codm-gunsmith-help

[lusty obsidian]

Maybe for shipment. But on random MP maps I’m still taking the range over the delay

I can slide and wack 3 people in one hit

[uneven anchor]

Me when im in a lying competition and my opponent is bar stats

[lusty obsidian]

Anybody use Nunchucks?

[uneven anchor]

gonna post Prize fighter gunsmith on #codm-gunsmith-builds

nun chucks

[lost relic]

Personally, I prefer shovel.

[boreal owl]

Same

[uneven anchor]

prize fights are just 2 shot faster fire rate nunchucks why run the chucks

[boreal owl]

I’ve been playing shovel for a long time also💀

[lost relic]

You can get reported for that. 4 hour mute. It happened to me.

[uneven anchor]

wait what

[boreal owl]

Yk I use kar with shovel
Basically a trench warfare guy

[uneven anchor]

Wtf man melee weapon stats are real

cringe mods ngl

[boreal owl]

Gunsmithing builds channel is smth dif from here smh☕️

[uneven anchor]

Obviously you cant just post melee weapon cool skin haha but explain in overview why its superior

Gunsmithing builds channel are mfs fr

nuked my kilo

[coarse oasis]

Thx

[lusty obsidian]

AR15
—————
+6 control / -Silencer (A)
————————————————————
-6 control / +Silencer. (B)
————————————————————
+8 accuracy / -3 mobility / +8 range / +Silencer. (C)

[ruby iris]

@rich arch

Shit looks nice

[lusty obsidian]

ADS, Aim Movement Speed, Movement Speed, Sprint Speed - all the same

[lusty obsidian]

Is that the new XMAS camo in the crates

[ruby iris]

New tournament camo

Sheesh

[ruby iris]

Hot

[rich arch]

Lmao

[ruby iris]

Very nice camo

[rich arch]

I didn’t see you sent the camo pics here I had to dig through another server to find one lmao

[ruby iris]

@rich arch

[ruby iris]

@rich arch

[rich arch]

On that sks blueprint.. 10/10

[lusty obsidian]

Oh dope I haven’t check it out yet. I think the crate one is RPD

[rich arch]

They need to add these camos

[lusty obsidian]

For Sniping speed boosting what melee y’all like? machete for switching back to Sniper? Or Assault Knife for switching to knife to run away faster?

[storm lance]

Tbh machete is kinda fast but not like karambit
Assault knife idk i never used it before

[ruby iris]

Damn, they made a camo that looks good on the m4lmg

[storm lance]

Wait that's available

[ruby iris]

Not yet, tournament starts this week

[lost relic]

Assault knife feels kinda slow to swap to. Shovel has great swap time, but poor movement speed. Machete or karambit probably best.

[storm lance]

I use butterfly knife sometimes when I want the feel of mw

[lost relic]

That one always reminds me of CSGO

[storm lance]

But the knifes in CS were alot better

[flat ridge]

I need a ground war koshka loadout

[lusty obsidian]

Well Machete is fastest for switching back to your snipe. So when you have you’re machete out running fast, and an enemy comes in sight - it’ll be the fastest melee for pulling your sniper back out.

Assault Knife is the fastest to switch to. When you’re in an “Oh Shit moment” with your sniper out and the enemy is too close, it’s the fastest melee to pull out so you can run away fast

So pick your style of play. I personally like the Machete for sniping. I’m mostly in the cuts and shadows sitting in one place. So it’s nice to have a melee weapon I can always have out and whenever I’m ready to shoot someone, I can switch out the fastest

[storm lance]

What's so hard in literally using the melee if they were sooo close

[flat ridge]

I need a ground war koshka loadout

[lusty obsidian]

There is that aspect too. Some people like to run away, some people like to always have melee out and be able to swap fast, others like to be able to do the quickest and most damage up close. Which would probably be the Boxing Gloves/Kali Sticks

When you’re grinding out all the camos, you don’t want any other types of kills except sniper kills. So running away would be ideal

COD is very subjective and situational

[storm lance]

Yea taking your distance is always better than up close fights

You can always hipfire your sniper but that's straight out luck

[lusty obsidian]

Just like some people run FAST ADS on every assault rifles because they know how to control the recoil and aim very well, when others rather have slower ADS/Movement Speed but very low Recoil so they can shoot straight as possible

Concussion nade + running = best move. Unless you’re a quick scoping with Tactical Scope or x3 scope

There’s close range snipers and then long range snipers. It’s just crazy that there’s a 100 different possibilities for each weapon and all depending on how you enjoy to play

[austere igloo]

Im among the latter lel

Not say Im a camper, but passive style of gameplay is my best style

Aggro tactic doesnt always work for me hence I stick to passive

Hence my weapons dont usually hv very fast ads, doesnt mean they r slow though

They hv reasonably fast ads & mobility as well

[lusty obsidian]

Honestly I have a “range” of numbers for each stat area. Like ADS on ARs I like it to be around +200-225. Anything low like 180 ADS and I feel like I would be better off slowing it down a bit and rather have the better accuracy/control

[austere igloo]

Yes to the second part

[lusty obsidian]

I had an AR at 337 ADS and that’s Maxed out Control/Accuracy, with no mobility stats. And the recoil was so damn straight that I said I don’t need it that straight, and switch out some attachments to get mobility in the build

[storm lance]

@lusty obsidian i think you need some rest from typing that much

[stray rapids]

I put sight there

[lusty obsidian]

Holo ftw

[near zenith]

nice build u got there bud

[tawdry valley]

is the qxr any good, if it is, is this legendary worth buying

[silk crow]

I need BR krm or by15

Whichever one is better

[ruby iris]

@uneven anchor

[stray rapids]

Where ranger foregrip😱

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

True

i forgot who came in asking for T-25

but uh there it is

[near zenith]

ner-

[cunning rapids]

Krm better by15 bad

[ruby iris]

Use gran

In br you'd want to ads

Cuz bsa mod

[silk crow]

Ty

[uneven anchor]

@ruby iris

[ruby iris]

[viscid belfry]

stippled ew

[viscid belfry]

tac to a mag

[uneven anchor]

wait u think its viable?

[viscid belfry]

ig

if u want make it more nice

gran to rubber

[uneven anchor]

@ruby iris did you hear that?

full BSA fanatic holy

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

cope

[viscid belfry]

[uneven anchor]

[stray rapids]

No sp die

[timber jewel]

I need br smg builds

[austere igloo]

type25 is not an smg

just bcoz its built to behave like one, doesnt make it one

[uneven anchor]

T25 is an SMG

[austere igloo]

no it isnt

[uneven anchor]

On that build make sure to run Hip fire Mod in BR

[uneven anchor]

[ruby iris]

Fast mobility
Fast rpm
Good
Hipfire

[tacit burrow]

Open the noor

Does anyone have krig 6 build

[austere igloo]

doesnt count

[ruby iris]

Only difference between type 25 and other smgs is that type 25 outperforms most, if not all smgs ttk wise, while having double the range

[zenith pumice]

Is hip fire mod actually useful in BR because it's the one I automatically dump since I never use hip fire outside of shotties

[north rune]

Is Asm10 decent in BR?

[stray rapids]

No

[zenith pumice]

I mean useful as in you never hip fire, I never do it outside of MP

[austere igloo]

just bcoz it has certain traits of a smg doesnt suddenly change the weapon type

[north rune]

And can I have a GKS build?

[austere igloo]

coming right up

[north rune]

Auto-gunsmith where

[north rune]

Thenks

[stray rapids]

Useful

[tacit burrow]

Can someone gib me krig 6 build

[ruby iris]

It outperforms all smgs at what smg does, therefore it's an smg

[zenith pumice]

Useful if you never actually use hip fire only ADS specifically

[austere igloo]

[tacit burrow]

Thanks u

[stray rapids]

Agency sup
Lightweight stok
Mag B
Firm gripe
Striker fg/tf barrel

[uneven anchor]

For that specific t25 build yeah

[stray rapids]

What?

[austere igloo]

type 25 is an assault rifle and it will remain as such

[stray rapids]

I use hipfire in br

On smgs anyway

[north rune]

Thanks!

[uneven anchor]

cope

[austere igloo]

u dont suddenly slap on attachments onto a rifle and it suddenly changes into an smg

thats not how it works

[stray rapids]

Type uses light ammo in br lmao

[north rune]

I just got GKS Damascus and it's ironsights are a massive L

[stray rapids]

Go check it

[austere igloo]

no it doesnt

lmfao

[ruby iris]

It doesnt, it becomes an even better smg

[north rune]

Even the base gun skin looks more like a skin than it does

[zenith pumice]

I don't hipfire, only set it up on the rare occasion I play shotguns on MP

[stray rapids]

Trust

Enter a br match and see

[austere igloo]

ar that trumps all other smgs

[stray rapids]

me when i spread misinformation

[austere igloo]

u? nah

[zenith pumice]

I use the stock ADS controls and I am on a phone with thumbs not using buttons or controller or emulator

[stray rapids]

@ruby iris is pdw part of smg class?

Or 1 of its own

[austere igloo]

[stray rapids]

I mean the real life

[ruby iris]

Only thing type has that makes it an ar is category, that's it

[austere igloo]

Its built around the real life p90/cbr4

[fluid harbor]

Anyone wana one v one with sick builds

[ruby iris]

[stray rapids]

Uh huh

[austere igloo]

Theres actually a weapon thats called pdw irl

But its not the ingame one

[stray rapids]

I was asking about pdw types of guns

[ruby iris]

Pdw is weird

[austere igloo]

Irl pdw exists, but not as codm’s pdw

[stray rapids]

We know

[zenith pumice]

Pdw in real life is kind of more a class of weapons

[austere igloo]

& msmc is real weapon in case ur wondering

[ruby iris]

There's like

[zenith pumice]

Which is basically extreme short barreled rifles acting like an smg

[ruby iris]

4 different definition of pdw

[zenith pumice]

Hold up I'll post my toilet pistol

[austere igloo]

This is an example

[ruby iris]

Machine pistols with stocks also counts as pdw

[austere igloo]

soo...lcar9?

[ruby iris]

The krinkov also counts as pdw

[ruby iris]

Ingame ye

Vector could also be counted as a pdw

[austere igloo]

Damn

[austere igloo]

[zenith pumice]

Stupid discord o
Won't let me go back that far in pictures

[fresh sage]

cod ghost pdw

[austere igloo]

that moment when a portion of codm's guns r actually pdws

[fresh sage]

epic

[austere igloo]

pErSoNaL dEfEnSe wEaPoNs

[fresh sage]

cant wait for fss hurricane (its cool trust me)

[ruby iris]

More pdws

[fresh sage]

dev fetish

[austere igloo]

also is dingo based on any real life gun or is it just a fictitious gun

[fresh sage]

this or fuckin up game balance

[ruby iris]

Fictious gun prolly

[austere igloo]

coz i cant find any results of dingo on the guns wiki page

[ruby iris]

If it's based on something, that shit would be ultra rare

[fresh sage]

i mean double barrrel lmg with ficition ammo for cqc

kinda dead giveaway

[austere igloo]

that moment when oden is actually a real gun

called the ash 12.7

[fresh sage]

stalker

[austere igloo]

ash 12.7 actually sounds bttr wth

they shouldve just kept that instead of "oDEn"

[fresh sage]

copyright names :

[austere igloo]

like wtf kinda name is ".50gs"?

[fresh sage]

copyright

[uneven anchor]

IRL double barrel dingo when?

[zenith pumice]

I tried I just had to put it in a different folder

[fresh sage]

wait for the aussie lads do it in 2049

[austere igloo]

so they copyright desert eagle, but somehow they are allowed to keep the mac10 & ppsh41 real names?

logic

even the ak47 in codm isnt actually an ak47

[zenith pumice]

Discord won't let you go thousands of pictures back in the same folder on phone app there's a limit

[uneven anchor]

Bro PPSH is a soviet designed from WW2

[fresh sage]

the thing is ppsh is an old gun that no company copyright it

[uneven anchor]

Ain no way theres copyright on that

[fresh sage]

for the k98k situation

dev just dumn

[austere igloo]

mac10 is modern day gun but no copyright

[ruby iris]

Mac 10 was from

[fresh sage]

it mean that activision acquired the right for adding the gun

[uneven anchor]

USSR collapsed no one to copy right

[austere igloo]

SVD too

[fresh sage]

so 3arc add it

[ruby iris]

The 60's

[uneven anchor]

wtf

[austere igloo]

i mean, techincally dragunov's real name is svd dragunov so ig ill let that slide

[austere igloo]

isnt that the mp5

[vernal nimbus]

Just stop typing bro

[uneven anchor]

Mac 10 was meta in the 1960s

[austere igloo]

no

[fresh sage]

both are

[uneven anchor]

[zenith pumice]

Ooh draggy here's my svds....

[austere igloo]

and chicom...they kept part of its real name in too

[fresh sage]

the day fuckin springfield is copyrighted is the day pipe bomb

[fresh sage]

mfw bo1 have mac but its set on 1968

[uneven anchor]

[austere igloo]

'in service = 1970 onwards'

[uneven anchor]

Still old asf, besides copyright or some IPs can expire

[fresh sage]

ye but the right for the name has been in 1964

[austere igloo]

come to think of it...doesnt that mean cobray m11 is also a mac10 (technically)

[fresh sage]

either activision bought the right for exact mac10 replica

[ruby iris]

Hk433 was designed in 2017 and hasnt even entered service

[fresh sage]

gonna be like acr

acr 2.0

[ruby iris]

Yet kilo 141

[uneven anchor]

shut up kilo is perfect

[austere igloo]

& then theres m13, which actual name is “SIG MCX Virtus”

[timber jewel]

That’s an at lmao I need light ammo smg builds

[ruby iris]

Man didnt read the whole convo

[tribal ledge]

yall is the em2 getting buffed?

[royal dagger]

No?

[uneven anchor]

@ruby iris

i have a problem….

Im addicted

252 ads time cmon surely its good

[stray rapids]

God i hate your builds

Use field agent foregrip and the barrel that gives maximum bv

[uneven anchor]

no

[unreal gale]

Definitely switch out the stock for the strafe one

I'd also swap laser for either BO or FA grip

Also you need a suppressor

Just because you do trust. Swap the barrel for the agent supp

And personally I think fast reload is worth the little bit slower ads since the ads is already good with firm grip

[stray rapids]

He doesn't use conventional builds

He likes slow af builds

He uses marksman and Ranger fg on every gun smh

[zenith pumice]

It works so far

[uneven anchor]

I like hitting my shots builds

[rich arch]

oop

[unreal gale]

Lol so do I

Just ask @ruby iris xD

But there's a difference between stability builds and suboptimal builds

[zenith pumice]

Curses I got warned for posting real life guns

[young shale]

there is smth called fast ext mag b

[uneven anchor]

You know what?

162ms ADS time

Heavy krig doesnt work ur right @stray rapids

but now its time, sawed off light krig

[young shale]

0-o

[stray rapids]

I reccomended max bv barrel and field agent foregrip for your playstyle

Are you dumb or dumb

[uneven anchor]

oge

[young shale]

he is dumb dumb

[uneven anchor]

im getting hella desperate i cant make the krig work im so bad

[zenith pumice]

Obviously I have that option too, this one is for gotta go fast

[uneven anchor]

auto build suck, full bsa suck, full ads suck, strafe is kinda suck

its full BV time baby

@stray rapids gunsmithing the krig, worst day of my life

[timber idol]

its good

@zenith pumice

i think its same to mine idk

and yes it is @zenith pumice

[timber idol]

good build ngl

its ayt

[zenith pumice]

Yeah that's very very close to the same, a tiny bit less go fast for more ammo and hip fire accuracy

[uneven anchor]

Omfg its cracked

[timber idol]

not very close it is the same😂

[uneven anchor]

stacking BSA on krig is not the move

STACK BV

[timber idol]

yh u went for full accuracy contand aim lol

stacked

[uneven anchor]

Bullet Velocity STACK

[timber idol]

ohhh u went for agile stock

@zenith pumice

[uneven anchor]

I finally found my krig gunsmith

[zenith pumice]

I might play with that load out I feel fine with 40rd but 50rd being 25% more ammo is useful in a lot of situations, and maybe start actually using hipfire sometimes.
Having it tuned up like mine to be fast moving like an SMG you can still get wrecked by actual SMG at arms length distance

[timber idol]

@uneven anchor isn’t the lightweight much better or this guy is using the useless stats that show up there?

bad idea for agile stock @zenith pumice

[uneven anchor]

Whats he using instead of lightweight

[timber idol]

agile

[uneven anchor]

Agile

[timber idol]

i mean its ayt

[zenith pumice]

Yeah I was using the same with no stock for a while and.really enjoying.it then switched to agile since I don't.really use hipfire, it almost moves too fast

[timber idol]

but

he just copied jokesta

[uneven anchor]

agile is bait bro

skulker / lightweight

Meta

[timber idol]

jokesa uses agile

ig he copied him

[uneven anchor]

Agile only good if you aim after running but no one does that

[zenith pumice]

I don't know anything about who that is I just started playing again three weeks ago

[uneven anchor]

just sprint cancel aim

[crisp laurel]

hii guys can someone dm me i need a lil help

[timber idol]

u will never get gold if u dont do hipfire challenge 😂😂

[uneven anchor]

Slide Aim or Jump Aim

[timber idol]

dont u know that

[zenith pumice]

Well yeah I just don't care about camo

[timber idol]

bro u slide and jump before u peak corners

[crisp laurel]

i will be so grateful

[timber idol]

aint nothing like jump and aim

😂

[timber idol]

just say what u need

@crisp laurel

[crisp laurel]

check dm rq

[zenith pumice]

Yeah I mean my play style in MP for the most part is sprint to ADS

[timber idol]

fine

[timber idol]

bro if u just sprint to ads without sliding on corners u get destroyed 🤣

[rich arch]

Ask in #codm-discussion

[zenith pumice]

Of course I slide and what not I just mean I don't really use hipfire unless it's shotgun

I joined here mostly to look at setups and posted that one knowing full well someone might clown on it I don't care. Constructive criticism is fine by me, make all the assumptions or little emoji faces you want

[stray rapids]

Wahappen

[zenith pumice]

Oh nothing he's just being a smartass because I mentioned I don't really use hipfire and little laughy faces because I don't care about getting gold....I don't use camo and any weapon or add-ons on any skin

Literally just use ghost Stealth and no camo with pair of lightning bolts on every single load out, could do no attachments and hipfire and have gold on them but really could not care less

[uneven anchor]

i thought it bc u used Agile perk

[uneven anchor]

also 50bv barrel W holy

[zenith pumice]

I mean Raiden not you, yeah using agile would probably change that up. It's not a great build but works ok so far, pretty new to using krig in MP

I do like how versatile it is though, like if you were creative and obsessive enough you could have all ten load outs for different maps and modes in MP

[timber idol]

he gave me a free amazon prime gift card for saying i will help him🤣 and he left server @rich arch

[boreal owl]

Smh

☕️

[timber idol]

who me new? @zenith pumice

[timber idol]

mh

[runic needle]

Cbr4 pls

[north rune]

GKS sucks now?

Can't hide the pain. I loved this gun

[runic needle]

what happened to autobuilds channel

[north rune]

It's removed

Probably because of outdated builds or something

Idk

[runic needle]

[north rune]

Marksman
Gran
Tac Laser
Tactical Supp
Light Stock

Marksman can be Ext Light

[runic needle]

Thx

[fair blade]

Tac supp, disable, tac laser, 110 belt, gran

Viable for s36 mp?

[stray rapids]

Nah

Mid

[north rune]

Mid it is

Your profile looks like that Gungnir avatar in-game

[stray rapids]

Nah

[north rune]

Agree to disagree

[young shale]

Dingo build?

Btw where is the auto builds

Imma just gonna name this steel rain in my loadout when it gets realeased

[fresh sage]

idk about the stock

rice says it doesnt do much

or something

[rich arch]

Does the dingo have normal or Cold war gunsmith?

[fresh sage]

cold war

[fair blade]

gone

[ruby iris]

You dont get crazy strafe on it

So, ehh

[fresh sage]

epic

custom name stock only for it not to be recommeded

[ruby iris]

No stock holger gets 3.66m/s strafe

Dingo with stock and light mag gets like 3

[lean frost]

[doesn't it have bo3 gunsmith]

[vernal nimbus]

@ruby iris

[rich arch]

Why

[fair blade]

Dunno

[rich arch]

Is dingo recommended as meta btw

[fair blade]

I've been wondering that for a while but nobody said why

Dingo idk

It looks entertaining but dunno statwise

Lack of penetration is a little offputting

[rich arch]

Low accuracy and high recoil in exchange of slightly high fire rate

And a "mid" peneration

Hmm

[fair blade]

Heard the range was a little iffy on it

[coral kindle]

any good dlq build?

[fair blade]

Bro can't stop getting abused by the bot

💀

[rich arch]

If the gun fails of peneration and even range I guess I could save for another bp then

[rich arch]

Bruh

[amber loom]

Anyone br?

[fair blade]

Might as well get and max it out

[rich arch]

#940969972983791626

[amber loom]

That not opening

[rich arch]

[amber loom]

🌚

[fair blade]

Light supp, light barrel, combat stock, ext mag A, FMJ/SOH

[rich arch]

I would just get it after I grind the level to 50 and I would decide to buy it or not

[amber loom]

Best qq9 gunsmith?

[fair blade]

🤷‍♂️

[fair blade]

I get em at the start bc I know i'll finish em

[rich arch]

I don't know if I could reach 50 before my semester starts

[fair blade]

Fair enough

[amber loom]

I have the same gunsmith but different stock

[rich arch]

And yes, if this season got anime crate, I might decide to get ground force instead

[fair blade]

🧍 what stock

[lean frost]

Light
Leaves room

[fair blade]

🧍

[amber loom]

Mip something i don't remember the whole name

[fair blade]

Into the meat grinder I go

[lean frost]

Whatever stock u have
No stock is better

[rich arch]

[fair blade]

Bro using strike stock

[lean frost]

bruh

[fair blade]

🧍

All my organs instantaneously failed after hearing steady stock

[amber loom]

K

[lean frost]

Me when people use marksman, mono and steady stock on a bizon:

[fair blade]

Me when people use halberd on MP swordfish:

[lean frost]

normal swordfish is actually pretty good
Halbred is cring

[fair blade]

Normal mag swordfish hits

[lean frost]

marksman and steady on a bizon have about the same affect as marksman and steady on a snoipuh

[minor dragon]

doesn't ZRG have cold war gunsmith?

[rich arch]

this game is a run n gun game, considering standing still equals to dead, you primary priority should be how to strafe fast enough to dodge the bullet, but not going for max accuracy and recoil.

Except marksman and snipers, you should always go no stock/light stock. (considering they give less disadvantage for simliar effect or even more, example like cbr4's light stock which give movement speed for strafe while ads PLUS SPRINT TO FIRE DELAY REDUCTION)

And yes, smg is a class for "fuck camping, I am going to jump and slide around corner to dodge so I could turn you upside down", so you would prefer more ads movement speed then accuracy.

[rich arch]

Seriously what is your guys rule to decide which attachment is meta? (Highest plus for less advantage? Or just BSA and movement speed goes brrr rule?)

I mean people could still go well with these off meta attachments

Example like grinding camos

[rich arch]

Last one thing, if you want to make these meta movement speed stuff goes off with effort, try to practice flick shot, slide cancel, and ads strafing. (You could even jump while ads firing!) You could be surprised how these speed actually makes aiming at you harder and allowing more streaks.

[lean frost]

Where do I start

Actually I'm not gonna start
Too tired

[rich arch]

I don't know
I just heard people love BSA and movement speed that's all

I don't know any of hidden rule to decide if one attachment is meta or not.

The only time I give up using meta guns and attachments is the time I grind type 25 rename for my frosted moon blueprint and I use 48 rounds mag instead SP mag

Cause I can't kill with only 30 rounds

[lean frost]

The attachments which are the best for a weapon depend on how ur using that weapon
Anchoring, you'd wanna range and BSA boost mostly
For versatility it's focusing on strafe, bsa, range and also ads time
For purely aggresive bsa, strafe and overall mobility are nice to hav
But when u take a gun like the bizon
It just doesn't make any sense to go with a passive build On it
It's like using a sniper with the "aCcUraCy" bar stat boosted upto like 100

snipers
don't
have
accuracy
In the first place

[rich arch]

Hips do

I sometimes hip with snipers

[lean frost]

bizon also doesn't have recoil
And the buff marksman+mono gives compared to mono+ext light is negligible

[lean frost]

how often do u hipfire with a sniper compared to ADSing with a sniper is what I would like to know first

Also snipers don't have attachments which make hipfire accuracy better

Except if they have flash guard
or something

the point I'm gonna make is that for some guns
Stay with the versatile build

[austere igloo]

J358 with flash guard is op

[rich arch]

So could it consider that this build is wrong?

I use barrel instead gran grip

[lean frost]

Large cal is useless
Other then that, it's just the normal build

Use gran over large cal

[rich arch]

Wait this is my build right bizon came out

Explain, nerf on the mag?

[lean frost]

No
Buff on the normal mag

[rich arch]

But the damage multiplier

Faster ttk> mag size?

Or vise versa?

[lean frost]

Both have the same 3 stk potential as far as I'm concerned
Soo
no

large cal won't gib faster ttk

[austere igloo]

Then why does the large cal mag on it say “body part damage multiplier” in green?

If it has no diff in stk

[lean frost]

ask Activision
me not dev

[stray rapids]

It's not

[stray rapids]

If u use large cal, may want to consider marksman barrel to increase the range

[stray rapids]

Tac laser is the "meta attachment"

[lean frost]

[stray rapids]

But on some guns its not the best

[stray rapids]

The thing about base ammo is that the leg multi is so weak it messes up potentials quite significantly

A clearer pic 🗿

[neon narwhal]

large cal stopped being good after the bizon nerf

[neon narwhal]

back in the days it'd give legs consistency

[stray rapids]

1 leg shot pretty much messes up 3 shot potential

[lean frost]

Doesn't large cal do the same thing
Either way, Both are 4 stk to stomach and 2/3 for 3 stk stk to chest, which I'd say is more to enough to justify using gran over large cal

[stray rapids]

Large cal increases leg multi to 1.0x

[neon narwhal]

hermes is stuck at pre-nerf bizon

[lean frost]

hmm, 4 instead 5 stk for L.C
worth it?
I wouldn't say so since to recover from the damage debuffs you'd have to run marksman

Range debuffs*

me dum

[neon narwhal]

just dont use large cal lmao

[stray rapids]

Ye marksman is kind of needed on lc

[lean frost]

Also the chance of u hitting legs as ur first shot and then hitting the stomach twice doesn't seem very consistent

[stray rapids]

Mobility isn't terrible with marksman

[neon narwhal]

at this point disable would be better than lc

[stray rapids]

Eh call lc a lower skill option

But it's not useless

Hitting legs will still require you to get upper body shots to rectify the minor aiming issue

Or else get worse stk

[hollow pendant]

@uneven anchor the switch blade and holgar build's you gave me r awesome thanks

[frigid wind]

locus building please

[boreal owl]

.

[frigid wind]

i hate this gun

imma use dlq f locus

even in close range it gives hitmark

[stray rapids]

Lmaoo

[lone ore]

Fax

[marsh ice]

Asval

Plz

[vernal nimbus]

Whats the fastest ttk gun right now?

[marsh ice]

Snipers

[stray rapids]

Hvk 2 tap headshot

[jovial grotto]

what happened with the auto builds?

[ruby iris]

Gone

Ppl barely use it

[analog moss]

I use it :(

[rich arch]

I use it cause yo ass can't be on 24/7

who's the bozo who got rid of it

[stoic lake]

anyone make a best peacekeeper mk2 br gunsmith for me i need him 🙄

[marsh ice]

Someone give agr build

@rich arch

[rich arch]

Is the mp5 suppressor barrel worth it when compared both build like this

[rich arch]

Diamond #70

2/3 of the way done with all diamond. Still so far to go 😒

[royal dagger]

Holy shit

[rich arch]

@royal dagger MorNin

[royal dagger]

Good job dude

[ruby iris]

Treecum

[rich arch]

Ty

[ruby iris]

[royal dagger]

👋

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

It didnt get auto deleted

[rich arch]

#560 completionist overall

[ruby iris]

[royal dagger]

[rich arch]

All that nitro and you reply with a shitty ass wave

[rich arch]

😭

[ruby iris]

Fund

[jade rover]

@ruby iris can I see your AK117

[royal dagger]

You don't deserve better

[royal dagger]

Monolithic, no stock, 48 round, tac laser, gran

[ruby iris]

Didnt i sent you already?

[rich arch]

coughs SVD coughs

[jade rover]

No that was AK47

[thin badge]

who got a class for dlq

[ruby iris]

This is what i personally use, and this is what i'd recommend to ppl

[tropic spade]

yo this skin got custom irons?

[jade rover]

Why do you value strafe speed when this isn’t that type of gun - may as well use CBR4 then

[jade rover]

It’s the kinda gun where you want to win an alleyway shootout or something

[jade rover]

That seems chunkier than basic

[ruby iris]

It doesnt affect range performance, so why not?

[jade rover]

Maybe aim shake is less idk

[jade rover]

But recoil/BSA is much worse

[ruby iris]

More versatility

[tropic spade]

I'm boutta abuse this in br, first anniversary pass is fire

[jade rover]

And at medium ranges that matters

[ruby iris]

Bsa is enough for it's range, recoil i can deal with

[rich arch]

Not like the ones from that mega crate

[jade rover]

Up to ~30m what’s the ideal BSA where it’s diminishing returns beyond that would you say

[ruby iris]

Unless you only spray 60m+, sup 18 bsa is more than enough

[jade rover]

Kk

[tropic spade]

you just remembered me about daily crate, that thing's useless 💀

[ruby iris]

With guns above 750 rpm, you can go as low as 20

And ak117 is 770

[tropic spade]

that's looks like the dlc gun from ghosts

[ruby iris]

This thing has around 18-19 iirc

[jade rover]

In that case I’d run this. I really like marksman barrel, it’s got a lot in it for the ADS penalty. Sub-250ms ADS time

[dark iron]

need lapa build that isnt sh*t

[rich arch]

I don’t use optics unless absolutely atrocious default like the krig

[tropic spade]

the red dot though

[jade rover]

Yeah I like it, red dot is meta in garena too so it’s not just “skill issue”. If not I guess tac supp or gran.

[ruby iris]

Tac supp

[rich arch]

Or integral supp barrel and gran perhaps

[jade rover]

Range, so no

[ruby iris]

Unfortunately, lapa is shit

[jade rover]

I disagree

[ruby iris]

Needs range

[tropic spade]

Garena players are a different breed tho, plus in not saying it's a skill issue, but it's definitely not the best decision since ak117 has great irons

[jade rover]

Hipfire LAPA is good

[tropic spade]

so br only weapon?

[dark iron]

i agree.. it was good before.. idk they shadow nerfed it

[ruby iris]

Nah

It has always underperformed

[rich arch]

Marksman such a huge ads penalty tho

[violet siren]

Garena people already got the S1 stuff?

[cunning rapids]

Yes

[violet siren]

Yyoo

lvl 200

[violet siren]

I want the kreeg 6

[jade rover]

LAPA hipfire is tight AF

[violet siren]

Amazon prime stuff

[jade rover]

So imo not a shit gun just because of that

[timber idol]

qq9 sights suck asf ngl , i cant see shit

[tropic spade]

level 200 is out or nah?

[violet siren]

To ww nah

[timber idol]

i haveq code but no amazon prime account

[violet siren]

Global version i mean

[rich arch]

Melting point diff

[timber idol]

not yet

[tropic spade]

damnit

[timber idol]

ye

[tropic spade]

bro i want that galil skin

[jade rover]

I love melting point. There are other QQ9s with better sights but it’s so close range that it doesn’t matter

[rich arch]

Albatross even better

[violet siren]

Galil? is not only cbr + kreeg 6?

[jade rover]

Melting point kill effect is too good tho

[tropic spade]

wait actually i don't remember, lemme look it up

[jade rover]

And the sights make like no difference

[rich arch]

That’s the only legendary qq9 I bought

[jade rover]

Same

[tropic spade]

oh yeah it's sh*t 6

[jade rover]

There’s zero real advantage to the other ones as the sights are clean enough, but they turn into a puddle of lava, 10/10

[tropic spade]

nvm i don't want that

i hope the p90 glows a lot like the other cosmos skins

[ruby iris]

Lapa has decent ttk for it's range

[jade rover]

With the hipfire though

It’s a shipment machine at least

Legendary kinda necessary for the irons

[ruby iris]

Unfortunately we're in a range meta and lapa's bv doesnt help with that

[timber idol]

do u guys see anyth wrong with this build lol i think its ok @ruby iris your thoughts

[jade rover]

Yeah I agree but for small maps it’s one of the best guns

[ruby iris]

Could have ranked higher if we're in a mobility meta

[jade rover]

Hipfire saves 200-300ms, most OP mechanic if you can be accurate

[timber idol]

its up top

qq9

[rich arch]

So close to all diamond shotguns, 87/120 echo and 65/120 R9-0 😒

[ruby iris]

Good

[rich arch]

Lol

[timber idol]

u think it doesn’t need anything like CRD coz sights suck

[jade rover]

@ruby iris 10mm plus recon barrel plus mono for QQ9 after buff? The range profile for the QQ9 and the 10mm are getting buffs

[rich arch]

Someone finish these shotguns for me 😁

[timber idol]

noice

cant wait

i need qq9 gold after finishing with the annoying m16

[drifting tusk]

Hi

[jade rover]

The first range (for reliable 4HK) is gonna be like 18m now vs 15m for the same build I think

Because both the mag and gun got range boost

[ruby iris]

Barely helps tbh

[jade rover]

Have you got the update?

[ruby iris]

If you're gonna use 10mm, might as well use a better gun

[ruby iris]

Ye

[jade rover]

It’s only 16.5?

Damn

[timber idol]

that the new lapa for next season on ranked , definitely gona grind for that

[ruby iris]

1.6m

[jade rover]

I thought it would be 17-18

[ruby iris]

[jade rover]

?

Oh the diff

Yeah that’s nothing

I expected more

[ruby iris]

You can get 4sk in second range, but highly unlikely cuz you need all 4 to hit chest/arms up, and bsa wouldnt support that

[timber idol]

[jade rover]

If you can see I commented straight afterwards idk why the bruh

[timber idol]

ik just confused on why u didn’t understand

no biggy

[jade rover]

With the damage boost too it’s more like 2.4m for 4HK tbf which is in the 20s metre range so might be relevant

Idk though haven’t played it

[ruby iris]

That is the range boosting build

[jade rover]

Yeah

[ruby iris]

You get less than 1.6m without range stack

[jade rover]

No

The 23dmg is a reliable 4HK

[ruby iris]

Not reliable at the slightest

[jade rover]

So up to 24m, the 22dmg is unreliable and less range

[ruby iris]

@jade rover

[jade rover]

Yes it is

[ruby iris]

Bsa just wouldnt support it

[jade rover]

You only need the 1.1 multipliers and the 1.2 allows you to miss some

If you hit abs you’re going to hit chest because of recoil in all likelihood and arms are all 1.1

So I think it’s totally fair to say it’s a reliable 4HK to 24m

[ruby iris]

23*1.1=25.3, you would need to connect all 4 shots to chest/arms for the 4sk, and the gun has 29.9 bsa

[jade rover]

Chest is 1.2

[timber idol]

do anyone here have amazon prim account i need to redem the code

i have one

[jade rover]

You’re wrong this time

[timber idol]

i thought that day would never come

[jade rover]

One 1.2 hit effectively counts as two 1.1 hits regarding reaching the TTK

[ruby iris]

Arms blocks chest, and 29.9 bsa, so you literally can not rely on it to get the 4sk, even with aimbot

[jade rover]

^ and arms are fine to hit

If you hit 1.2x, you can afford to hit a 1x and still 4HK

So that’s the sense in which one 1.2x hit is the same as two 1.1 hits for reaching the same TTK

There’s no way that’s not a reliable 4HK to 24m especially with recoil

[jade rover]

Also they still haven’t fixed the body part multiplier it’s the same as basic mag but shouldn’t be, how are they this lazy

Really annoys me when devs don’t care about stuff like that

[royal dagger]

Not for global yet, but yeah

[jade rover]

I had a mini panic attack lol

Cod got removed from the App Store

Supposedly they’re updating it but I’ve never seen that mean it gets removed

It isn’t on the App Store for iOS rn though

[ruby iris]

Prolly consistent enough on paper, but no where near enough practically

[jade rover]

Aiming too high imo

“Let the recoil guide you” -Ben Kenobi

[whole moss]

i need a gks gunsmith

[ruby iris]

Literally aimed chest level

[jade rover]

Yeah

Too high

Because of the thing I said before about the chest multiplier

[ruby iris]

@royal dagger @rich arch @rich arch cmere

Need you to test shits out

[jade rover]

Just need one chest hit and in terms of TTK it’s as if you hit two 1.1x

[rich arch]

What

[jade rover]

So if you aim for their lower chest/upper abs, sure you’ll perhaps get the first shot without multiplier, but then the rest you can

[rich arch]

Integral barrel
Light stock
Gran
Mag
Tac laser

[ruby iris]

Go to training room, use 10mm qq9, and just record yourself shooting at ~20m, to see if 4sk is consistent

[jade rover]

Only need two chest hits, or only one if you hit arms twice.

[whole moss]

thank you sm

[rich arch]

I'm on pc and my phone's off

[ruby iris]

Smh

[jade rover]

I’ll do it

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

[jade rover]

I’m legendary MP I’m not bad

[rich arch]

Rank doesn't matter tbh

[jade rover]

I tested including with moving bots and I wouldn’t call it a reliable 4HK at that sort of range, but sometimes it will be.

[analog moss]

Good build for outlaw? Thats 70% a 1 shot 1 kill @ruby iris

[jade rover]

@ruby iris

[analog moss]

And still have fast ads

[analog moss]

Damn

[ruby iris]

Sometimes isnt reliable lol

[jade rover]

I just said I agree

It isn’t reliable but it’s not unlikely

A decent amount of the time you’ll get it

[ruby iris]

You need to achieve it like 80% of the time for it to be considered reliable

[jade rover]

Yeah I said I agree

[analog moss]

Class for outlaw?

[jade rover]

If your recoil correction is godly then it would be

But I can’t do that

[ruby iris]

Tac supp, memorial cowboy, combat stock, stipple, soh/9r mag

[analog moss]

Ty

[jade rover]

I’d say about half of the time you’re getting this. Which is amazing seeing as it’s not bad to 5HK with the QQ9 at that range

[rich arch]

Kilo is stupid in br rn

[jade rover]

From practising on moving bots

[ruby iris]

Not enough, tbh, bsa just wouldnt allow it to consistently hit that hitbox, you would need to remove both mono and no stock and replace with bsa attachments to achieve that consistently

[jade rover]

At higher ranks when everyone slides around it’ll be less than 50% but over 35% imo

[ruby iris]

Less than 25%

From my practical test

Aka taking it to a ranked lobby

[rich arch]

@ruby iris this a good build?

[ruby iris]

Base 5hk significantly faster

[ruby iris]

👍

[rich arch]

I wouldn't use mono but is good

[jade rover]

Oh wait my build doesn’t have the buff

Either way don’t think recoil was changed

But then further range just means less consistent

[ruby iris]

Tl;dr: if you use 10mm on qq9, might as well use a better gun

[jade rover]

I’ll try it out on ranked now

I don’t have the buff theres no point

[wide sequoia]

@ruby iris gib meta gun build i need to whoop some ass in ranked

[wide sequoia]

hvgae 💀 meta?

[rich arch]

I need drh gun smith

[jade rover]

Is Jumper Cable worth it?

I can’t test but I’d have thought irons are more obstructive

[rich arch]

Help me?

I need drh gunsmith I am new

[jade rover]

^ @rich arch

[ruby iris]

Mono supp, tac laser, no stock, 25r otm, gran/ranger barrel

[wide sequoia]

3 shot nais

will try thenks bery moch

[jade rover]

What’s up with that flash

Normal skin is better no?

[jade rover]

Combat stock only saves one frame due to frame rounding. Definitely gran >>

[ruby iris]

Check pins

[jade rover]

Pins?

Oh

Then light stock I guess

One frame isn’t worth it to run combat

Or SoH

Actually neither: full ammo

The thing has barely any ammo at all

[ruby iris]

31ms

So 2 frames

[jade rover]

No it’s 218ms vs 249ms. 216.66666-233.33333ms is one frame. 218ms stops short of 233.33333ms-250ms, so it’s one frame not two.

[ruby iris]

Frames can round up, not just down

You get 2 frames trust

Been running hvk for 1.5 years

[jade rover]

But 60FPS is 60FPS

How can it round down, it always rounds up

[ruby iris]

It can

[jade rover]

It can round down?

If something has ADS time of 205ms, it rounds down to 200ms?

Or it rounds up to 216.66666ms

I would have thought it has to round up

[ruby iris]

200 iirc

[jade rover]

Hmm

I trust you but would like to see some numbers anyway so I can know what the threshold is

It doesn’t make sense but I trust you anyway lol

Unless cod actually changes the ADS time to fit to the nearest frame, it HAS to round up. Just in terms of how it would play out like a slideshow

[ripe prairie]

What would be the best fennec loadout

[jade rover]

^ @ripe prairie

I’d rather light stock out of those two

[ripe prairie]

OK thx

[marsh ice]

Chicom build

Pewwes

[ruby iris]

@jade rover

It can round up or down

[jade rover]

Hmm

I get the maths

But it’s saying there’s a probability distribution of whether say 205ms rounds up or down

[stray rapids]

@ruby iris no way bruh

A bot just got mvp in ny lobby

[jade rover]

This isn’t a normal probability distribution btw

It’s not like a bell curve

At least how he did the maths

Either way I don’t buy that it’s random whether or not a frame gets rounded up or down

What I’ve realised is this though:

Let’s say you and and somebody else are going to ADS, and you both have ADS time of 100ms

But let’s say he ADS’s 8ms faster than you

As in his reaction time etc

Well by the time you’ve finished ADS’ing, for 8ms, he will have already been ADS

Yet that doesn’t equal a frame

But from his perspective it doesn’t matter, it is you who is in frame limbo

The reality is the frame ordering must therefore be a global property. From the beginning of the game, it ticks off at a rate of 60FPS. And you will round your ADS time upwards a frame relative to the universal clock - this may mean you actually round down, because if you ADS in universal frame limbo, the system will register you as having ADS’ed at the beginning of the frame. You would round upwards based on the end time of your ADS relative to the universal clock. There must be a universal clock in order for there not to be an inconsistency here as mentioned in the ADS time example. It’s not special relativity, there has to be an absolute to resolve this.

It is then very straightforward to create a normal distribution of frame rounding, I’ll do it if I have time later for people to reference

@ruby iris

[uneven anchor]

Oh sht

@ruby iris get owned

[jade rover]

It isn’t him, it’s the other guy who did that document

[uneven anchor]

oh

[jade rover]

Big brain gang 😛 (kidding)

If you follow what I mean

[uneven anchor]

ngl hvk needs giga BSA

[jade rover]

You and BSA 💞

[ruby iris]

Nah, it just has squiggly recoil

[uneven anchor]

FR im addicted

[analog moss]

Nerd

[ruby iris]

Been using that build since before the bsa buff

[uneven anchor]

Ranger foregrip

[jade rover]

Hey if I can optimise then why not

[uneven anchor]

Yooo Ranger foregrip advocate??

[jade rover]

Ultimately though it’ll tend to round down if it is less than perfect frame limbo and up if it is more. That’s all there is to it. I can get the probabilities if needed

[analog moss]

@jade rover

[jade rover]

I changed gran for no stock

And works great

[analog moss]

Stop talking like a genius

You nerd

[jade rover]

I just talk like this

[analog moss]

Aint no way

[jade rover]

Yes way

[analog moss]

You studing quantum physics or sum?

[jade rover]

I did physics at university for a year before changing courses

[analog moss]

.

Pls dont use youe big brain while typing here

[jade rover]

Idk why that’s relevant

[analog moss]

My small brain not finna read all those words

[uneven anchor]

im too stupid im just a health studies major

[jade rover]

I’m not being patronising, that build wasn’t fast enough anyway

[analog moss]

…

Im dipping

Cya

Nerd

[jade rover]

As in, I recognise i was wrong, so how can I think so highly of myself as you see it

Okie ✌️

[uneven anchor]

btw BV stack on krig

[storm lance]

Quantum physics doesn't have anything in common with ballistic physics

Or even bv or bullet drop

[uneven anchor]

whats q physic

pls explain

[rich arch]

🤓
uh actually

[jade rover]

I didn’t bring that up

[storm lance]

You can use internet for that instead of playing games and it'll take you 6 minutes of reading not more

[storm lance]

Ik that he said that not you

[uneven anchor]

no

[jade rover]

I don’t know why there’s a whole deal over this

[uneven anchor]

[storm lance]

Tbh physics and math and chemistry are important and do have presence in firearms but not quantum physics

[rich arch]

reminds me newtons law of motions

[uneven anchor]

if gun do big number that mean gud, no math necassary

[storm lance]

Gravity was fun

[uneven anchor]

gun be stronk ooga booga

[storm lance]

Wind speed can effect the bv

[uneven anchor]

🤓

[rich arch]

einstein

[storm lance]

Damn those ppl had all the time to give us those rules and experiments

[uneven anchor]

only for me to say ooga booga

me like gun me like gun gun be strog

[rich arch]

me and my friends when at school cursing them
now we have to learn it for exam

[storm lance]

I used to laugh on my classmates cause they used to forget the rule of Einstein

[rich arch]

E = MC`2

[storm lance]

Over 12 more rules over alot of subjects

[rich arch]

idk i am now in business field now

[storm lance]

Like in chemistry the iupac

Tbh I'll not get back to the university times

[rich arch]

all i know abt chemistry is periodic table

[storm lance]

Cause I have alot of bad times trying to make my friends understand

[storm lance]

Ohh god

[rich arch]

i am going to sleep bye😇

[storm lance]

Bye

[jade rover]

Anyway gunsmith

Are there any Krigs with custom irons yet

[jade rover]

Yeah I know that one 😦

I wish I had it

But I mean any with better actual irons

[storm lance]

@jade rover use rds1

On krig

[jade rover]

Ofc but I’d rather it had good irons so was wondering if there’s anything custom yet

I think there’s a new Krig being released or something?

I seem to remember at least but might be wrong

[tired helm]

A dark matter for getting to level 200

[lean frost]

Dark matter has same iron sights as default

[jade rover]

Oh right

Whenever I don’t have the mythic I make the build have a tac scope so I don’t feel like I’m missing out on reds 😂

Gonna try a tac scope Krig now

[rich arch]

This isn't cold war

[versed marten]

سلام

[rich arch]

In Cold War people use 3x and 4x like a regular red dot

it's so weird

[storm lance]

We know that

[versed marten]

No anglish aran

[rich arch]

There is one coming in a crate in S1

Won’t be the best iron sights but better than default

[jade rover]

Yeah I thought there was

Do you have a pic @rich arch

[real crescent]

Hello and the #rules is use English only

[jade rover]

I just found it, Krig 6 Turquoise Griffin

[rich arch]

I don’t but you can find it on leakers yt channel

[jade rover]

The irons look good

From what I can see at least

[jade rover]

That’s so clean but I’m allergic to anime art for some reason 😣

[cinder tundra]

ak117 gunsmiths?

[uneven anchor]

you can also swap gran for extended light barrel

[jade rover]

I run this; people don’t seem to like it but I think the marksman barrel is amazing. RDS to tac supp if you want but then change to 40 round mag

[unreal gale]

I recommend you do that too actually

[uneven anchor]

why marksman tho

[unreal gale]

Nah ak117 is already very slow + very no recoil

[uneven anchor]

like based but yeah people hate marksman

never post marksman on #codm-gunsmith-builds

[unreal gale]

Well cbr runs it

So does bizon

[uneven anchor]

fk no

full strafe baby

[unreal gale]

Swap to tac supp marksman

I'd also swap the perk to disable

[faint ingot]

I just took off my perk and put a mag on my 117, seems to perform nicely now

[uneven anchor]

leg shot disable

[strange rivet]

^

[unreal gale]

Yes leg shot disable