strategy

[wicked minnow]

so others buffing her is better ig

s3 is 250% atk scale and trait is 150% atk scale

she only has +8% atk in her entire kit

atk% buffs would go very well with her ye

[weak gazelle]

ya, just my random thought HG would drop some busted RI ops once every few banner

[wicked minnow]

the buff is just very low

even compared to class buffs from other operators

[weak gazelle]

yeah forget it
its useless

[wicked minnow]

ye

[weak gazelle]

its only about dp and her dmg

[wicked minnow]

she also has utility on s3

sluggish

slows enemy speed and i believe their attack animations

[weak gazelle]

ohh her sluggish can do that, hmm

[rustic eagle]

I think it’s skill CDs as well

[weak gazelle]

oh yeah which one limited, kal or closure?

[rustic eagle]

Actually is that tied to attack animations in the first place perhaps

[wicked minnow]

kal

testing rn with patriot

[azure roost]

@wicked minnow cant believed finish 4 acc s stage

i usually avoid ex and s stage on whatever en acc

but i need PO for skin

[weak gazelle]

i see
i just cant ignore kal2 s3, that shit was so good

[wicked minnow]

😭

[azure roost]

[wicked minnow]

s stage were very goober this time around

felt like ex stages

[azure roost]

@wicked minnow i mean this clear is so scuffed

since lapp2 s2 lacked damage to kill those exploding fucker

[wicked minnow]

[azure roost]

lapp2 s2 aint masteried

but if its mastery its enough to wreck all exploding in time

so hoe stay at spawncamp

instead getting exploded

[rustic eagle]

Im jealous of all u got either way

[azure roost]

@wicked minnow oh last 2 mastery on ave mujica acc

to max all JKs

except module

[wicked minnow]

JKs?

grinding multiple accounts is crazy bruh

also closure s3 seems to slow down attack animation but the time between attacks seems to be the same

[azure roost]

cn alt acc at 17-14 rn

i just rushed to clear chp16 lol

ngl closure s3 is very good

@wicked minnow oh ye like wtf my cn alt acc luck

[rustic eagle]

6 months is pain

[azure roost]

150
1 kal2
2 closure
1 w dupe

[wicked minnow]

damn

[azure roost]

why w dupe

i bought her on prev limited banner

using 200 pulls

[wicked minnow]

at least you got the units in a reasonable amout of pulls

oh

[azure roost]

[wicked minnow]

oh rip

[azure roost]

hoenslty idk if i can reach 200

if i reach it

i prob grab rostis

lol

[rustic eagle]

Why reach 200

[azure roost]

200 to spark rostis

[rustic eagle]

50 pulls tho…

[azure roost]

@wicked minnow what next event should be?

oh its should be nasti

ready ur hoshi2 s1

to cheese the boss

[rustic eagle]

It’s not that hard I hope is it

[wicked minnow]

czerny

gaming

[azure roost]

u prob get fucked by platform mechanics

me when i destroyed whole platform

[rustic eagle]

Wdym

[glass monolith]

Exu2 event - "Where map?"
Nasti event - "Where floor?"

[rustic eagle]

Doesn’t sound reassuring

[wary onyx]

this stage is so hard

[azure roost]

tf is that pram

[glass monolith]

Wrong screenshot, you should have showcased some poor squad struggling with killing enemies at last moment inside blue box

[rustic eagle]

Wdym

[wary onyx]

idk..

[rustic eagle]

I placed her there as well

[weak gazelle]

ohh this one
uhhh its about kill deer fast i think if want to reduce avalanche as min as possible

[rustic eagle]

I killed the beginning with pram and then just dpammmed avalanches and sash S2 for the rest

[weak gazelle]

can do that too because there a reason why ranged tile are 2 tiles min

[daring cloak]

its really not

you can use pram and ascalon to solo right side and just focus on killing the left

in fact you can simply ulpianus left side

[elder flume]

Still think wrong Pram placement

Sub optimal ig

[still cipher]

Hey guys I’m following kyostinv’s video for OS S 4, why does my ulpianus die so fast but his survives? My ulpianus should be exactly the same, module 3 level 90

[elder flume]

Wht else does he bring

[glass monolith]

Can you give link to video because one video youtube found DONT have Ulp on S-4

[elder flume]

Oh its Gladiia as per usual

[heavy mason]

I’m having lots of trouble deploying hoshi2 in os s 5 cm to area kill the bats. Any tips?

[maiden hound]

why not borrow an ela for left lane

[cedar hound]

Typhon facing left is enough
Add ines if you have

[heavy mason]

Cause I’m borrowing Wisadel 😭

[heavy mason]

Do yoy think I can stall for time by getting cheap marksman snipers?

[noble pewter]

show roster

[heavy mason]

Ok

[heavy mason]

I got desperate

[plucky flint]

you got too many snipers for no reason

[heavy mason]

Yeah to kill the bags

[plucky flint]

what else do you have

[heavy mason]

One sec

[rustic eagle]

Sakiko

[rustic eagle]

You don’t need Wis

You have pram

[hidden axle]

Adnachiel spotlight damn

[heavy mason]

Kk

[noble pewter]

do u have cheap robot or cheap unit, 3dp or sth

[heavy mason]

https://www.krooster.com/u/mrvoacodos

[rustic eagle]

Oh wait you lack alter sash

[heavy mason]

Yeah I do

[heavy mason]

I do

[rustic eagle]

Mb brain didn’t brain there

[heavy mason]

He’s the only reason this stray works

[rustic eagle]

I meant alter

[heavy mason]

I have salter

[rustic eagle]

Oh

Im also blind lol

Then yea should be easy

[heavy mason]

Lancet

So just borrow typhoon or sakiko?

[rustic eagle]

Why typhoon

[heavy mason]

For left side

[rustic eagle]

Annoying having her on ranged tiles there tho

I would rather use sakiko

Actually you have exodus idk if it matters tbh lol

[noble pewter]

nah i think the wis is good borrow

[rustic eagle]

But yea sakiko clears all the bats and the guards in mid

[noble pewter]

u just do silver2 s3 exchange dp deploy silver1 at left side

[rustic eagle]

(With some contribution from pram ice tiles )

[heavy mason]

That’s the issue

[noble pewter]

then later reinforce him with ur lappland s2

[heavy mason]

Oh

Sonova

[noble pewter]

pram2 n wis at middle is enuf kill everyone else

[heavy mason]

I’ll try both strats

[heavy mason]

S3?

[noble pewter]

then u have all the other slots to use whatever u want

[rustic eagle]

I did it with fucking slum with sakiko

You got it

[noble pewter]

yes pram2 s3 the 3rd deploy after silver2 n silver1

to charge up

use skill immediately moment u see ice cube coming

[heavy mason]

Nice then, welp I’ll go shove adnachiel back to base slave

[noble pewter]

she can tank suicide exploder cause she has self regen

but when the wave is coming or reindeer coming wis must have skill ready

then u blow them all up at spawn

[rustic eagle]

Tbf you can also delay her S3 so that it kills the deer that comes right after

[rustic eagle]

Her second life refreshes everytime she gets shifted

[noble pewter]

oh yes u can delay the activation as well i guess cause lures the enemy come to u he wont leak

[rustic eagle]

You do lose your reborn to guards death damage tho

She doesn’t get enough time to regen from the first one

So depends ig

Well you can avoid all avalanches by just deploying hoshi there ig

[noble pewter]

bring a healer to do some healing if u need to

if dmg is not enuf try sneak a guardmiya top right for atk buff

[rustic eagle]

Technically pram doesn’t kill the ice cubes without mastery

On CM

[heavy mason]

Yeah that’s the issue I only have her s7

[rustic eagle]

Just use sash or whatever

[heavy mason]

For sakiko is it s2 or 3?

[rustic eagle]

S2

At least that’s if you want her to do it all by herself

For you that doesn’t have to be the case tho

[heavy mason]

Nice, but does she have to be m3?

[noble pewter]

ya wis bullet 1 or 2

[rustic eagle]

Idk I borrowed her

Didn’t bother trying below M3 lol

[heavy mason]

I’ll try then

[noble pewter]

or thrmx cube b4 do skill

[rustic eagle]

#salt-mines message

From left side she handles all the guards and she can kill the last deer with fever as well as long as you block it for a short time

[heavy mason]

Gotcha

[rustic eagle]

You might have an easier way to it tho you have more resources

[plucky flint]

@heavy mason spare me with my 5 vgs, I don't have sash

[rustic eagle]

lmaoooooo

[plucky flint]

try to spawncamp middle red box, try to burst deer so Hoshi won't get pushed

u can bring Myrtle matsu sa2 and get a better dp than me

[elder flume]

Rope is enough if your deer killing is bad

Just dont pull the guards

[plucky flint]

I forgor cancel shift

[half forge]

Aight wth is OS-EX-6

[hidden axle]

Its when hg said fuck it this event is too easy I cant make it harder with mechanics alone, time to make it hwrder by screwing with map layout

[pearl compass]

You won't believe this...

PramaAlter and Wis will duo this stage alone.

[limpid ore]

duo
alone
english is died

[glass monolith]

look inside. E2 texas vanguard

[pearl compass]

I have disrespect to it.

[trail wren]

it's a wis solo stage

[half forge]

I can only borrow one

[half forge]

How

[limpid ore]

just tragodia solo it smh

[half forge]

Is it the tile on the left corner

[limpid ore]

deploy on middle tile, wait 3 minutes for the bats to take flight, s3 nuke, profit

[half forge]

Oooohh

[limpid ore]

[half forge]

They fly after some time

Aight tysm

[limpid ore]

it's 1 minute and 30 seconds in 2x speed

[half forge]

The map looks scary tho

I quit 1st try

[plucky grove]

first try i woke up all the rocks and wondered why the stage was hard

[rustic eagle]

Wis alone is enough

[heavy mason]

Bruhhh I’m tryinggg

[rustic eagle]

Did u pull it off

[heavy mason]

I failed so much I’m going outside for a run

[rustic eagle]

running is great

[heavy mason]

Hopefully that will regain my skill

[rustic eagle]

Did you try with saki

What caused problems

[heavy mason]

I did, even with s2, bats are too tanky

[rustic eagle]

Maybe masteries needed?

If you said you lacked them

Can’t you try helping with another unit maybe

[heavy mason]

I tried kroos, too weak

[rustic eagle]

or also just do as fyril did tbh

[heavy mason]

Yeah I’ll just copy them

[noble pewter]

r u using the sakiko s2 arts or phy, i recommend phy cause it pierce n bat weak to phy

[rustic eagle]

Yuh all enemies actually

That saki is gonna hit

[noble pewter]

u can sneak in one more guard after sakiko deployed with the silver2 s3

[heavy mason]

No clue, I’m just clicking

[heavy mason]

Kk

[noble pewter]

if u clicked u are using arts

so dont click

[rustic eagle]

It’s a mode swap

[noble pewter]

just deploy n let her use default phy dmg is better

[rustic eagle]

You’re not supposed to click

Unless maybe building fever faster?

[noble pewter]

cause the bats in a straight line n many target, the default phy pierce dmg is much better

[rustic eagle]

Also you can borrow saki ig

[noble pewter]

i tried ur lappland n silver1 is not enuf to protect left lane, even if supported by kroos etc

so u better borrow the strongest sakiko in the world

[heavy mason]

Yeah I feel my pain

[noble pewter]

n just use ur other units deal with middle

[rustic eagle]

Pram and saki are enough

And some random blockers for last deer

[elder flume]

AoE is preferred for left lane if not using Sakiko Ela Tachanka Iana

too much aerial spam with 8k hp isnt nice

[heavy mason]

Gotcha kk

I’ll run it

[indigo helm]

os-s-2 (thorns is support)

i start with capper and exu to kill the bats at the top

...because caper on her own can't kill (one) bat

[noble pewter]

why would u borrow a thorns n not like a wis

[indigo helm]

...range

i need a lord on that tile

[noble pewter]

switch sakiko n hoshi position maybe?

[indigo helm]

tho i guess if I just hold Hoshi alter skill she can take the flying abstards

[noble pewter]

this way hoshi is self sustain n u dont need babysit with a thorn to do dmg

[indigo helm]

mhmmm

[noble pewter]

hoshi can hit air with s3

[hidden axle]

5 stars have 3-oped this btw

[indigo helm]

what about the legion of bats

can she hit them from that tile?

[noble pewter]

n sakiko is protected by the haruka n can do s3 to shred ice cubes

[noble pewter]

yes hoshi is big range n can hit air

u can conserve the skill cause she can block 3 land unit

[plucky flint]

can't u just use sakiko S3 in thorns position and maybe borrow a better op like trag or something

[indigo helm]

yeah I know she can hit air but I seee

[noble pewter]

n the doodoo birds shud not bypass her

u using the thorn cause u cant let sakiko tank dmg right

u have caper to cover as well u deploy hoshi last she can draw aggro too

[indigo helm]

maybe I can place wis on right side so she can deal with the trash mobs

[plucky flint]

why bring leizi if ur not even deploying her

[noble pewter]

n if u borrow a wis u can park it near blue bx n blow everything up anyways ya

[indigo helm]

I lowkey FORGORT

but I think if I place leizi alt on right side it might work

[noble pewter]

maybe u can even use exu s3 n redeploy ur sakiko/hoshi to spam s3 if emergency or sth

[plucky flint]

and there's a free tile here that you're not using

this is just placement issue ngl, no need for borrow even

[noble pewter]

ya

[indigo helm]

well so thats a problem

if i use hoshi skill I doubt I can trigger it again

okay this might work

[heavy mason]

I BEAT IT goofy ah strategy

[indigo helm]

ayup

got it

:)

[indigo helm]

matsuriki with only two defenders...

huh...

[plucky flint]

here's your cm

[indigo helm]

random silverash

https://tenor.com/bTPpbwzwHdD.gif

good to know tho

saw this and just

https://tenor.com/c0k9g1WGJnn.gif

[plucky flint]

I don't have leizi smh

[heavy mason]

Bro carried hush

[indigo helm]

this will be annoying.

[maiden hound]

pallas carry

[indigo helm]

i'm guessing

i have to

lanehold normally

then nuke all of the mushrooms

I guess I need SOME executors

i was right but i wan out of laneholders

left guys leak first

so I need to killsome at the right too

hhhh

since those mushroom guys have lots of defense maybe true dmg would be nice here

[earnest bobcat]

That was an interesting map to find a solution for.

[indigo helm]

thank you texas alter.

[plucky flint]

is this a bug

[indigo helm]

what is the bug

all i see was an avalanche

[plucky flint]

exactly

[indigo helm]

fym exactly

[plucky flint]

it pierced the shroom

[indigo helm]

oh lol

what the fuck?

[pearl compass]

I actually hate event mechanic due to its difficulty (to cope and clear with braindead).

[noble pewter]

could we just use roberta shield to block the true dmg push

[elder flume]

if not pushed yes

since the damage is done during deployment

can use summons to act as a wall so they dont get shifted instead

for shrooms theres frames where its not rooted iirc

[noble pewter]

what does this mean?

[elder flume]

.

35 seconds in

i used Weedy cannon to act as a wall

so mid lane wouldnt shift

[noble pewter]

hmm is it only can work for unkillable summons?

[elder flume]

all

or ig if it can withstand 5k true sure

[pearl compass]

I was about to ask how are all didn't die by Avalanche

[noble pewter]

the agent person

[pearl compass]

But I remember Chilchuck has Environment Counter talent.

Fuck

Should've get him

[elder flume]

P2W char

[indigo helm]

this will be a pain

def need an agent/lord

two of them, at that.

okay off to a great fucking start

[nocturne cove]

contrail?

[indigo helm]

oh

right

true.

oh bomboclat.

[nocturne cove]

huh

lol

[indigo helm]

tbh

sakiko can solo wiuth skill 2

lol

[rustic eagle]

Im so happy im done

[rustic eagle]

Yuh and kill the guards on middle aswl

[indigo helm]

problem is middle

[nocturne cove]

middle is easy

raidian s3

[indigo helm]

aswl?

[rustic eagle]

As well

[indigo helm]

oop

[nocturne cove]

also

saki is a guard so gl

oh are you doing normal one

glgl

[rustic eagle]

Sash S3

[nocturne cove]

sorry man my banner luck was dogshit

got neither

[elder flume]

borrow Ela frfr

[nocturne cove]

i use gladiia for left

[rustic eagle]

Ela is annoying to keep alive

[indigo helm]

how

the fuck

I'm supposed to keep the middle lane alive without being destroyed by avalanches

[rustic eagle]

What units have u got again

[nocturne cove]

devices

[indigo helm]

if you can't use guard in CM how do you even clear this because you need an agent here lol

unless sentinel defender or whatever

[nocturne cove]

the cost is doubled

[indigo helm]

snow removal system

aaah

[nocturne cove]

for guards and defenders

lol

[indigo helm]

was abt to say

not gonna do cm regardless but good to know

[rustic eagle]

[nocturne cove]

why not

pussy

[rustic eagle]

Mind sending your units again

[indigo helm]

lazy

dont mind gravek

realized those snipers targets lowest def

and

yeah

[rustic eagle]

Oh you have saki already

And a billion other things

[nocturne cove]

the stage is still annoying lol

[indigo helm]

^

[nocturne cove]

cant exu2 hold middle?

she wont die from avalanche

just heal her

[rustic eagle]

I think you can legit just fucking hold everyone hostage outside of the avalanche zone with hoshi2 lol

[nocturne cove]

forgot this wasnt cm

yeah

true

hoshi alone wont

so maybe drop exu2

[rustic eagle]

Well solo solo probably not you need at least something for the deers to not send her to burundi

[nocturne cove]

leizi2 s3 works well for right lane

[indigo helm]

yeah

[nocturne cove]

idk how no mod affects tho

i hope you got masteries

[rustic eagle]

You can probably have logos help aswl either way

If it’s not enough

[nocturne cove]

12 slots!

[rustic eagle]

Wdym?

[nocturne cove]

im agreeing with you

[rustic eagle]

Oh but why 12 slots

Like "use all your ops"?

[astral cosmos]

remember channel rule 4 for unnecessary media applies here too

[leaden sierra]

Also wow, I've been sleeping on stainless. He's cool

[rustic eagle]

The best offense is defense aaaaa

[indigo helm]

oh my god bro

yeah the avalanche just fucking rapes me

sends the enemies past my guards

i can't do anything

[astral cosmos]

love it when people can't read

[nocturne cove]

love when one cant even react

i hate ako mods fr

expressing emotions feel like a crime

also why did you delete the video

[indigo helm]

done.

[indigo helm]

that rule is fucking gay.

[nocturne cove]

w

[indigo helm]

anyways i shall now rest for 30000 years

[nocturne cove]

cm

[indigo helm]

never

[nocturne cove]

pussy

[leaden sierra]

it started as an answer to a question. Someone was asking if they can tank patriot with Cuora. So I decided to tank him with Beagle to prove a point. But now I wanna do it with Friston.

[indigo helm]

you cannot ragebait me

[rustic eagle]

hes just stating something

[nocturne cove]

ahh

[leaden sierra]

also ty Minus, Stainless was the answer all along

[nocturne cove]

enfeeble can help too

no?

[indigo helm]

now do on combat matrix

[leaden sierra]

Tin Man was on S1, so we had 30% I think. There are others, but he's more consistent.

[leaden sierra]

that was risk 15 btw (he only gets 50 ASPD, the rest is the same, but it's the H stage stats). Anyway, I'll do a proper post once Frison tanks him. Already did the math:

1252*(1+0.3+0.25) - (2000*(1.7-0.3-0.4-0.22)-305*(1))*4*(1-0.36)*(1-0.3)*(1-0.28)*(1-0.15)

It's very doable.

[indigo helm]

this high level shit ain't for me.

[lunar crane]

so in h16-4 could we let the bear finish the boss?

[craggy heron]

yep

but kinda hard to lure it there

[leaden sierra]

Yup, easiest way is to use Yu to teleport them into each other's face.

[lunar crane]

damn i already borrowed trago cant borrow anymore 😅

i think im onto something here , so in order to lure the bear towards boss i need to clear top side so i could deploy someone up there , and after deploying i need to deal some dmg to the bear while hes in the middle , and then bear would follow the pathing towards me and boom he got to the boss

oh well that was just my assumption ig , figure i could try it out

[elder flume]

pretty much

lord guards typically used

need to slow Yuro down or else they run away

[safe basalt]

I'm trying to clear OS-7 and I'm having troubles dealing with the Snowcaps that come up along the left side, they're protecting the first 2 rows from being Avalanched and so far my attempts to use Firewhistle and Shirayuki to kill them have been very unsucessful.

[sterile peak]

use caster?

[spark idol]

shira's a caster wdym lol

[safe basalt]

Shirayuki is not, she's a Sniper, does she have an Alter?

[glass monolith]

Good old "stack until it works, if it don't work on max possible stack do something else"

[astral cosmos]

she has arts dmg on s2

[drowsy heart]

Just use Steward and Orchid or something, any Arts.

Very cheesable stage.
(Not optimal but it works.)
https://youtu.be/P74tpT2KJYU

[sterile peak]

Lava should be able to solo them

[safe basalt]

I really just don't know how best to deal with this mission. I have 6 safe ground tiles and 2 safe Ranged Tiles,

[astral cosmos]

what's your squad

because firewhistle + some ground dps duo that stage

[elder flume]

Enlarge your view of tiles

Its fine to be in avalanche range

[safe basalt]

This is what I'm bringing currently, though I'm not attached to anyone but Specter, Specter is performing fantastically so long as she can Block her targets.

[safe basalt]

I get that much, but I don't have either the understanding, or the operators I need to handle downside of the Avalanche zone.

[spark idol]

Oh now this makes much more sense.

It's a lot of a mechanics for a new player for sure.
E1 promote Shirayuki; you won't regret it.

[elder flume]

Your levels are too low ye
Its gona be a lot of sacrificing

[drowsy heart]

As Record said, Firewhistle should take care of the mushrooms very well. Then you just need someone for the right side, for example any Defender and Pinecone/Lava/etc...

[astral cosmos]

uh, that firewhistle won't do anything

[elder flume]

Else just borrow one of these and follow

https://en.arkrec.com/operation/OS-7+焚心灼影

[safe basalt]

tbh, the Firewhistle is actually doing kind of ok work, it's just that there is a second set of snowcaps that come.

[elder flume]

If you can kill 1 of wave 2 shroom its prob enough

[safe basalt]

If I'm honest, I have absolutely no clue if the Snowcaps will die, I keep losing to the swath of guys that come up along the 3 left lanes.

[elder flume]

Ye without it you only have 2 lanes to burst

Need to spam ops to get avalanche going there

[safe basalt]

Are there any operators that can resist the Avalanche's movement effect?

[astral cosmos]

no

[elder flume]

Summons can by taking 5k true damage ig

Since they cant be moved

[astral cosmos]

i mean fair ye

[fleet edge]

I don’t think you’re replacing Ptilopsis anytime soon so feel free to get attached to her and her SP battery passive too

[elder flume]

E0 gaming is something i cant simulate for others

[fleet edge]

Ptilopsis and Saria should stay in your roster for a very long time

[safe basalt]

E0

[fleet edge]

Yea feel free to eventually E2 her
Even e0 should give 0.15sp a second I believe?

[elder flume]

0

No talent until E1

[fleet edge]

Yea get it to e1 then

15% faster sp gen

[wind crown]

Would this talent proc with Silverash alter?

[elder flume]

No

Gravel talent counts innate

[wind crown]

Ah got it thx

[fleet edge]

Gravel module passive is so weird

If only she cut her own redeployment time

[safe basalt]

Oh, no, to be clear, I'm reffering specifically to the mission in question, I have a very different loadout for more traditional missions.

[drowsy heart]

Not too hard.

[fleet edge]

You don’t need to care about killing the mushrooms till later

Just block the enemies and kill them in the 2 tiles where they can get hit with the snowstorm

[elder flume]

Damn Ely killing that snowball

[fleet edge]

And use the device where you can kill them using the device

[drowsy heart]

Click needs to be deployed like three times, but otherwise until the end nothing really tricky. Just need to use the Avalanche Triggers at the right time.

Before the first pair of mushrooms Root themselves you can already remove half their health with an Avalanche Trigger if you use it right when they exit the red box.

Otherwise use them before the turtles reach the blockers.

[fleet edge]

I just use the devices on the turtles when they get above the mushroom lanes

[safe basalt]

I have an operator named Jaye, do you think he would provide much charge to the Avalanche?

[fleet edge]

Just use the device to manually trigger the avalanche

[drowsy heart]

Goldenglow can replace Click, Saria can replace any of the Defenders, Hoederer can just be used when any side needs some support, Pinecone is better than Kichisei (not to mention mine is Lv. 1), and Myrtle replaced Elysium (to be placed first).

[drowsy heart]

All Operators provide 3 SP when placed.

[drowsy heart]

Turtles are incapacitated essentially the entire time so no healers required.

(I sacrificed my last 60k LMD for this.)

[safe basalt]

Is there any reason why Specter is in the Middle column?

[drowsy heart]

Doesn't matter really, just that any AoE takes care of the left-most lane so no other damage is needed there. Pinecone, Lava, etc...

[safe basalt]

Gotcha.

[drowsy heart]

Click/Goldenglow/Steward/Orchid/similar can be placed diagonally from Firewhistle to shoot down the first mushroom with ease, should survive one avalanche and afterwards just redeploy to help kill the next set.

[safe basalt]

Couldn't I use the Snowcaps against the enemy by placing an operator to their left that can damage them while shielded by the Snowcaps?

[drowsy heart]

They can attack surrounding operators.

What Skill level does your Firewhistle have?

[safe basalt]

... What about using Humus? He has an AOE attack that can heal him, and if I'm going to be triggering the avalanche just as the Snowcaps come out, then he should be able to be pushed onto the ranged tiles, right?

[drowsy heart]

He won't be healing enough.

Also isn't necessary with Firewhistle and any ranged Arts damage.

[safe basalt]

Rank 3.

[drowsy heart]

Should be fine, mine is at 2.

Also the Snowcaps have 600 Defense meaning any Physical hit deals -600 damage (minimum 5%), but 0 Resistance meaning Arts damage is dealt fully (Resistance is multiplicative too, not subtractive like Defense, so 10 RES for example is -10% Arts damage).

[wintry hinge]

💀

[glass monolith]

Thank god i can completely ignore boss snowballs for like 99% of map

[wintry hinge]

-20 as0d scares me

[drowsy heart]

25% increase in Attack Interval, isn't that bad.

[wintry hinge]

really?

[plucky flint]

no way you aren't clearing that with those ops

[daring cloak]

os8 is easy

ulpianus carry

why are you on ulpi s3

use s2

also where is gladiia

[exotic grove]

who needs gladiia with that roster

[daring cloak]

and sakiko should have 1 good sniper to be safe for left side

[plucky flint]

bro suggesting the bad skill and bad ops 💀

[exotic grove]

sakichan should have her module at lv2 or higher

[daring cloak]

I mean why make it hard for urself when ulpi s2 can solo middle afk with gladia anyway

[plucky flint]

clicking skills is hard

[drowsy heart]

You should be having a really easy time with it to be honest. Especially Yato should do well since it is a multi-tile boss I think?

[daring cloak]

its 1 more thing to worry about for lazy players

[plucky flint]

not the best guide you can say but you do you

[hidden axle]

Isnt middle lane the avalabche zone oh wait this is ex8

[wintry hinge]

Problem is make enemies no enter inside altars to not make golems

[hidden axle]

If you still struggle despite this roster, hoshi2 and exu2 can duo the stage

[wintry hinge]

No exu2

[drowsy heart]

Huh? It's just three lanes.

[hidden axle]

Does your government tax you on borrowing units

[daring cloak]

borrow

[wintry hinge]

nope

[fringe solstice]

I don't have ulpianus so idk if s2 or s3 is better for this stage

surely it doesn't matter

[drowsy heart]

Any two of Hoshiguma, Ulpianus, Sakiko, or maybe even Mountain should be able to deal with the left side. Right side just needs some anti-air and burst for the moose I think, Pramanix and a healer can do it for example.

[cinder vector]

what are we not clearing with this

[hidden axle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jg1XBxEmS

Yato2 and wisadel duohttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Bx1QBxEqP

[wintry hinge]

I use Mountain + Thorns but im bit thight on dp to the birds as I need Eyjalter to make either lapp2 and Logos to survive

[hidden axle]

Wisadel and hoshi2 duo
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1YC19BQE4n

[daring cloak]

cant sakiko solo it with module

[hidden axle]

Yato2 and tex2 duo
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12MCNBeERh

[daring cloak]

or just send 1 more unit if she cant for you

[wintry hinge]

No high enoigh trust

[hidden axle]

Go copy any one of your liking

[wintry hinge]

to ulpianus and Sakiko

[wintry hinge]

not fan of guide copying

so much

[cinder vector]

ok so

[hidden axle]

Then stop having skill issue with that stacked of a roster

[cinder vector]

what do u want us to tell u

[hidden axle]

End of the day what we do here js similar to a 'guide'

[drowsy heart]

Bring more Vanguards then....

[exotic grove]

yeah if you're attentive ulpipi s3 should be fine for moose

sakichan uika mutsumi should handle left side fine
ok nvm uika gets mogged
just put sussurro or ptilo or something then, as long as they don't die to the ice blast
then mid can be mlynar hoshi alt

[drowsy heart]

Kal'tsit and Mon3tr can probably handle the ground birds or something too, dunno.

[wary shuttle]

will flying make you immune to the boss snowballs

[tight osprey]

how to beat h8-4?

I don't like talulah aoe atk

[fringe solstice]

tank all lanes with good healing like ng or haruka or logos s3 timing

[drowsy heart]

-# Or bring five Medics.
-# (That's what I did.)

[fringe solstice]

I think I did something similar to kyo strat years ago with specter, surtr, and ng

[pale grove]

Guys any tips or tricks for h15-4?

I don't have any brute force op like wis or hold down op like shu so any way?

I'm hella clueless cause i ain't leveling up any specialist op to hold the enemy in the upper lane

[exotic grove]

boss snowball explosions hit leizi and contrail so no

[umbral kite]

do you have sash2?

[pale grove]

Eh who?

[drowsy heart]

What's your roster?

[umbral kite]

silverash the reignfrost

[pale grove]

Oh yea i have him

[umbral kite]

https://youtu.be/LNxjEB_GGRQ?si=Fhuh03v8_XEpatOg

[umbral kite]

actually i think theres a 1p relay of h15-4 that oneshots prts like this

lemme check

[pale grove]

https://www.krooster.com/u/dnha

Here

[pale grove]

There is?

[umbral kite]

https://youtu.be/NPYqW1KpLIs?si=1ySWxKxawhG2A_r5

ok it uses ela fragile but it should still do alot to prts

0:50

[pale grove]

Let me just ask one thing

How

It gone like

2 second?

Damn

[umbral kite]

make sure ulpi has 2 slashes of salter's s2, then deploy ulpi and wait for i think a second or so? then activate skill

the attack boost from the skill will buff the slashes a ton and do wis levels of damage

[drowsy heart]

Multi-tile boss so it interacts in funny ways with certain AoE attacks.

I think.

[umbral kite]

and that

[pale grove]

So basically my job now is survive till i can trigger the combo?

[umbral kite]

the timing might be hard to get down though, im still not sure i can get it right

you'll be fine probably

[pale grove]

I found out that monst3r can clear 2/3 of the lil bot hp

[umbral kite]

saki can also kill it in one skill activation with the debuff pad activated

[pale grove]

What?

Hold up

The normal s3 or the mugical s3?

[cinder vector]

mugical

[pale grove]

Hm....that's why there is a strat about her

[exotic grove]

is there any op with lower def than typhon that can be used as bait
she has the same def as my e0lv1 verdant bro

[fringe solstice]

most likely surtr or sakiko would damage the boss with mon3tr or pram2 s3 for mini boss

[pale grove]

Still i don't level up enough member to refill mugical that fast

[pale grove]

Wait pram2 can actually did some dmg ?

[pale grove]

Eh how that work?

[somber falcon]

Crushers

[fringe solstice]

s3 ignores res and it lures and give her a bunch of attack, pretty sure it will work

[drowsy heart]

You can also sort Operators by Defense.

[exotic grove]

wait genius
let's see if e0 lv1 ulpipi can tank

[pale grove]

I thought you said about s2

[somber falcon]

No

[drowsy heart]

Some enemies have special targeting priority, the archers in OS-S-5 for example target the operators with lowest Defense.

[pale grove]

I don't have any crushers op type...

[cinder vector]

buy one

[exotic grove]

nvm guards have double dp cost

[pale grove]

Or the bear?

[somber falcon]

That's for him not you
Aren't you doing h15-4

[drowsy heart]

The bear targets the ally who attacked it last in the first phase and the ally who dealt the most damage in the second, yes.

[pale grove]

I listened first then try when i have a lot of options

[exotic grove]

is 12f the only one with <106 def that has some survivability and isn't a zillion dp

[somber falcon]

You're listening to a solution to an entirely different problem

[umbral kite]

normal

and it can do alot without the pad active

[pale grove]

Basically yall are veteran in this game so all tricks are useful

[fringe solstice]

I think hoshi2 and narantuya is enough for the other enemies you can borrow wisadel or someone else to help out @pale grove

[azure roost]

finally alt acc cn 17-18 done

[drowsy heart]

Purestream at E2L10 has 97 Defense if that's relevant?

[umbral kite]

oh boy, another bear situation?

[azure roost]

nah

[pale grove]

Hoshi2 s2 and narantuya s1 right?

[umbral kite]

oh

[fringe solstice]

ye

[azure roost]

final boss of chp17

[pale grove]

Still it will be useful for me in the future, isn't it?

[azure roost]

[drowsy heart]

-# Ask then.

[pale grove]

Thx for testing(and why she almost dead?)

[exotic grove]

mine is e2lv40 she has 128
testing if she can outheal the dmg
she can't

[umbral kite]

the laser from the mimic machine does a ton of damage

[cinder vector]

this with monster buff no

[umbral kite]

they have mon3 and i dont think the buff does enough to change the outcome

[pale grove]

I thought the lazer can be disable with enable the pad?

[umbral kite]

it can

[drowsy heart]

Who are you using to kill the archers anyway?

[umbral kite]

look at the bottom right pad though

its not taken

[drowsy heart]

Also neutral pads are affected, and you can't activate them if they don't have SP.

[fringe solstice]

tbh timing the pad with phase 2 start is tricky

[exotic grove]

haven't gotten there yet I just really wanna see if typhon can handle bats on left

[drowsy heart]

My Lemuen kept dying before I got the timing right due to the lasers.

[pale grove]

Alr i guess i will try 2 strat
-ulpi + ash2 combo
-mugical nuke

[umbral kite]

yeah you're just better off praying the timing works out or nuking the machine

[drowsy heart]

Well if you kill them quick enough they won't be as much of an issue for everyone else. Any Agent Vanguard should manage for example.

[somber falcon]

Sakiko s2l7 already solos the bats

[exotic grove]

yeah but that's boring I did that already I wanna use typhon

[umbral kite]

make sure saki doesnt hit the boss itself though because she'll refill its sp like crazy

[fringe solstice]

and you cannot click it right away since the boss disables interaction for like 10 secs

[pale grove]

If i failed yall gonna see me asking on here again

[pale grove]

What?

[umbral kite]

have a healer next to typhon

[umbral kite]

when the boss takes damage it gains 1 sp

[exotic grove]

that's what I'm trying but I'm super dp limited
gonna try borrowing saileach or something idk

[umbral kite]

when it reaches max sp(the meter under its healthbar) it stops being vulnerable

[umbral kite]

sash2

[pale grove]

So i have to be quick?

[exotic grove]

can he outgen saileach flagpipe?

[umbral kite]

how much dp does that combo generate?

[somber falcon]

Sa2 with s3 can quickly kill the early snipers while giving some dp
S2 can also work but it'd take like 3 slashes at m3

[drowsy heart]

-# I did Surfer > SilverAsh > Myrtle for DP.

[fringe solstice]

iirc virtuosa is the easiest way to damage the boss without debuffs but requires killgate abuse

[pale grove]

So things to notice are:
-rng timing the pad
-nuke the boss but don't let the boss put on the shield
-don't die
-kill the lil bot?

[umbral kite]

killing the little bot makes the big bot vulnerable

when the big bot gets back up the little bot regens its hp and you have to kill it again to make the boss vulnerable again

[pale grove]

Hm...what about the combo in the vid?

It insta kill the boss tho?

[umbral kite]

should take off a big chunk of health

[umbral kite]

that was with fragile applied by ela, and skadi did some damage too

[pale grove]

Oh so i can't do that

Alr duly noted

[umbral kite]

it'll still do a lot without

you just wont be able to 1 cycle it probably

[exotic grove]

ok it worked with myrtle thanks
seems like typhon can't handle bats without help
skill down and she's basically useless xD and her 2nd activation takes too long without assistance

[cinder vector]

people when they realize typhoon is kinda useless

[exotic grove]

well that was very clear even before I bought her lmao
and spell her name right

[umbral kite]

surely is mod will save her

[fringe solstice]

she's great for anni

[exotic grove]

is there a way to stop sashter from making snegurochka 38dp

[umbral kite]

bring someone cheaper

like a robot or smth

[exotic grove]

thanks
idk how his kit works because I'm never gonna build him

[drowsy heart]

...

[umbral kite]

why

[exotic grove]

I don't build male ops if they're not femboys or absolutely critical to base infrastructure
sorry

[fringe solstice]

But you are using sa2 right?

[umbral kite]

cant wait for femboy sash2 skin for 7.5 anni

[cinder vector]

sa2 is femboy

anyone is femboy if u believe hard enuff

[exotic grove]

if I need to borrow them to test something I don't have an issue with that my homies chill
but I ain't building him

[cinder vector]

ulpian is femboy, he has stockings in his skin!!!

[exotic grove]

also seems like sneggy might need s2m3 to support enough

[azure roost]

sneg u

[drowsy heart]

Snegurochka can kill the archers at E1L40.

[azure roost]

if u need m6 sneg

add me

[exotic grove]

I'm using her to slow the bats

[azure roost]

[drowsy heart]

Damn.

[exotic grove]

wait fr 🥹

[azure roost]

os 5 @exotic grove

?

[exotic grove]

yea

[azure roost]

u not using support right? or just need sneg

[exotic grove]

ah shit wait
I am using support

[azure roost]

[fringe solstice]

bro forgot he borrowing sa2

[azure roost]

smh

just get ur own sa2

[exotic grove]

tell typhon to get her fat dp hoggin melons off my roster

[azure roost]

oh what ur roster on os 5

🤔

[exotic grove]

I just wanna test if typhon s2 can handle bats alone when s2 is permanently on

[azure roost]

mmm

cm?

since extra stat

[exotic grove]

lowkey might just slap sakichan s2 until her s2 is up atp

[fringe solstice]

do you have shu?

[azure roost]

saki chan on bats with healing def is enough

@exotic grove or be me

i use tippi and chanka

to handle the bats

[exotic grove]

tippi kinda smart hmm

[cinder vector]

use stainless for SP

to get it up before the bats can kill her

[exotic grove]

no shu no stainless

[cinder vector]

what the flip

[exotic grove]

lol it's ok I think I got it now
thanks for the suggestions

[azure roost]

@exotic grove ryphon prob get fucked early because of hunter

god i forgot how abyssmal her def is

[exotic grove]

lol right
so she can handle the bats on her own when s2 is up but without a solid midlaner like ulpipi or something holding at top tile she gets mogged by suicide bombers (even with haruka s2)
and idk if ulpi s2 can handle the moose

[azure roost]

u need stunner for moose and gladiia x module for healing and damage mitigation

[exotic grove]

do we even have afk stunners

[azure roost]

but if u can kill moose fast then aint problem @exotic grove

[exotic grove]

wisadel?

[azure roost]

s1

just use other form of stun

[drowsy heart]

(Kroos the Keen Glint can Stun too.)

[azure roost]

or cs s3

when moose is up

but be wary of avalanche

cd

when using cs

[exotic grove]

yeah lyudmila probably not the best solution plus not afk
I mean she'll be fine but everyone else sitting in mid won't

[azure roost]

just kill the moose fast

@exotic grove who handle middle lane?

[exotic grove]

I was thinking krooster too but idk if her stun is reliable enough
probably ulpianus s2
I just don't have him built so can't test if borrowing sashter

[azure roost]

oh wow 5★ recruit jumpscare

free cert

oh its red

use red for s2 stun

jk

[umbral kite]

helidrop pram on the moose

[azure roost]

@exotic grove

scuffed clear on whatever alt

ngl just use hoe s2

[spark idol]

I was trying to use Pallas to stun os-s-5 CM moose,
but then she and Quartz+Lapp just murdered it too fast to matter.

[azure roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1498953727783080037/Screenshot_20260429-101226.jpg?ex=69f8f7b1&is=69f7a631&hm=cb95ac16fb22ceea5e9ec218fb743814d0b50518a724f190e3254fc8d08ac670&

here the alt acc clear that use tippi and chanka

[exotic grove]

lol
tippi putting in the work
is quartz lapp combo afk
and is that lappy guard or lapptop

[azure roost]

lapp2 on s2 to handle exploding guys waves at end

hoe on s2 for stun

[exotic grove]

oh no I meant for the quartz lappy combo lol
oh yeah their boom is silenceable huh

[azure roost]

it can work

but how ur healing?

[exotic grove]

is haruka s2 not enough

[azure roost]

then its enough

quartz lvl doe

?

[weak gazelle]

typhon stun moose

[azure roost]

arkny dalao

do my tft

[weak gazelle]

no thanks :ya:

[spark idol]

My clear was very not AFK

(btw Underflow here is really not necessary; Contrail doesn't need that much help, with Ptilopsis there)

[exotic grove]

yeah might honestly be better to just use typhon for mid and sakichan for left

[weak gazelle]

or want more schizo, gummy stun

[azure roost]

wtf gummy stun proc gaming

[spark idol]

Except Cuora + aoe healer holds right lane super easy

[exotic grove]

wow these clears are so based

[umbral kite]

s-5 is anti-afk in general for most teams

[azure roost]

u likely use more ops in role compression

to solve lanes

i just afk it on main acc

[weak gazelle]

if consider thorns afk then he handle left side (with s3 obv) lol

[exotic grove]

yea s5 so lame smh
just a bunch of annoying trash mobs

[azure roost]

gummy can handle those ice cubes

[umbral kite]

genuinely what was hg thinking

[azure roost]

since there wind up attack is long anyway

[spark idol]

It's super straightforward compared to that Masses boss holyyyyy

[exotic grove]

MT boss was hella fun tho

[azure roost]

what MT again

[exotic grove]

masses' travels
let them asses travel

[nocturne cove]

masses travel

[fringe solstice]

exu2 event

[nocturne cove]

when new skyranger

[umbral kite]

next event trust

[nocturne cove]

who are the candidates

hmm

[umbral kite]

the 6* skyranger will totally be there

[nocturne cove]

ros alt

[drowsy heart]

Mandragora...

[pale grove]

Alr the ulpi + ash2 fail due to lack of knowledge

By somehow my ulpi ain't have s3 on deploy?

Like he ain't instantly activate his s3?

[umbral kite]

did you make sure he had 2 slashes before deploying?

[pale grove]

Yes?

He got from 26 to 13

[umbral kite]

he is 1 sp away from activating his skill when deploying with slashes(assuming he has s3m3)

[fringe solstice]

it's m1 iirc

[pale grove]

I borrow a upli that have s3mx3

[umbral kite]

what dp is he at when you deploy him

[pale grove]

Like normally

Need like 4~5 sec

To use his s3

[umbral kite]

normal dp cost?

[pale grove]

Ah no dp mb 13

13 dp

[nocturne cove]

why is dp a concern here

[pale grove]

I read it wrong with skill

[umbral kite]

he should have the sp boost

[umbral kite]

sash2

[pale grove]

He did tho

Cut his dp to half

[nocturne cove]

so just activate it

[umbral kite]

oh then he should be able to activate it almost instantly

[nocturne cove]

sp

[pale grove]

What did i did wrong huh....

[nocturne cove]

idk

is this IS?

[pale grove]

Ah no h15-4

[umbral kite]

lemme try, give me a moment

[pale grove]

Ah sure

Meanwwhile i will try the strat again then

[umbral kite]

ignore the -1

@pale grove

[pale grove]

Hey....

Ulpin can be down to 3 dp

[umbral kite]

he can go down to 0 dp

everyone can with sash2 s2

[pale grove]

I just test the strat again and ulpin can be down to 3 dp but he ain't have any instant dp

[umbral kite]

what does your sash2 look like

[umbral kite]

like his op screen

[drowsy heart]

And your Ulpianus?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Very stable for auto, click to gg, 12f doable with pinecone

[pale grove]

I have none...

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh its uploaded

[drowsy heart]

...he needs S3M3.

[umbral kite]

thats why

[pale grove]

Eh?

[umbral kite]

i thought you said he was s3m3

[drowsy heart]

S3M3 changes SP to 20/25 from 15/28.

[foggy grove]

that's s3m0

[pale grove]

S3mx3 yes

[foggy grove]

pain peko

[weak gazelle]

[umbral kite]

s3 mod3??

[elder flume]

That clearly says 7 not 3

[drowsy heart]

SilverAsh gives +4 SP meaning at S3M3 Ulpianus starts with 24/25 SP. SilverAsh's S2 slashes activate 1.1s after deployment.

[pale grove]

Oh

[foggy grove]

m is mastery

[weak gazelle]

grind that support page until met ulpi s3m3 :ya:

[pale grove]

Not mod?

[foggy grove]

no

[pale grove]

Right so that's why

[umbral kite]

lv90 s3m3 mod3

[fringe solstice]

mastery was first so it got m

[pale grove]

I thought it was module...

[pale grove]

And look like i can't?

Because i already have an ulpi(borrowed one) so he won't show up anymore?

[umbral kite]

other people's ulpis can still show up

even if you already have a friend with one

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u mark that ppl as buddy it will keep appear

[pale grove]

Ah no i didn't

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u need s3m3 ulpi i can add u

[pale grove]

Eh? Sure

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ur id

[fringe solstice]

did the update for removed support restrictions come already?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

[umbral kite]

it came with pramalter event

[viral ridge]

wait how does that work

[exotic grove]

if you mark the friend as a buddy it will show them first unless you refresh*

[scarlet fulcrum]

Friend page, click the star on bottom left

[pale grove]

Dnha#2900

[scarlet fulcrum]

Omw

[plucky flint]

posting this shit again in case anyone got an explanation for this

[viral ridge]

finally i don't have to reset 50 times to get a max pot wis

[drowsy heart]

The barriers when disappearing create an unprotected tile where avalanches can originate from again.

[plucky flint]

still why it interacts like that

[drowsy heart]

Spaghetti code. Probably whenever an avalanche occurs it checks the entire avalanche area for any Avalanche barriers and force-removes them, creating an unprotected area even if something else would be protecting it.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sent

[pale grove]

Added, thx buddy

[scarlet fulcrum]

nw

[pale grove]

Now i'm goin into hell again

[umbral kite]

the wind forgot the mushroom was there or smth

[pale grove]

And also any suggestion for the def lane

[umbral kite]

the what

[pale grove]

Cause i don't know why but i keep leaking

Lemme

[umbral kite]

the middle lanes?

[pale grove]

Did a run

[drowsy heart]

If I had to make a guess whenever an Avalanche barrier is placed or a Snowcap Roots itself all the tiles behind it are flagged as 'protected', and when either one is removed then everything behind it is forcibly marked as 'unprotected' regardless of any still existing sources of protection (because it probably isn't dynamic).

[pale grove]

Wait a bit

[nocturne cove]

we need to find this guy and do something

s2m3

and not s3m3

[sour sable]

It was probably the wind

[pale grove]

Wow wow chill

[umbral kite]

i see that alot for some reason

[pale grove]

Imma get killed first ya know

[nocturne cove]

it is fine

but s3m3 first

[sour sable]

Afkslop

[drowsy heart]

#help message
Like the 'protection' doesn't disappear for Pramanix here but only for the tiles the barrier was on and behind it.

[pale grove]

Here

The middle lane yea

And when into phase 2 it gonna be the silverash lane

[umbral kite]

pramalter

[umbral kite]

thorns probably

[pale grove]

And also i use monst3r to hit the lil bot

[pale grove]

So replace lizkarm into thorn?

[plucky flint]

looks like it'll just be unprotected upto until another shroom got hit again

AK getting more sloppy coding

[umbral kite]

keep liskarm, put thorns where mon3 is

[elder flume]

Blame HG for having

every 0.01s retrigger root
every 0.01s retrigger stop

[drowsy heart]

Always was.

Lunacub can't be attacked by enemies on that one Episode 15 stage even when blocking an enemy because of something related to enemies needing a certain flag to be able to do so as well as how her Camouflage is coded.