Baneful Magic
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Welcome to our community discussion thread dedicated to baneful magic!
Hey
I am not sure if this a correct place to ask, but i do wonder what other methods there is than Matchstick Test, egg cleansing & test and divination to find out if you have been jinxed, cursed or hexed?
tbh i only really know about those methods. I'm sure there are other folk methods but since they are folk methods you would have to learn how to do them by the people they come from unless they are closed (like the egg test)
but if you haven't you could check through #1114060015867793451 to see if there are any other methods there
Thank you, i checked it too before i asked here 
ah okay I would also maybe look into wards that could detect if one has been cast on you? it might not be able to tell you if you have been but I could help for future cases
Such a good idea, thank you.
going to curse someone for the first time later tonight, any advice? (i have the basics down, but is there any lesser-known stuff?)
way too late but i hope it went well!
thought - would it be overkill to bind someone and hex them too?
hm if you feel like both fit the situation then I don't think so?
lol i chickened out /lh
Any advice for a hex for someone who judges others and accepts no judgement towards them? I’m thinking maybe one that gets worse the more they judge but any other advice would be good.
feel free to @ to reply
maybe something that lasts until theyve "learned their lesson"?
ok but like. people dont really associate the bad things they go through with the things theyve done yk? so if ure hexing them to teach them a lesson be warned that it probably won't help
oh its worked for me like that in the past so thats why i suggested it /nm
ahh thats good then
yeah ik, which is why i want a correlation hex. Judging = things getting worse bc everytime they judge things get worse.
I kind of want to hex my friend's boyfriend for being severely sexist but I haven't practiced (ever) and I don't want to do something wrong/insult anyone (except for that man lmao). He's awful and keeps ruining my friend, but she loves him dearly and does not want to listen to me. I'm slavic so I don't really want to use anything outside of my culture. I kind of wish they'd just break up?
well i would definitely not recommend doing a hex for your first spell / practice ever. being unprepared can cause the spell to backfire especially if you arent sure of what your doing.
i would also suggest making protections before doing anything
yeah I get that, but I also feel like I've been hexed myself? and he really deserves it
i would also be sure that you are aware that if your friend finds out that your the reason for the breakup she may not be happy with you and might stop being your friend
being hexxed doesnt exactly make you ready to hex others
I don't want to sabotage her happiness but it's more or less for her own good, he keeps giving her jealousy issues + literal sexism issues
when she has been a girl's girl before now she's just. uh
not
im not saying to not do it but be aware that if she finds out, the consequences can be that she no longer trusts you or wants to be your friend
taking others relationships into your own hands can cause them to not want to trust you if they find out.
i also, again, will say that since youve never done anything spell related before jumping into hexing isnt going to be safe since you can do it wrong and it can backfire on you since you dont know what your doing
try starting with making protections for yourself and learning about the basics of spells before jumping into hexes
that's not something I'm worried about, she doesn't believe in that kind of things and I doubt that she'd ever take it to heart
but yeah I might think about that more, thanks for the advice!!
TW ||abuse||
Hello, so first of all, i’ve been practicing doing spells before and they worked thankfully to my intention. But i haven’t cursed anyone, but im pretty sure i had the confidence to do it on this specific person since they’ve been ||abusing me since my childhood|| ,i can’t say their identity but they live in my house. And recently they stole my gold bracelet that was given by my family member that worth 2k. So i rlly wanted them to get backfired for all their wrongdoings all this time before they get worse on their actions. I cannot take their disrespect anymore.
So is there any ingredients that will help the spell work more affectively? I already bought some chilli powder, oil, blackpepper, some garlic powder and etc. is there any suggestions on what ingredients will make it more affective?
i also got the candles and stuff already, js need more recommendations on the ingredients and maybe some specific item (?)
ah I'm so sorry that's been happening to you but please be sure to spoiler and cw triggering content like tw ||abuse||
omg im so sorry wait let me edit it
Also hexing or cursing someone that lives in your house is probably not the best idea since it could effect other people that also live in your house by association if that makes sense?
like the hex/cure will be something that lingers around your living space which could effect the others that live there as well as you.
That actually make sense
but i think that i really needed to do it this time to them. I’ve been thinking about it for ages and they kept pushing me to the top of my head
if you want to do it anyway we can't like stop you but I would place VERY strong protections and wards for yourself and the others you don't want effected first, while also understanding that this curse might still effect everyone that lives in your house not just the person it's aimed at.
Okay, if i were really ab to take the risk, whats the ingredients/specific items that could make it more affective?
As for ingredients: glass (preferably broken), mirrors (also broken, this helps with like reflecting on themselves), citrus (it helps sting), mold is also used in curses a lot, isopropyl alcohol (also for stinging), if you have a catcus: the little needles (this is for longer lasting pain since the little things get like stuck in your skin and are pretty hard to get out), pins (sewing or safety ones)
as for i heard from another witch, they said that grave soil also did a big help. But ofc they said to bring offerings when entering to the graveyard. Is it appropriate to do so?
so we actually have a whole dirt correspondence list! #1121860704467701890 message
this is a link to a BUNCH of different dirt correspondences including grave dirt and even funky things like courthouse dirt!
from what I know though: graveyard dirt is used in hexes, but I believe getting permission and leaving offerings are essential when getting it and if you can get it from the graves of ancestors that's better than doing so from strangers
Im so sorry for late reply i was busy with work ^^ , THANK YOU SM you’re very helpful in sm things and im so grateful i asked u.
I see, alright. I’ll do more research before starting my action. Thank you again ^^
your okay!

Anyone have easy to digest resources on baneful work
we have a channel in #1113290782007369859 with tips on baneful magic! all the practices channels have a corresponding resources channel
What protections should I do before baneful work
I have big ideas but idk how to protect myself other than cleansing and having protection candles around
I would say to start off small try not to be going into very deep and harsh kinds of painful magic and stick to smaller stuff before working yourself up
Idk if what I'm planning is considered deep tbh
It's just something I came up with and it's all I got 😭
I would stick to jinxes and hexes before jumping into curses
but also say that you should have your basics absolutely completely down and if you need to disassemble one you absolutely need to know how to do that
I would also say that you need to be sure that you are comfortable with any of the consequences that can come from you doing hexes on other people
like you have to be comfortable if something happens to them and you're the cause for that
I did want to do a curse tbh
jumping straight into cursing before doing either of the other two and not knowing at all what you're doing can cause for bigger backfire
like obviously you know what spells are but if you haven't done anything painful before I would not suggest jumping into cursing
baneful
sorry type talking
I understand it's just there's only one person I want to curse and idk if I should maybe hex them first or something ?
so the issue with baneful magic is that if you don't have anybody too practice on you kind of have no way to practice
Well there is a couple people
you can try going with hexing first and seeing if that works and then move on to curses if you're comfortable with that but like I said you have to be aware of any and all outcomes that could be stemming from your magic right
like just be aware that there is a chance this could harm them and if it does are you okay with that.
I'm 100% not trying to talk you out of doing anything I've done it so I'm not judging you but you NEED to be comfortable with the consequences because you can't really undo baneful stuff
I would also say to look into warding a lot like make sure that you have wards make try to make multiple if you can but boarding is going to be a bit more helpful than just regular protections of course you can always use more protection and warding is just a stronger version of that
I understand... I'm kinda at a point where I'm just trying to figure out how to actually do it
I have a couple wards
A home guardian and a witch bottle but idk if that's enough
hm idk if a home guardian is a ward so much as a protector? but we do have baneful resources if you haven't looked through those
#1114060015867793451 message this is what we have on cursing
we don't have much on baneful magic
this is also our stuff on warding #1114060224924491907 message (there's more in that channel)
Is cleansing the area with incense a good ward
hm that would be cleansing not warding
this is also some warding basics #1114060224924491907 message
I thought I read in one of the resources that it could be used as a ward 😅
well yes but you would still need to like make the ward energetically? like the incense smoke isn't making the ward
So is a home guardian not a ward? I heard a lot that they where /genq
I don't know shit about home guardians tbh I don't know how they work at all sorry 😭
I thought they were just like spirits you tied to something
so idk
It's ok dw !
do they protect your entire home? if so they might work that way but again I don't know
They do iirc
that might work? but imo you can never really have too much protection so extra warding wouldn't like hurt
Stupid question but can u hex someone then curse them later on
yeah
also thats not a stupid question!
you can also turn the hex into a curse by expanding on the existing hex
hm so they can do a bunch. bringing pain (they are sharp and hurt if you get stuck with them), "sticking" them in place (you use them to hang things to the wall), "pushing" them into a situation (from the term pushpin). depends on how you wanna use them
Oki tysm
yeah np!
oh one thing i forgot to mention yesterday with protection is that you can also use baneful protections in your craft if you wanna try practicing baneful but dont have people to hex
How do i do that? /Genq
so you could make wards that have baneful consequences on the people that try to break them, you can make spell jars using baneful ingredients to keep you safe that kind of thing
Ok I may be stupid or not idk but I did a hex my first one and idk if I did something wrong
um well im not sure? since idk what you all did (also your not stupid!)
I got a courgette that was going off to symbolise the person and I put salt on it and put thumbtacks in it then I wrote their name on paoer and stuck it to the courgette with a tack then I dripped black wax on it
I can't throw it out yet until maybe tomorrow and hmm I just don't know if i did it right
that sounds like a decent one? (idk what a courgette is tho)
We call them courgettes in uk but I think they're zucchinis in other parts of the world
I stole my MILs courgette to do it and I feel bad cos she was wondering where it went 😭 she has another one tho so it's ok I think
OH
okay that makes sense 😭 i thought it was like a fancy word for corset 😭
but that sounds solid
Oh good 😅
Is it ok to cleanse after the spell cos I forgot to at the beginning 😭
I forget to cleanse all the time
ah i mean sure! i would rec to cleanse before any baneful in the future tho
Rusty nails in baneful magic ?
yeah you can use them
What do they do ?
i believe they are used for protection? since like iron and stuff
they can also be seen as like deterioration (the nail is old & rusty), pain (is a nail), protection (the presence of iron in the nail causing the rust)
also could be influenced on where you got the nail
like from a school could make it good for school related matters, a coffin nail would be solid for use against human spirits
anyone know what angels trumpet could be used for in baneful magic?
What is an angel trumpet /genq
well it can be used as a method of carrying out its harmful reactions
trust me i dont wanna kill anyone ToT
its commonly known to have unpleasant hallucinogenic effects in low doses, but im not sure how that could tie in to its use. perhaps nightmares or hearing the voices of the one they wronged?
But poison plants are used in baneful work alot iirc
yea thats why i collect them when i see them. carefully of course
I wish I could collect some but idk if there are any here lol
i have foxglove and angels trumpet, and after i research some more i know theres water hemlock growing around where i live
yeah also maybe something like being sorrounded by negativity bc of how easily you can get its negative effects? bc: "You can get poisoned by touching, inhaling, or eating almost any part of an angel's trumpet."
Ohh wait I've seen foxglove here
ooh thats a good take
ye a lot of ppl grow it cuz its pretty
also- have you guys ever seen a rose thorn that grew two points instead of one? i kept it because it felt special but idk what to use it for
oooo
i have not but thats super cool
maybe like super baneful protection?
bc the thorn of protection grew another thorn of protection?
oooo- maybe like having a thorn of protection with an extra point to harm anything that tries to harm me?
yeahh~!
if stringing it on a necklace is something you can do, i feel like wearing it around would be super cool
ooo- my only worry is that it would get damaged ToT since the tips sometimes break off once it dries
ahh valid! hm maybe you can find like a cute little locket thing? but even if you dont wear it you can def still use it that way!
thats a good reason to get a locket! id be able to keep cool trinkets around :0
what would be a good way to make someone unsuccessful in finding love? just making their next few relationships unsuccessful/painful to where they are less confident, mostly
My first though is something with rose thorns
also if possible mold versions of confidence plants?
i dont have any moldy plants sadly- ill see what i can do with the thorns though🤔
instead of using mouldy herbs, can i burn the herbs to use in a curse/hex? /genq
Yep! Burning is a really popular method for any kind of spell. Tbh I wouldn't recommend burning anything with mold on it because it may be bad for your health
yes yes! since i want to spell this curse fast i don’t wanna wait for herbs to be moulded so i figured maybe i can just burn them instead
if it gives the same energy, why not
Yeah most people just go with dried for the majority of their herb needs. They last longer and are safer
since specifically most people says you have to use moulded herbs for hex/curse, that confused me a little bit
wouldn’t it still work if i use the herbs dried/burned?
I've only ever really heard of people using dried herbs unless they're doing something very specific
So yeah dried is fine, especially for burning
not only for burning so let me state it again to be clearer, in case if i couldn't express myself well
the reason i intend to burn herbs is to use them in a curse instead of using mouldy herbs
so i was asking if it would replace the mouldy herbs and function the same way
@woeful glade
@meager notch
sorry why me 😭 i'm no good with baneful magic
sorry i just pinged 2 more ppl i saw online😭
Ah Oli actually might currently be asleep
Yeah like I said earlier. Burning is actually a really popular way to do any kind of spell. When it comes to spells, more often than not, it's the ingredients and intention that matter- not the method
thank you! i wasn’t sure since almost everyone thinks it has to be mouldy
Yeah that's not something I've ever really come across tbh. If it's something you're seeing on like tumblr or tiktok, I'd definitely recommend taking it with a grain of salt
sure
I'd be careful cause it migh pressurize and make the jar crack
yeah mold is pretty common in baneful but i would suggest making sure its not somewhere that will be near you or others. Depending on how you do spells you may want to dispose of it outside your home (into the main dumpster or trash can thing where you live (idk how utilities like that work outside the us))
i mean you dont HAVE to but its def reccomended
and i mean like just putting it in the outside trash if possible
or asking your partner to and just telling them it got moldy
no i mean like you dont want that energy with you /lh
bc mold reacts and stuff
Yea and glass wont absorb it like plastic
Thoufh i missed the part where its a hex and you wouldn be keeping it around anyways
woo!
Assuming your not digging into said bin- yea thats okay
when you want to curse but can't really put the said curse away from your home-
how are you planning on doing this curse? /genq
well i had an idea for a jar but again i can't keep it away from my house + dont want to put it in someone else's property
hnmmm is there any way that you can transfer it into like a letter and then you can send the letter so that way it's not in your house?
nooottt really no
If possible you could wait until garbage day and make it then (throwing it in the bin before the truck gets there) so it stays at your house for a very minimal amount of time- picking compostable materials will help have it not cause more trash
^^^
ahh got it!
Heres my playlist for when im doing baneful workings!! Hope yall enjoy it lol
Hey guys, whats the difference between an execration and a curse? Is it like execrations are ones you write something down and tear it apart? So like an execration is a type of curse? Am I understanding that correctly?
i think execration is just like the act of cursing. its like denouncing something or calling it evil
actually if im understanding it correctly execration texts are usually also seen as like exorcisms
hmm, I looked it up and all I got were like you write the name of an enemy and then you damage the item that bears the name. Would a voodoo doll count as an execration?
voodoo dolls are closed to voodoo
so i wouldnt knwo
know* since thats not my practice
No I know I was more trying to find an example of a nonwritten form of an execration
Like I put an image of a person on a tshirt and burn it or something
"Execration rituals, from the earliest to the latest, were enacted by writing the curse or incantation on a red pot and then smashing it"
(im reading a world history page)
yeah thats similar to what I found
" In an execration ritual, one was destroying the elements of one's enemy which gave that person power and substance: their name and their likeness."
so like just cursing i think
like the act of any kind of curse would be a execration
does that make sense?
yeah thats what I concluded too
this is genuinely so interesting to read about
I was asking in another magick server and they were reluctant to give me details. Its cool to use whatever words to help in your practice but "execration" seems kinda unnecessary when we have "hex" or "curse"
this is specifically talking about how modernly they are somtimes used when relationships end badly: "These rituals now go by many different names formally or informally but all involve destroying the gifts, property, or likeness of the person who caused the end of the relationship. Burning of pictures, letters, and souvenirs of the past is central to these rituals which allow one to let go of the failed relationship and move on."
yeah i think its just like cursing/hexing or like cord cutting rituals
yeah the only reason i would think it would matter if you are talking about like the exact method but even then its a bit pedantic?
bc it seems to cover a LOT of ground
Yeah like I know of a cutting ties ritual where you take a wishbone or a chicken bone and write the name down of the person you no longer wish to communicate and then break the bone. I would label this is a hex, if that
yeah I would personally just stick to calling it baneful magick as opposed to execrations
yeah same i guess its just a preference thing 
thanks for helping me clear that up. I wanted to press the other server some more but I dont think they'd take that kindly lol
Do you, or other practioners, feel a change in energy when they do baneful magick? I suppose this question is asking more broadly about personal experiences in charging energy but I hope its cool. I just sometimes struggle to know if the procedure is done correctly. Baneful magick is one of those things that if it worked, I would have a result confirming. I've had mixed opinions on the matter
yeah your fine to ask! so i dont actually have the most practice with offensive baneful magic as much as i do with defensive baneful magic simply bc its hard to do offensive if you dont have a target yk? but for me i can definitely sense when my baneful wards are strong and sturdy! it feels a bit like having a barbed wire electric fence surrounding my space personally
its also something that might not feel the same to everyone (like with almost all magic) simply because of how we all interact with magic differently. not all of us have the same levels of magical sense or have the same senses active so how we perceive magic can def change with that.
That's true, I have a servitor and like a ward set up but I often can't tell if it's working. At the same time I dont want to invite people to test unless I know them lol I think its a senses thing
You should Def ask! Either the servitor itself, your spiritual team, or do divination on it. You never want your protections to be flakey.
@sour arch
thank youu
yeah no problem!
Hi againnnn does anybody have any tips or like advice for how i should go about with hexing somebody who (for 1 truly deserves it) and doesnt know how to treat people nicely like an ex who wants to start rumors etc please @ me <33
what are you wanting the hex to do?
oh sorry forgot the @
its fine but i really do intend for it to make this person stop, or get something worse in return for the damage
you could do something like shoving a nail through a paper with their name to "stop their actions in place" (kinda like nailing something to a wall)
Thankss anything else, like that could possibly bring bad luck maybe or slight ||harm||
well nails, push pins, broken glass are all good for the harming aspect. broken mirrors especially are good for bad luck
if you want their actions reflected back to them a mirror under a spell would work
Thank youuu
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Okay so I've been working on writing a spell in which I hex the hell out of my ||ex abuser|| who is no longer in my life (so all is safe!), but I want to do a cord cutting and then send all that terrible energy right back at his dumbass. I've been preparing for this with house protections, protections over my room, and a protection ritual amulet I'm working on. Would anyone else have suggestions to help prepare? I'm also going to do it outdoor and incorporate TW alcohol ||fireball into the ritual to absolutely singe the hell out of his candle once the cord is cut||.
This will be my first time with baneful magic so I would appreciate any and all advice! 
I was thinking of dressing my candle with protection and empowerment to take my power back and then just absolutely destroying his with every spicy herb I've got in the cabinet
that sounds pretty solid I would just also say to please get fire safety equipment
bc alc fires are v scary (they get big fast)
I'm going to do it outside in a designated area with sand!
gotcha!
I'm thinking about doing it during a full moon at night, too? Unless a new moon might be better but definitely also want to do it in a fire sign
you could also use nails and or glass
I don't know too much about using the signs for spells but both the new moon is good for new beginnings
so I feel like cord cuttings are a good idea
unfortunately the next new moon is a Pisces so
oh but his sun sign is pisces so actually...
and we are currently in the sun sign of Pisces (dual Pisces)
the next full moon is in Libra and is also the eclipse
mmmmmm yea libra wouldn't be ideal
(idk anything about astrology lol)
also just to cover my butt and clarify this was someone who tw abuse ||intentionally harmed me in every way possible so he def deserves this one :)||
i didn't even think of the pisces full moon thank you!
when you're adding trigger warnings please be sure to like also add what the trigger warning is for (like "same warning as above)
oh shoot yea i can do that!
oh the new moon is in Pisces the full moon is in Libra 
ah gotcha!! i'm trying to get better at tracking where the moon is at
if you'd like you can look in the events and it has all of the moon phases for this month!
you can also grab the "it's just a moon phase" role and you'll get pinged once a month for it 
oh sweet i'll defintiely do that!
thank you! i have a lot of prep to do beforehand :)
oh my god the new moon is on his birthday
oh he's so done
LOL and i'll be in the state that i was in when i knew him
wonder what the natural grocers cashier thought of my purchase of red pepper flakes, the hottest hot sauce I could find, and chili powder salt
he gave me a little bit of a funny look
hot sauce challenge, xtreme edition
LOLLL
I did a reading last night and got the gist someone has put a hex on me. I want to protect myself from it and anything in the future, plus create a spell to send the energy back. Are there any resources for that?
yup! you can use protections and then a return to sender!
both of which are in https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114060224924491907
thank you 💜
SOS did i just mess up a ritual? tw mentions of ||abuser|| and alcohol. ||I finally did my ritual to send my abuser back any pain or baggage I carried, returning his actions to him and release them from myself. Usually my spells are a hot mess but this one was REALLY a hot mess… I accidentally extinguished his candle with fireball but rolled with it, putting his candle back into the box with Al the spell materials and shaking it while binding it with a rune. Decided to throw it away in the dumpster because I’m throwing out his trash self. I aggressively threw the box into the dumpster in our parking garage (not outside!) and with the god awful aim I have, severely miscalculated and the box shattered on the side of the dumpster. Half of it went into the bin and the other half fell into the corner along with his candle where I can’t reach. I’m paranoid that the box opened back up… should I interpret this as anything or something extra to protect myself?||
I mean I wouldn't necessarily say that it's a sign /gen
if you don't feel safe with it being open tho extra protection won't hurt
The spell wasn’t written to enclose his candle in the box or seal it so im trying not to take it too seriously
The good news is, during the cord cutting, it was quickly cut by my flame and then absolutely obliterated him, which is what I wanted to see
yeah exactly like mistakes/accidents are sometimes just that and not related to spells at all
yeah!!!!!
love that for you and I hope it goes well!
I got too fired up (pun intended) and just HURLED the box at the dumpster so also I could’ve just been a bit blinded by the anger 😭😭
honestly valid lmao
Also weird thing that I noticed! Idk if anyone has experience with cord cuttings, but before the cord was cut, my flame was bright and alive while his kept dimming down, leaning toward the twine, and going blue? Like, weirdly blue, I’ve never seen a candle flame do that before. It kept trying to extinguish itself
I think his energy was trying to make the spell itself stop
you might be right tbh
it was kinda a fight through the whole thing. my candle wanted to start, but not his. It didn’t melt all the way down and extinguished with the ||fireball||. Mine stayed strong and consistent through all of it
yeah just for future make sure you aren't extinguishing fire with alcohol as that can cause like tw ||house fires||/gen
I also felt like my guides might’ve been throwing me off to make the spell more impactful lmfao. I changed the location to the river I view as protective, his candle didn’t melt all the way and instead ended up rotting in the corner behind the dumpster, ||fireball|| extinguished his flame.
oh yes! I was outside next to a river and was attempting to make the fire burn brighter, I did not expect it to put it out lol
I also had my roommate spectating who works with fire prevention and lived through a house fire 😭😭 I was ultra maxed out for this one thinking I was gonna make a big flame from mixing ||alcohol|| with fire. Instead they sat there laughing at me as I kept failing to light matches and extinguished the spell with ||alcohol|| on accident LOL
“||fireball|| has too much sugar in it to make a flame bigger.”
“…oh”
oh yeah some alc can't make flame higher but it's better to be safer than sorry imo
unintentionally being safer than sorry 😭
nothing in my life ever goes to plan and I live in chaos and each spell I do somehow completely derails from what’s in writing and I live for it at this point
Great I found this Chanel lol. I need a second opinion on something
Oh I can't add pictures 😕
You have to be level 3! It’s pretty easy to get to just by being active in the server!
Of course!
just chatting a bit should do the trick 💜
I'm kinda nervous lol. I mean stuff like this where ik my practice is where I flutter but I'm a little shy, I'll warm up lol
Thank u tho!!
That's fair! Interact at your own pace /gen
Does this have any restrictions btw. I had a server a while back who were vary conceded about some stuff I had to share. They weren't the best about this subject. Not that I was doing anything outrageous ofc lol. But just asking cause I don't want to disrespect the server.
all of our restrictions are located in our rules nothing triggering (unless properly spoilered), nothing against discord's TOS (so no Gore no depictions of violence no advocating for violence, etc)
and for the triggering mentions those are subject to moderators action as well if we deem them as too much for the server
\ You can also message @jagged sleet first and we can tell you what would/wouldn't be okay if you're still unsure !
^^
Ok great now how would I do that on pictures tho. I saw how to do it on text in the thingy
The spoiler I mean
when you're posting on mobile if you click on it you'll be able to see that for the pictures if you're on desktop I think it's right clicking the image or just clicking the image and it should pop up there too
I still don't have that option so I have to edit my file names to have SPOILER at the front
Anyway so the blue light in the top corner is what I wanted. An opinion about
Left corner
Any other pic it didn't show up
mundanely it looks like light interference from being near such bright light in a dark space
actually it looks like it's showing up in two different places up in the upper left and then right near where the book is on the right
it's kinda~ above both flames which could be a thing from the flames (again for a mundane reason)
oh that’s so weird. was there a light source above them?
The room was dark
those are some BRIGHT flames. congrats :)
is the cloth it's on reflective at all? /genq
to me I don’t feel like a weird or bad energy from the photo if that helps
it looks reflective
oh huh I thought it looked matte
is it made from a sort of like pleather material?
Idk cause I asked lilith and my ancestors over
oh are you Jewish?/genq
No
No im not not Jewish/gen
Why would that matter/genq
Lilith is closed to Jewish practitioners so if you aren't Jewish you can't work with her because she won't reach out to you if you're not Jewish
she's a Jewish demon only found in Judaism 
From any research I've done certain things are closed withe her but not her completely
\ She is entirely closed /nm
nope she's entirely closed because she's only found in Judaism and you have to convert to Judaism in order to work with her.
this is just a curiosity question bc I have friends who are Jewish, is she closed to like specifically an orthodox or reform path? maybe that’s a stupid question 😭
she's not closed to any specific path
iirc
I'm not the end and be all of Judaism tho lol and I'm also not a rabbi
oh cool! what scripture does she come from if she comes from a scripture? /genq
I'm not entirely sure which book she comes from because I because I just haven't read that far lol
ahhhh gotcha gotcha
one more question I am so sorry lol, does she have any connection with the astrological Lilith symbol? /genq
I'm honestly not sure! I don't know much about astrology as a whole so I don't know where all of the names come from especially when it comes to like the differences between the nine main parts of astrology like the charins and the Lilith stuff 😭 (downfall of being a non-astrology girly)
charion*(?)
oh interesting!!! I’m gonna look it up I’m so curious
time of the night where I go down my daily rabbit hole of research
OH WAIT. question. That was a question because I’ve got a character in my book named Lilith bc the book is about zodiac signs. just read that the name actually originated in Babylonian and Sumerian societies?
nope!
lilitu and Lilith are completely different beings
lilitu are a type of demon and Lilith is a singular demon
oh w h a t, Wikipedia says that Lilith is another name for Lilitu
Wikipedia can be wrong /lh
lilitu and Lilith aren't related at all since she is a demon of a specific type rather than being a type of demon
a lot of people use the Babylonian connection in order to justify working with her
as non-jews
but at best it's just a name similarity and not at all related to anything else
I am so glad I had this conversation. good lord. I need to go rename a character bc I took the name from astrological terminology
specifically bc lilitu is the overall name for them and they are also broken down by gender iirc?
\ A lot of history unfortunately does this, in some way they water down modern (or modern in the historical context) concepts and relate them back to a common ancestor of sorts. It's frustrating cause the link usually isn't that strong other than "well it's the same place just x years later so clearly it makes sense" as if immigration or original thoughts don't exist
are there any sources that can definitely separate the Jewish Lilith from the Babylonian Lilitu? I’m finding a whole bunch of sources that combine them and it’s driving me up a wall
I mean a lot of them are going to just because of how much it's been spread across especially pagan spaces unfortunately
a lot of the issue is that they refer to Lilith as a goddess as well when she just like... isn't and never really was.
oh yea that I’m not seeing anywhere even with Lilitu in Babylonian origin
clarification, that being calling her a goddess
so from what I understand lilithu are Mesopotamian not Babylonian
hello why is there an h there
I did say Babylonian earlier didn't I

y'all please I can't read
🤝
archeology is so 
Idk if anyone said this but the lilitu are Mesopotamian wind spirits that don't really even have anything in common with Lilith in Jewish mythology
Do you have a source where I can read about this?
Not off the top of my head but let me run and check rq
that’s what I’m trying to find right now and horribly failing
that’s how it’s mf making me feel
Ok! So! There's a couple places she pops up with Mesopotamia
But none are specifically named Lilith or have the same mythology as her. Just similar associations which is generally considered not enough to consider them the same being (that's kinda like saying that Lugh and Apollo are the same because they're both sun deities that rule over a lot of different stuff)
Yup that makes total sense, Norse mythology has this same problem with some of the spellings of Loki’s name
archeology. 
Hey
I'm searching for resources on radionics, specifically vampire boxes. This was the closest approximation as I'm aware that this leans more towards psionics, however, the nature of the box and it's design lends itself towards baneful magick more than anything else. Anyone have a lead? I'm aware of one manufacturer, but he seems to do them on a case by case basis.
we dont have anything like that here im afraid
the only thing im finding is someone selling them for 100$ but im not seeing listings? just like a "hey i do this" on a random website
oh well actually http://www.charlescosimano.com/psionics-contents.html#:~:text=Ray
Hand Resonator-,Psionic Vampirism ,-The Radionic Notebook
idk if this is helpful
https://www.vrilock.com/single-post/2020/02/04/Psionic-Boards-and-Radionic-Boxes also this but idk if its specifically about vampire boxes?
(im gonna be 100 w you ive never even heard of this before rn)
It is! Unfortunately, what I need is an actual manufacturer of such a box. I've seen it at work, but I do not have the skillset for creating such a thing
ahhh okay
yeah im not seeing folks selling them unfortunately just a lot of info on like making your own?
Yeah even the information is lacking some data about their creation, and there are a few interlinked skills required which I do not all have at once. I know there are people who can create one, but they seem to be endowed with all that's required to do it. I'm in need of the mechanism that it deploys, but the only alternative can vary in effectiveness.
I'm hoping at some point I can find a skilled craftsman that is familiar with the inner workings of it's crafting.
honestly best of luck to you! it seems like a really intresting but niche type of magic!
Yeah I've only ever seen baneful practitioners or black magicians engaging it, though unfortunately yes it's a little niche
i will note that we dont use the terms black and white to describe magic paths here as those are both terms rooted in racism (unless you mean like magicians that are black in which case ignore me)
Ah, news to me! I'll adjust accordingly. What do we use to address magick that's often affiliated with that term?
we have these alternatives as well as describing the magic used (aka baneful magic users which is a mouthful but)
#💬general message
Okay, that's more useful information. Thank you very much
yeah of course! sorry i couldnt help more but best of luck on resources!
Much appreciated
I'm dealing with a pretty intense situation and if anyone can give me guidance on how best to protect my space dealing with it I would be so grateful. TW: Mention of ||death||, ||animal death|| and ||reapers||
||First off, I am very inexperienced with reapers so if anyone knows more about them in general I'd love to learn more. I believe that a friend of mine's partner is jealous of me or doesn't like me for personal reasons. I assume it's because she feels threatened by our friendship. Anyway, he recently came to stay with my partner and me to hang out irl for the first time. The first night he was here, a reaper came and forced visions of my own death and the aftermath of me dying upon me. Fully freaked out, I smudged my bedroom and proceeded to go to sleep shortly afterward.
For the next few days, there were tricksters in my space generally causing havoc. I didn't feel as though they were related to my friend's partner, more so just excited by the energy shift in my space probably.
Once my friend had travelled home, I decided it would be a good idea to do some spellwork as a peace offering to his partner. I performed a spell for clear thinking between the two of them. The intention was to "clear the smoke and let the water cleanse." After I did the spell I felt very content and I had a feeling that she had received the energy from the spell willingly and with open arms.
Fast forward to last night, more than likely the same reaper that gave me visions of death was back outside. I had performed protection spells prior so he wasn't able to get inside. I felt as though the reaper was taking the soul he needed to be dismissed? I believe that he took the life of a wild animal outside. I was talking to Hades at the time and he informed me that he had to talk my friend's partner out of sending the reaper for my soul. Medusa appeared shortly afterward and petrified the reaper. My partner asked her to take the head of the reaper back as a message to the witch that sent it in the first place. Gaia also volunteered to warn her alongside Medusa.
I am feeling a little out of my depth here and I can't help but feel like shit's about to hit the fan between my friend and me. If anyone can help me protect myself and my space better, I would be so grateful.||
hi quick question and I'm sorry it has not much to do with your situation but are you native american by chance?
my partner is native descent
i believe hes half native on his moms side
and they are connected to their tribe?
yes
ah gotcha the smudging bit is why I asked bc that's specifically a native American ceremony not one just anyone can use
right on
onto your like actual thing:
have you tested to see if your hexed or cursed? or have you looked into dream meanings at all?
I'm only asking because when you're dreaming of things that involve ||death|| & ||reapers|| it doesn't necessarily mean actual death but more so like a really drastic change in your life is coming to fruition
is it okay to talk about the results of the egg cleanse i did before i knew it was appropriation?
it wasnt a dream i was completely lucid during the visions, only with my eyes closed
generally I would say no because if you aren't reading those results correctly then you're not going to be able to properly tell the results?
if that makes sense?
okay yes definitely makes sense.
i will do the matchstick test now 🙂 just gotta go find some bloody matchsticks i know theyre somewhere 😄
OH highly misinterpreted that whole thing then 🫡
no worries!
if you don't have matchsticks you can also use sewing needles or toothpicks!
you basically just need something that's light enough to float on top of the water and not immediately sink
oh awesome ill use toothpicks! thank u
okay so i just tried matchstick test twice and both times they touched but didnt cross. curse failure 🙃
dunno why they tried to curse me im literally so swag
LMAO
XD
so the only thing that I can possibly think of is maybe making wards specifically for any magic from those specific people so basically like wards against their spiritual team if that makes any sense
because my thing is how are they strong enough to control a Reaper if they aren't strong enough to make a proper curse that would affect you 😭
yes that makes a lot of sense. i know what their spiritual team is vaguely just dont feel comfortable sharing it cause its not my place to tell 🙂
im just too stronk i dunno
and reapers usually by default are pretty neutral because ||death|| isn't like a bad thing nor is it like something that they do maliciously
so if a Reaper is on their spiritual team it's probably not consensual which sucks cuz like reapers are just bros
i mean my partners druid so with both his and my magic combined its pretty difficult to break through ig?
like as somebody that does a lot of ||death|| work I find that reapers are pretty neutral and they don't really care about people so much as they care about doing their damn job
literally tho! theyre so swag i had one come tell me my grandma was gonna be okay and she went to the hospital the next day 😭 i was like: at least shes gonna be alright
yeah like if this is happening as a thing from them. it either isn't a Reaper and is something pretending to be or you got like one that's being sorta forced :/
either way icky stuff
so your best bet is probably just blocking their entire spiritual team as a whole!
you could even possibly do a spiritual cord cutting in which you cut the ties of any spiritual connection you or these other people have
oh i like that idea
that was a thought that i had as well. but then i also think it could have been forced which hurts my heart fr
100% but I hope I could help and I hope you can get them to stop 
thank youu i definitely feel like a ward is in order, never done that before but hey, im more than eager to learn!
im sure theres a lesson in the resources here
wards would be in #1114060224924491907 !
thank you!
What are some resources for use to learn baneful magic and prepare for it
Thank you
No problem!
Can you do the work with no ingredients?
I’m not able to go out at this moment in time to get supplies
I mean it might depend on the working, but there's also things in a lot of kitchens that can be used for baneful workings
And most spells, in my experience, don't really have a time constraint so if it needs to wait a day so you can plan or whatever, you can do that
Ah so that's something I'm not super comfy helping you accomplish
Question:
Is it too late to do a return to sender spell if you've already had baneful magic cast on you?
I feel like you do return to spenders when you realize you've had magic cast on you
senders
cuz like why would you do a return to sender spell if you don't know that anything needs to be returned does that make sense?
My wards were not fresh, and I'm like 85% confident a not friendly person tried to send some negative energy/potentially a curse my way. Usually, my wards are set up to dispel and/or deflect negative energy, so I don't really do return to sender type stuff, but I feel this might be necessary
Ooo ok, I've always interpreted them as protective type spells casted beforehand, so if anyone sends stuff your way it's reflected back at them prior to it hitting you
That actually makes a lot more sense 😅
so they typically can be a mix of both however I feel like that would be the difference between a return to sender Ward and a return to sender spell
I don't really do baneful magic because I don't like seeing people hurt and I always think the universe's consequences will be enough, so I am not super familiar with it haha
Ok cool thank you
because usually when people program return to senders inside of their wards it's so that way there is the protection beforehand where as spells can be cast at any time they both work fundamentally the same way
yeah and that's entirely Fair it makes sense why there would be confusion especially if you only learned about one type
I've been thinking about doing one just in case, and then that question popped into my head
Sutekh has already given me permission to use his altar mirror for the spell so that will definitely be part of it
Anyway thank you so much!
It will give me a chance to use the hot vinegar that's been infusing for years 🤌
I made it back in 2022 before I left for college, just in case I ever needed it, and now it can finally be used
Ok so hi funny story
I am currently cleaning up a return to sender spell that I threw a lot of energy and mind into
Turns out DURING THE SPELL her boyfriend broke up with her 🫡
I don't know whether it's a coincidence or something more because it was kind of out of the blue
Her bf is bffs with mine, and he didn't tell my bf ahead of time, which is shocking
Either way, that was mildly amusing
Update: I am absolutely drained but luckily work is short today
oof yeah for sure treat as a rest day after
I've been thinking about this again and asked Lucifer for what his thoughts were on everything since both she and I worship/work with him to some degree. I don't remember the exact cards I pulled but it essentially boiled down to "She had the right to do what she wanted in reaction to your friendship ending, but you also had the right to do what you wanted in reaction. You both have free will"
that's such a comforting thought in a way. like we are all okay yo have our own reaction
yeah it was interesting
I think it settled my fears about performing the spell in a way?
I'm glad!
I need help removing a server wide hex on one of my other discord servers. Someone is claiming to have hexed it with a tulpa hex, so I was wondering if anyone has any info on that or any info on how to break a hex. Even if its not actually a tulpa hex, just any hex in general for a server roughly the same size as this one- but one where I'm the sole person who practices witchcraft.
please ping when responding
would advise reading this on "tulpas" #1114762929527599144 message
as for like magic removal: https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114060015867793451
a "tulpa" isnt a thing a would be considered a thoughtform in most aspects as for like how you would do a "thoughtform hex" I have 0 idea bc does that mean you are hexed with a thoughtform? is the thoughtform in charge of the hex? is the hex manifested as a thoughtform?
it's a very confusing term overall and kinda (personally) sounds like BS if I'm honest
(like they are bs-ing you (sorry worded that weirdly))
Yeah, as I was doing research it sounded more and more like bs, I just figured I'd ask since someone outside of the server is claiming to have done it right as things in the server hit the fan.
And I mean like this person never even joined the server so the timing was just weird.
I mean you can always test to see if it is (matchstick test with the server in mind)
or just banish anything anyway and make digital protections
I'll do that, thank you!
i have a hex which you surely will not regret
and by that i mean do not do this if you are not well into your craft and knowledgeable about hexes. hexing is a choice and not one i’ve ever made outside of this. work with caution.
i call this the rage hex. it’s simple, but it packs a decent to extreme punch.
you will need
• a red candle
• the name of the target
• something belonging to the target, whether it was made by them or came from them etc etc
• red pepper
• any spicy thing you can get your hands on
• an egg
• a plastic bowl you don’t particularly care about, tupperware works
• a || knife ||
• anything prickly (safety pins, nails, claws, etc)
directions:
create a salt circle, light your candle, and set your intention. the strength of your rage decides how strongly this hex will hit, so be wise with your intention.
write the name of your target on a paper or leaf. fold away from you, then light with the candle. release the ashes into the bowl.
put your pepper and spices into the bowl. you don’t need to mix them. they will burn the target with tenfold the pain that they’ve caused, over and over again until they understand the pain they’ve inflicted unto others.
next is your taglock. put this in the bowl, whether you decide to rip it up or break it beforehand is up to you.
put your pricklies in there. mostly around the edges of the bowl, the target is going to be trapped in their own malice and met with no respite.
put your egg in the center of the bowl. this represents your target. now take your || knife || and || stab || the egg. over and over again. until it’s basically shards. until you feel like every square centimeter of pain and anger you feel has been delivered into the bowl and its contents.
wait for the candle’s flame to calm, and allow your emotions to calm with it. turn the candle out, then sweep the salt circle into the bowl both to put salt in the wound and as a layer of protection between yourself and the negativity in the bowl.
discard contents however you like
to give you an idea of how damaging this hex is, it caused the target to lose his job and all romantic relationships and some friendships, as well as get into a || car crash ||
would you want this to be something that the server as a whole can use? if so you can copy paste this exactly into submissions and we can add it to the baneful channel /gen
totally!! do i just type it into the submissions channel??
yeah or I can just copy paste it from here lol
dw i can do it :))
AYOOO guys someone has been FUCKING with me and it was ||traumatic|| !!! long story short i was sucked into a rlly ||abusive|| friendship dynamic and treated got like shit!!!!!! i do have autistic ||ptsd|| (NOT diagnosed but highly suggested by my therapist yaayyy) so i rlly wanna give them a hex- this would actually be my first hex- i know nothing about hexes really as i unfortunatly got sucked into the love + light witchy community early in my practice so any tips or ideas would be SO helpful mWAHHHH :3
ALSO as far as ik they are not witchy only protections they probably have is a rlly old protection spelljar and like a crystal maybe
i have over 5 years of experience in witchcraft so not a beginner as well :p
for reference i do not even go to the same school as this person anymore (bc they made me drop outt 🙃 ) and on EXTREmELY RARE occasion do i see them in public
can you please be sure to spoiler mentions of ||abuse||
as for giving advice do you understand and know the consequences that can happen from hexes? I know you're saying you're not a beginner but have you done research into the consequences of baneful magic before if not I would highly suggest doing that first because baneful magic is a very big step up from like non-baneful
yup i totally understand without strong protections in place and mundane measures things can get out of hand + also the energy needed to perform a baneful spell is a lot
also sure sorry!
I mean more so the effects that painful magic can have on the people that you're affecting.
this isnt the kind of magic that you can really take back once you've done it because as soon as you do the spell the effects go into place and if you're not liking the results you're seeing you can't really take away whatever trauma or pain or side effects they have because they will have already gone through that
*baneful 😭 my phone hates me so much
I hope that makes sense?
i dont have contact with the person anymore and they where not nice!!! so yea but i feel like thats lowkey a no brainer no offense
😭 but thanks anyways truly 🐞
(the person was REALLY not nice)
the reason I'm asking is because it's not a no-brainer not everybody is comfortable with causing the same kind of pain and Trauma to the people that caused it /lh (but also point out that putting no offense behind something doesn't necessarily make it not offensive for future reference)
and like I am understanding that these people kind of fucked you over but I am saying that it's not the type of magic that you do without being entirely comfortable with the idea that you are the reason why they are going through whatever it is that they're going to go through I hope that makes sense.
you are going to be the person that is responsible for whatever traumatic and horrible stuff that they end up going through via this hex. make sure your entirely comfortable with that before going through with it because you can't take back whatever it is you're about to do
sure you can end the spell whenever you want but you're not going to be able to take back the experiences that they end up going through
I'm not a person that is against hexing.
I don't care what you do personally. you do you but be sure your comfortable with the magic your about to preform bc it's not something you can erase by ending the magic 
im not doing a CRAZY hex haha just a 'feel what i feel x 10'
sort of thing
but yes thanks for the disclaimer much appreciated
you just said that you have ||PTSD|| right? so like 10x means they have to go through something 10x worse to get that. this is sort of what I mean by being sure that you know what somebody has to go through in order to get the effects that you want.
again do whatever is comfortable for you but I'm just trying to make sure that you are comfortable with whatever it is you're going to do
you seem okay in that aspect though so I'll go ahead and just direct you to our resources we have information on hexane cursing we have spell ingredient methods all of that is going to be in our baneful resources Channel
that has a bunch of info and also how to go about cursing and hexing as well as return to sender methods
a lot of painful magic isn't shared though due to it being such a divisive kind of magic
*baneful 😭😭😭😭
I'm literate I sware
😔 nvm
hellooo! i'm not too late to the conversation, am i? i have done a bit of research on things one can do for baneful magic (from ingredient lists to different rituals and spells as well as entirely different practices and more) and would love to help! have you done something already or are you still in the planning phase?
sorry for the pin btw >.<
it's 5½ a.m. in australia..🤧🤧🤧
Taglocks - there’s distance involved. Writing the name and date of birth alright?
yup that should work
Just wondering, what is the prime lunar phase for hexing?
I think it might depend on what you're attempting to hex for
since that will probably correspond better with your intention than an overall phase of hexing.
like if you want them to crash and burn by blocking their path: new moon (no light for them to see their path)
if you want them to have shitty relationship issues: first quarter (this is the phase often used for relationship stuff)
Aight, ritual done. Now we wait.
Any baneful spellwork that just make them see me differently? Basically a reverse glamor spell but only for a specific person. I tried mundane things but they keep being interested and doing advances towards me.
Idk about baneful options, but you could look into invisibility wards to basically kind of hide you from them/their thoughts
That's actually a good alternative. Thank you griffin!
No prob!!
on a painful aspect you could always attempt like a glamor spell but rotting however I'm not sure how much that would affect you because it's hard to explain in a way that makes sense and my brain is not helpful right now
baneful 😭
If you wanted to incorporate music (also cause this is the only way my brain can think to explain the vibe of baneful glamor), I would suggest something like You Should See Me In A Crown by Billie Eilish or Bubblegum Bitch by Marina
yeahhhh
Hi, I think I remember seeing somewhere on this server that domination/love spells can be see as baneful so I came here just in case.
I’ve been using an intranquil candle and a come back to me candle for about a month now and for the past week or so I’ve been having dreams of the person showing up to my house or us being back together. However the person hast reached out to me so should I just give it more time or is there something else I should be doing to help me
well first love magic isnt really baneful but it can lead to really harmful results if you arent sure or prepared for what your doing
and secondly all magic needs mundane action to work. you can do all the spells you like but if you cant comfortably reach out to this person mundanely magic isnt going to fix that.
and it could be that your magic isnt working bc they have protections (knowingly or not) against spells like that on them
love spells are generally looked down on in magical spaces bc your taking free will of others away by forcing your own concept of what love looks like onto them for your own gain (their affection)
but that kind of work can lead to a very touchy situation of them not returning your feelings but feeling trapped to do so bc your magic
#1114061294820135032 message this is the love magic v domination magic post thing
either way, try reaching out. if they dont respond well or respond at all leave it alone. magic also takes time, my spells arent deemed ineffective until 3 months in. and if your not seeing results after that 🤷 maybe they just dont wanna be with you
I have reached out recently and we had a nice talk we are friendly with each other but I don’t want to just straight up ask to work out our situation since I’m not sure of the reaction I will get but thank you.
yeah i mean depending on how the situation ended you may need reconciliation not necessarily love based magic? like if feelings are still there then the issue would be handling the past not forcing love thats already there?
i would highly suggest reading on the situation to see what you need to do moving forward since i only really know whats been said there
here*
would also suggest giving #1114763097920503819 a look to see if you can find a clearer answer for the dream
I’ve been looking into reconciliation but I’m having a hard time (kind of overthinking) figuring out what will work for me or help me.
He has a really hard time communicating that’s why it’s hard for us to talk through our problems and that’s also why I don’t want to force him
I’ve tried doing a reading but honestly Im an over thinker and I second guess myself on readings
hm well if you feel you need a reading id suggest #599790755208232960 and if you need something to help with like clear communication id rec:
(gimme a sec)
this spell (sob sent it to the wrong chat)
however if you arent trying to push the issue what you may need is patience
bc this would be the beginning stages of you and your "new" relationship which may mean your starting over from the beginning in having to re-trust each other and stuff. Try reaching out like you would a friend first and build from there?
Yes makes sense thank you!
hope yall work out! /gen
Before i start baneful magic, what should i have setup?
you should generally have protections in place. some people say that not being angry is important others say that the use of anger or the emotions tied to the reason you're doing painful magic is important that discernment is going to be entirely up to you.
I wouldn't recommend it to beginners that have never done spell work before so if this is your first push into doing spells at all I would generally state that starting off with other spells is important in helping you understand how your spell casting methods work and what works best for you.
as a general setup you should probably do so in a space where you are comfortable with feeling the emotions tied to the reason you're doing the spell casting
what you have in terms of like tools is going to depend on what exactly you're attempting to do and what all you have available
I've mainly worked with sigils and spell jars, should I do more just spells before trying baneful? Also for protections, wards would be ideal, yes?
this is also going to be the time where you decide what method of spell you're doing and whether or not you want to keep it or dispose of it and your space should be in a place where you can do either one in a comfortable manner
can I ask what type of spells you've done so far
the reason why I asked this is because if the only thing that you have done is protection there's not a lot of feedback you get from spells like that that allow you to understand how you know when your spell work is working and how you know when it's not
ah ive only done protection lol
Should I get a better grasp on spell work then, before coming to baneful?
I would say so yes. this is so that way you can learn what feedback from your spell work looks like
Alright, do you have any spell recommendations for that?
most of the ones in #1114061294820135032 should do the trick!
stuff like self love, focus, etc all are things you have a tangible outcome
bet
Hi! I'm a beginner witch and i was wondering if you should do banishing and cleansing spells before baneful magic? And if you shouldn't then how long do i have to wait after doing banishing and cleansing spells before i can do baneful magic? xx
Please don't post the same question in multiple chats as it's considered spam
As for your question Personally I'm a big nut for cleansing before anything. You don't necessarily hae to Banish unless your dealing with something specific you need to get out, but it's always good to know.
...
This
I feel you
theoretically if someone was being mean to me and i want to both cut them out of my life and bind them so they stop. in which order should i do the spells
i'm going to assume the binding first and then the cord cutting but opinions are welcome
binding then cord cut.
bc otherwise the cord cutting could be reversed when doing additional spell work on them
yeah that makes sense thanks vespian
smh someone tried to do baneful magic on me it seems
oh bleh
they didn't succeed thankfully
but i'm gonna do cleansing and redo my protection spell just in case
what is baneful magic?
Baneful magic is the blanket term for things like hexes and curses
Guys, is there anyone experienced in casting extreme curses and would like to share knowledge with me ? I genuinely just want someone to exchange advice with and I don't know where exactly to post this. Please DM me 🙏
im not comfortable with dms but i will ask: have you done spellwork outside of cursing?
Yeah I am practicing witch for more than 4 years and even did some minor curses. I want to deepen my knowledge how to do more serious ones. Thank you a lot for answering 🫶
So the difference between a "lesser" curse and a "serious" one is intention
You can use pretty much the exact same ingredients for 2 different spells there, the intention behind them and the will power that you decide to put into it. It's going to make or break the difference on how "powerful" it is.
Which is why learning intention and understanding the concepts behind what makes your spell work work
is fairly important
Just as the same can be said for using the same ingredients in a spell that help dreams, as you would in a spell that causes nightmares, the difference there is intention.
I understand but I never really thought this was the key. I got from your bio that you're also a Lucifer devotee, may I ask if you have any experience including him into your work ?
ah so that's a too personal for me if i'm being completely honest
It's not the only aspect of performing stronger, painful magic.You also need to be sure that you are completely aware of and okay with the consequences as well as being well prepared as a whole for potential backlash from stronger spell work
I completely understand don't worry. Grateful for the advice regardless
baneful* sorry speech to text
In my opinion, doing spell work that is "stronger" requires more preparation, which means that it takes longer for you too act on it
And the reason why I keep using quotations around the terms stronger or lesser, it's because these are personalized kinds of distinctions that you make for your practice
Somebody can do the same spell that you would consider stronger or more impactful, but not view It that way. So the way that they would go about doing said, magic would be different from you, does that make sense
It's a really interesting point I never gave much thought to but I would agree with you
we're doing baneful magic today and utilizing cat litter 
circe putting her work in finally 🙌 👏
she's paying rent!

did a big baneful spell yesterday with my roommate and called on aphrodite and hekate for help, they showed up in the wax as a woman figure and a bird!
and got confirmation from my cards that it was successful 
HELL YEAH! i need more irls im glad you have that support system and help
sending you lots of love myth <333
tysm!!
How do i learn to do this, I am new and wanting to learn.
i would not suggest beginners get into this kind of magic until you have a solid concept of your basics and spell crafting as a whole
Ok thank you because im new to witchcraft and i want to learn it.
yup id start with not doing this and focusing on basics
ok ty
my friends and I are gonna do a group hex (we're each bringing a name)
Hi is baneful magic like magic used for bad stuff like hexes and stuff? I'm new, I don't know if a hex is bad but I think I've heard of it before, just wondering
"bad" is a subjective term, but baneful magic is magic, used to harm people
Okay thanks
There no such ‘ good ‘ or ‘bad ‘ magic everything has two sides. Baneful magic is used bring harm to others but it’s a important part of healing a witch that can’t hex is the witch that cant heal
What is everyone's favorite baneful herb/plant to work with? I just started using datura and its been a trip.
Boneset I think, easy to grow perennial or black pepper
Honestly I’ve grown ghost peppers for a few years now and I end up using them a lot
Guys what would happen if i did a hex spell without a protection spell
That hex spell could backfire and if it does there's a possibility it can return to you
As in whatever you did to another person would instead affect you or your loved ones
...well good thing I did a protection spell
I'm only a baby witch why am I already hexing people
And doing love spells...
Baneful Magic 
Baneful magic checklist: #1114060015867793451 message
| Fundamentals
Before starting, are you new to the craft? Baneful magic can very easily backfire if you don’t know what you’re doing. Make sure you have a good grasp on the fundamentals such as grounding, cleansing, warding/protection, and banishing before performing baneful work. You should also very clearly know the differences between jinxes, hexes, and curses and have an idea of which one you would like to do.
| Protection
Ensure you are well protected, baneful magic can easily backfire if you are not protecting yourself during spellwork. Make sure you understand how to dispose of ingredients properly and put distance between you and the spell as you are casting it. If your target is well protected, you want to make sure you have protections in return. They may have return to sender wards, or a very protective spirit team. Make sure you have a plan to properly dispose of the spell and cleanse and ward after!
Omg thanks so much for that know I know what to seriously do instead of just going straight forward
Good evening everyone! Does anyone know any good ways to discover if your family may have been cursed? I am a baby witch and don't know where to begin with these sort of things. I have reasons to believe we are cursed but I don't know if it's magic or coincidence. Sorry if this is too personal.
#1114060015867793451 we have a matchstick test in this channel near the top
Thank you, I appreciate it 🙂
Can I substitute a matchstick or do I HAVE to use matches? I do not believe I have any in my house right now since my family always uses lighters.
If you have toothpicks, you can use those as well. i've also seen people use cue tips without the cotton parts.
You pretty much just need something that's going to be light enough to float on the top of the water
Awesome, I have Cue-tips! Thank you very much!
I did the test and we are not cursed nor has anyone attempted to curse us! Thank you!
yay! super happy for you
how much experience should a person have before doing baneful magic? I always see people say it’s not for beginners but I don’t know what that means
like how many spells until you aren’t a beginner? what kind of spells should you have experience doing?
beginners as in folks that dont have a good amount of spells of different kinds and dont know how to navigate their own spell work effectively.
do you know what you are doing? do you know why? are you stable enough in your craft and your decision to do baneful magic that you wont regret your actions? do you have a solid protection system?
its not how many spells youve done its how well you know spell work
I guess I just don’t know how to know if I know enough cause I don’t have a lot of other witch folk in my life
well we cant tell you if your comfortable enough in your practice /lh
yeah I know… I just don’t know how to improve my skillset, if that’s what I need to do
I don’t take hexing/cursing lightly, that’s why I haven’t done it I just don’t know how to know if you’re ready for spells like that
I’ve sure wanted to this year, and the people who hurt me have now hurt my family this last month
but I don’t want to worsen the situation because I got angry
You'll be able to know by answering the questions that I listed above
We can't make this decision for you. It's one that you have to make on your own. Nobody can tell you when you specifically are going to be ready. Because that kind of path isn't the same for everybody
When you have and are stable enough in your practice to be able to answer all of those questions fully.And completely without doubting yourself, then I would say that you are ready.
But there is no stagnant number or set way to go about doing your practice to make you ready for this. Because you are going to be doing magic that is harming people, and that's a decision that you have to come to terms with in on your own
that makes sense
If you want a clearer, more cut kind of thing for this, then I would suggest using the thing I linked before here, which goes over whether or not you have a good grasp on the fundamentals, whether or not, you know, the differences between the different types of baneful magic and so on.
i 100% get wanting to be safe and not rush into things, and I applaud you for being cautionary about it
But it's not something that we can give you a numerical answer in terms of "being ready".
When or if you do decide to do this kind of magic, I am wishing you the best of luck!
thank you, I will try to study up
I do think I need to improve my protection magic first but I don’t think I act impulsively
then i would hold off until you are sure and you have a solid base of protection.
I think one of my new favorite things to apply baneful magic to is necklace pendants. I have a couple that have shut toxic people up immediately and caused other people to lash out at the offensive party in my defense. Forever wearing these necklaces to work!!~ ♡
Hey, I am in a bit of a rough spot. I don’t know if I’m allowed to write this here or where to turn to, please tell me if this is allowed.
I think I’ve dealt with a lot of hate and envy from others, and people know I am spiritual so I think they might have done something to me. I’m not really a person who attacks others (or even gossips about others), I just want to mind my business and do well in life. So I don’t really know why anyone would want to harm me.
The thing I am going through is brain fog, lack of energy, and things that I own that are constantly breaking. It feels like my life is falling apart and I can’t keep up anymore. I don’t know what to do and I am looking for solutions here.
I’ve done an egg cleanse, I regularly do return-to-senders, and I cleanse myself. Meditating has been difficult with the brain fog so I haven’t been able to do that anymore.
What would be possible solutions for this? Are there any spells or practices I could try?
firstly are you latino? asking since egg cleanses are closed to latin american folks
i would also do testing to see if you are getting baneful magic as a whole directed to you in the first place and if its not that you may need to see a doctor. brain fog is often a symptom of medical stuff, so rule that out before assuming its magical
this is a great open method of testing and we also have things like curse breaking and protection
I’m not, but my friend who performed it on me is. I don’t know what the rules are but she did it because she was worrried for me, and it did help for while 😔
As for the brain fog, I’ve already done multiple check ups and screenings. They just come up blank.
I just now tried this and it came up as a V, so that confirms that there are some people that probably wish me harm
if your friend is then its fine that youve had one preformed.
the v does mean it failed though so i would up your protections, banish negativity, and focus on being safe. doing too much protection is also a thing that can result in low energy levels, which might result in you having brain fog and can lead to other issues like being clumsy.
if you want wards and protections we have #1114060224924491907, but if you are doing a lot of return to senders when there is nothing to return (ie no actual curses) then you are likely expending energy for nothing
this is a thing on uncrossings which might be the most helpful thing here! #1114060224924491907 message
Thanks for the information and clarification 🙏🏻
I’ll make sure to check it out^^ Thanks
no problem and i largely hope it helps! dealing w constant stuff like that is never fun (mine is from the curse of chronic fatigue
)
Yeah, it’s exhausting 😭
One question though, can’t return to sender be used for energy and wishes as well? So if someone is wishing ill and speaking Ill of me, can’t I just return that energy if it is felt?
so yes! however, youve tried that already, and nothing worked and its still harming you to the point where you arent feeling well, meaning that what your focused on returning isnt there
so it might be that there is no individual ill will towards you but something of a collective curse? familial, group setting, etc
Woah I never thought about that 🤔 How can I tell if it’s something collective or a negative entity attached to me? I hope you don’t mind me asking
so my general answer would be to read on the subject with divination if thats something you use.
asking your spiritual team is another option (again if you have one)
if you want to see about a negative entity, and dont have the things listed above: banish your space from negative entities (and i stress banishment over cleansing bc one more like a jet stream at an issue and the other like a bucket of water, both get rid of it but one is a lot more direct)
if you find that your issues are going away after then youve likely banished the thing and can go about making protections
for a collective curse you may need to do the matchstick test again but instead of focusing on yourself individually you should focus on collective groups you belong to 
Thanks for helping me out 🙏🏻
I just tried the matchsticks again but for different groups and they barely even touched. I’ll check out entity banishments^^
I’ve been doing a bit of research but I feel like I need some help.
Does anyone know of any powerful banishment spells that removes entities / spirits?
have you checked #1114060224924491907 ?
Yes, but I didn’t find anything 😅 I might have missed a relevant spell of two whilst scrolling though 🤔.
Do you perhaps know of a spell that could remove entities?
the ones I personally use are closed to my culture so i can only really share those i havent tested
these are banishing
Thanks I’ll check them out
#1114060224924491907 message and this goes over some methods tho not in depth
Banishing, at its roots is very much just like cleansing, but directed at a specific entity.
so if you want to get rid of x entity you would power any cleansing method and aim it specifically at them
Hiii!! I'm getting into witchcraft after a looooong time that I don't practice. I was wondering, what's baneful magic?
It's magic specifically used to harm people.
A lot of people equate it to dated terms like "black magic/dark magic"
but its magic that fundamentally harms people: curses, hexes, protections where enemies get harmed, etc
Okay!! Tysm (and sorry for the ignorance on this topic) 
all good! asking questions is def okay!
how do you cast spells on people
do i just grab a load of salt and herbs and throw them at people?
well i wouldnt start with baneful magic
Do a protection spell first
definitely don't begin with baneful magic if you've never even done spells before
Ok so i need a little bit of help. I dont practice baneful magic much because ive never really had to, but this person got on my last nerves 😭 is there a spell i can do to like make them REALLY feel the consequences of their actions?
They are a very not kind person

since youve never done baneful have you researched the needed basics?
we have #1114060015867793451 id suggest looking there
Ok ty!
Hello,does any knowledgeable & well informed witches know how to break a pre-birth soul contract.
Or have any resource on soul contracts? Are they myb in the “resource” category?
we have nothing on "soul contracts" at all but we do have resources on breaking curses and spellwork
#1114060015867793451 is where spell and curse breaking are located
Okay thanks I’ll check it out💕
@steady plaza this is the channel
Okay thanks!!
So anyone if i had hexed someone and ive got my backfired on me. Should i throw it away?
When its done and everything?
Because its 3 months old and ive got my university backfire on me.
just because you throw away the spell doesn't mean the effects of the spell stop. you would need to properly reverse the hex
on this topic, are there any resources on here for uncrossings?
Holy snickers I'm freaking out, I did a hex spell on 3 horrible ppl which energized horrible energy too strong for me to handle and now my dead great/grand parents had banded me from doing work for 3 weeks-3 months, (I'm a empathetic psychic but my abilities aren't strong) I'm new and idk where to dumb this, does anyone know how to unhex people (does this make sense am I making sense)
My one question for you: did you make some protective wards and ground yourself before you started throwing hexes at people?
in general: you should not be doing this kind of magic if you don't know how to undo it.
unfortunately things like hexes dont just "go away" even if you do undo them and undoing them is also a form a magic. so like if you decide to undo youd be goings against your spiritual teams wishes anyway
I had dragons blood sage but I only smudge one paper, I just put ashes on the next few
are you native?/genq
Descents from my moms side
bc smudging and dragons blood sage (which is just alternatively named white sage) are closed native practices. so you need to be taught how to use them from native folks
thats not really the same thing /lh
reguardless though: smudging is a cleansing ritual not a protection one. so you need to have protections along with whatever you did.
oh god 😭
This.
If all you did was cleanse, you’re just purifying the energy in your space temporarily. You’re not locking out malevolent energies, entities, and intentions that can cling onto you when spellcrafting, ESPECIALLY during baneful work
At the very least you’ve got to have a small protection ward like a protection spell jar but my suggestion is before you start doing any type of baneful shit again (if you decide to try it again), learn more about protections and LAYER your wards up nice and good. The more wards you have and the more specific you are with your intentions when making them, the harder they are to break.
Make sure to always ground when spellcasting too otherwise your energy is going to go all over the place. Meditation, regulating stress, chamomile tea, and intentional practices are all ways to get yourself in the right grounded headspace for doing your working.
^ while I'm not Wiccan, I LOVE casting circles for the purpose of containing/concentrating energy and I find it a grounding practice
I do as well. I cast circles on my bedroom a lot of times before I go sleep as a way to keep my energy protected and honed while in the unconscious world.
Valid valid!
I also frequently perform the LBRP as both a circle casting method and powerful cleanser
it’s not for everyone but I’d recommend it it’s a great ritual for overall protection
Thank u I'm not very good at this I'm still learning, should've done more research bc i've seeing visible shadow ppl watching me sleep
I'm sorry what
Shadow ppl, shadow figures
And this has been happening ever since you did your baneful working?
More likely since I started at 13 (I'm 17)
I'm not supposed to be doing dark magic bc some ppl from my madres family ended selling their soul to satan
we do not use the term dark magic as thats a term rooted in racism
also you cannot sell your soul to the devil. thats not how demons work.
if your guides dont want you doing it thats one thing, and you should take their caution into account, but you can legit do what you want and no one can stop you.
id suggest not doing anything until you have a solid base of how spells work and youve made sure to note that the things youve been experiencing are not medical related.
best of luck
Okie I'm sorry I didn't know that
yeah my suggestion if that continues
Again, get yourself protected and energetically cleanse yourself regularly. If that doesn’t get rid of the shadow people, you may need to do some banishing work
Cleaning can be done tons of ways as can protection work
To cleanse, you could smoke cleanse, sound cleanse, use selenite, do a spiritual bath, etc
For protection work, wards come in all different shapes and sizes
In #1113290782007369859 theres a protection tab with info
do you guys have any advice for making baneful protective wards, or rather transmutive wards that turn someone's negative energy towards you into blessings and abundance? i've been seeing stuff about making one, i already have a protection spell jar i did in the summer but you can never have too much protection! i've been trying to research on it with cross referencing online but i'm not finding too many rources on it for free :((
in general that goes in hand with having a solid foundation in spellwork!
I’ve been wondering about the same thing. I do know of some ingredients that are generally used in baneful protection, like thorns and chili, but beyond that I’m not sure
Selling the soul to satan is very much a stereotype set up by the people who practice particular monotheistic religion moreover I don’t think so any of the infernals are interested in ‘ buying ‘ human souls ( yup that’s appropriate term the term is demon is heavily demonised and narrated inherently evil by people) “ every infernal is not evil and every angel is not good “ they are neutral in nature
Do an uncrossing on yourself because no one can ban you from practicing it’s just stagnant energy moreover do a cleansing and banishment spell and put up protection and wards afterward this moreover do protection always before any kind of baneful working
Layer your ward with different kind of magics knot magic sigil magic protection oils etc etc like be specific what kind of advice you want… talking about ingredients you can use chilly flakes black pepper cloves garlic mustard poppy seeds in baneful ward and about transmutation ward you can use lemon mint lavender basil etc moreover your can use alum and black salt in both baneful and transmutation ward
#1114060224924491907 message I reference this message a lot, in general when making wards!
But for transmutative wards, I use items associated with protection AND abundance (for example). I typically set the items for abundance inside/before the protection items, and usually add a crystal or herb associated with transformation to aid in the process. I set my intentions to something like "Any negativity caught in this ward is transmuted into energy towards my abundance" or something similar
Hope this helps?
Some herbs count for both purposes too. Rosemary is a good example of an excellent protector and abundance bringer
Hi all,
I am looking for a strong banishment spell for a family member who is tvery toxic in my life. I haven't practiced in awhile so I am looking for something that doesn't require a lot of materials. I have experience with spell jars, which seem to work in the past for "minor" things.