codm-gunsmith-help

[uneven anchor]

why do u need marksman

[unreal gale]

You're not hitting upper body only and even if you do, well that's great

[uneven anchor]

If you need range run kilo or krig

[stray rapids]

Bsa

[whole moss]

is bk57 good in br?

[unreal gale]

They give the same range

[jade rover]

AK117 no recoil?

[faint ingot]

it has little recoil, it's pretty controllable

[stray rapids]

Mostly pull down

[uneven anchor]

Marksman CBR skill issue imo

[faint ingot]

even at range (30+) it's not bad to keep on target

[unreal gale]

Marksman is just more stability for a little less strafe

Ak117 has random recoil

[uneven anchor]

If u need bsa just copy past my kilo

[unreal gale]

But also like no recoil

[jade rover]

*horizontal

[unreal gale]

No. It has random

[jade rover]

How can it be random

[unreal gale]

One of the only guns in the game

[jade rover]

Is that legit

[unreal gale]

There is no fixed pattern

[jade rover]

I don’t believe that tbh

[stray rapids]

Yea

[jade rover]

How

That’s dumb if so

[stray rapids]

See the stat comparison page

[uneven anchor]

interesting

[unreal gale]

I used to main 117

But anyway, the meta build has like no recoil so you're good

[stray rapids]

🤝

[unreal gale]

Coming from the guy who puts a fa grip on the krig to control recoil

[stray rapids]

Krig has less recoil tbh

[unreal gale]

Idk feels more to me

[stray rapids]

I feel with 117 i pull down quite vigorously

[unreal gale]

Or maybe 117 just feels like it has no recoil to me

[faint ingot]

What exactly is the meta for 117?

[unreal gale]

What's your build?

[stray rapids]

117 is stable as Heck tho

No shake at all

[stray rapids]

Mono
Ext light
Mag
Tac laser
Nostok

[unreal gale]

Oh yeah that's meta build

[stray rapids]

People say 117 recoil can't be used past 50m,with recoil stack

In br anyways

I haven't tried it

[unreal gale]

Br has no recoil

[jade rover]

I want the red dot sight; I need tac laser extended mags and no stock, so I need marksman for BSA no?

[unreal gale]

Every gun has no recoil in br lol

[jade rover]

Or is mono ok

[stray rapids]

Eh

[unreal gale]

Mono decreases bsa

[faint ingot]

what is bsa again?

[stray rapids]

I feel the climb rate is a little on the high side

[unreal gale]

Basically accuracy

[faint ingot]

we really need like a list of all the translations/abbreviations

[jade rover]

I know

But point is I’d rather run RDS over gran

So wondering if I can get away with mono

I don’t think so

[unreal gale]

Use extended light barrel

[uneven anchor]

Dont 117 in BR

[unreal gale]

And mono for range

[uneven anchor]

theres better options

[unreal gale]

Use the M4

Or amax

[uneven anchor]

M4

[jade rover]

I have M4 sickle

[unreal gale]

Nothing beats broken aim assist

[uneven anchor]

BR m4 is for lower ttk no recoil control havn mfs

[jade rover]

Honestly for -17% ADS time how is this not really really good

It’s like ranger foregrip plus loads of range

[unreal gale]

It doesn't though

[uneven anchor]

Ranger foregrip

[jade rover]

That’s so much stats for the penalty is all

[stray rapids]

Strafe is nooked

[uneven anchor]

Imo 117 is closer range combat

[jade rover]

Yeah

[faint ingot]

ya, that's a HUGE hit to strafe

[unreal gale]

Also operator grip > Ranger grip for most guns

[jade rover]

My strafe is 2.68m/s but I don’t run it like that

[jade rover]

I agree

[uneven anchor]

117 could do w/o marksman, trust me coming as a marksman ranger fg simp

[jade rover]

I just run it to win gunfights

Like if you’re in an alleyway

[stray rapids]

1 exception, br

[uneven anchor]

BR 117

[unreal gale]

Br has no recoil

[jade rover]

Strafe doesn’t matter here basically

[unreal gale]

X2

[stray rapids]

Ranger proves to be pretty useful on long range guns

[uneven anchor]

Uh oh ur gonna piss of ppl with that one

[stray rapids]

I use it on ny br hvk

[unreal gale]

You need strafe to move around the map

[jade rover]

Well it’s a narrow space ofc strafe doesn’t matter. Strafe is for like the centre room in Summit

[uneven anchor]

dont talk sht about strafe on #codm-gunsmith-builds worst mistake of my life

[unreal gale]

If you run super low strafe builds you might as well use holger or chopper

[jade rover]

How is strafe important in an alleyway

It just isn’t

In an open space it is

[uneven anchor]

but it is

[unreal gale]

[jade rover]

In an alleyway? Why?

[uneven anchor]

you need to strafe to miss enemy shots

[jade rover]

How awful do they have to be to miss in an alleyway

[unreal gale]

1. You shouldn't ever be standing in the open

2. Alley ways you can slide to cover

3. As long as there is any space, strafing is a lot better than not strafing

[timber idol]

man i just got destroyed in a ranked match guys , i was casual just using qq9 in a 1v5 i tried to clutch up bye killing a team of snipers , then the last sniper that was left sniped me from behind -_-

[uneven anchor]

truu

[unreal gale]

4. Faster strafing is good for moving around the map

[jade rover]

Let’s say on firing range, behind that caravan thing where the targets are

[uneven anchor]

if you need to move quietly preferably just walk

[timber idol]

im so pissed rn

[unreal gale]

Then you headglitch

• strafe behind the headglitch

[jade rover]

I hate head glitchers with a passion lol, okay but forgetting that

I just mean the space

There must be another example

[unreal gale]

What, you mean tunnel?

Or a long?

[jade rover]

Also sliding isnt affected by strafing

[unreal gale]

It literally is

[jade rover]

I just mean something where it’s relatively narrow

[jade rover]

It is?

[unreal gale]

Yes

[uneven anchor]

ok now im interested

[jade rover]

I didn’t know whoops

Why would ADS movement speed affect sliding

That’s stupid but i believe you

[unreal gale]

Skulker affects sliding

[uneven anchor]

WHAT

[jade rover]

No but I mean the ADS movement speed penalty

[uneven anchor]

holy sht time to run skulker

[jade rover]

Why would that affect sliding

[uneven anchor]

On everything

[unreal gale]

Run skulker on fast guns

And light weight on slow guns

[jade rover]

@unreal gale can I just check is this what you mean

[unreal gale]

Yes

[jade rover]

Losing ADS movement speed affects sliding? Wth

[uneven anchor]

maybe if you aim while sliding?

[jade rover]

But you’re not aiming down sight I don’t get it

[unreal gale]

I'm not 100% sure, but mostly sure

[uneven anchor]

I am

[unreal gale]

I know skulker definitely helps with sliding

[jade rover]

Just a normal slide you aren’t

Is what I mean

[uneven anchor]

so might make sense

[jade rover]

I play with thumbs so harder to slide, aim and shoot

[unreal gale]

Hmm. I do slide cancel. Maybe that was why

[uneven anchor]

Skill issue ngl

[unreal gale]

Would strongly recommend you switch to four finger claw

[uneven anchor]

4 finger enjoyers

[faint ingot]

4 finger is nice, I like it

[unreal gale]

It's quite an easy switch honestly and probably the most popular and most comfortable hud

[uneven anchor]

should i run skulker on my sniper

skulker slide snipe?

[unreal gale]

@ruby iris does ads movement hell with sliding?

[unreal gale]

Yeah no xD

[jade rover]

It’s so uncomfortable I can’t

[unreal gale]

Snipers are slow, so run light weight

[uneven anchor]

Dreams shattered

[jade rover]

I can get legendary MP so idm if I’m not as good from using thumbs.

[uneven anchor]

But sliding is important on sniper ngl

[faint ingot]

You need to MASSIVELY modify controls for it

[unreal gale]

Actually I guess you're supposed to walk with snipers

[jade rover]

I just can’t use the phone without gripping it

[unreal gale]

So you could use skulker

[uneven anchor]

LES GO

[jade rover]

Could you explain? Would be very useful to know

[uneven anchor]

[faint ingot]

lemme get a picture of my controls, and you'll see

[jade rover]

Do you use thumbs too?

[uneven anchor]

heres my hud

[faint ingot]

yup, thumbs and pointers

[jade rover]

Jesus

[uneven anchor]

I use gyro tho

[unreal gale]

Move your shoot to your left index

[uneven anchor]

why

[unreal gale]

The whole point of 4 finger is to isolate aiming from shooting

[jade rover]

That seems four fingers no? Or by pointers do you mean air triggers

[uneven anchor]

But i aim with gyro

[jade rover]

I should get air triggers

[unreal gale]

You don't aim only with gyro

[uneven anchor]

mostly yeah

[faint ingot]

I said 4 fingers, I use my pointers on the top of screen

[jade rover]

Oh right

[unreal gale]

Nah, I guess it fixes hand position but you want to use screen

[jade rover]

I only use my thumbs anyway

No other fingers

[uneven anchor]

giro giro giro giro

[unreal gale]

Would recommend you give all your movement buttons to your right index

[jade rover]

Sometimes a third finger but very occasionally

[faint ingot]

there's higher efficiency in using in 4 fingers

[jade rover]

Ik

[faint ingot]

oh?
Why?

[unreal gale]

The right thumb should only be for aiming

[jade rover]

I just can’t do it

[uneven anchor]

rip ur codm career i guess

[unreal gale]

That way you can slide cancel, do movement in gunfights, run away better etc.

[faint ingot]

I see how it could be nice, but I have issues with trying to reach my finger anywhere else heh, fingers aren't quite flexible enough

[uneven anchor]

skill issue fingers

[faint ingot]

well, there's a few spots I could try to fit it, I'll try

[unreal gale]

You actually are using only gyro

[unreal gale]

Put them in a kinda triangle pattern

[uneven anchor]

Yep

[unreal gale]

A flat triangle

[faint ingot]

ooh, I didn't think of that

[unreal gale]

Slide left, aim middle, jump right

[uneven anchor]

maybe thats why my gunsmiths are weird

gyro only

[jade rover]

Controller grip FTW

[unreal gale]

Gyro only isn't very good btw

[faint ingot]

I'll probably swap jump/slide on that, I like moving my finger "out" to jump

[unreal gale]

You want to use gyro for minor adjustments

[rich arch]

Kn-44 build pls

[jade rover]

Have to delete or ill get warned for advertising products lol

[uneven anchor]

well im almost BR top 5k so

[unreal gale]

Yeah that's totally up to you

[jade rover]

But those air triggers look busted

[faint ingot]

they are also banned in the official tournaments lol

[unreal gale]

They look like they're really bad to me lol

[jade rover]

Cropped the brand name out mods

Why

That for the SKS seems great

[unreal gale]

Tapping is easier

[uneven anchor]

Hax holy

[jade rover]

Idk about that

[unreal gale]

Also I use two shoot buttons on my left index

So it's definitely better to tap for me

[uneven anchor]

will i get discord top 5k badge if i hit top 5k?

[jade rover]

Maybe for your layout but just comparing tapping with your fingers to pressing a trigger that autotaps fast the triggers have to be better

[unreal gale]

In case you were wondering, one of them is for slide canceling

[unreal gale]

If you hit it, you can message modmail

[uneven anchor]

cuz like its such a long grind

[faint ingot]

Note, this isn’t really gunsmith talk anymore haha

[unreal gale]

You need to send the a video

Then they'll give it to you

[uneven anchor]

bet holy

[unreal gale]

Bit it resets every season

I don't play anymore so my role is about to run out lol

[uneven anchor]

The role is timed? Bruh

[unreal gale]

Every season

[mellow harbor]

@ruby iris em2 and oden

idk but for some reason i really like slow firing weapons now

[uneven anchor]

Oden is entirely different builds for BR and MP

[uneven anchor]

For BR oden stack range, for MP oden stack BSA + duplex mag

[minor dragon]

oden has inf 3 shot range in br. I think you mean recoil stacking

[uneven anchor]

Rip oden damage

why recoil stack its controllable

mfs have 250-300 HP first range damage seriously makes a difference

[minor dragon]

range boosting is completely pointless

[mellow harbor]

anyone know what the range on the oden is with colosuss suppressor?

[uneven anchor]

50+ dmg is pointless? Ok bro

[minor dragon]

2 shot is very inconsistent. More often than not, you will get a 3 shot kill

[uneven anchor]

5 shot take down is pointless?

[dense tinsel]

Bro oden sucks

[uneven anchor]

Its still first range thats big dmg

[mellow harbor]

ok meta abuser

[uneven anchor]

ik im not a oden fan either but ttk is high in BR if you can land shots

[mellow harbor]

some of us want to have some fun

i refuse to abuse the krig

[dense tinsel]

When did i say i use meta? And what's the meta rn anyway

[minor dragon]

besides most gunfights in BR are 40 meters and beyond. Most of the time you will achieve 3 shot kill. 2 shot is too inconsistent so dont rely on it

[dense tinsel]

I don't even use krig

[uneven anchor]

Introducing: Range mod

Also i agree

[minor dragon]

you have to hit upper chest shots to achieve that 2 shot kill

[uneven anchor]

i prefer s36 in BR

but stacking range on oden is the move

[dense tinsel]

But doesn't oden have slow bullet speed

[minor dragon]

upper torso is blocked by arms so good luck achieving it

[uneven anchor]

it does but you want to use the oden close range

[dense tinsel]

Close range??!!

[minor dragon]

[uneven anchor]

thats why stacking BSA and recoil to snipe isnt the move

if you want to beam use something else

Like this

[dense tinsel]

S36 very underated

[uneven anchor]

True, its literally meta in BR

and no one uses it

hidden meta

[dense tinsel]

There is like almost no damage drop off right?

[uneven anchor]

0

[minor dragon]

recoil stack is the way to go on the oden

[uneven anchor]

Infinite range

[dense tinsel]

And that fire rate is insanely good with that damage

[uneven anchor]

Skill issue imo

[dense tinsel]

It only lacks ads

[minor dragon]

clown issue for you

[dense tinsel]

Luckily we have mods

[uneven anchor]

Introducing ADS mod

[minor dragon]

that 2 stk is far too unreliable and inconsistent to rely on. I would just stack recoil and accuracy

[uneven anchor]

Xi if you wanna hit 36 on the battle field then be my guest

its not just about the 2sk

because it isnt just 2sk were playing BR dingo

[minor dragon]

that 36 is infinite on the oden. full body

i am saying range boosting is completely pointless on the oden

[dense tinsel]

Isn't oden getting a buff next season?

[uneven anchor]

You can 43 max first range and +60 2nd range how is range stack not the move???

With range mod

[jade rover]

Upper arm multiplier is buffed, aim shake reduced supposedly and faster bullet speed. Might be more

[dense tinsel]

No way they buffing its bullet speed

[jade rover]

I’m p sure

[uneven anchor]

That damage is dog piss with that firerate

[dense tinsel]

That's good be insanely good

[minor dragon]

problem is, that damage is too inconsistent

[uneven anchor]

oml

[minor dragon]

you have to hit all upper torso

[uneven anchor]

im talking range not dmg sorry

43 first range with range mod +60 2nd range

Thats alot of meters im just saying

social distancing

Stack range on oden BR end of story

[minor dragon]

my guy, in order to even get that damage, you have to hit all upper torso shots. if you land even one shot outside of that, then you're gonna get a 3 shot kill. You're better off not bothering about getting that 2 shot kill

[uneven anchor]

It does matter broooo

first range damage not upper torso is still insane

[minor dragon]

its pointless

[uneven anchor]

also ffs IT ISNT 2sk on torso

were talking about BR

U tryna run a blunderbuss oden hoolyy

[minor dragon]

i know thats what im saying.

[minor dragon]

it is on the head and upper torso

[dense tinsel]

Im confused how can the oden 2-3 tap in br

[minor dragon]

im talking about breaking armor

[dense tinsel]

Oh okay

[uneven anchor]

It cant unless 3 shots in head + gold mod

[minor dragon]

if you include base health then its a 6 shot kill

[uneven anchor]

Thats why u stack range

[dense tinsel]

Yea thats why oden isn't reliable

[storm lance]

What's happening here

[minor dragon]

no that 6 shot kill is infinite

[dense tinsel]

Miss 1 shot with that slow ahh fire rate and u getting beamed by a m4

[uneven anchor]

Infinite 36 ok bro

with 150ms firerate

yeah have fun

the M4 can do 20-22 with 80 suming ms firerate

You Will Lose To An M4 Final Range PLEASE understand

[dense tinsel]

Especially if they have gold mod

[minor dragon]

it doesn't matter what damage it is. as long as it is between 35 and 49 damage, it will have the same ttk

[dense tinsel]

M4 does like 50 to head right?

With gold mod

[uneven anchor]

36 final range damage is garbanzo compare to final range m4

and in the off chance you land a chesst or head shot you will out DPS m4 close range

[minor dragon]

m4 is infinite 5 shot kill. Oden is infinite 3 shot. You have to be more accurate with oden

oden is always gonna win IF you can hit your shots

[dense tinsel]

But that bsa is trash

And iron sight

[uneven anchor]

lower BV and firerate at THAT point u just run M4

Oden is not a long range rifle for BR

[minor dragon]

cap. oden has really clean irons

[uneven anchor]

in MP go stack BSA

not range sorry

[dense tinsel]

The mythic does but the default one nahh

[uneven anchor]

in BR stack Range

[minor dragon]

[dense tinsel]

How u supposed to track somebody from far with that trash iron sight

[minor dragon]

[uneven anchor]

Even if you land oden shots in BR at 36 dmg the m4 will out dps u

[dense tinsel]

Especially with this no fatigue slide jump movement

They Lowkey gotta change this boring meta in br

[minor dragon]

you will out dps a m4 user if you hit your shots which is unlikely but possible

[uneven anchor]

Its easy to miss oden shot

[minor dragon]

oden has the potential

[uneven anchor]

miniscule potential

[minor dragon]

[uneven anchor]

Short range rifle

[dense tinsel]

I feel like yall convos going no where

Infinite loop

[uneven anchor]

end of story

Ask rice

@ruby iris Oden - BR

[minor dragon]

regardless stacking range on oden makes no sense what so ever

in br or mp

[dense tinsel]

Amax is underrated

[uneven anchor]

-12 dmg i guess below chest

[minor dragon]

what?

[uneven anchor]

final range

compared to first

[minor dragon]

oden has full body 36 damage what are you on about?

[uneven anchor]

sigh

[minor dragon]

i am not getting what you are trying to say. Are you saying oden has negative damage in the final damage range?

[uneven anchor]

no that it loses 12 dmg

das alota damage

[minor dragon]

what are you exactly trying to say? im getting confused

[uneven anchor]

48 - 36

= 12

This means that the damage difference is 12

[minor dragon]

ohhhhh ok

i get it now

[uneven anchor]

So by discarding range

you will have significant damage difference in the final drop off range

[minor dragon]

48 damage is still a 3 shot kill

as well as 36 damage

[uneven anchor]

Introducing, Colossal supressor

[minor dragon]

so it doesn't matter what so ever

[uneven anchor]

lecture over

ok lets compare for 300 HP shall we?

9STK for 300

[minor dragon]

250 is the max but ok

[mellow harbor]

tf are yall still arguing about the oden in br 💀

[uneven anchor]

7STK for 250

[mellow harbor]

go outside bruv

[uneven anchor]

now if we compared first range damage

7STK for 300

6STK for 250

That is an entire 1 less Shot required got 250HP Combatants and 2 Shots for 300HP Combatants

@minor dragon PLS explain why stacking range doesnt matter??

Shave off literal entire ODEN rounds

with 150ms firerate

[minor dragon]

even with stacking, that first damage range is only gonna extend to 28 meters in BR which is literally nothing

in br

[uneven anchor]

If you stack all range attachments + sub mag and colossal sup and marksman and long shot perk

You will hit 32.8

[minor dragon]

most fights in br take place between 40 to 50 meters

[uneven anchor]

Plus 11 or So with Long range mod

[minor dragon]

🤣 subsonic mag in br? seriously?

[uneven anchor]

I said its a short range rifle didnt I

• you must take 2nd range into consideration

[minor dragon]

plus long shot perk only gives 10 damage range or 1.6 meters

[uneven anchor]

2nd range drop off affects nothing so might as well be 1st range

[uneven anchor]

yeah at lvl 1 common mod

[minor dragon]

im talking about the weapon perk not the mod

[uneven anchor]

oh sorry

still 10 percent

You will not like my krig build ig i have that perk

[minor dragon]

thats only 1.6 meters which is not noticeable

[uneven anchor]

• 2.5 as well

2nd range increase

[minor dragon]

again, hardly noticeable

[uneven anchor]

3.6 Meters is hardly noticable ok

[minor dragon]

again, range boosting is pointless

[fair blade]

Ranger 🧍

[uneven anchor]

We’ll never end this arguement

lets just agree that the Oden BR sucks

fk the oden all my homies hate the oden

[minor dragon]

how about we just agree to disagree?

[uneven anchor]

fine

guys go stack range on oden in BR

[mellow harbor]

yall goofy

[uneven anchor]

i mean cmon that gun has some recoil

[fair blade]

it

really doesn't

no longer pulls heavy to the side

[uneven anchor]

well its BR who cares if Ranger FG

[rich arch]

Everyone hates on the ranger fg like you cant get modifications in br to counteract the downsides

So going from level 150 to 200, some notable rewards.

[uneven anchor]

True, pop off king

Cant wait to put diamon on dark matter, surely there is still cool dark matter effects

[rich arch]

"Nooo! You MUST use a fast ads build in br! Its literally impossible to use another build!"

[fair blade]

Mfw recoil improvements from ranger ain't needed

[uneven anchor]

Ikr ranger fg is free BSA just use ads mod to counteract

[rich arch]

The slight horizontal recoil is nice, plus its best when going for longshots

[rich arch]

Uhhh nah.

Unless being sarcastic. 🤔

[uneven anchor]

I was

[rich arch]

😂😂 it hit me afterwards

[uneven anchor]

Trueee

Ranger FG + Marksman enjoyer

[rich arch]

Dark matter should have been a completionist camo. Whether it be tournament camo or grindable camo.

Imo

[uneven anchor]

honestly animated camos should still animate with diamond

[rich arch]

Dark matter single-handedly the best blueprint camo ever released

[uneven anchor]

the gooey dark matter but make it gooey diamond

[rich arch]

Gooey diamond? Like the diamond qq9 melting point? 🤔

[uneven anchor]

why not

diamond leggy qq9 oozes gold on the sight

[rich arch]

It does.

[uneven anchor]

[storm lance]

Aww man that's kinda unfair

[uneven anchor]

There ya go do that but on dark matter

[minor dragon]

[storm lance]

I play with mp5 and everyone turns into the god mode after i grind it

[rich arch]

Nice eh?

[jade rover]

@uneven anchor gg, i had sweaty fingers too but guess that AK build is good

[uneven anchor]

what happened

[analog moss]

How?

[jade rover]

Wait

[storm lance]

Yea that's cool wish you get another one

[jade rover]

I thought I played you

[uneven anchor]

what no

[minor dragon]

I play with the MP7. Whats your take on the MP7?

[jade rover]

Oh that’s someone else

Nvm

[storm lance]

And bottom frag i wanna ask you about the type 25

[jade rover]

Did you even add me 😡

[rich arch]

They are adding 50 levels, so everyone will be going from 150 to 200 and those are some of the rewards. Notable blueprints at least

[storm lance]

It's pretty good but for me the fire rate is kinda not matching with the ext mag

[minor dragon]

Hmm. Did you verify this issue?

[storm lance]

The enhanced bolt actually is better but still

The weapon overall is good for players who reload every kill i reload after 3 kills in exact i play like that

[uneven anchor]

My ign is ¤Darin @jade rover

[storm lance]

So for me the weapon was kinda not the way i experienced it in mw

[uneven anchor]

I didnt add but i could

MP7 BSA Stack

good gun

[storm lance]

Ohh yea didn't mention the hipfire with that gun

You can hipfire someone over all shipment i think 10m without a problem

[uneven anchor]

interesting

[storm lance]

A crazy man like me would test anything so i know

[uneven anchor]

Hipfire gamers are built diff

[storm lance]

Hipfiring with snipers is something ppl actually hated me fir

What's better than not needing to aim and instead pulling that trigger for no reason

[uneven anchor]

Bet you run gungho

[storm lance]

Yea how did you know

[uneven anchor]

Literally the only perk that makes hipfire goated

that and reload while run

[rich arch]

Gung ho is cracked

However i mostly run quick fix or ghost

[uneven anchor]

all great perks tbf

If only there was a perk to give one of extra

like a blue perk 3 that turns perk 1 into green

like in BO2 i think, or maybe. I dont remember

[rich arch]

Or Specialist perks instead of scorestreaks

Id switch out scorestreaks in an instant

[uneven anchor]

ooo, could be nice i hate scorestreaks

[rich arch]

Same ong

[uneven anchor]

Takes years to deploy fr

yeah let me sit on chopper gun or waste minutes to drop cluster + uavs

wow so much fun

[rich arch]

Recon, hard wired, quick fix, gung ho, amd ghost all at the same time

Thatd go hard

Rn my scorestreaks are just cheap ones, uav, counter uav, hunter killer and sam turrets

Theyre nice, but id prefer specialist perks

[tired helm]

[uneven anchor]

ominous doge smile..

[faint ingot]

@raw wagon

[unreal gale]

my hud looks something like this

I play on ipad though

I move my right index buttons around quite a lot

still haven't found a super comfortable configuration yet

[viscid belfry]

3 flex on 1 image

[unreal gale]

?

[viscid belfry]

nuke legendary skin and mythic holger

[faint ingot]

yup

[unreal gale]

oh lol

[viscid belfry]

its mace?

[unreal gale]

that was a nuke in a top 5k lobby too xD

[unreal gale]

mhm

[viscid belfry]

wow nice

[unreal gale]

I feel like mace holger is nice combo

[viscid belfry]

can i add u?

[unreal gale]

I don't play anymore

[viscid belfry]

gift me a bp card then

[fiery grove]

Em2 build, kicks ass with the foregrip since it basically has at least -7 recoil

[unreal gale]

don't have the game downloaded

[viscid belfry]

u have 880 cp?

[unreal gale]

I do

[viscid belfry]

then dowload it rq pls

[raw wagon]

Appreciate you bro

[viscid belfry]

i need that bp

[unreal gale]

no. I'm not downloading it just to give you a bp xD

just buy one

[viscid belfry]

[fiery grove]

You can’t even gift cod points

[unreal gale]

you can gift bps though

[viscid belfry]

u cant give cp but u can gift items that cost cp

[faint ingot]

it's a bit of a mess, but it is what I use

[viscid belfry]

how u can play with that

[unreal gale]

hp at the top interesting

[faint ingot]

easier for me to glance and see it

and it's not covering anywhere else up

[unreal gale]

I think the default arrangement is the best looking

so I just kept it all the way

[viscid belfry]

ye

[faint ingot]

it's nice, but I wanted a bit more compact, and wanted score at bottom instead

[unreal gale]

oh I did move my streaks higher up to click them easier at some point

oh yeah and do this

[faint ingot]

I should probably swap streaks and score at some point, would be easier to hit and not require stopping moving

[faint ingot]

that's honestly smart, I like it

[unreal gale]

gives you a fat crosshair at all times

literally solves the need for a red dot for many guns

[stuck depot]

Does get in the way sometimes

[unreal gale]

I don't really think so

[faint ingot]

it could, but I think it's worth it

[unreal gale]

you could always reduce opacity if you think it does

I keep mine at max opacity because I think it'a pure positive

[dense tinsel]

Lmao

[analog moss]

Yall should try this out
It got very controllable recoil and te BAS is pretty good

[dark iron]

any lapa builds?

[analog moss]

Hmmm

I dont know if its any good tho

You can try this

[unreal gale]

I also only use krig :D

[jade rover]

Snipers in this game are too strong

[pale anvil]

They buffed them

And i love it

[unreal gale]

I think they're super weak

ever since the sniper nerf from outlaw meta

[pale anvil]

Nah after this new update the dlq got better

[unreal gale]

but yeah this would be like a typical top 5k game these days

[slim stone]

My first and second are dlq and locus followed by gks i think

[unreal gale]

around 2-3 kd

[faint ingot]

my kd is 3.8 rn I think?

[slim stone]

Mine is very low… at 1.95

[unreal gale]

oh here are some pictures from chopper gunner cycle days

[faint ingot]

damn

[pale anvil]

I can’t send pics

[faint ingot]

#959166887265173565

then #╭╴roles-info

[pale anvil]

I can’t go there for some reason 😂

[faint ingot]

do the first channel before

[unreal gale]

I haven't gotten a ban for quite some time

but I have a friend who gets banned regularly too

[unreal gale]

but unlike me, his performance is literally crazy

[pale anvil]

The thing is I play with a friend and he’s also a good sniper but he never gets banned

[unreal gale]

he dropped 70 kills against a t1 team on 100ms in a scrim

[faint ingot]

holy

how is he human?

[unreal gale]

lol no clue

but I would say he is easily top 3 NA

[faint ingot]

top 3 world probably heh

[unreal gale]

wouldn't be surprised if he was

[faint ingot]

with that kind of performance?

[broken rapids]

@jagged flint they cooking u in #codm-gunsmith-builds my guy

[unreal gale]

oh yeah and when he plays snd it's ridiculous

[pale anvil]

Hows his name?

[unreal gale]

?

M6ndo

[pale anvil]

8 bans in 3 weeks this is ridiculous and fkd up

[rich arch]

Is your iPad jailbroken?

[timber idol]

bro stop we have seen

[pale anvil]

No

[timber idol]

reinstall bruh

[pale anvil]

As i said i dont use jailbreaker no vpn ko controller gameloop or anything

[timber idol]

your obviously disconnected to the server

just reinstall

brihh

[analog moss]

Wait dont you got a clan?

[pale anvil]

Already tried 2 times

[analog moss]

Is it called codm goats?

[timber idol]

bruh

play on phone

[analog moss]

So close

[pale anvil]

Nah maaan why should i nerf myself just for not getting banned

[timber idol]

your first diamond?

[analog moss]

No

My first diamond was on prize fighters

[timber idol]

haha i also went through that in the krig

[analog moss]

This is like my 7th gold

[faint ingot]

My first gold is 117, gonna try to get it to Diamond lol

[analog moss]

Headshots sucks

[timber idol]

just go for headgitcheS

its easy

hard point

[analog moss]

My first good was the GKS

[faint ingot]

I'll use the 117 for comp, but I'm going to attempt to get AR Platinum in casual

[timber idol]

mine is the locust

then butterfly knife

and a bunch of others later

[timber idol]

bro , i dont even understand that is so random 🤣

[timber idol]

noice

i feel bad for the 224 ppl that died to this

🤣

[faint ingot]

damn, kife camos are gonna be ROUGH

[timber idol]

nah

they easy

hard point shipment

i legit got gold camo on butterfly knife in two hardpoint games 😂 @faint ingot

[faint ingot]

oh damn, that's nuts

[timber idol]

yh

[real wren]

Did they remove the auto gunsmith channel

[timber idol]

91 kills each games

😂

[faint ingot]

lol, that's nuts

[unreal gale]

no, that's probably someone else

I basically only solo q rank

I don't do much else apart from that

[uneven anchor]

Yep

[real wren]

Rip

[timber idol]

yup

[analog moss]

They got your username tho

With a pfp of sunnyD

[rich arch]

@pale anvil

You haven't been banned

The game has been removed from the applestore

[timber idol]

@unreal gale r u on leaderboard with any weapon?

[rich arch]

I just did a quick search

[pale anvil]

Whaaat?

[rich arch]

Might have something to do with that

[pale anvil]

What does that mean

[rich arch]

The game isn't on apple store anymore

[pale anvil]

Is it not more available on apple

[rich arch]

Like fortnite

[timber idol]

wtf mine still there

[rich arch]

Money disputes probably

You have the game files but it's not on the applestore

[pale anvil]

But why am i able to play

[rich arch]

But it has been removed that's what they announced

[pale anvil]

I dorn get isntantly banned but after a few games

[faint ingot]

it isn't off the store
It's a bug

[rich arch]

You have the game files that's why it's there

Don't uninstall it

[timber idol]

@rich arch #

mine still there

[timber idol]

okay

[faint ingot]

3 hours ago, it was fixed

[timber idol]

lol

[rich arch]

Alright that good

[timber idol]

off

that was bad

thank goodness

[faint ingot]

;)

[rich arch]

The issue persists for some version they said on Reddit so don't reinstall anyway

[timber idol]

due to different time zones some ppl will receive that later

right

[faint ingot]

no idea

it should be instant

[rich arch]

Some iOS versions have the issue still, not related to timezones

[timber idol]

just wait

i will not delete still

lol

i hope the server is still up and running

coz jokesta is streaming rn as we speak

and he is ios

[faint ingot]

it's still running, I'm playing rn

on ios

[timber idol]

oh

good

[faint ingot]

ya lol

[undone sandal]

no
always round up to the next frame

[jade rover]

That doesn’t seem to be the case

It makes sense that it always should

Like a slideshow

But I explained why later on

^

[faint ingot]

ah, it doesn't use the bus stop method, sad

[undone sandal]

found the pdf file
its either you round down or round up

depends on the situation

[jade rover]

That PDF file is bad maths

I can do the exact maths if you like

You need a normal distribution

And it also doesn’t take into account this universal clock point

It can’t be everyone running around with their own clocks, it must all be relative to the server

[undone sandal]

obv

thats gonna fluctuate

[jade rover]

It’s not so obvious but yeah

There’s no particular reason why it should favour or disfavour you

But what it does mean is you can round down

[undone sandal]

unless your ping is higher compared to others

[jade rover]

If you’re 302ms you can round down because of it

And will round down most of the time

[undone sandal]

there's two situations
its either it rounds down or it rounds up

[jade rover]

So that can inform gunsmithing

[uneven anchor]

intense maf debate

[jade rover]

It’s not a debate I think we agree

[uneven anchor]

oh

[undone sandal]

but tbh most players don't really care about how frame rounding works

just want "is this fast ads?" ill take it"

[uneven anchor]

I mean why would you? Its just a frame

[jade rover]

The closer ADS time is to an interval of 16.666666ms, the more likely it is that it will have so many frames. It can round down because of the universal clock thing. If it’s just taking you in isolation like you said it has to round up.

Yeah

[uneven anchor]

theory crafting how to get one less frame

[jade rover]

Lol

[undone sandal]

same argument can be said for people who use lasers on snipers

but they still use it bc its "faster"

[uneven anchor]

me

[jade rover]

250ms to 300ms is 3 frames only

[uneven anchor]

[jade rover]

But you can feel the difference

[faint ingot]

or is it placebo?

[uneven anchor]

Yes i can feel it too

[jade rover]

Nah

[uneven anchor]

placebo maybe

[undone sandal]

no

[jade rover]

It isn’t, 250ms is definitely much faster than 300ms

[uneven anchor]

like statistically you dont need or want a laser

[jade rover]

I run a laser on my outlaw but otherwise it’s usually pointless for snipers

[uneven anchor]

outlaw

[jade rover]

I love it

[uneven anchor]

im bad w/ sniper but outlaw kinda satisfying ngl even tho less hitbox

[faint ingot]

I am NOT gonna be ready to start getting camos for those lol

I suck with snipers, I've tried them
AR is about all I can use

and pistol a bit too

[jade rover]

What’s that semi auto pistol again? MW11?

I think that’s the best whatever it’s called

[timber idol]

y’all r still on dam

[jade rover]

🦫

[faint ingot]

I mean, conversations happen often, and long talks happen longer than you think

[jade rover]

No tbf

[uneven anchor]

bro it almost 2 hour commute to university what am i supposed to do

[jade rover]

We haven’t been doing much all day lol

[uneven anchor]

[timber idol]

😂😂😂

[faint ingot]

also, ouch on that drive

[timber idol]

fare explanation ngl

[jade rover]

Yeah

[uneven anchor]

on the train and bus

[jade rover]

But doesn’t explain beforehand

[faint ingot]

even worse ouch
People are annoying in public

[timber idol]

sorry wrong ping

[uneven anchor]

aint drivn im poor and a tree fell on my car

[jade rover]

Trust he also hasn’t been doing much like me

Not possible kek

[timber idol]

dam

[uneven anchor]

truly the luckiest man alive

[jade rover]

A tree fell on your car?

[uneven anchor]

Yeah

[jade rover]

Stationary or when driving

[faint ingot]

yes

[uneven anchor]

Rip bozo back window

stationary

[jade rover]

Oh right

[uneven anchor]

like the ONE tree that fell in the entire neighborhood

[jade rover]

I was gonna say if you were driving that’s really lucky

To survive

[grave peak]

hehehehe

[jade rover]

?

Cursed laugh

[faint ingot]

ugh, Can't wait till I hit level 10, just want that badge next to my name lel

[lament crystal]

Hy

[jade rover]

Try hard snipe hard?

[lament crystal]

Ho need play with me😢

[jade rover]

Idk how else to read ur name

Just realised

I thought it was gibberish

Anyways

[undone sandal]

not sure if dræ is here but if he is then you can give him feedback abt his findings

[lament crystal]

I want play with other

Preson

[jade rover]

Dræ [search name to find this msg]

[stone violet]

I got gold on my knife

Wanna see

[lament crystal]

Play with me

[stone violet]

No

[jade rover]

So bad

[lament crystal]

😢😢

[faint ingot]

yup, not many people get it haha

[lament crystal]

Why 😢😢💔

[undone sandal]

@woven hound

[lament crystal]

😂😂

[undone sandal]

[storm lance]

Damn that's a very good knife right there

[lament crystal]

Cr7

[jade rover]

I have a gas mask 🤷‍♂️

One sec

[stone violet]

Ong

I grind so much

[storm lance]

Me with an actual combat knife :

[jade rover]

IRL perk

[timber idol]

a sign that u need to stay home and play codm🤣🤣🤣

@uneven anchor

[jade rover]

Next pandemic hits imma be safe 😌

I think everyone should get one if they can afford. It’s like $200 or smth

Which is like half a mythic 🤣

[storm lance]

You really can help yourself by not getting outside ig

[jade rover]

What’s everyone’s favourite loadout?

[jade rover]

Yes but eventually you’d have to

So just put on overalls, gloves, those shoe gloves that you wear in public swimming pools, and the mask. Then when you get back home dump it all in a box by the door for half a week to kill the virus. Basically bulletproof

[storm lance]

And if you can spray water it'll help or even hear up your house like if any gas got in it'll get poff

[faint ingot]

AK117 with a pistol in secondary

[jade rover]

Yeah but I mean send an image

[storm lance]

Why just why

Why to use the j35

That thing is just useless

[faint ingot]

Just what I’ve used, never learned anything else

[jade rover]

Mine is probs this, with quick fix

Or this with toughness

But I think I prefer the GKS Damascus

Strafe speed is high (4.23m/s), 3HK = 18.4m, 4HK = 40.3m if you need range and it’s super accurate for an SMG - BSA is 18.8(7.9). Irons are custom and really good too.

[storm lance]

By HK you meant

[faint ingot]

hit kill

[unreal gale]

I'd switch mono for tactical suppressor (you don't need more range) and stock for no stock (more mobility)

[unreal gale]

Nah that's not me

[unreal gale]

He got banned. The apple store thing is independent of his ban

[unreal gale]

Used to be for a bunch. I havent played in like 3 months already though

[jade rover]

I like the range. I just treat it like Tectonic did with his; this has faster ADS speed and further range but lower strafe (his strafe speed is still garbage but mine is even worse)

[unreal gale]

No, tectonic stacks recoil and bsa not range

He uses mip light extended barrel and tactical suppressor with Ranger grip

But run stability meta instead trust

Tac, marksman, no stock, laser, mag

[jade rover]

I have less recoil and better BSA

[unreal gale]

But also a lot slower

[jade rover]

Strafe is 2 vs 2.5 roughly

Both are so slow

No point strafing

[unreal gale]

His one is a lot faster

[hot shoal]

Y’all fw the m4

[jade rover]

He never strafes

[unreal gale]

Strafing helps you aim

[jade rover]

Not ADS time

Mine is faster ADS too

By a couple frames

[unreal gale]

You shouldn't base your builds off of him

[jade rover]

I didn’t

[unreal gale]

You don't play scrim style

[jade rover]

He’s got god tier aim

[unreal gale]

For you mobility is important

[jade rover]

Wdym

It depends

[unreal gale]

You need to reposition

Dude trust me. If you're playing as a ranked warrior you need a different set of things

[storm lance]

@unreal gale hai sowey for interacting but wanted to say hi

[jade rover]

I’m not as high as you but still legendary

[unreal gale]

Hello

[storm lance]

[unreal gale]

Legendary is very very broad

Most people who play ranked are legendary to put into perspective

But that's not the point

[jade rover]

Here’s the GKS build, not the best aim aside these guys are still far away for an SMG and you can see the strafe.

[jade rover]

That isn’t true

[unreal gale]

Me being good doesn't make my builds good

[jade rover]

But sure the build could be shit

[jade rover]

If they’re a bit closer it’s much faster TTK, I should have recorded that

[unreal gale]

Huh but we're talking about kilo though

[storm lance]

What about this is it good

Dukie told me about this build

[unreal gale]

That build is pretty old but it's pretty good

I'd swap gran tape to laser

I also strongly recommend tac suppressor and marksman instead of mono and extended

[storm lance]

Is this good or worse

[viscid belfry]

hvk build without lca

[storm lance]

I swapped the strike foregrip to laser btw

[jade rover]

Yeah it was kilo and gks

[unreal gale]

Worse

[jade rover]

Strike is an L

[storm lance]

Okie it worked well for me tho

[unreal gale]

Strike grip isn't good

[viscid belfry]

@royal dagger

[storm lance]

Read mf

[unreal gale]

Oh sorry

Uh it lacks range now

That was the aggressive meta when kilo came out

Kilo used to have like infinite range

[jade rover]

And video below wdy think @unreal gale

[jade rover]

^

[unreal gale]

?

Wdym

[storm quartz]

Hello ✌🏽

[jade rover]

Is it anything impressive or not especially

[viscid belfry]

they removed auto builds?

[unreal gale]

Not especially imo xD

[jade rover]

I’ll try do it with my CBR

I don’t think I’ll be able to

One sec will be back

[unreal gale]

I do recommend switching to claw though

[faint ingot]

Question
I'm currently using the AK117, with the pictured attachments
Are there any suggestions for a different weapon/attachments that might perform better?
I play random, so whatever comp mode I get put into, so it does need to be a bit more balanced, although I'm willing to make an SnD specific build, since I know builds change for that

I'd like to stay in the AR category, but I'm open to suggestions, as long as they aren't satire

[royal dagger]

Extended mag, combat stock, light barrel, mono, tac laser

[slate quarry]

Good man of war ranked snd build

[unreal gale]

Krig

[viscid belfry]

finally

[unreal gale]

Well the most similar gun is actually m13 and it's pretty good too

[jade rover]

@unreal gale it is noticeably harder to track with CBR

[unreal gale]

What's your build?

[rich arch]

@quaint token

[unreal gale]

Hey @rich arch

[faint ingot]

I'll try it out, and try to find a build in #codm-gunsmith-builds for it

[rich arch]

Sunny D

[unreal gale]

Not a fan of that stock haha

[unreal gale]

Do you have the mythic?

[rich arch]

Lol I love the mobility. What’s ur suggestion?

[faint ingot]

oh, no?

[unreal gale]

Swap ammo to normal extended mag b, take firm grip off and use a Red dot

Feel free to use FA grip too

[jade rover]

Build is here

[jade rover]

I wish I had that 😫

[faint ingot]

I'll take a look, and experiment with it for a while!

much appreciated

[quaint token]

Ooo

[unreal gale]

Np

[jade rover]

I’m gassed about this build but try it out it won’t disappoint

[unreal gale]

Btw @jade rover try to practice with two or three bots max

[rich arch]

I use red dot instead of foregrip, bc I don’t have mythic 😒

[jade rover]

Ok will record now

[unreal gale]

So you encourage staying on target