Energy Work

[valid sorrel]

Energy Work

Welcome to our community discussion thread dedicated to Energy Work!

[mild knoll]

I just pieced together that the entity/shadow person I felt at the entrance of my doorway was because of my dad (long story and I don’t want to break the rules)

[vague agate]

hi

[austere turtle]

energy work

[waxen hollow]

Does anyone here have thoughts on "light" and "dark" feminine energies?

[glossy delta]

[crystal glen]

yep, that fixed it! thx :]

[crystal glen]

tips for strengthening clairsenses? (specifically clairalience, in my case)

[vague agate]

good question

[vague lily]

Hey! Has anyone done any work on unblocking energy in yourself?

[queen mason]

what exactly do you mean by unblocking energy? i would maybe look into energy points (the hellenic ones for example) and look for some meditations to unblock them

[austere turtle]

^yeah wdym unblocking

[vague lily]

Like Chakras and the like

[austere turtle]

oh are you Hindu or Buddhist? /genq Chakras are only in those cultures

[vague lily]

No, im not going to work with Chakra themselves, just using it as an example of what I mean

[austere turtle]

Oh well then like Danny suggested, do you mean energy centers?

Imo energy can't be "blocked" as it flows in and out of everything. But I think if you're having trouble tapping into it, then meditation is a good start

[vague lily]

Yea I guess energy centres. I can feel a block in my head whenever I try to do too much and I think it’s linked to trauma (im getting therapy) so I’ll try meditation again

[austere turtle]

Grounding before doing any energy work is a good first step as well! To make sure you're in a good headspace, and ready yourself

[vague lily]

Thanks so much!

[vague agate]

namaste

[olive saddle]

How do I get started on energy work?

[glossy delta]

I would recommend looking through #1114061062900293714

[austere turtle]

Meditation is a really good start

[glad sand]

Meditation is definitely a good start. Plus there's lots of different types

[vague agate]

does carl jung talk about shadow work?

[glossy delta]

I think Carl Jung is the one that coined shadow work

[vague agate]

coined

?

joe dispenza?

[glossy delta]

Carl Jung was the person that came up with the concept of shadow work

[vague agate]

ohh thats cool he must be old

what about joe dispenza

in what book did he talk about shadow work? I got one of his books from the library.

[glossy delta]

I don't really know much about him tbh

[oblique frigate]

I have heard the term "resonating" in some spiritual topics a few times, and I was wondering what exactly it meant?

[glossy delta]

it is probably similar to its mundane meanings:

• produce or be filled with a deep, full, reverberating sound.
  "the sound of the siren resonated across the harbor"
• evoke or suggest images, memories, and emotions.
  "the words resonate with so many different meanings"
• (of an idea or action) meet with someone's agreement.
  "the judge's ruling resonated among many of the women"
  2.TECHNICAL
• produce electrical or mechanical resonance.
  "the crystal resonates at 16 MHz"

[oblique frigate]

that doesn't really give me any idea tbh /lh

[glossy delta]

well if were talking about sound or practices with sound it could be like the first one. as in a room fills with a loud sound

if its something you're meant to connect with it might be more the second point: I really resonated with the daily reading today because it fit my day pretty well or it gave me an answer i was looking for.

if its meant to be a form of agreement: what Lily said really resonated with me! i agree with her!

the word itself has a few different meanings so it depends on how its used

[oblique frigate]

so, if you feel the same way about something you perceived?

[glossy delta]

could you give a bit more context?

[oblique frigate]

like the middle sentence you said

and how its like an agreement

[glossy delta]

i think im confused because resonating is usually used in a positive context. if you percieve something as bad you wont necessarily resonate with it, if that makes sense?

[oblique frigate]

ahh alr

[verbal verge]

I have arrived

[verbal verge]

If I was wanting to further develop in this area, where might be some good places to start?

[austere turtle]

meditation!!

[verbal verge]

Any particular kinds/suggestions for it? What goals should I have during it, if any?

[austere turtle]

if you’re not really used to meditation, then any way you’d prefer to start. whether that’s just doing 5 minutes at a time, using a guided meditation, trying active meditation, etc. all mediating should have mindful breathing. having a good breath will get you towards a complete meditation. while meditating, try and focus on your energy: what it feels like, what it flows like, etc.

ofc this is how i started, but energy work is different for everyone

[verbal verge]

Honestly the most experience I have with meditation is guided meditation for the purposes of helping me fall asleep

So I guess it's not really something I'm used to actively doing

[austere turtle]

yeah def try one where you don’t end up asleep afterwards! /lh

[verbal verge]

Still a guided one, or?

[austere turtle]

that’s up to you

[verbal verge]

Are there any in particular you suggest? Because I'm not really sure where exactly to start and I don't know a whole lot about it

[glossy delta]

i would check out the energy work resources channel!

[austere turtle]

Yeah^ Plus I don’t really follow guided meditations so I can’t really give any recs

[verbal verge]

That's fair I guess

I have a hard time doing it on my own so the guided ones are nice for me

Okay so in the resources channel there was a thing for a protection circle

But I didn't see any sort of description for like what exactly it's used for, if that makes sense?

This one
#1114061062900293714 message

[glossy delta]

protection circles are use to help make a protective barrier for various kinds of work.

[verbal verge]

So are they a permanent thing that stays in the space, or just temporary while you're doing energy work?

[glossy delta]

I don't use them at all in my practice so I'm unsure 100% but from what I've seen, it's energy barrier made from your own energy so if you have a massive amount of energy and can maintain it for a long time then it could be permanent but I generally wouldn't bc then it's probably going to be extremely draining and should stick to being a temporary protection

[verbal verge]

Gotcha okay that makes sense

[verbal verge]

So I guess tying into this could like honestly just laying down in the lawn and "just being" work for meditation?

[austere turtle]

yup!!

[verbal verge]

Okay that has me like doing a follow up question

So I know sometimes I just feel like inclined to go to the next room over and just lay down on the floor chest down

I don't really know why but like I just feel pulled to do it sometimes

It might be a pressure thing idrk

Could that be considered some kind of meditation or is that something else?

[glossy delta]

well the act of laying there could be yes but the feeling of being pulled to do so I'm not sure

[verbal verge]

Yeah I meant more the act of laying there just on the floor

Sorry I probably should've clarified that better

[verbal verge]

Ugh I haven't been able to do any meditations at all for the past 2 weeks because I've just been sick the entire time 😭

[hallow rose]

I like to do active meditation when I’m not feeling well, like singing/dancing, art, or taking a walk outside in the sun and grass

[vague agate]

Namaste

[real charm]

How do I stop being overwhelmed by energy all the time- Like in scary vibes places/thrifts stores/large crowds. I shield and use dimmers stuff but it’s like I’m so hypersensitive it wears down on my protection so fast

[glossy delta]

you could try veiling? unless that's what you mean by sheilding

[austere turtle]

idk what you mean by dimmers? /gen But when i’m purposely going to large crowds where there’s hella energies, i’ll have multiple ways of protections. like i’ll have a veil on, a few crystals, a protective oil, will cleanse myself beforehand, put up my personal wards, and a few other tiny things.

sometimes it all works fine, but other times when i’m also having to like mask or be hyper aware of my surroundings, those protections may fail a bit. but that’s why i have a lot on so if one falls down it’s not an end all

[fallen wedge]

for me, meditation is difficult to do due to my mind needing to be constantly doing something. are there any alternative ways of meditating while keeping a busy mind simultaneously (for instance, working out or listening to loud and quick-paced music)? or is meditation just not the energy work i should be attempting?

[glossy delta]

Active meditation!

[fallen wedge]

thank you! i'll do my research.

[glossy delta]

#1114061062900293714 message

that's a little thing lys wrote about it but passive meditation is the kind where your told not to move and to stay still and such

[austere turtle]

yeahhhhh

[vague agate]

how to stop worrying?

calm down anxiety stop thinking about the future and be in the present moment?

[vague agate]

yes my mind constantly keeps wondering to keep me occupied . keeping me distracted from goals and self doubt

[austere turtle]

it’s normal for your mind to wander and fill with thoughts! our brains never “rest” per say so to have 0 activity would be pretty hard. i try to focus on my breathing, or how my body is feeling in that moment

as for stopping worrying, it’s okay to have worries! but if it’s overwhelming, try to find something, or a method, that can keep you grounded. a common one is the 54321 method but not everyone vibes with that. everyone works different so try to look for things that work for you

[vague agate]

thank you its hard though ill have to work on it

[bold leaf]

Today I learned that it is Not normal to be able to pluck out negative energy from someone's aura. I legit thought that was something anyone that did energy stuff could do, but according to our husband and a very good friend of our, I was Mistaken 💀

[austere turtle]

like pluck it out how?? to throw it away orrr

[bold leaf]

Yeah

[austere turtle]

that’s definitely a nifty skill whoa

[bold leaf]

Like grab, pull, and toss
Which I thought was a very normal thing to be able to do, but apparently I was wrong lmao
I can't even be surprised with how often shit like this happens to us

[austere turtle]

teach me /j

no yeah that’s def not “normal” per say but not ABnormal? yk?

[bold leaf]

Yeah like not outside the realm of possibility and not unheard of, but not- I guess a better word might be common

Tbh I found it kinda easy to learn, but that's cause I use my clair senses to know where the icky bits are and then just kinda.. grab em. Idk if there's more to it than that or what, but that's how I taught myself how to do it

Pull em off and then cleanse the space to make sure they don't just stick right back on

[vague bear]

Wait that's so dope

[bold leaf]

I oopsie-doopsie into this kind of thing more often than I'd like to admit

[austere turtle]

ah my clairs are shit for an energy worker. but that’s cool!! /g

[bold leaf]

I don't do clairvoyance for mental health reasons, but I built up others enough to compensate!

[vague agate]

how to do shadow work does it help with anxiety?

[glossy delta]

Shadow work doesn't necessarily help with anxiety

there are a lot of ways that you can do it it's just something that you might want to also do with a therapist

especially with the more hard-hitting topics that could cause triggers or very bad emotional reactions

https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114060326225313843 this is our section on it

[vague agate]

okay thank you

[lusty dew]

[So idk if this shoul go in here or baneful magic but uh-
three days ago(the 26th) my friend abandoned me, and every night since then when I've been asleep i've gotten a nose bleed. So I was wondering if there was any way i could tell if they hexed/jinxed me or something]

[bold leaf]

Oh! Give me one sec to find our thing on the matchstick test

Here you go!
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[lusty dew]

[Thank you but i don't have matchsticks]

[clear tusk]

you can also use toothpicks

[lusty dew]

[that works, thank you]

[lusty dew]

[also what if they touch but like- rub up against each other- lik two touch 'l's]

[glossy delta]

"If they touch barely, such as making a T or V pattern in the water, someone tried to curse you and failed"

if they are like up against each other but not crossing then ^ that would also apply

[lusty dew]

[ok, how big should the bowl be or does it not matter?]

[bc i have two bowls, one small and one big]

[no inbetween unless i manage to steal a regular bowl]

[glossy delta]

just enough for them to be thrown in comfortably tbh

i would probably go bigger to be safe so they dont like hit the edges of the bowl as easy

[verbal verge]

Is it a realistic thing to be able to somewhat clear up minor aches with energy work? Like headaches or just an achey body from like a long day of travel or minor things like that?

Like I visualize the energy moving between two points determined by my hand placement, usually around the area of the pain

[sturdy crypt]

If the cause is from being tired or from stress, relaxing in such a way can be a form of relief yea but that's not necessarily because if the energy work

Though if it's from like dehydration then no it'll have no effect because it just doesn't work like that

Pain in general can often be relieved by relaxing and putting pressure in the right spots - whether that's permanent relief or not depends on the cause of pain, which should be brought up to a doctor if possible

So realistically no- but if visualizing healing in that way makes you feel better I'd say there's no harm in it. Just understand the difference between feeling better and actually getting better

[glossy delta]

^^^

[verbal verge]

I mean I know this is absolutely not gonna be going and doing anything for any kinds of wounds or things to go see a doctor for obviously because that's ridiculous and unrealistic

But like for those sorts of minor aches and pains I feel like it sometimes helps

[glossy delta]

I think what fish is trying to say is that there's a difference between feeling better and the pain actually being addressed

because (for example) although a bruise may not hurt it doesn't mean that the bruise is not there

(again as an example) and if you aren't feeling the bruise it doesn't mean that there wasn't something that bruised you

[verbal verge]

Oh gotcha okay

Or like those random little cuts you get that you have no idea where they came from

[glossy delta]

(mine are 100% from my cats I know it /hj)

[verbal verge]

And don't immediately notice they're there

[verbal verge]

Okay that's fair but you get the concept I'm referring to?

[glossy delta]

I meant that mostly as a joke lol but yeah

[sturdy crypt]

Yea so like headaches from stress aren't like, a physical condition it's just a physical symptom which could be relieved by something like energy work because the premise is relaxing and letting that stress go

But for dehydration that's an actual reaction to something unhealthy so it needs to be dealt with differently

[glossy delta]

ye

[verbal verge]

That makes sense okay

So depends on the reason for the aches

[glossy delta]

and although like headaches from stress may not be a physical thing they can also be caused by other underlying issues like you being so stressed up and tense that you're causing yourself attention headache rather than a stress headache!

so although it may feel like it's just stress (and it could be a main factor) it might not be the only one.
so while you could use energy work in order to help it should def not be the only thing you rely on

[sturdy crypt]

Like I said difference between feeling & getting better comes down to getting temporary relief (placebo or factual) and actually treating the problem causing it

[glossy delta]

trying to figure out a way to like phrase this correctly

[verbal verge]

So like if it's stress related then learning stress management/relaxation techniques rather than relying on this kind of thing?

[sturdy crypt]

Stubbing your toe hurts but no matter how many ice packs you use stubbing your toe is still gonna hurt, watching where your going however -

[glossy delta]

I think mainly what we're trying to say is that you should be using it in tandem with actual health care

[verbal verge]

Ohhh okay

[sturdy crypt]

Yea it's not a bad thing to use, it's just not a 100% problem solver

[glossy delta]

like it shouldn't be something that you're solely relying on and you should be using it in moderation
bc like as always mundane before magical

ye

[verbal verge]

So if it's a dehydration thing then it would be like both this and getting fluids down combined

[glossy delta]

fish our brains are so in sync

[sturdy crypt]

Yea one will fix the issue the other makes ya feel better- or theoretically should

[verbal verge]

Or with the stress again combination of this and relaxation techniques

That sorta thing

[glossy delta]

yeah! or addressing the issue causing the stress etc.

[verbal verge]

That's a little more involved and tricky at least for me personally

[glossy delta]

I think like with all things magical it should be done within moderation and you shouldn't be relying on it alone especially when it comes to physical health

[verbal verge]

Feels like existing is just stressful haha /hj

[glad musk]

I love killing demons with my energy

[glossy delta]

um what?

[glossy delta]

this isnt like a role playing server so if your wanting to do that i would find another one.

if your serious: you cant really do that? and if you can that would be like claiming to be able to kill angels lol

and a friendly reminder that there are folks who work with and worship demons here so be mindful of that

[glad musk]

I know like evil spirits i mean

Yeah sorry

[glossy delta]

evil spirits are not the same as demons/lh

[glad musk]

Oh i didnt know

[glossy delta]

yeah i would maybe do more research that before claiming to "kill evil things" with energy if you arent aware of termonolgy like that /gen

[verbal verge]

Okay so I've got a question for this corner of the server

So my understanding is reiki is a closed practice

How much does that extend to that sort of concept of energy based healing?

I'm going to sleep now so please ping me with a response 💜

[glossy delta]

it's similar I think to the idea of chakras being closed.

in the case of chakras the specific energy system itself is closed, not the idea that anyone can have an energy system at all.

I'm sure there are other methods of energy healing that aren't rooted in reiki

however I would also err on the side of understanding that you will not be able to actively heal somebody with energy alone because that's not how that works.

[glossy delta]

sorry ping^

and from my understanding it's also similar to chakras in the fact that it is closed unless you are learning specifically from a master that is also familiar with the culture surrounding it.

so closed by soft initiation

[verbal verge]

Gotcha yeah I know it's not going to heal major wounds and things like that because that's unrealistic and needs somebody trained for those kinds of things professionally

I just mean mostly for general aches and things like that

[verbal verge]

Do you know how to find other methods maybe? Because I feel like I'm capable of something along the lines of energy healing of just surface level stuff like aches and wounds

But I don't know what I can actually call that or if I can even practice that without it being cultural appropriation

I don't really know the specifics of reiki so I don't claim to practice it for those reasons in addition to it being a closed practice

But I feel capable of some manner of energy healing where I use visualization to guide it

I essentially like put my hands on two points and visualize the energy going between my hands

So like if I have a headache I'll put a hand on each side of my forehead or on the sides of my head depending on where I feel the headache, and visualize the energy going across that space between my hands if that kind of makes sense?

[verbal verge]

So is there something I can kinda find along those lines that is that concept without having cultural appropriation for reiki going on?

[glossy delta]

honestly your best bet is just looking up energy healing?
your probably not going to find something with a fancy name

But i (again) wanna stress that what you are doing isnt curing your headache with energy thats not possible and if it was people witch chronic migraines would be using that.
there is a difference between using energy to "cure aches and wounds" and allowing your body to work on its own with a very small energy boost.

and i think its important not to fall into the spaces that claim that they can cure things with energy

[bold leaf]

There's also things like pain relieving pressure points

[glossy delta]

the one for migraines is g-dsent

[verbal verge]

So what exactly is this then? Because I feel like it helps reduce my headaches for the moment

Not long term, but in the moment I find it helps

[glossy delta]

honestly it could be a source of placebo effect or something of you feeling better because you believe you are but that doesn't get to the root problem of the headache which stems from irl places like lack of food, eye strain, etc

[verbal verge]

So it sounds like it's just a mundane thing then?

It's more like providing relief to the headache I guess

Sorry wording things is hard sometimes

[glossy delta]

what you are doing isnt curing your headache with energy you are using the idea of energy to in some ways help redirect your ability to feel pain there for a small amount of time

[verbal verge]

So what would something that's actually energy work look like then if this isn't energy work?

Because it sounds like this isn't actually using energy is my understanding?

[glossy delta]

so you can keep using what ever it is that your doing and call it energy work.

what im saying is that you need to be very careful when you are implying that you can cure or treat things like wounds and headaches with energy because that is not what you are doing.

energy work can look like a lot of things and healing isnt the only way to use it

[verbal verge]

I mean I know it's not curing it

It's just providing temporary relief

To me, curing is like addressing it at the root cause

[glossy delta]

yes but you have to think of the questions that stem from it:
Why is energy alone providing relief? HOW is it doing so?

Pain doesnt just go away, even if you arent focused on it its still there.

thats why i said you arent getting rid of the headache or wound, you are (using energy) redirecting the pain to somewhere else, which isnt healing, its redirection

[glossy delta]

hence the middle section of this statement

[verbal verge]

So how does that work if I don't notice it anymore after doing that?

[glossy delta]

healing implies curing or making it something that no longer effects you, redirection is different

because you arent addressing the root cause, so its still there meaning its not fixed and you are still dealing with what caused it

[verbal verge]

What exactly do you mean when you say redirection?

Like just moving it to another part of the body or what exactly does that mean in this context?

[verbal verge]

But it's gone in the moment?

The headache itself may come back later but the effects of it are gone for the moment?

[glossy delta]

im going to exit this conversation because i feel as if im going in circles attempting to explain this and im getting a bit fustrated /nm/gen

[verbal verge]

Okay

Sorry I'm not really understanding what you're saying /nm

I'm trying to but it just doesn't make sense to me yet /gen /info /nm

[glossy delta]

i genuinely cant explain more than i have so im going to leave this to someone else that can do so.
having to re-explain things makes me fustrated since words are hard so ill leave this here /nm

[verbal verge]

That's fair, I understand that part. Words are hard.

Sorry for causing frustration, I'm genuinely just having a hard time understanding /nm /info

[glossy delta]

im more fustrated at myself than anything /nm

[worn pine]

headaches (and some other aches of the sort like idk stomachaches) are ways your body have to tell you things that may not have a very serious underlying cause, such as (which I believe thorn has mentioned before) dehydration, lack of nutrients (not eating proper food), needing to rest, etc

if you are getting relief by doing some energy work I would say that it may be something like needing to rest or to disconnect so when you take that time to do sth "magical" for yourself you give your body what's it's asking for

it can also be a "placebo effect" like oli mentioned which is basically convincing yourself that you are doing better, that is a real way of treating symptoms of things like stress or tiresome!

in medicine using the power of convincing the brain of a patient to help them out isn't sth rare and it's proven that when someone is more optimistic about the future they are more likely to make it through health issues

personally, and I'm pretty sure it is a really strong part of witchcraft to believe in something, for exmaple I think if I do something to improve my concentration, magic may help but me believing I'm going to do better will also give into it

you may be seeing pain relief from whatever you are doing for any reason of the ones mentioned but it is important to know that if there is a more serious underlying cause it won't be cured

a big example I have to share is that I used to be in a scout group and I used to help a lot with the looking over and entertaining teens and children and one thing that happened a lot was that when they were having a hard time during camps (tired, missing family members, etc) they would start feeling "sick", things like headaches, stomachache and stuff

when this happened we would give them "medicine", it was different types of medical drops bottles which were all filled with medicine and, most times, it would be more than enough for them to be running around soon!

clearly if the problem was caused by sth like a bad reaction to the food they would need actual medical care but the example works to show that your brain has a lot of power over your "physical" struggles, after all it's all connected

and since our brains work all in different ways that explains why something witchy that may help you ease the pain would not work in other witches

[verbal verge]

So is that kind of giving/getting relief actually energy work?

That's what I'm confused about and not feeling like I'm understanding the answers that are being given

[glossy delta]

ik i said id drop it but:

what are you hoping to define as "actual energy work"?
what is energy work to you?

[verbal verge]

I mean for me when I feel like I'm doing it, it's like I visualize energy doing certain things

[glossy delta]

because it seems like the answers we are giving you arent lining up with what you think energy work is

[verbal verge]

So like in this sort of headache example, I put a hand on either side of my head that sort of encompasses the pain area, and I visualize the energy moving between the two anchor points(my hands) with the intent to relieve the pain

[glossy delta]

i think you are skipping over the parts where we are telling you that sure you may feel healed but you havent addressed the root cause of your ailments and thats why its not healing

[verbal verge]

I understand that part

Like I get that the root cause of why I'm getting headaches isn't being addressed

[worn pine]

I will also add that if you are using actual pressure points then that's just science

[verbal verge]

Well I'm not exactly applying pressure, I just hold my hands there

[glossy delta]

yes exactly.
you are redirecting your attention away from the pain without actually handling the reason why you have it.

so your brain thinks you no longer have it. Its like when your parents kiss your bandaid after to "take away the pain"
the pain isnt actually going anywhere. you just are no longer focused on it

if you are using pressure points thats different but if you are not you are convincing yourself through a type of placebo effect, that you no longer feel that pain

[verbal verge]

And I'm not sure that it's on pressure points all the time

[glossy delta]

if you want to consider that energy work by all means

[verbal verge]

What I'm wondering is is that something other people consider energy work, or not really, and is that more of just a mundane thing?

[glossy delta]

its your practice and your belief system but there is a difference between healing and redirecting your attention

[glossy delta]

.

it can be both?

[worn pine]

I honestly don't think you are letting anything of what we say in, it feels like you made your conclusion already and are correcting our answers /gen/nm

[glossy delta]

this is like people saying "well spells dont actually work because you have to still do mundane things to get there"

[worn pine]

like oli said, if it falls in what you believe is energy work then that's fine we just want to clarify that if there is an underlying issue you should go to a professional /gen

[verbal verge]

I don't feel like I'm doing that? I feel like I've gotten vague answers and am being met with more vague answers when I try to get more understanding /nm /info

[glossy delta]

for some people they dont and what we do is just a weird pep-talk type thing, but for others that spell gives them the confidence and motivation needed

we arent being "vague"

[verbal verge]

I'm not saying you are I just feel like I'm getting vague abstract answers /gen /info /nm

[glossy delta]

you are hoping to have a text book definition of something that IS an abstract concept

[verbal verge]

So that's why I'm inherently confused then.

[glossy delta]

Energy healing isnt scientific, we cannot give you a complete and text book answer because there isnt one

and there may never be one

so as much as we can help things like spirituality need to be things you come from with a knowing that you wont be able to get a concrete answer from because it is something built off belief

[verbal verge]

So this sounds like it's just inherently going to be challenging for me as a whole, not just specifically energy work, because of my autism

[glossy delta]

and if it is im really sorry about that but we cant give you a clear and scientific answer because thats not how any of this works

some people believe you are just making it up and others think that what you do is 100% completely going to cure them from cancer

thats just how the object of this all works

[verbal verge]

I mean it's not in your control if I don't understand these things and need extra clarification and even then still don't understand it, so I don't know why you're apologizing /gen /nm

Well I know for sure that it's not going to cure illnesses like that

[glossy delta]

im saying sorry because im having empthy towards your struggles

[verbal verge]

I view it mostly as just a temporary relief from surface level pain and things like that

[glossy delta]

and if you view it that way by all means (as ive said before) we cant dictate what you classify as energy work

[verbal verge]

It's not going to cure diseases or infections or things of that nature. I mostly view it as just providing temporary relief to surface level aches and such

[glossy delta]

but all i have been saying is that what you arent doing is curing or healing yourself

you are mitigating your pain by the use of a "energetic" placebo at best

which isnt a bad thing and is still using energy but you arent healing anything

[verbal verge]

Okay

So like I've said it's just providing temporary relief to the pain essentially

But it's not addressing the root cause of the pain

Such as, for me, is probably stress related a decent amount of the time

So managing that stress would be closer to healing and a more permanent solution

This is just a temporary relief thing

Is that essentially what you're trying to communicate? Am I understanding it right?

[glossy delta]

yes for the most part

[verbal verge]

And this can still be considered energy work? I understand it's not healing

[glossy delta]

going to be a bit frank here:
if you use energy its energy work 🤷

[verbal verge]

Good I like frank, frank helps

Being direct and concrete like that very much helps my understanding of things, so thank you

[glossy delta]

which is understandable but not always possible due to subject matter.
things like this are built off personal belief, not hard facts

[verbal verge]

And I guess that's where my understanding gets confused is because of it being inherently a subjective individual matter

I do have one more question for the time being if that's okay? /nf

Hopefully a less abstract one

[glossy delta]

we can try

[verbal verge]

Crystals can be a tool for energy work? Like can crystals be charged with energy and intent? Or I suppose also just general objects as charms and stuff too?

Can that be considered energy work?

For example so I sort of need to be able to block off other peoples' energy and I visualize this sort of energy bubble shield thing doing just that

[glossy delta]

yup thats called enchanting

or sheilding

we have a lot of info on that in the #1114061062900293714

[verbal verge]

But that gets tiring to actively concentrate on, is it a thing to use energy to get objects to do that sort of effect for me?

Like on crystals, or on mundane objects?

[glossy delta]

yup like i said thats enchanting

[verbal verge]

Okay so that is a thing of energy work, thanks

[glossy delta]

you are pretty much assigning a task to an object

[verbal verge]

That's probably my other big one of energy work

Is that sort of energy shielding thing, had to pick that up out of necessity because other peoples' emotions are overwhelming

[worn pine]

I have an onix turtle for card cleansing

he is on card duty

[glossy delta]

yup that can be something from enchanting or veiling

[verbal verge]

I've always sort of aligned with the concept of being an empath from just learning information and from input from other people of things they've observed about me

Is that related to all of this somehow? In my mind it is

But I wonder what others think

[glossy delta]

a lot of empaths need sheilds to protect from feeling others energy too much so yeah they do things like enchanting and veiling

which are energetic sheilds

[verbal verge]

Okay so that is an actual concept and I'm not just crazy then? /hj /genq

Mostly for just being an empath with that question /info

[worn pine]

being an empath is an actual thing and a lot of people here consider they are one

[verbal verge]

Glad I'm not alone in that, then

[worn pine]

that's the point of having a server about these beliefs 🫡🫶

[verbal verge]

It's strange also learning all this witchy stuff because I'm exposed to a lot more Christianity in my family

I've never really identified with any of it and always have more with the kind of environment of this server

But it's hard to learn about some of this stuff clearly in that(the Christianity) kind of setting

If at all

[worn pine]

there are christian witches but I understand your point

[verbal verge]

Yeah sadly my Christian family experience is the not witch friendly kind

[worn pine]

yeah well sadly that's not just a "christian" family thing, witchcraft has been taboo in most places for the longest time, calling someone a witch is considered an insult by most people regardless of their beliefs around here 🤷‍♂️

it's good that you got the chance to learn more about it on your own way, always nice to break stereotypes and outdated ideas that were handed down to us

[verbal verge]

For sure, and I've definitely felt a pull towards witchcraft ever since I learned about it

To me, being a witch just means you practice witchcraft

And what exactly you practice varies witch to witch

But I suppose I also understand a bit more in depth the non-stereotyped information of witches and witchcraft

So it's not an insult in my mind

It's closer to being like an electrician or a plumber or having those kinds of household maintenance skills in concept, at least to me

Witchcraft is just another skillset in my mind

[worn pine]

I think being a witch is sth you just have to identify as, some witches may not practice anything and still are witches, I went a long time without practicing because I just didn't have energy or time and during that time I wasn't less of a witch

and a lot of people do stuff that would be considered "witchcraft" and don't think they are witches, sometimes they just think it's part of their culture

[glossy delta]

yuhyuh

[worn pine]

I believe this too 🫶

[verbal verge]

I suppose that makes sense

[worn pine]

just another way to interact with the world

[glossy delta]

calling my latine grandma a witch

[verbal verge]

I also tend to not practice much because I'm still a fairly closeted witch

My family tends to believe the more steretypical things about witches, which makes it harder

[worn pine]

one of my grandmas is obsessed with tarot and macumbas lmaoo

[worn pine]

that's understandable, I went through that when I lived with my parents

[verbal verge]

My mom has literally said word for word "It's been reclaimed by Satan" in a very derogatory and negative tone referring to witchcraft as a whole

[glossy delta]

shes like "i can do an ojo when i get back i promise" then yell at me for calling her a witch bc she "blessed this braclet for you hija"

[verbal verge]

Which I feel is both disrespectful to witches and to Satanists /neutral

[glossy delta]

(she calls la limpia "el ojo")

maybe... shes why i have the spanglish i do

me being a satanic witch: i have infact been reclaimed by satan 🙏

[verbal verge]

You get what I mean though that the tone was disrespectful to both

And views it as inherently bad

[glossy delta]

oh no yeah

[verbal verge]

Where I really don't think it is

But yeah so that's where my family stands on witchcraft, so I'm largely still pretty closeted

I have solar eclipse water from the solar eclipse that happened this summer though that I managed to get which is pretty cool

What I really need is some rain/thunderstorm water but that's a little easier to get

And then once I'm moved out I can start actually doing things with that

Alright well thanks for answering my questions

Appreciate you 💜

[echo plinth]

anyone else use tai chi or qigong for energy work? I was taught a bit of it in college and I've forgotten the full tai chi forms but I still use some of it for centering, gathering, directing etc

[tacit patrol]

does witchcraft have any connections with manifestation??

[glossy delta]

for some people yes it's quite literally the same thing or they at least view spells as methods of manifesting

[golden turtle]

After doing a novena this evening and using my new rose quartz tower, I have a strong feeling in my right arm and face of HEAT.

I commented in this thread before that I think I experience chi/qi sometimes. It's stroooong right now

oops, maybe not this thread but maybe in #🕯️witchy

I'm not sure what to do with this but since I've been feeling this a lot, I might talk to a local reiki practioner or someone skilled in energy work to see how I can understand this lol. It's happened too many times to be a coincidence

[austere turtle]

energy feels different from person to person! like to me it feels like static, like a slight buzz. could be that energy to you feels warm? you should do more energy exercises to try and see if it’s identifiable or was just some weird mundane coincidence

[golden turtle]

thanks! yeah, I've had a few instances where I got a very warm feeling while doing prayerwork, engaging with crystals, or similar things. I don't think it's a coincidence. I'll have to try some exercises to see where that takes me~

[slender valley]

is there any way energy can be drained? if that is possible how can i protect my energy and how can i avoid myself from being draining?

[glossy delta]

energy can be drained in a bunch of ways from use of energy to being near folks that absorb energy (knowingly or unknowingly)

[summer siren]

I personally believe that energy can be drained, as natural phenomenon and as spiritual attack from other witches or from spirits.

But I also think it all depends on your personal belief. Of course, cleansing, warding and protecting yourself are always just good ideas that can also help here.

Like, I'm an animist and I think spirits can get into your house like mice and bugs and those can drain energy and when you physically clean your house you also have to spiritually clean it

[grim pollen]

in my beliefs our spirits can be porous, depending on how spiritually sensitive you are esp. keeping up on spiritual hygiene by doing what hyena mentioned are good places to start

[slender valley]

interesting answers, it's just i noticed myself being drained around certain people, but sometimes i feel myself being the draining one

[glossy delta]

maybe veiling could also be a method to look into

[slender valley]

veiling??? may i have a brief intro

[glossy delta]

so wiggling is when you are creating an energetic or physical barrier in order to keep your energy protected and it can also be tailored to keeping other people's energy from mixing with yours!

some people use things like actual veils hats bandanas things to cover the top of their head where a lot of people believe energy comes in and out of

[summer siren]

Wiggling

[glossy delta]

VEILING 💔

[slender valley]

or perhaps its name in spanish, i may perhaps know it on that language

[summer siren]

The idea is that the head is a very spiritual part of the body. It holds thoughts and knowledge and spirituality, and can be very sensitive to spiritual forces, like the moon! When you're veiling, you're wearing a protective covering over your head to deflect those spiritual forces

I think in some cases people are actually protecting their hair...

[glossy delta]

#1114061062900293714 message this is a resource on it!

[slender valley]

thx you

[glossy delta]

in Spanish it's "velo" but idk if that's the correct way to refer to the practice

[slender valley]

now i get you

sorry im just new to this witchcraft stuff

its like not common but also pretty common where i live

[summer siren]

You're good! We're all here to help out!

[slender valley]

this server is being cool so far

[light crow]

y’all have any tips/resources for developing clairsenses?

[glossy delta]

so I know that some people ask their gods to help them out by starting off with something small and then getting up to something bigger so I'm going to use clairaudience:

starting off with like maybe a jingling of bells or maybe a slight tap of something and then working up until you can hear them clearly as like a person would be speaking next to you.

another way is through meditation and focusing on whatever sense you're trying to have and then senseing things past the veil

[light crow]

thanks a bunch :>>

[fluid robin]

Soundbaths are really good for amplifying/calibrating...either through streaming platforms or irl.

[golden turtle]

Going to be learning angelic energy healing soon and I'm really excited. There are some courses online that are pretty attainable for me in terms of budget. I'm going to make sure to vet them first and then jump in. Yay!

I don't want to do energy work as a job, but I want to incorporate it into prayerwork/spellwork for my friends, my family, and myself.

[glossy delta]

YEAHH!! good luck!

[golden turtle]

Thanks Oli! I'm so pumped!

[rose vessel]

wasnt sure where to throw this but heres a playlist of guided meditations ive found helpful/want to try in the future. 🫶

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe_EAyuh3NVI3OOmLfwR7pnBoLDxxqhIL

[silk plinth]

Are there any communities that are focused specifically on the clair- senses?

[glossy delta]

probably! a lot of folks believe that's what mediums use mainly to interact with spirits and stuff
and energy workers as a whole probably will

[golden turtle]

just a general comment that I'm really enjoying working with energy healing~ my next goal is to get a bit better with meditation and improve my clairsenses more to enhance it

[glossy delta]

yeahhh love that for you

[golden turtle]

thanks Oli! it's so cool!!

it's something I never saw myself doing, but now that I found it, I feel really happy~

[jagged laurel]

Hi all! Quick question for you. I was going through the resources - I'm really focusing on energy work for myself in my practice. I feel very drawn to it and it lends itself well to my natural abilities. Anywho, I'm working on healing some past traumas and I've come to realize I have a lot of anger that resides inside of me that I've kept buried and I very much want to release it safely. I've been trying to do so with my energy work and visualizations and meditations, but I am still struggling. I feel like there is this giant cage of anger just stuck inside of me that I am terrified of and I am not sure if there is any energy ritual or energy meditation any of yall may have done before or know of that might help? Thank you in advance!!! ❤️ ❤️ (I will mention the deities I work most closely with are Cerridwen, Morrigan, Athena and Bastet).

[austere turtle]

have you thought about shadow work? /genq what you’re doing is a great way to let go of emotions but sometimes we need to figure out why they’re there in order to feel and free them. finding the root of your anger may help

[jagged laurel]

I've been doing some shadow work with my therapist

[austere turtle]

that’s great! then you’re going towards the right direction. just keep up what you’re doing good luck

[jagged laurel]

Thank you

[verbal verge]

So I've never really done a whole lot with energy work outside of just personal warding/veiling and I have a lot of practice in that

But I'm wondering what more there is to energy work since I'm definitely much more inclined to it than anything else

[austere turtle]

you can use energy work in all aspects of your practice. like doing spells with just your energy, putting energy into your divination like when to pick cards, communicating with deities, grounding yourself, putting energy into your spell work, borrowing energy when you’re feeling low

[verbal verge]

Yeah grounding I've definitely done as well

The other stuff I don't really know much about

I do want to build up the communicating with deities skills so I can communicate with Nyx but I don't really know much yet of how to do that

I'm also not particularly familiar with spellwork yet

[spice forge]

i mean i do small, small energy manip as a stim

just pushing and pulling ehat’s already in my body

[verbal verge]

Oh that's an idea

I never considered that as a stim option

[spice forge]

yeah idk, i just do at as a practtice thing

and its developed into a stim cause i do physicallly move my hands to make it easier

[magic dagger]

Hello. I'm quite new with pretty much everything related to witchcraft but the topic of energy siphoning caught my attention. 'Cause sometimes I feel as if some ppl are just talking to me in order to get something. Oftentimes I find myself drained after talking with these people. So I'd like to know how i can protect myself from people who both intentionally and unintentionally siphon my energy. And also how it works and how to do it. Can anyone please help me ?

[glossy delta]

hi id suggest veiling! its a method of protection for energy! we have some info in #1114061062900293714

[rocky torrent]

how can i start working on my clairs?

[glossy delta]

this is a lil thing i wrote!

[rocky torrent]

ooh thank you!

[manic hound]

hello

[glossy delta]

please stop posting the same question in multiple channels. thats considered spam

[manic hound]

sorry

[distant shale]

My dm is open to who feels this.

[verbal verge]

How can I rule something out as clairaudience vs just hearing things mundanely?

I have history of hearing things even though nothing is actually there. It's most frequently hearing my name called, yet no one seems to be trying to get my attention. This dates clear back to high school even for me, which I am 7 years graduated from at this point.

[worn pine]

ill start by saying im not sure, but to rule out hearing things mundanely you should probably check with specialists, ear or maybe psychiatrist if you think it could be that, idk much about the second option but ik when you dont hear fully well you can interpret sounds as sth they are not (if you use glasses for example, when you cant see sth properly we normally associate it and guess its sth else)

on the more spiritual side you could divine on it, however i strongly suggest the health check up first

other approach could be not relying on clairaudience, if you think you cant trust that then there are other methods to check things or learn things you could work, for starters, once again, divination

[verbal verge]

Yeah I have no idea, I've had it anywhere from between crowded halls at high school inbetween classes to just at home when I'm only home with one other person who never said anything

It doesn't seem like it's preditcable in any way that I can tell and is just sporadic as to when it happens

I only just had the idea that it could be something magical, but I always kind of figured it was some mundane stress/anxiety thing than anything else

[worn pine]

thats a super valid thought, and id say its pretty common, personally my approach is if i dont trust sth i just use another method, but like i said if you can (ik its not accessible in many places) the best thing you can do is a health check up and then decide if you believe is clairaudience

even if it is, if you dont trust it you may as well dont use it at all, wont be the end of you practice

[verbal verge]

Alright. Yeah, that's not accessible right now, but maybe at some point

[worn pine]

thats alright! maybe when you "hear" this things use it as a cue to divine on it, dont just take it as face value right away

[verbal verge]

Fair, I guess it couldn't hurt

The main thing that has me more inclined towards it being some stress related thing is that it's always my deadname, never my chosen name

[worn pine]

nah yeah fuck that, even if its clairaudience they dont need to be heard smh

[verbal verge]

frfr

[viscid field]

Kaboom

[glossy delta]

hi please don't post the same message in multiple chats. Also, if you're looking for services such as teachers that will need to be done in promo

[warm widget]

I'm glad this is still here even tho the chat isn't. I don't like repeating myself. So, very good to know I don't have to spam while looking for the correct tab to chat in

Has anyone ever dealt with energy attacks from strangers that tamper with your appearance and makes you physically sick? This is what I deal with from strangers on the daily and I want to protect myself and loved ones who deal with this daily. I'm trying to think outside the box by asking others for help.

[glossy delta]

Can I ask what kinds of current protections you have up now?

Just to get an understanding of what you already tried

[warm widget]

I tried the whole freezing names of people I knew. It only helped a sliver.
My bf and I have been undoing a lot of energy stuff and interfering with bad energy of people trying to do ritual stuff to heart innocent people.
We have some house protections.
We kinda use energy "wrong" because normally we don't need physical objects. It's usually beliefs. When I get home I can take a pic of the little reif we use to help protect our bedroom which helps a lot

We have crystals, we have jewelry, tattoos, etc.

[glossy delta]

hm my first thought would be to cut off the energy via a cord cutting of sorts so its no longer connected to you

then you could make more long lasting wards that are potentially tied to a non-moving object in your space?

[warm widget]

So, trying to cut off ties to other people tampering with my energy. Best example is like a kitten tangled in a bunch of yarn that's the same color from mulple yarn ball batches.

What's extra weird is that they're able to somehow throw achne at me. Make hair splinters and try to anchor them within my skin. They're not even allowed in the house much. Besides my roommate being friends with some of them. That's their only way in and he doesn't fully believe in the energy stuff.

I also can't hear my dieties anymore like I used to in the past. I feel that maybe part of the missing puzzle. But I'm uncertain and I'm not sure how much other witchy people believe in for what I'm dealing with. Nothing against others. I just somehow have a huge list of enemies bc of subconsciously helping random innocent people that don't deserve the attacks and have no idea what's up. Ya know?

Example I remember reliving this day 3 plus times. But also feeling like I've been repeating weeks if not months to get up to this point. Maybe even years.
Something or many people don't want me getting help.
No idea what dieties could be helping them. But that's the only thing I can think of besides numbers of why they could be effecting so many, so aggressively, and quickly.

And I feel I've been repeating a lot bc I didn't admit this information here.

So, I guess this kinda answers a question of where to start besides making sure everything is reinforced and reclensed energy wise. Maybe see what deity or deities have been against me and the dieties I follow?
I know not everyone gets along and literally could be petty shit. I hope it's something that could easily be solved 🤦🏻‍♀️

Sorry, thinking in text so I don't forget as well and don't feel like repeat will happen if I share my mental notes.

[glossy delta]

ah so i said cutting off ties to the energy itself not the people involved as you said you didnt know them

less cat in cord ball more like cutting holes in a fishing net. the net cant grab you if there are no lines connecting to you

[warm widget]

Oooooooooooooo

[warm widget]

I need visualization like this. I love it. But, I think I should just see myself as a slithery snake. Like the ball python I used to own. Her name was Sky and she was an excape artist.
Last I knew she ran away with my sister's pet hamster 😂
Nothing could contain her.

So, slipping out of it. Like a fish too small for the net?
I feel if I keep trying to cut them, there is a million more to try to cut out of. Like a preset to replace with more nets if one brakes. Like layers of safety nets when walking a tight rope

[warm widget]

Thank you, this helps a lot. My bf tried explaining this to me. But he couldn't find the right words for me to understand. I appreciate your help and patience

I had been shown that Dieties/God's/Goddesses love playing games. The easiest example I was shown is chess. People are chess pieces. The power of the will of people. No matter what direction they're guided in. Their effect onto others is their own fault. Not whom they worship. I was shown this while driving home. So in a sense I guess we are seen like a small simulation game. They're intrigued on what we do with the little bit of guidance of where to move to. To see what we personally will do with that little nudge

[glossy delta]

glad i can help! i am a scholar in metaphor/silly

[warm widget]

😂 I used to write a lot. So, I appreciate this a lot

[warm widget]

I'm guessing this help give no or lack of control to the enemies/people idk?

[warm widget]

Now every time someone tries to do something negative energy wise. I see a black ball python with a durpy fart face while slipping through fishnets and free falling XD

[warm widget]

Okay, I won't lie. The energy work I have to do. It is getting really annoying and old fast.

I'm sorry to everyone here.

I don't know who preset the energy stuff. But it's truly annoying and I'm sorry for everyone it's affecting.

I'm basically undoing a lot of energy bs. I have to roll with energy feels even if I'm like ew, to keep things rolling.

[warm widget]

I'm so annoyed. The chick that owns the Cristal shop near by who likes to curse all her stuff to harm people. Was following me in a vehicle I didn't recognize. She was a fake friend I cut ties with.
She thinks she is the most powerful thing ever and was trying to attack me energy wise to cause a car accident.
Luckily what I had preset is a "touch" method to get myself to be more conscious.
I have to clap my hands, drum the thighs and steering wheel. Even do the tap my face method like I'm trying to wake up.
Making it a distraction from the person attacking me to feel the random taps in their hands, thighs, and face. To break the connection.
She likes to try to take what's not hers from other people. Energy wise and their significant others type of deal.

I'm just really annoyed and I used to buy witchy stuff from her. Crystals, books, art. She is local and closest shop I can go to. Even tho she over charges. My bf and I stopped going bc she makes him uncomfortable and won't stop attacking us energy wise. Especially when we were paying customers

So energy work is being used by people I do know against me. Which makes it more annoying to try to have all guards up, even tho I cut her out of my life too.

I also was protecting a different driver behind me energy wise bc someone was trying to cause them to get into an accident. He already gave energy concentrate bc if I try without concent it wouldn't do anything. I don't force help onto others. So, I have stuff preset only if my help is being excepted and nothing would happen if they don't.

[glossy delta]

I think you may need to look into domething like veiling if your dealing with this much energetic output from others to the point of being somethinf that causes you to become distracted while driving. because thats not really safe for people on roads if your focused so much on dealing with all of this energy stuff and not actively on driving.

[warm widget]

I guess you can say. I'm used to multitasking energy wise like this sadly. It was just a bit extra first thing and made me a bit annoyed. Veiling. Is there a section for that?

Luckily I'm making tea with ingredients that'll help. I just didn't get to make it before hitting the road this morning.

[glossy delta]

it would be under #1114061062900293714

[warm widget]

Thank you

Okay, I won't lie. Medication is hard for me bc it usually makes me fall asleep 😂😅
I guess the meditation type is what I have to work on. I do have rings and necklaces that help a lot I wear on the daily. I do clean them energy wise. Maybe it's time to clean them again...

[glossy delta]

i use active meditation

[warm widget]

I just remembered something. My bf said he got something from a chick years ago. She had messing with me energy wise super bad. It was a wallet. He said it was fixed and gifted to me bc I needed one and he had blessed the life out of it.
Could I still need a new wallet because it was cursed af prior to someone who has strong ill will against me?

It's old, and warn bc if was a cheaply made wallet. I like it, but I feel it wouldn't be a bad thing I had to have it replaced. I just don't like being that person and believe it could still be getting tampered with.

[glossy delta]

you could do a curse breaking if you feel like its needed on an object

[warm widget]

Curse breaking so, I don't have to get rid of it? Or curtain things?

I'm used to ah, turning the energy of curses into something else. I hadn't thought about breaking them I guess you could say

[glossy delta]

#1114060015867793451 message you can even use this to see if your cursed at all

[warm widget]

Oooo. That was easier than I thought. I'm already drowning paper tickets I was doing a ritual to untangle myself from the enemies.
A flash of light to see it worked

[glossy delta]

but yeah curse breaking
#1114060015867793451 message
#1114060015867793451 message
#1114060015867793451 message

[warm widget]

Jesus babies. Like dang, that's a lot of stuff and on the list I've already been doing a few. Even with my bf looking at me funny. Like, what did you do, I feel better 😭

I sadly don't have matches

[glossy delta]

toothpicks work

[warm widget]

Dang it. Roommate is somewhat of a baker and we don't have tooth picks. It's okay, I think I know other substitution methods.
Thank you. I hear screaming of those who are trying to do me harm. Every time I'm cleaning back energy off of my stuff and recleaning and charging my blessings

[warm widget]

Thank you. I wish I had toothpicks tho. I did the string methong with my tea bag strings again. It works so well. I have permission from everyone who lives in the house. Even the one who doesn't fully believe in all the energy stuff to help them energy wise that they can't tell they need help with.
He just thought it was super weird I was asking permission vs just helping.

[glossy delta]

solid glad it worked

[warm widget]

I almost forgot to toss one of my rings into the batch and just noticed I didn't add my necklaces. Doing that now

I broke curses to be able to clean the downstairs bathroom. Finally!!!!

[devout anvil]

Bought two candles one lavender and the other vanilla, going to be using the lavender one for energy work and cleansing and the vanilla for my altar for spirit work yippeeee