is-station

[raw hemlock]

fisherman guy

[faint rampart]

oh the fisherman encounter?

yea

[raw hemlock]

yea

[faint rampart]

bosky

[raw hemlock]

:o

cleared the last turmoil, do i take the blademace?

[faint rampart]

i forgot what that is
if some dp increase for minor stat boost then uhh i wouldn't

[raw hemlock]

okayyyyy

What should I do now? I bought most of the things in both traders and the leftmost doubt node wants either 12+ hope or ingots to pass through

20 ingots to be specific

...oh the top one's 50 ingots-

gimme

duo-carrier sedan and defender-2

cool

[inland elbow]

Tavern is free 10 shield

[raw hemlock]

that gives me 10 LP and 18 obj shields

Oh boy...

[sharp harbor]

Is6 ending 5 boss...

Looks hard

[raw hemlock]

So... what's the plan?

[winter belfry]

win

[raw hemlock]

Which skills?

(podenco's acted as an emergency medic for some battles)

[inland elbow]

Radian s2, exu s2, leizi s3

Leak all of left side

[faint rampart]

😭 i was assuming you had e2 Mizuki and hoshi2 all this time

[inland elbow]

Radian mid exu right facing left covering radian

Use summons to bait stomp

Use exu to keep radian alive

Blast the shit out of the boss with exu leizi

[raw hemlock]

i never got more defender or spec vouchers this run after recruiting hoshialt and mizuki

[raw hemlock]

got it to half without deploying leizi2 (initially baited it to left side with enough space for me to drop nara to take out a chunk of the HP) so my currently-KO'd ops are nara, raidian, exu2, and hoshialt (helped with bait redirect after the initial fumble)

Holy-

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

and since the only HP loss was obj shields that's technically a perfect run on that!!!

[faint rampart]

congrats

now ed3

[raw hemlock]

m2 for s1 unlocked :3

[golden raven]

which one easier? is4 or is3?

[stray dove]

what difficulty we talking about?

D0? D15-18?

cause the answer varies based on that

[golden raven]

d0

[woeful knot]

is3

[stray dove]

IS3's easier in D0 imo

[golden raven]

how about is5? is it hard to clear? i need that instant mastery for haruka

[faint rampart]

easy and fast

[inland elbow]

is5 is the easiest and fastest to clear of them all at d0 if ur only doing ending 1

you just gotta abuse lamp or doodle

[nocturne cape]

they should delete charcoal mask from the game

no offense.

[chrome tangle]

why is bro hiding his CN content

💢

[wanton rose]

chong

[stray dove]

what absurd choices are on that specific node which makes you choose the Ed5 boss variations?

because I'm also seeing map variations

[sinful sparrow]

huh 160

what did you pick

cuz this aint the 122 enemy jobber variant

[nocturne cape]

Second option

Easiest diff

[arctic breach]

Is the lighting a lot of damage?

[stray dove]

not too much

but make sure

you have a healer ready

all I can say is

that lightning is far far easier than what you experience in Pathfinder fights

[faint rampart]

am i misremembering something about the lightning dmg scaling with ingots

[stray dove]

thats a unique variation

in which there will be constant chains of lightnings near the end of the timer

[arctic breach]

Also I heard the Chinese players can fight chongyun

[stray dove]

with more strikes per ingot scaling

[arctic breach]

In his prime

[stray dove]

and its the variation with frost drones

[faint rampart]

oh oka, so not related to lei fa

[arctic breach]

Why do I have a feeling it's going to be fiendish hard?

[stray dove]

LeiFa is just

a fair amt of strike intervals

and it's only a set number of strikes

once it's done. no more strikes will happen

[sinful sparrow]

leifa my goat

[arctic breach]

So is it arts damage

[sinful sparrow]

pathfinder is now shit with it

it's 400 arts 9 times

[arctic breach]

If so nightingale or bassline can help them tank it

[stray dove]

NG is too costly

just make sure there's enough healing

1 good healer

or 2 healers

[arctic breach]

Also why is the rng with the butterfly suck so badly

I just want to get to ending 2

Meanwhile I keep encountering the go board endlessly

[sinful sparrow]

you can quite literally

just protect the operator with exu

literally

[arctic breach]

Lmao

Apple pie protect

Too bad I didn't get her

[stray dove]

The Butterfly will never be in any Legend node in the first 2 layers of squares in the center

while the Ending 3 Doubt Node will always be very near the center

[dire mesa]

i thought ed3 doubt is always the first doubt revealed?

[stray dove]

you can wait for Expansion 4

because that finally gives a QoL

as to where the butterfly node may be

without visiting it

[potent gulch]

U know that 1 turmoil stage, if you dont have a 10 cost or below vg or a 99 dp coin or starting dp relic... U will 100% fail

[lost anchor]

[potent gulch]

With no way to able to deploy any1

[empty gulch]

expansion 4?

u mean ending 4?

[stray dove]

my bad

yeah Expansion 1/Ending 4

[empty gulch]

btw when will ending 4 come out approximately?

[nocturne cape]

@sinful sparrow 52 relics end of f3

[sinful sparrow]

?

wtf are you cooking

teach me bro

[nocturne cape]

new ingot squad

its pretty good

greed EM and always exchange coin

[desert brook]

integrated strategies 6

[sinful sparrow]

exchange coins?

in Plan?

wtf does that do

[nocturne cape]

no

just always pickup coin

[sinful sparrow]

what's the new relic that it starts with

like what does it do

[scenic igloo]

so can someone help me with actually beating guided mode? i have tried so many times and i keep failing. keep getting told use tragodia or whoever else and i still lose regardless. am i missing something or am i just bad

[nocturne cape]

shop cost half

everytime you pick up coin get +3 ingot

start with the one time shop refresh coin

thats it

[lost anchor]

Do you have any E2

[winged kelp]

What condition is on Ascension 16,17,18 on IS6?

[chrome tangle]

Wait really?

[scenic igloo]

yes

several

not maxxed out e2 tho

[split void]

You sure about this ?

#is-station message

[remote badger]

just say in 5x5 block

center as the empty title

or the center of the bosky itself

[split void]

5x5 is kinda big no

I have another theory that it has to be certain number nodes aways from the center

[chrome tangle]

Well it can just not exist

At all

[split void]

Well that node should be like at least 3 nodes always from center

So for those who are running ed 2, they can feel safe to go some legend node in the beginning where they might not have many Ingot

[boreal birch]

someone have 6 7 gif chara pepe?

[faint rampart]

💀

[boreal birch]

[stray dove]

That one's a no because Cube mentioned that there was a time when it took 2 nodes before he reached Ending 2 Legend

i can imagine it was a purely horizontal or purely vertical pathing

[split void]

When I said certain number I just don't know what is the exact one

Maybe you have to go through at least 2 nodes from the center before meeting first Butterfly?

Look at this "2 layers of square"

[sinful sparrow]

It turns out it can appear within the 3x3 square

It just can’t be directly adjacent to the origin

[foggy heath]

So, regardless of the floor, is it always beneficial to enter Sui's remnant consciousness?

I always skip first floor to gather candles before going in at later floors

[halcyon flame]

i have realived

[split void]

I think it is only good if you play a squad with extra candle when entering?

Otherwise just skip F1 ?

[onyx gust]

Is this squad enough for blind first try Wang?

[faint rampart]

should be?

[sly harness]

You should always go through the Bosky node to get Candles. But enter in only if you can take the fights (they are some cope strats to enter f1 to fish for vouchers)

[sly harness]

Leizi S2 and Yato S3

Eyja can be awkward as a healer but on low difficulties/with good collectibles should be fine

Wang is ed3

[faint rampart]

wtf red

[split void]

I have reading problems

[faint rampart]

we all do

[onyx gust]

I did it first try yippe

[gritty mason]

for is5 what guard should i raise for tragodia start b/n quartz/humus/utage?

[sly harness]

Humus

I've also seen people using Arena or Luo Xiaohei

[gritty mason]

i have windscoot raised but i assume not ideal with 0 block

[sly harness]

you need block with Tragodia + Medic (Purestream) + Guard start

[foggy heath]

Va bene, noted. I always avoid entering on f1 since I usually only have 1 to no candleguest anyway

[stray dove]

btw

that D17 or D18 modifier

of Ending 5 boss having physical/arts 100% dodge outside of the one blocking them

did that just skyrocket the non-Charcoal Mask relic values?

[sinful sparrow]

?

[stray dove]

any solutions for Ed5 to bypass that? We going back to true dmg?

[pastel saffron]

lemon

[onyx gust]

Idk what was the mechanic of the fight I just brute forced it

I just saw lots of particle effects

[stray dove]

Ed3 boss can be simplified as just deal with the black pieces as much as you can

if you can do that, no issues.

[split void]

Playing Go Ed

If you know how to play Go easy

[faint rampart]

wha

[split void]

Do you know Go ?

[stray dove]

yeah sure....just like go

uh huh....

[split void]

Wait what do we gain when we cover them again ?

Someone said it but I forget

[faint rampart]

saw this on maybe tv shows idr

[split void]

This is Go

Basically we are playing Go with Wang

Just like in Shu Animation

When Wang put down a piece and it is all go dark

Rewatch it

[faint rampart]

[stray dove]

yeah but how they talk about it in story is like....

it uses Go pieces

but plays like Shogi

[carmine token]

[stray dove]

Wang embodies warfare

and so he just clicked with "Shogi" (canonically named Weiqi ingame)

[faint rampart]

oh so thats what weiqi meant ingame

[sinful sparrow]

why teri dead

[split void]

I didn't know that

[faint rampart]

its ketchup wdym dead

[split void]

This is our majesty Theresa

Idk who Teri is

[sinful sparrow]

teri is theresa bro

[split void]

[sinful sparrow]

🫃 🫃

you're actually pregnant

[split void]

This is literally the 1st time in 6 years in this community that I heard someone calling our highness Teri

[faint rampart]

bet its from vnmese servers

[split void]

There are some in Vietnamese yes

But this one is in dreamy server I think

[faint rampart]

omg its the arknights cc

[native sky]

270k orundum to 148k orundum bc of hoshi

💀

[carmine token]

[native sky]

bruh

too much haruka

Only haruka was in the banner

[split void]

How many pull exactly?

That number only said 200+ , but I think it might like 250 total

[brittle grove]

Haruka bring the pain

[stray dove]

at least Haruka and Hoshitter are really good

so some pots from them are more acceptable

than me having Pot5 Viviana

[native sky]

300

[stray dove]

permits on the rest then

[native sky]

[brittle grove]

She curse you apparently

[split void]

I am not even P5

Spend close to 300 , only have 1 virtu

[native sky]

now im thunking who to change with 300

I have chalter

Gavialteyr

Pepe

[split void]

Close to cause I can't reach 300 that event

[native sky]

So

Idk who to change

Haruka or hoshi?

[split void]

Ch'en2 and gold cert

[stray dove]

spent 300

[split void]

Or 72 gold cert

[stray dove]

1 Virtousa

sparked

[split void]

-# ||And then . I started mining nonstop till now||

[native sky]

I still need for silverash, ave mujica, the one can build ranged tile in melee tile

Im going to be bankrupt

[remote badger]

why not

declare bankruptcy

rn

[native sky]

This is my first time having 300 pull in limited banner

Maybe I should have stopped in 40 when haruka was out

[brittle grove]

certs probably the angle for more pulls

[native sky]

My orundumssss

Good news is that I can change 76 pulls later

[brittle grove]

So either kichisei for more certs or follow ur D. Just say hoshi pot 🤣

[split void]

34 pull in right now

Till the end of this banner I will have 18 pity if no 6*

No Haruka

Maybe I should stop

[brittle grove]

Did u bleed on leizialt banner?

[split void]

Well kinda

You knew it from riic ?

[native sky]

how do u see this？

[brittle grove]

Yeah remember it vaguely, idk who tho

[split void]

Yostar account. Go to game info

[native sky]

K

[split void]

This is pretty new

[split void]

I have new Thorns2 ||for base||, pot 2 Exe2, so it is like not the end of the world

They are both useable

[native sky]

Wut

[brittle grove]

Slightly more%

[split void]

Regular headhunting arrow

[brittle grove]

thornsalt notbad yea for the combo

[native sky]

Oh

Ic

30 Pages

Yeah…

[brittle grove]

Thats tell enough

🔥

[remote badger]

equivalent to the length of a HPA* paper

[split void]

The x10 here is upsidedown tho. I have Hoshi2 in 1st slot in x10, they make it last slot. So if you want to use this to count pity, remember that

[split void]

It is hard to explain but when I have Nasti. Thorns2 will have better place in my base

Oh wait maybe we should stop

[brittle grove]

u can still insert him on old combo, its like 3% increase or smt idr

[split void]

6%

[brittle grove]

Ah yea

[real mango]

Why the fuck is the "talismans lose 1 hp/sec" thing not a default mechanic in IS6

Why is it tied to the upgrade tree

Who the fuck designed this

[sinful sparrow]

because you dont really need it

just play around talisman and respect them

strong

[stray dove]

the moment you feel like you need a skill tree to actually beat an IS mechanic, you've not even bagan to bother trying to win

[spare ermine]

IS is a stinky mode anyway RA is much better /S /S /S PLEASE DON'T KILL ME

[pure timber]

both suck compared to sss anyways

[cold fjord]

strong when oneshot by shuo

[sinful sparrow]

true

[sinful sparrow]

i also have this :mon3trsmug:

idk how but Yi just ate shit in 1 hoshi s2

:joyplush:

gotta love this

[cold fjord]

still does 1% damage to shuo

[sinful sparrow]

damn this boss is stinky

[cold fjord]

[sinful sparrow]

u mean 0?

(his ass will dodge everything)

lovely d18 condition

:FurnacesFinale:

[stray dove]

based on damage type terms, you can use true damage against his dodge, right?

[sinful sparrow]

Sure

Not sure where you’re getting a good enough source

[stray dove]

by that point, would Hoshitter be the primary option to block the boss?

[woeful anchor]

cheeto m3

‼️

trust

[stray dove]

I wonder if this is still shit against that dodge-block d18 modifier.

cause it ain't max HP

[sinful sparrow]

i hope u explode a miserable death

[stray dove]

so it will get shittier and shittier the lower the boss' HP is

[woeful anchor]

???

why are you a hater

[stray dove]

wait no I'm stupid

RiverSpring buffs every enemy

[woeful anchor]

i think its MAX hp%

[stray dove]

Fib it can't be

[woeful anchor]

surely its max hp

[stray dove]

cayse that means you only need

[woeful anchor]

otherwise its useless

[stray dove]

50 seconds of blocking

to kill ANYTHING

[woeful anchor]

bro

how do u block for that long

also res exists

[stray dove]

oh yeah that too

[woeful anchor]

and DR

[stray dove]

but here's the thing Fib....

there's a hand that exists

that's like that coin

and it wasn't max HP either

[woeful anchor]

its current hp?

[stray dove]

yeah...

[woeful anchor]

oh then ig its prolly current hp too

bruh

garbo then

[stray dove]

at least here it's saying current HP

[woeful anchor]

wat

thats buckler tho

buckler says current

this one doesnt say current

🚬

thats why i was thinking of max hp

[sinful sparrow]

Same

[woeful anchor]

cos if it was current hp too it would say current hp

like buckler

[stray dove]

if we even consider it as max HP....it would still buff every enemy with 50% max HP

[woeful anchor]

yes its still bad even with max hp

[sinful sparrow]

tomimi said its Max HP iirc

double check

[stray dove]

i guess it is nicely balanced

if it's max HP

you just have to make sure you can solve enemies you don't block

[grizzled nexus]

Is the upgradable Tongbao even worth to upgrade? Seems like I just gonna go for it for collection

[stray dove]

unless you're naturally visiting a Plan node for progress

no

[solar tree]

wows #tournament is finally gone

gg

how does the ako IS community feel about this course of events

?

[stray dove]

aren't tournaments done/hosted outside this discord server anyways?

[remote badger]

yep

[sinful sparrow]

unaffected because genuinely no large tourney since SGL2

[remote badger]

but the channel attracts so many hacked acc

so at some point in today infi decided to lock it

[paper notch]

this felt like current hp when i tried it out

just had raidian s1 against ed1

first 95% of his hp went down quick

last 1% took ages

im like 90% sure that he died to the minimum damage from the blockers

[stray dove]

so it feels like a Buckler...

so it might really be Current HP

[paper notch]

this is the text from prts

when translated it says current

but yk i dont speak chinese

[slate hull]

当前 means current, 生命 means life, 值的 means value, 法术 means spells (I am guessing arts) and 伤害 is harm

but I am also just looking this stuff up in a dictionary

but put together that is 5% current life value arts damage

[stray dove]

so it's ass

I would've never thought they would do a boss diff modifier as evil as complete phys/arts dodge to those not blocking

like that's Brave on steroids

[nocturne cape]

Thats why D18 ed5 is so much harder than D17

Very annoying

[sinful sparrow]

good morning

im heading to bed now

[nocturne cape]

Hi mika

D18 yet?

[sinful sparrow]

yeah i climbed to d18 today

gonna start grinding 145 tmr

:mon3trsmug:

[sinful sparrow]

Plan has a pretty disgusting option

Sacrifice 5 LP, and it gets rid of your coffer, and fill it with random Risks

and post dlc2 there are a lot of good Risk ones

[nocturne cape]

Ehhh

I dont know

Entire coffer feels a little weird

[sinful sparrow]

you can also fill it with Bal/Flower

yeah well i was on F2 during d17 run

so i just destroy all of them

[lost anchor]

early stirfry + drum oh mama

I'm so skilled it's crazy

[sinful sparrow]

did you watch cn nerds
like how do they even handle Shuo’s 100% dodge

i am thinking of hoshi trag

but thats it

:smile:

[nocturne cape]

Hoshi trag yeah

[gaunt bay]

what now

[sinful sparrow]

D18 condition

[gaunt bay]

cube what does ed5 even do 🥹

[sinful sparrow]

Shuo will dodge all phys and arts damage outside of the operator blocking him

[nocturne cape]

That will be very hard to explain in text

[sinful sparrow]

yeah bruh

[gaunt bay]

do you have a video

thats not like

a shitpost

[sinful sparrow]

its very complicated

[nocturne cape]

https://b23.tv/2vXwBbR

non-loop highest difficulty version

But its 144 relics with stove and took 1.5 hour

[gaunt bay]

sigh

the fabled

why is exu doing 120k dph 😭

[paper notch]

an hour and a half on the boss???

brother

ts cannot be that deep

[prime mountain]

This smells like is5

did they ruin is6 😭

[heavy pumice]

wtf 90 mins run for ed5 boss

this look so ass
and all i see is full 6* except matterhorn

so thats where the direction hg want to🚬

[carmine token]

spawn creatures

[carmine token]

ng meta

[carmine token]

thats t3 boss me think

[heavy pumice]

lol
when i see the duration.... me insta cancel to watch:ya:

it will be looping and chiping boss hp bit by bit

[gaunt bay]

it was cooked to begin with bro

🥹

[halcyon flame]

It took cube Mika and poly like almost an hour to explain dlc2 to me yea

It’s a little chopped

[carmine token]

[gaunt bay]

you got a brief version?

[nocturne cape]

I will get my clear today

Im very close

[gaunt bay]

i believe in you my rectangular goat

[nocturne cape]

Ngl i like dlc2 so far

This is the needed difficulty

Ed4 is saved too

Its actually difficult now

[gaunt bay]

wtf is the angle 2a45 now

*s5

[nocturne cape]

No 235 is still harder

[gaunt bay]

🤮

oh

[nocturne cape]

Especially if youre doing harder version of ed5

[gaunt bay]

isnt that meant to be only for lingloopslop

[nocturne cape]

But 2a45 is not trivial

No its possible on non loop

Almost always require a highroll tho

[gaunt bay]

whats avg f7 relic count

[nocturne cape]

The leak 200 screenshot that people have been spamming

Is because he was doing damage to the boss way too fast

The boss summon a dragon body whenever its hp drop to a threshold

He was doing so much damage so the boss instantly summoned like 6 of them

[gaunt bay]

bruh

so is the 1.5 hour bossfight expected

[nocturne cape]

Thats why it looks so diabolical

For harder version yes

[gaunt bay]

bruh

[halcyon flame]

nah it was p in depth

cap

[nocturne cape]

You need to play extremely carefully

[halcyon flame]

i lie

[nocturne cape]

Hoshiguma might be the dlc2 goat

[gaunt bay]

🥀

hoshi upscale

[halcyon flame]

my banlist

reduced to ashes

now how can i justify picking flametail

[inland elbow]

surprised pikachu face

[nocturne cape]

Are we really surprised tho

[inland elbow]

I'm just hoping that cheeto comp doesn't become meta for chilchuck dp gen

[carmine token]

meta chilchuck, ccb3 😭😭

[nocturne cape]

Ngl i doubt cheeto comp is that real

I theorycrafted it

But in practice it feels kinda ass

But idk my cooking hasnt been working

Mantra is a fraud

[lost anchor]

1.5 hours for one stage

[halcyon flame]

I’ll test it out

[lost anchor]

is it really that hard

[halcyon flame]

Yes

[halcyon flame]

Dw I will cook

For the Archetto

[lost anchor]

illness

[slate hull]

there is only so much cooking you can do with a cheeto

[halcyon flame]

Nope

I’m different

[lost anchor]

"I can fix her" ahhh

[carmine token]

[inland elbow]

Ur ass hasn't cooked a single thing

It's all raw

[halcyon flame]

says you potato boy

type to me when u figure out how to use an airfryer

[cold fjord]

play extremely carefully when you need to do 2519372351 damage (cuz u need turbo highroll)

piss design

[nocturne cape]

Well yeah

But its not like you can sleep through T3 egg on highroll

Upgraded difficulty is meant to be challenging

[cold fjord]

ok but ur meant to destroy everything when highrolling

[nocturne cape]

Its day 2 anyway

By the time it hit EN we will have fully developed strategies

Too early to comment on anything

Despite all im liking dlc2

Id rather have something thats challenging than everything being way too easy

Worst case scenario you can still chase ling loop on D18 if youre desperate for a win

[cold fjord]

bro will look at t5 egg and say its balanced

[nocturne cape]

Tourist even got a buff to make it more consistent

I said it above

[cold fjord]

u might be an hypermpreg

[nocturne cape]

That -200 screenshot is the dude not understanding the mechanic

And melted the boss way too fast

So like 6 bodies appear at the same tome

Each summon enemies

Its not nearly as bad on a normal run

Whats the point of higher difficulty if a highrolling run can sleep through everything

You still can, by the way

Just loop

Im losing my ass against it but i know im doing better every run

Thats what make the mode fun

Ed5 prereq is sleeper on D17- cuz you can slap your 5 carries and melt it

So an average player on lower diff wont even feel it

[slate hull]

which starting tongbao do people replace first? is west mt worse than south mt?

[inland elbow]

Was that the screenshot where they were using saki

[nocturne cape]

Something like that yeah

[inland elbow]

Mfs not beating the allegations

[nocturne cape]

Upon reaching threshold on HP the boss will summon body and get DR

the dude was on a loop run

So saki shred through the DR

And the boss summoned like 6+ bodies together

Thats why the enemies were flooding

[inland elbow]

Maybe I should pull up on kermits acc

[dusk creek]

He also didn’t play the boss device which I think summons enemies as well yeah

actually does the device summon enemies when you play it or while it's in the deployment zone

[nocturne cape]

When you play it i believe

It summons the fireball

[dusk creek]

no I mean like the additional enemies

it always summons the fireball on play yeah

or is the fireball tied to the debuff relic effect

[nocturne cape]

I dont think the device is whats summoning the enemies

Its the bodies on field

Oh yeah it does

Hmm i dont know actually

I assume its while its in the deployment

So you have to keep playing it

The mechanics are kinda complicated

Still figuring things out

[dusk creek]

oh I think you're right it does just summon this one additional particular enemy on play if you have the debuff relic

then the boss bodies are the ones that summon waves

[nocturne cape]

Yeah its one of the relics that upgrade the diff

Anyway

Surely i win ed5 today

[dusk creek]

:ya:

[boreal island]

might be the highroll addiction, but getting there is harder than the actual fight for me.

[nocturne cape]

I had some trouble at the start as well

En route is much harder on D18

But for my past 3 runs i was able to reach the stage

[boreal island]

my Hoshi is struggling

[dusk creek]

btw the freezing tongbao mechanic is not tied to manual rerolling right? I can just freeze and if I enter a new floor and toss, the frozen selection stays yeah

[nocturne cape]

Its tied to manual rerolling

[dusk creek]

[nocturne cape]

So its huge for lower difficulty but not so much on D18

Since you dont reroll very often

[dusk creek]

yeah then it's a low weaker than I thought it would be

I guess freezing once and you have it for the rest of the run was a bit optimistic

[nocturne cape]

Yeah

Its a nice change tho

Comes up from time to time

[dusk creek]

it basically makes it easier to get combinations of tongbaos but it doesn't really solve the issue of not tossing out a specific tongbao yeah

[real mango]

Man I love the Talisman mechanic

It makes me want to commit Ursus towards civilians

Man I love it more maps need it

fuck, why not just have maps where it just spawns an endless amount of talismans

Also have it so your units just start with talismans regardless of difficulty level

And make their HP drain double

Why not just have them drain SP too

[sly harness]

It happens only if you get the specific Hour of Sui

On higher difficulties it affects more classes

[real mango]

See, you don't get the idea

We just make that thing happen when you start the run

Regardless of difficulty or Sui hour

Fuck having fun anyway, right?

[sly harness]

Ye I don't understand. Talismans aren't that hard to play around

They become a bit more painful on d15 where their effect is AoE and where they can deal damage but still you can play around them

[real mango]

It's just annoying as shit

[prime mountain]

Have you tried just using entelechia

zzz

[faint rampart]

omg furrilo after 3 days

[prime mountain]

Ya I came back from endfield vacation

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/790851224936513558.png

[wary yacht]

temporarily

endfield is taking all my time too

[spare ermine]

Furrilo why is Fib in my dms begging for me to give him my Xiaohei

[prime mountain]

Fib may have gone mad, Xiaohei aint even that good

[winter belfry]

im confused why yall even want luo 😭

[nocturne cape]

IS6 usage prob

[spare ermine]

Yeah it's for IS6

No hope Yan op

Zzzzzzz

[nocturne cape]

@sinful sparrow F5 80 relics before boss

i took ed4 too

this might be the run

if i dont fuck this up

i even have a Lnf to trade my garbage fear relic away

leakless ed5 prereq too

independent luck + toss away your coffer for random risk might be the combo of the century

[prime mountain]

Where tf is my shop

And the one fight is the 0 dp one ofc

[faint rampart]

welcome home cheater

[slate hull]

wonder if that could be the butterfly, only 2 lines away from the start would be wild

[prime mountain]

its not and I didnt expect it to be either

[slate hull]

hmm, I have been keeping track of mine and the closest I had it was 3 lines

[prime mountain]

Erm....

Its fine bro I blew up f5 after rolling twice and not getting it

while on tourist squad

😭

[gaunt bay]

Wtf playing is

Furrilo its time to end fields

[prime mountain]

I already cleared full main story already and I'm exhausted after planting an endillion pylons gimme a break 😭

[nocturne cape]

oh yeah kiwi gimme your friend id

havent added you yet idt

[gaunt bay]

How much did u play 😭

Ill dm u it later

:ya:

[nocturne cape]

k

[prime mountain]

Too much but honestly main story is really short and just cuts off at like half of chap2 for some reason?

Like nothing happens in chap2

its so weird

[gaunt bay]

Story started off too slow but pacing is batter after origin

I heard chapter 2 story is better as well

Im enjoying it quite a bit

The factory must grow

[prime mountain]

Surtr side story made me tear up I'm ngl

[gaunt bay]

Yeah surtr side story was pretty good

I love how they actually explored the similarities between endmin and laevatein

[prime mountain]

It took us 6 years for surtr lore but it was worth

[gaunt bay]

The first 4 hours of gameplay need to be redone though

Early game is such a slog

[prime mountain]

But did you know you can click here to close the tutorial

and click here to place a depot

and click here to

And

[gaunt bay]

😭

Icl its like

Kinda needed

They added like 50 menus

And threw them at you at once

The game needed to trim down on nonessential elements before shipping out

And waited until later to introduce them

[prime mountain]

Why is there a <60 and >60 exp material ???

[gaunt bay]

Instead of slapping you with 50 menus at once

Dude the amount of content is like ridiculous

They did too much random shit

[prime mountain]

Did you do the side quest where you repair like 10 robots

its mad

[gaunt bay]

I think i started that one but i went and did smth else

Progression is kinda annoying cuz ur just running across everywhere

Theres so much to do

[nocturne cape]

ok bro

the game thinks im winning so

guess we're playing this shit

[winter belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158049223351222312/1435872026228428950/IMG_6136.gif

[faint rampart]

as expected from my goat

[empty gulch]

u r doing ed245?

[nocturne cape]

yes

[slate hull]

oh hey, they added white shoes

[empty gulch]

i thought they were in is6 since its release

[faint rampart]

i wish

[nocturne cape]

ermm

yeah im dead

xd

[steel relic]

Washed

[native sky]

[empty gulch]

literally out of control

[nocturne cape]

0 aspd

😭

[steel relic]

Where’s your Ente

[nocturne cape]

i dont have entel on CN

[steel relic]

Damn you really are washed

[nocturne cape]

perhaps

[sly harness]

About highrolls

• Seen Risk (+50% damage to Apparitions) and Sui's Flower (+10% ATK/HP/DEF per Candleguest with 10 of them

And an ASPD coin with 200 Ingots (I wasn't able to roll it)

Literally every broken collectible in one run

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/893116082607497256.webp?size=48&name=WorryTiredOfYourShit

[gaunt bay]

Bro gigashilled the creature and doesnt even have her

🫃

[nocturne cape]

you see

not having her is fine

ive played gathering with entel start and gvg

[chrome tangle]

Where is ur entel start

[cold fjord]

How brutal is this on d18

[nocturne cape]

A bit

[winter belfry]

damn and that was an 80 relic run

[winter belfry]

what are the extra enemies here btw

is it just more cars 😭

[nocturne cape]

Idk actually

Didnt notice anything suspicious

Maybe routeweave doesnt work in here

[winter belfry]

oh yeah that one gif has 87 enemies

[flint token]

How is evil chongus looking

[nocturne cape]

Challenging but not unbeatable

[winter belfry]

might be the hardest IS stage to date

at least the enhanced version

[flint token]

Oh wow

guess i’ll check him out

[winter belfry]

non enhanced version doesnt look too bad

[flint token]

snorefield be damned

[arctic panther]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158049223351222312/1435872026228428950/IMG_6136.gif

[dense cave]

So im a little confused on is2's "mantle of the wrongly condemned". It states thta it only appears after clearing the "ridiculous comedy" ending (aka big puppet). Does that mean i only need to clear it once and then on it has a chance to show up, or it only shows up on the very next run after completing the ridiculous comedy ending, and thus having to redo that ending everytime i want this ending?

[remote badger]

u clear one single time

[dense cave]

at what floor does the collectible show up

[remote badger]

about this i have no idea

[sly harness]

f1-f3

[unkempt lion]

Does anyone have tips for this is5 deep investigation? I've tried 5 times and can't even get past one stage

[low vortex]

Borrow Logos

or Tragodia too

Use Tragodia S3 after hes E2

[unkempt lion]

I couldn't do anything even with logos, maybe I can survive with tragodia as you say

[low vortex]

well not sure whats going wrong for you but

basically can spam S3s on both of them with Hand of Mystery

and Devilbane Banner

[unkempt lion]

Yeah but I can't get past stage 1 so I've never been able to promote logos

They're so tanky, I'll try promoted tragodia since I have him tho

[rough portal]

Heya. Does Raidian M2 need different squads?

[quick pond]

Almost done with all current endings on A12

What Operators from My Roster and future banners I should Consider making Endings 4 & 5 easier
Almost done with all current endings on A12

https://www.krooster.com/u/cute-maroon-eagle-62t3

[rough portal]

Anyone who can bind.

Tbh, Qiubai and Ethan are good.

Though Tragodia works better.

[rough portal]

Anyone?

[faint rampart]

[faint rampart]

M2? Which skill

[rough portal]

Yes.

She's currently S1M3 S2M1 and S3M1.

Do i need to clear it with different squad like one is Tourist squad the other is Support squad?

[faint rampart]

i mean

[quick pond]

Huh, didn't know Bind was that good

[faint rampart]

idek which IS

prolly just gonna assume is6

[rough portal]

IS6 yes.

[rough portal]

Yes it was that good.

[sly harness]

I don't think bind will be that important in IS6 (it is really big in IS5)

[faint rampart]

no i mean ididnt know qiubai is back in is6

[sly harness]

You can built Matterhorn for ed4

[rough portal]

Hit count counts.

She can hit a bunch of times with her S3.

[sly harness]

Ye but you have Ente on guard voucher

Or even generally better Leizi

[rough portal]

Btw, I thought we were talking about how to M2 Raidian.

[faint rampart]

._.

[faint rampart]

and if you mean qiubai then uhh this^

[sly harness]

SA alter and Pramanix alter are the most IS6 meta relevant upcoming operators

[rough portal]

Yeah.

Sakiko is my go to option for IS6.

Cuz Random bull GO!

[faint rampart]

[rough portal]

Also doesn't matter if you don't have DP gen.

Her trait makes it irreleveant.

[sly harness]

Ye but she is good when you have good collectibles without that...

[sly harness]

Also idk how real it will be but for now I see a lot of people trying Hoederer for IS6 ed5

And you can just build him because he is an IS5 goat

[quick pond]

Yeah I heard it was between Breacher, Sakiko, Reignfrost, and Prerita that'll be good for IS6

I'm still waiting Hanabi Exile Banner on ending so I can pull Breacher

[faint rampart]

so it was is5... thanks lukas

Uh oh

[quick pond]

I'm mostly just byilding for IS6 only

Additionally how good is Lemuen, I've seen some clears and outside of Wis'adel and Narantuya I don"t have much Snipers that seem reliable same for Medics and Guard

[rough portal]

Great at Single Target DPS.

[sly harness]

In IS6 you usually just Purestream and Rose Salt when it comes to medic. You won't play the carry options outside of Sniper/Medic squad

[sinful sparrow]

bullshit

qiubai is dogshit against hitcount

sakiko has way more hits and even then she feels questionable as hell to draft

before you give advice

can i ask what difficulty are you playing on?

[sly harness]

Although some true damage options can become useful in ed5 (just speculation, we will still need to wait some time for something specific when it comes to this fight)

[rough portal]

Currently trying to get M2 on Raidian S2 and S3.

[sinful sparrow]

[nocturne cape]

s2

[sinful sparrow]

ok draft qiubai and win

i will wait

😇

[sly harness]

And when it comes to Sniper you rarely need more than Narantuya and then you have Wisadel who is everything you need if you don't ban her. If you need more snipers Rosmontis is an option or Greyy is good if you get some scaling for him

[sinful sparrow]

a wisadel is all you need…

[sly harness]

Yes

[rough portal]

Tried. Died because of boss mechanics.

Targets ops with the most allies around them

[sinful sparrow]

Damn how broken

[sly harness]

Just use her for left with S2 and retret summon imminently

[nocturne cape]

you can retret her summons

[nocturne cape]

doesnt change the fact that her S2 is a fine hitcount

which is what's being argued here

[inland elbow]

Thorns for hitcount ez

[sly harness]

Thorns alter is probably fine

[inland elbow]

Can't wait for lemuen s2 to be the boss solve

[static dragon]

[sly harness]

it will surely be Hoe trust

[faint rampart]

[inland elbow]

💀

We'll break out the ulp s2 + haruka technology

Like it's gen content

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

[sinful sparrow]

???

Wtf

Slopp

[cold fjord]

draft logos quibai suzuran

[slate hull]

it is going to be really funny if the ed5 boss tech ends up being Yu s3

[sinful sparrow]

wtf :gigampreg:

[nocturne cape]

try raidian S1 for prereq

its been working well

[spare ermine]

I've been slacking on IS6 because I'm lazy but I E2'd my Raidian at least

[nocturne cape]

congrats

[sinful sparrow]

Raidian what

no shot

[nocturne cape]

S1 to tank the firebal

It’s physical damage

So your ass wont get nuked

[sinful sparrow]

broken

gonna try

[nocturne cape]

I did 3 prereqs today

2 leakless and 1 leak 5

Slowly learning this bs

[sinful sparrow]

im still figuring out how to get more relics

:mon3trsmug:

[nocturne cape]

Shop squad

[sinful sparrow]

alright sure, but this also means not robbing f3

[nocturne cape]

yes

you dont rob f3 anymore

on any squad

[sinful sparrow]

🥀

[arctic panther]

is it

[woeful anchor]

@nocturne cape how is ur is6dlc2 expereince

or are you not playing

[nocturne cape]

struggling

im playing yeah

[raw hemlock]

Guessing this is the ed3 node?

[floral mist]

Yes

[sinful sparrow]

omg cat

meow

[gaunt bay]

mreeeow!

[winter belfry]

rare haylie cat appearance

[nocturne cape]

@sinful sparrow

running it back

i have 2 fear relics

but i feel better about this

[brave moss]

can i rob f1 shop with tragodia and radian e1 in dif6 ?

[inland elbow]

Where's ur dp gen

[faint rampart]

psure you can

assuming its is6, i have no idea about others

[raw hemlock]

...huh?

[nocturne cape]

i sent all my dp gen to ed4

these are the leftovers

[brave moss]

it is IS6 yes.

is this worth it to play?

[faint rampart]

are you doing ed2/already got the relic for it?

[brave moss]

i dont have the relic for it and doing ed1 for the next radian proficient

[nocturne cape]

13 LP

this is the run

[faint rampart]

oh then you can gamble few ingots i guess (?)
assuming you dont have aspd ingot coin/chalice

[brave moss]

thanks

[brave moss]

what do you get from nian? (i realize it is nian just now)

[faint rampart]

iirc there's a specific relic called mother (something?)
random other relics
hope too

[gaunt lichen]

mother

[wanton rose]

mother

the band?

[sinful sparrow]

gl

145 or 245

[nocturne cape]

ty

245

currently winning

[sinful sparrow]

:MintHype:

[nocturne cape]

i found the best pram placement to kill the fireball

[faint rampart]

mother yes

[nocturne cape]

phase 1 done

[faint rampart]

wtf dp costs

[nocturne cape]

P2 killed

now if i lanehold i win

[dusk creek]

is m3 back

[inland elbow]

417 ingots

Also holy mylnar

Wait saki ew

[nocturne cape]

mlynar is better than leizi

confirmed

holy shit

[dusk creek]

prereq stage moment

[inland elbow]

How do you have 6 deploy with 80 relics

[nocturne cape]

only took 2 days

gg

[faint rampart]

congrats

[inland elbow]

Gz

[dusk creek]

roshype

[nocturne cape]

mlynar taunt came in clutch

he's the goat

[inland elbow]

Now do the fight consistently

[nocturne cape]

ofc

thats the next step

[lost anchor]

Do it relicless

[faint rampart]

raidian ban

[nocturne cape]

i think finding the pram placement is 80% of the fight solved

i wasnt able to let pram kill the fireballs before

mlynar taunt will always allow him to take 1 fireball

and the rest can be tanked by raidian summons

once fireball is solved stage is pretty straightforward

now ill try to attempt harder versions

[winter belfry]

do the hardest version next

[raw hemlock]

First time I've seen this map...

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/when-you-find-out-your-goat-still-has-it-when-you-find-out-your-goat-washed-meme-cars-lightning-mcqueen-gif-1139899672304549034

[faint rampart]

uhhh iirc its the three chinese dudes but alter map

[nocturne cape]

and their unlock order is reversed

this stage isnt neccessarily harder than the normal version

[faint rampart]

https://youtu.be/_kAd1Mgi20M?si=zUPscVYEQuXQ87k6

(Not to follow, just to see the map and enemies )

hmm, i had problems with the running dudes who require 3(or4?)block...prolly skill issue

[sinful sparrow]

how many sakichan did it take

[stray dove]

looks so much easier to defend that map compared to the hardest Ed5 version

[brave moss]

Option 3: All Operators deal +50% Physical and Arts damage to Apparition Enemies (Most Sui event enemies and IS6 enemies are of this type)

is this good for ed1?

[stray dove]

[winter belfry]

of course its good

[stray dove]

oooh triple boss alter. I hate that map

[nocturne cape]

Saki isnt all that important tbh

[raw hemlock]

my main problem right now is I'm trying a clear with tourist squad on d7
I've had three failed attempts of this so far tonight because I've had a wild mix of bad RNG, bad vouchers, bad coin tosses, bad shops, and everything in between