💬-modding

[chilly adder]

@bright frost hello esteemed dudek i am combing through an old mod to fix it, what is the difference between materials.cs and materials.json

[bright frost]

Hoooooo boy

I'll need to know your context.

But to the best of my knowledge, materials.cs is old and outdated but I believe still works and is handled by the game fine and probably results in the game making a correct modern main.materials.json from that, and putting it in your user folder

Anyway, this has recently been updated and is actually useful

https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/materials/vehicle/typicalmaterials/

[bright frost]

Whatcha fixing

[chilly adder]

6 year old skinpack

alot of the things are broken, and the author quit messing with it years ago

[bright frost]

Hmm like paint slot based

?

I'm not a materials pro btw

Materials can be pain, especially working on something old instead of starting from scratch

But, if these are skins for vanilla vehicles, bringing them up to modern materials is almost guaranteed to be possible

Even if the actual material needs to be done again from scratch given the raw assets

I'm always happy to look at old mods to see how dead they really are, that's always more likely to get an actually useful consult

[chilly adder]

yeah

i was just gonna take the albedo and redo all the material files from scratch

[bright frost]

More like

Take the L, beedo

Sorry I'm on strong cough medicine

[humble hedge]

هل يوجد هنا عرب

[chilly adder]

lmao 😭😭

[chilly adder]

odd thing, if the file is named materials.json it only works for one skin, but if i rename it to skin.materials.json it works for both skins on the autobello. all the files are the same and the materials file only differs with the name of the skin

beamng 👍

[chilly adder]

@bright frost some of the skins have portions that go onto the glass, how would i do the equivalent with a json?

[bright frost]

https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/materials/vehicle/typicalmaterials/#transparent-materials

oh wait

you mean like a decal on the glass or a sun strip or whateer

Actually

that should cover it at that link

[chilly adder]

wont that mean i have to create a separate part for the glass?

its just one on my parts selector

[bright frost]

Uhhhh

See you might have started where I knew a little

but I think you've gotten into what I don't know

[chilly adder]

ah no worries

[bright frost]

https://github.com/StanleyDudek/CareerMP/releases/tag/v0.0.25

[chilly adder]

figured it out, had to add .skin.SKINNAME to the end of the part

[bright frost]

aw fuck I knew that

@errant yarrow knows about materials pain

[ruby badger]

@bright frost how do you load the rally systems? do you know how to use pacenotes from a driveline but not anything else?

[bright frost]

I do not!

Also I didn't get very far, I stopped while fighting a server disconnect issue

I was basically calling the same call the game does when you pick the rally loop from the main menu

I have to come back to it, it's pretty different from freeroam or career missions

[errant yarrow]

Oh no, I myself struggle with problems every time until I succeed 🤷‍♂️

[chilly adder]

so so real

[vestal flume]

is anyone here good at making maps if so dm need help on one thing

[ruby badger]

what do you need help with?

i don't think DMs are necessary for mapmaking questions

[vestal flume]

terain

[ruby badger]

you have to be more specific than that lol

[vestal flume]

just cant figure it out

[ruby badger]

figure what part about it out?

you can sculpt it and paint materials onto it here

[vestal flume]

ik i just cant get them to work idk what im doing wrong

[ruby badger]

what do you mean "to work"?

like, are you trying to create a new terrain block?

do the materials not work?

[tiny cosmos]

guys how do i disable the radial menu from my server or atleast disable the boost from the radial menu and also how do i get commands and likec ontroll my friends cars in my own server from bisect hosting

[worldly nova]

i need help im trying to play the norwegian back roads map on beammp with my friend but i havent been able to get it right anybody can help?

[honest pelican]

#🔎-before-you-ask

[worldly nova]

map file is named Resjemheia

i put that in but it doesnt work

[ruby badger]

use core_input_actionFilter or similar
functions in there are expensive so try to only use the functions when necessary

[red quiver]

Hey does anyone know how to set up a careermp Server paired with rls? I found a rls for careermp file but everytime i load in it tells me in the Tutorial that i have No Garage slots ( Cant Buy a car what so ever). When i Go to belasco Garage it doesnt Even have an ai and the other Garages i have to but them.

Pls help :‘(

[ruby badger]

are you using https://github.com/PapiCheesecake/rls_careermp too?

[bright frost]

womp womp https://github.com/StanleyDudek/CareerMP/releases/tag/v0.0.27

[ruby badger]

@tired turret hey, i have ss marriott on the rally server right now. i just got it on the server for the first test
do you still want to rally at some point?

oh god damnit all of the meshspline ones, the autogenerated fences, got deleted

[ruby badger]

@bright frost

[bright frost]

I'm so sad for you I hate when that happens

Level work can go poor in an instant

[ruby badger]

i love realigning 500 fence objects

because

mesh spline

is a joke

and does not align them to each other

@bright frost any idea how to fix the objects from a meshspline not aligning with themselves

the templates work fine it seems

ffs it was the rotation

i was so scared last time to edit the rotation cause the first time i tried it it caused a memory leak and killed the game

god i love mesh spline lmao

[bright frost]

Oh damn I never used that tool

[red quiver]

Yes this is exactly what i use but Like i Said i dont have Garage slots free at the beginning of the save

[haughty kraken]

Anyone interested in a proximity voice chat mod for BeamMP only? It's great for roleplay servers and I have developed one prototype myself from scratch, really a life saver for larger roleplay servers in BeamMP. I could publish a public version of it soon if anyone is interested.

[errant yarrow]

There is huge demand for this!

[haughty kraken]

I could polish it with a nice UI and some more options, also thinking of adding another seperare mod that allows for radio use, lets say in police scenarios, just like the ones in FiveM kinda!

[errant yarrow]

I personally would hate it because I don't agree to speak English around English speakers because it sounds funny...
But this would be legendary if there was such a thing

[haughty kraken]

Yeah personally I think it is a must feature for those who want it, would be pretty useful in most scenarios

[errant yarrow]

Is this an external installation?

[haughty kraken]

Nope! I made it work via just the BeamMP resource folder so no external installation needed. There are some steps to
set it up at the moment but they all can be made into a drag and drop system and just set it up
via commands from the panel

It was kind of hard to get the mod to detect your microphone that way but I made it work

[errant yarrow]

Is everything written in Lua?

Or JS?

Or vue?

[haughty kraken]

Only the voice system is JS rest is Lua

Like the player position tracking and the distance tracking and all that is Lua

Also it sends the data

[marble zephyr]

Hello @haughty kraken, I'll send you a message

[unborn axle]

i have a mod in

mods\unpacked\bascic_server_client_comunication\art\shapes\BORDER\

whenever i have the main.materials.json file in this dir
the prop says "no material"

[errant yarrow]

📢
You can't imagine the magnitude of this news
Many have tried and failed

[haughty kraken]

Well yeah I know that, I did deep deep research on this a while ago and found some mods kinda like this but deleted. I have done coding for 8 years now and I am very skilled at almost every coding language there is, I am a server developer, a modder and a game indie dev at the same time which I find as an very great accomplishment of mine!

[errant yarrow]

What do you need to publish it?

[haughty kraken]

I will polish the UI of the mod that allows you to change different settings and optimize the code really, also I will make the configs way easier to adjust for users, stuff like how far you can be heard and so on. I might release it by the end of this week to be honest.

[errant yarrow]

Maybe you should submit a pull request to the BeamMP GitHub repository, That way it can be added directly to BeamMP and everyone can use it without needing a client mod
I'm not in a position to request something like this, but if someone who is sees this, it would be great to consider the chances of it actually being accepted

[bright frost]

@haughty kraken you're the third this week on about voice chat, please do provide a working proof of concept, we already have one person proposed PRs and another that apparently will do the same soon, so a third option to look at will be sick

[haughty kraken]

I would be more than happy to
do that since I am one of the few who managed to get it working without third party services like external apps and websites

[bright frost]

The less requirements to reach functionality the better

[spare birch]

I personally would love to see some sort of proper implementation of proximity voice, provided it can be done safely and within the framework

[haughty kraken]

Also the code is very minimal and very well optimized

[bright frost]

Can't wait to see a demo

[haughty kraken]

I will provide one soon enough :)

[haughty kraken]

Also I am working on my own framework for BeamMP that includes things like shops, an inventory system, OSX_target like system from FiveM, garages, jobs and a lot more. Once completely finished should I release the framework free to use or just keep it in my own server?

[errant yarrow]

Do what you want
I personally have released my mods open source but some server owners keep it to themselves

[haughty kraken]

Yeah, I usually release everything because I usually make stuff others haven't done and I'm in need of so yeah

[errant yarrow]

I'm curious to know what other things you've created

[haughty kraken]

Well a lot but do you mean like in general or just BeamMP related?

[errant yarrow]

Things you were the first to succeed at

[stable pebble]

Been working on a touge game mode lately but trying to get distance from one car to another along the track instead of a straight line distance is very very annoying

Only way I could think of doing it is making checkpoints every 10 meters or so, then organize them in order and compare how many checkpoints they've been through

[bright frost]

Curious problem to attack, would it possibly be worth looking into ai debug, where if you turn on the visualizations, you can see how the vehicle is predicting along the road spline to make assessments?

And then focus on how it knows about the road spline

[stable pebble]

That would be a great idea if I knew how to access it lol

I tried doing spline stuff but it didn't work too well, might just be my implementation of it

[stable pebble]

It might not even have an AI spline since it's a 3rd party map

[stable pebble]

But i will give it a shot :D I got it mostly working but after you go through the first checkpoint the gap distance just bugs out lol

[bright frost]

There should definitely be a way

you could possibly

do

[stable pebble]

Oh i know there's a way, there's a flood server that does it

[bright frost]

regular GPS route calculations to the target vehicle

the return of which should be distance along road

[stable pebble]

That might work pretty well

I'll have to give it a shot, sucks that I can't debug it alone though, gonna have to buy beamng on a second steam account to debug it by myself lol

[bright frost]

Wait hold up

[bright frost]

I own one copy and run it on all my computers

[stable pebble]

Oh in guest mode?

Since beammp doesn't technically launch through steam?

[bright frost]

So, for BeamMP, steam doesn't have to enter the picture at all

Like, sure use it to install the game

[stable pebble]

That makes sense!

[bright frost]

But steam doesn't have to be running

[stable pebble]

I will download it on my ally or something

[bright frost]

And then you can connect as many clients as you have devices

I do this regularly in my house to test

[stable pebble]

Thank you for the ideas :D now I just gotta figure out how to hook to them and all that

[bright frost]

My PC, my laptop, my son's laptop, the living room pc, etc

Anyway yes, come back when you have questions or hit any trouble

Happy to help always

[stable pebble]

Got it all working other than that pesky gap distance lol

[stable pebble]

think i got gap distance working :)

[haughty kraken]

I need to re-texture a part of my servers map, which app could I do that with?

[ruby badger]

why does it repeat the same tag list?

[stable pebble]

No troubles, got it all working great other than when someone goes backwards a few guide checkpoints then it bugs a tiny bit but it's all working great, gonna use this as a base for a racing game mode now

[ruby badger]

this bug is new to using just a function's return value to iterate through in the ng-repeat attribute

was previously this (works as intended... i think)

[stable pebble]

Looks good to me, next is setting up a UI for multiple racers and their positions/ timings

[bright frost]

https://github.com/StanleyDudek/CareerMP/releases/tag/v0.0.28

New abilities unlocked

I need to expand my readme again

There are new commands

CareerMP Help
and
CareerMP Update

Big test is when I release 0.0.29 and see if everyone auto updates

[ruby badger]

@visual spade I suggest more tags & a more standardized naming system for them. Right now we don't have a Career tag, so CareerMP servers are kind of stuck without a good tag to use. There are also two tags for Rally lmao. Also, servers can't add their own custom tags, so it limits more custom experiences a lot.
The first attached image has the current set of tags to use

I propose a new set of tags, that takes inspiration from the existing one:

Disclaimers

• Disclaimer:Mature/18+
• This could use expansion

Gameplay

May want to consider custom tag support under this category?

• Gameplay:Freeroam
• Gameplay:Career
• Gameplay:Roleplay
• Gameplay:Motorsports
• Gameplay:Custom

Motorsports Categories

• Motorsports:Motorsports (general/other)
• Motorsports:Track
• Motorsports:NASCAR
• Motorsports:Drag Racing
• Motorsports:Rally
• Motorsports:Dakar
• Motorsports:Drifting
• Motorsports:Togue
• Motorsports:Destruction

Motorsports - Off-road

• Offroad:Offroad (general/other)
• Offroad:Rock Crawling
• This may need expansion

Climate

Road surfaces

• Surface:Asphalt
• Surface:Dirt
• Surface:Mud
• Surface:Ice
• Surface:Rain

Weather

• Weather:Time Cycle (rename?)
• Weather:Night
• Weather:Natural Disaster (debatable?)
• May need more

Gamemode

May want to consider custom tag support under this category?

• Gamemode:Derby (rename to Demolition Derby?)
• Gamemode:Infection
• Gamemode:Cops-Robbers
• Gamemode:Sumo
• Gamemode:Chases
• This could use expansion

Gameplay Features

• Features:Delivery
• Features:Economy
• Features:Trading
• Features:Missions
• Features:Leaderboards
• Features:Events
• This may need expansion

Mods

This really needs custom tag support.

• Mods:Modded (general/catch-all)
• Mods:BeamPaint
• Mods:BeamJoy
• Mods:CEI
• Mods:CareerMP

Languages

Keep as-is but maybe add more languages on top of what already exists?

Other

• Vanilla
• Unmoderated
• Moderated
• Development (Rename to Work-In-Progress?)

In my updated server list UI, I plan to make tags a much bigger deal. They're displayed in the details of a server, and in the same menu, I plan to make them add to your search filter when clicked

the categorized ones also have icons now :DDDD

[bright frost]

@ruby badger here's my hope with tags

As much as possible I'd LOVE for people to get all the custom (and sometimes spammy) tags out of their server NAMES

[ruby badger]

GENIUS idea

but then we may want a "featured tag" system because players still need to click on a server to see the tags

thing is, most players want to be fed what they want with minimal work
so clicking through servers looking at tags would be annoying and bad for ux

[bright frost]

I agree, but there has to be some balance

Yeah, it's heavy opinion

But

IDK, nothing mandatory, just the encouragement

As in, I think it definitely is classier to have a succinct server name and use the tags for true filtering, not searching for tags in server names

[ruby badger]

maybe I could move some of the filter settings out of the popup so its faster

or make the whole pop-up a drop down

oh you know

I already stole the vue ui layout for the top

I could just put search filters on a right aligned section of it's own

like vehicle selector or gameplay selector

that would help make tags a more visible feature too

[rough citrus]

im trying to create a local test server for my mod, trying to go to "https://beammp.com/keymaster" will result into a 404 and going to "https://keymaster.beammp.com" straight up gets me blocked by Cloudflare

[honest pelican]

Currently Keymaster is not online. At this time, you'll simply need to run your servers as private (with something random in the Auth Key field) and provide your friends with the Direct Connect info (IP address & port) to join. See #beammp-updates message for some frequently asked questions.

[raven gale]

can anyone tell me why a car ive got works fine in offline but when put into a server it doesnt drive or anything? cant figure it out

[bright frost]

What mod

[ruby badger]

@bright frost turns out this is a lot more difficult than expected because i also need the $$mdSelectId of the tag for the search filter popup ui

and that is generated by angular when the tags dropdown is created

k so

it works but is a little laggy to visually appear in the search ui section

and also doesnt work for the popup dropdown

[bright frost]

Ah damn

I just realized the tags show on the website server list too

[ruby badger]

lmao

[bright frost]

[ruby badger]

time to just not use the drop-down pop-up LMAO

[ruby badger]

that feeling when you know enough about beamng cef ui that you can significantly change the layout in like 3 attempts

[ruby badger]

i havent been working on that since i sent this message btw lmao

this is like 5-6m of work

[bright frost]

New paradigms waiting to unfold to the RIGHT of the server list

Everyone's eye's muscle memory about to struggle

[ruby badger]

mine already is lmao

but everything in the server list IS closer together

also i realize i made that outside of the servers.partial.html

[bright frost]

Wait until I throw this bad boy on my 5120x1440

[ruby badger]

hopefully i can just throw fire at the js and itll crosstalk across html files

[ruby badger]

the bottom overflow is so bad 😭

[ruby badger]

anything wider than this just gives up on the bottom margins

[bright frost]

Add stroke until you just can't see it

[ruby badger]

?

[bright frost]

That's a joke

And a bad one

Because I'm not a web guy

[ruby badger]

oh interesting

a lot of this search filter stuff is actually not really servers.partial.html specific

i think...

(i hope)

[ruby badger]

COPY PASTE LOOKS GOOD WTF 😭😭😭😭

search bar does nothing lmao

ye ok they dont work

but it looks nice 👍

[bright frost]

Interesting

[ruby badger]

god damnit the server list related code is in the server list controller

[ruby badger]

ooh, new error unlocked

[bright frost]

That's so grody

[ruby badger]

tbh i might exclude the tag addition stuff because i basically have to refactor the entire search system so that it can be used by both controllers

[bright frost]

I mean that makes sense

[ruby badger]

almost like, god forbid, 6 year or, unfortunately, potentially, 7 year old ui isnt so good for modern times

[ruby badger]

ok this is kind of silly

i made onScroll be async

it does help scrolling through the list a lot

still a lot of input lag but what can you do

[ruby badger]

I plan to make them add to your search filter when clicked
I think this needs the filters popup to not use dropdowns, which basically means the menu needs to be redone, but if I was to do that, I should change the overall layout to match other Vue-based UIs that have search filters. But that does not conform to the existing html/angular-controller layout

[green ice]

you should make a tag for anarchy too

[ruby badger]

i think unmoderated fills that role
can you give me some examples where that would be more descriptive than some combination of tags i listed?

[green ice]

not that i can think of no

[ruby badger]

Racing:Rally
Gamemode:Rally
💔

imo there should be a clear use case for the tags

[green ice]

idk im kind of dumb rn my mind is numb

since two days ago

[ruby badger]

e.g. Gameplay:Motorsports and Motorsports:Drag Racing for example

[ruby badger]

for me 3 days lmao

[twin stratus]

Who wants these features on their server?

1. **Reconnect **when server crashes/restarts
2. In game server list***** (optional, read below)
3. Welcome screen with images and text (optional, requires basic HTML and CSS)

To release this publicly I have a bit of work, so I'm gauging interest.

DEMO
🟢 Sky Derby UK: 185.56.161.19:27992
Hover over leaderboard during game round

[honest pelican]

Currently Keymaster is not online. At this time, you'll simply need to run your servers as private (with something random in the Auth Key field) and provide your friends with the Direct Connect info (IP address & port) to join. See #beammp-updates message for some frequently asked questions.

[zealous valve]

Will be testing this later, need something like this!

[visual spade]

Why not just contribute on the project as a whole?

[visual spade]

Oh this is looking so good!

[twin stratus]

I may do so in the future. Do we have any rough idea when keymaster will be onine?

[velvet charm]

About 30 minutes ago

[ruby badger]

The search filters panel on the right is cut for now because to make it compatible with having the server list as a separate HTML file and Angular controller would require redoing a lot of the search filters system, which I am not interested in doing

so the search filters remain in a popup and the search bar is once again next to the refresh button

[stable pebble]

made a UI for my flood server too :D

cleaned it up a bit

[karmic pecan]

Make the grey texts a bit brighter

Otherwise it looks very good

[stable pebble]

Fixed it not being readable and fixed the sectors text being in the wrong DIV lol, also added a PB leaderboard for the server

[ruby badger]

i feel like this server list as-is is overwhelming because of how community servers style their server names. do you guys have an idea on how to improve this?

[ruby badger]

apparently the backend allows 3 different rally tags...

🥀

i need to add match some/match all

[violet frigate]

You can put whatever

Why you have 3 different icons for rally?

[ruby badger]

you actually can't, the backend does sanitize the tag list somewhat

[ruby badger]

why are there three options for rally for servers to add

Rally, Gamemode:Rally, Racing:Rally

[violet frigate]

I was certain it didnt my bad. Where can you get the list of all tags it accepts?

[ruby badger]

https://docs.beammp.com/server/server-maintenance/#customize-your-server-tags has some of them but apparently it accepts "Rally" too so now im not sure

[ruby badger]

Match some filters mode is now working and is in use by default

sob i didnt even get to uselessly report it to discord

[zealous valve]

Sort it? Its often bugged me that if I don't start my servers in alpha/numrrical order, or have to restart one of them, they dont look nice in the server list, and if someone else adds a server at th same time as me, they are mixed in...

[ruby badger]

they were being sorted to some degree early when authkeys came back

[ruby badger]

oh neat idea

we could do something like parse bngIcon_<iconname> into bng icons from the font

in the description/name of the server

also can i add bng orange as a color

actually better idea

instead of using whatever terminal color palette it uses (i forgot the name 😭) what if we use the bng-add-<color>-500 set

[ruby badger]

@bright frost how do i get the text content while processing a token? my brain stopped working

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-gif-5581811196247542206

[bright frost]

[karmic pecan]

A new Patate?

[ruby badger]

@bright frost

I DID IT

[bright frost]

You really did

[ruby badger]

its hacky af but it WORKS

[bright frost]

It's fine

Honestly pretty in line with everything else

[ruby badger]

icons arent designed to be that small but idc atp

[bright frost]

What if you mess with UI scaling again

[ruby badger]

i wonder how this looks on the release build of the mod lmao

[spare birch]

clickable links in server descriptions?

[bright frost]

Do they get

crunchy

[ruby badger]

this i want to discuss with the beammp devs first because it is possible but idk if they want that for security

[spare birch]

legitimate concern. maybe there's a way to whitelist domains?

[ruby badger]

they already do

[bright frost]

Client should have access to BeamMP whitelisted domains, I believe

Launcher opens them

Yeah

[ruby badger]

looks surprisingly good

holy dinosaur ui

[spare birch]

and thus the rabbit hole gets deeper

[ruby badger]

it doesnt format the other existing codes

so this is not my problem

[bright frost]

Just sharing for comic relief

[wanton walrus]

JW do my friend who wanna join my server need to download the map mod ahead

for exmaple I wanna use a spealer map

When they try it says they are missing the map

[stable pebble]

Is the map zip in the client folder of the server? Works fine for my server

[stable pebble]

added a small QOL to the UI lol

[velvet meteor]

Does someone need an idea for a car to model? Cuz I got one hell of a choice

[leaden oar]

Hey I made an advanced external mod manager for BeamNG Drive, if anyone is interested let me know. Released alpha version to the public today.

Its called BeamNG Mod Manager Pro

I dont have image permissions to share screenshots unfortunately.

[bright frost]

Can you link to it

[leaden oar]

To the mod or to images? Links are allowed?

[hardy merlin]

To the mod manager really, i guess your page has images right?

[leaden oar]

Yeah lol. I'll leave the link here.

I'll have to forewarn y'all as it's already caused issues, the GitHub description was GPT written because I didn't have time before work to hand make the description and wanted to get a release out. If y'all can get passed that, here's the program.

[leaden oar]

I tried to post the link but was timed out and had to go back to work.

ouch

lol

[leaden oar]

I guess maybe I misunderstood your post

[hardy merlin]

Oh, yes you need the media enabled role

[merry flume]

You need to reach level 2, level up by chatting around

[leaden oar]

Ah fair enough

Dang wait thats a pretty cool system actually. Role perms plus chat reqs. Smart.

[worn ravine]

Switching to PySide6 was definitely worth the recoding time.

For those who don't know:
This is my program, BeamSkin Studio, made for skin modding. Its purpose is to speed up skin modding by doing all the file editing for you.

I'm unsure if I am allowed to share the link to it here, but it's available on GitHub and it's also posted on BeamNG's DCS modding thread "showcase-your-mods."

[hardy merlin]

The video is so pixelated that i have no idea what im seeing sorry

You can totally share the link here

[stable pebble]

added a progression bar and changed the positions to show progress through the current race instead of checkpoint based

[fossil sandal]

car

[stable pebble]

oooo nice :D

just a small video of how the flow of the gamemode starts

[worn ravine]

It's shows the rendering difference/loading time when switching to the car list tab, i was unable to post the link. Got "server has rate limited link"

[hardy merlin]

https://beamskin-studio.github.io/BeamSkin-Studio-Beta/

[worn ravine]

Thank you🙏😅

[hardy merlin]

Thank you LoL

I give it a look later!

[worn ravine]

Awesome😊

just a small note:
the current available version is on CustomTkinter, not PySide6. The PySide6 switch will come in version 0.8.0.Beta.

Here's a video I did recently, talking about the PySide6 migration 😄 https://youtu.be/b9bhjc8zTok

[plucky prawn]

Boblox car

[jagged oyster]

Hey wondering if there a mod for beammp for the drag strip likes to work or make drag strip to work ?

[rigid breach]

@mossy portal WWhat server are u

[mossy portal]

a bisect

[rigid breach]

Ah

Alright...

[ashen lynx]

lol

[stable pebble]

Thank you Dudekahedron for the baseline simpleMOTD mod :D

[bright frost]

hey nice

[bright frost]

I'm going to plug @errant yarrow 's https://github.com/5DROR5/ServerWelcome just to keep it paid forward

the more motd the better, I am sure

https://github.com/StanleyDudek/CareerMP/releases/tag/v0.0.31

I made improvements (hopefully) to the tendency for players to sequence break in garages and end up duplicating vehicles

[spare birch]

so i've noticed some servers have a nametag option, like the Scenic Route servers. I was wondering if there was any publicly available mod that could add that functionality to a server or if it's proprietary/exclusive?

[stable pebble]

added the simpleMOTD to the touge server too :) tried the other server welcome mod but it borked some stuff on my layouts so i will come back to it at a later time

[stable pebble]

figured it out pretty quick, they both look good tho

[fringe marsh]

there's this but it doesnt work for me: https://github.com/Neptnium/BeamMP-Nick

not sure about it, it was updated 3 days ago, but it shows the warning when I load into the server, and it doesnt seem to work

maybe @prisma grove knows more

[prisma grove]

Its the way i use the extension load, i guess i need to change it, tho normally it should still work

Like its an error that pops but it still works, so idk

[fringe marsh]

sry maybe it works, I didnt really test it with another person 😄 the warning kinda confused me

[prisma grove]

Oh okay

Yeah, you need the server and client mod

[fringe marsh]

sorry, I tried it and then did something else and didnt really try it further 🙂

[prisma grove]

Nah, its okay, ur good

[fringe marsh]

I thought this is the mod the scenic servers use, but it isnt

[prisma grove]

Happy to see my thing used

[prisma grove]

I have no idea at all

[fringe marsh]

there you provide a nickname when you join and it shows next to your guestXXX nick, even in the player list

[prisma grove]

its a simple thing tbh, was done in like 20 mins +- 10mins for debug

[fringe marsh]

but yours maybe is good enough, I'd need to test it with some players later on. or @spare birch

[prisma grove]

Oh okay, yeah its not that at all, they probably use a moddified version of beammp server too like BeamSharp does

[fringe marsh]

Arkiv, you can join my server if you wanna test it.. I'll leave my beammp running in the background while still at work. its on my "bemp unoficial servre 1" , I did /nick hello

[prisma grove]

@fringe marsh send you a quick dm, can you check ?

[prisma grove]

Also please spawn a car :D

[fringe marsh]

yeah I did

both things

[prisma grove]

Good <3

[stable pebble]

reading through that server welcome mod let me figure out how to send a custom layout to my clients, can auto add the hud and the race countdown mod and set their locations and sizes automatically, neat

[fringe marsh]

this is kinda nice. in playerlist and chat we're still guests but at least with this you can tell which car is who 🙂 feels a little like good ol beammp

[bright frost]

This is the good stuff, glad you hit on custom layout application

[fringe marsh]

is it a lot of work to get rid of the deprecated warning? I'd like to put this on some of my servers in the evening .. it feels like its not a lot of work but I have no idea how to do it

-# feels like something dudekahedron could write on his smartphone in 3 minutes

[prisma grove]

Was the goal, you could technicly change it in the chat and that would be a good idea btw, ill be adding that later !
But playerlist, as far as i'm aware is not in the lua api

[prisma grove]

Its probably 2 seconds tbh

[bright frost]

https://github.com/Neptnium/BeamMP-Nick/blob/main/client/scripts/nick/modScript.lua

all this needs to do is change to

load('nick')
setExtensionUnloadMode('nick', 'manual')

warning will be resolved

[prisma grove]

Well you see 😅
I never looked at the new way of doing it

[fringe marsh]

chat would be awesome to have, and thanks for that @bright frost

[bright frost]

Now you have the knowledge so!

[prisma grove]

It was changed on the repo, tho i did not remake a new zip, will do that when I come back home later

[fringe marsh]

no worries, thanks

[hardy merlin]

Thats almost right! Remove the line with load() and its good!

Its a misconception todo that that kind of carried around the whole community

[bright frost]

well then, I also learn something new, I'll go remove that from all my projects

[bright frost]

Does this have any negative effects, then?

[plucky prawn]

gtk

[hardy merlin]

load converts a given string to lua bytecode and executes it local result = load("1 + 1") --> result = 2 load("print(123)")

local code = [[
local M = {}
M.myFunction = function()
  -- ...
end

return M
]]
local my_table = load(code) --> table from code

So doing load("nick") will do exactly nothing but fail

[bright frost]

lmao

incredible

[hardy merlin]

Hey its fine. even danielw whoes now a game dev had this misconception in their example mod

But is a dope tool to have in the box when you want to load custom code without using require

[velvet charm]

hm https://github.com/BeamMP/BeamMP/blob/development/scripts/BeamMP/modScript.lua#L25-L75

[hardy merlin]

Yep we are doing that as well

[velvet charm]

well it doesnt throw any errors sooo

[hardy merlin]

Is why no one ever noticed

And then NS was at some time like "are you guys stupid"

[prisma grove]

@hardy merlin so i only need to use
setExtensionUnloadMode("extension", "manual")

[hardy merlin]

Yes!

[prisma grove]

Okay thanks

But the function name is so missleading

setExtensionUnloadMode

...

[hardy merlin]

I cant even tell you what exactly it does when you tell it to be "automatic"

[prisma grove]

Okay

well thanks still

ill look into it later on

[hardy merlin]

Actually load returns value, error

local value, err = load(...)

So similiar to how you can encase require local is_ok, value = pcall(require, "lib") you can encase load

local code = [[
return function()
  print(123)
end
]]

local value, err = load(code)
if err then
  print(err) -- will say eg "Unexpected char at X" .. your usual lua compilation error
  return
end

local is_ok, value = pcall(value)
if not is_ok then
  print(value) -- value is the error now. if the codes execution failed will say like "cannot concatenate string with nil" just like any other lua error
end

So if you wanted to design a payload system, tixx has done that before, thats a way

[stable pebble]

Yess the less that the client has to do to be setup correctly, the better it is, gonna work on adding the same to the flood mod tonight

[ruby badger]

its supposed to automatically unload when a mission ends

and gets unloaded after a Lua reload too

[stable pebble]

Hmm my server keeps hard crashing randomly, nothing in the logs either

[bright frost]

They're simply unstable

Not your fault

[stable pebble]

Ah is it something with the new server code? I may have to use your server watchdog

[bright frost]

3.9.0 is more stable but "vulnerable"

We are internally getting a much more stable server working

If you just need it to come back up when it does crash, yeah pick whatever solution works

[stable pebble]

Gotcha that makes sense, I'll probably either use your watchdog or do a powershell script that brings it back up of the PID disappears

[bright frost]

That's a fun one, essentially the same as I wrote it in 2020

batch with color wooooo

It's effective though lmao

Most of the batch file actually is color handling

[stable pebble]

Lol if it works it works, I've used some really jank code 😅 🤣

Setup discord -> in-game link for chatting with a discord bot and some lua

[ruby badger]

as dudek said you can downgrade to 3.9.0. you'll want to enable ImScaredOfUpdates OR set the update reminder timer to more than 30s so that the console isnt completely full of "please update! youre out of date!" messages

[spare birch]

so i've been trying to get @errant yarrow 's serverwelcome mod working, and was wondering if anyone figured out a way to make it so it doesn't rearrange your UI

[stable pebble]

I figured it out

[spare birch]

i'm not a fan of mods/servers that reorganize the UI layout i have so meticulously set up

[bright frost]

@stable pebble OR you can grab one of these if you are on Linux

https://github.com/lionkor/BeamMP-Server/actions/runs/24639351839#artifacts

These are currently the most stable

It could probably be built for windows but wasn't on that run

[stable pebble]

Gotta change it so it changes your layout back to the one you were using before it swaps to the welcome layout, might have to get what the name of the layout is in Lua then set the layout back to what it grabbed before it changed to the welcome layout

Because as it is it only swaps to the welcome layout and not back once you hit the accept button or close button

[spare birch]

i'm a total noob to this kind of thing. I may just not use it if i can't figure it out.

[stable pebble]

I can post a fixed version once I'm home

[bright frost]

5DROR5 would probably accept a PR on it too

[spare birch]

smashes a bunch of stuff

i should have never even tried, now everything's broken and i gotta start over.

:/

[stable pebble]

Just change your layout back to multi-player instead of welcome

[spare birch]

oh it's more than that

i'm trying to get the /nick thing working too, but I really messed up something else on my server somehow

i can't tab into my car

this might take a while.

it's one of the two if not both that's messing things up, i just removed all components of both and it's back to normal behaviour

[stable pebble]

Weird

[spare birch]

now for troubleshooting!

[stable pebble]

I ran into issues myself when I first added the server welcome mod but figured out how to reset it to the multi-player layout once it closes

[spare birch]

i mean ultimately i don't need the welcome, i would just like people to know they can change their nick

[stable pebble]

Yeah i needed it to explain how to join the flood / touge

[spare birch]

which is what i think may fix it, but i think the nick mod is also getting in the way

[stable pebble]

I'll take a look at both when I get home for sure, I'll update the welcome mod to pull your active layout name before changing it to welcome layout, then once you close / accept it'll swap back to whatever layout you were using

[spare birch]

that would be awesome

[stable pebble]

Oh shit it's the man himself

[spare birch]

ok so it's the nick script that prevents me from spawning in my car, the car spawns but i stay in freecam and can't tab into my car

and if the nick script doesn't work, then there's no need for the motd script

... i am almost ready to give up

i just want names!

[stable pebble]

Hmm weird maybe it thinks you don't own the car since you have a different name

[spare birch]

i didn't change names before spawning the car

[stable pebble]

Oh huh, got a link for the nickname code?

[spare birch]

https://github.com/Neptnium/BeamMP-Nick

[stable pebble]

@spare birch this might fix it, unsure though

[spare birch]

it fixed getting in the car, but i'm not sure if the mod actually works without someone else to test it

thanks @stable pebble !

[stable pebble]

Not a problem 👌 happy to help

I'll look into the welcome thing once I get home it'll be a bit more complex

[stable pebble]

Finally home, gonna dig into the welcome mod

[stable pebble]

looks like the layout gets set to Multiplayer no matter what upon joining so no way to fetch the last used layout sadly

but i can fix it to switch back to Multiplayer or a custom layout if needed

this seems to be the correct method to set it back to multiplayer upon closing or accepting the MOTD

drop that in client and it will set it back to Multiplayer layout upon closing/accepting

this is all I modified in app.js

        overlay.className = 'sw-overlay';
        modal.className   = 'sw-modal';
        try {
          bngApi.engineLua("core_gamestate.setGameState('multiplayer', 'multiplayer', 'multiplayer')");
        } catch(e) {}
      }```

[spare birch]

bro. BRO. @stable pebble you are a miracle worker! THANK YOU so very much! it works it works it works!

[stable pebble]

Not a problem, unfortunately couldn't cache the last used layout but Multiplayer layout should be fine for servers without custom hud apps :)

[spare birch]

indeed, i would think that 99% of players have a "multiplayer" ui layout they like

no custom huds or anything over here, i just wanted to let people know they can set nametags

you freakin rock.

[stable pebble]

Not a problem at all, simple fix :)

[spare birch]

this community, man.

❤️

[stable pebble]

now to debug my race countdown on the flood server XD one bug after another

[stable pebble]

Ignore my terrible driving just got it all patched up :D

[final forum]

so its been awhile since I started new map variants, everytime I load a fresh version of any map to edit JohnsonValley > New Map v1 it just resorts to loading westcoast.

What did i f*** up

[ruby badger]

that is from world editor, file, new level
right?

[final forum]

negative, last time I made a map from base maps was v28 of beamng.

So following the same pixelmonkey guide I did than, that was what I followed

Video im talking about

[ruby badger]

v.27? is that trying to say 0.27?

[final forum]

yes, figured most would get the missing part as a zero too

[hardy merlin]

Yeah like how you .5 to say a half

[final forum]

½

i prefer that for half :p

[ruby badger]

1/2

is also fine for me

[final forum]

anyway, i copied the files from the folder in my C drive, moved a version and renamed all aspects, removed unneeded stuff, added personal models such as signs, course markers, and then repacked to test in game. unpacked it wasnt showing as a mod at all

[ruby badger]

that is unnecessary if you just want your own level to start with

[ruby badger]

this menu lets you pick a level name in your userfolder levels/ folder and uses it for your map

it spawns you on a template map

but to copy assets from other maps you can copy them like normal and then use the asset deduplicator so that they link back to the original map, to massively save on filesize

[ruby badger]

is the unpacked mod under the mods/unpacked/ folder? is the mod itself structured like (modname)/levels/(level name)/ ?

[final forum]

\current\mods\unpacked for unpacked and active editing ingame

\current\mods\repo for when its packed to test

[ruby badger]

you don't need to put it in the repo folder

you can put it just in the mods/ folder as a zip

[final forum]

it wasnt detecting it i reformatted my computer 3 times this weekend to fix audio problems so normally it would be under a new folder called edits

[ruby badger]

I don't know your setup

and your setup is not relevant here

[final forum]

im following your suggestiosn rn, thats the delay in replies

deleting/renaming to match your input

[final forum]

but per this, ive never started via template. never found a guide that explained it well enough for me to get a functional map

[ruby badger]

I dont know your definition of a functional map

[final forum]

meaning it loads like any basegame map

[ruby badger]

you load the map unpacked right?

you can do that

[final forum]

yes, unpacked however, it shows the levels folder and it isnt identified as a map. would screenshots of the mod menu ingame and the map selections help?

[ruby badger]

do you have an info.json for your map

have you checked the beamng console in case of any errors

[final forum]

i forgot the console part, always do, reading it now,
but yes, the info.json has all original map parts renamed

[ruby badger]

make sure your spawnpoints are valid

just keep one and setup spawn point for testing until later when there's actual stuff of your own in the map

[final forum]

oh the spawns are for sure, loading the map via editor everything shows up properly, but when loading as a map from freeroam it reverts to westcoast as shown

[ruby badger]

reverting to west coast may be because the freeroam configurator cant spawn you on the custom map so it falls back to some previous setting?

[final forum]

i could be wrong i did check the spawn settings and options, they looked fine at first glance

[ruby badger]

well I dont know your map so I can't help you there

but just read the console for errors or warnings, it'll tell you when something goes wrong a lot of the time

[final forum]

ill probably be back in abit, im reading each line of the info.json rn

thanks ❤️

[prisma grove]

If you are using debian 12 I can give you a more stable build or if you want and know how to build yourself, you can just fork from my pr which quickly fixes the crashes (https://github.com/BeamMP/BeamMP-Server/pull/484)

Or even best, download from the artifacts of the CI: https://github.com/BeamMP/BeamMP-Server/actions/runs/24283082766

[bright frost]

@stable pebble I gave you bad info yesterday, if you want the most stable current version of 3.9.2 for windows, it's right here: https://github.com/lionkor/BeamMP-Server/actions/runs/24639351841

[stable pebble]

Awesome i will test it out once I'm home again lol

Just happy my gamemode works and no Lua errors lol

[bright frost]

Always a good feeling

I got bus destination signs synced no errors 💪

[stable pebble]

Oooo that's freaking awesome

Guessing I'll have to compile the server from the source

[bright frost]

Ah, no, I linked you to a results of a run where you can download an already built windows exe

@stable pebble, sorry I missed your message

[stable pebble]

All good 👌 will be testing this tonight

[spare birch]

this dewf guy is awesome, btw

[stable pebble]

Oh that's freaking sweeeeeet

[stuck steppe]

[json.exception.type_error.305] cannot use operator[] with a string argument with number

can someone help me im so confused

[honest pelican]

#🔎-before-you-ask

[errant yarrow]

Custom usernames applied to player nametags in chat and the player list
persisted across sessions
https://github.com/5DROR5/beammp-auth-bridge

[bright frost]

Another 5DROR5 banger !

@stable pebble get a load of this

[stable pebble]

I thought about doing the same thing 😆 🤣

Was just gonna do it based on IP though, this is way cooler

The chat box in that video looks clean too

[bright frost]

That's available for you in multiplayer options, you can toggle this UI (basically a css switch)

ALSO made by 5DROR5 I should add

[errant yarrow]

Following your feedback on one of my other mods, I've set the app layout to automatically reset to the multiplayer layout upon authentication

[bright frost]

Didn't even need the PR

[stable pebble]

Hell yeah! It's pretty simple one line of code to do too

[bright frost]

[stable pebble]

I posted the edit last night in here lol

Fixed the nickname mod too

But now that is outdated with this login mod lol

Love when cool shit gets made though, once I clean up my flood gamemode I'll probably release it public with a huge instruction list to tell them how to make it work on almost any map lol

Gotta set checkpoints, start points, then start a recording and go through the race cleanly to set the routing points for the percentage through the race to compare to, default start level of the water and reset limit height for the water

[bright frost]

User programmable is sicko mode

[stable pebble]

It's all saved into a Lua file with the map name as a header so you can change maps at any time and it'll work if you've already got it setup

Same setup for the touge game mode

[bright frost]

How do you find the server<>client communication with MP

Just curious since it's something not everyone finds intuitive

I think it's a little odd to get a handle on, but once you do you can do anything you want basically

[stable pebble]

Uhhh server reads the config file and looks for the map name in there, sends that to the client and it looks through its config and matches to the map name

[bright frost]

I just mean your feeling on implementing the communication between the server and client based on what BeamMP provides

[stable pebble]

Oh I believe I use event timers and client events

[bright frost]

Nice, I see you're comfortable with the MP.Trigger.... events then

That's really what I was getting at

Do your clients communicate back to the server as well?

[stable pebble]

Yeah they do, to send back their relative position in the race and a few other things

So other people can see where they are at in the race

This is how the route is sent to the client lol

Probably well overcomplicated but it works lol

This resyncs the water level if the client and server get out of sync

2285 lines of code in just the flood.lua file, I'm sure I could simplify stuff, but if it works it works

[bright frost]

I have an imgui draw call with a 4500 line if then statement, with about 1000 if thens nested inside so deep all you get is a 2G cell signal, don't worry about it

It's just nice to see the work of others and to know that BeamMP provided methods work for people

[stable pebble]

Yeah the only issue I really have is my implementation of freezing a car in place, it works but can severely impact frame rate

[bright frost]

Do you use the game's provided setFreeze?

[bright frost]

Reference material

https://github.com/StanleyDudek/CobaltEssentialsInterface/blob/b9ae154efbac664a61c95f30450379cddb1ac1be/Resources/Client/CEI/lua/ge/extensions/CEI.lua#L5101

Links to an example of controller.setFreeze()

[stable pebble]

I believe I just teleport the car over and over to freeze it lol

[bright frost]

[stable pebble]

I will look into that method tonight lol

[bright frost]

setFreeze true will basically kill all input for the vehicle keeping it locked in place, although the engine can free rev, when set false, vehicle is released, I use it for synchronized starts for players who opt in to a race thing

Directly above what I have linked is an example of ignition control as well if you'd like to have a look

And directly above that is the end of imgui hell

(:

[stable pebble]

Oh dude that sounds perfect

What I've got works but not perfect like that lol

Is there a wiki with all the built in functions? I've just been guessing a lot and using other material as inspiration

[bright frost]

You're never gonna believe this

https://github.com/5DROR5/beamng-mp-docs

[stable pebble]

Jfc dude is a legend

It 404 for me

[bright frost]

Also here's a very powerful tool for your toolbox, works offline and online beautifully

https://www.beamng.com/resources/lua-globals-explorer.37209/

[bright frost]

My mistake hang on lol

[errant yarrow]

https://github.com/BeamMP/Docs/tree/main/docs/en/API documentation

[bright frost]

There

I grabbed the wrong link

[stable pebble]

Will for sure use these for a reference

Was looking at the outbreak gamemode next to modify lol

[bright frost]

Play area control is what this would benefit the most from

The official infection servers had constant "problems" with players leaving the area and rounds never completing correctly

Also anyone could end a round at any time

Which

Yeah

[stable pebble]

Oh i could just make it to where if you go outside the marked area it just DQ's you, had something like that on the flood server originally for the queue system but changed to a chat based queue

[bright frost]

As a game mode it certainly has lots of room to mature

[stable pebble]

It will probably be the next game mode I freshen up at this point lol, gotta go support the beammp patron so I can make more than 2 servers lol

[bright frost]

Eyeballs my 18 servers

Yeah exactly

[ruby badger]

eyeballs the 15 total servers scenic route has (we plan to go to 19 eventually)

[bright frost]

Farm them from your community members

[ruby badger]

na jeff is beammp staff

[bright frost]

126 scenic route servers coming up

[stable pebble]

😆 🤣 my servers are empty af but that's fine I'm pretty new in the scene

[ruby badger]

new beamapex

those guys have too many servers i swear

[bright frost]

[bright frost]

Keep making cool shit, I have things installed on way way way more servers than I own (:

[bright frost]

I can't hear you over the sound of my server list loading

[stable pebble]

Hahahahahah I eventually want multiple flood servers on different maps and same with touge

[ruby badger]

out of me search filtering out their servers

[stable pebble]

Wish we could live change the map and have clients auto reconnect

Kinda like gmod / source games do

Gmod is where I learned all my Lua knowledge

[bright frost]

Oh so you're dangerous

[stable pebble]

😆 🤣 maybe just a little

[bright frost]

I hope I'm tagging the right person, but I think @zealous valve has done this

[ruby badger]

the live change is easy, the reconnect may be possible?

[stable pebble]

Because i think it would be cool to have all the gamemodes in separate Lua files and use requires with if statements or something so i could have a RTV system where people can vote on gamemode / map and it just auto loads the correct gamemode and map

Holy shit my 20 slot flood server is full

[bright frost]

my servers are empty af

yeah OK

[stable pebble]

This is a first bro

[bright frost]

won't be the last

[stable pebble]

Where is their patreon so i can spinup another few servers XD

[bright frost]

https://www.patreon.com/c/BeamMP

uh

hang on though

I THINK the patreon and discord linking and extra keys should all work currently but proceed and read carefully

such as are your discord and patreon already hooked up

[stable pebble]

It works, i got 5 extra keys

[bright frost]

me when I have a fat keychain

[honest pelican]

me when

[bright frost]

That's right, Carl

[stable pebble]

weird... why are there multiple guests with the same id's?

and a few have the same IP lol

[spare birch]

o hey dewf has a shiny nickname now! welcome!

[stable pebble]

yeee i needed more keys

[spare birch]

nice

yeah i got 12 and i use 2 😛

one day...

[stable pebble]

lol my server seemed like it was full of bots

[ruby badger]

those dont seem to have duplicate player ids?

oh the guest username

[stable pebble]

I figured it out lol

[green ice]

i want a reverse flood server

[ruby badger]

drought

[zealous valve]

@stable pebble I did, I used

MPCoreNetwork.connectToServer("127.0.0.1", "30814", "Title")

Not sure if it's still working the same way, been a while since I've tested it. Currently working on swapping levels on the same server using prefabs instead 🙂

[bright frost]

Might a fuck around and make a fourth nickname mod

Might not

I'm kind of interested in CareerMP having nicknames

One of the existing solutions might work

But I'm a little adverse to name abuse

[ruby badger]

sob and scenic route is left in the dust

[bright frost]

I'm only in a brainstorming phase

My first idea is a really bad one

But in theory it would work for my needs (my needs being: a nickname set BEFORE connecting to the server)

The bad idea being a mod that is installed LOCALLY by users who want to opt in, locally is in scare caps because what I mean is that it would be installed as a loose imgui mod, not a packed zip so it always stays loaded, and all it does is hold the name you type as the BeamMP nickname

having it loose installed means it can pop and run on the main menu

However

This won't see the light of day because that's a fucked up way to sideload a mod like this for this purpose

So @ruby badger I think you're fine, I'm probably not gonna make a move on this

[sand idol]

Blacklist

[ebon coral]

can anyone tell me why ı cant choose vehicle on beamng mods

:(

[stable pebble]

used Claude to make a server manager to make handling multiple servers a bit easier lol

[quiet gorge]

Wanna share it? Could defo make use of this!

[stable pebble]

For sure, just requires python to run i run it from the .vbs launch so it doesnt show the cmd prompt

Lemme know if you run into any issues

[quiet gorge]

Thankyou!

[stable pebble]

Not a problem, was getting tired of trying to figure out what cmd prompt was which server lol

[quiet gorge]

Haha yeah, I feel you!

[stable pebble]

It also has a built in config editor :D

[ruby badger]

o

[stable pebble]

I think i figured out a bug i've been chasing for like 3 days lol

now_ms() was using os.clock() which measures CPU time consumed, not wall clock time. An idle BeamMP server uses almost no CPU, so after 80 minutes of nobody playing, os.clock() might have only advanced by a few seconds. When you rejoined, autoRestartScheduledAt was set to a CPU-time value from 80 minutes ago — but now_ms() - autoRestartScheduledAt came back as nearly zero because CPU time barely moved. This caused remaining to be calculated as ~30000ms (the full restart delay) even though the countdown had long expired, and every elapsed-time check in the code was silently broken. Switched to os.time() * 1000 which uses wall clock.```

[stable pebble]

@bright frost where do i find the RCON extension for CE?

[bright frost]

That's long dead

Or rather

CE rcon is long dead

[stable pebble]

F, is there an alternative?

because if i close the server manager and re-open it i cant re-attach to stdin for the console input

[bright frost]

So at the time, RCON for CE was pretty useful in the more narrow context of "how to remotely communicate with my server running on windows", it worked alright, and stuff like rcon protocol isn't impossible to implement, but it had luasocket as a dependency, and this made distribution of CE with a working RCON a real pain in the ass,

As for an alternative, I don't know, I personally have migrated to running mine on a laptop running Debian13 and docker, so I can just ssh in and attach to any server and do console input from anywhere,

And then of course panels are all the rage these days too, which give you a webpage to access the server from anywhere

[stable pebble]

Yeaaa i will just abandon input if the manager is restarted, it still attaches to the PID so you can shutdown/restart the server and stdin still works

[stable pebble]

Servers been running for 9 hours with no Lua issues, finally

[stable pebble]

may have made a discord -> ingame and ingame -> discord bridge :P

[bright frost]

Nice

[hardy merlin]

Can i @ everyone the entire dc from inside the game?

[stable pebble]

thanks for mentioning this, forgot to sanitize stuff like that LOL

no longer pings everyone lol

also added a server status

had to make a client side mod in order to grab ping lol

[ruby badger]

i think this is gonna add a lot of clutter to the chat feed if done like this. you could make it just be the map, or the server's name, in the footer of the embed

[stable pebble]

It only posts to a specific channel and edits the same message instead of posting new ones :)

[ruby badger]

oh

could do the server name in the header, then uptime - map in the footer

[stable pebble]

Thats what im working on now, working on getting it to work for multiple servers lol

[fringe marsh]

what language do you use for the bot?

[stable pebble]

using node.js and python

[fringe marsh]

maybe you can steal something from mine: https://github.com/turrrbina/BeamMP-discord-status

[stable pebble]

will take a look at it :)

[fringe marsh]

:/ dont be to harsh, I made it for myself and dont do a lot of coding

[stable pebble]

nah i dont bash on anyones code, im not great myself :)

[fringe marsh]

[stable pebble]

merged the status embeds into one message

[stable pebble]

this looks a bit cleaner

[stable pebble]

hmmm how do i disable people from spawning their client sided custom cars on my server? someone spawned a rr_vogue somehow on my server lol

[stable pebble]

figured out a way to auto delete their car if it's invalid, thatll work

[ruby badger]

ooh, how'd you do that?

I kind of need that for an automated and publicly accessible gamemode

[stable pebble]

I will send in here in just a sec :)

@ruby badger here ya go

crap gotta fix some logic rq

[ruby badger]

how does this ensure that modding vanilla parts from within the userfolder is caught?

or modifying vanilla parts at all

or that modded parts on a vanilla vehicle are caught?

[stable pebble]

it doesnt check parts, just checks the base car model

could possibly add parts checking tho

[ruby badger]

that is MUCH harder to do and imo not worth it to check every single vanilla part if its valid

-# replying to #💬-modding message

how do i disable people from spawning their client sided custom cars on my server
ah ok, this sounded like it included parts

[ruby badger]

oh actually

you could maybe hash all the vanilla parts and pack that with the mod

and then hash the current parts on the vehicle, and compare hashes?

[stable pebble]

well the parts get sent to the server in a json

[ruby badger]

oh they do

could store that vanilla hash list on the server then

but this is assuming you can even hash that information

[stable pebble]

thats what gets passed to the server lol

[ruby badger]

i was thinking to get at the part data of each part, hash that table, and then send that hash

but this requires being able to hash the table and hash it consistently

[stable pebble]

heres the fixed logic, no parts checking YetTM

[ruby badger]

you could probably find a way to get if a vehicle is sourced by BeamNG and not hardcode a table

that way it doesnt require updating whenever the base game gets a new vehicle

[stable pebble]

i dunno how the hell i would do that lol

[ruby badger]

in the info file of a vehicle theres Author

[stable pebble]

would need to figure out a way to pull all cars and all parts for all vanilla cars

[ruby badger]

oh this is just for the vehicles themselves because i saw you had a fixed table of what models are valid

[stable pebble]

yeh its just checking the base car model lol

[ruby badger]

im gonna see what core_vehicle_manager.getVehicleData(vehId) actually returns real fast

alternatively this

why does that have a duplicate tbh

[hardy merlin]

I had released a vehicle config checker a lil while ago here. it doesnt care for exact jbeam contents, just which parts are used and if they are either vanilla or enlisted on your server https://github.com/OfficialLambdax/BeamMP-ServerScripts/tree/main/VehicleConfigCheck

[stable pebble]

oh holy shit

[ruby badger]

oh thats interesting i dont think that is read only

what bs can i do now

[hardy merlin]

Duo to how that was made it could be modified to also compare the entire jbeam.. but your gonna send alot of data to the server todo that

Or you hash ofc, just didnt develop it that far

[stable pebble]

yeaaaa the config json is very long lol

[ruby badger]

ive suggested to hash it yes

tbh i might just take this idea, none of dewf's code, and make my own
because i wanna see how far i can get

[hardy merlin]

Just dont hash the files on the clients but the v state in the ve lua vm

[hardy merlin]

Good luck! imma not spoil the challenges

[ruby badger]

OK that is a MUCH better way to do this (getting the information of a part)

works the same, and should be MUCH faster

brilliant

I CAN CHANGE THE INFORMATION IN REALTIME

RAHHHH

it does reset on ctrl+r or similar but

thats wild

[stable pebble]

lol thats sick

[ruby badger]

fixed the duplicate part name

that file looks like this btw

part name = custom price

then you run that function for a veh id or the current player vehicle

and it reads that file, then applies the custom price to any parts from the file that are on the vehicle

bal

if i can edit the radiator data in realtime im going to 💥

i dont think so

because that data is not pulled from the part all the time

yeah

[errant yarrow]

99% of the vanilla parts are here including their prices
https://github.com/5DROR5/PIT/blob/main/Resources/Server/UIMPIT/config/parts_config.lua

[bright frost]

Edit how

[bright frost]

I know you already moved on but CE does this with vehicle and part whitelisting

You'll be happier making your own solution like you already are though

But it works pretty well, if you like, you can make sure only vanilla things spawn with ease

[ruby badger]

change variables like coolant volume
but that doesnt work from the part data that im accessing because that information is combined into the engine in a different place than what im accessing

im accessing the data that the parts give the vehicle

not the vehicle's data itself

[bright frost]

I see, I was gonna say you can get buck wild in vehicle lua

I made a system for a dyno that controls thermals on a vehicle only when attached by nodes to the dyno straps

(so it doesn't overheat because there's no aero happening)

[spare birch]

okay so i have zero idea how lua scripting works and i've been trying to make my own onjoin script to send a message to a player 10 seconds after they join, and every bit of code i copy/paste doesn't work. I hate to just ask for something like this, but does anyone have an onjoin script i could borrow? NEVERMIND! I got it to work! this scripting thing is hard. 😛

[stable pebble]

Hell yeah proud of ya

[spare birch]

next challenge: create a script that changes the time of day to 4:15pm when someone joins...

[green ice]

i freaking hate lua, its amazing you got it to work

[errant yarrow]

PIT — v4.0.6

What's new?

🔐 Account system is live — players without a BeamMP identity can now register with a username & password. Stats, money and rank are saved independently
👤 Your display name now appears in chat, the player list and nametags
🔴 New red highlight in the player list shows who hasn't synced your vehicle yet
🔧 Fixed PI rating for dual-motor electric vehicles
🔗 https://github.com/5DROR5/PIT

[spare birch]

I found something that someone else made that works for this. I think I now have my servers right where I want them.

[ruby badger]

FANCY TOY

UI APPS BE DAMNED

[stable pebble]

😆 🤣 I'm still chasing bugs

[bright frost]

https://github.com/StanleyDudek/citybusDisplaysSync/releases/tag/v0.0.1

@stable pebble courtesy tag since you liked my demos of this

@ruby badger I was in CSS hell fixing things here

because I don't know CSS, it took me a very long time to find a single line to omit to fix things

BUT, IDK how long these have been broken in the base game, but I have restored them to their intended output

they were rendering the "Next Stop" footer outside the view

in this previous example, see no Next Stop footer

and it SHOULD look like this!

graphic design is my passion and all, but the footers were rendering invisibly offscreens here:

due to a css property of inline-block

I only found this when I remembered Ctrl-U debugging

and I found it IMMEDIATELY

Thanks, that's all I got

[ruby badger]

LOCKED IN

i can still just exit the ui with escape though

idk how to prevent that

[bright frost]

Yet another input filter?

[ruby badger]

i mean i guess but also the tutorial popup does that on its own

[bright frost]

Oh

Well OK

[ruby badger]

sticky play state doesnt work

oh do i need to do it on statechangesuccess

[ruby badger]

this is so chill

[bright frost]

Hey that's sicko mode

[ruby badger]

thats a ui module too, not a ui app

literally complete freedom

[bright frost]

Fucken let me bury simpleMOTD

PLEASE

[ruby badger]

is that a ui app?

[bright frost]

It's jank ass BBCODE HTML bullshit

[ruby badger]

i could probably add bbcode support to this

cause rn its just a *.partial.html

[bright frost]

Gif / image support goes far

As does formatting

[ruby badger]

i mean, it is literally the same stuff that the lightrunner/quickrace/multiplayer ui modules do

[bright frost]

But idk if BBCODE is great

I mean can't hurt

[ruby badger]

like this is that rules files' html

[bright frost]

It's easy enough for anyone to write

[ruby badger]

this is gonna be mostly static, at least this rules page

[bright frost]

I think you're on fire with it

[ruby badger]

but yeah im thinking like

welcome, heres the rules

then based on what team youre assigned from the server

it shows like team objectives n whatnot before a round starts

progress bar for countdown until round starts

[bright frost]

If you can handle a variety of stuff like maybe a checkbox, hyperlinks, buttons

[ruby badger]

and then round starts, it auto disappears maybe and its just normal stuff like tasklist ui app

[ruby badger]

its literally a ui module like the multiplayer ui module in the main menu

[bright frost]

Well alright

[ruby badger]

anything that menu does, or the quick race ui does, i COULD do

[bright frost]

Exciting

[ruby badger]

this is the same core

like, i could recreate this

and itd work

or bus routes

and this isnt tied to the main menu buttons either

although it does load weirdly

i have to activate the mod after the games started, press f5, enable devtools, and then press reload in the cef state picker

and THEN it lets me use the custom ui states

[bright frost]

I mean I'm hype in this for reasons

Yay bus routes

[bright frost]

How cool would this be to list a server's leaderboard times

I want to never touch imgui again

[ruby badger]

you could probably add that to the top bar and then you literally have a custom menu for that

[ruby badger]

cef is like 15 fps though

[bright frost]

Leaderboards aren't themselves in need of fast updates

A race UI sure

[errant yarrow]

That sounds like a cool game mode — I can’t wait to see it already 🔥

[ruby badger]

we've been hosting it with manual aid in Scenic Route for months. im making these uis to make a fully automated version that can be public on the server list

so that people know what the rules are, what they should/shouldnt be doing, when a certain team wins

[errant yarrow]

I think the biggest challenge in developing mods for BeamMP is the bidirectional communication between the server, the client, and the JS—and back again
You have to time everything correctly and make sure everything stays properly synchronized across clients

[ruby badger]

timing be damned just throw more tar at it until it sticks together and works

[errant yarrow]

That approach works… until it really doesn’t 😅

[bright frost]

Just wait until all lights are green and then flood

Ah shit that's the imgui talking

[ruby badger]

tabs for rules working now

gotta cater & reduce clutter for the adhd children that play beammp

cursor wasnt recorded, but, it in action

[ruby badger]

it needs more left padding on the rules

i think this is the first time ive actually gotten this legitimately

[stable pebble]

got remote admin stuff working for kicking

admin channel vs individual channels per server

[ruby badger]

why not use proper slash commands?

that way you can have a more intuitive argument system and dynamic autocomplete

[stable pebble]

my first time making a discord bot lol

[elder moss]

no-prep

[stable pebble]

Servers are finally stable enough to be left up for 12 hours with no issues

Discord bot manager that I'm working on to be compatible with any game as long as it has Lua support

Server manager is finally stable too

Gotta get rid of all the debug prints now that it's stable lol

[bright frost]

https://github.com/StanleyDudek/CareerMP/releases/tag/v0.0.32

[ruby badger]

so chill

[stable pebble]

That's pretty sick :D

[ruby badger]

1080p

[bright frost]

Hell yeah

[ruby badger]

that will just kick the player lmao

[bright frost]

Classic

[ruby badger]

I mean its an automated gamemode

so you kind of need to agree to follow rules

not like there's an event host watching everyone all the time

[bright frost]

Third button

I do not agree with the rules but I will play by them

[ruby badger]

well

its I agree to play by the rules

not that you agree with the rules itself

[bright frost]

Good point

I refuse the premise but I'm here for a good time

There

[ruby badger]

is this serious or not

[bright frost]

No of course not lmaooo

[errant yarrow]

It’s so different, yet so similar

[ruby badger]

grr its not beamng styled

and also just use tutorial popups for that

[errant yarrow]

That's why I said it was different

If I had thought in advance about the idea of using the built-in apps, I believe I would’ve gone with it
But that idea never crossed my mind, and I ended up wasting a lot of hours

[ruby badger]

i had a diabolical idea to make people read the rules: require clicking on each sentence/rule before pressing accept

• @errant yarrow

ZERO gamepad support

greatly improved or added contrast on the bottom buttons for gamepad users

fun fact the bng-button-main (filled orange) button class does not have a focus or focus-within css class

meaning that it is entirely unchanged when selected by gamepad

however it has a :hover css class, so mouse input is correct

[stable pebble]

made it to where i can do multiple map setups for flood so i can just copy paste the gamemode across servers and setup the map :D

[bright frost]

Standard TOS accept is open and scroll to bottom

[bright frost]

Usually the element gets a colored ring around it when selected by gamepad

[ruby badger]

not on bng button main

[ruby badger]

mine has tabs and that's easy to skip to accepting

[stable pebble]

finally did it lol

[ruby badger]

yesss so much better

[stable pebble]

caches active players on startup using the last status message that was sent, then caches new players on join and removes them on disconnect

that way if you start the bot after the server starts and people join you can still see them in the list

[errant yarrow]

I can guarantee you from my experience that nothing you try will really help. Even if you translate your mod into every language in the world, there will always be players that nothing on earth can make read your rules 😡

[ruby badger]

ill make them have to click every word in the rules individually and then drive away 95% of my playerbase

[errant yarrow]

There might even be some who start playing before they’ve learned how to read yet 🤣

[ruby badger]

I can make a randomly generated quiz

or randomly selected quiz I should say

[errant yarrow]

Yeah

if you’ve read the rules and agree, type the answer to the following question: what is 12 + 6? 

And make the question random each time 😊

[stable pebble]

make them require a mic, and recite the entire rulebook matching their voice to the rules or something lol

[errant yarrow]

Anyone without a microphone won't be able to play 🤷‍♂️

[stable pebble]

was just a dumb suggestion rofl

[ruby badger]

me lmao

[untold tree]

any1 know what map this is? thx :3

[untold tree]

why the laugh react :<

oh wait cause its a meme 😭

im so stupid

[green ice]

refill the blinker fluid and it'll run like new