codm-gunsmith-help

[young shale]

Sniper is either hold angles or become nightyt

[scarlet jacinth]

It's type 25

Smh what's wrong with pistol as a secondary

Melee has been nerfed

[near zenith]

Yea no shit, i said ar

[near zenith]

I just said why would u use amped

[scarlet jacinth]

For rank hp?

I wonder

[near zenith]

Tf u talking about

[scarlet jacinth]

The whole load out is for hp rank

Tf u mean

[near zenith]

Pretty sure amped works best on snipers with melees, on ar and pistol use gunho or whatever

[scarlet jacinth]

Do you even know what's amped for?

[near zenith]

Switching faster?

[cunning rapids]

It’s literally weapon switch faster lmao

[scarlet jacinth]

Throwing tacticals

[cunning rapids]

and there’s a quick switch setting

[scarlet jacinth]

I am not using it for quick switch obv

[near zenith]

Is tha a thing for amped?

[scarlet jacinth]

I use it for faster throw

Yes

[near zenith]

I didnt know that

[scarlet jacinth]

[near zenith]

Well well how does that help u anyways?

[scarlet jacinth]

It's hardpoint!

[near zenith]

How much faster

[scarlet jacinth]

The difference is astonishing

Idk in numbers

[near zenith]

Cuz from my experience

[cunning rapids]

excludes pistol and melee swaps.

[near zenith]

Its only faster swapping to ur grenade not throwing it

[paper pond]

J358 build

[zealous badger]

What does that do

[tawny walrus]

Muzzle flash, short barrel, tactical laser, lightweight trigger, 8 rounds magazine.

[zealous badger]

What it is is it's faster switching either to your melee or from your melee to your sniper

[near zenith]

What about the bit that says grenade swap im confused about that bit

[zealous badger]

I think it makes it so that when your throw your grenade you can pull your sniper out faster after idk

Or maybe you can throw faster

[near zenith]

Oh ok

[zealous badger]

Don't quote me on that it's a guess

[near zenith]

Alright lol

[rich arch]

What is the meta build on dingo

[pallid ivy]

this channel is now filled with nothing but just cringe ass builds

[knotty cobalt]

The downfall of the Gunsmith Masters

[tawny walrus]

That’s sad.

[rich arch]

Need a sks loadout for br

[zealous hinge]

Unfortunate, apparently they wanna be accepting of every build not just scrim and ranked grind builds

I kinda stopped caring for building as I did in the past

[dapper laurel]

Did @ruby iris take a break?

[rich arch]

One question about gunsmith, is 30m for AR too much?
And yes do I need that much range since it is always going to be 4stk anyway

If I need 30m gunfight why not just master SR quickscope

And yes don't tell me to risk for hit the head for once, such chance in panic gunfight is slim

[ruby iris]

Phone broke

Im back now

[rich arch]

It is like ppls getting bored for meta or being bad with meta and actually want to try something that suits their playstyle and ability

[ruby iris]

I am back

[ruby iris]

Hi

[tawny walrus]

Hello, ricey.

[lime magnet]

Hellow

[ruby iris]

[stray rapids]

Noe

[ruby iris]

The more the better tbh

[stray rapids]

I'd say use ARs up to 50m

Beyond that it's gonna be challenging to outgun snipers

[rich arch]

Then why the fuck I don't just use a sniper rifle

[stray rapids]

Most ARs have good ttk up to 50m anyways

[ruby iris]

If it doesnt fuck with mobility that is

[rich arch]

It is about the length of the hallway of nuketown russia

[lime magnet]

Hellow Legends

[stray rapids]

Nuke Town abit different imo

[rich arch]

If my BSA makes only 1-5 bullet hit in that long distance, why I don't just use a SR

[stray rapids]

Since the hallway thing is pretty narrow

I'd choose sniper

(i won't)

How bad can u miss with that narrow anyways

[lime magnet]

So where can I get rank roles ?

I mean where can I ?

[rich arch]

I don't know, eyesight issue maybe
My eyes is getting worse

[stray rapids]

Level up in server

[ruby iris]

You can get like 6-7 shots down for a 10r burst, not that bad tbh

[lime magnet]

What the ?

[ruby iris]

It's server levels

[lime magnet]

Oh my bad

[rich arch]

You talk=you get in server exp
Exp=you level up
You level up=begging rights

[lime magnet]

Although I started cod a week ago -_-

[rich arch]

I also don't have that much time to practice shots

I just have to study academic English stuff

[ruby iris]

This is considering average recoil control btw, you can prolly squeeze in 1-2 more if you have good aim

[lime magnet]

Whatever

[steel comet]

Guys, how do I get those rank badges like you have?

[lime magnet]

Anyone got tips for frontline ?

[rich arch]

Then that is possible for me

[steel comet]

Camp

[ruby iris]

It's server level, not ingame rank

[rich arch]

Lmg+disable+good cover and high point

[ruby iris]

^

[steel comet]

Oh, right

[lime magnet]

I don't like camping , it's boring... Seriously

[lime magnet]

That's what I do

[rich arch]

I can control recoil up to 25m, once it is 30 I will just got 1/2 shots hit per mag suggest the foes stand still

[stray rapids]

@undone sandal br blae

[lime magnet]

But I can't make it more than 30 kills

[rich arch]

Play tdm then

[ruby iris]

But that is camping, no?

[rich arch]

I mean camping is not that disgusting if you pick a good point and force enemies to come to your location

[lime magnet]

Not really excluding cover , what I do is jump down from structures with my my cordite and boom headshot

[rich arch]

Like crash's 2/f

[steel comet]

I mean, yeah, it is. Then you can treat it like a TDM except you cycle holding left, mid and right lanes.

[ruby iris]

@rich arch ^

[lime magnet]

What's this

[dapper laurel]

Welcome back!

[lime magnet]

Is tdm and frontline different ?

[ruby iris]

Average control

Ppl could do better

[rich arch]

Hitting less shots then you, abt 2-4 shots less

[ruby iris]

A lot better

[lime magnet]

I mean the game mode

[ruby iris]

Training

[stray rapids]

Personal experience, but with rpd i could do around 70m with no stock

Rpd built different

[lime magnet]

And how to play this mode...

[steel comet]

Yeah, your team spawns at the same place in Frontline. In TDM, spawns vary depending on enemies around your spawn point. So, you can spawn on either of the two sides in TDM.

[rich arch]

This could take 2 weeks for me to do the same level of @ruby iris considering I choose to sacrifice my revision time

[lime magnet]

Cuse seems to be helpful

[stray rapids]

Don't

It's just a game

[ruby iris]

Multiplayer → training → training ground

[lime magnet]

Hmm 🤨

[steel comet]

I avoid Frontline because it gets campy real quick.

[lime magnet]

Thanks for help , now I can get through my dl q33

[lime magnet]

Seriously...

See this ^

[rich arch]

But I won't stand seeing myself not doing my best

[lime magnet]

Wait

[steel comet]

I play SnD instead and that's even more cutthroat lol.

[lime magnet]

I am chapri_69^

[stray rapids]

🗿

[steel comet]

Bruh, you played with bots.

[ruby iris]

Lowkey prefer frontline over tdm, cuz dumbass teammates keeps pushing into enemies's spawn and flip the spawn, ruining my spawn trap

[steel comet]

I get it

[ruby iris]

[lime magnet]

Can be said but it was my first 10v10

[tawny walrus]

@ruby iris Do you have EM2 build for BR?

[steel comet]

How many times have ya'll hit Leggy?

[rich arch]

Bruh losing at the moment you activate the nuke lmao

[lime magnet]

Painful

[ruby iris]

Nah, em2 is a no go for br

[undone sandal]

later

[steel comet]

aight

[tawny walrus]

Alright, I wanted to grind it there.

[lime magnet]

So is it good that I rush in frontline and make my team win

[steel comet]

Yeah, it can be

[lime magnet]

K

[steel comet]

Anyone play Search & Destroy here?

[lime magnet]

What's the best smh tho

[stray rapids]

Shake my head

[steel comet]

SMG?

[stray rapids]

Cbr prob

[lime magnet]

Ya

[ruby iris]

Cbr, good + easy to use + big mag + fast rpm

[steel comet]

I see Mac10 and CBR a lot these days. Fennec is a good one too, but it's hard to control just like Mac10.

[steel comet]

Yessir

[undone sandal]

ask in #940969972983791626

[tawny walrus]

I see a lot of people are abusing PP-19, Fennec, CBR and Switchblade.

[lime magnet]

So I only have rus and cordite -_-

[ruby iris]

[steel comet]

Forgot the channel I was in, midst of all this side talk lol

[rich arch]

And the best thing is, you could save stuff for resetted round and goes TENNOHEIKA BANZAI with 5 of your friends using operator skills

[steel comet]

RUS is good too. It comes down to skill unless you're in high ranks.

[stray rapids]

I don't understand rus tbh

Range or mobility wise it can beat cbr

Not both at same time*

[lime magnet]

I am Br Pro 1 rank and Mp Elite 3 rank

[stray rapids]

But it's considered bad

[ruby iris]

@stray rapids

[stray rapids]

Supposedly just weak head multi no penetration

[undone sandal]

did you know

hive range

[steel comet]

Fine. Use whatever you're good with at that rank.

[stray rapids]

Lemme phrase differently

Cbr loses to rus mobility or range

[undone sandal]

hive range goes beyond spawn to spawn in meltdown

[stray rapids]

Not at the same time*

But again yes, cbr feels miles better than rus

[lime magnet]

I like any smg with Xpr or dl q33

[ruby iris]

It isnt considered good if it cant bench the current good guns, and most of the time, good guns are the ones ppl spam in ranked, aka meta

[steel comet]

I would still recommend using the gun you're good with.

[stray rapids]

Any gun works if u good

[steel comet]

If you're a total noob, that is.

[lime magnet]

So the problem is with the smg

[steel comet]

Yet, meta affects your chances of ranking up.

[lime magnet]

Which is good

[stray rapids]

@undone sandal i met a gyro pro yesterday

Got trashed 40-20💀

[steel comet]

Na, man. I know many people who would beat good meta players with non meta SMGs. Use the gun you're comfortable with using. Try CBR though, it's noob friendly.

[undone sandal]

gg

[austere igloo]

Hows this now

[stray rapids]

At least mf say i was better than most ranktards

by quite a mile

[austere igloo]

Ranktards

[undone sandal]

cool

[stray rapids]

Where colossus

[austere igloo]

Perfectly described

[austere igloo]

Took it out

Replaced with ranger fg

[stray rapids]

@austere igloo @undone sandal let's blay priv

[austere igloo]

Cannot

[undone sandal]

na

[stray rapids]

Hm try comparing ranger fg and marksman barrel

[austere igloo]

My work resumes in 10mins

[stray rapids]

😔

[open escarp]

yo? anyone up for custom lobby?

[ruby iris]

#940969972983791626

[tawny walrus]

#codm-gunsmith-builds

[boreal owl]

[dapper laurel]

@ruby iris I’m pretty sure you need to claim your giveaway prize!

[ruby iris]

Giveaway claim hasnt opened?

[dapper laurel]

It’s been open for like 2 days.

[ruby iris]

I dont see it

Rerolled?

[stuck depot]

Naw they just straight up didnt give u the role

[tawny walrus]

I think they’re acknowledged about something.

[dapper laurel]

@ruby iris Contact mods or something.

[ruby iris]

@undone sandal

[tawny walrus]

[dapper laurel]

Pretty sure he’s offline now.

[tawny walrus]

He’s just busy.

[dapper laurel]

Best hipfire gun for MP?

[stuck depot]

Probly mac

[dapper laurel]

I’m going to try out a stim/gung ho class.

I need a good hipfire weapon.

[tawny walrus]

Corditte also have good hip fire accuracy.

[dapper laurel]

It does IG. Imma try both.

[austere igloo]

Cordite is underrated

But gks even more

[pallid ivy]

@ruby iris what ya gonna do this much nitro

[ruby iris]

Idk

[pallid ivy]

I just saw 1 year classic has 16% discount

[ruby iris]

[ruby iris]

Wow

[pallid ivy]

Just have to wait 3-4 weeks

Okay

[ruby iris]

[pallid ivy]

[ruby iris]

[stuck depot]

Name ur sks dingo n boom all the stats r correct

[austere igloo]

[ruby iris]

But sks has shit fire rate and mobility

ik it's a joke dont kill me

[stuck depot]

Nothing stims n spam tap fire cant do

[austere igloo]

Sks noobs enjoyers

[undone sandal]

sup

[ruby iris]

Gib

Pls

[undone sandal]

ping lead mod

[ruby iris]

[undone sandal]

or ask in modmail

[ruby iris]

Like who?

[undone sandal]

[undone sandal]

miky

[ruby iris]

@golden agate

Mf

Wrong miky

[undone sandal]

@humble sand

[tawny walrus]

@near solstice

[floral aurora]

Dingo never better the holger

[austere igloo]

Dingo <<<< holger

[humble lark]

Any good build for kirg 6

For fast mobility

[rich arch]

i got a karambit now yay

[river zodiac]

👍

congrats

[rich arch]

also any tips for quick scope using sniper

[whole moss]

is 89 mobility good enough for you?

[lean frost]

no

Need 200

[whole moss]

how

[near zenith]

Dont look at the stats bar bro

[whole moss]

also melees exist 💀

[near zenith]

Look at the comparison page

[whole moss]

i know

[lean frost]

We know

[whole moss]

I'm not a nerd bro

if anything this dude is a nerd

[lean frost]

Everyone calls me crazy for saying rytec is meta while dlq isn't tho

[whole moss]

ay fuck the dlq rytec better I concur

[rich arch]

rytec actually good but not meta but idk my opinion

[lean frost]

Dlq isn't meta so there's that

Rytec is questionable

[rich arch]

Also can any1 teach me how to quick scope using sniper

[whole moss]

use the aiming button

thank me later

[lean frost]

Yes

[rich arch]

i wanna say outlaw meta 💀

[rich arch]

[lean frost]

Still remember the time Ferg said it's best sniper

[rich arch]

TRUE

[whole moss]

ok you've already lost at life when you watched ferg

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

I dont think rytec is the best overall, but it certainly the best in cn comps

[lean frost]

I mean
Ferg is extremely questionable but like
he did say he was trolling with that afterwards
So even he isn't crazy enough

[rich arch]

i barely watch codm content to begin with but i just found ferg getting nukes with weapons good the rest of his content not my fav

[ruby iris]

Watch paff

Or cyg

[lean frost]

👍

[tawny walrus]

[winter grail]

any dingo build?

[boreal owl]

Full steel rain

Maybe bo stock but

Steel rain

[slender glacier]

M13 Morningstar no recoil?

[waxen dune]

it has recoil but no aim shake

[minor dragon]

just put everything steel rain except for the magazine. Put the striker foregrip instead

[slender glacier]

ok

[coral cloud]

any asm10 build

[fallen hollow]

Here's one of if not the best m13 build
You can switch to the short barrel if you want to move faster but it will be harder to control but not by that much

[boreal owl]

tf small mag dingo

[boreal owl]

@ruby iris m4?
I need comparison

[ruby iris]

Mono, light short, tac laser, gran, mag

[coral cloud]

thanks

[boreal owl]

ahhh
I don't have mono up andddd not light short

yeah Imma test this out

[minor dragon]

Light mag is awful

[boreal owl]

I've been testing out
so my build got less recoil and less mobility
but other shits are almost the same

[boreal owl]

sr mag exists

[austere igloo]

Wtf is this? McDonalds soldier

[minor dragon]

You already have 80 rounds. Any more is unnecessary

[boreal owl]

ok

clearly you don't understand the point being lmg

[minor dragon]

I do. I use them all the time. 80 is more than enough.

Better to have more strafe and movement speed

[boreal owl]

I don't have to explain more I see

[minor dragon]

Whilst no sacrificing anything

Win win in my book

[boreal owl]

sr mag only add more ads time

smh

[minor dragon]

Dingo is literal garbage for long range

So sacrificing mobility is not a good option

[boreal owl]

it's not losing any mobility wtf

I just told you it only add more ads time

[minor dragon]

That is apart of mobility you idiot. Ads speed is important for close and mid range

[boreal owl]

just pre ads

is it that hard with lmg

and the ads it lost isn't that high

[obtuse willow]

Big Mac soldier

[lean frost]

Steel rain mag does make the ads about 4f slower
so there's that

[whole moss]

dam i love mcdonalds, I'm gonna start maining that skin

[rich arch]

[humble sand]

Unfortunately as usual, if user don't respond for 48h ( which was more for this giveaway winners ), prize get rerolled

[ruby iris]

Mf

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

My phone broke

[ruby iris]

@pallid ivy

[hollow pendant]

I just got 3nukes and I died 3 time's

[pallid ivy]

Bruh

[ruby iris]

It is what it is

[hollow pendant]

And I forgot to record it

[ruby iris]

Hope i win next gw again

[rich arch]

[dusty heart]

Same

[uneven anchor]

discord unrestricted

[ruby iris]

Red @uneven anchor

Wow

[uneven anchor]

hell yeah bby

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

the color of labor and love Reds RISE

[rich arch]

🫡

[pallid ivy]

@dusty heart where have ya been

Ya freak

Did he dead again

[dusty heart]

Nah

[dusty heart]

Work

[pallid ivy]

[pallid ivy]

Can't even make an excuse ?

[dusty heart]

Just joined back out of boredom

[pallid ivy]

Rice said that his phone been broken last few days

[dusty heart]

I’ll still be inactiveish

What’s new in codm btw,tried opening but net was too shitty

[pallid ivy]

P2W

[pallid ivy]

Ahh lot of things

New leggy m13 that shows the date when you started playing game on side

[dusty heart]

Tf

[pallid ivy]

Kitsune is here

[dusty heart]

Cutie

[pallid ivy]

She is in lucky box

So 2.4K cp around, pretty cheap

@dusty heart

2021 August 2

[dusty heart]

There was smth about prestige?

[pallid ivy]

Hmmm

[stray rapids]

His phone shouldn't have broke

[pallid ivy]

Max lvl cap is lvl 200

[dusty heart]

There’s like badges with star on profile

[pallid ivy]

Devs said they'll increase lvl cap again in near future

Yeah, just medals that shows your achievements like how many times you have been legendary in mp and br

Or how many mythics you have maxed out or how many legendary characters you own

Kinda useless thing

[dusty heart]

It looks niceish when you have all

[pallid ivy]

yeah but youll never get highest tier medals

[rich arch]

can i get a good kilo bolt-action build pls

[humble sand]

Nope

Rerolls planned already, should be out today or so

[pallid ivy]

ping me

ill be sleeping at that time

[ruby iris]

Sp mag also good

[winter grail]

need a LK24 build just to test the bp skin

[rich arch]

thanks alot!

[jade rover]

Beta unoriginal standard build

Chad creative superior build

232 vs 247ms ADS time and 3.24 vs 2.72 m/s ADS movement speed - beta wins there by a frame ADS time and a decent amount more ADS mobility

[winter grail]

need a LK24 build just to test the bp skin

[jade rover]

But recoil is much better on this

Light suppressor actually finding a use on a non-SR for once

[lean frost]

Supreme forgotten gun enjoyer

[jade rover]

I like Cordite

But

It’s very easy just worse than CBR4 in almost every way. Better if your not good at recoil correction because it also has a great fg

[rich arch]

Emerald gold is kinda mid ngl

[lean frost]

Hitflinch is one of the issues for cordite

[jade rover]

Try this though it’s insane

[jade rover]

Depend on the gun

[rich arch]

In most of them is

Only looks good on dlq

[jade rover]

All of the Turquoise guns too

[lean frost]

26m 4 stk vs 21m
Same ttk
Better strafe
Cringe hit flinch

[jade rover]

And I run tac scope 4 on Krig yeah but tbh KN44 makes Krig nearly irrelevant

[winter grail]

need a LK24 build just to test the bp skin

[jade rover]

CBR4 also has built-in FMJ

[jade rover]

One sec I’ll find one in chat history

[lean frost]

i forgot cbr is the only SMG with high pen

[austere igloo]

I hv an lk build

@winter grail here ya go, bp skin

[jade rover]

Yeah that’s the one

[winter grail]

thanks

[austere igloo]

[jade rover]

Almost the only build you can run with it too

[austere igloo]

Lk’s buff makes it busted in br now

[jade rover]

Oh I don’t play BR but sure

[austere igloo]

In mp not so much, a passive gun

[austere igloo]

Its much more stable than m4

The recoil is non-existent

[jade rover]

I quite like Kilo LMG for BR 👀

[austere igloo]

Based

I use oden

[jade rover]

DLQ mythic in BR is superior to all tho

[jade rover]

The scope is

[reef lantern]

Lemme see

[austere igloo]

In mp its not that diff from normal dlq

[reef lantern]

Thanks

[jade rover]

Why Skeleton over Combat

[rich arch]

any1 has a good mode and map for long shots

[austere igloo]

Worse flinch, worse crosshair drift & lung refresher

[jade rover]

Standoff Frontline 🤢

[rich arch]

for long shots?ok

[jade rover]

This for BR then? Or you mean MP - MP I’d have thought combat all the time

[austere igloo]

MP

[jade rover]

Yeah. No map+mode can compete

[austere igloo]

Combat offers only 5% more ads time than skelly

Not much big a diff

[jade rover]

I’ll see how many frames

[austere igloo]

It scopes in pretty fast already with mip light & skelly

I dont usually main snipers for the most part anyway so there

I only use it if I hv to grind for shit

[jade rover]

3+ frames is a very big difference, 2 is a difference that’s worth noting I guess and 1 frame doesn’t matter

One sec gonna check

It’s only a frame

🤔

I might try that

Well it’s 1-2 frames, about 50:50 as to whether it’s 1 or 2

[austere igloo]

So it doesnt matter then huh?

I can use skelly

[jade rover]

Half the time it doesn’t

[austere igloo]

Yea so Imma stick w skelly stock

[jade rover]

Half the time it does but not anything major unless you’re really aggro quickscoping

[austere igloo]

Im not a sniper main anyway

[jade rover]

I’m gonna try it

Thx

[austere igloo]

Yea no i dont do those things

[rich arch]

Ew

[austere igloo]

Turquoise guns mid

[rich arch]

Very good

[jade rover]

Turquoise and Emerald

That goes

I guess they’re both precious minerals

[rich arch]

Only looks good on dlq rest are mid

[austere igloo]

Turquoise & emerald dont really match imo

Go bttr with gold colored guns imo

Or guns with gold detail

Like this one

[jade rover]

Don’t own but it goes well with all the Christmas guns

I mean Holidays

[austere igloo]

Yea…def not getting it for my m16

[jade rover]

Also Teal Steel UL it’s nice with

[austere igloo]

Def not with this either

[jade rover]

I think codm has a typo bcos it’s called steal for some reason

[austere igloo]

Krm…ehhhhh 50/50

[jade rover]

Oh I’ve got one

@uneven anchor runs it

It works with the holiday/christmassy stuff imo

[austere igloo]

Eagle claw krm kinda matches

Since eagle claw krm is green

QQ9…ehh maybe 6/10

I havent gotten any emerald guns yet lel

[jade rover]

Best camo combo is this imo - not the new camo but I think it fits better than that for the mythic at least (season 1 special)

[austere igloo]

Red sprite?

[jade rover]

The lightning red 😍

Yeah

Also didn’t realise that had sound on

[austere igloo]

Switchblade mythic with polychromatic

[jade rover]

Nah that’s not as good

Poly is nice tho

[austere igloo]

& damascus

[whole moss]

i can't see the difference

[jade rover]

With the DLQ?

[jade rover]

Or Switchblade

[whole moss]

switchblade

[jade rover]

Switchblade Platinum imo

[austere igloo]

This is the default

& plat

[jade rover]

You got an image for that? I’ve seen it but don’t have it

[austere igloo]

I just showed u

[austere igloo]

^

[jade rover]

Platinum?

Oh

Ohh

[austere igloo]

Plat is def the best with mythic switchblade

[jade rover]

Yeah that looks best I think

[pallid ivy]

worst mythic frfr

[austere igloo]

How dare u

Mythic switchblade slander will not be tolerated

[pallid ivy]

name one other mythic that adds aimshake to weapon

[austere igloo]

M13 morningstar

[pallid ivy]

oh wait there isnt any other than sx9

[austere igloo]

Aimshake

[pallid ivy]

nope

[austere igloo]

M13 normal - no aimshake
M13 morningstar - yes aimshake

[austere igloo]

Yesss

[pallid ivy]

m13 has basically no aimshake

[austere igloo]

Morningstar does

[pallid ivy]

just used it minute ago in ranked

[austere igloo]

Dont try to lie to urself

Morningstar m13 does hv aimshake

[austere igloo]

Ive used it before

[austere igloo]

Messi cbr

[jade rover]

Nah i agree with Twily

[pallid ivy]

I literally own that shit

[austere igloo]

Edgeeee👎👎

[jade rover]

With the season 2 special camo

[austere igloo]

Nah

[jade rover]

🤷‍♂️ i think there isn’t much at all even for irons

@pallid ivy have you tried the passive M13 build?

[pallid ivy]

my build has suppressor barrel with no stock

[rich arch]

U need get that diamond

[pallid ivy]

i already have diamond for m13

[jade rover]

I wish I had morningstar 😦

[jade rover]

This seems ridiculous, it’s a 300ms ADS M13

But it’s a minigun

[pallid ivy]

heavy long and ranger foregrip...

[jade rover]

Yas

Put it like this: let’s say you’re looking over the poolside on Raid or some other line of sight thats not short range

[jade rover]

Would you rather Kilo or that (88 vs 68 ms fire interval)?

Heavy M13 is a hidden gem

Mainly if you have morningstar

[jade rover]

Try that build out and play it like tectonic kilo - it’s superior

[jade rover]

It’s not been picked up on yet

[pallid ivy]

why

[jade rover]

Because of the fire rate

[pallid ivy]

i dont have any problem with kilo recoil like tectonic does

[jade rover]

But M13 you need ranger or operator to use it passive

[pallid ivy]

nope

[jade rover]

You think at 30m you don’t need recoil control? Just skill issue I’m guessing?

[pallid ivy]

if you want passive weapon then just use kilo or krig

[jade rover]

Krig? Passive?

[pallid ivy]

m13 is more suited for close to mid range

[jade rover]

Ik

But with added range the really high fire rate makes it into some kind of MG42. Vs a Browning. If that comparison makes sense.

You’ll be surprised just take it into one game of ranked

It’s so much better with Morningstar too at range

Up close irons may as well be as good

Also the MIP muzzle break for scar

[uneven anchor]

fkn holgae i swear the guns bad not me

[jade rover]

And @uneven anchor I played some great SnD last night so it’s not always tired excuses

[uneven anchor]

probably lost big didnt ya

[jade rover]

Nah

[uneven anchor]

[jade rover]

I did really well against top 5000s

[lean frost]

Issue in skill level

[jade rover]

We had a great team tho, only one legendary but great communication

[uneven anchor]

[lean frost]

[jade rover]

Catgang has the slick movement but I bet he’s too aggressive in SnD

[uneven anchor]

the gun is actually vehemently mid

[rich arch]

can i get an build for the ZGR 20mm

[jade rover]

No point using it? But check chat history

[uneven anchor]

yeah yeah i know im the best

[lean frost]

what's a ZGR

is that a Walmart ZRG

[rich arch]

i ment zrg

[jade rover]

You’re amazing ofc but in an SnD match our squad could (did) take down players like you

[lean frost]

Light supp
Short barrel
Combat stock
Stippled
AP mag

[uneven anchor]

giga cope

[lean frost]

I agree
Ul736 better 👍

[jade rover]

Half of the team we faced were top 5000 guys

[uneven anchor]

if i was slot in their team, ur burnt

goofy ah mid top 5ks

mfs just play more than me to rank so high

[uneven anchor]

[jade rover]

Idk 🤷‍♂️ they were all better than us but we played it like constantly on comms, he’s pushing here etc

So they can do some mad slide with a CBR

Doesn’t matter you’re pre-aimed

[uneven anchor]

Typical liar behavior smh my head

[jade rover]

I swear

It might be in game history

How do I find that one sec

[uneven anchor]

If they were running this theyd win

[jade rover]

Your emerald one looks better

Moving around like some little snake

[uneven anchor]

barely covers the gun tho

[jade rover]

It still looks better. With the Christmas skin

[uneven anchor]

yooo snake gun

[ruby iris]

How to build qxr

[lean frost]

How to build arctic

[jade rover]

Your movement is super slithery

I wish I could do that

But tbf I’ve only been playing a couple months

[uneven anchor]

mono
no stock
Fast fire perk
gran
tac las

[ruby iris]

Ads stack

[uneven anchor]

(dont use qxr its hyper mid)

[jade rover]

Rytec

[lean frost]

But
Now it's a worse xpr

[uneven anchor]

Rytec

[jade rover]

Just don’t use Arctic simple

I love Pharo with stim and restock rn

And the taser

[lean frost]

[uneven anchor]

i got leggy arctic with 1 cp and have no use for it

[undone sandal]

stippled
strike fg
mip light
disable
fast reload

best build trust

[jade rover]

Woah

[uneven anchor]

incredible, invisible leggy

[undone sandal]

in all seriousness
mono, nostock, eb, tac laser, mag

[jade rover]

Idk about QXR seems not great so probs would just try and max mobility

[uneven anchor]

you dont have to mag it has 40r base mag

[lean frost]

How to build it so it isn't a worse version of a existing primary

And suddenly chat died
interesting

[uneven anchor]

ios restriction scared everyone away

oh you mean like right now.

chat rlly died.. am i alone

[rich arch]

anyone has a good HBRa3 build pls

[lean frost]

[uneven anchor]

[lean frost]

No one yet has yet figured out how to make qxr not be a worse version of a existing gun yet

[jade rover]

Mobility stronk

[lean frost]

But the mac-10 and fennec exist

[austere igloo]

Fennec > mac10

[austere igloo]

We dont use that here

[rich arch]

i do

[lean frost]

Both> mobility stack Qxr

[jade rover]

Fennec has much worse second range dmg than QXR

[austere igloo]

@rich arch

[uneven anchor]

can someone give me a gun better than agr

[rich arch]

thank you

[jade rover]

This is unironically my favourite ultra-CQC smg

[uneven anchor]

agr has ruined every other gun for me

[jade rover]

CBR4 lol

[austere igloo]

Who told u to use that gun

[uneven anchor]

everything is mid

[austere igloo]

Thats on u

[jade rover]

He likes it because he can be a slithery little snake with it

[austere igloo]

Agr is arbitrary

Not good per se

[jade rover]

That’s not what that word means btw

[uneven anchor]

ye agr has comparable weapon stats to meta rifles with cracked strafe speed

[jade rover]

Mediocre 👍

Hold on

[uneven anchor]

the only problem is recoil which has never been a problem for me

[jade rover]

Catgang i swear you were posting AR builds which trashed ADS movement speed to the extreme

[austere igloo]

Just bcoz someone is good at using agr doesnt suddenly make the agr a good weapon

[jade rover]

Yeah ofc

[austere igloo]

It just means the player is more skilled

[jade rover]

Yup

[uneven anchor]

not my krig but my kilo i nuked that ads speed

[austere igloo]

But it doesnt change the fact that the gun is mediocre

[jade rover]

Nobody is disagreeing with you

[uneven anchor]

how is agr mediocre..

[austere igloo]

[uneven anchor]

[austere igloo]

catgang’s perception is: Im good at using the gun, hence the gun is good

[uneven anchor]

show me a rifle with 4.5 ads m/s strafe speed

[jade rover]

I run mono marksman 50rnd tac laser and no stock. I used to run the striker stock or whatever they call it but I’ve finally realised the true power of kilo’s versatility and no stock gives 2 frames faster ADS

[austere igloo]

Instead of: im so good i can use a mediocre gun bttr than others

[uneven anchor]

oh wait you cant

[jade rover]

Yes

Did you mean AR?

[uneven anchor]

yea

[austere igloo]

Yes

[jade rover]

SMGs I can but that gun is an SMG

[austere igloo]

He meant that

[uneven anchor]

literally no rifle has 4.5 strafe

[jade rover]

Why would it matter if rifles can’t achieve that

[austere igloo]

And? Whats ur point?

Its an smg

[lean frost]

Swordfish

[austere igloo]

[uneven anchor]

and? It preforms like a rifle? High bsa?

[uneven anchor]

based

[lean frost]

It's the only gun i can think off which beats AGR statistically atleast in someway

[austere igloo]

Smg performing like a rifle doesnt make it a rifle

[uneven anchor]

[austere igloo]

And neither vice versa

[uneven anchor]

wtf is ur point

[austere igloo]

[stray rapids]

Nah the agr isn't bad

Based on numbers it should be meta

Lucky it isn't easy to use

[uneven anchor]

I can dodge bullets real time with that kind of strafe

[austere igloo]

Type 25 being built like an smg doesnt make it an smg

Agr being built like a rifle doesnt make it a rifle

How difficult is it to understand?

[uneven anchor]

thats not my point?

im telling the agr is top teir

[austere igloo]

It is…?

[jade rover]

Type 25 can do 4 m/s ADS movement speed

[uneven anchor]

but its not what we were arguing about in the first place??

[austere igloo]

Ur literally saying the agr is a rife by telling us to provide an ar with a bttr strafe speed

[jade rover]

Not 4.5 but still

[stray rapids]

Lemme remake his arguenent

[austere igloo]

Then why is no one but u using it?

[stray rapids]

Is there an smg with better range

[austere igloo]

Dont bother

[uneven anchor]

yeah im telling you all the ARs are mid in comparison

[jade rover]

It’s top tier if you move like you’re slithering

I’ve watched him play, movement is incredible

[austere igloo]

[uneven anchor]

agr snake gameplay

[stray rapids]

Rly

[austere igloo]

I dont hv time to watch randoms play

[jade rover]

Insane yeah

[stray rapids]

I know catgang has dang good aim

[uneven anchor]

yeah im pretty decent…

[lean frost]

I'm waiting to tell them Agr's 5 stk is up there with top ARs

[jade rover]

Like when I say it’s as if he’s slithering

It really is

[uneven anchor]

LITERALLY

[lean frost]

But I don't know when i should do it

[uneven anchor]

krig m16 hvk slackin in comparison

[jade rover]

The movement is unparalleled

[stray rapids]

Wonder if it's up to garenian standards

[jade rover]

Not just like slide length, when he runs across the map, he slithers - it’s all loads of well controlled fast slides

[uneven anchor]

gasin me up

[jade rover]

Not just you also the guns movement

But your mvmt is good

[uneven anchor]

true i wouldnt move like that without agr

[jade rover]

You’re not made for SnD tho definitely hurt our team rather than helped it

Even if I played bad then

Too eager to slither 😂

[uneven anchor]

imagine i was aim peaking with m16

[austere igloo]

U should be in garena

What r u doing in global?

Come here, join us garenians

[jade rover]

Ik you were our MVP

[lean frost]

I wanna try pharo
Any good builds y'all recomend?
Usin this currently

[austere igloo]

Teach the garenians the way of the agr

The way of the catgang

[uneven anchor]

i would if i could

[austere igloo]

do it

[lean frost]

It's got gyro to make every other smg invalid

[uneven anchor]

smackn the pro leagues

[jade rover]

Oh I love it, i run this

[austere igloo]

[uneven anchor]

stun gun?? i mean based

[undone sandal]

stun for light short barrel

[lean frost]

It's called gyro*
it's too hard to correct it so I'm just gonna write a different message

[jade rover]

@stray rapids I’ll screen record while spectating him next time he plays it’s something else

[austere igloo]

Meanwhile this gun is now a relic

[lean frost]

I still use it

[uneven anchor]

recording my gameplay?

[jade rover]

Stun is good

[stray rapids]

Aight

[jade rover]

On its own it’s seemingly pointless

Pharo can one burst at that range

[undone sandal]

same functionality as quick melee, but worse

[jade rover]

No

[lean frost]

I wanna try the stungun doe
I'll play around about with it i suppose 👍

[jade rover]

If there’s two guys

[undone sandal]

no thank you

[jade rover]

It’s a world of difference

[undone sandal]

stun gun useless

[jade rover]

Disagree

[uneven anchor]

wait what explain

[jade rover]

It’s much faster than quick melee and more range

[stray rapids]

I would like to claim credit for hyping the agr

[jade rover]

One v One it’s useless

[undone sandal]

idc what you use
stun gun is objectively shit

[austere igloo]

[lean frost]

Waiting for people to trash this swordfish build..
1...2...3

[uneven anchor]

thank you

[jade rover]

But if there’s ever more than one you stun one person and it’s virtually immediate and you then virtually immediately shoot the other

[lean frost]

Same

[undone sandal]

same range you can burst enemy

[uneven anchor]

[undone sandal]

idk why you putting that into luck and waiting for quick melee to pop up

[austere igloo]

Rds on swordfish based

[stray rapids]

These people are merely my successors

[jade rover]

Pharo will have the fastest TTK in the game to kill two people not in the same line of sight. Not a debate either @undone sandal

[lean frost]

I hope to see
"Reduced AGR 556 horizontal recoil" in the patch notes someday

[uneven anchor]

NO

[austere igloo]

Lmao

[lean frost]

Yes
Let us normies enjoy it too

[austere igloo]

Fr tho

[undone sandal]

mono to tac supp

[uneven anchor]

if they reduce horizontal recoil they WILL nerf it

[lean frost]

I mean
Ur right tho..

[stray rapids]

Make it balanced? Hell yeah

[uneven anchor]

SHHH

[stray rapids]

This gun rn feels goofy and out of place

[uneven anchor]

its balanced guyss it has baad recoil guys i swearrr

[stray rapids]

Doesn't feel like it belong here

[jade rover]

I tried it and the recoil was strange

[stray rapids]

It shakes way too much

[uneven anchor]

ahaha right?? Wow its balanced

[stray rapids]

Also has way too much range with its strafe

[jade rover]

You’re very hyper rn lol

[austere igloo]

Another relic

[uneven anchor]

its super balanced, pls no nerf

[stray rapids]

Dead guns

[austere igloo]

secretly asks dev to shadow nerf agr

[austere igloo]

Its not dead to me

I still use it

[uneven anchor]

NOO

[jade rover]

@uneven anchor

[undone sandal]

like i said, idc what you use
im not putting two kills up to luck and waiting for quick melee to pop up so i can kill two enemies

[lean frost]

secretly asks Dev's to Nerf famas and pdw57

[undone sandal]

same range you can burst them

[jade rover]

Well I can make a realistic scenario

[uneven anchor]

we smacked fr

[jade rover]

Zigzag in Tunisia

[austere igloo]

As if they werent already nerfed

[jade rover]

Two guys coming up

[undone sandal]

doesn't matter
still overall useless attachment

[austere igloo]

Agreed on this one

[jade rover]

Pharo will get one immediately - no melee animation and much further range - then normal bullets for the other

[lean frost]

Nerf em more
Make pdw essentially a l-car and famas essentially a l-car but with slightly more range

[stray rapids]

Famas so dog it doesn't need a nerf to be bad

[jade rover]

So do I but that’s only if it’s one v one

[undone sandal]

im not wasting one attachment slot for a niche functionality

[jade rover]

It’s not niche if you rush like a maniac

[austere igloo]

Might as well remove those guns from existence

[undone sandal]

would rather put that slot into mobility

[lean frost]

Nerf em so much ur primary slot becomes the secondary when using them

[austere igloo]

Then how come I can dominate ppl w it?

Oh wait

[jade rover]

Just restock plus stim for mobility

[uneven anchor]

stun gun debate

[austere igloo]

Im just bttr ig

[lean frost]

Actually
Yes
Remove them 👍

[austere igloo]

[jade rover]

I don’t think it’s some amazing thing

But it has a valid niche

[uneven anchor]

i heckn love waiting 20 seconds for a stim

[jade rover]

Time it properly

[uneven anchor]

giga cope perk

[jade rover]

I like it but okay let’s say tactician

[austere igloo]

I rmbr facing a famas mastered guy in ranked lel

[undone sandal]

id rather not use taser
only useful in very specific scenarios

[austere igloo]

He had diamond too

[undone sandal]

and relying on luck

[austere igloo]

[jade rover]

Often in SnD there’s two people together. People in high lobbies rarely wander alone

[rich arch]

can i get a good FR build

[jade rover]

Pharo with stun is the best short range gun to kill two people

So it has a niche

[rich arch]

FR .556

[austere igloo]

Above

[rich arch]

IM STILL STUCK GETTING LONG SHOTS FOR LOCUS THERE IS still 72 long shots BRUH

[austere igloo]

Look above

[uneven anchor]

(i didnt even bother getting stun gun attachment pls dont tell me its good actually)

[austere igloo]

@rich arch

[jade rover]

It’s not meta at all

[austere igloo]

Its not

[rich arch]

the dlq magazine thing?

[uneven anchor]

phew thank goodness

[austere igloo]

No pharo

[rich arch]

ok bcuz if it dlq its useless

[jade rover]

But if you want to rush like crazy and know where to rush and listen for footsteps and have team callouts for where there’s gonna be two guys together in SnD

Which is quite common if you have a good team

[jade rover]

Pharo with stun then works

[austere igloo]

as if ppl would use pharo in snd

[rich arch]

Never seen or heard

[jade rover]

Depends on the map

[austere igloo]

[storm lance]

This thing looks awful

[austere igloo]

Nobodys gonna use pharo in tunisia cmon

[jade rover]

It gives a quick melee button but it has further range and essentially no melee animation at alll (instant)

[austere igloo]

I dont even use that gun for that matter

[rich arch]

anybody have map that gives easy long shots except for crossfire

[jade rover]

I actually have a lot of success in Tunisia specifically so funny you say that

[storm lance]

Good you don't

[jade rover]

Because it has a lot of like short alleyways

[austere igloo]

Oh i know but im not gonna wait for a quick melee button to pop out when I can just pop them off with bullets

[austere igloo]

[jade rover]

I use air triggers

[storm lance]

I don't know any unfortunately

[jade rover]

So my quick melee button is where my shoot button is

Maybe that explains it

[austere igloo]

Not once have I seen a pharo user in ranked snd

Let alone w the stun attachment

At most only in “shipment grinds”

[jade rover]

Shoot and melee buttons both here

Air triggers I’m guessing you know what they are

[austere igloo]

Garenians dont use pharo much let alone the stun attachment

[austere igloo]

Wow ur ads button is also on the top left

[jade rover]

Yeah air triggers work that way

Trigger presses down on the button for you

I’m used to them now they help a tonne

[uneven anchor]

when you wanna play 4 finger but cant

[jade rover]

So when you have two guys up on zigzag on Tunisia or anything similar

[jade rover]

Basically

[uneven anchor]

loll

[rich arch]

BRUH :< ok then

[jade rover]

The quick melee button comes up and right trigger uses that to instakill . It has a cool down so now the trigger is immediately for bullets

[uneven anchor]

@lean frost is this good bil?

[storm lance]

I wish I can help but yk

[rich arch]

welp

thats sad bcuz i have 72 MORE LONG SHOTS

[jade rover]

🤮

[uneven anchor]

Could wait for ground war mode. Ez long shot giga map

[jade rover]

Swordfish should be AR version of KSP not like a marksman rifle

[uneven anchor]

I DUNNO

[jade rover]

ADS stack

[uneven anchor]

I thought it was good bill bc it didnt decrease movement speed which is all i care about

ads stack oge

[jade rover]

Nah just make it assault rifle KSP that sorta thing

Not a burst marksman rifle

Fastest TTK including ADS time build 👌

[uneven anchor]

?

[lean frost]

Tac supp
Light stock
Rubberized
Light barrel
Owc tac
The normal swordfish build

[uneven anchor]

rubberized?

[lean frost]

yus

Helps with V.recoil

[uneven anchor]

recoil mfs

[rich arch]

can i get a m4 build for aggrassive playstyle?

[lean frost]

This time u can't argue against it
On bursts there's no controlling that

[uneven anchor]

[lean frost]

The one that I use

[uneven anchor]

thas the build i just built

[jade rover]

Nice

[lean frost]

[jade rover]

40 mag size is plenty too, that’s 10 bursts

[uneven anchor]

red dot.
Bet you hate em2 irons