builds

[dense tinsel]

Bsa got buffed for the drh its fine now

[rich arch]

even if you say that, he'll want more BSA 💀

[acoustic bramble]

you guys must know it

[dense tinsel]

If he replaces the laser with tac he will be beaming 60m+

Nvm

He already uses it there is like no bsa bruh💀

[rich arch]

use EBR

no bsa stack needed

SKS?

[dense tinsel]

Man o war is a good alternative

It can 3tap roo

[rich arch]

BSA boost that too

[dense tinsel]

No snipers has bsa lol

[rich arch]

never needed

[ruby iris]

18 bsa is enough

[rich arch]

Any good game recommendations except codm pubg apex fortnite

[drifting prism]

What is best pistol in game

[dusty heart]

Wait drh got a bsa buff?

[rich arch]

.50 gs or lcra

[dense tinsel]

Exactly

[ruby iris]

Ye, it has the same bsa as ak117

[drifting prism]

K

[rich arch]

[dusty heart]

Then neon shuriken blueprint will be useful

[ruby iris]

Default look

[prime frost]

Are these good

[prime finch]

Can somebody give me passive build for AK-47 for MP?

[ruby iris]

#codm-gunsmith-builds has one iirc

[prime frost]

Anyone

[ruby iris]

It is an mw19 model

[rich arch]

base drh is same as that blueprint's ironsight tho

then dont use it 💀

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

real

shit base DRH! 1!1!1 1!1 1 1 1!1 1! 1!!

[ruby iris]

Anyways

18 bsa is enough

[ruby iris]

You only need more if you specifically fight at long range

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

Ehh, looks boring tbh, the handguard extension is a good spin on the scar 17

[prime frost]

Who knows any codes that work

[ruby iris]

Shame

[rich arch]

well, its not like devs will follow what you ask

[ruby iris]

Mother pearl

[prime finch]

Quick question. Is GRU Combo Grip good attachment for AK-47 when it comes down go passive playstyle?

[prime frost]

Does anyone know any codes that work please

[rich arch]

ye

[ruby iris]

Nah, not enough range boost

[prime frost]

😑

[ruby iris]

Ranger barrel better

[rich arch]

but bsa and recoil

[prime frost]

I need codes if there even is any i need good stuff

[ruby iris]

Gru only good for br tbh

[rich arch]

[prime finch]

Well...

Tbh, idk should I choose GRU or no

[rich arch]

ranger

barrel

[prime frost]

Is there no codes for call of duty mobile

[rich arch]

then add mono

[prime finch]

On one hand, really good BSA, almost zero recoil

[uneven anchor]

gru mfs

[rich arch]

expired

[prime frost]

Expired?

[uneven anchor]

ranger or ext light or short 👍

[prime finch]

But compared to ranger, range isn't really that good

[uneven anchor]

ext light

also range ak is pretty good, 3stk for days

[prime finch]

But also GRU features romanian grip, which is one of my favorite front grips

[drifting prism]

Can i have best ak47 build

[uneven anchor]

well too bad bozo gru sug

[drifting prism]

Cat sup

[uneven anchor]

ello

[drifting prism]

Do u use ak ?

[prime finch]

So then, ranger barrel?

[uneven anchor]

Kinda

[drifting prism]

Can i have its build

[uneven anchor]

my build
Mono
Ranger
Mag
No stock
Laser

[drifting prism]

I just spent all cards to max its lvl 🙂

[vernal nimbus]

Dog shit

[uneven anchor]

Ball

[drifting prism]

@vernal nimbus gib urs

[vernal nimbus]

u sure?

My builds aint for the weak

[uneven anchor]

[drifting prism]

Oke

[uneven anchor]

Shut up and give ur build nerd

[drifting prism]

Send

[prime finch]

Isn't that kinda your daily avarage AK build?

[uneven anchor]

meh

not alot of people use ranger

well theres hbr, ak, that one shotgun

[drifting prism]

Which mag ?

[uneven anchor]

dlq

[vernal nimbus]

Not for the weak fr

[uneven anchor]

50r / 40r

i use 40r but it doesnt matter

[drifting prism]

Oke

[uneven anchor]

👍

[prime finch]

AK, Hbr, Striker, RPD, ASM10, M4, DLQ

Oh yea, Pharo

[drifting prism]

Cat which laser ?

[uneven anchor]

maybe tac sup but gud

[vernal nimbus]

Soft

[uneven anchor]

Owc

[vernal nimbus]

I want them to know what hit em before they die

[drifting prism]

Alr

[vernal nimbus]

“Fuck its the ak😫”

[uneven anchor]

[prime finch]

My AK build is:
GRU Combo Grip
Mag B
No stock
Strippled
Tac laser

Please help me how to improve it.

[vernal nimbus]

Told u i got the best builds

[uneven anchor]

Shid

[vernal nimbus]

Take off gru

[uneven anchor]

he likes gru

[prime finch]

Ok. For what barrel?

[vernal nimbus]

Ranger or none

[uneven anchor]

ranger short or ext light

[prime finch]

I'll take le ranger

[vernal nimbus]

If he uses gru he cant handle ext light

[prime finch]

For that good range

[uneven anchor]

lol he cant be that bad

[prime finch]

But also as cat said, AK already has good range, so might as well use none

[uneven anchor]

it does but giga range

with ranger

[vernal nimbus]

Lk24 steps in:

[uneven anchor]

lk 3stk when

[prime finch]

Yeah, almost a range of a damn sniper rifle

[vernal nimbus]

Yall owe me

[uneven anchor]

owe you what

[vernal nimbus]

Yall didnt believe in the lk frfr

Told u nubs lk is the best gun in the game

[uneven anchor]

i dont think i was a disbeliever

but i dont remember

cat brain

[vernal nimbus]

True

Honestly

Take the mag off my ak build for a suppressor if u dont wanna make the ground shake

[uneven anchor]

my other build was yours but mag to tac

perhaps mono

[vernal nimbus]

Name 1 time ive ever sent a bad build

I’ll wait

[vernal nimbus]

Copied me frfr

[uneven anchor]

[uneven anchor]

AGR

most dog shid build i have ever seen

[dusty heart]

Why 1 when I can name multiple

[uneven anchor]

common tomoko W

next season AGR META

NO recoil YOO

[rich arch]

but ttk bad

buff ttk

[lean frost]

Ttk is solid for 4 tapper

[visual tartan]

Wait it has reekoil ?

Wtf you on about homie

[eternal apex]

What’s a good build for the M16

[uneven anchor]

your mom

[visual tartan]

Tac suppressor/integral suppressor, rds/holo 2, rubberizzed, operator fg, tac laser

No wf cuz wildfire is for noobs

[visual tartan]

Use chad burst

[eternal apex]

[uneven anchor]

agr will literally be kilo but bettr

[visual tartan]

Homies

Thoughts on na45 in br ?

[uneven anchor]

@lean frost

[lean frost]

Dogshid

[visual tartan]

Sedge

Anyways

Rytec is too op

2 tap semi auto

Thats literal bs

[uneven anchor]

2?

[visual tartan]

Chest

[lean frost]

Catgang
He's talking about BR

[visual tartan]

1 tap head

[uneven anchor]

whats he smogin

o

[lean frost]

the BR pack

[visual tartan]

Cat arent you br main ofc i’m talking br

[uneven anchor]

smogin that br pack

[visual tartan]

Ong the br guns for my loadout now are rpd and rytec

[uneven anchor]

xpr bettr

[visual tartan]

In many ways

But rytec fun

I accidently shot someone in head today

And i had 2 tapped

So bro got head knocked with first shot, and insta killed with second

Imagine his irritation 💀

He had just started shooting at me

Also disable on both rpd and rytec too good

[rich arch]

urmo

[vernal nimbus]

Name them

[vernal nimbus]

Its actually a good build especially for how the gun is currently set up

[uneven anchor]

[vernal nimbus]

If you think its bad then lets do a 1v1 my agr build vs yours

[uneven anchor]

rare herbo L

nah im good lol

[vernal nimbus]

Ok whats so bad about the build

[uneven anchor]

Post it again

[lean frost]

Op fg
Agr doesn't have verticals
It's got a shiton o horizontal

[visual tartan]

Imma use jak with explosive rounds in br

[visual tartan]

Just because why not

[visual tartan]

Fuck off

[vernal nimbus]

My build vs yours watch me beam more

[lean frost]

dies

[visual tartan]

@lean frost show him da agr strafe

With light stock

[vernal nimbus]

If you say no strafe stock, I’ve shown countless amount of times I don’t need to strafe to best people

[visual tartan]

Reeducate this mf

[uneven anchor]

(herbo doesnt know agr has the best bsa an smg could have)

[lean frost]

4.41 m/s

[vernal nimbus]

I dont depend on strafe speed

[visual tartan]

Yessir

Fastest in game

[visual tartan]

Skill issue

[lean frost]

isn't that mx9
anyways

[visual tartan]

Idk

[vernal nimbus]

😂

[visual tartan]

Imma go abuse explosive jak in br

[vernal nimbus]

but can your build compete with mine is the question

[uneven anchor]

feast your eyes herb

best buildge

[lean frost]

Ksp-45

Chicom

[uneven anchor]

burst mfs

[lean frost]

U said best bsa

[vernal nimbus]

I dont want the meta build, I built my agr for me

[uneven anchor]

its literally just a bettr build

[lean frost]

actually this is the better build

[uneven anchor]

actually

[vernal nimbus]

Ok u win but i still like mine

[uneven anchor]

Fair

[lean frost]

I demand suppression as a snd pleb

[uneven anchor]

snd mfs being on their way to be the most miserable people on the planet

[lean frost]

But u can bully people and pick up their gun after killing them

[uneven anchor]

Why would i want to pick up shid builds

[lean frost]

True

[uneven anchor]

kinda wanna join the test server for AGR

[lean frost]

Doesn't really matter if everyone's dead tho

[uneven anchor]

fk it why not i hit top 5k, leggy in both modes

[lean frost]

Tell us how good it is
And turn off gyro u pleb

[uneven anchor]

cant play with any of you nerds so

[uneven anchor]

never

[lean frost]

[uneven anchor]

cougar become gyro when

[lean frost]

No