📨・general-help

[sturdy bough]

first

Provide a link to your account by searching in huaxu when asking for which characters to pull/build so that members can help assist you better!

https://huaxu.app/ap/players
-# Don't forget to swap the region if you're not in AP server.

[lavish silo]

[grizzled sequoia]

[wary widget]

New Channel to breath in

[dapper onyx]

[wary widget]

And I'm still banned from pins

[sturdy bough]

lol

we back

gonna look for the other pins that were here b4

better to have newbies chill players come here than get yelled at in #📨・meta-help

[worldly zealot]

better than forums format

this is actually fine

[sturdy bough]

no more blank screen of doom

[tepid marsh]

Leaving my digital footprint here

[shrewd citrus]

the fact that i can now choose to get yelled at or not, it's actually pretty nice

[storm pasture]

lucky specifically targeted you

from violet to lucky

[shy oxide]

Don't know who this person is.

[wary widget]

[pearl laurel]

is this the place where we tell people to pull cw?

[worldly zealot]

Patch Name: Dream Till The Timeless End
NOTE #1: This patch is an integrated patch containing 3 patches worth contents. Weeklies, Dailies, Norman and Clash Reflection rewards, and everything which gives rewards will have their income boosted to patch or compensate for the 3-patch merged patch

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Information about the debut Omniframes:

• Name — Selena: Pianissimo
  • Rank: S
  • Element: Physical
  • Type: Attacker
  • Effect: Glaciation
  • NOTE — Selena is the Main-DPS for Physical and Glaciation Teams and a REAL GOOD ONE at that. Also we are getting a Glaciation boss in Ultimate PPC with 30m HP at Hell.
• Name — Jetavie: Daybreak
  • Rank: A
  • Element: Dark
  • Type: Attacker
  • Effect: Ignition
  • NOTE — Free SSS+ with 6k Serum spending. BEST DIGITAL GYARU IS FINALLY HERE !
• Name — Vera: Geiravor
  • Rank: S
  • Element: Fire
  • Type: Amplifier
  • Effect: Darkflow
  • NOTE — Finally out of Empyrea's terrible buff amount. Vera is a very good Amplifier as well as Fire Sub-DPS.

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jumpscare

[sturdy bough]

CW is free tho

[dapper onyx]

Echo has glaciation? tf I didn't know up until I check bot-info

[devout mantle]

her leap gives her glaciation affix

[ivory ermine]

it is part of her leap upgrade

[devout mantle]

so next patch she'll have it

[pearl laurel]

who cares, just pull cuz cw

[ivory ermine]

new mechanism added to her skill kit

[shrewd citrus]

no

[fringe elbow]

Ok guys I'll make a slightly big pin
Can y'all stop talking for a moment

[sturdy bough]

better to get free then the ppc shards

aye

[dapper onyx]

so echo has ultima and glacia... dang opeh sup

[shrewd citrus]

yess boss

[sturdy bough]

ah I see what you're doing

[fringe elbow]

Format for how to ask for help in this channel as a First-Timer here or Newbie/Beginner in-game

#1. Go in-game and copy your Friend ID from your profile

#2. Then go to "Huaxu" website and paste it in the box. Be sure to select the proper server your account is in

• Asia-Pacific : https://huaxu.app/ap/players
• North America : https://huaxu.app/na/players
• Europe : https://huaxu.app/eu/players
• China : https://huaxu.app/cn/players
• Taiwan : https://huaxu.app/tw/players
• Korea : https://huaxu.app/kr/players
• Japan : https://huaxu.app/jp/players

#3. Tap "Find Player" and load your profile there (be sure to have your profile on public)

#4. Copy the link and post it here with your question

Something like this:

Then your question"```

#5. Do not worry, Huaxu website is not some malware or account stealing site. It is made by a player to help us show our accounts to each other.

[sturdy bough]

[shrewd citrus]

is it... done?

[fringe elbow]

Done

[sturdy bough]

FREEDOM

[wet bluff]

You know noone will ask like that right?

[fringe elbow]

Atleast it gets the basic system

[sturdy bough]

still good ref pin

[ivory ermine]

Uhmm, hi can i be your friend?

[sturdy bough]

it's easier to help when we know what frames someone has

[fringe elbow]

You need to send your account info before asking or else we'll not know what you neeed

[fierce shore]

[shrewd citrus]

ngl, seeing you try to finish the tutorial, and everyone just straight up ignoring u was one of the funniest thing ever

[sturdy bough]

I've only known you for a couple of hours so not to be rude but respectfully no

[fierce shore]

quick question can you not get your account breached cus they have your id now?

[fierce shore]

[fringe elbow]

It's your friend ID

Not your Account ID

There's 2 IDs

Friend ID and UID

[fierce shore]

so it has nothing to do with my account than?

[fringe elbow]

It's only purpose is to use it either on codashop to top-up or add friends

[wet bluff]

Arr I see I always wondered what that 8 digit account for

[sturdy bough]

at the most random people will harass you with random friend request

[fringe elbow]

The UID at the top right corner of your login screen is what you need to hide

[fierce shore]

ah yeah the other reason i hid my id was so no one troll me and get me out of my f2p status with like one rc

[open spade]

Where can I find a guide for Cursed Waves?

[shrewd citrus]

[fierce shore]

that is gonna be pain

[sturdy bough]

wait there's a pinned thing lemme find it

[fringe elbow]

#📨・meta-help

[shrewd citrus]

my time to shine, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AZG9V0J0It5TcKRN1aPYTicje-Cb0gjA2tPR-SYH9H4/edit?usp=sharing

[open spade]

Ayy, thanks mate

[sturdy bough]

#📨・meta-help message

[fierce shore]

oh i thought it and the friend id was same daam thanks for telling me that not gonna show anyone my uid so like if some one knows that they can manipulate it or something?

[shrewd citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cyclops-ryu-dap-me-up-dap-dap-up-gif-2485274535169214603

[sturdy bough]

I'll ask Fabio to bring it here too

[fringe elbow]

Only Kuro and you should know it

[fringe elbow]

Yea

Wait

[shrewd citrus]

[fierce shore]

okay thanks for the heads up i am gonna make sure to always be careful of the log in screen now

[fringe elbow]

PGR Rougelite Guides

Cursed Wave Guide Sheet by stagz
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AZG9V0J0It5TcKRN1aPYTicje-Cb0gjA2tPR-SYH9H4/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.5itufzyue7zr

Derived from Matrix Guide Sheet by koltuh
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ves3NSyv1TY031TwJ2SEHpe63c376khDNdRu53XgV3g/edit
Achievements Task Guide by 0_1234_5_6789_0
#📨・meta-help message

Awakening Tundra Endings by hex3393
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkqeNmszBJ5ofB2yc3zzh8b9XhK6gV5L4vu2M_eenac/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[iron hare]

Farewell gameplay help.

[calm radish]

general-help does not really sounds like help for new players tbh

did DMC triggered this change

[sturdy bough]

putting newbie in the title made it too long unfortunately

[ivory ermine]

I do not think newcomer would be really familiar with the huaxu system

[shrewd citrus]

probably

[calm radish]

#newbie-help
fixed that for you

[fringe elbow]

The Casual vs Meta did

[sturdy bough]

it's simple to ask them to follow the pins tho

[fringe elbow]

Also DMC is part of it

Since casual

[sturdy bough]

thing is there's non newbie casual players

shocker someone plays PGR not to mald

[shrewd citrus]

i mean, we got a peak of casual players questions thanks to DMC collab (me included)

[ivory ermine]

I personally think it would not be necessary if it was some general question such as "where to get X material", "how do i level up faster?" Etc

[sturdy bough]

but it's true

[fierce shore]

@calm radish say does this fit your description

[calm radish]

https://tenor.com/view/tremendo-nervosa-ansiosa-tímida-gif-3633786138434014991

[ivory ermine]

But it just my opinion

[sturdy bough]

yes but for team building it's helpful

like one guy asking in the already nuked forum ver

[dapper onyx]

11194932 ASIA server go see the curse

[calm radish]

[sturdy bough]

they were asking who to build for a third team

[fierce shore]

yeah i would change profile name before they notice

[sturdy bough]

had them go huaxu to help

[calm radish]

I think I'm still within the boundaries

[fierce shore]

okay gl bro

[calm radish]

besides, if wuwacord is ok with this

would be extremely odd here

[flint fractal]

How to ping orbs

[fierce shore]

your number keys 1 to 8

[wet bluff]

Newbie come here and not only do they get slapped with info dump but also have to learn systems on how to ask

[worldly zealot]

pls remove imbed here ty

[fierce shore]

by default

[flint fractal]

Thank you I'll try it on mobile

[shrewd citrus]

what if play controller?

[fringe elbow]

Bruh

Well it's your place so ok

[fierce shore]

wait on phone i think you just do touch input unless you using controller

[flint fractal]

Touch input
I input my touch?

[fierce shore]

than you would have to map the keys accordingly

[north ether]

is this the evil help channel

[tall sentinel]

kinda

[sturdy bough]

I mean first guy I asked to use huaxu didn't have a problem

[fierce shore]

yeah like on your phone screen you see orbs so press the orbs you want to ping

[north ether]

[sturdy bough]

the pin just makes it easier to ref

[flint fractal]

I thought there'd be an input bar to input my touch

[fierce shore]

can we get timer down a bit its slow

[fringe elbow]

This is Lennahc Pleh and it is Evil

[shrewd citrus]

what if i play mobile with a controller

[fierce shore]

like i said in settings you would have to map the keys for your controller

[shrewd citrus]

i'm joking

[fierce shore]

i never played on phone but i see people use custom ui to have everything near middle so they can be efficient to ping orbs and ult and qte and stuff so yeah touch input

[worldly zealot]

EVENT FARMING STAGES

• Get access to Event Farming stage through the Battle menu > Limited Event > Simulated Battlefield.
• Spend your serum and acquire Simulation Score.

Please note that the Simulation Score is a permanent currency.

• Exchange your Simulation Score for anything you need in the Event Shop (EXP Pods, Skill Points, Cogs, Memories...)

• Shop gets updated every patches.

• Reach Authority Level 25 to unlock Auto-Clear.

[fringe elbow]

Who gave helpers perm

Especially Fabio

[flint fractal]

They help

[ebon stone]

Is it still level gated?

[storm pasture]

fabio is the most productive guy what r u on

[fringe elbow]

Once level 25 is forever level 25

[proud jay]

doesnt require lv40 anymore
helper spreading misinfo

[fringe elbow]

Why he is Fabio

[brave kettle]

"general help" bro im dying

[shrewd citrus]

YOOOO how are you bro

[ebon stone]

Commandant lvl

[worldly zealot]

what are you talking about? don't see that typed in

[calm radish]

my nickname predates pgr, 2018 though
and I started playing pgr in 2022
didn't even know Karenina exists so there's that...

[flint fractal]

Pli help me I don't understand how this game works 🥀

[brave kettle]

time to enlist my services in the one place i can act like a dalao

[proud jay]

sorry my bad. mustve been ezra

[fringe elbow]

WHAT

EXCUSE ME

[proud jay]

ez, why name change
wha happun

[fierce shore]

[proud jay]

did admin get mad

[shrewd citrus]

i'm laughting so hard rn

[flat iron]

Hi, I'm a dmc fan and i was about to ask, when's the estimated release date for the DMC collab? Just spent some black cards and would want to know so i can grind again

[tardy jackal]

what what happened to the forums

[shrewd citrus]

August

[sturdy bough]

too buggy

[elfin steeple]

Gl yall

[flat iron]

Oh, that's still some time

[calm radish]

rip, 2025-2025

[tardy jackal]

fr

[proud jay]

alooo
im aight. kinda melting cause i live in an attic. but just been playing cyberpunk all day. nothing to note

[ebon stone]

Should i send banner rate again?

[calm radish]

how come wuwacord has forums and they working?

some argument does not sounds legit

[shrewd citrus]

if i could, i'd send you an automatic fan

[proud jay]

aug 6th
if you go to #📨・bot-info and type in /roadmap , you'll get, well, a roadmap

[sturdy bough]

it would be helpful ye

[shrewd citrus]

yo wait rly?

[proud jay]

am i that popular

[ebon stone]

R&D GACHA RATE

• S Rank Debut banner (THEMED) 100% chance

• Rerun S Rank banner (ARRIVAL) 70% chance

• Target Weapon banner 30 pity 80% chance (lose once guaranteed next)

• Target Uniframe 10 pity 80% chance (old unit, not recommended to waste here)

• Cub 20 pity, Debut Cub with 100% chance - Old Cub 80% chance

• Normal Banner 0.5% with 60 pity

• Fate Banner 1.5% with 80~100 pity

[shrewd citrus]

time to put in the work 💪

[worldly zealot]

thanks

i was hoping u'd post that again

[calm radish]

why are people pinning non-mod / non-helper messages?

[proud jay]

try it out

[sturdy bough]

thank you

[shrewd citrus]

idk, u where one of the first that i talked to in this server, ur now liked to my pgr experience

[ebon stone]

Cause im le goated

[sturdy bough]

info is info

[calm radish]

they gonna instantly switch content of pinned message, like ploom propaganda

[sturdy bough]

if ezra doesn't like it you'll see them overhaul

[fringe elbow]

What

[proud jay]

those useful links are never coming bro

[fierce shore]

dmc is gonna come around in 6th august and you can complete story missions, pain cage, warzone, norman revival plan for weeklies and for one times you can do challenges and game mode like golden vortex, stronghold, memory rescue etc

[sturdy bough]

o I'll notice dw

[fringe elbow]

Yea
Not this patch atleast

[calm radish]

[fringe elbow]

Cuz I can't post this patch

[sturdy bough]

the guy who posted rates isn't a mod/helper kek

[fringe elbow]

Exams starting from 25th

[fringe elbow]

Oh it's fine
Info is info

[tardy jackal]

7hour maintainence 💔

[proud jay]

wait we have the same pins here twice now

[fierce shore]

daam bro

[proud jay]

EZRAAAAAAAAA

[sturdy bough]

@calm radish hah

[shrewd citrus]

DMC patch coming is cool but... 17 more days and we get Vera

[calm radish]

I've seen what was happening last couple hours, I'll not question the competence further

[proud jay]

thank you kindly

[calm radish]

just saying, pinning helper and mod messages is much safer than random person messages

[sturdy bough]

nah I get what you mean

if it changes we'll just take it down no biggie

[dapper onyx]

ya'll completed main chapters? me been stuck in 3rd quator for like 2-3 years

[proud jay]

quick edit and suddenly, theres a lengthy, cylinder-shaped object instead of info on selena patch

[brave kettle]

hello xav

[south dragon]

GPH IS BACK

[proud jay]

i play this game specifically for the story

[brave kettle]

need to lock in for a report, then study for 2 tests wednesday

[calm radish]

quick edit, 100% motivated alpha vs twins copypasta

[oak oriole]

GPH is back

[sturdy bough]

oh ez ban

[brave kettle]

gph is back baby

[proud jay]

hello timi

[south dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-i-used-to-pray-meek-mill-dreams-and-nightmares-dreams-and-nightmares-michael-jordan-gif-4600240804856944817

[proud jay]

holy take
in gph? this cant be real

[shrewd citrus]

u got this

[oak oriole]

wdym, I learned my bridget tech here

[calm radish]

is there a rule for editing pinned messages?

[wet bluff]

What about you make meta help hidden channel with role specific that you choose at your own risk?
All the newbies go there are getting eaten alive

[proud jay]

that was how many months ago

[south dragon]

blue + ba spam?

[oak oriole]

half a year ago

[sturdy bough]

if you have decency you won't do anything that'll warrant a warn

server rules still apply to pins

[oak oriole]

and also the difference between ignition rot and fire rot

[calm radish]

🫰 🧱

[sturdy bough]

tbh if they go to meta first thing, that's on them

[dapper onyx]

GG I didn't even read the story... just skip..

[sturdy bough]

they'll go through the filtering

[proud jay]

realest

[dapper onyx]

such dedication...

[grizzled sequoia]

vc just had a funny fight

[shrewd citrus]

i just opened the meta channel and saw a user say "i'm a f2p", he's gonna get destroyed soon

[proud jay]

god i saw the people in there, immedietly called there was gonna be a fight

[sturdy bough]

if they want meta and can't accept meta advice then the filter worked

[fierce shore]

and those who adapt will become ascendant

[shrewd citrus]

i'm spending 77,500 BC on DMC while still getting Pianissimo and Vera, this game got me hooked

[south dragon]

Oh, Fizz is there, LET ME IN

[sturdy bough]

ye

[calm radish]

natural progression

general help -> meta-help -> wuwacord-gph

[fierce shore]

general help -> meta-help -> whale help

[south dragon]

The last part is regression

[calm radish]

(then they come back cuz tired of echo farming)

[shrewd citrus]

now that you spawned in this channel, i feel at home ngl

[calm radish]

everytime I see discussion about echo substats in wuwa-cord I get little uneasy

[proud jay]

peak gph is back
it was a good couple hours of trolling and ragebaiting, but we are so back

[south dragon]

I'm alway here, lurking, watching

[fierce shore]

ngl this channel feels like actual meta help channel the meta help channel is pgr general chat 2.0

[brave kettle]

guys meta help is being toxic rn

[grizzled sequoia]

the main character (fizz) was saying "i dont need to use nanami, cw does more damage, doesnt matter"

[south dragon]

This feels like a certain event in germany in 1990

[oak oriole]

Xav, engaged in tomfoolery?

[shrewd citrus]

thank god

[south dragon]

PEAK

This is truly a Fizz moment

[brave kettle]

wait is here peak gph or is meta help peak gph

[grizzled sequoia]

unfortunately i only managed to record the comms halfway through the fight

[calm radish]

there be now 3 factions in war:
#💬・pgr-general
#📨・meta-help
#📨・general-help

[cinder zinc]

Resource calculator needed to max units & harmonization guide

[proud jay]

[wet bluff]

I'm f2p too and been playing since beginning

[sturdy bough]

[proud jay]

when is the fire nation attacking

[south dragon]

YOU

[fierce shore]

[proud jay]

oh i dont engage in it. im a good boy
i just booted up cyberpunk and ignored

[shrewd citrus]

you are one of the best

[calm radish]

you mean cybering waves?

[wet bluff]

Awww

[proud jay]

pantsu your humours getting worse. are you okay?

[shrewd citrus]

so we have to pick a side to fight for?

[storm pasture]

omg fel is actively helping

[fierce shore]

i am the only true f2p playing for a year now

[wet bluff]

Sure sure

[calm radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1328735623015829534/1333145388709974067/karen_pressing_buttons.gif

[stable sable]

uve been rightless for a year?

[fierce shore]

why you here

[calm radish]

to get punished again next year

[fierce shore]

[cinder zinc]

dw i will be gone for a while when dmc patch come

[grizzled sequoia]

mods can you hang around in vc a bit, i think they might still be arguing

[proud jay]

J you succeeded. made abyss go to casual help

[sturdy bough]

Use #📨・bot-info for bot commands including builds, minmax, and ppc scores. The channel was moved to this category to make it easy to access so using this channel for bot commands will now be a warn. Exceptions are made for when using the commands to helping people and when they are directly related to a question.

[shrewd citrus]

[proud jay]

im really damn curious now

[shrewd citrus]

i'mma go watch evangelion guys, see ya'll later

[grizzled sequoia]

i got it recorded

[sturdy bough]

I'm concerned

[south dragon]

cya

[grizzled sequoia]

not gonna post it though

[proud jay]

dms pookie bear

[stable sable]

enjoy!!! goated franchise

[fierce shore]

what you mean i am in both channels

i talk where i like when i like

[proud jay]

shhhhh its needed for my joke

[worldly zealot]

[magic jolt]

Wwooow

[fierce shore]

tell me when i care

[stable sable]

u wana fight?

[exotic dagger]

[calm radish]

oh cmon bro, how can you skip the sausage fest?

[magic jolt]

So cool laa

[sturdy bough]

aye if you wanna argue the semantics of anime go #🚀・off-topic-lobby lol

[exotic dagger]

ironic

[calm radish]

pgr is anime no?

[sturdy bough]

non PGR anime

[fierce shore]

yeah they even made anime ep on youtube too

[sturdy bough]

tho Iunno why you'd need help with Panini

[brave kettle]

YOU MFS TREATING THIS PLACE LIKE GENERAL

[fierce shore]

@sturdy bough i got few questions first is it okay if i can ping you or other active mods two can i post pgr related images and video here or meta help?

[proud jay]

timi you aint no better shush

[ebon stone]

Can i edit pin a bit? Look too messy

[sturdy bough]

the one that you had me pin earlier? you can if you need to

[sturdy bough]

are the perms gone here?

[frigid oyster]

it has general in the name

[fierce shore]

idk i thought it would be better to ask before i do something that would have consequences

[exotic dagger]

[sturdy bough]

if it's on topic like a video showing a rotation or how to get resources n etc should be fine as long as it isn't misinfo or something that breaks the rules

[brave kettle]

lazy fks smh smh my head

[sturdy bough]

leaks aren't allowed anywhere, so make sure PGR officially announced things before sharing

[fierce shore]

can i post luna oblivion doing caramel dancing animated video

[sturdy bough]

I mean we got gen chat for that

[fierce shore]

i dont talk to those guys

[brave kettle]

segregation might be a good thing actually

[stable sable]

even the rightless have standards

[cinder zinc]

Okay since this is already on topic. Wanted to ask whether beta kit discussion is allowed or not in #📨・meta-help or here for theorycrafting and character pull planning ?

[sturdy bough]

really as long as things aren't derailed so horribly it needs to go to #🚀・off-topic-lobby or #💬・pgr-general it's fine

[brave kettle]

oh you can talk about beta

just as long as it wasnt illegally leaked

[frigid oyster]

the people who asked for this left :v

[sturdy bough]

as for theory crafting

[brave kettle]

we just gotta bring them back, KURAIMAKSUUU

[sturdy bough]

just make sure you say that it's a theory

[frigid oyster]

yeah no not after how they handled the split

[sturdy bough]

so people don't mistake it for official

[deep sedge]

How about one thing where lucia got a skin i saw somewhere lucia got blue hair highlights

[exotic dagger]

[brave kettle]

more tricky cause theories about the lore would usually go in #🎲・glb-lore but no cn content is allowed there

[sturdy bough]

story theories for there yea

[wet bluff]

[frigid oyster]

anyways unfortunately no cooking someone in here im sad

[sturdy bough]

moveset is sorta on an awkward border

[exotic dagger]

[sturdy bough]

cause talking about potential gameplay isn't lore

[fierce shore]

you know my head kinda hurts on keep switching between general and meta help

[worldly zealot]

Come here for specific story nodes (the ??? achievements)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lw0sWZVfXFh-YZ9O2qxZCpU6UW7dpCS34i773bzAkcs/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[worldly zealot]

[wet bluff]

🐦

[sturdy bough]

theory crafting ain't allowed in meta tho pretty sure

[exotic dagger]

shameless selfpromo

[frigid oyster]

ok wait hang on what u mean illegally leak beta stuff?

[sturdy bough]

theory crafting can fit in #💬・pgr-general if it goes too in-depth tbh

[sturdy bough]

if PGR hasn't officially posted the content or publicly streamed it would be considered a leak

[proud jay]

i mean, most betas are open so it dont matter
but they started doing closed betas. those cant be posted

[brave kettle]

i mean we had that private beta recently so talking about any info from that would be a nono right

[white wasp]

Gameplay help is back

[sturdy bough]

yes it'd be a nono

[proud jay]

we never left baby

[white wasp]

[brave kettle]

holdup remove the word "officially" cause kuro games the idiots they are leak sht all the time

[frigid oyster]

huh? theory crafting like buildwise?

[brave kettle]

like cristolfo or whatever his name is 5* resonater

[brave kettle]

is the story that far outside your train of thought

[magic jolt]

What's rhe difference between general and meta help

[sturdy bough]

when I think officially I think either announced or a public stream that was greenlit

[brave kettle]

general help is for dmc and cw fans

[magic jolt]

I see

[frigid oyster]

he wasnt specific

[sturdy bough]

newbies and chill players here essentially

[brave kettle]

now we just gotta bring back the dalaos

[exotic dagger]

[magic jolt]

Questions that aren't really meta

[frigid oyster]

too late

[proud jay]

they quit the game bruv

[sturdy bough]

yea

when people ask tips for their fav chars that clearly aren't meta

[fierce shore]

are you telling me we made a whole other text channel just for that? and not even name it dmc chat?

[wet bluff]

[sturdy bough]

cause shocker, some people don't care about pulling the newest char and just wanna play favorites and don't wanna be dunked on

[brave kettle]

abyss have you seen what happens when you pour meta and dmc enjoyers in the same bottle

[trail cipher]

bricc channel vs optimal channel

[brave kettle]

wait when i say for dmc fans i dont mean it literally cmon now

[frigid oyster]

we could have had this a long time ago 😭

[sturdy bough]

let people have fun

[frigid oyster]

lies

[sturdy bough]

pushed this idea recently after seeing too many incidents

[brave kettle]

@sturdy bough why did we wait until half the dalaos quit before doing this

[pale prairie]

XD got glitched out while doing this event

[sturdy bough]

higher ups stuff

[brave kettle]

the pgr honeytrap is obvious they aint gonna fall back into it nnooooooo

[sturdy bough]

just broke through recently

[trail cipher]

[brave kettle]

so i can blame solon

[frigid oyster]

the problem with previous gph is that no new players would guess it was meta centric and thought it was a general help channel just by name alone

[sturdy bough]

my guy if you're here to dunk you may return to your #📨・meta-help cave

[sturdy bough]

yea saw that happen a lot

then naturally people argued that it's called gameplay help not meta help

[fierce shore]

problem is all of them still going to meta help

[frigid oyster]

but now theres a clear distinction

[sturdy bough]

honestly it's on them for that, let them get filtered

[fierce shore]

i think rename this channel to gameplay help

because people think its like tech type help channel

[frigid oyster]

nah general help is fine imo

[worldly zealot]

wuduhell happened

[sturdy bough]

oh man that'd be confusing

[frigid oyster]

we have tech support channel remember

[sturdy bough]

you'll have the meta peeps who didn't see the change come in here

[viscid pollen]

[worldly zealot]

people that didn't come to this channel during the forum changes probably will stay in meta-help

gph just got renamed

[fierce shore]

idk it was just a thought

[worldly zealot]

ultimately same channel

only general help is actually new

[fierce shore]

lol rename it to dmc help and watch it get flooded

[sturdy bough]

says meta now tho so they can't cry about getting meta advice they don't like

[fierce shore]

true

[stable sable]

i just come in to call abyss rightless

[wary widget]

Later they gonna start saying we biased for separating the casual and meta conversation

[sturdy bough]

they already complained about that earlier

[frigid oyster]

???????

[sturdy bough]

when it was a forum split

[twilit hare]

should i consider nanami as my main lightning dps now, or should i stick with cw as my main dps still?

[fierce shore]

@sturdy bough can i call this harresment and a violation of rules? he been doing that for a good amount of time

[sturdy bough]

nanaknight does more damage so it's alright to focus on gearing nanaknight if you want to

[sturdy bough]

could

if I see a repeat then yea

[fierce shore]

this is like 3rd time today already in this chat he said that

[sturdy bough]

oh da hekk didn't notice cause everyone was ignoring

just gonna snag that user id brb

[twilit hare]

im saving up for vera rn, so its like my budget build on nanami for now. and im thinking if my build on nanami rn is enough to be my main dps, or stick with cw as the main dps for a while

[sturdy bough]

personally running a cottie build on Nanaknight so could work out

if you don't have resources, I'd say to wait b4 making nanaknight more damage oriented

[proud hedge]

CW doesnt do enough to warrant even a swap below SSS, nanaknight plays as main DPS. Due to this you can use 2 Heisen instead of Einsteina for the damage boost

[fringe elbow]

That Nanaknight still do nearly double damage than CW

[fringe elbow]

No you have to swap if you don't have R1 sig Nanaknight

You'll run out of orbs

[proud hedge]

ohhhh right

[fringe elbow]

Selena ?

[vast robin]

soon itll be in my hands

[sturdy bough]

Selena skippers gonna suffer for a bit

[magic jolt]

This skin is so

[vast robin]

real i love it sm

[wet bluff]

Nah the wedding coating will cure the suffering

[stable sable]

[sturdy bough]

if they have pyroath

[wet bluff]

Select from basic

[vast robin]

why does he have a rat tail tho

[sturdy bough]

why not

[stable sable]

cuz bro is a chad and looks good on him

[vast robin]

fair he might be the only male that looks decent with a rat tail

chat is it worth building uniframes

sad

[sturdy bough]

they got mechanics that only work in certain event modes and don't really have any advantages over A ranks unfortunately

[vast robin]

my husband will remain unbuilt

[fringe elbow]

A bit is understatement

[sturdy bough]

tru

[fringe elbow]

Literally have to either run Balter or Vergil

[sturdy bough]

about 3-4 weeks? maybe more?

[fringe elbow]

Both of them has nearly no DPS

[fringe elbow]

What if they are skipping Selena as in ACTUALLY skip

[sturdy bough]

[fringe elbow]

A lot of players are going for that actually

Cuz "Vergil is Physical"

[stable sable]

ngl tho, this dude carried me at the start until i got real units

[sturdy bough]

still gonna be suffering regardless

[vast robin]

crazy how this game has improved so much when it comes to character designs

[fast star]

What is 444w in wz?

[vast robin]

insane
tbh i already got real units before even getting him for free lmao

i already had ishmael with her signature weapon, crimson weave with her signature i think, startrail with her signature
a bit after getting camu i got solacetune with her signature

[frigid oyster]

444? all of the units being played is sss+

[ebon stone]

w is 10k so 4.4m

[frigid oyster]

or wait you have w on the end

yeah sorry its 4.4m score then

[proud jay]

IIRC w is used in china to desribe numbers, like we do with k
w is 10k. and the rest is just score

[frigid oyster]

im blind

[wary widget]

W short for wan
It’s written as 万 in Thai
And yes it’s 10k

[fierce shore]

nice

[fast star]

Thanks

[wary widget]

Np
I’m here to help out with casuals

[stable sable]

oh then there is basically no place for bro xD

[frigid oyster]

i await the day where powercreep is so damn overtuned we seeing 6969w scores

[lime oriole]

no way gph split in half?!?!

[frigid oyster]

yeah

[vast robin]

sadly

like i really really like him but i have no reason to even use him

[wary widget]

We’re close tbh sitting at 5000w

[frigid oyster]

just outside meta needed stuff is fine

[frigid oyster]

wtf

[stable sable]

u can use him in guild battles tho

[wary widget]

Total score from three zone ofc

[frigid oyster]

lmao. i was refering to single zone scores

but still wtf

[stable sable]

ru done collecting screenshots lil bro?

[sturdy bough]

stop harassing them

[stable sable]

are you rightless too?

[sturdy bough]

[magic jolt]

Omg migu

[sturdy bough]

it's migu hatsune

[hollow ginkgo]

Gameplay help is gone?!??!

[sturdy bough]

it's split now

[hollow ginkgo]

Fly high 🥀 you will be missed

[sturdy bough]

original gph got renamed to #📨・meta-help

while this channel's new

[rustic knoll]

is this good?

[silk girder]

hypertune them

[devout mantle]

and harmo guin

[ivory ermine]

As a support set yes

[urban pendant]

Heellooo, is there a way that i can report some bugs in the game?

[ivory ermine]

For a dark dps set since lilith can do more damage than lamia that is the latest S rank dark attacker in the game, she uses different set

[silk girder]

use the bug report channel here

[sturdy bough]

#👾・bug-report make a thread and follow the format

[fierce shore]

Look J-taro, I don’t really care what your deal is or why you act like that — that’s on you. I only brought it up to @sturdy bough to see if anything would actually be done. If not, I’d just block you like others before you and be done with it. No big drama. But don’t go throwing attitude at the mod too — keep it between you and me

[sturdy bough]

just ignore it

if they act up again it's gonna turn into a mute

[fierce shore]

yeah i am just gonna block him by end of today

[sturdy bough]

aye

[fierce shore]

nice

[urban pendant]

Thank you. Is the chrono Echoes buggy for you?

[sturdy bough]

I don't gave chrono so haven't noticed

[sturdy bough]

btw if you can send some screenshots or recordings in #👾・bug-report , it'll help them figure out the problem

[urban pendant]

Alright, thank you!

[urban pendant]

Thank you aswell!

[manic tulip]

Will DMC characters be usable at SS with 6* weapons ?

[idle smelt]

Guys im new should i choose nanami or luna void? My pity on ismael is 57

[proud jay]

i remember hearing that the CUB is actually more important than the weapon, but I’ve never fact-checked it
Refer to #📨・meta-help with that

[silk girder]

why not?

[proud jay]

Standard banner? Nanami Startrail is the optimal pick

[idle smelt]

But should i go for ismael? Or keep my piry

[proud jay]

defo go ish aswell

[vernal violet]

iirc DMC characters can still use their skills even with 0 orbs, but heavily reduced dmg I think?

[proud jay]

but werent entire moves locked behind the cub? That were needed for rot?

[lavish silo]

And no energy

[vernal violet]

oh yeah no energy too

[proud jay]

ooo

[lavish silo]

Also, if you're in sdt, you cannot generate orbs iirc

[cerulean anvil]

Sparda's Virgin

Skill - Signature/Ultimate (Lv. 18)

Sin Devil Trigger - Sin Devil Trigger
Trigger: Not in Sin Devil Trigger + 300 Sin Devil Trigger Gauge + Tap Signature

Vergil embraces his demonic bloodline and undergoes Sin Devil Trigger transformation, generating a magic explosion that deals 1080.0% Ultima Slash DMG. Triggers Time Lag Calculation while this skill is cast. In Sin Devil Trigger, Vergil's strength, speed, and special abilities are significantly enhanced, he gains Super Armor, and all skills deal greater damage. In exchange, Vergil cannot recover Magic Orbs or Signature Energy through Basic Attacks during Sin Devil Trigger.

• In Sin Devil Trigger, Vergil consumes 20 Sin Devil Trigger Gauge per second. Sin Devil Trigger Gauge cannot be restored, and Vergil will automatically exit Sin Devil Trigger state when the gauge reaches 0.
• Casting this skill does not interrupt Basic Attack.

1/2

[idle smelt]

Who will i pair with nanami? Ismael good for her?

[crisp sapphire]

guys which set is best for lilith and is she a good dps?

[vernal violet]

prolly so that players wouldn't just stay in SDT indefinitely

would've been very cheesy

[proud jay]

you should have No.21 Feral for free through an event. thats optimal
ishmael also good cause she can be the support in any team, thats her specialty. but feral better overall

[fierce shore]

lilith is the meta dark amp and yes she is a good dps for now and her set is 4x Barcelo 2x Cottie, barcelo goes top and cottie goes bottom

[proud jay]

4x Barcelo, 2x Cottie for the DPS set
if youre playing her as a support (in the nihil team for Exampel), 4x Da Vinci, 2x Guinevere

[fierce shore]

nanami startrail is a lighting tank pair her with free crimson weave and feral lighting amp

[proud jay]

lilith has the best dark DPS in the game rn

[idle smelt]

So my main damage from nanami right?

[fierce shore]

yes nanami startrail is the main dps for lighting team

[proud jay]

nanami might be a tank, but she hits like a WMD

[idle smelt]

Alr thanks guys

[crisp sapphire]

oh thanks guys

btw is there anychar that allow healing other when not on the field?

like lilith ulti 2nd phrase

[fierce shore]

you can use teddy for support btw lilith heals her self and also provides healing when off field as qte support

[proud jay]

all characters of the Amplifier role can provide off-field healing through their QTE

[lavish silo]

Look inhttps://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/867995160854806588

Windbells image

[vernal violet]

omg it's a sign

[crisp sapphire]

hmm

what QTE is

[proud jay]

when you do a colored three ping (red for example), then the character you put in the red slot in your team will start glowing. if you click on their button while its glowing, that character will use their QTE-Skill and help out

[crisp sapphire]

ohh

[proud jay]

so, put someone in the red slot
go into a fight, while playing as anyone that isnt red
do a red three-ping
qte becomes available

[fringe elbow]

Just a reminder
DMC fans must peak of combat themselves

[earnest jewel]

update when?

[lapis acorn]

is solitary longings ever gonna get a rerun? (lamia skin)

[sonic field]

Is there an updated BP list for the next consolidated patch for what new shards (if any) can be vouchered? Don't see one in the pins

[crisp sapphire]

i just spamming Q and E when the circle around these character apear lol

ty

[proud jay]

idk what you mean by BP list, but no new characters will be added to voucher shop next patch.
alisa gets leaped, but she was already there sincce shes a dorm unit

[lapis acorn]

is solitary longings ever gonna get a rerun? (lamia skin)

[ancient spruce]

wait they revamped stuff again ?

or gph is back ?

[fierce shore]

i think lamia skin is getting re run next patch or on dmc collab patch not sure

[lapis acorn]

Oh thats great

[magic jolt]

This channel split is kinda silly ngl

[fierce shore]

yeah lamia, vera garnet dragon thing, liv empy fairy, neo dynamite i think are the ones getting re run

[small lodge]

for darwin 2pc, does it stack 3x on a 3 ping or does it count as 1?

[fierce shore]

ask that question on #📨・meta-help

[lapis acorn]

Does the themed event construct pity stay when a new upd arrives?

[proud jay]

pity stays, yes

[lapis acorn]

so do i pull for ishmael or the one thats coming?

[vernal violet]

it counts per orb

so 3 Ping would stack it up 3 times in one go

[small lodge]

oooooh. thanks

[proud jay]

ishma for sure

[feral hearth]

Ishmael

[lapis acorn]

aight bet

[proud jay]

extrely valuable unit

[feral hearth]

She fills one empty amplifier or tank slot on Ur teams

[feral hearth]

Even Liv is alr dead metawise thx to ishmael

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/emu-otori-emu-otori-celebrate-gif-16855907592873369036

[lapis acorn]

im building lamia rn and for her team i got daemonissa who shall be the third character?

[proud jay]

ishmael lol

[feral hearth]

Ishmael kekw

[hazy galleon]

Well technically there is one benefit to alissa getting leaped, you can use the raw shard pickers from the BP on her now.

[lapis acorn]

ishmael daemonissa and lamia?

[hazy galleon]

I took that into account when planning my vouchers for this coming patch

[proud jay]

since youre putting ish in a support role, be careful what build you put on her

[lapis acorn]

what build must i put on her?

[proud jay]

4x Da Vinci and 2x Einsteina

[gentle hawk]

just dont put eins

[magic jolt]

What about Karen

[feral hearth]

If Ur lazy to swap or no matz

[proud jay]

oh no eins?

was that the one that was broken, i forget

[south dragon]

ish can't benefit from eins

[proud jay]

noted thank you

[hazy galleon]

The fact karen outlived lamia is still hilarious

[feral hearth]

Her default build, sothoth x 4 n cottie x 2 can work

[proud jay]

riiight only her own element, touche

[amber bridge]

what team should i use for lucia lotus? i like her very much

[south dragon]

uhhh

[urban island]

The power of idol

[lapis acorn]

so 2x cottie and 4xsothoth?

[south dragon]

Yes

[feral hearth]

If u no matz

[hazy galleon]

Best late coating rerun invest of my account.

[feral hearth]

Covers more content

[lapis acorn]

matz?

[south dragon]

it becomes 4x cottie 4sothoth after harmonization

[hazy galleon]

If you swipe you should get a bunch of free hannas and condelina memories

[feral hearth]

Materials to build two different builds

[lapis acorn]

oh alr

[hazy galleon]

Lotus is good with those unironically.

Like the one unit that benefits from condelina.

[proud jay]

interesting, never seen someone like lotus before.
anyways, she mainly does physical damage, so any Physical tanks or supports work. optimal picks would be alisa echo among others

[viral axle]

Does anyone know if there are any trusted third party sites that I can use to recharge for PGR, I’m thinking of spending a bit and I want the best deal. Or is that just not a thing?

I’ve been F2P but I do want to spend a little to support the game c:

[dapper onyx]

4 years f2p going strong here

[lapis acorn]

whats this

[dapper onyx]

Tho might break it for Vera...

[viral axle]

It’s for Selena LOL

[gentle hawk]

not enough resources

[viral axle]

I have 50k rn but I need more for Selena she needs to be maxed

[dapper onyx]

GG going full house I see

[proud jay]

codashop is an official partner of kuro

[lapis acorn]

which resource tho?

[elfin steeple]

U shouldn't use Lucia lotus she is useless

[viral axle]

Ok that’s good to know

[proud jay]

this aint the meta channel

[gentle hawk]

the purple memories one

[lapis acorn]

purple memories?

[proud jay]

memory enhancers
XP

[gentle hawk]

yeah that, forgot the name

[viral axle]

I’m thinking of trying to cope with Liv empyrea for as long as I can 😂

[lapis acorn]

oh those things how do i get more of em

[viral axle]

Get Vera off the standard pulls but with Bianca coming idk anymore LOL

[amber bridge]

oh? really? sry, i just downloaded the game today so i don't know much
what other units can i use then? as long as it is lucia
does lucia dawn work?

[gentle hawk]

shop at simulated battlefied

[fervent goblet]

good day my people

[magic jolt]

Lucia Lotus is not useless

[proud jay]

Battle > Resources > Simulated Battlefield
can buy kinda every resource in the game there

[fervent goblet]

yes she is strong

[south dragon]

Lucia Pyroath is REALLY good

[lapis acorn]

alr

[elfin steeple]

Lucia dawn is also useless, get Lucia pyroath, she is the newest Lucia and she is very strong

[magic jolt]

Lucia Dawn is also not useless

[lavish silo]

Why you still trolling co

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

god that took me a minute

[left tusk]

Guys do i should get ishmael or wait for new characters ?

[magic jolt]

Get Ishmael

[viral axle]

For meta/endgame A ranks don’t clear anywhere as well as S ranks mainly cuz all new/newer S ranks have time stop

[lapis acorn]

what resonance do i focus on for ishm (for the lamia team)

[proud jay]

on each of the memories bottom slot, go Class Skill
can go atk top slot, but thats less important

[magic jolt]

See what's the point in the split if people are going to talk meta here instead of #📨・meta-help ?

[lapis acorn]

class skill?

[proud jay]

like, for the memory resonance

[lapis acorn]

yeah for that but like class skill (im new 😭 )

[signal anvil]

if I don't select a character, I'll still be able to select one after getting an S-rank right? at 58/60 and 15770 blue tix

[lapis acorn]

merciful confessions?

[proud jay]

excuse me what?
can you like send a screenshot

[magic jolt]

The resonance is called class skill level

[lapis acorn]

oh

[proud jay]

yea it says Signature Move there. optimally you wanna keep going till it says Class Skill

[magic jolt]

That's signature move level

[lapis acorn]

and not a single class skill

[dusky fiber]

Is pyroath signature dependant like the other characters?

Also is it better if i select pyroath now then solacetune for the next patch selector
Or
Select solace now and shukra for the next patch selector

[vernal violet]

yes

for selector details, read my name

so no Solacetune

[dusky fiber]

Ok i'll pull solace then
thanks

[fierce shore]

wait i went to check to make sure and i am not sure about lamia but in patch Lamento Di Phantasmal these coating will rerun so maybe lamia ones rerun's

[elfin steeple]

Just because it's not #📨・meta-help doesn't mean u should tell people to pull lamia on arrival right now

[magic jolt]

Why? Because you say so?

[fierce shore]

this is not mis info channel btw so i would agree with the certain someone i blocked that you should not suggest people to pull lamia

[magic jolt]

If you want to give meta advice you go to #📨・meta-help

[fierce shore]

give mis info at #💬・pgr-general

[magic jolt]

it's not misinfo

this is why I don't agree with the split to begin with, all the metaslaves are still going to post metaslaving on both channels

[fierce shore]

it is mis info lamia got crept already and not just that you telling them to get on arrival that has 70% chance

[magic jolt]

Those are meta reasons, feel free to talk about them on #📨・meta-help

[red wing]

advising to pull a unit is not helping in any way shape or form

[magic jolt]

This is where you make exceptions

The best decisions for what they want

[red wing]

so pulling on arrival is still not advisable

[magic jolt]

No I don't make exceptions, you got a dedicated metaslaving channel, feel free to take yourself over there

[vernal violet]

it's mostly because Arrival is just a scam

[fierce shore]

this channel is made for those who dont exactly want to play meta want to play what character they want but need help in game to improve with what they want not get fked instead

[magic jolt]

OK and if they want Lamia I will tell them to pull Lamia

[fierce shore]

and you got #💬・pgr-general to give misfo get out of here

[magic jolt]

Or to pick Lamia from the selector

[vernal violet]

If anyone wants to pull Lamia rn, the best way atm is what my name reads

[magic jolt]

For example if you don't like Nanami Startrail, here if you want to ask, we'll tell you the second priority like Pyroath

[magic jolt]

It's only misinfo from the perspective of a metaslave so please move to #📨・meta-help

[vernal violet]

say my name.

[magic jolt]

If they want lamia that's up to them

[vernal violet]

you can just get Lamia from this specific selector for example

heck even the Thunderbolt Manual

[magic jolt]

We'll tell them the best way to get her, which is his name

[fierce shore]

yeah true but dont spam them with get lamia and specially from arrival banner like what da fk this is not mis info get bricked account channel

[magic jolt]

The selector next patch

[fierce shore]

yeah

[magic jolt]

I wouldn't pull on arrival either but if a new player asks if they should pull her from the starter selector I'd say yes

I mean I do pull on arrival but I wouldn't recommend it

[magic jolt]

"Brick" is also a meta thing so please feel free to move to #📨・meta-help, you will be happier there

[rich orchid]

you have both the starter and the startrail banner

for anyone pre-ishmael

arrival should be a dead last resort efficiency wise

[fierce shore]

it should not be a option at all

[magic jolt]

It's not just meta, it's more comfortable overall for your account if you just wait for the selector next patch over arrival

There is a theoretical scenario where you would pull Lamia from arrival which is if you want Lamia, already used the Thunder selector, and want someone else from next patch selector, but that probably doesn't apply to anyone

[vernal violet]

that's where actually asking about it comes into play

[fierce shore]

and people thought i was bad for liking crimson weave this guy is a lost cause

[rich orchid]

tbf you're not much better

[magic jolt]

Yeah actually I would recommend people play Crimson Weave if they like her

[fierce shore]

and did you ever heard from me suggestion to pull cw from arrival banner you dumb guy

[magic jolt]

Omg aetherlao

[fierce shore]

and honestly i never recommended any one to get crimson weave

[vernal violet]

well she's free so

[fierce shore]

she is free this patch before i never did

[vernal violet]

permanently free at that

[south dragon]

If you want to pull on Lamia, just pull on Lamia, what's the point of the question then?

[magic jolt]

If I see someone asking if they can play Vera Garnet Vera Rozen and Vera Geiravor in the same team because they like Vera I will say yes

[fierce shore]

i have been playing for 1 year now not even once i recommended her or pushed people to get her

[magic jolt]

Just say they won't work but you can still play them

They will work

Atleast tell them what it does

[fierce shore]

yeah that is the purpose of this channel tell them the character they like has been crept but if they still wish to get it than that is fine

suggest them the best way to get it and that is that

[south dragon]

they won't work together, they're not even the same element

[magic jolt]

They'll have no synergy but that's on them to decide what they want, what our job is to tell them what said thing even does

[vernal violet]

yeah just basic needs

[grizzled sequoia]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[magic jolt]

They have the best synergy: they're all Vera

You're giving them the fish without telling them how to catch it or how to even cook it

You've given them an unstable foundation to build a house on and didn't tell them it was fragile

Have you considered that your metaslave mentality comes with a set of assumptions that are so deeply rooted in your mind that you don't even realize other people might not care about them?

I'M NOT FORCING THEM TO PLAY META I'M JUST TELLING THEM WHAT IT DOES

"Unstable foundation" according to you

If I really liked Vera playing three Veras is the most stable foundation my account can have

[vernal violet]

is there a point where we have to give at least a bit of advice, like the pulling on Arrival thing

[magic jolt]

Then that's up to you

[south dragon]

THOSE ARE BASICS OF TEAM BUILDING LOTTE

[magic jolt]

well yeah I don't recommend pulling on arrival unless you really have to

[vernal violet]

feels important to clear up

[magic jolt]

Good, we agree that people can have different perspectives. Let's move on to step two. Can we agree that your perspective is not inherently more valuable than anyone else's?

[small lodge]

idk if pgr is like its competition game (hi3) where if you go off-meta in endgame, you've messed up hard

[magic jolt]

Don't blindly lead them nowhere

[small lodge]

that's what happened to me way in the past

[magic jolt]

TELL THEM WHERE THEY'RE GOING ATLEAST

[vernal violet]

cuz if we followed the culture of this chat to a T, we could just say pull Lamia on Arrival rn since she's in there rn without saying how much of a scam that banner is

[magic jolt]

IF THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT FINE, ATLEAST YOU'VE TOLD YHEM

idk I don't see why I should give meta special treatment over anything else

[vernal violet]

basic advice and meta advice tend to overlap now that I think about it

[south dragon]

THIS IS NOT EVEN META

[magic jolt]

It's not just meta I want them to know what putting three veras in a team does which is their buffs won't apply to eachother

[south dragon]

What the actual fck...

[magic jolt]

I don't tell people if their choices are good or bad from the perspective of a healer-only account or a solo-only account, I don't see why I should tell them if they're good or bad from a metaslaving perspective, you already have a channel for that #📨・meta-help

[fathom sand]

Hi
Can i use dark luna with lilith? I was told that dark luna is old and she's out of meta....

[fringe elbow]

What's the topic guys

[magic jolt]

Yes you can, I use her

[south dragon]

Lotte

[magic jolt]

Yws

[fathom sand]

What memories do i give her?

[magic jolt]

Wait stelle why are you here wtf

[magic jolt]

The really useless split between #📨・general-help and #📨・meta-help. It's useless because #📨・general-help is just #📨・meta-help-2

[fringe elbow]

Yes you can but the damage gap too high to make you rethink about using her
Better off Lilith + Wanshi + Luna Oblivion

[south dragon]

Yes, she is old

And yes she is out of the meta

[fringe elbow]

What's the argument about
Just tell me that

[vernal violet]

I think you already know but it's 4 Barcelo 2 Cottie for her DPS build

[magic jolt]

It's not a metaslaving perspective it's just a basic how-the-game-works perspective

[magic jolt]

yeah from a meta perspective

[fringe elbow]

What's the argument about

[magic jolt]

Like just tell them man it's genuinely not that hard

Have you considered that maybe I don't give af about making a team that can maximize the effectiveness of all buffs and debuffs?

YES.

Good!

I just want them to know that

[fringe elbow]

Y'all gonna really ignore what I asked for?

Just tell me

[vernal violet]

how is knowing what to do to get something as comfortable as possible not a "basic" need tho?

[south dragon]

LOTTE THIS IS BASIC TEAM BUILDING KNOWLEDGE

[small lodge]

what i understand so far on team building is just one element/effect consisting of attacker/vanguard, tank, and amp/healer

[magic jolt]

I said if someone wants to play three Veras in one team they should

[fringe elbow]

what the damn argument is about

[small lodge]

that's as basic as it is

[south dragon]

Knowing that each team should have attacker + tank + amp is not meta, it's basic fcking knowledge

[small lodge]

char preferences go next, as far as i observe

[magic jolt]

Because your definition of "comfortable" is metaslaving, what if my definition of "comfortable" is playing Vera?

[magic jolt]

Yes they should if they want to but what I'm also going to tell them is that the team won't synergize with eachother, their final decision is up to them

[vernal violet]

The problem with advising, cuz it seems like basic advice and meta advice have a lot of overlap from what I can tell

[magic jolt]

Sure

[fathom sand]

Actually restarted person lmao

[magic jolt]

"Yes, play those three veras together if you want, just know that their buffs don't apply to each other." I'm not forcing anything, I'm simply giving them ACTUAL HELPFUL KNOWLEDGE

[magic jolt]

They only seem to have a lot of overlap because you prioritize meta, from my perspective they have very little overlap

[fringe elbow]

Yea but that's not basic team building which falls in general questions
Remember, this chat is called #📨・general-help

This channel is for giving "proper advice" which is very different from "meta advice"
Meta is more in-depth advice. Here we glance over the basic concepts of the game like team building and who can make the account better and what to build

[magic jolt]

It's just that I don't see why you just tell them blindly

[small lodge]

all these "wack" teams would actually work better than they would on paper if the swap cooldown is divided by 10 or more

[vernal violet]

is trying to follow basic team compositions "meta-slaving" to you?

[fringe elbow]

If you like to use 3 Veras in team it's fine

[small lodge]

but that would be OP

[fringe elbow]

Just don't argue about that

[vernal violet]

cuz the game itself already teaches you that

[magic jolt]

That's useless, we should go back to having a single help channel

[magic jolt]

Yes

[vernal violet]

wow...

[loud fern]

this type of dumb argument is why help is divided

[magic jolt]

Yes I'm telling them the meta, but that doesn't automatically make it bad. I'm just giving them simple information

[grizzled sequoia]

this morning i woke up, this tactic is actually meta, because optimally you would want to wake up early in the morning to start your day.

i then continue my breathing. this is another meta tactic most people wont tell you, but you shouldnt stop breathing

[fringe elbow]

@magic jolt ok now you can stop too cuz it's not gonna go anywhere
Y'all in #📨・general-help and remember what the #1 rule I said was? "We give you the options here. if you don't like it, do as you wish"

[magic jolt]

In theory! But in practice that's not the case, as you can see from the fact we're even having the argument.

#📨・general-help is just #📨・meta-help-2

[magic jolt]

Yes that's what I'm trying to express here but what he wants to do is blindly give them one decision

[vernal violet]

so following what the game teaches you is "meta-slaving"

This is amazing!

[steep quail]

Am I tripping or did the help channel get changed

[magic jolt]

yeah we have two now

[fringe elbow]

Don't argue about meta here
Just give them the options, if they accept it it's fine, if they don't just leave them be. They'll come back after they realise the mistake

[magic jolt]

"mistake"

[grizzled sequoia]

is it a meta thing for you to point out everything and complain about it

[fringe elbow]

Exactly

The term "meta" really is vague af for people who don't really know the meta

[steep quail]

Ah I see. Anyway does weapon harmony only go to level 1?

[vernal violet]

yep

[magic jolt]

Nice try but I have every meta team

[loud fern]

dude they just giving basic game knowledge that the whole thing is built upon you either ignore it or follow it no need to argue about it

[vernal violet]

the other 2 lvls are unfinished stuff from the beta

[unique egret]

so who the dumdum that spreading misinfo here

[fringe elbow]

Idk
According to some it is "meta slaving" if you give proper advice I think.

[vernal violet]

and it seems like there's no plan to develop it

[fringe elbow]

I mean you are a spender so you SHOULD have it

[small lodge]

celica's ass school taught me basic of the basics of the game and this. not sure when meta comes into discussion honestly besides... what, builds?

[fringe elbow]

And I'm not talking about you

I'm talking about the general public

[magic jolt]

What's the definition of "proper advice"? 🤔

Telling them what it does

[junior onyx]

lol what a joke, so giving correct info is meta slaving now

[fringe elbow]

Enough

[magic jolt]

Can we go back to one channel?

[fringe elbow]

Chat cooldown increased and till increase more if you guys don't stop

[steep quail]

Hmm, alr thanks. I hope they increase the clash rewards if they do develop it at one point

[unique egret]

smh filthy malder tryna infect us casuals

[vernal violet]

yeah exactly man, team compositions are considered a basic need that you can choose to deviate from in my eyes

[tall sentinel]

only level 1, other levels are not implemented. forsaken content from beta

[fathom sand]

Something which doesn't come out of your mouth

[magic jolt]

Only following the most optimal team compositions is indeed metaslaving

[grizzled sequoia]

god i love this, its like a zoo

[vernal violet]

I never mentioned that it needed to be optimal LMAO

I'm just saying it's basic knowledge to usually have an Attacker, a Tank and a Healer in the team comp

[dusk crown]

This chat so cancer I am suffocating reading this

[south dragon]

This is worse

[magic jolt]

Yes that is the most optimal team composition

[vernal violet]

which is basic knowledge...

[bitter night]

one day they give us harmony level 2 that just gives the whole team free da vinci so the bar for qte botting someone gets a litttlllllle bit higher

[junior onyx]

wow

[tawny perch]

Can I ask team related advice here or go to #📨・meta-help ?

[grizzled sequoia]

so far im loving it, we take the toxicity away from the actual gph and into a trashbin

[fringe elbow]

• hello can I use 3 Veras in one team?
• normally you can't cuz the game doesn't work like that.

Ending 1

• Oh ok. How the team comps work here?
• explains
• nice
• yep, good luck

Ending 2

• Oh ok. How the team comps work here?
• explains
• But I don't want that! I wanna play for fun not for pulling everyone!
• ok, good luck!

[magic jolt]

It depends on how deep you wanna take it

[fringe elbow]

I just want y'all to be like these 2 examples here

Is it that hard

[vernal violet]

depends on what you wanna do with the team

[loud fern]

umm no it isnt, optimal is having the best units available for the team like wtf is this

[magic jolt]

This is why I don't see the value in splitting the channels to begin with, we can have the exact same discussion in the former single channel

[dusk crown]

And without that you aren't going to get the best rewards in pgr lmao, simple knowledge. Idk what you're even trying to prove atp just go to #📨・general-help or to the suckers who will listen to you

[tawny perch]

Uh all I wanna ask if I dont have crimson sss who should i replace her in nanami startrail and feral team

[south dragon]

The side effect is my braincells fading away, but it was worth it

[fringe elbow]

Use Nanami Startrail, Lilith Daemonissa, Luna Oblivion
Specially if your Lilith is SS3 and above

[magic jolt]

Have you considered that not everyone cares about getting the best rewards?

[dusk crown]

Nanami (your most invested amp) and luna will be your lightning team

[bitter night]

I don't understand... they didn't call them an idiot or spam them with brick emojis.... Surely that's not possible!!!!

[tawny perch]

My lilith is ss 🥀

[fringe elbow]

Oh ok let me stop you here for a second
"Best rewards" go to #📨・meta-help

[small lodge]

hmmm... yata/noctis if you don't mind a ranks. idk otherwise

[grizzled sequoia]

just treat it as an empty void

[fringe elbow]

"optimal situations" go to #📨・general-help

[dusk crown]

Oh wow

[tawny perch]

Sorry for the tomato react it was an accident 😭

My most invested Amp is lilith

[dusk crown]

Yeah so Lilith+ nana + luna

[magic jolt]

I think this just causes needless confusion, like this person who's asking where they should go. And in practice the channels are basically the same since they're both mainly populated by the same people.

[vernal violet]

hmmm should we consider the way we get BC rewards as the "line" we need to distinguish between "basic" advice and "meta" advice?

[tawny perch]

So I'd just go with what vera Ai suggested

Tyysm to both ❣️
whys their a 24sec cooldown

[south dragon]

Yes

[cobalt hornet]

[fringe elbow]

We are the malders who go for everything that's why our den is #📨・meta-help , The Castle of Elites

Others don't mald, just want either optimal gameplay or fun! They belong to #📨・general-help , The Tavern of The Adventurers

[bitter night]

Something needed to be done because gameplay help 100% had a toxicity problem (and no I am not biased my account is extremely meta invested, people just didn't know how to chill and leave people alone without snide comments)

[south dragon]

The gph was separated for less than 1 day and this type of stuff is already happening, I'm loving this

[vernal violet]

like say, someone asked for general advice in WZ (which mostly has participation-based rewards)

[fringe elbow]

Moral of the story - PGRO never learns

[dusk crown]

So this channel is for the ones who still want to use their tsubricki skin and that too 'optimally'
Ok.

[cobalt hornet]

It will always stay the same

[grizzled sequoia]

guys i dont want to drink water, i havent drank for a few hours, should i go to #📨・meta-help for the optimal water drinking or can i just drink coke

[dusk crown]

You divided gph just to cope with cw duh

[bitter night]

if you want to talk down to people for buying a skin you've gotta just not post on this entire server man there is no ok place for that

[south dragon]

Drink beer

[vernal violet]

bro I am losing it LMAOOOO

[fringe elbow]

Not that too optimally
But "if they wanna have fun even after you said that pulling Tsubaki is gonna be bad for the account. Let them be cuz they won't listen." We just give the general information here, not the hardcore stuff

General info like builds, rots and helping newbies

[magic jolt]

The help channels were split was because of gameplay-help's toxicity towards newbies who were asking simple questions, in here they should be able to ask judgmental free. But also just because it's more casual doesn't mean you should just blindly lead them without any advice, I'm not trying to be toxic or forcing them to metaslave by telling them some useful information, in the end I just want to atleast give them the basic information that will help every person, meta oriented or casual gameplay

[fringe elbow]

Like a receptionist in a hospital

[junior onyx]

so let me get this straight, it is not allowed in this channel for anyone to ever suggest a single correct thing about gameplay correct?

[unique parrot]

Guys what happened

[dusk crown]

What word did you find offensive to say that I talked down to tsubricki users, don't expect me to call it tsubaki tho

[south dragon]

S T U F F

[unique egret]

can i use this as pasta
holy fk 30s cd

[magic jolt]

Whatever

[unique parrot]

Oh god i shouldn't of scrolled up the horror.

[tawny perch]

Does the upcoming characters
Vera and selena need their 6 star weapon?

[magic jolt]

Preferably yes

[south dragon]

Is Lotte out of the channel already?

[small lodge]

ok, i just read luna oblivion and her class. what's its difference with attackers?

[junior onyx]

absolutely, just drink coke here bro, do w/e you want
we are very welcoming and would never suggest such a filthy meta concept like drinking healthily

[magic jolt]

Attackers don't convert buffs

This actually started because someone told someone else not to use Lucia Lotus or Lucia Dawn and I said they can if they want to, and then that same person started talking about Lamia arrival banner out of nowhere and accusing me of recommending people to pull on it

[bitter night]

basically she's an attacker that can be buffed by any element

[tawny perch]

Is it essential or can they survive on 5 star weapon, love and a bit of cope

[grizzled sequoia]

she works like an attacker, but has a special passive that allows other types of elements buffs and debuffs (except physical) to be "omni" typing

[bitter night]

oh right yeah importantly NOT phys

[magic jolt]

Well everybody can survive 5* weapon with cope, but signature weapon is still really helpful

[vernal violet]

basic advice is like giving a man a fishing rod, telling them what it does and where to use it
meta advice is doing the same thing, except now you tell them where they could usually get the most catches and holding their hand (pause 😳) and helping them reel the fishes in as it happens

[small lodge]

so annihilators are basically omni except phys and observers are omni-role?

[magic jolt]

She converts all elemental buffs and debuffs to all elements. So Shakespeare debuffs all elements rather than just fire and Ayla Kaleido's ice buff buffs all elements instead.

[fringe elbow]

ok guys think of these two channels like this!

• #📨・general-help is like the Physiatrist who, when you have flu, some meds after your checkup to get you all covered up and healthy. You might change the doctor cuz you don't like it or the way to follow the prescription.
• #📨・meta-help is like the Otolaryngologist, who, when you have Throat Cancer, checks up on you, gives meds, gets you Chemotherapy and all. All serious matters get handled by him.

[magic jolt]

Can you hold my hand while we fish?

[grizzled sequoia]

something... of that kind

[tawny perch]

Hmm, is it like ishmael situation?
I was told she needs her weapon for qol

[fringe elbow]

I'm using 70% of my brain juice to make examples for y'all
Try to understand what I'm trying to say

[tawny perch]

Can I ask smth?

[magic jolt]

Noteworthy to mention physical is not grouped with the rest of the elements

[fringe elbow]

Ye

[magic jolt]

Idk much about future units that aren't in global yet but selena seems pretty limited without her signature, vera too but not nearly as much as most units, if you have to skip one I'd say vera

[bitter night]

oh I think people understand I just think the toxic culture in here has bred for so long its just gonna take several weeks of consistent moderation to get the less mature people in line

[grizzled sequoia]

just call it the school nurse and the emergency room

[fringe elbow]

Yea better example

[fresh burrow]

new copy pasta

[south dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[fringe elbow]

#📨・general-help is the school nurse
#📨・meta-help is the ER

[tawny perch]

Why was the channel split in the first place

@vera.aipgr hmm ok maybe I can get some funds for their weaps since the weapon banner is permanent

[grizzled sequoia]

[fringe elbow]

Ask the meta slaves and the casuals (the brick kind not the casual but still knows what they doing kind)

[magic jolt]

did you split them ezra?

[vernal violet]

it's an attempt to quell the toxicity between meta advisors and bricked casuals

[fringe elbow]

Also DMC 5 Collab related stuff will be here

Cuz mostly it's non-meta

[tawny perch]

Hmm ic ic

[fringe elbow]

Not gonna crowd 1 channel

[fringe elbow]

Basically this will make the crowding of gph a bit low

[magic jolt]

I thought Dante and Vergil were both part of meta teams (Ignition and Ultima Slash)

[grizzled sequoia]

THANK YOU I LOVE YOU SM FOR THIS

[magic jolt]

General = Basic Multiplication/Algebra
Meta = Use your general knowledge and build upon that with calculus and other stuff idk why I used math an example I don't do math

[south dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/free-gif-13304638932589783966

[tawny perch]

Also can any1 explain pyroath's rotation like I'm 5 year old?
Ts is driving me insane, I feel like I'm building a robot

[vernal violet]

they are, but you usually have to look for this specific discussion with them for the most part

[feral hearth]

For wz?

[vernal violet]

you'd usually see some style tips instead, cuz it's DMC ofc

[tawny perch]

Yea

[feral hearth]

Fire or the hell that is plasma

[grizzled sequoia]

you need to go to #📨・meta-help for that

[fringe elbow]

But most people aren't pulling for meta no?

[vernal violet]

damn how do I explain this without just giving the best rotation

[magic jolt]

It actually depends on how invested she is

[fringe elbow]

That's why they will be in #📨・general-help unless it's a case of meta

[fringe elbow]

TLDR - ||even idk||

[magic jolt]

if low invest then yellow and spam basic attacks