i cant draw body

[bright fern]

It depends on who you ask, they might only charge £5, it depends on them, the quality of the art, and what you're asking for

[fallen abyss]

like the quality is good

and i was in a company

[fallen abyss]

if i cant find good job after getting the diploma

iam gonna work for companys

they dont need diploma right?

[latent bone]

Most artists don't have a diploma, most jobs don't ask for a diploma but it does depend where your at and what art job your going for. Honestly art isn't like the best plan B it's not that secure and has alot of competition

[latent bone]

Which

[fallen abyss]

coding

or other

[latent bone]

Isnt learning fun tho?

I mean like I didn't know how to respond at first to this but yeah now I do, uh it's sorta like why not have fun and take advices not as criticism but just another new thing to try out next time? Atleast I do that

[fallen abyss]

oke

oh and iam praticing in school too

but the drawings kinda bad

beacuse iam not traditional drawer for now

[latent bone]

Nicee

[fallen abyss]

i think iam not getting bored of art

iam getting tired

my brain cant handle it

[twilit cedar]

Maybe you're drawing too much.

Without any meaning

What I do is that I only draw when I'm with the urge to draw

[latent bone]

Take a break and do something fun

Then when you want to you can always come back.

[twilit cedar]

Like I still say that "man I should practice" and then I do but for the most I only draw when I want to draw

[fallen abyss]

after i learn anotomy iam gonna draw my own oc

[fallen abyss]

random things i did drawed in school

dont take it seriously

and dont yap(tell) about the wrongs

[twilit cedar]

Actually you're better than me

[unreal kraken]

.

..

Yaaay 2024 messages.

[fallen abyss]

uh

[fallen abyss]

best arts i made (old ones but not that old but i made months ago so yeah and everyone did see the art but i wanna send again) :

[fallen abyss]

how to draw hairs in persective?

[latent bone]

Uh well if you group the hair into shapes, then thought of that in perspective would make it easier to imagine. Also hairline following perspective is also very uh important

When I mean "into shapes" I don't mean regular shapes that we have practiced but like more of randomer different shapes, what ever the hair has been grouped to

[fallen abyss]

u

uh

oke

and

i can draw hands

i drawing the hand as a box and the fingers are cylinders

[latent bone]

Cool

[acoustic linden]

Don’t think of it as hair, think of it as a helmet almost

Like

Solid object first, then you can worry about strands

[acoustic linden]

Also learning the details of where the hairline falls on the head will help

So that when you shift the angle, you still know where the hairline needs to be

[acoustic linden]

Another tip that helped me: Think of it like starting on a big blank stone of marble and chiseling away. Every “chisel” makes a shadow.

When you put your pencil on paper, you are chiseling the block

Creating shadow

Big shapes big shapes first then you get into the details

The process is the same for sculpting and drawing and that’s how they overlap and how they learn off one another

Drawing is just a 2D representation of 3D sculpting 💯

(Traditional drawing anyway, when you get into things like cartoons that occasionally break those rules, different conversation, learn the rules before you break them)

[fallen abyss]

ok

[regal mortar]

@fallen abyss Im a Jojo fan too!

[fallen abyss]

ok cool

[regal mortar]

The reason i got a bit excited is there literally so less jojo fans in my country

[fallen abyss]

oh

oke

[fallen abyss]

i cant draw body

[fallen abyss]

iam placing blocks and shit beacuse iam fucking in minecraft

iam placing blocks and shit beacuse iam fucking in minecraft

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

MYYY GOD

IS THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

[fallen abyss]

FUGGIN PIG

[bold turret]

Let’s stick to art bro

[fallen abyss]

iam taking break

i got fucking school

[fallen abyss]

Dont take it seriously its just for fun

Oh and

[fallen abyss]

Its a manga page

[fallen abyss]

Why this is looks like a cartoon character?

[thick snow]

This has some of the common mistakes

[fallen abyss]

what

[fallen abyss]

i think you posted this in wrong chat

[fallen abyss]

and why this drawing looks like he is doing the vine boom look

https://tenor.com/view/therock-gif-21824738

[thick snow]

Yup

Wrong one

[fallen abyss]

lol

[fallen abyss]

unfinished gojo drawing

[digital bobcat]

The head proportions are off, elongated horizontal chin, high set jaw with no end curve. That kind of stuff

[fallen abyss]

beacuse i cant draw on the the paper

just look the digital pictures

[fallen abyss]

and

is unfinished gojo drawing is good?

[fallen abyss]

this chat is dead

fr

[latent bone]

Haha true

[latent bone]

It's good, you still gotta learn face anatomy and all we haven't started it so I don't really expect you to know all that rn

Head anatomy is crazy hard lol

[fallen abyss]

yo

wsp

[latent bone]

BG got banned for no reason

[twilit cedar]

Just out of nowhere?

[misty briar]

yes

and iam bg

i asked to staffs

they saying i left the server

theres no this saying in logs "Bg Was banned beacuse ......."

discord have a problem

[misty briar]

a glitch

i think

[misty briar]

in this chat litreally theres 51 users

what a hell

[unreal kraken]

Why did we as a community just pick this one dude to help.

[simple plaza]

cus its fun and stuff? (idk lollll)

[night crow]

he's making good progress!!

[bold turret]

Why not ???

[simple hedge]

JOJO FAN IN THE WILD!! NOW I HAVE TO SHOW YOU MY ART

[night crow]

IMG JOJO

[misty briar]

damn

and i cant join to this server in BG account

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

and iam thinking

should i take a break from scripting

and come back to drawing?

hm

iam gonna do that

iam not drawing things like weeks

[misty briar]

uh

uhhhh

this is looks bit weird

[willow belfry]

the rest of the hand is too small compared to the fingers

[misty briar]

oh oke

[latent bone]

for a bit more context on how the refrence perspective is working , yk how we learnt that planes closer the camera will be bigger somewhat similar thing here but with the whole shapes itself. The hands closer to the camera so its bigger as you can see its bigger then the head or as big as the head

in yours it looks the same size

like it looks like nothing changed

i feel like you do this thing where you start trying to draw the texure instead of the shape, the hair is definetly a example.

try and think of the shapes of the hair and do it like that

also make the eyes bigger but let the iris be the same size it is right now

[gray harbor]

@misty briar hey if you have problems drilling how to draw anatomy into your head (like i do), you should definitely study this book by michael hampton, someone here sent it to me long time ago, and its been helping me ever since, practicing will always help, but it is slow, and the best way to speed things is to study the topic, hope this helps!

https://ia803404.us.archive.org/30/items/michael-hampton-figure-drawing-design-an/Michael_Hampton_Figure_Drawing_Design_an.pdf

Actually its better to search "michael hampton figure drawing design" on google instead, as Internet Archive has been going offline alot for some reason

[bold turret]

Fix the face

[misty briar]

drawing the other eye is hard

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[bold turret]

Drawing ain’t easy bro

It’s supposed to be hard.

It gets easier

With practice

If you’re not gonna do the hard stuff now, it’s gonna stay hard

[slender flower]

crazy the last line 💀

its gonna stay hard

[latent bone]

Been there beffore, one Lil tip is to draw the eyes together. One sec it's gonna send just made a tutorial to make it easier

Doing this is easier for me, then that so yeah

[misty briar]

oh

ok

thanks

3 months later everbody in this server gonna be in this chat i think

[misty briar]

and

what iam gonna do with anatomy right now?

[latent bone]

What do you wanna do?

Rn I think your observation skills need to be better, but that needs practice which your doing rn

Train ur eyes to imagine how to draw the refrence, simplify the shapes in your head

See how perspective works irl, like you probably have a object in your house you can hold rotate and move it arround and see how things go into perspective

Heads aren't much different everything follows the same rules

Keep practicing and observing, you will get better

[misty briar]

like

when iam gonna draw characters?

after 100 box anotomy drawings?

[gray harbor]

you cant just go for characters straight away, and expect it to not be hard, characters are probably the hardest thing to draw, i suggest try to do basic stuff first, like objects or buildings, to get a hang of perspective

[latent bone]

If in all those 100 drawing your learning something new and geting the hang of perspective a bit better, I would say 50 is all you need it depends upon how well you do and learn

Do you wanna do the really hard head drawing? Harder the more results you will get

But it needs to still be doable so if you cant then it's probably my fault for recommending it too early

[crimson topaz]

This is a good way to remember body proportions at first, but to improve (in my opinion), you should go more with gut feelings and basic practise and understanding if the pose( if there is) but even now, when I face problems in my art I refer. to this

Also, you should focus on the 3 movable masses (the head, ribcage and pelivs)

I don't really have my sketchbook right now, so I'll just explain it best way I can

The head is a circle , the ribcage is an egg abd pelvis is just a cylinder. Don't rush at art. It will look bad at first but as you progress over the years, you will improve, even if you don't realise it.

Remember, if you feel like you haven't improved much over the years. Compare your new drawings with older ones.

[misty briar]

hm

okay

[latent bone]

Well if you decide to do it, then here: https://youtu.be/A6KMT4Potss?si=-wkxm_m2xWJG05Le

If it's too hard don't worry, practice makes perfect

[bold turret]

I’ve never understood this method

I’ve said this before, but I’ve just had an unholy amount of practice which gives me an instinct for proportions

Practice is the way to go

Look at real life references and start practicing from there.

Try and draw anime characters later. I know I sound like I’m here to kill the fun but I’m not.

Start by drawing irl faces by looking at references.

Use whatever method you’d like. Doesn’t matter

As long as you UNDERSTAND what you’re doing, and have full confidence in your skill and method

Be confident. Art is all about confidence too. No one says it

[misty briar]

i dont think iam gonna leave some time for art

beacuse exams are started

and i need to study

so

uh

when exams end

iam gonna practice art

[unreal kraken]

Bruh

[snow folio]

I need help with My faces and Shading

[latent bone]

I found a much much easier video XD https://youtu.be/u5TzIRjOua4?si=3wQKcmN2gsLl9RHb

[misty briar]

from the screen to the ring to the pen to the king (roblox sword effect) wheres my crown thats my bling always drama when i ring 🤑

https://tenor.com/view/ksi-to-the-screen-to-the-ring-to-the-pen-to-the-king-prime-lunchly-thick-of-it-gif-1949196725597123345

[misty briar]

why the fuck iam just goofying around

[frank idol]

????

[latent bone]

Lol happens to mee too tbh, best advice is to remind yourself you can do it and start doing it so you actually accttuallyy can do it

[misty briar]

breh

[misty briar]

NO WAY

I REALLY DRAWED THIS SUPER FAST

I WATCHED THE VIDEO RILLET SEND

AND I CAN DRAW HEAD EASILY

DAMN

also you gonna think why iam drawing now (beacuse like iam drawing rarily) beacuse i got banned from roblox and i cant do scripting so i got bored and i want to draw and

iam mastering drawing heads

[misty briar]

idk how to draw neck in persective

[frank idol]

try to flip the canvas to see if you doing it right

[slender flower]

where jaw

it has no jawline

[latent bone]

That's really a improvement compared to past drawings good job keep going at it

[latent bone]

Btw a little tip,

Drawing is kinda way too ez if you use ez methods lol

You can actually cheat faces even more, so like see how the ear starting is right in the middle of the side view face? This just means if you draw a box in that same perspective view and add a line in the side plain of that, it's basically the jaw and ear positioning

[misty briar]

i already know wheres the ears are

oh

and

iam gonna send my drawings that i drawed on a paper

[misty briar]

i cant send

[latent bone]

The ears are supposed to be more of over here in that angle

I also suck at ears but idk I thought I would share this

Ears and jaw are something your struggling with rn, I don't think you realise it tho

[misty briar]

oh ok

[latent bone]

BTW I HAVE A IMPORTANT QUESTION!! THIS WILL DETERMINE EVERYTHING, unlimited bacon or no games or games UNLIMITED GAMES or no games.

[spare drum]

I LEARNT OFF THAT VIDEO TOO

Is that video an artist canon event or smth

[misty briar]

Unlimited games

why would someone choose no games

oh and

iam not gonna go to school for 9 days (its for the schools in my country)

[latent bone]

Oh cool

[misty briar]

and iam gonna send the drawings i drawed in school

this is good or not?

[latent bone]

That's pretty cool

[misty briar]

and

this drawing

[latent bone]

This looks really cool

[misty briar]

i have problem with drawing hairs

woah

we typed at same time

[latent bone]

You wanna learn how to?

[misty briar]

yes

when i draw hair its looks like characters head is a egg

[latent bone]

So basically look at the big shapes, like don't look at texture or little stuff, I'm guessing your drawing more of dragon ball kinda hair right?

[misty briar]

idk

[latent bone]

Well either way only dif is gravity anyway

Look at the big shapes and let the hair groups have variety

[misty briar]

big shapes?

[latent bone]

Don't draw all same size and width

[misty briar]

oh

[latent bone]

Yeah, so yk we can sorta simplify hair into shapes these shapes depend on hair and hairsttle

Hairstyle

[misty briar]

hm

[misty briar]

oh

[latent bone]

Sorta just see how gravity affects hair

And also see bigger shapes

[misty briar]

and i need to make diffirent positions?

[latent bone]

Yeah you can

[misty briar]

hmm

[latent bone]

I forgot to mention ussually the hair is following a direction

[misty briar]

oke

[frank idol]

try this first https://youtu.be/O1Aye4wzhNs?si=acQ44loXb1N6u8kV

[spare drum]

Here’s smth for people who need help with anatomy

https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing

Most useful thing since the pencil

[misty briar]

oh

[spare drum]

Oh?

[misty briar]

yes

[misty briar]

i just tried to make basic body sketch

its looks like kinda flat

[night crow]

looks good! keep up the progress

[misty briar]

i have proplem with drawing legs

[brisk crescent]

What problems do you have?

[latent bone]

Except of drawing like slowly not knowing where what's gonna be, try this draw the circles first then the cylinder

Actually tho do this for everything it will also make your line art better. You should plan out whats the next stroke as your drawing

[brisk crescent]

Legs curve

[misty briar]

yes

[brisk crescent]

If you look, the front of the thigh curves, and the back is straight, and the back of the shin is curved, and the front is straight

[misty briar]

https://tenor.com/view/right-now-it’s-just-that-everything-feels-right-sorry-amanai-gojo-sorry-jjk-gif-6689060642723775612

[misty briar]

i got a idea to practice