#Baneful Magic

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Baneful Magic

Welcome to our community discussion thread dedicated to baneful magic!

glossy wharf
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Hey wavings I am not sure if this a correct place to ask, but i do wonder what other methods there is than Matchstick Test, egg cleansing & test and divination to find out if you have been jinxed, cursed or hexed?

woeful glade
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but if you haven't you could check through #1114060015867793451 to see if there are any other methods there

glossy wharf
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Thank you, i checked it too before i asked here Shiba_SmileHappy

woeful glade
glossy wharf
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Such a good idea, thank you.

drifting lotus
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going to curse someone for the first time later tonight, any advice? (i have the basics down, but is there any lesser-known stuff?)

meager notch
meager notch
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thought - would it be overkill to bind someone and hex them too?

woeful glade
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hm if you feel like both fit the situation then I don't think so?

drifting lotus
boreal mauve
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Any advice for a hex for someone who judges others and accepts no judgement towards them? I’m thinking maybe one that gets worse the more they judge but any other advice would be good.

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feel free to @ to reply

woeful glade
meager notch
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ok but like. people dont really associate the bad things they go through with the things theyve done yk? so if ure hexing them to teach them a lesson be warned that it probably won't help

woeful glade
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oh its worked for me like that in the past so thats why i suggested it /nm

meager notch
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ahh thats good then

boreal mauve
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yeah ik, which is why i want a correlation hex. Judging = things getting worse bc everytime they judge things get worse.

fathom glade
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I kind of want to hex my friend's boyfriend for being severely sexist but I haven't practiced (ever) and I don't want to do something wrong/insult anyone (except for that man lmao). He's awful and keeps ruining my friend, but she loves him dearly and does not want to listen to me. I'm slavic so I don't really want to use anything outside of my culture. I kind of wish they'd just break up?

woeful glade
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well i would definitely not recommend doing a hex for your first spell / practice ever. being unprepared can cause the spell to backfire especially if you arent sure of what your doing.

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i would also suggest making protections before doing anything

fathom glade
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yeah I get that, but I also feel like I've been hexed myself? and he really deserves it

woeful glade
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i would also be sure that you are aware that if your friend finds out that your the reason for the breakup she may not be happy with you and might stop being your friend

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being hexxed doesnt exactly make you ready to hex others

fathom glade
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I don't want to sabotage her happiness but it's more or less for her own good, he keeps giving her jealousy issues + literal sexism issues

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when she has been a girl's girl before now she's just. uh

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not

woeful glade
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im not saying to not do it but be aware that if she finds out, the consequences can be that she no longer trusts you or wants to be your friend

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taking others relationships into your own hands can cause them to not want to trust you if they find out.

i also, again, will say that since youve never done anything spell related before jumping into hexing isnt going to be safe since you can do it wrong and it can backfire on you since you dont know what your doing

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try starting with making protections for yourself and learning about the basics of spells before jumping into hexes

fathom glade
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but yeah I might think about that more, thanks for the advice!!

cosmic furnace
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TW ||abuse||

Hello, so first of all, i’ve been practicing doing spells before and they worked thankfully to my intention. But i haven’t cursed anyone, but im pretty sure i had the confidence to do it on this specific person since they’ve been ||abusing me since my childhood|| ,i can’t say their identity but they live in my house. And recently they stole my gold bracelet that was given by my family member that worth 2k. So i rlly wanted them to get backfired for all their wrongdoings all this time before they get worse on their actions. I cannot take their disrespect anymore.

So is there any ingredients that will help the spell work more affectively? I already bought some chilli powder, oil, blackpepper, some garlic powder and etc. is there any suggestions on what ingredients will make it more affective?

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i also got the candles and stuff already, js need more recommendations on the ingredients and maybe some specific item (?)

woeful glade
cosmic furnace
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omg im so sorry wait let me edit it

woeful glade
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Also hexing or cursing someone that lives in your house is probably not the best idea since it could effect other people that also live in your house by association if that makes sense?

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like the hex/cure will be something that lingers around your living space which could effect the others that live there as well as you.

cosmic furnace
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That actually make sense

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but i think that i really needed to do it this time to them. I’ve been thinking about it for ages and they kept pushing me to the top of my head

woeful glade
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if you want to do it anyway we can't like stop you but I would place VERY strong protections and wards for yourself and the others you don't want effected first, while also understanding that this curse might still effect everyone that lives in your house not just the person it's aimed at.

cosmic furnace
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Okay, if i were really ab to take the risk, whats the ingredients/specific items that could make it more affective?

woeful glade
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As for ingredients: glass (preferably broken), mirrors (also broken, this helps with like reflecting on themselves), citrus (it helps sting), mold is also used in curses a lot, isopropyl alcohol (also for stinging), if you have a catcus: the little needles (this is for longer lasting pain since the little things get like stuck in your skin and are pretty hard to get out), pins (sewing or safety ones)

cosmic furnace
woeful glade
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so we actually have a whole dirt correspondence list! #1121860704467701890 message
this is a link to a BUNCH of different dirt correspondences including grave dirt and even funky things like courthouse dirt!

from what I know though: graveyard dirt is used in hexes, but I believe getting permission and leaving offerings are essential when getting it and if you can get it from the graves of ancestors that's better than doing so from strangers

cosmic furnace
woeful glade
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your okay!

cosmic furnace
stark lake
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Anyone have easy to digest resources on baneful work

woeful glade
stark lake
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What protections should I do before baneful work

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I have big ideas but idk how to protect myself other than cleansing and having protection candles around

woeful glade
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I would say to start off small try not to be going into very deep and harsh kinds of painful magic and stick to smaller stuff before working yourself up

stark lake
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Idk if what I'm planning is considered deep tbh

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It's just something I came up with and it's all I got 😭

woeful glade
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I would stick to jinxes and hexes before jumping into curses

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but also say that you should have your basics absolutely completely down and if you need to disassemble one you absolutely need to know how to do that

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I would also say that you need to be sure that you are comfortable with any of the consequences that can come from you doing hexes on other people

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like you have to be comfortable if something happens to them and you're the cause for that

stark lake
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I did want to do a curse tbh

woeful glade
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jumping straight into cursing before doing either of the other two and not knowing at all what you're doing can cause for bigger backfire

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like obviously you know what spells are but if you haven't done anything painful before I would not suggest jumping into cursing

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baneful

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sorry type talking

stark lake
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I understand it's just there's only one person I want to curse and idk if I should maybe hex them first or something ?

woeful glade
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so the issue with baneful magic is that if you don't have anybody too practice on you kind of have no way to practice

stark lake
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Well there is a couple people

woeful glade
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you can try going with hexing first and seeing if that works and then move on to curses if you're comfortable with that but like I said you have to be aware of any and all outcomes that could be stemming from your magic right

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like just be aware that there is a chance this could harm them and if it does are you okay with that.

I'm 100% not trying to talk you out of doing anything I've done it so I'm not judging you but you NEED to be comfortable with the consequences because you can't really undo baneful stuff

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I would also say to look into warding a lot like make sure that you have wards make try to make multiple if you can but boarding is going to be a bit more helpful than just regular protections of course you can always use more protection and warding is just a stronger version of that

stark lake
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I understand... I'm kinda at a point where I'm just trying to figure out how to actually do it

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I have a couple wards

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A home guardian and a witch bottle but idk if that's enough

woeful glade
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hm idk if a home guardian is a ward so much as a protector? but we do have baneful resources if you haven't looked through those

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#1114060015867793451 message this is what we have on cursing

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we don't have much on baneful magic

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this is also our stuff on warding #1114060224924491907 message (there's more in that channel)

stark lake
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Is cleansing the area with incense a good ward

woeful glade
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hm that would be cleansing not warding

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this is also some warding basics #1114060224924491907 message

stark lake
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I thought I read in one of the resources that it could be used as a ward 😅

woeful glade
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well yes but you would still need to like make the ward energetically? like the incense smoke isn't making the ward

stark lake
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So is a home guardian not a ward? I heard a lot that they where /genq

woeful glade
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I don't know shit about home guardians tbh I don't know how they work at all sorry 😭

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I thought they were just like spirits you tied to something

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so idk

stark lake
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It's ok dw !

woeful glade
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do they protect your entire home? if so they might work that way but again I don't know

stark lake
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They do iirc

woeful glade
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that might work? but imo you can never really have too much protection so extra warding wouldn't like hurt

stark lake
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Stupid question but can u hex someone then curse them later on

woeful glade
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yeah

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also thats not a stupid question!

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you can also turn the hex into a curse by expanding on the existing hex

stark lake
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Ohhh ok

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Also what do thumb tacks do in baneful magic ?

woeful glade
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hm so they can do a bunch. bringing pain (they are sharp and hurt if you get stuck with them), "sticking" them in place (you use them to hang things to the wall), "pushing" them into a situation (from the term pushpin). depends on how you wanna use them

stark lake
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Oki tysm

woeful glade
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yeah np!

woeful glade
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oh one thing i forgot to mention yesterday with protection is that you can also use baneful protections in your craft if you wanna try practicing baneful but dont have people to hex

stark lake
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How do i do that? /Genq

woeful glade
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so you could make wards that have baneful consequences on the people that try to break them, you can make spell jars using baneful ingredients to keep you safe that kind of thing

stark lake
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Ok I may be stupid or not idk but I did a hex my first one and idk if I did something wrong

woeful glade
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um well im not sure? since idk what you all did (also your not stupid!)

stark lake
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I got a courgette that was going off to symbolise the person and I put salt on it and put thumbtacks in it then I wrote their name on paoer and stuck it to the courgette with a tack then I dripped black wax on it

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I can't throw it out yet until maybe tomorrow and hmm I just don't know if i did it right

woeful glade
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that sounds like a decent one? (idk what a courgette is tho)

stark lake
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We call them courgettes in uk but I think they're zucchinis in other parts of the world

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I stole my MILs courgette to do it and I feel bad cos she was wondering where it went 😭 she has another one tho so it's ok I think

woeful glade
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OH

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okay that makes sense 😭 i thought it was like a fancy word for corset 😭

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but that sounds solid

stark lake
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Oh good 😅

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Is it ok to cleanse after the spell cos I forgot to at the beginning 😭

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I forget to cleanse all the time

woeful glade
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ah i mean sure! i would rec to cleanse before any baneful in the future tho

stark lake
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Ye I'll try and remember

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My memory is so bad 😔

stark lake
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Rusty nails in baneful magic ?

woeful glade
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yeah you can use them

stark lake
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What do they do ?

woeful glade
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i believe they are used for protection? since like iron and stuff

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they can also be seen as like deterioration (the nail is old & rusty), pain (is a nail), protection (the presence of iron in the nail causing the rust)

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also could be influenced on where you got the nail

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like from a school could make it good for school related matters, a coffin nail would be solid for use against human spirits

hushed cave
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anyone know what angels trumpet could be used for in baneful magic?

stark lake
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What is an angel trumpet /genq

hushed cave
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its a toxic flower in the nightshade family

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scientific name is brugmansia

woeful glade
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well it can be used as a method of carrying out its harmful reactions

stark lake
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Ye

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Dont actually poison someone with it pls 😭 just metaphorical stuff ig lol /hj

hushed cave
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trust me i dont wanna kill anyone ToT

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its commonly known to have unpleasant hallucinogenic effects in low doses, but im not sure how that could tie in to its use. perhaps nightmares or hearing the voices of the one they wronged?

stark lake
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But poison plants are used in baneful work alot iirc

hushed cave
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yea thats why i collect them when i see them. carefully of course

stark lake
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I wish I could collect some but idk if there are any here lol

hushed cave
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i have foxglove and angels trumpet, and after i research some more i know theres water hemlock growing around where i live

woeful glade
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yeah also maybe something like being sorrounded by negativity bc of how easily you can get its negative effects? bc: "You can get poisoned by touching, inhaling, or eating almost any part of an angel's trumpet."

stark lake
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Ohh wait I've seen foxglove here

hushed cave
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ooh thats a good take

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ye a lot of ppl grow it cuz its pretty

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also- have you guys ever seen a rose thorn that grew two points instead of one? i kept it because it felt special but idk what to use it for

woeful glade
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oooo

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i have not but thats super cool

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maybe like super baneful protection?

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bc the thorn of protection grew another thorn of protection?

hushed cave
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oooo- maybe like having a thorn of protection with an extra point to harm anything that tries to harm me?

woeful glade
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yeahh~!

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if stringing it on a necklace is something you can do, i feel like wearing it around would be super cool

hushed cave
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ooo- my only worry is that it would get damaged ToT since the tips sometimes break off once it dries

woeful glade
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ahh valid! hm maybe you can find like a cute little locket thing? but even if you dont wear it you can def still use it that way!

hushed cave
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thats a good reason to get a locket! id be able to keep cool trinkets around :0

hushed cave
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what would be a good way to make someone unsuccessful in finding love? just making their next few relationships unsuccessful/painful to where they are less confident, mostly

heavy radish
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My first though is something with rose thorns

woeful glade
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also if possible mold versions of confidence plants?

hushed cave
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i dont have any moldy plants sadly- ill see what i can do with the thorns though🤔

prime perch
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instead of using mouldy herbs, can i burn the herbs to use in a curse/hex? /genq

heavy radish
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Yep! Burning is a really popular method for any kind of spell. Tbh I wouldn't recommend burning anything with mold on it because it may be bad for your health

prime perch
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if it gives the same energy, why not

heavy radish
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Yeah most people just go with dried for the majority of their herb needs. They last longer and are safer

prime perch
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wouldn’t it still work if i use the herbs dried/burned?

heavy radish
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I've only ever really heard of people using dried herbs unless they're doing something very specific

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So yeah dried is fine, especially for burning

prime perch
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the reason i intend to burn herbs is to use them in a curse instead of using mouldy herbs

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so i was asking if it would replace the mouldy herbs and function the same way

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@woeful glade

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@meager notch

meager notch
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sorry why me 😭 i'm no good with baneful magic

prime perch
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sorry i just pinged 2 more ppl i saw online😭

heavy radish
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Ah Oli actually might currently be asleep

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Yeah like I said earlier. Burning is actually a really popular way to do any kind of spell. When it comes to spells, more often than not, it's the ingredients and intention that matter- not the method

prime perch
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thank you! i wasn’t sure since almost everyone thinks it has to be mouldy

heavy radish
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Yeah that's not something I've ever really come across tbh. If it's something you're seeing on like tumblr or tiktok, I'd definitely recommend taking it with a grain of salt

woeful glade
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sure

wintry orbit
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I'd be careful cause it migh pressurize and make the jar crack

woeful glade
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yeah mold is pretty common in baneful but i would suggest making sure its not somewhere that will be near you or others. Depending on how you do spells you may want to dispose of it outside your home (into the main dumpster or trash can thing where you live (idk how utilities like that work outside the us))

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i mean you dont HAVE to but its def reccomended

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and i mean like just putting it in the outside trash if possible

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or asking your partner to and just telling them it got moldy

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no i mean like you dont want that energy with you /lh

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  • if your sealing it in it might cause pressure if you add other stuff to it
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bc mold reacts and stuff

wintry orbit
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Yea and glass wont absorb it like plastic

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Thoufh i missed the part where its a hex and you wouldn be keeping it around anyways

woeful glade
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hot sauce if yall have any

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anything that like stings tbh

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ah valid

woeful glade
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woo!

wintry orbit
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Assuming your not digging into said bin- yea thats okay

finite pebble
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when you want to curse but can't really put the said curse away from your home-

woeful glade
finite pebble
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well i had an idea for a jar but again i can't keep it away from my house + dont want to put it in someone else's property

woeful glade
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hnmmm is there any way that you can transfer it into like a letter and then you can send the letter so that way it's not in your house?

finite pebble
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nooottt really no

wintry orbit
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If possible you could wait until garbage day and make it then (throwing it in the bin before the truck gets there) so it stays at your house for a very minimal amount of time- picking compostable materials will help have it not cause more trash

woeful glade
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^^^

woeful glade
potent phoenix
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Heres my playlist for when im doing baneful workings!! Hope yall enjoy it lol

elder spruce
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Hey guys, whats the difference between an execration and a curse? Is it like execrations are ones you write something down and tear it apart? So like an execration is a type of curse? Am I understanding that correctly?

woeful glade
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i think execration is just like the act of cursing. its like denouncing something or calling it evil

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actually if im understanding it correctly execration texts are usually also seen as like exorcisms

elder spruce
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hmm, I looked it up and all I got were like you write the name of an enemy and then you damage the item that bears the name. Would a voodoo doll count as an execration?

woeful glade
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voodoo dolls are closed to voodoo

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so i wouldnt knwo

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know* since thats not my practice

elder spruce
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No I know I was more trying to find an example of a nonwritten form of an execration

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Like I put an image of a person on a tshirt and burn it or something

woeful glade
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"Execration rituals, from the earliest to the latest, were enacted by writing the curse or incantation on a red pot and then smashing it"

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(im reading a world history page)

elder spruce
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yeah thats similar to what I found

woeful glade
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" In an execration ritual, one was destroying the elements of one's enemy which gave that person power and substance: their name and their likeness."

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so like just cursing i think

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like the act of any kind of curse would be a execration

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does that make sense?

elder spruce
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yeah thats what I concluded too

woeful glade
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this is genuinely so interesting to read about

elder spruce
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I was asking in another magick server and they were reluctant to give me details. Its cool to use whatever words to help in your practice but "execration" seems kinda unnecessary when we have "hex" or "curse"

woeful glade
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this is specifically talking about how modernly they are somtimes used when relationships end badly: "These rituals now go by many different names formally or informally but all involve destroying the gifts, property, or likeness of the person who caused the end of the relationship. Burning of pictures, letters, and souvenirs of the past is central to these rituals which allow one to let go of the failed relationship and move on."

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yeah i think its just like cursing/hexing or like cord cutting rituals

woeful glade
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bc it seems to cover a LOT of ground

elder spruce
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Yeah like I know of a cutting ties ritual where you take a wishbone or a chicken bone and write the name down of the person you no longer wish to communicate and then break the bone. I would label this is a hex, if that

elder spruce
woeful glade
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yeah same i guess its just a preference thing Shrug

elder spruce
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thanks for helping me clear that up. I wanted to press the other server some more but I dont think they'd take that kindly lol
Do you, or other practioners, feel a change in energy when they do baneful magick? I suppose this question is asking more broadly about personal experiences in charging energy but I hope its cool. I just sometimes struggle to know if the procedure is done correctly. Baneful magick is one of those things that if it worked, I would have a result confirming. I've had mixed opinions on the matter

woeful glade
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yeah your fine to ask! so i dont actually have the most practice with offensive baneful magic as much as i do with defensive baneful magic simply bc its hard to do offensive if you dont have a target yk? but for me i can definitely sense when my baneful wards are strong and sturdy! it feels a bit like having a barbed wire electric fence surrounding my space personally

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its also something that might not feel the same to everyone (like with almost all magic) simply because of how we all interact with magic differently. not all of us have the same levels of magical sense or have the same senses active so how we perceive magic can def change with that.

elder spruce
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That's true, I have a servitor and like a ward set up but I often can't tell if it's working. At the same time I dont want to invite people to test unless I know them lol I think its a senses thing

molten dawn
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You should Def ask! Either the servitor itself, your spiritual team, or do divination on it. You never want your protections to be flakey.

woeful glade
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@sour arch

sour arch
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thank youu

woeful glade
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yeah no problem!

sour arch
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Hi againnnn does anybody have any tips or like advice for how i should go about with hexing somebody who (for 1 truly deserves it) and doesnt know how to treat people nicely like an ex who wants to start rumors etc please @ me <33

woeful glade
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what are you wanting the hex to do?

sour arch
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its fine but i really do intend for it to make this person stop, or get something worse in return for the damage

woeful glade
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you could do something like shoving a nail through a paper with their name to "stop their actions in place" (kinda like nailing something to a wall)

sour arch
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Thankss anything else, like that could possibly bring bad luck maybe or slight ||harm||

woeful glade
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well nails, push pins, broken glass are all good for the harming aspect. broken mirrors especially are good for bad luck

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if you want their actions reflected back to them a mirror under a spell would work

sour arch
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Thank youuu

woeful glade
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🫡

edgy pumice
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Okay so I've been working on writing a spell in which I hex the hell out of my ||ex abuser|| who is no longer in my life (so all is safe!), but I want to do a cord cutting and then send all that terrible energy right back at his dumbass. I've been preparing for this with house protections, protections over my room, and a protection ritual amulet I'm working on. Would anyone else have suggestions to help prepare? I'm also going to do it outdoor and incorporate TW alcohol ||fireball into the ritual to absolutely singe the hell out of his candle once the cord is cut||.

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This will be my first time with baneful magic so I would appreciate any and all advice! catblush

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I was thinking of dressing my candle with protection and empowerment to take my power back and then just absolutely destroying his with every spicy herb I've got in the cabinet

woeful glade
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that sounds pretty solid I would just also say to please get fire safety equipment

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bc alc fires are v scary (they get big fast)

edgy pumice
woeful glade
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gotcha!

edgy pumice
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I'm thinking about doing it during a full moon at night, too? Unless a new moon might be better but definitely also want to do it in a fire sign

woeful glade
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you could also use nails and or glass

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I don't know too much about using the signs for spells but both the new moon is good for new beginnings

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so I feel like cord cuttings are a good idea

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unfortunately the next new moon is a Pisces so

edgy pumice
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oh but his sun sign is pisces so actually...

woeful glade
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and we are currently in the sun sign of Pisces (dual Pisces)

edgy pumice
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LOL

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perfect.

woeful glade
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the next full moon is in Libra and is also the eclipse

edgy pumice
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mmmmmm yea libra wouldn't be ideal

woeful glade
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(idk anything about astrology lol)

edgy pumice
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also just to cover my butt and clarify this was someone who tw abuse ||intentionally harmed me in every way possible so he def deserves this one :)||

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i didn't even think of the pisces full moon thank you!

woeful glade
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when you're adding trigger warnings please be sure to like also add what the trigger warning is for (like "same warning as above)

edgy pumice
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oh shoot yea i can do that!

woeful glade
edgy pumice
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ah gotcha!! i'm trying to get better at tracking where the moon is at

woeful glade
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you can also grab the "it's just a moon phase" role and you'll get pinged once a month for it bunnywave

edgy pumice
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oh sweet i'll defintiely do that!

woeful glade
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wishing you luck on the spell I hope everything goes okay

edgy pumice
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thank you! i have a lot of prep to do beforehand :)

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oh my god the new moon is on his birthday

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oh he's so done

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LOL and i'll be in the state that i was in when i knew him

edgy pumice
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wonder what the natural grocers cashier thought of my purchase of red pepper flakes, the hottest hot sauce I could find, and chili powder salt

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he gave me a little bit of a funny look

regal bone
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hot sauce challenge, xtreme edition

edgy pumice
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LOLLL

thorny wraith
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I did a reading last night and got the gist someone has put a hex on me. I want to protect myself from it and anything in the future, plus create a spell to send the energy back. Are there any resources for that?

woeful glade
thorny wraith
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thank you 💜

edgy pumice
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SOS did i just mess up a ritual? tw mentions of ||abuser|| and alcohol. ||I finally did my ritual to send my abuser back any pain or baggage I carried, returning his actions to him and release them from myself. Usually my spells are a hot mess but this one was REALLY a hot mess… I accidentally extinguished his candle with fireball but rolled with it, putting his candle back into the box with Al the spell materials and shaking it while binding it with a rune. Decided to throw it away in the dumpster because I’m throwing out his trash self. I aggressively threw the box into the dumpster in our parking garage (not outside!) and with the god awful aim I have, severely miscalculated and the box shattered on the side of the dumpster. Half of it went into the bin and the other half fell into the corner along with his candle where I can’t reach. I’m paranoid that the box opened back up… should I interpret this as anything or something extra to protect myself?||

woeful glade
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I mean I wouldn't necessarily say that it's a sign /gen
if you don't feel safe with it being open tho extra protection won't hurt

edgy pumice
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The spell wasn’t written to enclose his candle in the box or seal it so im trying not to take it too seriously

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The good news is, during the cord cutting, it was quickly cut by my flame and then absolutely obliterated him, which is what I wanted to see

woeful glade
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yeah exactly like mistakes/accidents are sometimes just that and not related to spells at all

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yeah!!!!!

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love that for you and I hope it goes well!

edgy pumice
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I got too fired up (pun intended) and just HURLED the box at the dumpster so also I could’ve just been a bit blinded by the anger 😭😭

woeful glade
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honestly valid lmao

edgy pumice
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Also weird thing that I noticed! Idk if anyone has experience with cord cuttings, but before the cord was cut, my flame was bright and alive while his kept dimming down, leaning toward the twine, and going blue? Like, weirdly blue, I’ve never seen a candle flame do that before. It kept trying to extinguish itself

woeful glade
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I think his energy was trying to make the spell itself stop

edgy pumice
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you might be right tbh

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it was kinda a fight through the whole thing. my candle wanted to start, but not his. It didn’t melt all the way down and extinguished with the ||fireball||. Mine stayed strong and consistent through all of it

woeful glade
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yeah just for future make sure you aren't extinguishing fire with alcohol as that can cause like tw ||house fires||/gen

edgy pumice
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I also felt like my guides might’ve been throwing me off to make the spell more impactful lmfao. I changed the location to the river I view as protective, his candle didn’t melt all the way and instead ended up rotting in the corner behind the dumpster, ||fireball|| extinguished his flame.

edgy pumice
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I also had my roommate spectating who works with fire prevention and lived through a house fire 😭😭 I was ultra maxed out for this one thinking I was gonna make a big flame from mixing ||alcohol|| with fire. Instead they sat there laughing at me as I kept failing to light matches and extinguished the spell with ||alcohol|| on accident LOL

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“||fireball|| has too much sugar in it to make a flame bigger.”
“…oh”

woeful glade
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oh yeah some alc can't make flame higher but it's better to be safer than sorry imo

edgy pumice
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unintentionally being safer than sorry 😭

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nothing in my life ever goes to plan and I live in chaos and each spell I do somehow completely derails from what’s in writing and I live for it at this point

mystic reef
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Great I found this Chanel lol. I need a second opinion on something

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Oh I can't add pictures 😕

serene whale
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You have to be level 3! It’s pretty easy to get to just by being active in the server!

mystic reef
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Ohhhh

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That's smart tho

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Alr I'll wait till then lol

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Thank u

serene whale
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Of course!

light escarp
mystic reef
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I'm kinda nervous lol. I mean stuff like this where ik my practice is where I flutter but I'm a little shy, I'll warm up lol

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Thank u tho!!

heavy radish
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That's fair! Interact at your own pace /gen

mystic reef
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Does this have any restrictions btw. I had a server a while back who were vary conceded about some stuff I had to share. They weren't the best about this subject. Not that I was doing anything outrageous ofc lol. But just asking cause I don't want to disrespect the server.

woeful glade
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and for the triggering mentions those are subject to moderators action as well if we deem them as too much for the server

wintry orbit
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\ You can also message @jagged sleet first and we can tell you what would/wouldn't be okay if you're still unsure !

woeful glade
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^^

mystic reef
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Ok great now how would I do that on pictures tho. I saw how to do it on text in the thingy

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The spoiler I mean

woeful glade
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when you're posting on mobile if you click on it you'll be able to see that for the pictures if you're on desktop I think it's right clicking the image or just clicking the image and it should pop up there too

mystic reef
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Oh I didn't know that

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And I've been on discord for how long now lmao

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Thank uu

heavy radish
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I still don't have that option so I have to edit my file names to have SPOILER at the front

mystic reef
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Anyway so the blue light in the top corner is what I wanted. An opinion about

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Left corner

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Any other pic it didn't show up

woeful glade
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mundanely it looks like light interference from being near such bright light in a dark space

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actually it looks like it's showing up in two different places up in the upper left and then right near where the book is on the right

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it's kinda~ above both flames which could be a thing from the flames (again for a mundane reason)

edgy pumice
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oh that’s so weird. was there a light source above them?

mystic reef
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The room was dark

edgy pumice
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those are some BRIGHT flames. congrats :)

mystic reef
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The only light was the candles and my mirror across the way which is red

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Haha thx

woeful glade
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is the cloth it's on reflective at all? /genq

edgy pumice
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to me I don’t feel like a weird or bad energy from the photo if that helps

woeful glade
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it looks reflective

edgy pumice
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oh huh I thought it looked matte

mystic reef
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It's not

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Reflective

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I wish it was

woeful glade
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is it made from a sort of like pleather material?

mystic reef
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Idk cause I asked lilith and my ancestors over

woeful glade
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oh are you Jewish?/genq

mystic reef
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No im not not Jewish/gen

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Why would that matter/genq

woeful glade
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Lilith is closed to Jewish practitioners so if you aren't Jewish you can't work with her because she won't reach out to you if you're not Jewish

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she's a Jewish demon only found in Judaism bongocat

mystic reef
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From any research I've done certain things are closed withe her but not her completely

wintry orbit
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\ She is entirely closed /nm

woeful glade
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nope she's entirely closed because she's only found in Judaism and you have to convert to Judaism in order to work with her.

edgy pumice
woeful glade
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iirc

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I'm not the end and be all of Judaism tho lol and I'm also not a rabbi

edgy pumice
woeful glade
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I'm not entirely sure which book she comes from because I because I just haven't read that far lol

edgy pumice
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ahhhh gotcha gotcha

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one more question I am so sorry lol, does she have any connection with the astrological Lilith symbol? /genq

woeful glade
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I'm honestly not sure! I don't know much about astrology as a whole so I don't know where all of the names come from especially when it comes to like the differences between the nine main parts of astrology like the charins and the Lilith stuff 😭 (downfall of being a non-astrology girly)

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charion*(?)

edgy pumice
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oh interesting!!! I’m gonna look it up I’m so curious

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time of the night where I go down my daily rabbit hole of research

woeful glade
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🫡

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gl

edgy pumice
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OH WAIT. question. That was a question because I’ve got a character in my book named Lilith bc the book is about zodiac signs. just read that the name actually originated in Babylonian and Sumerian societies?

woeful glade
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nope!

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lilitu and Lilith are completely different beings

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lilitu are a type of demon and Lilith is a singular demon

edgy pumice
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oh w h a t, Wikipedia says that Lilith is another name for Lilitu

woeful glade
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Wikipedia can be wrong /lh

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lilitu and Lilith aren't related at all since she is a demon of a specific type rather than being a type of demon

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a lot of people use the Babylonian connection in order to justify working with her

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as non-jews

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but at best it's just a name similarity and not at all related to anything else

edgy pumice
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I am so glad I had this conversation. good lord. I need to go rename a character bc I took the name from astrological terminology

woeful glade
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specifically bc lilitu is the overall name for them and they are also broken down by gender iirc?

wintry orbit
edgy pumice
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are there any sources that can definitely separate the Jewish Lilith from the Babylonian Lilitu? I’m finding a whole bunch of sources that combine them and it’s driving me up a wall

woeful glade
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I mean a lot of them are going to just because of how much it's been spread across especially pagan spaces unfortunately

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a lot of the issue is that they refer to Lilith as a goddess as well when she just like... isn't and never really was.

edgy pumice
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oh yea that I’m not seeing anywhere even with Lilitu in Babylonian origin

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clarification, that being calling her a goddess

woeful glade
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hello why is there an h there

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I did say Babylonian earlier didn't I

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y'all please I can't read

edgy pumice
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neither can I lol

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I read so many words today I have no coherent ones left

woeful glade
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🤝

edgy pumice
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archeology is so catscream

heavy radish
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Idk if anyone said this but the lilitu are Mesopotamian wind spirits that don't really even have anything in common with Lilith in Jewish mythology

edgy pumice
heavy radish
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Not off the top of my head but let me run and check rq

edgy pumice
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that’s what I’m trying to find right now and horribly failing

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that’s how it’s mf making me feel

heavy radish
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Ok! So! There's a couple places she pops up with Mesopotamia

  • Tablet XII of the Epic of Gilgamesh
  • Gilgamesh and the Huluppu Tree
  • Lilu (feminine form: Lilitu) is the word for a specific type of Sumerian demons
  • Some sources relate her to Lamashtu or Ishtar
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But none are specifically named Lilith or have the same mythology as her. Just similar associations which is generally considered not enough to consider them the same being (that's kinda like saying that Lugh and Apollo are the same because they're both sun deities that rule over a lot of different stuff)

edgy pumice
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Yup that makes total sense, Norse mythology has this same problem with some of the spellings of Loki’s name

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archeology. catcry1

full veldt
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Hey

true perch
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I'm searching for resources on radionics, specifically vampire boxes. This was the closest approximation as I'm aware that this leans more towards psionics, however, the nature of the box and it's design lends itself towards baneful magick more than anything else. Anyone have a lead? I'm aware of one manufacturer, but he seems to do them on a case by case basis.

woeful glade
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we dont have anything like that here im afraid

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the only thing im finding is someone selling them for 100$ but im not seeing listings? just like a "hey i do this" on a random website

woeful glade
# true perch I'm searching for resources on radionics, specifically vampire boxes. This was t...
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(im gonna be 100 w you ive never even heard of this before rn)

true perch
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It is! Unfortunately, what I need is an actual manufacturer of such a box. I've seen it at work, but I do not have the skillset for creating such a thing

woeful glade
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ahhh okay

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yeah im not seeing folks selling them unfortunately just a lot of info on like making your own?

true perch
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Yeah even the information is lacking some data about their creation, and there are a few interlinked skills required which I do not all have at once. I know there are people who can create one, but they seem to be endowed with all that's required to do it. I'm in need of the mechanism that it deploys, but the only alternative can vary in effectiveness.

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I'm hoping at some point I can find a skilled craftsman that is familiar with the inner workings of it's crafting.

woeful glade
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honestly best of luck to you! it seems like a really intresting but niche type of magic!

true perch
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Yeah I've only ever seen baneful practitioners or black magicians engaging it, though unfortunately yes it's a little niche

woeful glade
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i will note that we dont use the terms black and white to describe magic paths here as those are both terms rooted in racism (unless you mean like magicians that are black in which case ignore me)

true perch
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Ah, news to me! I'll adjust accordingly. What do we use to address magick that's often affiliated with that term?

woeful glade
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we have these alternatives as well as describing the magic used (aka baneful magic users which is a mouthful but)
#💬general message

true perch
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Okay, that's more useful information. Thank you very much

woeful glade
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yeah of course! sorry i couldnt help more but best of luck on resources!

true perch
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Much appreciated

swift lintel
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I'm dealing with a pretty intense situation and if anyone can give me guidance on how best to protect my space dealing with it I would be so grateful. TW: Mention of ||death||, ||animal death|| and ||reapers||

||First off, I am very inexperienced with reapers so if anyone knows more about them in general I'd love to learn more. I believe that a friend of mine's partner is jealous of me or doesn't like me for personal reasons. I assume it's because she feels threatened by our friendship. Anyway, he recently came to stay with my partner and me to hang out irl for the first time. The first night he was here, a reaper came and forced visions of my own death and the aftermath of me dying upon me. Fully freaked out, I smudged my bedroom and proceeded to go to sleep shortly afterward.

For the next few days, there were tricksters in my space generally causing havoc. I didn't feel as though they were related to my friend's partner, more so just excited by the energy shift in my space probably.

Once my friend had travelled home, I decided it would be a good idea to do some spellwork as a peace offering to his partner. I performed a spell for clear thinking between the two of them. The intention was to "clear the smoke and let the water cleanse." After I did the spell I felt very content and I had a feeling that she had received the energy from the spell willingly and with open arms.

Fast forward to last night, more than likely the same reaper that gave me visions of death was back outside. I had performed protection spells prior so he wasn't able to get inside. I felt as though the reaper was taking the soul he needed to be dismissed? I believe that he took the life of a wild animal outside. I was talking to Hades at the time and he informed me that he had to talk my friend's partner out of sending the reaper for my soul. Medusa appeared shortly afterward and petrified the reaper. My partner asked her to take the head of the reaper back as a message to the witch that sent it in the first place. Gaia also volunteered to warn her alongside Medusa.

I am feeling a little out of my depth here and I can't help but feel like shit's about to hit the fan between my friend and me. If anyone can help me protect myself and my space better, I would be so grateful.||

woeful glade
swift lintel
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i believe hes half native on his moms side

woeful glade
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and they are connected to their tribe?

swift lintel
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yes

woeful glade
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ah gotcha the smudging bit is why I asked bc that's specifically a native American ceremony not one just anyone can use

swift lintel
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right on

woeful glade
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onto your like actual thing:
have you tested to see if your hexed or cursed? or have you looked into dream meanings at all?

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I'm only asking because when you're dreaming of things that involve ||death|| & ||reapers|| it doesn't necessarily mean actual death but more so like a really drastic change in your life is coming to fruition

swift lintel
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is it okay to talk about the results of the egg cleanse i did before i knew it was appropriation?

swift lintel
woeful glade
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generally I would say no because if you aren't reading those results correctly then you're not going to be able to properly tell the results?
if that makes sense?

swift lintel
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okay yes definitely makes sense.

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i will do the matchstick test now 🙂 just gotta go find some bloody matchsticks i know theyre somewhere 😄

woeful glade
swift lintel
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no worries!

woeful glade
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you basically just need something that's light enough to float on top of the water and not immediately sink

swift lintel
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oh awesome ill use toothpicks! thank u

swift lintel
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dunno why they tried to curse me im literally so swag

woeful glade
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LMAO

swift lintel
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XD

woeful glade
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so the only thing that I can possibly think of is maybe making wards specifically for any magic from those specific people so basically like wards against their spiritual team if that makes any sense

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because my thing is how are they strong enough to control a Reaper if they aren't strong enough to make a proper curse that would affect you 😭

swift lintel
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yes that makes a lot of sense. i know what their spiritual team is vaguely just dont feel comfortable sharing it cause its not my place to tell 🙂

woeful glade
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and reapers usually by default are pretty neutral because ||death|| isn't like a bad thing nor is it like something that they do maliciously
so if a Reaper is on their spiritual team it's probably not consensual which sucks cuz like reapers are just bros

swift lintel
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i mean my partners druid so with both his and my magic combined its pretty difficult to break through ig?

woeful glade
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like as somebody that does a lot of ||death|| work I find that reapers are pretty neutral and they don't really care about people so much as they care about doing their damn job

swift lintel
woeful glade
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yeah like if this is happening as a thing from them. it either isn't a Reaper and is something pretending to be or you got like one that's being sorta forced :/

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either way icky stuff

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so your best bet is probably just blocking their entire spiritual team as a whole!

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you could even possibly do a spiritual cord cutting in which you cut the ties of any spiritual connection you or these other people have

swift lintel
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oh i like that idea

swift lintel
woeful glade
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100% but I hope I could help and I hope you can get them to stop catwave

swift lintel
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im sure theres a lesson in the resources here

woeful glade
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wards would be in #1114060224924491907 !

swift lintel
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thank you!

past sluice
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What are some resources for use to learn baneful magic and prepare for it

heavy radish
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No problem!

past sluice
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I’m not able to go out at this moment in time to get supplies

heavy radish
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I mean it might depend on the working, but there's also things in a lot of kitchens that can be used for baneful workings

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And most spells, in my experience, don't really have a time constraint so if it needs to wait a day so you can plan or whatever, you can do that

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Ah so that's something I'm not super comfy helping you accomplish

vagrant root
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Question:
Is it too late to do a return to sender spell if you've already had baneful magic cast on you?

woeful glade
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I feel like you do return to spenders when you realize you've had magic cast on you

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senders

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cuz like why would you do a return to sender spell if you don't know that anything needs to be returned does that make sense?

vagrant root
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My wards were not fresh, and I'm like 85% confident a not friendly person tried to send some negative energy/potentially a curse my way. Usually, my wards are set up to dispel and/or deflect negative energy, so I don't really do return to sender type stuff, but I feel this might be necessary

vagrant root
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That actually makes a lot more sense 😅

woeful glade
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so they typically can be a mix of both however I feel like that would be the difference between a return to sender Ward and a return to sender spell

vagrant root
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I don't really do baneful magic because I don't like seeing people hurt and I always think the universe's consequences will be enough, so I am not super familiar with it haha

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Ok cool thank you

woeful glade
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because usually when people program return to senders inside of their wards it's so that way there is the protection beforehand where as spells can be cast at any time they both work fundamentally the same way

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yeah and that's entirely Fair it makes sense why there would be confusion especially if you only learned about one type

vagrant root
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I've been thinking about doing one just in case, and then that question popped into my head

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Sutekh has already given me permission to use his altar mirror for the spell so that will definitely be part of it

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Anyway thank you so much!

woeful glade
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ooo

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yeah of course!

vagrant root
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It will give me a chance to use the hot vinegar that's been infusing for years 🤌
I made it back in 2022 before I left for college, just in case I ever needed it, and now it can finally be used

vagrant root
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Ok so hi funny story

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I am currently cleaning up a return to sender spell that I threw a lot of energy and mind into

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Turns out DURING THE SPELL her boyfriend broke up with her 🫡

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I don't know whether it's a coincidence or something more because it was kind of out of the blue

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Her bf is bffs with mine, and he didn't tell my bf ahead of time, which is shocking

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Either way, that was mildly amusing

vagrant root
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Update: I am absolutely drained but luckily work is short today

woeful glade
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oof yeah for sure treat as a rest day after

vagrant root
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I've been thinking about this again and asked Lucifer for what his thoughts were on everything since both she and I worship/work with him to some degree. I don't remember the exact cards I pulled but it essentially boiled down to "She had the right to do what she wanted in reaction to your friendship ending, but you also had the right to do what you wanted in reaction. You both have free will"

woeful glade
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that's such a comforting thought in a way. like we are all okay yo have our own reaction

vagrant root
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yeah it was interesting

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I think it settled my fears about performing the spell in a way?

woeful glade
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I'm glad!

boreal mauve
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I need help removing a server wide hex on one of my other discord servers. Someone is claiming to have hexed it with a tulpa hex, so I was wondering if anyone has any info on that or any info on how to break a hex. Even if its not actually a tulpa hex, just any hex in general for a server roughly the same size as this one- but one where I'm the sole person who practices witchcraft.

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please ping when responding

woeful glade
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a "tulpa" isnt a thing a would be considered a thoughtform in most aspects as for like how you would do a "thoughtform hex" I have 0 idea bc does that mean you are hexed with a thoughtform? is the thoughtform in charge of the hex? is the hex manifested as a thoughtform?

it's a very confusing term overall and kinda (personally) sounds like BS if I'm honest

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(like they are bs-ing you (sorry worded that weirdly))

boreal mauve
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Yeah, as I was doing research it sounded more and more like bs, I just figured I'd ask since someone outside of the server is claiming to have done it right as things in the server hit the fan.
And I mean like this person never even joined the server so the timing was just weird.

woeful glade
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I mean you can always test to see if it is (matchstick test with the server in mind)

or just banish anything anyway and make digital protections

boreal mauve
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I'll do that, thank you!

grand zealot
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i have a hex which you surely will not regret

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and by that i mean do not do this if you are not well into your craft and knowledgeable about hexes. hexing is a choice and not one i’ve ever made outside of this. work with caution.

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i call this the rage hex. it’s simple, but it packs a decent to extreme punch.

you will need

• a red candle
• the name of the target
• something belonging to the target, whether it was made by them or came from them etc etc
• red pepper
• any spicy thing you can get your hands on
• an egg
• a plastic bowl you don’t particularly care about, tupperware works
• a || knife ||
• anything prickly (safety pins, nails, claws, etc)

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directions:

  1. create a salt circle, light your candle, and set your intention. the strength of your rage decides how strongly this hex will hit, so be wise with your intention.

  2. write the name of your target on a paper or leaf. fold away from you, then light with the candle. release the ashes into the bowl.

  3. put your pepper and spices into the bowl. you don’t need to mix them. they will burn the target with tenfold the pain that they’ve caused, over and over again until they understand the pain they’ve inflicted unto others.

  4. next is your taglock. put this in the bowl, whether you decide to rip it up or break it beforehand is up to you.

  5. put your pricklies in there. mostly around the edges of the bowl, the target is going to be trapped in their own malice and met with no respite.

  6. put your egg in the center of the bowl. this represents your target. now take your || knife || and || stab || the egg. over and over again. until it’s basically shards. until you feel like every square centimeter of pain and anger you feel has been delivered into the bowl and its contents.

  7. wait for the candle’s flame to calm, and allow your emotions to calm with it. turn the candle out, then sweep the salt circle into the bowl both to put salt in the wound and as a layer of protection between yourself and the negativity in the bowl.

  8. discard contents however you like

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to give you an idea of how damaging this hex is, it caused the target to lose his job and all romantic relationships and some friendships, as well as get into a || car crash ||

woeful glade
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would you want this to be something that the server as a whole can use? if so you can copy paste this exactly into submissions and we can add it to the baneful channel /gen

grand zealot
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totally!! do i just type it into the submissions channel??

woeful glade
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yeah or I can just copy paste it from here lol

grand zealot
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dw i can do it :))

young nimbus
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AYOOO guys someone has been FUCKING with me and it was ||traumatic|| !!! long story short i was sucked into a rlly ||abusive|| friendship dynamic and treated got like shit!!!!!! i do have autistic ||ptsd|| (NOT diagnosed but highly suggested by my therapist yaayyy) so i rlly wanna give them a hex- this would actually be my first hex- i know nothing about hexes really as i unfortunatly got sucked into the love + light witchy community early in my practice so any tips or ideas would be SO helpful mWAHHHH :3
ALSO as far as ik they are not witchy only protections they probably have is a rlly old protection spelljar and like a crystal maybe
i have over 5 years of experience in witchcraft so not a beginner as well :p
for reference i do not even go to the same school as this person anymore (bc they made me drop outt 🙃 ) and on EXTREmELY RARE occasion do i see them in public

woeful glade
young nimbus
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also sure sorry!

woeful glade
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I mean more so the effects that painful magic can have on the people that you're affecting.

this isnt the kind of magic that you can really take back once you've done it because as soon as you do the spell the effects go into place and if you're not liking the results you're seeing you can't really take away whatever trauma or pain or side effects they have because they will have already gone through that

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*baneful 😭 my phone hates me so much

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I hope that makes sense?

young nimbus
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i dont have contact with the person anymore and they where not nice!!! so yea but i feel like thats lowkey a no brainer no offense

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😭 but thanks anyways truly 🐞

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(the person was REALLY not nice)

woeful glade
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the reason I'm asking is because it's not a no-brainer not everybody is comfortable with causing the same kind of pain and Trauma to the people that caused it /lh (but also point out that putting no offense behind something doesn't necessarily make it not offensive for future reference)

and like I am understanding that these people kind of fucked you over but I am saying that it's not the type of magic that you do without being entirely comfortable with the idea that you are the reason why they are going through whatever it is that they're going to go through I hope that makes sense.

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you are going to be the person that is responsible for whatever traumatic and horrible stuff that they end up going through via this hex. make sure your entirely comfortable with that before going through with it because you can't take back whatever it is you're about to do

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sure you can end the spell whenever you want but you're not going to be able to take back the experiences that they end up going through

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I'm not a person that is against hexing.

I don't care what you do personally. you do you but be sure your comfortable with the magic your about to preform bc it's not something you can erase by ending the magic yeliokidoki

young nimbus
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im not doing a CRAZY hex haha just a 'feel what i feel x 10'

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sort of thing

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but yes thanks for the disclaimer much appreciated

woeful glade
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you just said that you have ||PTSD|| right? so like 10x means they have to go through something 10x worse to get that. this is sort of what I mean by being sure that you know what somebody has to go through in order to get the effects that you want.

again do whatever is comfortable for you but I'm just trying to make sure that you are comfortable with whatever it is you're going to do

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you seem okay in that aspect though so I'll go ahead and just direct you to our resources we have information on hexane cursing we have spell ingredient methods all of that is going to be in our baneful resources Channel

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that has a bunch of info and also how to go about cursing and hexing as well as return to sender methods

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a lot of painful magic isn't shared though due to it being such a divisive kind of magic

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*baneful 😭😭😭😭

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I'm literate I sware

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😔 nvm

young nimbus
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LOL SORRY IT WAS NIGHT IN AUSTRALIA I FELL ASLEEP

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got it!!!

topaz zinc
# young nimbus LOL SORRY IT WAS NIGHT IN AUSTRALIA I FELL ASLEEP

hellooo! i'm not too late to the conversation, am i? i have done a bit of research on things one can do for baneful magic (from ingredient lists to different rituals and spells as well as entirely different practices and more) and would love to help! have you done something already or are you still in the planning phase?

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sorry for the pin btw >⁠.⁠<

topaz zinc
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it's 5½ a.m. in australia..🤧🤧🤧

feral patrol
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Taglocks - there’s distance involved. Writing the name and date of birth alright?

woeful glade
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yup that should work

feral patrol
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Just wondering, what is the prime lunar phase for hexing?

woeful glade
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I think it might depend on what you're attempting to hex for

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since that will probably correspond better with your intention than an overall phase of hexing.

like if you want them to crash and burn by blocking their path: new moon (no light for them to see their path)

if you want them to have shitty relationship issues: first quarter (this is the phase often used for relationship stuff)

feral patrol
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Aight, ritual done. Now we wait.

past sluice
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Any baneful spellwork that just make them see me differently? Basically a reverse glamor spell but only for a specific person. I tried mundane things but they keep being interested and doing advances towards me.

heavy radish
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Idk about baneful options, but you could look into invisibility wards to basically kind of hide you from them/their thoughts

past sluice
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That's actually a good alternative. Thank you griffin!

heavy radish
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No prob!!

woeful glade
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on a painful aspect you could always attempt like a glamor spell but rotting however I'm not sure how much that would affect you because it's hard to explain in a way that makes sense and my brain is not helpful right now

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baneful 😭

heavy radish
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If you wanted to incorporate music (also cause this is the only way my brain can think to explain the vibe of baneful glamor), I would suggest something like You Should See Me In A Crown by Billie Eilish or Bubblegum Bitch by Marina

woeful glade
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yeahhhh

frigid locust
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Hi, I think I remember seeing somewhere on this server that domination/love spells can be see as baneful so I came here just in case.
I’ve been using an intranquil candle and a come back to me candle for about a month now and for the past week or so I’ve been having dreams of the person showing up to my house or us being back together. However the person hast reached out to me so should I just give it more time or is there something else I should be doing to help me

woeful glade
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well first love magic isnt really baneful but it can lead to really harmful results if you arent sure or prepared for what your doing

and secondly all magic needs mundane action to work. you can do all the spells you like but if you cant comfortably reach out to this person mundanely magic isnt going to fix that.

and it could be that your magic isnt working bc they have protections (knowingly or not) against spells like that on them

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love spells are generally looked down on in magical spaces bc your taking free will of others away by forcing your own concept of what love looks like onto them for your own gain (their affection)

but that kind of work can lead to a very touchy situation of them not returning your feelings but feeling trapped to do so bc your magic

#1114061294820135032 message this is the love magic v domination magic post thing

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either way, try reaching out. if they dont respond well or respond at all leave it alone. magic also takes time, my spells arent deemed ineffective until 3 months in. and if your not seeing results after that 🤷 maybe they just dont wanna be with you

frigid locust
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I have reached out recently and we had a nice talk we are friendly with each other but I don’t want to just straight up ask to work out our situation since I’m not sure of the reaction I will get but thank you.

woeful glade
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yeah i mean depending on how the situation ended you may need reconciliation not necessarily love based magic? like if feelings are still there then the issue would be handling the past not forcing love thats already there?

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i would highly suggest reading on the situation to see what you need to do moving forward since i only really know whats been said there

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here*

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would also suggest giving #1114763097920503819 a look to see if you can find a clearer answer for the dream

frigid locust
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I’ve been looking into reconciliation but I’m having a hard time (kind of overthinking) figuring out what will work for me or help me.
He has a really hard time communicating that’s why it’s hard for us to talk through our problems and that’s also why I don’t want to force him
I’ve tried doing a reading but honestly Im an over thinker and I second guess myself on readings

woeful glade
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hm well if you feel you need a reading id suggest #599790755208232960 and if you need something to help with like clear communication id rec:

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(gimme a sec)

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this spell (sob sent it to the wrong chat)

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however if you arent trying to push the issue what you may need is patience

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bc this would be the beginning stages of you and your "new" relationship which may mean your starting over from the beginning in having to re-trust each other and stuff. Try reaching out like you would a friend first and build from there?

frigid locust
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Yes makes sense thank you!

woeful glade
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hope yall work out! /gen

past sluice
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Before i start baneful magic, what should i have setup?

woeful glade
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you should generally have protections in place. some people say that not being angry is important others say that the use of anger or the emotions tied to the reason you're doing painful magic is important that discernment is going to be entirely up to you.

I wouldn't recommend it to beginners that have never done spell work before so if this is your first push into doing spells at all I would generally state that starting off with other spells is important in helping you understand how your spell casting methods work and what works best for you.

as a general setup you should probably do so in a space where you are comfortable with feeling the emotions tied to the reason you're doing the spell casting

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what you have in terms of like tools is going to depend on what exactly you're attempting to do and what all you have available

past sluice
woeful glade
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the reason why I asked this is because if the only thing that you have done is protection there's not a lot of feedback you get from spells like that that allow you to understand how you know when your spell work is working and how you know when it's not

past sluice
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ah ive only done protection lol

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Should I get a better grasp on spell work then, before coming to baneful?

woeful glade
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I would say so yes. this is so that way you can learn what feedback from your spell work looks like

past sluice
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Alright, do you have any spell recommendations for that?

woeful glade
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most of the ones in #1114061294820135032 should do the trick!

stuff like self love, focus, etc all are things you have a tangible outcome

upbeat palm
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Hi! I'm a beginner witch and i was wondering if you should do banishing and cleansing spells before baneful magic? And if you shouldn't then how long do i have to wait after doing banishing and cleansing spells before i can do baneful magic? xx

wintry orbit
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Please don't post the same question in multiple chats as it's considered spam

As for your question Personally I'm a big nut for cleansing before anything. You don't necessarily hae to Banish unless your dealing with something specific you need to get out, but it's always good to know.

warm rivet
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theoretically if someone was being mean to me and i want to both cut them out of my life and bind them so they stop. in which order should i do the spells

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i'm going to assume the binding first and then the cord cutting but opinions are welcome

woeful glade
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binding then cord cut.
bc otherwise the cord cutting could be reversed when doing additional spell work on them

warm rivet
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yeah that makes sense thanks vespian

warm rivet
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smh someone tried to do baneful magic on me it seems

woeful glade
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oh bleh

warm rivet
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they didn't succeed thankfully

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but i'm gonna do cleansing and redo my protection spell just in case

frail lynx
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what is baneful magic?

heavy radish
remote shuttle
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Guys, is there anyone experienced in casting extreme curses and would like to share knowledge with me ? I genuinely just want someone to exchange advice with and I don't know where exactly to post this. Please DM me 🙏

woeful glade
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im not comfortable with dms but i will ask: have you done spellwork outside of cursing?

remote shuttle
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Yeah I am practicing witch for more than 4 years and even did some minor curses. I want to deepen my knowledge how to do more serious ones. Thank you a lot for answering 🫶

woeful glade
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So the difference between a "lesser" curse and a "serious" one is intention

You can use pretty much the exact same ingredients for 2 different spells there, the intention behind them and the will power that you decide to put into it. It's going to make or break the difference on how "powerful" it is.

Which is why learning intention and understanding the concepts behind what makes your spell work work
is fairly important

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Just as the same can be said for using the same ingredients in a spell that help dreams, as you would in a spell that causes nightmares, the difference there is intention.

remote shuttle
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I understand but I never really thought this was the key. I got from your bio that you're also a Lucifer devotee, may I ask if you have any experience including him into your work ?

woeful glade
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ah so that's a too personal for me if i'm being completely honest

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It's not the only aspect of performing stronger, painful magic.You also need to be sure that you are completely aware of and okay with the consequences as well as being well prepared as a whole for potential backlash from stronger spell work

remote shuttle
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I completely understand don't worry. Grateful for the advice regardless

woeful glade
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baneful* sorry speech to text

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In my opinion, doing spell work that is "stronger" requires more preparation, which means that it takes longer for you too act on it

And the reason why I keep using quotations around the terms stronger or lesser, it's because these are personalized kinds of distinctions that you make for your practice

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Somebody can do the same spell that you would consider stronger or more impactful, but not view It that way. So the way that they would go about doing said, magic would be different from you, does that make sense

remote shuttle
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It's a really interesting point I never gave much thought to but I would agree with you

urban charm
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we're doing baneful magic today and utilizing cat litter devilish

woeful glade
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hellmo circe putting her work in finally 🙌 👏

urban charm
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she's paying rent!

woeful glade
urban charm
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did a big baneful spell yesterday with my roommate and called on aphrodite and hekate for help, they showed up in the wax as a woman figure and a bird!

and got confirmation from my cards that it was successful IsaWinkGIF

woeful glade
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HELL YEAH! i need more irls im glad you have that support system and help usagilove sending you lots of love myth <333

urban charm
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tysm!!

terse raven
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How do i learn to do this, I am new and wanting to learn.

woeful glade
terse raven
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Ok thank you because im new to witchcraft and i want to learn it.

woeful glade
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yup id start with not doing this and focusing on basics

terse raven
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ok ty

urban charm
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my friends and I are gonna do a group hex (we're each bringing a name)LollyPog

icy atlas
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Hi is baneful magic like magic used for bad stuff like hexes and stuff? I'm new, I don't know if a hex is bad but I think I've heard of it before, just wondering

woeful glade
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"bad" is a subjective term, but baneful magic is magic, used to harm people

icy atlas
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Okay thanks

tired pewter
restive plume
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What is everyone's favorite baneful herb/plant to work with? I just started using datura and its been a trip.

dim pawn
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Boneset I think, easy to grow perennial or black pepper

small helm
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Honestly I’ve grown ghost peppers for a few years now and I end up using them a lot

turbid bay
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Guys what would happen if i did a hex spell without a protection spell

woeful glade
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As in whatever you did to another person would instead affect you or your loved ones

turbid bay
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...well good thing I did a protection spell

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I'm only a baby witch why am I already hexing people

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And doing love spells...

woeful glade
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oh...

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I don't recommend either of those for beginners

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But you do you 😅

urban charm
# turbid bay I'm only a baby witch why am I already hexing people

h5sparkles3 Baneful Magic h5sparkles3

Baneful magic checklist: #1114060015867793451 message

bookpageflip | Fundamentals

Before starting, are you new to the craft? Baneful magic can very easily backfire if you don’t know what you’re doing. Make sure you have a good grasp on the fundamentals such as grounding, cleansing, warding/protection, and banishing before performing baneful work. You should also very clearly know the differences between jinxes, hexes, and curses and have an idea of which one you would like to do.

bookpageflip | Protection

Ensure you are well protected, baneful magic can easily backfire if you are not protecting yourself during spellwork. Make sure you understand how to dispose of ingredients properly and put distance between you and the spell as you are casting it. If your target is well protected, you want to make sure you have protections in return. They may have return to sender wards, or a very protective spirit team. Make sure you have a plan to properly dispose of the spell and cleanse and ward after!

turbid bay
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Omg thanks so much for that know I know what to seriously do instead of just going straight forward

arctic palm
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Good evening everyone! Does anyone know any good ways to discover if your family may have been cursed? I am a baby witch and don't know where to begin with these sort of things. I have reasons to believe we are cursed but I don't know if it's magic or coincidence. Sorry if this is too personal.

woeful glade
arctic palm
arctic palm
woeful glade
arctic palm
arctic palm
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yay! super happy for you

dusk sparrow
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how much experience should a person have before doing baneful magic? I always see people say it’s not for beginners but I don’t know what that means

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like how many spells until you aren’t a beginner? what kind of spells should you have experience doing?

woeful glade
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beginners as in folks that dont have a good amount of spells of different kinds and dont know how to navigate their own spell work effectively.

do you know what you are doing? do you know why? are you stable enough in your craft and your decision to do baneful magic that you wont regret your actions? do you have a solid protection system?

its not how many spells youve done its how well you know spell work

dusk sparrow
woeful glade
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well we cant tell you if your comfortable enough in your practice /lh

dusk sparrow
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yeah I know… I just don’t know how to improve my skillset, if that’s what I need to do

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I don’t take hexing/cursing lightly, that’s why I haven’t done it I just don’t know how to know if you’re ready for spells like that

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I’ve sure wanted to this year, and the people who hurt me have now hurt my family this last month

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but I don’t want to worsen the situation because I got angry

woeful glade
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We can't make this decision for you. It's one that you have to make on your own. Nobody can tell you when you specifically are going to be ready. Because that kind of path isn't the same for everybody

When you have and are stable enough in your practice to be able to answer all of those questions fully.And completely without doubting yourself, then I would say that you are ready.

But there is no stagnant number or set way to go about doing your practice to make you ready for this. Because you are going to be doing magic that is harming people, and that's a decision that you have to come to terms with in on your own

dusk sparrow
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that makes sense

woeful glade
# woeful glade

If you want a clearer, more cut kind of thing for this, then I would suggest using the thing I linked before here, which goes over whether or not you have a good grasp on the fundamentals, whether or not, you know, the differences between the different types of baneful magic and so on.

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i 100% get wanting to be safe and not rush into things, and I applaud you for being cautionary about it

But it's not something that we can give you a numerical answer in terms of "being ready".

When or if you do decide to do this kind of magic, I am wishing you the best of luck!

dusk sparrow
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thank you, I will try to study up

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I do think I need to improve my protection magic first but I don’t think I act impulsively

woeful glade
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then i would hold off until you are sure and you have a solid base of protection.

restive plume
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I think one of my new favorite things to apply baneful magic to is necklace pendants. I have a couple that have shut toxic people up immediately and caused other people to lash out at the offensive party in my defense. Forever wearing these necklaces to work!!~ ♡

violet breach
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Hey, I am in a bit of a rough spot. I don’t know if I’m allowed to write this here or where to turn to, please tell me if this is allowed.

I think I’ve dealt with a lot of hate and envy from others, and people know I am spiritual so I think they might have done something to me. I’m not really a person who attacks others (or even gossips about others), I just want to mind my business and do well in life. So I don’t really know why anyone would want to harm me.

The thing I am going through is brain fog, lack of energy, and things that I own that are constantly breaking. It feels like my life is falling apart and I can’t keep up anymore. I don’t know what to do and I am looking for solutions here.

I’ve done an egg cleanse, I regularly do return-to-senders, and I cleanse myself. Meditating has been difficult with the brain fog so I haven’t been able to do that anymore.

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What would be possible solutions for this? Are there any spells or practices I could try?

woeful glade
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this is a great open method of testing and we also have things like curse breaking and protection

violet breach
violet breach
# woeful glade

I just now tried this and it came up as a V, so that confirms that there are some people that probably wish me harm

woeful glade
# violet breach I just now tried this and it came up as a V, so that confirms that there are som...

if your friend is then its fine that youve had one preformed.

the v does mean it failed though so i would up your protections, banish negativity, and focus on being safe. doing too much protection is also a thing that can result in low energy levels, which might result in you having brain fog and can lead to other issues like being clumsy.

if you want wards and protections we have #1114060224924491907, but if you are doing a lot of return to senders when there is nothing to return (ie no actual curses) then you are likely expending energy for nothing

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this is a thing on uncrossings which might be the most helpful thing here! #1114060224924491907 message

violet breach
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Thanks for the information and clarification 🙏🏻
I’ll make sure to check it out^^ Thanks

woeful glade
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no problem and i largely hope it helps! dealing w constant stuff like that is never fun (mine is from the curse of chronic fatigue dust )

violet breach
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Yeah, it’s exhausting 😭

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One question though, can’t return to sender be used for energy and wishes as well? So if someone is wishing ill and speaking Ill of me, can’t I just return that energy if it is felt?

woeful glade
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so yes! however, youve tried that already, and nothing worked and its still harming you to the point where you arent feeling well, meaning that what your focused on returning isnt there

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so it might be that there is no individual ill will towards you but something of a collective curse? familial, group setting, etc

violet breach
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so my general answer would be to read on the subject with divination if thats something you use.

asking your spiritual team is another option (again if you have one)

if you want to see about a negative entity, and dont have the things listed above: banish your space from negative entities (and i stress banishment over cleansing bc one more like a jet stream at an issue and the other like a bucket of water, both get rid of it but one is a lot more direct)

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if you find that your issues are going away after then youve likely banished the thing and can go about making protections

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for a collective curse you may need to do the matchstick test again but instead of focusing on yourself individually you should focus on collective groups you belong to dragonnod

violet breach
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I’ve been doing a bit of research but I feel like I need some help.
Does anyone know of any powerful banishment spells that removes entities / spirits?

woeful glade
violet breach
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the ones I personally use are closed to my culture so i can only really share those i havent tested

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these are banishing

violet breach
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Thanks I’ll check them out

woeful glade
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#1114060224924491907 message and this goes over some methods tho not in depth

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Banishing, at its roots is very much just like cleansing, but directed at a specific entity.

so if you want to get rid of x entity you would power any cleansing method and aim it specifically at them

daring pulsar
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Hiii!! I'm getting into witchcraft after a looooong time that I don't practice. I was wondering, what's baneful magic?

woeful glade
daring pulsar
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Okay!! Tysm (and sorry for the ignorance on this topic) usagilove

woeful glade
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all good! asking questions is def okay!

clever moat
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how do you cast spells on people

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do i just grab a load of salt and herbs and throw them at people?

woeful glade
cloud arch
dusk sparrow
mortal plinth
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Ok so i need a little bit of help. I dont practice baneful magic much because ive never really had to, but this person got on my last nerves 😭 is there a spell i can do to like make them REALLY feel the consequences of their actions?

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They are a very not kind person

woeful glade
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since youve never done baneful have you researched the needed basics?

mortal plinth
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Ive done a little baneful before but its been a while 😭

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Like 8 years...

woeful glade
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we have #1114060015867793451 id suggest looking there

mortal plinth
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Ok ty!

glad bluff
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Hello,does any knowledgeable & well informed witches know how to break a pre-birth soul contract.
Or have any resource on soul contracts? Are they myb in the “resource” category?

woeful glade
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#1114060015867793451 is where spell and curse breaking are located

glad bluff
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Okay thanks I’ll check it out💕

dreamy moss
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@steady plaza this is the channel

steady plaza
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Okay thanks!!

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So anyone if i had hexed someone and ive got my backfired on me. Should i throw it away?

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When its done and everything?

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Because its 3 months old and ive got my university backfire on me.

urban charm
dreamy moss
slow valve
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Holy snickers I'm freaking out, I did a hex spell on 3 horrible ppl which energized horrible energy too strong for me to handle and now my dead great/grand parents had banded me from doing work for 3 weeks-3 months, (I'm a empathetic psychic but my abilities aren't strong) I'm new and idk where to dumb this, does anyone know how to unhex people (does this make sense am I making sense)

dreamy moss
woeful glade
slow valve
slow valve
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Descents from my moms side

woeful glade
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bc smudging and dragons blood sage (which is just alternatively named white sage) are closed native practices. so you need to be taught how to use them from native folks

slow valve
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I watched a video of a naive guy on yr instructing on how to use it

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Yt*

woeful glade
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thats not really the same thing /lh

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reguardless though: smudging is a cleansing ritual not a protection one. so you need to have protections along with whatever you did.

dreamy moss
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If all you did was cleanse, you’re just purifying the energy in your space temporarily. You’re not locking out malevolent energies, entities, and intentions that can cling onto you when spellcrafting, ESPECIALLY during baneful work

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At the very least you’ve got to have a small protection ward like a protection spell jar but my suggestion is before you start doing any type of baneful shit again (if you decide to try it again), learn more about protections and LAYER your wards up nice and good. The more wards you have and the more specific you are with your intentions when making them, the harder they are to break.

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Make sure to always ground when spellcasting too otherwise your energy is going to go all over the place. Meditation, regulating stress, chamomile tea, and intentional practices are all ways to get yourself in the right grounded headspace for doing your working.

vagrant root
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^ while I'm not Wiccan, I LOVE casting circles for the purpose of containing/concentrating energy and I find it a grounding practice

dreamy moss
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I do as well. I cast circles on my bedroom a lot of times before I go sleep as a way to keep my energy protected and honed while in the unconscious world.

vagrant root
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Valid valid!

dreamy moss
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I also frequently perform the LBRP as both a circle casting method and powerful cleanser

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it’s not for everyone but I’d recommend it it’s a great ritual for overall protection

slow valve
slow valve
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Shadow ppl, shadow figures

dreamy moss
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And this has been happening ever since you did your baneful working?

slow valve
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More likely since I started at 13 (I'm 17)

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I'm not supposed to be doing dark magic bc some ppl from my madres family ended selling their soul to satan

woeful glade
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if your guides dont want you doing it thats one thing, and you should take their caution into account, but you can legit do what you want and no one can stop you.

id suggest not doing anything until you have a solid base of how spells work and youve made sure to note that the things youve been experiencing are not medical related.

best of luck

slow valve
dreamy moss
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Again, get yourself protected and energetically cleanse yourself regularly. If that doesn’t get rid of the shadow people, you may need to do some banishing work

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Cleaning can be done tons of ways as can protection work

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To cleanse, you could smoke cleanse, sound cleanse, use selenite, do a spiritual bath, etc

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For protection work, wards come in all different shapes and sizes

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In #1113290782007369859 theres a protection tab with info

signal niche
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do you guys have any advice for making baneful protective wards, or rather transmutive wards that turn someone's negative energy towards you into blessings and abundance? i've been seeing stuff about making one, i already have a protection spell jar i did in the summer but you can never have too much protection! i've been trying to research on it with cross referencing online but i'm not finding too many rources on it for free :((

urban charm
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in general that goes in hand with having a solid foundation in spellwork!

dreamy moss
tired pewter
# slow valve I'm not supposed to be doing dark magic bc some ppl from my madres family ended ...

Selling the soul to satan is very much a stereotype set up by the people who practice particular monotheistic religion moreover I don’t think so any of the infernals are interested in ‘ buying ‘ human souls ( yup that’s appropriate term the term is demon is heavily demonised and narrated inherently evil by people) “ every infernal is not evil and every angel is not good “ they are neutral in nature

tired pewter
tired pewter
# signal niche do you guys have any advice for making baneful protective wards, or rather trans...

Layer your ward with different kind of magics knot magic sigil magic protection oils etc etc like be specific what kind of advice you want… talking about ingredients you can use chilly flakes black pepper cloves garlic mustard poppy seeds in baneful ward and about transmutation ward you can use lemon mint lavender basil etc moreover your can use alum and black salt in both baneful and transmutation ward

vagrant root
# signal niche do you guys have any advice for making baneful protective wards, or rather trans...

#1114060224924491907 message I reference this message a lot, in general when making wards!

But for transmutative wards, I use items associated with protection AND abundance (for example). I typically set the items for abundance inside/before the protection items, and usually add a crystal or herb associated with transformation to aid in the process. I set my intentions to something like "Any negativity caught in this ward is transmuted into energy towards my abundance" or something similar

Hope this helps?

dreamy moss
gritty sage
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Hi all,

I am looking for a strong banishment spell for a family member who is tvery toxic in my life. I haven't practiced in awhile so I am looking for something that doesn't require a lot of materials. I have experience with spell jars, which seem to work in the past for "minor" things.