📨・meta-help

[unborn hound]

send rot

idk how to ib

[barren plank]

Im not sure tho I think I might be able to go higher tbh

[noble zinc]

【【战双】3.0莉莉丝2卡列3极昼鏖战柯蕾多尔20秒-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/qdhWuP2

try this

[unborn hound]

it's getter than what i have fr fr

[noble zinc]

Burn is 23cap unless better weather last time

[compact fern]

is this doable with s cub?

[noble zinc]

not sure I haven't triedine

[compact fern]

i sometimes dont get glaciation stacks on wanshi bullets

[frank kindle]

do u hold dodge

[compact fern]

of course

hold red doesnt trigger glaciation

still sometimes it bug

[noble zinc]

need to hold a bit more there's sometimes lag

Blue dodge forward hold dodge comfy better

Or use yellow 3p first then hold dodge

Blue+ hold dodge is weird cuz of lag sometimes

[compact fern]

hmm thanks
build is chen eins gloria right?

[barren plank]

Ye

[noble zinc]

For warzone sig4 chen4 ppc depends

[barren plank]

Oh for warzone

[compact fern]

no im asking for ib lmao

[barren plank]

Usually yea that

Echo 4DV 4Guin

[compact fern]

wz i dont mald cant retain legend anyway and hero too easy

[compact fern]

im missing dps cant kill on piano ult

[deft apex]

@cyan pollen got my gift card

[compact fern]

prolly cuz echo ss

should i just plasma

pyroath should kill in 2 slash 1 eclipse

or 4 slash

[noble zinc]

Doubt will

35s last time I did with 232 inv

On cradle

[compact fern]

[noble zinc]

What yourM

[compact fern]

ye but im not killing with piano ult lol last few bars are taking ages

maybe i just roll physical

[barren plank]

Do you just have to mald DLT RNG?

[ripe stag]

So

Did Veronica make Hanying turn into 1 rot tank or she's not coming out like Alisa ?

[ionic cedar]

depends on investment

[compact fern]

han still 2rot iirc

[ionic cedar]

if hanying is higher, then hanying doubles

[ripe stag]

SS3 R2 Hanying

[ionic cedar]

if theyre the same then hanying doubles

[ripe stag]

SS0 R3 Veronica

[ionic cedar]

o wait is vero out in global

[ripe stag]

No

[ionic cedar]

is it pulling time

[barren plank]

Not till next Friday

[ionic cedar]

terrible

[ripe stag]

So my Vero is not swapping in for physical?

[compact fern]

nah glaciation wont work for me too much health left sadge

[ripe stag]

PLEASE JUST KILL PHYSICAL AT THIS POINT

[ionic cedar]

no but she can hold phillip

[ripe stag]

USELESS

MUDA MUDA

[leaden tinsel]

she does 1 rot from what ive seen

[deft apex]

If u have 3s echo vero is dedge for phys, or so I've heard

[ripe stag]

MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA

[ionic cedar]

u can one rot with alisa if ur tight

[barren plank]

Veronica is slightly better

Cause she can hold Cath

[ionic cedar]

but its no damage so why bother

[compact fern]

vero buff crit like alisa?

[barren plank]

If oyu have SSS Echo, she's dead in US unless she's SS3 since she's not the teams Cath holder

[deft apex]

Cant hanying also hold it

[ionic cedar]

vero crit buff is on her 2pc instead of 4pc

[barren plank]

She's holding Patton in phys

[deft apex]

Ogey

[ionic cedar]

so you can make her crit buff, do dv and phillip

[barren plank]

DV Keats Catherine

[ripe stag]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-dead-dying-anime-sigh-gif-15759433

[barren plank]

That's the only way she beats SSS Echo in phys

[ionic cedar]

veronicas dps spec is more for uhhh, burn team. bye dante 🥀

[ripe stag]

Dude

They just made another glorified half meta unit

Again

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-death-dead-gif-12123813093863538966

[ripe stag]

Kuro knew that if she crit buffs with 4 Keats
It's game over

Tbf should have kept her Physical performance from V3

[barren plank]

Yea I have no clue why they nerfed her numbers back

[ripe stag]

Big Physical
Slightly less Ignition

[ionic cedar]

sad

[ripe stag]

But both teams improved very much

[deft apex]

Selena eternal

No geiravor mistake again

[ripe stag]

They even took the Stack refresh from her

[ionic cedar]

then again sometimes they do weird things like that

[ripe stag]

Atleast make her stronger than Hanying bruh

Like

[ionic cedar]

like replacing lamia before karenina

[ripe stag]

Hanying is REALLY NOT GOOD

[ionic cedar]

[ripe stag]

Dante replaced before Daren

You can say
GEN 3 POWERCREEP BEFORE DAREN

[ionic cedar]

will 2025 end before karenina goes away

[ripe stag]

Yes

2025 has like 1 more S rank

[deft apex]

Dark tank liv trust

[barren plank]

New noan frame when

[deft apex]

Ikr

I need it yesterday

[ripe stag]

No more males till mid 2026

Already got 2 males

Even though Collab

Y'all male wanters are greedy

2 is more than enough

[ripe stag]

Lightning Amp

They'll kill Feral next

One of the most hated units

For no reason

[unborn hound]

most hated

[frank kindle]

it wouldnt matter cuz han has no shred field on qte

[ripe stag]

Man make her just one rot

Her Green orb zone stays for a good while

[unborn hound]

show these haters

they gonna die alongside that useless bourgeoise dictator

[frank kindle]

11s out of 12s midlena takes her shredfield alone

[ionic cedar]

lightning amp liv with glow affix surely

[ripe stag]

I really need daren powercreep

There's no way I'll cope for so long with Ish

[unborn hound]

comrade liv is not a class traitor she won't kill feral

[frank kindle]

she will kill cow, qu and feral

[unborn hound]

cow will stay in the team believe fr fr

it's echo who is dying from glacio

[ripe stag]

If Echo actually gets powercrept this fast

It'll be the funniest shi*

Cuz Kuro needs to pull an insane amount of damage and gimmicks for Liv to powercreep SSS0 Alisa from Glacio

Super good leap

[unborn hound]

im sorry echo but u were a class traitor all along for demanding to hoard the means of SSSing (vouchers) from the workers

comrade liv justice is swift

[noble zinc]

no

[visual topaz]

[noble zinc]

there's no dlt mald there

[ripe stag]

So Godfall Revelation is linked to discord story

[noble zinc]

20seems doable lower invest I'm getting 22

[ripe stag]

I'm sorry but you are stupid and Liv is too

Liv must die

That's her fate

[unborn hound]

sorry but you must die

[ripe stag]

Liv must die
That's her Fate

And her Grand Order to die a painful death

[ripe stag]

Sadly you can't kill me cuz you are already dead

https://tenor.com/view/kenshiro-meme-omae-omaewamoushindeiru-omaewamou-gif-18658759

[noble zinc]

[unborn hound]

anyone who stands between liberating the workers from oppression is but a tool of the bourgeoise

comrade liv will dispose of these leeches and liberate this meta from qu oppression

[noble zinc]

[unborn hound]

stop spamming broke mr 80k bc

[ripe stag]

They could have easily added a special move for Darkflow Epitaph rot

[deft apex]

Shukra is ice and anni unit
So liv is also ice since anni unit

It all makes sense

[ripe stag]

THEY LITERALLY HAVE IT IN BOSS EPITAPH

[unborn hound]

who the f thought shukra is anni worthy bruh

they should've put luna instead, hell teddy is a better fit even

like who the f thought a mid uniframe insect hating biatch deserves another frame

[young badge]

[deft apex]

Uncultred smh

[unborn hound]

pulao no diffs her

[young badge]

[unborn hound]

she getting her ahh whooped by a child

[barren plank]

Can I stream so u can see what Im doing cause I have no clue where the guy is getting all those orbs from

Is he like basic weaving quickly in a way Im not catching or smth or?

[noble zinc]

I can't join stream in this 6yr old phn
As how he's getting he pinging the corner most 1yellow

[barren plank]

oooooh

[noble zinc]

You can't be too fast if orb dosent get changed before you ult

Your orb gets vanished into nothing

[ripe stag]

Can Eclipse proc 4 Phillip every QTE?

[barren plank]

No

[ripe stag]

Ok

[barren plank]

All A-ranks (to my knowledge) only have 1 heal on QTE

[ripe stag]

Teddy has lingering healing

It ticks

Worth running this for GB ?

[barren plank]

Put 2/2/2 on storm and 4DV 2Phillip on Eclipse

That's what I did

[ripe stag]

We don't have storm if I'm not wrong

[barren plank]

We do

[ripe stag]

No
Asia has kamui

[carmine reef]

Lux technically has multiple heal ticks

[ripe stag]

Also I don't think 4 dv procs for gb

Or does it

[young badge]

it does

[barren plank]

Why wouldn't it

[muted coral]

how do i get high veronica score uhhhh

ss3 r1 pyroath
ss3 r 1 lilith
ss r1 nanami

[barren plank]

Oh wait I was thinking of last week's GB

Mb

[ripe stag]

Overlapping same type of buff from GB school?

[barren plank]

No DV still works

[ripe stag]

[barren plank]

It just has a CD

[young badge]

[ripe stag]

Ok then

[muted coral]

barely

first time ever being in intensive bro

[carmine reef]

Eh

Shouldn't that invest be like 600k

[ripe stag]

Easily 610k

Atleast

SS3 Pyroath is big for Plasma

[muted coral]

Delusional

[wintry shell]

I got 600k+ with SS R1 pyraoth, SSS R1 Lilith and SS3 R2 nanami but then again pyraoth ranks matter much more than everyone else on the team

My pyraoth is also cubless very sad she hit like a wet noodle in fire

[noble zinc]

https://youtu.be/GdQT3PH3os8?si=bBToBP46Wa07kSta

[ripe stag]

See? @muted coral

Man really called me delusional before actually researching

[muted coral]

"easily 610k"

[noble zinc]

yeah it is

[ripe stag]

It is

Dude you have SS3 Pyroath

SS3 Lilith

[noble zinc]

More reso

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

SS3 Lilith does wonders

[noble zinc]

Ss3 does nothing but that slight extra attack should help

[ripe stag]

Exactly

[noble zinc]

*puro I mean

[ripe stag]

It's wonders

[pallid cypress]

Are SSS wanshi and lilith enough?

Or should i push it to SSS3?

[ripe stag]

SSS0? yea

[pallid cypress]

Yep SSS0

[ripe stag]

Yep enough

[pallid cypress]

Ok

Guess i can work next on watanabe SSS0

In genshin terms SSS0 is like C6 right?

[noble zinc]

[ripe stag]

Can't compare

Literally

[pallid cypress]

Yeah fair

[ripe stag]

Both follow different types of ranking system

[wintry shell]

If you’re talking about dmg then C6 is more like SSS+

Since SSS in PGR provides more mechanics and QOL for characters rather than just straight dmg

[cloud yarrow]

who to pick? My nanami and lucia at SS and Qu at SS6.

[unborn hound]

nanami

[cloud yarrow]

thanks

[rich ravine]

guys, i need some help. i currently have ss3 uncle. do i try getting him to sss? using this and maybe completing with vouchers?

have 67k vouchers

[noble zinc]

Wata
qu no good

me delulu so got her

[young badge]

[noble zinc]

7.9 not bad anyway

[young badge]

report

[noble zinc]

why

[leaden tinsel]

whel fk

[young badge]

r3 qu when

[noble zinc]

R1 Spet f2p qu

[rich ravine]

ik qu is no good, but if wata isnt worth getting sss, i might just pick qu ss3 XD

[noble zinc]

Wata worth getting SSS

Can also save vouchers for what if next unit

[young badge]

nuke when u 3s wata

[noble zinc]

Better choice

[noble zinc]

Next patch

[unborn hound]

[noble zinc]

[unborn hound]

[young badge]

pak 3s whel

[noble zinc]

[unborn hound]

[noble zinc]

[leaden tinsel]

he want to make f2p content don't bully

[unborn hound]

[young badge]

[noble zinc]

fr

[young badge]

[unborn hound]

[rich ravine]

well i guess i get him to ss6 with the selector and go all in vouchers to 3s

[noble zinc]

nice

[noble zinc]

[noble zinc]

[unborn hound]

its ok nuke

comrade liv will save u from breakpoints

[noble zinc]

[leaden tinsel]

in dark zone as a tank

[noble zinc]

Another bij coming to drain me

R3 reso ss pet

Vera Lilith had no plans sw their usage then

[leaden tinsel]

[unborn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/hyperreal-lee-cope-copium-lee-pgr-lee-gif-5324500581764935264

[noble zinc]

https://vxb23.tv/4XiXOA6

Kinda works

Nanatabk this

[rocky wedge]

you see anymore ignition vids?

[noble zinc]

Yes vero crossing 24

[unborn hound]

this is sss bianca and and ss3 lilith

[rocky wedge]

cause im wondering if dante / nana / vero or vero / sss wata / nana or with vera idk

[leaden tinsel]

the misha invest

[rocky wedge]

i can try all actually Oo

[leaden tinsel]

i checked a bit and 232 nana wata vero seemed to do more

[rocky wedge]

ye that makes sense for me to give best outcome

[unborn hound]

does wata shred stack with nana?

[rocky wedge]

damn my dante was useful for like 1 patch xD

[rocky wedge]

no but if his rank is higher he will have more shred which is good for lower rank nana, also -3s swap cd

if nana is SSS then team would be different, at ss3 probably still same

[young badge]

what if nana 3s run wata or vera

[rich ravine]

when is the next voucherable char?

[leaden tinsel]

i didnt find with 3s dante over wata but this 232 https://vxb23.tv/w8nxvv8

[rocky wedge]

i mean sss nana wouldnt need to have wata there anymore

[young badge]

[rocky wedge]

not released yet

wata is the newest one if u count leaps

[rich ravine]

well imma just get him to sss, i need 27 shards

[rocky wedge]

u have lilith and wanshi SSS already?

if so then ye thats fine especially if u spend

[rich ravine]

lilith yep, wanshi only ss3

[noble zinc]

Nana 3s then run vera not 3s wata that's what cn player are saying

[rocky wedge]

hmmm well now the question who well get boot first xD

wata or wanshi

next thing we have wata after 2 years still

tho wanshi is more broken so maybe he will last longer

[rich ravine]

u think so?

[rocky wedge]

since karen most unfunctional character ever and still not booted

well hard to tell since kuro usually leave leaped characters in meta for awhile after

[leaden tinsel]

your wata is a lot closer to sss so maybe him first but idk

[rocky wedge]

are u buying BP and stuff or on f2p vouchers?

[rich ravine]

currently on f2p

[rocky wedge]

well maybe just hoard since its first of the month, maybe we will get announcement of next character before november

[rich ravine]

i mean, im close to get them both to sss XD

[rocky wedge]

cause if its a voucher character should maybe just save for them

[rich ravine]

but imma be so dry after hehhe

[young badge]

[rocky wedge]

ye also ahh if new character is ice, then wanshi SSS would be pretty nice

[rich ravine]

yea imma just do that, just leave it for now and see what chars come next

[cloud verge]

Can I get some pointers how to build my teams? I feel like the wiki is outdated and my resonance is like the most important thing I am curious about. https://huaxu.app/eu/players/15599205/characters

lets do fire first I got 6 usbs

[rocky wedge]

ye if we get new ice character then ice will shoot up in power and u would want SSS wanshi more i would say

glacio also strong

[rich ravine]

yeppers

[untold gyro]

Why is nanaknight on top of ss3 prio list?

[still moat]

Versatility mclovin.

[untold gyro]

Because of her affix as well?

[still moat]

true

[untold gyro]

Thanks

[ionic cedar]

schrodingers element

which team becomes giga, will it be ice? will it be lightning? will it be something unexpected? who knows. we are caught up with cn now and get to participate in the same tragic theorizing in real time.

it should be lightning amp or dark tank but i know im not getting that

i totally do not feel this way just because 21 is the only amp i dont have at sss

[fading kestrel]

okay whale

[worthy ravine]

Not enough ult energy for the third slash. Guess I need SS3 for that.

Until then I guess I should just do the other ult after the first slash.

[cobalt plover]

Anyone has veronica on ts?

[noble zinc]

There no ts in live

[cobalt plover]

Wait wydm

Ah on wz?

Yea fair enough

[noble zinc]

【我的天呐，维吉尔大人-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/G8b4UzE
Can see for fun this before nerf as much remember

[noble zinc]

You don't play her ion like that for ppc there are certain variations
For vero ppc/or any other low invest refer windbell

Warzone here you go
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkNOsDAQ42YYUeQNXS2ruv4wPaxcbrGvl&si=wI9u2UOHpry_OJRI

[buoyant hornet]

Big dubs for our guild fr

[buoyant hornet]

I laugh at the prospect of 222 ion because the concept of not having at least ss3 daemonissa is funny to me

[worthy ravine]

I feel like I'm getting conflicting answers whenever I ask about Plasma/Ion. Like, I've seen people say not to do the second Lilith ult yet the first video here does it

[cobalt plover]

Thanks

[noble zinc]

Like said there are variations

[buoyant hornet]

There's 700 different ion strats

[zenith thorn]

oh poor innocent soul

[buoyant hornet]

There's no one singular solid "best" strat tbh

[noble zinc]

I change my stat like every other zone

ppc diff as well

Yu adjust always

[worthy ravine]

Also shame I can't just try PPC again with my plasma beam characters. Forever screwed for the rest of this week 🫠

I'll just say I wouldn't have been able to improve anyways

It's not like I was able to unlock IB before

[buoyant hornet]

Did you use one of the characters on another boss

[normal sierra]

not with that attitude

[zenith thorn]

can i do it with that altitude

[buoyant hornet]

Let me guess you used lilith on madorea 😭

[worthy ravine]

What? No. I just used up all my attempts on Vero. I normally do all 3 difficulties with the same team.

Though I guess that's the wrong way to play?

[worthy ravine]

No. Lol

[buoyant hornet]

What do you mean lol

Like you saved your scores already and now wanna change them?

[normal sierra]

no, you must go higher

[worthy ravine]

ya

[buoyant hornet]

Relatable

[zenith thorn]

but i kiwi

[normal sierra]

[worthy ravine]

It's honestly kinda BS how you can't just reset your scores.

I get that it is it's own form of risk vs reward but I think it's infuriating design

But perhaps I just have a skill issue

Nah. It's definitely terrible design and a skill issue

Imagine if tomorrow I manage to outscore myself with a different team

Fire team featuring Dante because pyroath was already used on plasma

[zenith thorn]

its ok i also wished i could restart my run after saving it

and im a ppc player

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh it's usually just about being patient and researching other runs first

[zenith thorn]

well was

[buoyant hornet]

No matter how good you get at the game there'll always be strats/ideas that'll get over your head and you need to learn them from somewhere else

[unborn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204144731135938592/1382737557158236300/what_1.gif

[worthy ravine]

Imagine having patience

But yeah. Sure does suck missing out on all those IB skulls that I was so close to actually reaching this time

Especially when it's during 3x rewards

[buoyant hornet]

RIP we lost a good soldier

[leaden tinsel]

is 18x with the 3x so not missing out too much dw

[worthy ravine]

I don't really know how intensive battle works so seeing the number 18x makes me feel like I'm missing out on more than I thought

[leaden tinsel]

i mean just 18skulls

[worthy ravine]

ohhh

so it normally just gives 6 more skulls?

[leaden tinsel]

for bottom 50% of bracket

and top is like 36at most rn (12 on norm patch) but if you are struggling to get there it would be bottom 50% most likely

[sharp grove]

lose your follicles its worth

[worthy ravine]

Honestly seeing any concrete number makes me feel better.

For all I knew I could have been missing out on 5 million skulls or something

[shy jackal]

so this is ur default gif now instead of ish sipping tea?

I approve

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1413206187507454083/verocarplap.gif

[deft apex]

Ish sipping tea?

Never saw that gif I think

[formal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-ishmael-punishing-gray-raven-ishmael-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-ishmael-parhelion-gif-16884694601888095171

[carmine reef]

[deft apex]

Oh that one

Ik it sounds stupid but I def didnt remember it cuz I think its coffee and not tea

So no association there

[shy jackal]

idk

is that a teacup or coffee mug

I can't tell

[iron briar]

Why people call wata uncle

[carmine reef]

boomer

(it's also stated ingame)

[prime jetty]

Who do I pick? I already ss3 wata but shukra is ss. I don't have scire but she needs high investment

[median spade]

choice is up to you at that point, you got the only thing that matters

[carmine reef]

pick wata and go for sss eventually

[median spade]

could pick another copy to work towards wata SSS

[prime jetty]

Uh

I kinda don't wanna focus solely on one unit since am f2p

[median spade]

he's worth it

[carmine reef]

you asked for the best choice, that's the best choice

[median spade]

wb zex

[carmine reef]

ty

[prime jetty]

Ss3 shukra aint worth it?

[shy jackal]

no

[median spade]

does almost nothing

[carmine reef]

qu is in her twilight days

[prime jetty]

Would my ss3 Ishmael do better than ss Karenina?

[carmine reef]

it's a decent personal damage boost for her

but qu herself is less relevant now

[median spade]

same buffs as karenina, if your ish is already r2 then its a lot less investment

[carmine reef]

daren sucks balls

i get better score with ss0 r2 ish than i do with ss3 r1 daren

[prime jetty]

What does ss6 wata do?

[carmine reef]

nothing

ss6 is just a stopping point to sss

[prime jetty]

Oh

[median spade]

its just closer to 3S

[carmine reef]

but he's voucherable

so you would save yourself 24k vouchers on the way to sss

[prime jetty]

Alright

How much would I need by then?

[carmine reef]

another 30 shards so another 24k

[prime jetty]

Alright thanks

[heavy marlin]

IF liv is gonna be free she's gonna be voucherable right?

[median spade]

well free units are usually voucherable yes

[spiral merlin]

Anniversary unit free

[thorn bluff]

Are we gonna get informed if they give another blue ticket selector before the patch happen? Or is it will be so sudden that make most people sho still have theprev one not able to get it beforhand?

[spiral merlin]

We’ll know beforehand

[thorn bluff]

Alright ty

[formal radish]

I have enough blue tickets to get a new s rank... must resist

[median spade]

we'll have a livestream before patch so a couple/few weeks to know but we have to get used to not having a ton of time for those kind of decisions

[deft apex]

I highkey want to get ember/pulse/entropy from random blue banner

[formal radish]

I really want tenebrion

But that's no bias or anything

[deft apex]

Im going to pick entropy or pulse from this patch selector

But im divided on which one

[carmine reef]

no you're not

entropeak is obvious

[deft apex]

U right, bulge skin is lowkey peak

But pulse hair physics are so satisfyingly hypnotizing

[formal radish]

Alrealy have peaktropy

[snow steppe]

Bianca or veronicas cub

[noble zinc]

@unborn hound

[golden nacelle]

Nukelao

[warped axle]

funny how dante got powercrept 3 patches later

useless*

[azure flicker]

Wait Dante is powercrept?

[median spade]

vero is outscoring at high invest

[azure flicker]

Solo or still with Dante?

[median spade]

with vera and nana

[crystal rune]

Vero nana Vera outscoring Dante nana vero

[azure flicker]

That's hilarious

Well I still get some use out of him since I skipped Vera I guess

[regal ledge]

i just woke up and i saw skipped vera

[azure flicker]

Morning
I like knowing about how stupid I am in retrospect but I still skip characters I don't like!

[limber yoke]

Haxx

Me only 7.1m

[noble zinc]

Now you can 7.9 as well

[limber yoke]

Yes

[noble zinc]

one tap but this

[wintry parcel]

I can see why

[rose yew]

Spoken like a true resident of brickistan

[azure flicker]

I like doing my rotations proper while being bricked as shi
Maybe they will make me mayor sometime
Always scary when I wake up on Monday and am in legend like dafuq am I doing here

[wintry parcel]

Oh I also love playing my game rotation while being bricked asf

[pine slate]

Pretty sure Dante team still score higher? Just not by much

[wintry parcel]

It's unfortunately not

[pine slate]

How much did no Dante score anyways

Cuz from the stuff I've seen Dante scores higher

[wintry parcel]

From https://huaxu.app/cn/warzone/current/16

Based on Empress run, the best Dante team score I've able to find is only nearly 22m

The thing with Dante is that

He's a fraud Burn unit

[pine slate]

[wintry parcel]

Despite his on field attacks are Burn damage

[peak halo]

[wintry parcel]

People forgot one major problem

His SS3 and SSS rank are mostly focused on his off field damage

And unfortunately
All of his off field damage are fire Damage only

Unlike Veronica onfield attack that's actually pure Burn damages

[pine slate]

His sss is focused on on field too

[wintry parcel]

Well yes

But when putting them into comparison, it's a major flaw

Veronica team is able to make her doing double rotation is also another reason

[quiet lily]

bcs dante is fire dps

[peak halo]

So no swap to vera

[wintry parcel]

Dante being 70% Burn and 30% Fire compared to Veronica actually being 100% Burn, is one of the main reason why Veronica can take the upperhand

Also the fact that Dante is S L O W

So yes

[formal radish]

Be nice to him

[wintry parcel]

Dante is dead

At least it's only like 5% worse than Veronica team really

[pine slate]

His rot is pretty standard to me, like 6-7s

[wintry parcel]

They can always choose to get less score with their favorite team

Although, The SS rank Comparison would be interesting

[formal radish]

Dante is still kicking for his age

[peak halo]

Yeah
Ppl slacc anyway

[formal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dmc-devilmaycry-dance-weepwoomweepwoom-gif-23923472

He looks like he's in his 40's

[peak halo]

Old dante

[formal radish]

Uncte

[wintry parcel]

Considering the franchise, he's probably a hundred years old already at this point after he's been stuck in what was it again

Hell with Vergil

[shy jackal]

hell/the underworld

[wintry parcel]

How does time flow down there

[torn epoch]

Should I get Qu Shukra from the new selector ? My ice team currently have Plume, S Wanshi and S Ayla, assuming my other team is completed

[wintry parcel]

If you can't get at least SS rank upgrade for Shukra right away, she won't make any difference compared to your existing ice team

So if you haven't get Epitaph yet, it's recommended to get him over Shukra

[obsidian dune]

https://tenor.com/view/extaria-dante-fire-warzone-pgr-fire-wz-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-6564593099520871127

[torn epoch]

I already got him, my fire team rn only lack a dps but I guess that's fine
Another dupe to bianca it is lol, thanks for the help

[wintry parcel]

You just need 500 Pain Skulls for SS rank Shukra if possible

If not just forget about her

[azure flicker]

Doesn't Qu at low investment also really want her weapon?

[wintry parcel]

That's what they told you

[carmine reef]

everyone wants their weapon

that doesn't change at higher rank

[wintry parcel]

But what they forgot, not everyone is able to afford everything necessary

It's just a Parrot reaction/reply at this point

Honestly, no one really bothers to look into the game anymore to tell which one actually matters

[azure flicker]

I worded that poorly
Doesn't Qu need her weapon to function? Since her orb management just dies otherwise

[wintry parcel]

It's already over

[wintry parcel]

That's gonna depend on your understanding of "functional"

Some make double rotation as the bare minimum of "functional" because that's all they really know

[carmine reef]

i think it's very fair to say that is functional here

doing one rot means you have to swap to ayla/ish/whatever

the score tank is so bad you might just solo wanshi instead at that point

which would make the qu non functional

[wintry parcel]

Actually

Nuke already tested it

[carmine reef]

i know nuke has been cooking it

but he's been cooking 232

or 233 one of those

[wintry parcel]

Swapping with SS rank Shukra + 5 star weapon with SSS rank Lucid dreamer is still better than Solo dps Lucid Dreamer with Deadline Timing resonance

[carmine reef]

yes

but the kinds of people asking these questions don't have sss wanshi

[wintry parcel]

Do you think non SSS rank Lucid Dreamer doing Solo rotation would do anything better?

[carmine reef]

yes

[wintry parcel]

It's probably going to be worse

[carmine reef]

sss benefits swap much, much more than solo

[wintry parcel]

Due to lack of actually dps overall

[pine slate]

No -3s swap so there's more downtime for the trash dps units

Would be good if someone cooked ss3 wanshi solo vs swap with ss 5* qu

[peak halo]

But dalaos cant
All had 3s wanshe

[pine slate]

Cuz ss3 swap is gonna have 3s extra downtime that u can't do sht with

[wintry parcel]

But is it really that bad compared to non SSS rank Lucid Dreamer damage loss

[pine slate]

3s is a lot especially if ur not doing any dmg

In dark runs, even millisecond losses causes ur bianca not to be able to do double rot at the end

Cuz it eventually adds up

3s loss per rotation is a lot

On a unit that has 0 value

[peak halo]

Yeah
When i 3s nana
Still used to 2x3p on 2nd ult too
And seen why am i cant to 9m+ scores

[pine slate]

Wat

[peak halo]

Nanami not need to do 2x3p just on swap on 3s

[thorny bolt]

who do i pick?

ok thanks guys

[leaden tinsel]

wata

[peak halo]

Wata

[quiet lily]

youre welcome

[peak halo]

To where?
Kiwistan

[quiet lily]

yep

[peak halo]

freedom

[quiet lily]

mf couldnt wait a few mins for an answer smh my head

[peak halo]

[sharp estuary]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/28863521/characters qu is the correct choice here from selector right...?

[noble zinc]

[golden nacelle]

[sharp estuary]

well thats nice

[pine slate]

What do u want

Stronger ice? Do u plan on getting wata sss?

[sharp estuary]

ah

i mean i was kinda going for lilith first

stronger ice would be nice but at the same time sss wanshi

[leaden tinsel]

prob still wata

[round lake]

Do you have spare fund for one Sig and another USB for wp reso

That's what u need for Qu or she's ass

[pine slate]

So u don't have vouchers units sss yet

[leaden tinsel]

he has if you checked his acc

[pine slate]

Probably pick qu then, ur wata is on 5* as well

[leaden tinsel]

well the sig atleast didn't check reso

[pine slate]

No sig vera too

[formal radish]

I can't wait to test sss wata

Does it change the fire team rot

[round lake]

Bro doesn't even have Vera, Wata sig and Wanshi is at R0 eh.... Doesnt look like he can afford Qu

[sharp estuary]

i have like 3 usbs lol

[round lake]

Then why is your Wanshi R0 what are u doing bro

[pine slate]

And also idk what ur nanami is on

Why eins

[formal radish]

He's a male he doesn't deserve resonances

[sharp estuary]

oh thats for ignition

[pine slate]

And why is it hypertuned

[pine slate]

Ignition uses 4 cottie

Nanami deals good ignition dmg

[sharp estuary]

well frick

[sharp estuary]

bc i didnt have her sig on release lmao

[pine slate]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[leaden tinsel]

its ok can move to another char and reroll the abilities not waste of hypertune

[noble zinc]

[formal radish]

I never hypertuned qu darwin memo cause I knew I'd get sig

[quiet lily]

be nice guys

[formal radish]

No fck u

[quiet lily]

ok when

[formal radish]

No I'm sorry rai i love you

[noble zinc]

[median spade]

nop

[pine slate]

@noble zinc did u get ss3 qu

[sharp estuary]

so is this a qu or wata pick...?

[noble zinc]

yes

[pine slate]

Fk whel

[noble zinc]

[median spade]

Fk whel

[noble zinc]

222 8m
22.32 8.9m

2.32.32.3 10m
some runs in bili now

[pine slate]

[wintry parcel]

Clown meetings?

I'd love to

[pine slate]

Does ignition stacks even matter in that team?

Idk if stack count buff Vero

[wintry parcel]

It probably does at some point

[noble zinc]

idk much yet but what I hear it's much comfier

[wintry parcel]

I've heard that the stack numbers only affects Startrail at SSS rank and higher

Is that true?

[pine slate]

Ye nanami need sss

[wintry parcel]

Hmm

[pine slate]

Below sss u can turn off ignition affix and still deal same dmg

[median spade]

no 3s nana?

[peak halo]

Surly glb still get the stack bug

[pine slate]

Without the dot that igni give ofc

[peak halo]

Or its already fixed on wz?

[wintry parcel]

Fixed?

What get fixed?

[pine slate]

My igni will be 32.32 tho, Dante nanami Vero

[wintry parcel]

You're such an optimistic guy

[pine slate]

Looks unbalanced af

I'll have to cook another Dante rot

[peak halo]

True

[round lake]

Wata

[sharp estuary]

ok makes sense ty

[limber yoke]

whel

[quiet lily]

whel

[peak halo]

Whel

[steady otter]

Whel

[chilly trail]

Whel

[median spade]

whel

[rose yew]

Whel

[peak halo]

When whels and a dolphin saing whel
Chrrye and elys i not sure

[median spade]

whel

[wintry parcel]

Oh that's slightly better than the previous zone

[peak halo]

Whel-help

[peak halo]

Whats the 3.4m

Dc scores?

[stiff elm]

soon

come to vouchers soon unc

[peak halo]

Soon

[stiff elm]

oh wait

[peak halo]

Why not now

[stiff elm]

lmao u right

[peak halo]

[stiff elm]

wait this is the right method right?

im not tweaking and this wont brick me for the next year, ne?

[wintry parcel]

It was 5* Vergil score without Cottie

[peak halo]

If u had already wanshi and lilith sss yeah

[wintry parcel]

I don't really know what I was doing

But I was doing something

[stiff elm]

bet, but will veronica be on vouchers

like every other amp? or no

im not gonna think to hard abut it

[peak halo]

Ahe no

[round lake]

Not every other bro she's not free

[round lake]

She should've been free, that would've actually excused why she's so much of a fraud

[stiff elm]

all gotta be white haired.

I think I have another base S to SSS rank too

bonka

[opaque ridge]

whel

[sour silo]

Im sure i can 10m without sss hanbrick

[warped axle]

dark op

wait I think I just used fire for ignition

💀☠️

[peak halo]

I seen 10-11m whjt 333 so yeah

[peak halo]

Yeah i think u can go up to 300k with ss3 nana
I get 19s with 3s nanami

[warped axle]

SS0 Vera R1 + SS0 Wata work?

oh wait overlapping shred

hmmm

what comp do I use?

[leaden tinsel]

domte

[astral bison]

is it worth doing ultima wz if i only have ss0 5* hanying?

[soft umbra]

guys how do i get enhancements to upgrade my memories

[quiet lily]

from event shop

[soft umbra]

how do i fight bosses

[quiet lily]

what boss

[soft umbra]

i saw this (i forgot where), but there was a certain boss who changes ur ui?

[quiet lily]

oh

[buoyant hornet]

Fk whel

[quiet lily]

recitativo de caprio

[median shell]

Hamlet?

[quiet lily]

hamlet

[soft umbra]

yah?

[buoyant hornet]

(I also have all 3 of them at sss as f2p )

[quiet lily]

#📨・general-help message

here is the place where u shop almost everything for ur char upgrades

[buoyant hornet]

Recitativo Di Fantasia pls don't misname our favorite horrible game mode

[quiet lily]

[buoyant hornet]

God having to grind that thing for hours only to get one of the top 3 worst gen 2

Lilith saved us fr

[light basin]

i have no desire to spam that mode now that selena is crept

[quiet lily]

nah yall just bunch of heaters that gamemode is fun

[lunar lava]

wait what

oh rdf

Guys Piannisimo or Pyroath?

[buoyant hornet]

Rai lying today I see

[buoyant hornet]

Where's the question

[quiet lily]

for what? dark wz?

[lunar lava]

https://huaxu.app/ap/players/12393728/characters Next construct to pick

[buoyant hornet]

Are you referencing the other day or is this a coincidence

[quiet lily]

wait what happen

did someone tryna be the chef again

[buoyant hornet]

Uhhh Selena is still the main carry of her team + glacio but then again pyro needed for ion 💀

[lunar lava]

exactlyy

[buoyant hornet]

No I was trolling here pretending to be a newbie DMC bro and asking infuriating questions

[quiet lily]

wheres the option for both

[quiet lily]

@mods ban this guy pls

[lunar lava]

Basic selector

and with Veronica in the corner I cant afford to gambo in the arrival banner

[normal sierra]

just select 2x and get both, ez

[buoyant hornet]

I'd say Selena more important rn since fire has copium options temporarily + ion is relatively rare these days

Ion and glacio got sacrificed so kuro can shove DMC affixes down our throats

[quiet lily]

i mean, u were here the entire time im pretty sure so idk how u dont have both pyroath and selene

[astral bison]

worth?

[lunar lava]

Is there an image that shows what ppc/wz content we will get for the patch/

[quiet lily]

any choice is fine ig, but ye better to aim for phys then since its the main elem

[buoyant hornet]

2 people actually fell for it but one of them somehow found my youtube channel and figured it out

[lunar lava]

I went kiwi for 1.5 years

[quiet lily]

u shouldve stayed dead

[lunar lava]

[buoyant hornet]

Nope this is the most unpredictable patch we've had because in 8 days we'll literally be synced to CN and we don't know what they'll do with ppc/wz after that

[lunar lava]

I see

[light basin]

wow

[buoyant hornet]

And this warzone week was completely off-prediction because they accidentally copied the warzone set from 2 weeks ago 💀

Like literally 1:1 cloned week

[light basin]

awesome devs

[buoyant hornet]

Smol indie company pls understand

I'm playing as minimally as possible this week to save energy for veronica testing after her debut

[lunar lava]

Also dont have Hanying and coping with SSS rosetta

[buoyant hornet]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[quiet lily]

whens mama vero?

[buoyant hornet]

October 10th

[normal sierra]

midnica on 10/10

[light basin]

do pgr players like anything

[quiet lily]

bad take henry

[buoyant hornet]

Idek what to say your physical is cooked no matter what you do 💀

[lunar lava]

well gotta deal with the hands I get

[quiet lily]

damn dropping on 10/10 and shes a 10 out of 10

[buoyant hornet]

What's your exact physical team lol

Rn

[lunar lava]

rn? Stigmata, Rosetta, Alisa

[buoyant hornet]

She's a 10 minus 10 out of 10 exactly

[buoyant hornet]

I feel like I got sent back to the stone ages are you getting Veronica at least

[sour silo]

Ice can die

[lunar lava]

yea plan to

[sour silo]

Wanshi debuff never register

[light basin]

be fr what teams do u guys actually enjoy

[buoyant hornet]

Physical without a shred field is a damn nightmare but at least there's that ig

[quiet lily]

[light basin]

like genuinely you play the team and think it's fun

[normal sierra]

midanca + midnica at the same time, this patch is full of mid

[buoyant hornet]

I enjoy all except solo nanami that sht can burn down

[sour silo]

Ignition, fire, trueslash

[buoyant hornet]

Please lightning amp or attacker soon

[lunar lava]

Shred field? Did they create another parameter for physical just to make Hanying relevant lmao

[quiet lily]

dark(before bianca), lightning

[buoyant hornet]

No that's literally all relevant tanks rn lol

[sour silo]

Lightning is just 4 buttons

[quiet lily]

i put before bianca just bcs i have never experienced the ones with bianca

[lunar lava]

SSS rosetta has 100% shred or is that too weak?

[sour silo]

Phys def shred < phys resistance shred

[quiet lily]

u dont play swap lightning ofc u gonna say that

[buoyant hornet]

Huge part of why they're so good aside from their own dmg output is that they leave behind a field that automatically applies shred for 12s (timestoppable too)

[lunar lava]

ouh

[quiet lily]

swap lightning is fun, solo lightning is just residentsleeper

[buoyant hornet]

It's good but ss hanying is 100% AND it applies through shred field

Makes shred x10 more consistent and takes away some pressure off of QTE perfection for shred application

[normal sierra]

solo nana is the best, that's where I relax after my ppc mald

[buoyant hornet]

Solo ignition is cocaine simulator whenever I play it I lose track of where I am in the run

[sour silo]

Well watank's off field shred is always present because of leap

[buoyant hornet]

Thank goodness Veronica will swap with her or I'd lose my mind

[sour silo]

Also vera 3-4s rot

Very enjoyable

[quiet lily]

then losing burning stacks just wake u the fk up

[sour silo]

Its a gamble fr

[quiet lily]

from cloud 9 to literal graveyard restart we go agane

[buoyant hornet]

Yes I wake up specifically to promise myself to 2-tap that zone and leave with my sanity intact

[quiet lily]

well thats what i heard idk i never played burn

[normal sierra]

restart? at wz? couldn't be me

[quiet lily]

u ppc sweats restarting more than 2000 times a week smh my head

[sour silo]

I just 1 tap mine

[normal sierra]

ehh, dis week I barely restarted 20 times kek
slacc week for real

[quiet lily]

[buoyant hornet]

Well your physical will be permanently handicapped until you can get hanying so idk if it's best to just go all-in on fire and have ion team vs. just try to partially compensate for physical being a mess

Idk if Veronica can solo I'll look into that

Because units these days kill so fast that relying solely on QTEs to apply shred is a dead concept

[lunar lava]

So hanying more prio than Piannisimo?

[buoyant hornet]

Technically yes lol

[lunar lava]

[normal sierra]

but you can get hanying from thunderbricc banner

[sour silo]

I only mald trueslash since ice and dark just 1 tap fr

[buoyant hornet]

If glacio wz or ppc actually showed up more than once every 10 years

[lunar lava]

used that to get Nanami

[buoyant hornet]

I would say glavio

[normal sierra]

ohh, rip then

[sour silo]

Flux can die too

[buoyant hornet]

Selector refresh next patch TRUST

[normal sierra]

[lunar lava]

if that happens its a blessing

[buoyant hornet]

You'll have to hope that the A rank one-time selector refreshes next patch since it's anniversary patch

[light basin]

LOL

kuro anniversary

[buoyant hornet]

Waiting for the livestream to see what we're getting lmao

[normal sierra]

it would be great indeed, me could get sss nana with that

[lunar lava]

Yea cant pull on any more Arrival* banners without getting lucky with Vero* or comprimising Liv

[sour silo]

Please be liv dorm so i can sss vero

[buoyant hornet]

"more"

[lunar lava]

yea used the arrival banner to get Geiravor since I early pitied Bianca

[buoyant hornet]

Imagine greedkurogames making the anniversary unit AND one of their most popular characters free

I genuinely would love that but ain't no way lmao 😭

[dreamy pelican]

is there a way to enable 120fps on mobile? my phone caps pgr at 60fps and it sucks

[buoyant hornet]

I mean that's one way to do it I suppose

[buoyant hornet]

Don't think so lol

[buoyant hornet]

Imagine having obiz invest phone that can run 120fps

Mine crashes out when there's 3 mobs on screen

Pc version my love

[normal sierra]

imagine smol screen gaming

[dreamy pelican]

tbf we have been starved of a dorm unit for a while

[buoyant hornet]

Lowkey the game looks and feels better on a phone for some reason but yeah I can never use it for serious malding on most teams

[dreamy pelican]

like.... a long while

last one was fcking wanshi

[light basin]

since wanshi right

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh I'd rather the next free character is in a similar banner to Lilith's but I'll take dorm too at least

[dreamy pelican]

true, that would be the best case scenario

but knowing kuso....

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah Lilith was a genuine gift lmao

[normal sierra]

how would you know if it looks better or not when half of the screen is obstructed by your fingers all the time anyway?

[dreamy pelican]

damn kuso and their games

[buoyant hornet]

Idk it's just the feelz

[dreamy pelican]

not to mention the big ass buttons and shtty ui

[cyan pollen]

Still didn't get mine

[dreamy pelican]

sure game, dont give me an option to change the wz wave timer at all

[light basin]

One of these days kuro will need to farm a devs listened moment again

That's when we'll get free liv

[quiet lily]

they dont do that here

its only for wuwa, get fked

[dreamy pelican]

rougelikes suck too bc my qtes are at the top left of the screen

and the popup messages you get in roguelikes block me from triggering my qtes

[dreamy pelican]

last time they did that was during dmc beta

and even then casuals got mad

the last time they did a devs listened moment visually was ishmael iirc

[normal sierra]

they didn't listen at dmcring patch, wutdaheck
I told them to cancel that garbo collab, but they didn't

[light basin]

tempted to get vera ss3

[supple saddle]

who is the best A rank omniframe?

[dreamy pelican]

there's no best in a general perspective, because

1. s ranks are the main stay here; usually a ranks arent ranked because they are rarely used

2. different elements and affixes means that you cant rank em all together

if you have to have an answer, most people would generally say discord because of her being the only a rank with timestop

[normal sierra]

but Jetavie is best, cuz she meta lobby char

[light basin]

bruh i just fkn scire cub...

[normal sierra]

you offrated cub pull?

[dreamy pelican]

[light basin]

trying to catch up on old cubs

mb ig

[normal sierra]

rip

[dreamy pelican]

why would you ever want scire cub in the big 2025

[quiet lily]

its the calling

[dreamy pelican]

or did you pull for sumn else and got that

[quiet lily]

pull scire

[light basin]

i asked for hanying cub

[dreamy pelican]

xdd

i feel ya man

[light basin]

my scire is already ss3 r2 leaped wtf more does she want from me

[normal sierra]

sss3 of course

[light basin]

kill kuro games

[wintry parcel]

Dqmn

[normal sierra]

dat escalated quickly

[wintry parcel]

I already forgot how to play slash

[dreamy pelican]

one thing that we can agree with

[leaden tinsel]

[light basin]

why does lilith plasma feel so bad to play

[brave oar]

so i have sss r2 qu, ss3 WITHOUT signature wanshi and im guessing thats the reason my score is so low?

[supple saddle]

umm ok

[normal sierra]

you mean solo lilick? cuz I can see that being mehh to play, especially with how wet noodle dmg she does there

but at swap play she's just hold basic for the whole run lul

[light basin]

no it's with pyroath, hold basic just feels unresponsive

[normal sierra]

it is? never had that problem

[warped axle]

DLT or DD for solo nanami?

[formal radish]

It's cause you're not playing the team properly

What tier of warzone are you in

[formal radish]

DLT is more comfortable

[normal sierra]

dlt if you wanna feel comfortable at wz
dd at ppc

[light basin]

what should my plasma ppc score be

[brave oar]

that explains it since i just got shukras new rank so

[warped axle]

can DD stay on field throughout?

[brave oar]

like hero/legend or? cause yeah im hero

[formal radish]

It triggers on hit iirc so it's not a field

But whenever she does place a field that triggers dd

[warped axle]

no I mean, nanami's field time

[formal radish]

But dd is not a field itself

[normal sierra]

what team invest?

[formal radish]

It triggers on hit so anything nanami hits will have 8% shred

[warped axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1412535389222211795/cradle.gif

[formal radish]

This is atleast 4-5m if you're atleast somewhat okay at the game

[warped axle]

I meant if nanami can stay or not without DLT

[quiet lily]

damn that means im bad

[light basin]

ss3 pyroath ss3 lilith ss0 nana, all r1

[warped axle]

can solo nanami with 4pc heisen?

[formal radish]

She can stay what, swap or solo

[warped axle]

solo

[formal radish]

Solo without dlt is rough

Other guy already told u when to use it tho

[normal sierra]

I hear people saying no dlt nana can still solo, but I could never cope with that

[formal radish]

[light basin]

that sounds miserable

[quiet lily]

just a little bit of more basic attacking chat

[proud kettle]

what's the general idea for qte timing on wz

[formal radish]

If you can kill it without qte then dont use it

[carmine reef]

Non dlt nana can still solo and it is not the worst thing ever, but it is still the worse option

[proud kettle]

[formal radish]

Unless you already don't have alot of qte opportunities

[carmine reef]

As in dlt is still the highest scoring option for r1

[formal radish]

Zex will you ever go to gen help

[carmine reef]

Why would i

That channel's existence is half the reason i left to begin with

[formal radish]

Wow elitims

[carmine reef]

I don't like the idea that people can give bad answers and I'm not allowed to contest them

[quiet lily]

[formal radish]

Honestly gen help has just become gph2

[quiet lily]

nah that channel can never be gph

[carmine reef]

More like neither of these channels come close to what gph was

[formal radish]

I mean as in the use for the channel isn't what zex said anymore

[normal sierra]

uhh, never saw any vids with that specific invest, but windbell's team is close enuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdQT3PH3os8

[formal radish]

Ok maybe it's not gph2 but it's metahelp2

[light basin]

oh my lilith build is messed up

[thorny bolt]

okay u h so i have a question, whats luna's main build?

[normal sierra]

4 sig mem + 4 cottie or 4 sig mem + 2 cottie + 2 einst for nihil wz
4 dv + 2 einst + 2 gloria/lantern for zaza teams or ppc

[unborn hound]

Wait

I can't argue with people there ?

I feel like arguing is all I do there

[normal sierra]

people do that all the time, just have at it

[cyan pollen]

@deft apex i cant redeem the card im asked to provide additional information did that happen for you too

[proud kettle]

no but u can slander them for liking qu tho

[distant wren]

Slander me then

[proud kettle]

@unborn hound u know what to do