📨・meta-help

[grim phoenix]

whats better, 4gui or 2 ein?

is 2 ein only worse if another teammate carries it

[keen sable]

that boss is so outdated

can just play ss hanying and deal with that no problem

[normal sierra]

that's not ult ppc, it's whel ppc

ohh, wait, you replied to the fushen vid lul

yea, das why I'm so disappointed in midlena, too slow for ult ppc

[keen sable]

[frank kindle]

yea, u need whel invest for 8/8/8 kill

[nova forum]

i absolutely don't understand pianis

[keen sable]

enjoy selena my guy, i keep my 15kbc

[frank kindle]

333 or go back to han kill

[nova forum]

ss0 or ss3 can have 6 white orbs, but sss0 only get 3?

[normal sierra]

hanying kills seems easier as well, but that's prolly cuz I'm used to those already

[keen sable]

hanying just is pretty fast

[slate gull]

why did you skip tho

[keen sable]

dont like her gameplay

[normal sierra]

but maybe I can save myself from that 9s insta excal kill on knight and just try that midlena kill there

[frank kindle]

what u gonna do on skych

[keen sable]

animations feel to long

got the same feeling playing selena i had with hyperlee back then

[nova forum]

Fck this I'll take care of ib later

[keen sable]

jsut regreted pulling for meta he never got above s3

so wont pull selena

[slate gull]

really? hyperreal rot is fast. his damage just sucks ass

[fading kestrel]

non-meta player in #📨・meta-help
smh get this guy out

[keen sable]

i just did not like his gameplay

[normal sierra]

no one liked his gameplay

[keen sable]

i rather keep the 15k bc instead of being annoyed having to play selena

[lean plinth]

how to do this

[slate gull]

well, you dont have to push your agenda in meta help anyway

[keen sable]

590k should be doable

[slate gull]

in gen help, it'a fine

[frank kindle]

do whole run of tundra

[keen sable]

what i just answered someone

[lean plinth]

i did and it didn't work so I'm confused

how much time does it take to do tundra

[frank kindle]

with bad setup? 7 minute for one run

[lean plinth]

wdym bad setup

[frank kindle]

there are few layouts in first stage where u can proxy skip first fight, and some layouts where u have to run it manually

[normal sierra]

you have 2 ways of doing it
the boring but faster click-fest with almost 0 battles
the little less boring way with actually doing battles, but this is longer
either way, it's the most boring roguelike they did so far

[frank kindle]

yea, why bother with 15min run with fighting when u can 7min run with just proxy battles

[keen sable]

i hope awakening tundra is the last one

[frank kindle]

put on some podcast in the background and u good to go for clicking simulator

[normal sierra]

what's the new ending choice with those new points btw? is it a new ending or something else?

[frank kindle]

not much of new ending but more like easier way to play proxy only

because u can spend red points for proxy battle + u have time reversal with which u can double points for each stage

[slate gull]

who ever thought of tundra shouldnt touch pgr anymore

[normal sierra]

not the buff we choose at the start
I mean literally, the ending where we choose from the 3 things, but now we have a 4th option that requires 50 of these new awaken points

[frank kindle]

i did that one, wasnt different i think

[normal sierra]

me too lazy to do more than 1 run per patch, so will only find out next patch

[slate gull]

i havent even done 1 tundra run this patch

i refuse. lmao

[frank kindle]

i was trying for best time

with one manual battle i got 7 minute run

[normal sierra]

usually I leave it for last day too, but wanted to get rid of these event missions now

[frank kindle]

then got tired of fishing for no manual fight layout

[feral pollen]

pilot my tundra when

[feral pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[slate gull]

is 30rc good

[frank kindle]

How many lvls

[slate gull]

max lvl

from 1

[frank kindle]

11h, man i could buy 600rc for that time usage bad math

[faint monolith]

What's Selena's other glacio set name again?

[slate gull]

klenova

[terse junco]

Does lilith need ss3?

[frank kindle]

if it was 80-110, i'd reconsider

[faint monolith]

Oh ye kle

[slate gull]

it's pretty much free

[frank kindle]

wait maybe i did count it wrong

oh ye, 2h

@slate gull 59 and we have a bargain

[slate gull]

nah bro, just trolling. i think im already at 60-ish. but i got so done with it i have no plan to do it ever.

[frank kindle]

30 for other half wouldnt be bad either

[grim phoenix]

?^

i dont know much about elemental damage bonus vs resistance / if one's better than the other

[stoic rapids]

ein for fat waves, guin for thin waves

[grim phoenix]

fat waves? LOL

ooh, timing-wise

i see what you mean now

[stoic rapids]

waves with higher hp

[slate gull]

4guin overall. but if you wanna push your scores, use 2eins 2guin on warzone with high fluc

[stoic rapids]

so it depends

[grim phoenix]

thanks o7

yeahh

[stoic rapids]

on the content ur facing at the time

[grim phoenix]

sweaty enough to consider it but not sweaty enough to change based on the content i think/jl

i think ill go with gui in the end

[stoic rapids]

change is free tho

[grim phoenix]

that's two more memories to hypertune though

er wait

can you swap harmony whenever?

[stoic rapids]

yes

[grim phoenix]

oh that's insane

good to know; first time using harmony, i've been saving for this update lol

[stoic rapids]

once you unlocked a harmo memo for a character u can swap between at will for free

unlock costs a one-time 1200 spinners per memo

[grim phoenix]

alright sweet

tysm again!!

[lean plinth]

@frank kindle ok i still don't understand how to clear it, once i clear the main battle it takes me to another place on the map

[frank kindle]

u have to do it like 4-5 times

[lean plinth]

if i click on end it ends the thing but doesn't say that I cleared it

[lean plinth]

oh god ok

[frank kindle]

untill u have score screen

that's whole run of tundra

[lean plinth]

ok

[grim phoenix]

how do i increase the level of the weapon harmony?

[slate gull]

send a mail go kuro to make it possible

just kidding. you cant

[grim phoenix]

oh, genuinely? it's just locked at level 1-?

[stoic rapids]

thats a leftover feature from their original plans for harmo that they forgot to remove xd

[grim phoenix]

oh that's funny

[stoic rapids]

maybe one day

[grim phoenix]

gotcha LMAO

level 3 harmo geiravor...

i guess i should go incan for my final?

[slate gull]

whel

[stoic rapids]

i'd just keep her r2

she doesnt really need dlt and you'd be much better off using your resos on units who need it more

if ur a whel u can afford to r3 all then ofc by all means go ahead with incan

but i highly recommend securing priority resos

dlt for whoever that needs it
dd for tanks
r2 amps (sa+gs)
and only after that go for luxury stuff like incan/ga/matrix

[frank kindle]

do u have most chars on r2?

[grim phoenix]

🫡 gotcha; im not a whale or anything, im f2p and vera's just my favorite lol

so ill save them then

[slate gull]

oh, a vera dog

woof woof

[grim phoenix]

more like a cerberus leash

favorite squad i love them dearly

[frank kindle]

yea, better spread them out

[slate gull]

can i spread vera's legs

[lean plinth]

what to do😭

[swift socket]

Keep clearing new area, that's ending stage right? After you clear require area, you will unlock it

[tranquil bramble]

Nah

[lean plinth]

thank god thank you

[normal sierra]

so... what is ss3 midlena phy rota?
I'm too lazy to do glacio, but when I tried her in phy, I realized that I know just as much about her phy rota than her glacio, aka nil

[faint monolith]

It's possible to get above 500k in a single stage in ib?

[fading kestrel]

no
cap per stage is somewhere inn the 300k's

[faint monolith]

[onyx plover]

Yo I can't put cottie as a min max option in the bot. Is it broken?

[final fog]

The name is changed

Its kuriko now

[restive karma]

scire is 4 davin 4 bath for wz?

[vague nebula]

thats what I am using

[real jackal]

https://youtu.be/D_Cgpc7dbjs?t=110

I'm not able to do the hold basic after the hold dodge here. ss3 w/sig.

[warped turtle]

should i give selena dlt or after glow?

[feral pollen]

dlt

[south oar]

Vera's build is 4 da Vinci 2 Guinevere right?

[fading kestrel]

correct
she uses a different one if you use vera as your main dps though

[south oar]

Thanks!

[rocky wedge]

R1 ss0 lucia, R2 ss3 wata, R3 ss0 vera

[vague nebula]

whel

[torpid yarrow]

I couldn't find a consistent SSS rotation for Selena pianissimo so I made my own. Hope this helps (GLACIATION):

Echo

1. Start as Alisa Echo
2. Swap out into Wanshi

Wanshi

1. 3 ping
2. Hold dodge until matrix triggers or until he enters his gunslinger mode (this activates glaciation accumulation)
3. Spam red orb until you reload
4. Keep spamming until you run out of ammo
5. Ult
   5.5. When the bullet STARTS TO LEAVE wanshis barrier in the animation, Activate QTEs
6. Swap out into Selena

Selena:

1. 3 ping yellow/red
2. Hold basic ASAP after the 3 ping to activate matrix

NOTE: you should have around 1 matrix ping red/yellow orb. If you see more than 3 at this moment you held basic too slowly

3. Matrix ping the yellow/red orb
4. Ult
5. Hold basic
6. Blue orb
7. Mash white orb 4 times

NOTE: If you try to go above 4, white hair mode expires

8. Hold dodge
9. Ult
10. Swap out into Echo

Echo:

1. Hold dodge
2. Tap dodge
3. Tap dodge
4. Tad dodge (can skip if echo is SSS)
5. Hold basic attack
6. Ult
7. Swap out into Wanshi and repeat the Wanshi rotation

• Last note, Selena can now accumulate more than 1 orb when performing step 2 on her rotation after the initial rotation

[normal sierra]

[torpid yarrow]

Just made it out of frustration because I watched like 5 glaciation guides and none of them have been consistent or are not specific enough

[vague nebula]

[torpid yarrow]

Here's a demo if needed

[warped turtle]

is SS hanying with paton really impossible
my rotations are crap

[restive karma]

do you not have dlt?

[restive karma]

[upbeat orchid]

Very satisfying, I'm jealous of you having her at SSS

[feral pollen]

there's already glacio rotation for sss selena

also this echo rot is wrong

wanshi you just alternate between screen and drone ult

[upbeat orchid]

It's the same rotation Spider 2B shows

[feral pollen]

3 Dodge > Hold BA > ult```

this is how you do rot on echo

[upbeat orchid]

He said:

• Hold dodge (Enters glacio mode)
• 3x dodge to fire glacio arrows
• Hold attack (Jump arrow attack)
• If out of orbs then use blue orbs
• Ult
• Repeat if needed

Idk why he said "If out of orbs then use blue orbs" at the part with Echo's rotation

[feral pollen]

i mean if you like to brick ur wz scores you're free to follow spider2b not my business

[upbeat orchid]

Might have been a mistake in the text he put at the top left?

Bruh people here told me to check Spider 2B, sNazz and empress for rotations

[torpid yarrow]

I was comparing rotations with other youtubers and couldn't get consistent results. Literally the only thing consistent in the rotation are wanshi and echo

[upbeat orchid]

My rotations only became consistent with them when I put DLT on the signature weapon, they failed to mention they're using DLT

[torpid yarrow]

it's echo and wanshi were solid

I have dlt

[upbeat orchid]

Huh, maybe they messed up the guides for SSS then

[torpid yarrow]

And even then they weren't consistent

[feral pollen]

https://youtu.be/D_Cgpc7dbjs?t=130 just follow this, empress is solid for sss and higher but no so good for ss

[upbeat orchid]

Ah, so if Ausbruk follows Spider 2B then it's bricking wz score, not me since I have her on SS0 lol

[feral pollen]

spider2b is good if you just want to have basics covered

following his sss rots is pure wz bricking

[upbeat orchid]

Good to know

[feral pollen]

best is to follow bili runs of people who regularily retain legend

for sss and s+

[torpid yarrow]

Yeah i even tried his physical rotation with sss and even that one doesn't work. He doesn't mention the difference between a fast basic hold and a slow basic hold on Selena's part on my version of the second step

[frigid path]

Any idea which character I should try to get in draws between Lucia:Pyroth and Vera:Geiravor?

[undone turtle]

Chat sleep is important

[cobalt prawn]

Vera needs 2pc cottie to do blue ping-dodge-blue ping-ult1 right?

[jolly agate]

Lucia, because she is the dps of the team

[torpid yarrow]

And this was the sss physical rotation I was having trouble with. But I'm good now #📨・general-help message

[frigid path]

Okay thanks

[stray siren]

Her SS0/SS3 glacio rot is fine, helped me reach 8.4 million with SS0 Selena

I haven't tried the phys one

[languid cove]

is the new biancia worth saving up for?

[wintry parcel]

Yeah

[simple dew]

shes a massive upgrade over lamia

[cobalt prawn]

Whip go brrrrrrrr

[frank kindle]

i did record sloppy speed run of tundra, 7min 2 sec

[sand laurel]

so people actual do like bears

[serene heron]

can anyone help with selena glacio rotation i am holding attack after the hold dodge but its not working

[zenith thorn]

wdym npt working
it works fine

after hold ba you need to 6white

[jolly agate]

Do you mean the matrix isnt activated when you hold ba?

[serene heron]

yea

[jolly agate]

Oh thats because you already activated the matrix from your first hold ba, so just continue with using white orbs

Then your second ult

Oh wait its glaciation

[serene heron]

yea

[solid kraken]

Do you suppose we'll ever get another s-rank frame where the three colored orbs aren't divided between alternate modes?

[jolly agate]

I mean its fine you can continue your rotation, its normal your matrix isnt activated since youve used it from first hold ba

[zenith thorn]

who knows

[jolly agate]

Usually for glacio after hold ba i continue with 6 white orbs and hold dodge again then ult

For flower ult

[serene heron]

ah i see i guess i have to be quick about it cause glaciation runs out

[zenith thorn]

need to qte alisa to prolong glacio stack

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/qmBaViLqGcw.gif

[grand jay]

If you play for meta ofc

Depends on your situation

[serene heron]

so do i not proc qte on wanshi ult

[sand laurel]

she is actually both, waifu+meta

[serene heron]

and save it for selena instead

[sand laurel]

can't wait to replace feesh

[jolly agate]

Oh sorry i didnt watch your vid, your matrix is activated again here

[jolly agate]

Yeah

[grand jay]

Daren needs to go im so serious

What a waste of space

[deft apex]

Fire tank Veronica

She's all dragon

[grand jay]

Shred doesn't work with TLC so you have to time your qtes precisely for Bianca to do dmg

[grand jay]

Hell no

We have gone without a new tank for close to a year noe

That said I want Kamui to take the spot but Kuro is really easy to telegraph

I just hope Vero isnt gimped

Assuming she is dark tank

[serene heron]

ty for the help

[sand laurel]

https://tenor.com/eX2ybiGPpd1.gif

[feral pollen]

every time my monthly passes expire

[frank kindle]

if u'd like some tundra ref
#📨・general-help message

[rocky wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-nfs-need-for-speed-major-skill-issue-l-gif-11851455108599273472

[zenith thorn]

dalao how to glacio

I'm losing hair stem every minute i mald

[rocky wedge]

idk i have major skill issue

sorry

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[rocky wedge]

😳

[frank kindle]

have u tried watching yomm vid

[deft apex]

Bro's sponsoring

[rain anchor]

what to do here

[river nymph]

build sentry tower

[feral pollen]

there's building in the gamemode?

[rain anchor]

how ToT

[rain anchor]

oh

thanks i never done that before

[river nymph]

[solemn spoke]

so you been in this server for over 2 years and never did that…

just proves these modes need reward buffs

[frank kindle]

if u want speedrun strat, it's linked above

[rain anchor]

LMAO SORRY GUYS

ive always done like lower levels only

[solemn spoke]

so still a noob

[rain anchor]

yea

[heavy marlin]

What's the uppc tomorrow?

[frank kindle]

due to changes in files we are blind now

[rain anchor]

lmao

couldnt find next week rot for warzone on huaxu

[frank kindle]

also speedrun tundra contains maximum 1 fight

difference between no fight and fight is like 30 sec loss

[deft apex]

Maybe gwyn tifa lilith

[frank kindle]

if gwyn i gotta save everything for wednesday

[deft apex]

Wdym save everything

U wheling on pyro?

[frank kindle]

to not make same mistake i did this week

[deft apex]

Oh

[frank kindle]

[rain anchor]

what this mean

oh i get it

[frank kindle]

yea, i cleared 2 warzone stages

before wednesday

[rain anchor]

well i did that too

[frank kindle]

saw mission and was like: oh..

guess im saving next week just in case gwyn pops up

[rain anchor]

they be dragging this event as LONG as possible my god

[river nymph]

[frank kindle]

i lowkey not like her fire rot tbh, plasma is okay

[rain anchor]

i ss3'ed selena cuz i wanna use her flower ult LMAOGJAOHU-

[frank kindle]

hmm i need to find 388 vouchers tommorow somewhere

[rose yew]

Time to do cursed waves

[frank kindle]

[rose yew]

Holy whel

[frank kindle]

wait

i need to recalculate pepega

[rain anchor]

oh my god

[deft apex]

Where rdf

Go do that

[rain anchor]

i still dont have selena capriccio cuz i never finish that ToT

[frank kindle]

i bought everything except the character

[deft apex]

Go get my cute selena

[frank kindle]

missing 90 vouchers somewhere

do i really need to mald trials of simu

[deft apex]

Do the candy crush thing

[frank kindle]

what candy crush

[deft apex]

Whats this again lol

[frank kindle]

the style battle

[deft apex]

Search on the same page as golden vortex iirc

[deft apex]

Oh right

[frank kindle]

WAIT

i can get 200 from jetavie challenges

saved

[rain anchor]

[frank kindle]

thus i can sss echo tomorrow

without even reaching 50lvl on bp

[rain anchor]

damn

[frank kindle]

@deft apex

[deft apex]

[frank kindle]

insane tbh

so many vouchers saved for later

[stark tundra]

Should I get lucid dreamer?

[acoustic wigeon]

Why did they give Nanami such an annoying buff in this one

[acoustic wigeon]

Ye

[frank kindle]

Wdym

[acoustic wigeon]

The block thing in simulacra

[frank kindle]

U can cast max 2 signatures, just spam BA into slam

And easy SS on hell

CW is so ridiculous in this that i got SSS on hell without any additional skills unlocked

[acoustic wigeon]

Oh yeah partying with cw is a piece of cake if you get used to it

[stark tundra]

Currently I have SSS selena and S alisa

[acoustic wigeon]

Parrying

[stark tundra]

Alisa ain't on banner

[frank kindle]

Wtf

[acoustic wigeon]

Still worth it in dorm currency

[frank kindle]

U get echo from dorm

Lucid dreamer as well

[stark tundra]

Okie

[rose yew]

Scire must be all the way at the left yeah

[frank kindle]

[rain anchor]

can i cope and use sss no21 xxi with bianca dark LMAO

[frank kindle]

Probably

[rose yew]

You skipped a whole generation there
Gen 1 unit with Gen 3 Bianca

[rain anchor]

probably because the devs wont release a new freaking dark tank

[shy jackal]

gen 4 will release before they add new dark tank

[rain anchor]

what gen is bianca twilight

[shy jackal]

3

but eh gen is community made term anyway

[rain anchor]

excited for what they cooking up in the future

[wintry parcel]

You know, Parhelion is also a solid option for a Dark Tank alternative

[rain anchor]

yeah thats what im currently using- oh wait why didnt i think of that

[wintry parcel]

Parhelion also has an Off-field resistance reduction that can be utilized by both the new Bianca and Daemonissa

[wintry parcel]

Also is that the official frame name of her new frame?

[rain anchor]

im not sure but i saw on some youtube video lol

ok not just some, every video is using that name

[wintry parcel]

I see

[willow vale]

Hey, the in-game, greyravens and discord bot all recommend different builds for Epitaph.

What's a good all-purpose build for his Geiravor and Pyroath team without sig and harmony?

I just got him so he's currently S rank.

[rain anchor]

gray ravens is dead so dont use it, in game is inaccurate

only use discord bot

[shy jackal]

bot should have all the builds you need

[zenith thorn]

crespuscule is her office frame name

official

[somber panther]

Up to Dark bianca patch, voucher shop still not update yet? Still up to lilith yes?

[wintry parcel]

A what?

Damn

[wintry parcel]

As far as I know, yeah

They haven't released a new voucher unit to be put in the voucher shop

[rain anchor]

cresp-- what?

oh.

[zenith thorn]

middle English word

[rain anchor]

imma just call her bianca twilight ToT XD

[rain anchor]

ive seen people do like 3-4 ult lilith rotations, anyone got the rot?

[ebon adder]

do we know post bianca unit info yet or no?

[shut fulcrum]

is Vera best built as a dps on fire team?

I just saw snazz vid and wata runs davinci?

[wintry parcel]

No?

[rose yew]

the unit that do least damage in the team always hold davinci unless you have lantern

[wintry parcel]

Which one of his videos that you watched?

[shut fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/DotTSBGnhh8?si=PD9delVrF6E87Td8

wata dv, Vera sig and cottie

[shut fulcrum]

so wata does least dmg right?

[rose yew]

mhm

pyro qte does more damage than wata entire combo

[vital nova]

new vera can be dps yes?

[shut fulcrum]

lmfao

so Vera should be on dps set

what about Shakespeare though?

and alphonse

[vital nova]

4hervor 4cottie is her dps set no?

[shut fulcrum]

yes it is I think

[rose yew]

what does alphonse do again

[shut fulcrum]

it says smth about fire resist

[shut fulcrum]

any suggestions on the above^ also does it matter if my Lucia is ss3?

[rose yew]

personally I built 4dv4shakes for watanabe and 2cot2lan for vera

[shut fulcrum]

what is 2lan?

[rose yew]

lantern, limited memory
just use guin if you don't have it

[shut fulcrum]

so 4 sig, 2 cottie 2 guin

[rose yew]

ye

[shut fulcrum]

Kk, and this was noticeably more dmg in fire wz?

[rose yew]

diff invest from snazz but my own score did improve by 300k

compared to 4 cot Vera

[shut fulcrum]

hm thats a decent amount

I'm just wondering if it's worth for me since I've already ht her dv and gv set

[wintry parcel]

Honestly

Just use the Davinci Geiravor and Epitaph with the usual set

As much as Snazz has done with his warzone run, there's nothing that guarantees you to be able to do the same

[shut fulcrum]

true

also with the dmc collab, do we get their shards from pain cage?

[rain anchor]

no

[shut fulcrum]

how many times do we need to pull if I want vergil ss3 and Dante ss

assuming we get the free dante

[rain anchor]

dante once

vergil twice

so like 31500 bc

if im not wrong

anyway ull be getting ss3 dante if u just pull once

since u get another copy upon pulling one copy

[shut fulcrum]

is the free copy only of the character ur pulling for

so say if pull for Dante, could I choose the free one to be vergil?

[rain anchor]

no

[shut fulcrum]

ok so pull Dante once for ss3

pull vergil once for ss

[rain anchor]

correct

very generous

[shut fulcrum]

fair enough

how much is wep and is it guarnteed?

[wintry parcel]

No

80% drop rate still

[shut fulcrum]

is it 250 per ticket?

[rain anchor]

yes

weapon exactly same, only character different

[shut fulcrum]

wait is next patch for global just dmc?

[rain anchor]

mhm single patch

we will be experiencing pain LMAO

[shut fulcrum]

omg

[tall gust]

Hey Meta Chat

[shut fulcrum]

wait single rewards as well?

so I ffed up by getting Lucia skin...

[tall gust]

this is a very meta question
has anyone here used lootbar before for PGR

[rain anchor]

u need 46500 pulls if u wanna get ss3 dante with sig, ss vergil with sig

personally im just gonna get one copy of vergil and his sig and dip

[shut fulcrum]

might do the same

I don't really care for dante

[rain anchor]

since there wont be any burn ppc, and i can just avoid burn wz

[shut fulcrum]

actually good suggestion

cuz my burn would probs suck

also my phys has good investment soo makes sense

yeah Dante getting the skip easily

[rain anchor]

also i dont have vera geiravor LMAO so yeah avoid burn at all cost

[shut fulcrum]

so how much for just vergil and wep?

[cobalt prawn]

https://youtu.be/DotTSBGnhh8?si=QAiSFSGrFszU6u9b

!!!

[shut fulcrum]

yup ikr

[rain anchor]

18000

[shut fulcrum]

we were just talking about it above

[cobalt prawn]

Ohhh

[shut fulcrum]

ah light work

[cobalt prawn]

I guess it rly is just skill issue atp

[shut fulcrum]

tbf that's different servers and wz then global rn

[cobalt prawn]

My score just barely over half that w similar invest although I don’t have wata

[shut fulcrum]

idk if that affects the score, but anyways snazz is a very good player

[shut fulcrum]

wata probs a big impact icl

[cobalt prawn]

I’m coping w nanami ignition holding the 4pc dv

Yea too late for me to get him up tho

I think I’ll be able to easily maintain hero either way, legend is too much

[shut fulcrum]

yeah fire tank could be soon

other priorities besides that but yeah

[rain anchor]

im gonna ss3 wata

[cobalt prawn]

7M with SS is crazy either way tho

[rain anchor]

with the selector is it a good idea

[shut fulcrum]

now?

[shut fulcrum]

ohh free selector

[rain anchor]

yup

[shut fulcrum]

hmm tbf I could do the same

I was gonna get alisa

[rain anchor]

cuz i dont have shukra at all and i think ill just wait for new ice dps since i dont wanna backpull

[shut fulcrum]

is ss3 wata a big diff?

[rain anchor]

+10% shred i think

[heavy marlin]

Is it good to ss3 wata? i don't plan on building shukra

[shut fulcrum]

the only issue is wata only has fire wz, I feel like he can be power crept super easily relatively soon

[ebon adder]

so go for qu instead?

is qu's ss3 25% edb even good?

[rain anchor]

i cant get vera so i think ill ss3 him to help fire more. since i already have ss3 lucia

[shut fulcrum]

yeah I wanna buff my ss3 lucia

[rain anchor]

yea but shukra is also the same case though

[shut fulcrum]

I just got wedding skin

[quartz silo]

do questions about any dmc5 collab theorycraft go here or another channel?

[shut fulcrum]

what do u guys think I should do, use selector on alisa and spend 24k/98k tickets, or get ss3 wata and spend 48k

cuz I don't think we are getting another BP character for awhile

[rain anchor]

what rank is ur alisa?

[shut fulcrum]

ss3 soon, I want sss

[rain anchor]

hm

[shut fulcrum]

so basically 24k tickets worth of bp

compared to ss3 wata

and I have 98k rn

[rain anchor]

oh u have 98k tickets wow

[shut fulcrum]

I don't think we are getting another form character for a while anyways

[rain anchor]

i would just get ss3 wata and spend on alisa

[shut fulcrum]

yeah and that's 98k with level 35 on this current bp

and I'll be able to save alot more

[cobalt prawn]

4 shakes 4 cottie on vera is interesting

I thought her carry set would be w 4 of her signature set

but ig cottie lets u get ult1 without having to do the hold basic animation

[wary thicket]

Can ss dante outdmg ss vera or ss epitaph
If lucia is not present

[shut fulcrum]

pretty sure no?

I think Vera does more dmg? idk tho

[wary thicket]

I'd believe so too

[shut fulcrum]

yeah Vera's builds are confusing me, Imma just stick to dv tho to save resources

[wary thicket]

In such a team vera would be dps no ?
Whts the heriarchy of dmg

[cobalt prawn]

no

[shut fulcrum]

also incase we get new tank and her dmg is relegated again

[quartz silo]

is it better for a new player (who downloaded the game cuz of the dmc5 collab) to build fire/phys teams around dante and vergil, or should I build their "optimal" team (ignition/ultima slash)?

[cobalt prawn]

Dante exists purely for ignition

[quartz silo]

cuz I know the units for both teams differ slightly

[wary thicket]

@quartz silo they are bad in fire phys

[shut fulcrum]

I'm skipping Dante

just getting his free copy that's it, and I'll just get vergil and wep

[wary thicket]

Yeah so dante DMG is below vera yes how about epitaph
He also over dante ?

[cobalt prawn]

Vera of equal invest does more dmg than Pyro until SSS

Dante doesn't come close to either of them

[shut fulcrum]

dayum

[wary thicket]

Whut ?

No way

[cobalt prawn]

is what firefly told me

[shut fulcrum]

I feel like I should run my Vera on dps build now lmao

[wary thicket]

I wouldn't believe tht tbf it's so doubtful

[cobalt prawn]

epitaph idk

[shut fulcrum]

tbh It never felt like Lucia did much dmg to me idk why

[quartz silo]

also can someone explain why there even are "ignition" or ultima slash teams? they're additional effects, right?

[shut fulcrum]

I feel like selena was a noticeable jump

[wary thicket]

But idk since my vera would never be over my lucia in terms of rank I'll stop her at ss

[shut fulcrum]

I might be waffling here...

[cobalt prawn]

that is true for me at SS rn

[wary thicket]

@shut fulcrum I don't think selena is all tht pretty underwhelming

[cobalt prawn]

but it depends, Pyro's full ult does have higher burst so I use her rotation only, in PPC

[wary thicket]

Lucia still is peak atker

[shut fulcrum]

I have both of mine at ss3

[cobalt prawn]

she can finish off bosses with single ult whereas Vera would have to do double rot

so this is in terms of dps in WZ

[wary thicket]

@quartz silo ignition and ultima are used in hero wz or above you have a choice to go through those stages instead of Normal to get a better score and rank

[wary thicket]

Thts enuf to know

[cobalt prawn]

and some bosses that are specifically weak to certain affixes (I believe only in UPPC and IB)

[quartz silo]

ah I see

[wary thicket]

Uppc I haven't seen affixed before

[quartz silo]

I guess the corresponding effects will get gigabuffed

[wary thicket]

I wonder when they add themt I hope thy don't cuz tht sounds shyt

[quartz silo]

to have them to useful for that wz

[cobalt prawn]

we're getting them soon, i think TS and glacio boss are coming in

[wary thicket]

Ib whoudl be fine

[cobalt prawn]

oh wow snazz is cancelling her hold basic animation for ult 2 form as well somehow!

[shut fulcrum]

so he's hacking

[cobalt prawn]

hold basic and tap dodge twice at the same time apparently

very interesting

[shut fulcrum]

mmm.. gosh I'm conflicted now

[wary thicket]

On alisa ?

[cobalt prawn]

skips first 2 animations and goes to final sweep right away

[shut fulcrum]

idk if I should build Vera dps or not

[cobalt prawn]

and then ult finisher, it's so fast

[wary thicket]

Only if you don't have lucia

[shut fulcrum]

I have Lucia ss3

[abstract tapir]

Hi guys got a teambuilding question: using bridget as my fire tank and she has 4 davinci 2 einsteina, so what should my vera use? 4 guinevere and 4 hervor?

[wary thicket]

@shut fulcrum no need for vera dps

[shut fulcrum]

but I mean dps build on Vera and then wata gets dv

[wary thicket]

@abstract tapir do you have lucia ?

[abstract tapir]

I do

[wary thicket]

Then your team is lucia vera and bridget ?

[abstract tapir]

Yessir

[wary thicket]

Give bridget 4 shakespeare and vera guin dv

[cobalt prawn]

I think in this case I'd do the shakespeare cottie build for vera

[abstract tapir]

What does shake do again, i forgot

[cobalt prawn]

cuz his bridget will never go on field

[abstract tapir]

Yea my bridget is pretty much a qte bot

[cobalt prawn]

if vera is dv/shakes his dps will be so low in WZ

[wary thicket]

@abstract tapir fire shred

[abstract tapir]

Damn is hervor that bad

[cobalt prawn]

also it depends on invest, Vera does out damage Lucia if they're both at SS0, but its looking like SS3 and SSS pyro does more

[wary thicket]

@abstract tapir hervor is for solo vers

[abstract tapir]

Theyre both ss0

[wary thicket]

Bruh

[abstract tapir]

Oo i c

[cobalt prawn]

yeah I'd strongly reccomend 4 shakes 4 cottie on Vera

[wary thicket]

If the DMG comparison is true then vera should be main

[cobalt prawn]

and Pyro with her regular build, doing fast + full ult per rotation

[wary thicket]

Why shakes on vera when bridget is there

At tht point it's better to just use hervor

[abstract tapir]

Isnt guin better

[wary thicket]

As a support yes

[cobalt prawn]

u dont need hervor tho cuz dlt is enough for orb gen

[wary thicket]

Hervor doesn't increase her DMG ?

[vale raft]

Hervor ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

ATK increases by 5%. Fire DMG and Darkflow DMG increase by 5%.

4pc Set Bonus

Gains 3 bonus Blue Orbs after casting Scorched in Void. Doubles the bonus Absolute Pyre duration granted by pinging a set of Red Orbs.

ATK

132

CRIT

66

DEF

223

HP

1491

[cobalt prawn]

I think shakes gives higher boost

[wary thicket]

Damn hervor is trash

[cobalt prawn]

yeah cuz this is split between fire and darkflow

[vale raft]

Shakespeare ★★★★★★

2pc Set Bonus

All ATK increases by 3% and Fire DMG increases by 7%.

4pc Set Bonus

Extra DMG Bonus increases by 10%. Attacking a target inflicts them with Burn, which decreases the target's Fire Resistance by 15%. Burn lasts for 8s and has a 10s cooldown against the same target. Attacking a target inflicted with Burn causes an explosion that deals 600% Fire DMG. This effect has a 6s cooldown against the same target.

ATK

134

CRIT

64

DEF

223

HP

1491

[cobalt prawn]

shakes is goated

[wary thicket]

Holy fk this is ridiculous

[abstract tapir]

Hmm so 4 shakes 4 cottie for vera, and 4 dv 2 einsteina for bridget

[cobalt prawn]

4 shakes 4 cottie is the way to go!

[wary thicket]

@abstract tapir yes

[abstract tapir]

But i dont think ill have her sig any time soon tho, still go with 2 cottie?

[wary thicket]

Yea sure

[keen plume]

anyone remembers whats the best way to farm this?

[wary thicket]

How is her energy generation without cottie tho ? I don't have so enlighten me how many rots can she do

[cobalt prawn]

btw with that setup, u can do blue ping + dodge (animation cancel) blue ping ult 1, red ping 2x, hold basic and tap dodge twice when QTEs light up (animation cancel), ult 2 and repeat, and it fits within the amplifier buff timer!

[abstract tapir]

Idk tbh i havent really touched her at all

[cobalt prawn]

u cannot do animation cancel without cottie

u need to do the hold basic + blue ping to unlock ult 1

[abstract tapir]

Noted ill give it a try later tyvm

[cobalt prawn]

and ult 2 I think u can't cheese the first 2 with dodges eiher

[tall gust]

Okay, meta chat

[cobalt prawn]

but I haven't tested that one personally so I won't speak on it

[tall gust]

I have successfully whaled for the first time ever in a gacha game

what pack should I buy

[wary thicket]

I haven't really looked into her since I don't have her but I'll keep tht in mind

[tall gust]

to get a lot of black cards

Ik it's a monthly one but which one

🤔

[cobalt prawn]

the animation cancels in the ult 2 form are tricky in terms of timing so it'll take some practice!

[wary thicket]

@cobalt prawn when you have tested her cancels and rots do tell me whts her optimal rotation

I'll add you

[cobalt prawn]

the only thing I haven't tried myself is the red orb cancels

the blue ping stuff everyone alr knew abt

[cobalt prawn]

sounds good, prob sometime tmrw

[wise lion]

The only thing you can get for 20$ probably : bp , mpa

[tall gust]

This?

[wise lion]

Yep

[tall gust]

I can buy 2 of these and then buy the thunderous research bp

That's 6600 BC

Pretty good

[wise lion]

The feral pass only comes with 650 bc , what your after would be the 2 reso chips

[tall gust]

Ohhh

Well ngl that's... kinda mid

[tall gust]

Okay I'm left with 58 RC left

[wintry parcel]

Well there are other things than just black cards

[tall gust]

Wonder what should I spend these with

[tall gust]

I think I want to prioritize BC for DMC patch

[quartz silo]

oh

for the alpha newbie pass

do you guys use the leap materials on alpha

or should I hold onto it for another unit

[wary thicket]

@quartz silo there's no active use of her leap for now

Did you leap alisa ?

[crystal nymph]

who should i pick guys

[wise lion]

Both of these passes can be brought up 3 times , cuz of synchro patch 3x . good deal can easily get units to S rank for a low price with vouchers

[wary thicket]

@crystal nymph nanami

[wise lion]

For 12$ it's a great deal

[tall gust]

Yeah I can't get it anymore though

I got 59 RC rn

I can buy 2 of the Monthly Pass C

so i can get up to 12k BC

[quartz silo]

you do need to leap her to finish the manual

which is like a 6* weapon reso and a backdrop?

think the medal is as superficial as it gets

[wary thicket]

If it's for the manual then there was no need to ask

[wise lion]

Buy the 7 day boon pass
It's just 24 rc

[quartz silo]

its worth it right?

[tall gust]

If my math ain't failing

[quartz silo]

oh lol her cub is phase 5

nvm

[wary thicket]

As I said her leap as no actual for the foreseeable future
But since you can get leap material from simulation shop it wouldn't be. A problem if you leaped her to get resources from the manual

[tall gust]

that's 2750 BC
the Monthly pass for 28 RC is 3000 BC

[wary thicket]

The only useful leap is alisa

Actively used in glaciation content

[tall gust]

wait u can't buy the other monthly pass if you already have another one active

god damn it

[wise lion]

You just need to log in 7 days to get all of it for boon pass , the monthly pass requires 30 days login

[kindred bobcat]

Buy the one in shop

[tall gust]

Yeah I am buying the 7 day one

[tall gust]

can't, I just bought this one

Two times, so it equals to 6600 BC

[tall gust]

Yep that one

that's 2750 BC, good enough

[kindred bobcat]

You can stack that with this and the 7days

[tall gust]

That's perfect

12.75k BC

[kindred bobcat]

6600bc in 60 days

[kindred bobcat]

This 6600bc in 30days

Via mail

[tall gust]

that's like 60 times what I get paid monthly

[wise lion]

3.3k in total plus tax
If your planning to 🐋 🐳 big
I can lead you in the right direction

[kindred bobcat]

26pity lets go free ss3

[true pivot]

screaming

i cant surpass my goat

[kindred bobcat]

Time to r2 selena

[toxic maple]

as a new player who got crimson weave and feral from the freebies should I use the beginner 40 pull banner to get nanami startrail and finish the lightning team or is there a more meta pick? I like the look of ishmael too

[wintry parcel]

Starrail is the meta pick

Both for the lightning element team and in general

[toxic maple]

yay! she's super cool so that makes me happy

[tall gust]

nah, but thank you

I can now get 11.75k BC in 60 total days

I'm expecting a total of 40-55k BC

hopefully this is enough to get both dante and Vergil

Ngl I'm crazy because I became a dolphin for a gacha game when I get paid 100 dollars a month

[raw swift]

How do I activate quantum tunneling on wanshi's bullet ult to pre-hit the next wave so qu can kill with core

[zinc charm]

hey guys i am bit new to the game, i just got thunderbolt manual selector, who should i choose on the selector

[tall gust]

Okay so, let me tell you a bit about this game before you choose a character

[zinc charm]

do you forget me

[tall gust]

Nah

But u get what I mean

[raw swift]

You can get qu shukra so you can ss her without skulls

[zinc charm]

hmm

[raw swift]

That or watanabe epitaph

[tall gust]

reminding you that u need teams of same element, also affixes

[zinc charm]

i mean

praatically i can get both from selector

[wary thicket]

So just having sss alisa would give me a 7mil boost huh

[tall gust]

I recommend getting Watanabe over Qu, solely because

[zinc charm]

yknow what i get both

[tall gust]

Qu is going to be replaced #soon ™️

[zinc charm]

ah hell nah

[tall gust]

Also u can keep ur selector

and wait for dmc collab and then Vera Geiravor and Selena Pianissimo will be added there

so if you get Watanabe now and Vera later

[zinc charm]

nah i dont think its possible

[tall gust]

u will almost have a fire team

[zinc charm]

i already used the blue check

[raw swift]

Source: my ass

[tall gust]

Think about it

[raw swift]

No

[zinc charm]

and theres no anniv banner to the future

[raw swift]

Watanabe is male

[zinc charm]

i dont think bianca patch has an anniv banner

[raw swift]

He's also a fire tank

[wary thicket]

Nah not any soon we may get isce amp liv but qu is staying till then end of the year at least

[tall gust]

Kamui construct next TRUST

on my soul (im dead)

[wary thicket]

We have a dark tank to get as well

[zinc charm]

noooo

[zinc charm]

dont explode

[tall gust]

I ain't gonna lie I still believe Watanabe is better pick than Qu

[zinc charm]

youre not wrong

[wary thicket]

Yea

[zinc charm]

but both need signature in equal measure

[tall gust]

Realistically the best pick here was
Getting Vera Geiravor

[zinc charm]

wata without dlt signature are gonna struggling hard on 4 shakes rots

nah ill be skipping her

this second acc can go brick

[tall gust]

since she brings value
i am a dog
and she's the owner
also she's meta in 3 teams

[wise lion]

Here's how much dmc gonna cost from
f2p - > 🐋 🐳 invest

It may cost more if you get
off rated pulling for sig

[tall gust]

I'm going for ss Vergil first

and then ss3 Dante

I mean if I lock tf in and grind the living hell out of story and other modes

[zinc charm]

at most i am just gonna ss0 either with sig or not on dante and vergil

[wary thicket]

10k only and no more on dmc

[tall gust]

I can get 77.5k

[zinc charm]

i want to save for selena's wedding coating

i am not SKIPPING THAT

speaking of

anyone know the maximum bc spent on the gacha

[wary thicket]

Goes from 10k banners to 17k ish banners

[zinc charm]

17k? is that included the scenery too

[wary thicket]

These are the two type 17k ones have 100 pulls constant cost system

[zinc charm]

or is the coating maximum

[wary thicket]

I believe yes

[zinc charm]

i see

[wary thicket]

Check out lucia wedding banner to confirm

It's the 17k system

Has intermediate rewards on milestone

I think tht has the scenery

[zinc charm]

whats the command to show upcoming patch

[vale raft]

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[wary thicket]

This ?

[zinc charm]

waittt

dmc not gonna be merged?

[wary thicket]

I mean dmc is one patch singular

[ruby minnow]

nope, single patch based on what kr got

[wary thicket]

Why would they mix a Collab with normal patcg

[zinc charm]

i se

oh that mean the income is gonna be

[shy jackal]

yeah

11k bc

[wary thicket]

Bro thue already wrote discord veronica and liv lol

[zinc charm]

i want discord

[wary thicket]

I wonder who the dark tank is between discord and veronica

[zinc charm]

discord and veronica either of them will be dark tank

like pleaseeeeeeeeee replace daren atp

[wary thicket]

Yeppp

[wise lion]

Current patch on gbl
Is the final synchro patch

[wary thicket]

She holds back Bianca so much

[zinc charm]

idk whether i should pull dmc unit atp

i mean sure dante is free but for the sake of meta hmmmmmm

[wary thicket]

It is purely skippable id say

I'm only pulling vergil once and no more spends

[zinc charm]

prolly going for just ss0

[tall gust]

I mean tbf

[zinc charm]

we can get their 5 star weapon through exchanging shard ye?

[tall gust]

Both dante and Vergil are affix meta

[zinc charm]

you know the weap shard

[tall gust]

until the other affix characters release

[zinc charm]

i am aware

[tall gust]

so it's not entirely a waste

[wary thicket]

Im not too troubled nana can do good enuf in affix

[zinc charm]

true

[wary thicket]

But since my ts is shyt I need vergil

[zinc charm]

the ts ppc boss can be beated with glacio

i have the exact invest in glacio so theres that

[wary thicket]

How quick ?

[zinc charm]

i forgot but enough to 580k

it was shared here from blibli

[wary thicket]

Good enuf

[zinc charm]

the cn dalao is crazy on that

[wary thicket]

I'm not skipping metas for Collab fr

[zinc charm]

oh

pyroath is actually not that bad

ts tho, hell nah

yeah i might invest in vergil only

[wary thicket]

Yep I Bianca being shyt and hanying being ss only I can't skip vergil entirely

[zinc charm]

sure ss0 r1 at minimum

ts currently highest scoring team

i mean my bianca is S0 so

too late to invest in her so it is what it s

[wary thicket]

The dmc patch would give 11k bc no ?

[zinc charm]

11k bc as in

reward? or wekkly income?

[wary thicket]

Patch total rewards of all sorts

Weekly events everything

[zinc charm]

wait lemme

[naive monolith]

epitaph or starrail with vera which is better for dante??

[zinc charm]

star trail

[zenith thorn]

startrail

[wary thicket]

@naive monolith bruh wht. A question

[zenith thorn]

dante is a burn unit not fire

[zinc charm]

anyways the banner is reduced to 1500 per 10x pull ye?

[wary thicket]

Yes

[zinc charm]

is the weapon still the same with its price

[naive monolith]

another question, is there a free S rank selector for solacetune?

[wary thicket]

Wepao8is same

[zinc charm]

no as of now

[wary thicket]

@naive monolith the thunder bolt ? Blue ticket ?

[zinc charm]

still 2500?

[wary thicket]

If you haven't used them

@zinc charm yes

[zinc charm]

whats the max pity for the collab unit

[naive monolith]

i used it alrd

[wary thicket]

@zinc charm it says sig weapon 7500 menss no disc on tht

[naive monolith]

what's the best team for vergil

[zinc charm]

hanying alisa vergil

[wary thicket]

@naive monolith there's going to be special banners in dmc patch maybe you can get her there

[zinc charm]

what about it

[wary thicket]

Same as fate ofc

[kindred bobcat]

Go to general help

[wary thicket]

I mean the usual

[zinc charm]

you mean 60?

[kindred bobcat]

#📨・general-help

[wary thicket]

Yea

[naive monolith]

isn't what im asking meta?

[zinc charm]

hmmm since we only need 1 copy to get free ss0

[kindred bobcat]

We dont talk about virgin and dante here

[zinc charm]

max pity is 60 with 1500 price per 10x pulls

[kindred bobcat]

Cuz they aren’t meta

[wary thicket]

It's 175 times 60 > 10.5k bc

[naive monolith]

which hanying and alisa? im kinda confused about their code names

[obsidian dune]

cant be meta if they arent released

[wary thicket]

@naive monolith solacetune and echo only one alisa here

[kindred bobcat]

Even if they aren’t out yet they are not meta

[naive monolith]

aight thanks

[zinc charm]

idk if i got it wrong does that mean 60 pity is just 9000 bc?

[wary thicket]

It's 175 per summon

[obsidian dune]

10.5k

[wary thicket]

Not 150

[zinc charm]

i see

[kindred bobcat]

No one will entertain which team for virgin or dante here even helpers hate those question about DMSKIP

[zinc charm]

i though its 150 per pull wth

[wary thicket]

For first 2 time you get the char 1 is free

1 pull on vergil = ss vergil

1 on dante > ss3 dante

[zenith thorn]

i wouldn't say they aren't meta
that's still misinfo

they are still meta in affixes team

[zinc charm]

i am aware we get free 1 copy upon pulling them

[wary thicket]

wrong tag

[zenith thorn]

wrong tag

[kindred bobcat]

Just use selena

[zenith thorn]

nice job discord

:deadge:

[wary thicket]

[kindred bobcat]

Blaming discord with ur pepegahands

[zinc charm]

so best scenario for me is 10500 + 7500 bc up to 18k

[zenith thorn]

everything is discord fault wdym

[wary thicket]

@zinc charm yes

[mighty tusk]

Cryo is just washed

[zinc charm]

assuming max pity for both unit and weap

ASSUMING I DONT LOSE THE FRICKING WEAP BANNER

I HATE WEAP BANNER GRAHHHHH

[wary thicket]

Oh surely not

[kindred bobcat]

Just dont lose

[wary thicket]

Ok so again whts the total bc gain in dmc patch ?

[zinc charm]

[kindred bobcat]

I haven’t lost to the 80% ever since Empy

[zinc charm]

lucky bastard

[kindred bobcat]

[wary thicket]

I lost once and it gave me qu weapon
Which led me to pull qu

[kindred bobcat]

Keep gambling and win big brother

[zinc charm]

i lost selena weap

[wary thicket]

And when I wanted to lose it gave me the win jeez

[zinc charm]

game felt bad and give me early pity

ill let my vera still on 5 star

gonna save atleast to 18k to ensure vergil

[zinc charm]

you want to have solacetune and echo

respectively its hanying and alisa's frame

[kindred bobcat]

Just use selena in ts

[zenith thorn]

k whel

[naive monolith]

i already have echo, my only problem is getting solacetune, ion think there's any guaranteed pull for her nor S rank selectors

[zenith thorn]

ngl I haven't lost mine since kaleido

[kindred bobcat]

I feel like my wep banner is rigged

[zinc charm]

k thats on you gng

theres one selector on thunderbolt manual, but its equiavlent to debut banner

but that felt like a scam

[wary thicket]

There would be special banners from lamia to piano
In dmc

[zinc charm]

hmm

[naive monolith]

that selector that uses an exclusive ticket?

[zinc charm]

yes

but you shouldnt, theres going to be special banner as @wary thicket said

[naive monolith]

I ain't rolling there ever

[zinc charm]

in dmc patch

[wary thicket]

And also a discount banner up till echo on dmc as well
180 per pull or smthn

[zinc charm]

wth

[wary thicket]

If it's special I would like to believe tht it has 100% drop

Well see I guess

[zinc charm]

if its anything but 100% i am not gonna roll it

[wary thicket]

Exactly and it could be also tht you can only pull on these once

I mean thts not really bad tbf

[zinc charm]

i am fine if its just one time banner

i just dont wnat below 100% banner

[wary thicket]

These are re running In dmc

[zinc charm]

whar

[wary thicket]

Choose 1 only

[zinc charm]

why is luna coating rerunning

[wary thicket]

Idk wht they thinking lol

[naive monolith]

say for example you got a copy of an S character, will the shards be enough for SS?

[zinc charm]

oh well i have her coating anyway

[wary thicket]

@naive monolith 30 shard to ss

[zinc charm]

need 30 shard to ss

a dupe is 30 shard, so 1 dupe is enough to ss0

but you can just use skull (500 total) to get 30 shard for free

[naive monolith]

so, yes?

[raw swift]

For s rank

[naive monolith]

what skull

[wary thicket]

Pain cage skulls

[raw swift]

Phantom Pain Cage skulls

[naive monolith]

oh aight

[wary thicket]

In shop 500 for 30 shards

[zinc charm]

pulling dupe is not reccomended for f2p

unless giga lucky and get the copy early

my friend got selena on fate banner on 10 pity and her debut baner on 20 pity, and her weapon on 10 pity too

i stg this mfer

[naive monolith]

i got 2 dupes from 60 pulls

[wary thicket]

Did he start at selena patch?

[zinc charm]

no

he start around cw patch

[wary thicket]

Bruh

[zinc charm]

he used the blue check for cw PPFFTT

[wary thicket]

Wtf

[zinc charm]

now whenever its about meta he will come to me now

[wary thicket]

Should have researched

[zinc charm]

well

bless him, hes new player who just want to enjoy the game

i cant get mad at him for that

[wary thicket]

I rerolled thrice and ended up with epitaph
Starting on luna patch

Took qu once and lamia once then heard epi is needed

[zinc charm]

irrc i started on nier collab, idk if its the rerun or not

[rose yew]

I just realised leg wz fluc is 369

[zinc charm]

whar

369? holy sh

[rose yew]

No wonder the threshold is 1000w per wz node

[zinc charm]

no wonder my phy felt a bit tankier than usual

[wary thicket]

Wht does 1000w mean

[zinc charm]

my glacio score higher than my phy wth

idk i could be skill issuing atp

[wary thicket]

Thts usual no affix stages give higher ?