help

[wraith shoal]

in wish fullfilled it gives you an extra option, and if you're at 1lp it gives you the king relics

[abstract mauve]

oh. this is different from regular leader squad im used to 😭

[nova oak]

so i should go for 1lp?

[coarse notch]

yes, is5 gameplay stays at 1 lp permanently

[abstract mauve]

you are running leader squad you cant really do that effectively

[nova oak]

so i should be at the yellow state of thought right

[wraith shoal]

there's also the king of sarkaz set which seems to work well with the king set

[coarse notch]

stack shields by combining inspirers so you can still leak without dying

[rain forge]

If you’re worried about dying then stack up shield since shield doesn’t affect lifepoint conditionals

or y’know don’t leak

[nova oak]

[drifting prairie]

once you get your third king item it will also do this automatically for you

[coarse notch]

the issue is that king of sarkaz is mutually exclusive with kings unless you roll visage on command lvl6+

[nova oak]

what's... history explorer

[wraith shoal]

what does visage do again?

[coarse notch]

the skill tree
use support squad for now

[coarse notch]

set max lp to 1

ok basically, lamp gives you relics based on your run state
if an operator has a relic for their class, it gives you it
if you're at 1 lp, it gives you kings relics, which gives massive buffs when you're at 1 lp
if you have a certain number of ingots, it gives you relics that grant atkspd based on ingots own
etc etc
these relics are awarded in wish fulfilled nodes

[nova oak]

oh so lamp is basically subjective to my run? like it tries to give me the best relics based on how my run is going

oh im doing this guy hes hot

[coarse notch]

thats the simplest way to understand it yea

[drifting prairie]

hes hot and op

[nova oak]

LOL hydrogen bomb hydrogen bomb coughing baby

[ancient current]

make sure to use #is-station for any blogging about IS

[wheat saddle]

do you guys know if mon3tr banner is going to rerun

[coarse notch]

its not

[drifting prairie]

i thought they rerun at least once?

[wraith shoal]

is it any different if i get king set early and do the combat nodes later than getting 1 relic each floor?

[sand aurora]

Does sp regen effect stacks? One sp regen aura from ptilopsis and the other one is a self sp battery, like sp regen provides by modules

[coarse notch]

the combat nodes later on are much harder

[wraith shoal]

king set though so a gazillion aspd and damage

[coarse notch]

depends on the source but if they're different types of sp regen they stack

[coarse notch]

no hope/relics/vouchers tho so you have 4 operators when certain stages require specific solutions

[drifting prairie]

just make sure you hit 1 or 2 safehouse nodes as you go up

[nova oak]

so shrivel is good yes?

[coarse notch]

im assuming they're actually going for ed2 on d18

[sand aurora]

The sp regen per second thing, +0.3 sp from ptilopsis and +0.1 sp regen from thorns2 module

[coarse notch]

if they just want to speedrun on lower diff then fuck it refresh everything

[coarse notch]

that stacks

overrefreshing is a very bad habit built up from lamp cheesing lower diff
you want to take many combats as humanly possible early on to scale up while refreshing for lamp relics just enough to keep you alive

[timber finch]

you can do every storyteller records in a row in old is?
with no penalty or anything?

[wraith sentinel]

I believe standard operators that were part of limited banners, or debuted on Episode/Vignette releases don't get a proper rerun but rather only appear on stuff like Orienteering?

[coarse notch]

all of them are open permanently yes

[drifting prairie]

what are episode/vignette releases?

[timber finch]

so.. free rewards.. i shall oblige i guess

[coarse notch]

ch15, fantasy in the mirage, etc

[wraith sentinel]

Episodes are main story, Vignettes are the stuff you unlock with Information Fragments.

[drifting prairie]

monst3r was one of those? i didn't know that

[coarse notch]

mon3tr was the ch15 operator

[wraith shoal]

yeah but who I'm picking from the vouchers is too restrictive since I'll have to get the hand of the class of the op I pick,so I'll have to reroll more nodes to get the set

[wraith sentinel]

(For some more context, Vignette events release with stages that don't rerun unlike with normal events, only the story records are permanent.)

[coarse notch]

usually you stay in the class of the hand you bring or you take operators with no hand

[drifting prairie]

good to know, good to know

[coarse notch]

handmixing is fine outside of more challenging runs but the idea of minimizing refreshes to just enough to keep you alive is the same

as long as you end up with 3 kings by the end of f5

[drifting prairie]

the king relics are the most important, you ca just start taking combat once you get them, wish nodes after them are usually diminishing returns

plus you can have shrivel lol

[mystic badger]

Is Ptilopsis still the best SP battery?

[coarse notch]

not really
but sp batteries arent really a huge thing anyways

[drifting prairie]

i think haruka might be better?

[coarse notch]

haruka sp sucks ass

[drifting prairie]

oop, well her moedule helps a bit

[mystic badger]

I know. I don't need one. Just curious.

[severe crypt]

Her ass sp gen IS from that mod

[coarse notch]

she has no sp gen outside of the mod and its very low even if you assume her bubbles are being popped immediately

[wraith shoal]

so basically take 1 relic each floor and on f4 rob, reroll into wf and get the aspd relic?

[ancient current]

technically heidi has +0.5 sp/s in her own chapter

[wraith sentinel]

Liskarm and Warfarin best SP batteries.

[coarse notch]

f5 rob is fine too
you're inexperienced with the rob so its fine to get full kings before robbing tbh

[wraith shoal]

I'm experienced in losing the rob

[coarse notch]

and no need to go for perfection, even getting 80 ingots total for toy is huge

[wraith shoal]

how does it work anyway? Do I just kill cannot and get all the stuff or something?

[nova oak]

so is5 has thoughts, what does is6 have?

[wraith shoal]

tongbao, coins basically

[coarse notch]

you need to kill cannot and every chest that spawns

[wraith shoal]

infinite duration stage or do I have time limits?

[coarse notch]

you also need to let him spawn his chests at 75% and 50% hp without stunning him so wis isnt great

[coarse notch]

hes unblockable so you have until he walks into your bluebox

i think just hand + kings is enough for ed2/3 if you play it well enough but if you want to attempt the rob i highly recommend reading/watching a guide

[ancient current]

freeze and levitate also disable his chest spawning

don't do that either

[vast estuary]

Hi hi
How do I stack marvel or investor stacks in protocol alliance? It's the only mission left in that mission list for me to clear for now so

[vital kelp]

#stronghold-hall

[wraith shoal]

i'll just go raw for the first time ig, no hard to get to f4 again anyway

[sullen loom]

Top only?

[ancient current]

slow can get you suzu, specialist could get you weedy i guess

[nova nest]

Ifrit is guaranteed, Suzuran is a 50/50, both options sound slightly better than just an average Top operator

[glad linden]

Is muelsyse worth building for a veteran account in 2026 , what does she bring to the table

[turbid ocean]

Mumu is niche
She brings high bind up time on skill

[obsidian steeple]

hi, i just came back to the game after like 4 years and was looking if there was a recommended guide to put up to date. There are like a million new things lol

[turbid ocean]

New account? Pins for newbie guides

Old account? Most questions probably also answered in pins -> Also make krooster.com account to share your roster.

[lusty prawn]

is meslyuses worth getting for ash alter

[turbid ocean]

sash alt?
No

Mumus not worth getting for most people
But she does have a niche technically

[old pilot]

What's the cheapest stage to do Cliffheart's Module task for sinking 2 enemies per stage for 5 stages?

[lofty vale]

Kal2s3 honestly feels like the better version of getting operator to zero cost

[polar hollow]

hi I need a healer with big comfy range is lumen a good candidate for this?

[old pilot]

Yes.

[vital kelp]

no

[sullen loom]

What tag for ifrit? I hate the 50/50

[vital kelp]

id rather use purestream

[turbid ocean]

Purestream is better for the wallet

[nova nest]

Debuff

[turbid ocean]

Lumen is poor value

[vital kelp]

other than raising lumen for incredibly expensive price and not much better

[nova nest]

Though there were two new operators in pool, Kal'tsit and somebody else, let me check if calculator is wrong

[polar hollow]

is purestream e2 s2 good enough for hard content though

[vital kelp]

depends on how hard

[turbid ocean]

You wouldn't use suboptimal medics on hard content

Purestream is used on IS5 ED4 though

[vital kelp]

healer is healer afterall, it depends on ur dps

[lofty vale]

Not the cheapest but since you will eventually need more guard/specialist chips, the guard specialist chip stage should be the best imo

[nova nest]

Yep, Top+Debuff

[vital kelp]

i did hear from another person that u can do module in SSS

theres one mama john one with holes and crabs i think

[turbid ocean]

Technically purestream is better than Lumen directly for IS because resource cost is serious issue
Get ModY1

Extra levels on purestream mod is worth it too

[vital kelp]

i mean, hard content... why would u need a "big comfy range"

comfy kinda opposite to hard no?

[turbid ocean]

It is

Its not about comfy for hard content
its either required or not

[humble nova]

Soo how good is Viy?

[drowsy timber]

Which module good for lumen

[lofty vale]

I don’t understand half the chat putting their pulls in their username

[humble nova]

The one that removes the negative passive of his healing range

[vital kelp]

how else am i supposed to show off max pot sakiko

[frail thunder]

Its their way of calling us poor unlucky peasants

[vital kelp]

free 6 star
male
mystic

u already know

[lofty vale]

It’s the opposite if ur rich you really won’t care that much about spending many pulls

[frail thunder]

Yeah but there’s the rich then there’s the rich rich

[drowsy timber]

Then theres RICH rich rich

[vital kelp]

cough cough theres literally a mod in chat this should go offtopic

[humble nova]

Well there was a lot of hype on his preview. Prob due to one shotting certain bosses but idk

[vital kelp]

hes ass

like absolutely ass

[obsidian steeple]

is there a way to automatically update all my chars to krooster.com or do i have to do it manually?

[vital kelp]

worse than eben is crazy

[humble nova]

Damn actually?! 🥀

[frail thunder]

You can import but forces you to kind of login

It doesn’t do anything and everyone did it if it concerns you

[humble nova]

I THOUGHT HE WAS BETTER?!? Nooo 💔

[vital kelp]

bro has one dream and its Stronghold protocol season 3

[lofty vale]

One of the features I really wanted for a long time in AK was to preview materials needed in game

Gonna be like 20th anniversary before we see that QoL at this rate

[vital kelp]

i dont actually know if better/worse than eben ig, they both in the mid/bad bracket tho

but yeah, hes bad

no niche with dream whatsoever unlike silencealt either

[turbid ocean]

You run the import feature to automatically retrieve your roster data
It does not stay updated, you will need to hit import again when things change

[old pilot]

@lofty vale
@vital kelp
Thanks for the suggestions.

[haughty zenith]

guys i was told that the anniversary gives a 6 star selector! i'm a new player so i'm wondering when the next anni will be.

[vital kelp]

6 month

[lofty vale]

6 months

[vital kelp]

ya all just finished half anni so

[final mauve]

that feeling when i was fighting for 3 days with OS-S-4 and OS-EX-8 to reach OS-S-5 and i have nothing to lvl up units 🙁

[haughty zenith]

wait this was half anni

[vital kelp]

yeah

[haughty zenith]

what did we get? lol

[vital kelp]

pram alter and sash alter

[lofty vale]

24 free pulls on sash banner ig

[turbid ocean]

half anni for CN

not EN

[wraith sentinel]

Also some Kernel pulls.

[haughty zenith]

aah so that was it i though that it was normal for limited banners

[turbid ocean]

EN half anni is in summer

[vital kelp]

... its still half anni for en if counting from launch date no

[turbid ocean]

EN Anni is january

[frail thunder]

It is

[turbid ocean]

Do the math

[haughty zenith]

so is there anything special we get from half anni?

[frail thunder]

A limited banner

[haughty zenith]

that's not a gift lol

[lofty vale]

No..? We get limited banners
Which gives the stuff

[frail thunder]

Well if you call nuking everything with prapra alter not a gift then i don’t know what is

[haughty zenith]

for a reward for half anni you get to spend money!!! lol

[haughty zenith]

i don't like broken characters so i'm not pulling on limited banenrs

[lofty vale]

Nah the limited banners always come with quite a lot of stuff

[vital kelp]

is this a take of all times

[dense walrus]

Free Wang for a week would be nice

[haughty zenith]

I'm sure there's a lot of people who don't like overpowered characters. that's a pretty commun take to have

[fervent shuttle]

Guys when again will return Odda?

[dense walrus]

For someone who owns wisadel, and exu2 to not like wang would be a brain fart.

[haughty zenith]

i don't like Wissadel or exxu i tried them once on support feature and i'll probably never try them again

[timber finch]

there is a good lot of limited characters that arent broken btw

[vital kelp]

limited has no correlation with overpower whatsoever

[frail thunder]

Well if you’re a new player without any of the newer stuff goodluck playing new content

[haughty zenith]

i'm a new player so i don't really know, but all the Limiteds i tired were very much deploy them and win kind of characters which is not why i really like arknights

[pallid basin]

returning player, what do i do?

[lofty vale]

Uh what’s the context drifting towards

[dense walrus]

Isn't the general rule of Arknights that you can beat anything with even the year 1 operators

[timber finch]

people still beat bear with 3 stars

[frail thunder]

Yes it is true but they said they’re new players

[vital kelp]

play the game the same way u did before u left

[lofty vale]

I cleared all the way through chapter 16 using a 4 year old roster

[timber finch]

nothing different from a new or old player if using the same units, just strategize more

[pallid basin]

which on the headhunting selection banner shouldi choose? dont have any of them neither the 5 too

[vital kelp]

how is bro gonna get a 4 yo roster being a newbie

[haughty zenith]

i'm 2 weeks in and i made it to chapter 5 with this team and i'm doing fine in event stages besides EX 8 that i couldn't beat

i did borrow a support character a couple of times but i don't think you need win button characters to clear the content

[sharp fable]

aren't the only limiteds that are like this wisadel and exusiai the new covenant and maybe togawa sakiko, hoshiguma the breacher, ela, ch'en the holungday, and lappland the decadenza?

[timber finch]

said the title of everyone but the dog's, poor girl

[drifting prairie]

lappalt is not a deploy and win, neither is chen alter

[sharp fable]

thats why i said maybe

[frail thunder]

Chen was on release

[lofty vale]

Chen Alter used to be the standard for broken

[proven kelp]

The only drop and win is Wis, maybe to an extent Exu2

Everyone else isn't that braindead

[drifting prairie]

the only current braindead ops are wis and wang imo

[abstract mauve]

exu2 and tragodia can be equally braindead

[drifting prairie]

exu2 maybe but trag you kinda need a little brainpower?

[timber finch]

i agree for tragodia tbh
placing the cat isnt that hard

[worldly carbon]

for a newbie lappalter is just deploy and erase the map
good damage + global in gen content prob means enemies will just be deleted
unless there's a thing that's invincible in the map

[lofty vale]

brain power being to spam cats at enemies

[haughty zenith]

btw i have Ulpianous and Tragodia that i got at 20 pity into the orient banner which i pulled because i wanted firewhistle and Gracebearer that i got at 60 pity. 40 pulls after the 6 stars lol. From what i played of the game so far including the event EX stages and IS, i don't think that you need broken 6 stars to clear the content. Especially once i level my character to e2 and such

[worldly carbon]

takes brainpower to know the cat has lure 😔

[proven kelp]

I mean, Trag is like Wang lite

You just drop his cat on things you don't like and they become a non threat anymore
They either get crippled outright from Nervous Impairment, or die from Elemental Dmg

[drifting prairie]

for a newbie you can say that abt a lot of diff 6* tho, not that they have global range, but that they will carry the stage

[proven kelp]

Brainpower only comes to play when you're in high end content where you NEED to stall

[haughty zenith]

yeah which is why i'm not using him. i have more fun this way

[sharp fable]

so tl;dr not all limiteds are broken @haughty zenith

[worldly carbon]

look at dusk

[proven kelp]

Yes
They're not built equally

[drifting prairie]

half the limiteds are like ahh lol

[haughty zenith]

i can't say that because i don't know lol but i won't pull for broken characters since i enjoy the game more without overly powerful stuff, limited or standard

[lofty vale]

It’s the same kind of equality that billionaires say they have with peasants

[sharp fable]

[drifting prairie]

*1/3

[worldly carbon]

half the old limited didn't age well, that's pretty much it

[obtuse obsidian]

some did not even born well

[lofty vale]

Having powerful stuff is fine
You should probably build them as well and decide when or when not to use them

[worldly carbon]

virtuosa is just a myth

[haughty zenith]

the characters i want to get next though is Nastie. I feel like she gives a lot of creativity to how you approach stages

[proven kelp]

Wang Yu SA2 should have not been born, they pollute the pool

[drifting prairie]

Nastie is really sick

[obtuse obsidian]

wow only 3 of the 4 males limiteds

fae hating fell off

[haughty zenith]

also i like Coldshot and she would make perfect tiles for her lol

[lofty vale]

Nasti is probably one of my fav

[proven kelp]

There's a 4th?

[obtuse obsidian]

chongus

[proven kelp]

Holy fuck I forgot his existence

[worldly carbon]

deploy tower deploy pram2
strategy

[haughty zenith]

i also really like the Ascalon skin so i might get ascalon xD

[drifting prairie]

Shu is my fav limited, so goated

[lofty vale]

My Ifrit lane is made up of Nasti and defenders in the middle of nowhere

[daring shard]

dalao

[lofty vale]

Ah yes a very big space with literally nowhere to place ranged units
Looks like an Ifrit lane to me

[undone portal]

very excited for nasti/ch'3n technologies

[reef sparrow]

playing RA are we

[sterile stag]

What is more priority, mod1 -> mod3 wis, mod1 -> mod3 mlynar or mod1 for texalter?

[unique dragon]

i have phantom p2 already do i just gamble for random

[proven kelp]

1 Wis 3 Mlynar 3 Wis 1 Texalter

[undone portal]

and i would wait for texalt 2nd mod

[proven kelp]

Might as well, not like you have much of a choice

[obtuse obsidian]

you can skip texas to module 2 probably

[sterile stag]

Thanks

[undone portal]

yea this is kinda sad yolo it

[lofty vale]

Eh 6 months is a very long time to wait
Mod 1 for 10% attack isn’t that big of a loss

[obtuse obsidian]

top op cant be sad

thats 10 gold certs bro

[sterile stag]

How long till it's release? About 7 months?

[unique dragon]

got weedy

[undone portal]

cn/global gap is 6months ish

[lofty vale]

“Sad”
Mf with top op

[proven kelp]

Came looking for copper, got Diamond instead

[sterile stag]

Yeah, but it's not out on cn yet i think

[undone portal]

it is, ch17 already dropped

[lofty vale]

6 months is a super long time to wait to save 4 modules
Just get Texas mod 1 and don’t upgrade it it’s fine lol

[undone portal]

4 modblocks is .. kinda a significant amount of modblocks icl

[sterile stag]

Yeah, that's what i was thinking, thanks for help everyone

[lofty vale]

Sure but you’re talking about 6 months in a video game

[sterile stag]

I have like... 80 and no opps to build

[obtuse obsidian]

not like the 10% attack matter on current module

[sterile stag]

Except for those i mentioned above

[coarse notch]

wait for texas 2nd mod please

[snow siren]

Yay I got her!

[undone portal]

the aspd on 2nd mod is really nice for s2 and the dp refund is good regardless of skill. more notable utility than what 1st mod gives
youll appreciate having the modblocks available for someone else later

[lofty vale]

This isn’t like planning for your retirement
It’s a game you’re meant to enjoy
Waiting 6 months to save on 4 modules is

[coarse notch]

mody is so ass
just leave her modless

[wraith flicker]

when is the next best opportunity to get mon3tr

[keen osprey]

Is it worth to build gladiia?

[undone portal]

next orienteering might have her, if global keeps her in

[floral epoch]

Which spalter module is better, x or y?

[coarse notch]

modx3

[undone portal]

not particularly unless youre a huge ulpianus fan

[floral epoch]

Gotcha

[wraith shoal]

nice mate, but no blogging here

[coarse notch]

if you're okay with shelling out 30 bucks, the 6 star selector in october
otherwise wait for an orienteering that has her

[obtuse obsidian]

its less about mod x is better

and more about mod y have no use already

[undone portal]

x if youre running her by herself
y if alongside other abyssal hunters
alpha if in is

[floral epoch]

Oh spalter's new module is for IS?

[worldly carbon]

in just a few months

[floral epoch]

is the new Typhon module also IS?

[worldly carbon]

I wonder if spalter IS module is good...

[vital kelp]

not

[obtuse obsidian]

its not

[worldly carbon]

thanks not-useless

[urban sleet]

Neither is mids are good

[obtuse obsidian]

surely the ground silence alter will have a use in IS7

[floral epoch]

Aw, what?

[urban sleet]

surelh

[undone portal]

typhon mod is sorta mid. gives her dodge ignore and a mini multitarget splash on hit but doesnt raise her dph by enough to help her match modern snipers
spectalt mod is slightly less mid. gives temporary immortality to ops in surrounding 8tiles and doubles the speed of her doll dot

[worldly carbon]

spalter is already kinda mid as far as I know

[snow siren]

Oh...

[blissful island]

do I still buy pots in event shop even if I can't get them all?

[vital kelp]

yes

[undone portal]

any certs at all next year will be nice

[wraith shoal]

though I'm with you, glasgow gang really is fire

[vital kelp]

though im not with you, delphine is kinda ass

[undone portal]

delphines design is incredible, but this is not the place to blog

[obtuse obsidian]

lowkey module X still better unless we get the one time niche use of immortality

not like we drafting this mf anyway

[wraith shoal]

she buffs siege in base so

[undone portal]

yea the real issue remains that she has to compete in spec voucher

i do think the doubled dot is nice for hitcount stuff in is6

[obtuse obsidian]

she dont get sp recovery on revive like X so think X still better in IS

its sad she did not get mizuki alpha treatment where he get his X but better

[obtuse obsidian]

i was hoping she become better ascalon not be worst one

[wraith shoal]

the real disaster about those units are the useless talents they gave them

[undone portal]

yea i still have no clue what they were cooking with the arc2 story welfares

thank our king that they decided against it for civ.eterna

[vital kelp]

well welfare kinda just whatever leftover they get from a random talent generator or something, they pick out the good ones to put in good char, the mid one throw in between, then the bad ones straight into welfare

[obtuse obsidian]

the only welfare that make you interested are modern IS ones

[vital kelp]

or just not enuff numbers

[wraith shoal]

yeah man but they have chapter specific talents. Like anyone is replaying the story

[undone portal]

heidi being ptilopsis powercreep.. in ch10 waow

[vital kelp]

they'll be good if their numbers are good

imagine if nyamu is +100% attack and 140% fragile she'd be broken

[undone portal]

and other self-evident examples

if everyone had wangs multipliers then yea im sure theyd be broken too

[vital kelp]

the talents themselves arent the issue, its the lack of numbers

theres no bad talent if one could just buff its numbers

[wraith shoal]

those talents kinda are the issue, since it's basically a wasted talent slot

[undone portal]

low numbers, overly restrictive conditions, bad synergy with skills. many potential factors at play in bad kit design

[obtuse obsidian]

5 stars have only one talent

those story ops have 2 no?

[undone portal]

tbf 5stars usually only get 1 talent unless they get blessed with a 2nd one through chapter welfare status or their module
or are a member of hit band ave mujica

[vital kelp]

trap master gets one extra too i think

can deploy trap is a talent

[wraith shoal]

kestrel has 2 as well, though idk if it's an RA specific one

[undone portal]

yes, though only with modules. trapmasters have to spend their first talent on laying out specifics on how their traps work

[reef sparrow]

there's normal ops like blitz, liskarm, pram having 2 talents asw

[undone portal]

kestrel 2nd talent is ra specific, automatically puts carried materials into backpack

[obtuse obsidian]

noir is part of the band some how

[undone portal]

forgot about rathalos noir lol. theres a lot more examples clearly

point is, the norm is 1 talent for 5stars

[wraith shoal]

it's a trait no?

[obtuse obsidian]

frost only have 1

[undone portal]

its built into talent, trapmaster talent 1s always specify how many traps they can deploy/retain at once

[dense walrus]

Does hypergraph plan to release the remaining Sui siblings as playable characters?

[vital kelp]

probably

[undone portal]

[obtuse obsidian]

they release one a year so far

[vital kelp]

it makes them money so i dont see why they'd stop

[wraith shoal]

we got 5 more years of arknights guaranteed

[undone portal]

theyll find a reason to bring jie back from the dead surely

[wraith shoal]

sui alters after that

[vital kelp]

is talent

[obtuse obsidian]

i see one talent

[wraith shoal]

yeah just checked cause idk this language, missed it

[vital kelp]

i closed game already so i cant even tell any more

[dense walrus]

more money than non sui operators or just in general

[vital kelp]

its hard to judge, but they sell good merch wise

[undone portal]

suiblings are among their bestsellers historically

cn playerbase likes the loving depictions of cn culture in their cn game

[dense walrus]

wtf seriously?

so i guess wang will be powercrept by the next sibling next year 😭

[wraith sentinel]

...

[wraith shoal]

doesnt work like that. Yu didnt powercreep shu

[undone portal]

what makes you think the next suibling will do what he does

[wraith sentinel]

Why is powercreep such an obsession, also different roles.

[obtuse obsidian]

who knows

maybe its another de*nder

[vital kelp]

sui caster pls im begging u

[undone portal]

legit i genuinely do not think ak wouldve gone as far as it has if nian banner didnt basically jumpstart their budget

[left tulip]

Wdym we have dusk already

[dense walrus]

i was reading the wikia and one of the sui names translates to "flying" or something similar, does that mean they plan to give take off to a sui 😂

[obtuse obsidian]

they do now

[vital kelp]

we dont know

[bronze osprey]

hei guys one question, I am a returning player. Is it worth to trade saria with yellow cert in todays meta. If i recall correctly, Saria use to be so op.

[ancient current]

absolutely not

[vital kelp]

(was she ever op?)

[ancient current]

and to be fair she wasnt worth certing even 5 years ago

[urban sleet]

Saria was never 'op'

[undone portal]

shes always just been pretty good

wouldnt cert for her unless you love her. especially now that Better Saria (read: shu) exists

[leaden yoke]

Anyone knows which one is the pc launcher?

[vital kelp]

u cant really obtain shu as a returning player

[leaden yoke]

taptap I guess?

[wraith sentinel]

Just three more months until Shu...

[urban sleet]

Skillfully off-rate her

[vital kelp]

taptap is window and blue is emulator

[undone portal]

kinda exactly what happened for me so, nonzero chance but its true, saria is much more accessible

[vital kelp]

the first one is also PC download

[leaden yoke]

I see, gonna try the first one to see what happens I guess. ty

[bronze osprey]

oh thanks!

[obtuse obsidian]

np

[vital kelp]

huh

i wouldnt recommend sparking shu

[dense anvil]

is typhon IS module good?

[vital kelp]

mid

[wraith sentinel]

-# Oh I know, but I spark more for design than meta (even if she is good in that regard too).

[lofty vale]

Saria is still the same value as ever
It’s just that being a healing defender doesn’t really justify 180 certs

Usually people want to buy smth more exciting

[opaque remnant]

You mean more useful?

[bronze osprey]

This is my 3 week progress, is there any helpful suggestions? Appreciate it.

[wraith sentinel]

Focus on Tragodia, his S2 is game-changing.

[undone portal]

wild progress in 2weeks
id suggest e1 tragodia > e2 pramalt > e2 tragodia. give narantuya a look afterwards

[wraith sentinel]

<@&586570970345635868>

[bronze osprey]

thanks guys very helpful 🙂

[rugged pine]

Hello i need clarification, is the web event for ef players only or ak too? Trying to login with my ak info but getting errors

[timber finch]

the current one is both
pramanix one is ak

[pseudo lotus]

I’m also having issues not sure what it is

[rugged pine]

Im getting an error with no character found when im trying to login with my ak account, tried using the binded logins too but still getting an error

I also tried with UID, same error

[wraith shoal]

maybe you made a mistake in your uid

[undone portal]

try using the uid login method
input the 8digit code below your name on your homescreen

[vital kelp]

what happen

[timber finch]

they banned mrbeast

[vital kelp]

😭

[pallid basin]

Astgenne the lightchser good?

[undone portal]

decent but not really worth building unless you like her

[rugged pine]

OH so that login, why is it asking UID lmao

[undone portal]

because thats your uid other thing is your username

[rugged pine]

Yeah it works now lmao im glad i asked

[timber finch]

i mean, the 8 digits are your uid

[wraith sentinel]

Still buy the Tokens though, when the event reruns you can buy them again to exchange for Distinction Certificates.

[old pilot]

Verified. This works.
Thanka for the tip.

[rugged pine]

I was using the UID in game center in settings

[vital kelp]

[rugged pine]

I thought it was that UID, but anyway thanks!

[vital kelp]

guys range expansion on range expansion work for closure's range expansion

[proven kelp]

Iirc her skill specifically says Original range

[vital kelp]

so range expansion on range expansion doesnt work for closure's range expansion

does range reduction work for closures range expansion

[wraith sentinel]

-# Works with Goldenglow S3 then.

[undone portal]

closure strictly checks original range unfortunately. no avemujica tech

[shadow bay]

did they recently change midnight jp voice?

[old pilot]

Yes

[proven kelp]

Liberators are fucked

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, original VA visited a specific shrine.

[shadow bay]

oh its that issue again

[vital kelp]

guys i heard that monhon might be replaced by mlp since capcom is japanese company, is this true?

[wraith sentinel]

Replacing is doubtful. Delayed probably.

Like the Destiny 2 collab.

[old pilot]

Rumor territory. But I doubt that was the replacement. The MLP collab isn't a fullscale event like the MH2 collab was.

[vital kelp]

is it a skin and furniture like hello kitty then

[old pilot]

Yes

[vital kelp]

how did u know

[old pilot]

Cause they said as such in the livestream.

[vital kelp]

oh, did they? damn welp

[vivid yew]

Is there a way to change dubbing for an unowned operator?

[timber finch]

pretty sure you cant change anything specific on unowned ops

[rocky pilot]

Only way is change the full on base voice lines I am pretty sure

[vital kelp]

has pepe skin reran yet

[rocky pilot]

Put it on chinese, everyone speak chinese, english, english, japanese, japanese

That's the only only way cannot change a unowned op dubbing itself specifically

[wraith flicker]

do attack buffs from the op themselves and external buffs like warf's stack additively or multiplicatively?

[old pilot]

I believe it's additive for "increase ATK +X%".

[wraith flicker]

ok that checks out with what i calculated

[raven ermine]

Every atk% is additive

[vital kelp]

some relic in IS is multiplicative

i think survivor contract and some other

[raven ermine]

Yes from operators kit i meant
Relic scaling is its own thing

[vital kelp]

[wraith sentinel]

According to hermitz not yet I think.

[vital kelp]

😭 ima cry i gave up on it cuz i was saving op for mujika

[wraith flicker]

would this also apply to trait like liberator

[wraith sentinel]

Hmm, are there other operators like Leizi that show the amount of charges they have through their visuals rather than an icon?

[proven kelp]

Gnosis has that blizzard effect around him
Penance spins her mace

[old pilot]

Mystic Casters.

[wraith sentinel]

(I mean for Skills with Charges specifically.)

[raven ermine]

yes it would

[proven kelp]

read

[raven ermine]

Which is part of the reason why liberators don't benefit a lot from atk% buffing, the buff pool is very diluted

[wraith sentinel]

Not Charged effects but Charges, like how Leizi S1 charges are shown with the lightning bolts surrounding her.

[abstract mauve]

isnt that just her liberator trait?

[wraith sentinel]

That's the crackle on her sword.

On S1 she also gets little lightning bolts under her showing how many Charges she has.

[wraith shoal]

is hermitz updated with the new skins? Nevermind just checked

[pallid basin]

Is mlynar good for story?

[vital kelp]

yes

[abstract mauve]

overkill even but yeah he's very good

[sage sequoia]

Hi guys, any of those are useful to pull? thanks

[bright lake]

BRUH is this mission bugged?? 'clear a sim with 50 aid stacks' I cleared it with 178 stacks

[silent pendant]

tldr ulpi and tragedia are the only ones somewhat worth going for only if you don't have both of them but even then saving for wang is likely best

[obtuse obsidian]

did you have it active at the end?

[bright lake]

...............

it didnt say to lol

[wraith sentinel]

Anyway, was just wondering if other operators have similar visual effects since most of the time I usually just see a number icon or nothing.

[silent pendant]

"clear" means at the end

[obtuse obsidian]

its just a guess

probably a good one

[pallid basin]

How does tragodia works?

[wraith sentinel]

S2 gives you a cat that can draw enemies toward it temporarily, rerouting their pathing. Decently quick to redeploy as well.

[wraith flicker]

cat go boom, slow, boss 'retraces its steps' and repeat

[silent pendant]

s2 gives him a cat deployable which lures enemies to it and explodes for good damage

[pallid basin]

So exu alt with him is a solid combo?

[silent pendant]

the lure effect basically enables creative mode and lets you force enemies to move in whatever way you want

[wraith sentinel]

Uh, Exusiai is good in general but not sure what the combo would be.

[silent pendant]

they have no direct synergy you're just using 2 of the top 3 best units in the game

[rocky pilot]

As long as they don't have lure immunity but like besides that one goat thing in the current event idk who else

[pallid basin]

Ok

[sage sequoia]

Got Tragodia, will wait to get Ulpianus

[hazy marsh]

Ines makes the snipers on the right side a not issue

[nimble marten]

wait what is Ascalon best skill ??? she is not stunning or slowing down the boars

[pallid basin]

S2 exuai or s3 exuiai

[wraith shoal]

s2

[wraith sentinel]

Both are good, S2 for general use and S3 for redeploy shenanigans (e.g. Hoshiguma S3 manual cancel).

[rocky pilot]

Mostly s2 for general use
S3 used for redeploy shenanigans, like hoshi2 or someone

[reef sparrow]

anyone encounter this?

[rocky pilot]

Tf?

[abstract mauve]

tf??

[wraith sentinel]

Uh, normal mode is different avalanche direction but why did it push you down.

[hazy marsh]

Such is the will of Kjeragandr

[abstract mauve]

why did it shift her down

[reef sparrow]

cuz this is normal mode, still

[rocky pilot]

I don't study enough physics for this

[abstract mauve]

the enemies that block the avalanche block its effects for your units as well

not sure why pram2 got shifted. i used pram2 myself for this stage

[hazy marsh]

Upload it and get us some sweet apolorundum

[reef sparrow]

don't x me bro look at my life points it's normal

[wraith flicker]

it must've been the wind

[pallid basin]

What should i focus on farming as a lvl 45??

[wraith sentinel]

In Normal Mode she would be affected by the Avalanche, but normally she should just take damage...

[abstract mauve]

normal mode doesnt change how the enemy interacts with the avalanche. we can clearly see the avalanche direction. the enemy should be blocking it but it didnt for some reason

[wraith sentinel]

Wait, no, mixed up direction. The mushroom not shielding is weird.

[marble viper]

Ah yes

[abstract mauve]

where your pram is should've been safe as long as you didnt kill the top mushroom but she still got shifted

[marble viper]

Idk I also felt this thought it was normal lol

People using pram to solo while I'm switching between 3 dps just to not die

[rocky pilot]

Just simply borrow

[marble viper]

I have her

[frosty flame]

Which of these is more usable?

[vital kelp]

none

[hazy marsh]

Don't we all have free Cliffheart?

[frosty flame]

Does any do anything particularly unique?

[abstract mauve]

it's supposed to be safe but his pram got rolled

[raven ermine]

That was years ago
It's been replaced with the day7 selector now

[rocky pilot]

No
Old new player login rewards used to give everyone cliffheart, it got changed to free pulls instead and selector

[hazy marsh]

Ooooh

What's in the selector? Is it the one that got Blaze in it?

[rocky pilot]

I would've picked the selector everyday I am stuck with the cliffheart

[reef sparrow]

pram issue i guess

[frosty flame]

Soooo do I just pick whoever?

[abstract mauve]

btw i think pram snow tiles kill the top mushroom over time. not too sure tho

[raven ermine]

No, not really
Nothing useful for base either
Just pick whatever if you don't have any

[wraith sentinel]

All the enemies keep removing the tile spread.

[abstract mauve]

oh fair ye. i had a run where i killed the enemy too fast and she did

[raven ermine]

No it's a 5* selector, the one with ptilo in it
Idr the exact pool, it's like 4 ops iirc

[pallid basin]

Is it bad that i missed on silverash and pramanix banner

[frosty flame]

Yes but on the bright side

[cedar drum]

hello im a new player and i saw that warfarin is apparently strong and i have her in the certificate shop and can hire her, but should i save them idk if they are particularly hard to save up or not

[frosty flame]

More saving for wang and chen3

[wraith sentinel]

The one with four options is a different selector; has Silence, Projekt Red, Pramanix and Liskarm.

The one with Ptilopsis is a much bigger pool.

[wraith sentinel]

Oh wait, I completely missed the second one.

Was thinking of this one.

[raven ermine]

That one is the day one selector yeah

[wraith sentinel]

One day Ptilopsis will arrive in the shop...

[ebon pier]

Do we know who is next on the cert shop

[vital kelp]

not legally

[ebon pier]

What if we said just hypothetically

[frosty flame]

The only thing we know legally is the CN banner order for when the current ones came out, but that might get some changes for global

[raven ermine]

https://akgcc.github.io/shoplist/ Draw your own hypothetical conclusions

[blazing mist]

passenger modx or mody

leaning modx because his s3 is pretty

[wraith shoal]

he's kinda ass dont raise him

[proven kelp]

Module Recommendations for 6*

[obtuse obsidian]

the wind seems to have started right above her head instead of top for whatever reason

[blazing mist]

his second module seems to not be listed but ill just take the recommendation that confirms my biases

[raven ermine]

Just wait for his RA mod and use it for stats

[blazing mist]

oh does it beat the others even in non-RA?

[proven kelp]

Its not listed because its the shittier module

[raven ermine]

No, but it's way cheaper, it's not even close

[blazing mist]

ah ok i saw others had multiple listed so i figured it was an oversight

[proven kelp]

Lmao no
Its just cheaper
Its worse in literally every way in performance

[blazing mist]

okay sounds like module x then thanks a bunch guys

[wraith sentinel]

Oh, it's reproducible even.
Just place an Avalanche Barriers two rows above her.

That's so weird.

[proven kelp]

Nah, I'm slowly planning to add those for others
I'm just lazy so most class don't have the other options yet

[blazing mist]

ah ok

[chrome tiger]

Oh i did

[hushed dawn]

How do i claim these?

[reef sparrow]

[vital kelp]

have gold

[wraith sentinel]

Placing it one row above also works. Seems like somehow when an Avalanche Barrier collapses it opens up an unprotected tile where it originally was?

[reef sparrow]

so avalanche started depends on when u put the device, and it ignores shrooms

[chrome tiger]

Make more gold

[hushed dawn]

What

[chrome tiger]

You dont have enough gold bars

[vital kelp]

u trade gold bar for money

u dont have gold bar to trade

[chrome tiger]

go to factory and make more

[raven ermine]

Don't skip tutorials, the game told you as much already

[hushed dawn]

aite ill never ask anyone anything again lmfao

[wispy totem]

I mean, they’re not wrong.

[wraith sentinel]

It even works if you put down an Avalanche Barrier, let it collapse, then place someone in the same tile it occupied.

[hushed dawn]

I played the game for a hour or two a few days ago and came back a few days later. Sorry.

[wispy totem]

See the 1/2 on each of those orders? You need 2 gold bars to complete an order. Usually, these are made in the base via factory.

It’s a transaction, basically.

[raven ermine]

No clue why you feel so offended by this

[bright lake]

do yall know whether or not we will get rewards track extension in stronghold 2? its currently level 35

[timber finch]

in current, we will definitely

else we can't reach that

[raven ermine]

[bright lake]

hey in my defense, i was never taught how to read

[wraith sentinel]

[timber finch]

mushroom hates you

[wraith sentinel]

Spaghetti code strikes again.

[vital kelp]

isnt that illegal

[wraith sentinel]

Really funny that the Avalanche Barrier somehow creates a new starting point for Avalanche calculation.

[bright lake]

reading? yes

[crisp loom]

Whats archetto IS skill? Also which to m3?

[wraith sentinel]

But yeah, @reef sparrow this is hilarious.

[wary vector]

does this affect the epoch spike as well? which means it's almost immortal?

[raven ermine]

S3
Sometimes s1/s2 if you have spinach

[abstract mauve]

it does ye

it's still killable relatively fine tbh
you get used to it

[wary vector]

i mean if i get the flinger hand + wis/ros sure, but not sure how to kill it on floor 1

[vital kelp]

get wis/ros and flinger hand on f1

[abstract mauve]

someone dedicated to killing spike usually

[wary vector]

is click e1 even enough? before this d14 she can easily solo it from my experience

[abstract mauve]

should be fine afaik. i've used worse arts dps and they handled it well

[haughty holly]

Click will take longer but doable, did it a couple of times

[wary vector]

i know no one else, at least among the 4-stars

[haughty holly]

Trust me spikes are the least of your worries

[abstract mauve]

for floor 1 they kinda are the main worry

[haughty holly]

Is that why I'm failing d15

[abstract mauve]

if your starting squad cant pick up spikes on floor 1 then it's a bad starting squad

[blissful island]

do yall also think I should play on the second account? I’ve already gotten an answer from someone but just wanted to hear more opinions

[obtuse obsidian]

click can
amiya medic can
valar can tho this is mostly ayhd thing

any e2 dps can randomly kill it usually

acid drop can (if you stall the last enemy with defender

[wary vector]

amiya medic is actually good reminder
but the starting squad sounds ass

[haughty holly]

Second acc does seem better in a way

[obtuse obsidian]

i play ayhd i am the ass

[wary vector]

wtf is ayhd

[obtuse obsidian]

as your heart desire

[wary vector]

oh the gamba squad
also regarding valar..
she's still imprisoned in is4

[runic willow]

How efficient is stage 7 sugar compared to say a stage in ch 10 for example?

[obtuse obsidian]

its ayhd copium since i get random 5*

[vital kelp]

check penguine stat

[runic willow]

What's penguin stat

[abstract mauve]

https://penguin-stats.io/

[wary vector]

isnt /eventfarm always have the summary of it
for event stage efficiency

[echo venture]

should be yes

[obtuse obsidian]

ya thats better then penguin stats cause it already maffing the other stuff in story

[runic willow]

My question was more how does a normal stage compare to a event stage in drop efficiency

On penguin there are multiple drops , do I have to convert it to a total sanity per drop

[vital kelp]

you can check the efficiency in penguine stat for both stage

[obtuse obsidian]

tldr
event stage is around 11% better then best story without including the mats from event shop

[runic willow]

Ok thx, that's kinda what I was looking for

[vital kelp]

✈️ 🥄 🥕 🥦

os-7 is 21.61 per sugar and 10-10 is 45.27

[buoyant sigil]

(Be aware that rma is also really a pain to get btw)

[obtuse obsidian]

its in bot spam btw like hidden said for future reference

[vital kelp]

best one in stage is 2-5? with 32.41 sanity

i dont actually know how real this is

[obtuse obsidian]

you are looking at pure suger

story have bunch of mats on each stage
thats why bot spam eventfarm command is better

[runic willow]

Has bot sanity stage always included a story column?

It only compares specifically the main drip as well?

[buoyant sigil]

RMA70 is much rarer than sugar though. If anything I’d also compare it. Very widely used. It might also be more worth spending the time on.

[obtuse obsidian]

it compare to the best one usually yes

and show expected sanity per item for those who only look for the said material

[coarse notch]

isnt rma being added to perma shop

[obtuse obsidian]

perma shop will end up with too many mats but not enough points realmad

[runic willow]

Ic, I wanted to compare the total efficency of all drops overall for story vs event to get a feel of how much you lose when farming op

[vital kelp]

just grind harder

[mild yacht]

Just don’t need all those mats.

[buoyant sigil]

When?

[coarse notch]

ch17

[sullen shale]

Would y'all recommend to upgrade Pramanix S3M3?

Same for SA alt S3M3

[knotty basin]

is M21-ing Amiya + modules a sound decision?

[coarse notch]

yes and yes

[knotty basin]

S3 is bad... it lures the enemies towards her and she ficking dies

[coarse notch]

no

s3 is extremely strong what are you on about

[severe crypt]

Logos s3 has more raw dmg but pram s3 is still really good

[sullen shale]

Ic, it's like tragodia cat lure and when pram takes lethal dmg she freezes all nearby enemies

[coarse notch]

pram just kills everyone

her revive is her 2nd talent

[sullen shale]

[coarse notch]

pram2 actually has more total damage than logoa s3 and it becomes greater the less hes able to proc necrosis
plus its true aoe whereas logos is 4 target
logos does have higher dps tho

[severe crypt]

Damn I have to m6 pram now

[vital kelp]

m9 for push tech

[sullen shale]

Oks final I'll S3M3 pram

[severe crypt]

I’m not rain I think I’ll be fine 🥹

[rocky pilot]

I should m9 my pram2

[vital kelp]

What skill for gravel on is5 ed2

[turbid ocean]

S2 like always

E2 + Mastery recommended
Gravel has a decent chance at surviving Theresis bullets

[vital kelp]

No s1 use?

[turbid ocean]

Not that I know of atleast

Shield atleast scales with HP

[vital kelp]

I see, thanks

Is Chaos poison flat or percentile or

[turbid ocean]

idk if it goes up with difficulty

but its flat

[vital kelp]

Hm, I see

I don’t think u can out heal with just tinman can u

[turbid ocean]

depends on the difficulty and how much SP gen you have maybe

Choas is a chunk of the reason for E2 gummy

[runic willow]

Supah was right all along

[bitter hornet]

is there a guide or mini write up for stronghold mode? only see skill and borrow recommendations in the pins

[pale tapir]

don't think anyone here has made one
it's pretty straightforward once you read the operator kits
hidden 2nd boss requires some total amount of stacks between the 4 people I believe

[grim tree]

S1 use is so she dies faster in stronghold protocol lol

[mild yacht]

Oyuki made a baseline orientation guide for it, along with guiding to push for Laterano and Sargon ops.

[nimble marten]

hey Light I have a question

is Ethan worth investing in ?

[vital kelp]

depends, if u use is maybe

[turbid ocean]

hes strong niche

[nimble marten]

I dont have a lot of Ops that have stun or slow so I thought he might be useful

[leaden yoke]

He has a lot of uses on IS

[vital kelp]

he doesnt stun

[mild yacht]

He’s bind

[nimble marten]

ah I mean that

[turbid ocean]

he is useful but just will you use him

[coarse notch]

havent used ethan outside of IS pretty much ever

[vital kelp]

outside u have like ascalon

[mild yacht]

I used him outside of IS
In stronghold.

[nimble marten]

most likely yes

been adventuring around in RA and really need Ops that can either do stun,bind, or slow

[vital kelp]

no ascalon?

[turbid ocean]

I dont play RA you better ask #reclamation-algorithm-hub

at how useful he is in higher end

[nimble marten]

ik but most say buy Ethan so I wanna know whats the opinion here

[vital kelp]

guys im confused

[turbid ocean]

a lot of people echo stuff in this community because they heard it from one guy

[nimble marten]

in RA you get swamped in like 4 directions lmao

Ascalon can cover one area but I need someone to guard the other side basically

[vital kelp]

why is uika at a lower trust? ive been using them together, put in activity room and as assistant at roughly the same time, and been putting in dorm

why is uika trust just... lower than the others?

u can see everyone else is pretty much similar range but uika just lower for some reason

[turbid ocean]

Might be a rounding thing

[mild yacht]

When you got her, how many stages you actually took her to…

[turbid ocean]

Put 3 of them including Uika in your support ops

then give me your user ID

[vital kelp]

im tw does that even work

[turbid ocean]

ill see brb 15m

[vital kelp]

the same as umiri

[turbid ocean]

ping me

[vital kelp]

id: 21797144 @turbid ocean

[mild yacht]

Unless you went through all the stages first then claimed them, you had one before the other.

[vital kelp]

put nyamu mutsumi uika

[turbid ocean]

nvm i cant

[vital kelp]

i got uika before nyamu and umiri in fact, and started grinding her trust before the other two

i legit cant think of any other factor here

[turbid ocean]

did you have them in your factories or something

or might be how long you had one in training room

[vital kelp]

no, just dorm and activity room

do they get extra from training room? compared to dorm

cuz i m6 them all it shouldnt be that different

welp... just a weird thing ill never figure out ig

[mild yacht]

Training room gives as much as being in a factory, training room or dorm. Assistants and activity room are the only elevated trust.

[wraith sentinel]

Are all your Activity Rooms at the same Ambience?

[vital kelp]

yeah, i do 243 and its all maxed ambience

oh wait, wtf, its actually not maxed

riddle solved wtf why is it not maxed

[odd sky]

cuz you forgor

[rocky pilot]

Should have double checked

[midnight pine]

for an amazing reason

[vital kelp]

cuz i was using the is5 set without unlocking the expansion furniture set i think

whichever this one was, i had half of it placed for some reason

[wraith sentinel]

[static glade]

Is pramanix alter good in next annihilation

[vital kelp]

pram2 is good in every annihilation

[static glade]

I see

[rocky pilot]

I have seen at least 6 anni vids by now using pram2 for afk

[quaint finch]

ethan is quite strong but really wants mastery 3 and module so it may help to try and wait until you can prepare materials for that beforehand if you have priorities elsewhere

[wraith sentinel]

Unless you're using him for hitcount, then high investment is mostly irrelevant.

[quaint finch]

oh ethan would probably help for that
granted not nearly as well or consistently as ascalon but he would definitely help

[midnight pine]

getting her is what allowed me to beat every auntie currently available

[wraith sentinel]

Also his Bind is still good even without Module and Masteries, even if not as good.

[steep chasm]

How bad is Pinecone s2 compared to the 5* spreadshooters?
Do they at least powercreep that?

[ebon plaza]

from what i remember isn't pinecone a pretty good 4* dps

[cursive maple]

yeah

[rocky pilot]

Someone arrest this guy beating up innocent aunts

[wraith sentinel]

S1 is better though, mm.

Kichisei is not great from what I heard.

[buoyant sigil]

I think the thing is that spreadshooters in general have a bunch of weaknesses. Their range is clunky to work with, damage isn’t the best, they’re expensive, kits don’t remedy the aforementioned issues, etc.
So I’d say that pinecone shines because she’s way cheaper.

[regal phoenix]

Does frozen objective prevent all enemy from enter including flying type?

[ebon plaza]

not flying, and not unblockable

[rocky pilot]

Unblockable and flying enemies still get in

[ebon plaza]

i'd take pinecone over any 5* alternative

[wraith sentinel]

It is in the end just an ordinary ground Summon with three Block, even if in an odd location. So it can also be Stunned or Frozen for example.

[slim tusk]

pine s2 is pretty bad so

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah you also generally just prefer s1

[maiden thunder]

How to fix a class? Just make a 6* that does gazillion damage in it🤯

[buoyant sigil]

I think that besides pinecone the most relevant spreadshooter is chen2 and she’s honestly fallen off a bit

[rocky pilot]

Swimsuit power wasn’t enough

[buoyant sigil]

And while her damage does come into play I also feel one of the main things that “saved” her was exactly how she had a range extension to somewhat remedy the god-awful spreadshooter range

[slim tusk]

pine s2 decrease the range even further lol,what a joke

[buoyant sigil]

use executor then

[paper needle]

i dont have specter/lapland. Is it still worth giving tequilla a senior training ticket? i dont really use him tho

[rocky pilot]

Bringing shotguns to shoot from a high ground sounds weird already innit

[steep chasm]

Pinecone s1 is strong because of its manual charges,
combined with highly impactful animation-canceling.
Precise burst potential, but super anti-AFK.

And the defense-ignore ain't that bad,
given their 150% trait multiplier is damage-based.

[slim tusk]

you can give it to gracebearer

[formal shadow]

build yo surfer g

[rain forge]

Also don’t use exusiai or astgenne they’re dogshit

[formal shadow]

Rat

[maiden thunder]

No SAlt

[wild cedar]

No need to give it to tequila since he’s already e1 40

[rocky pilot]

Sash got too homeless

[slim tusk]

they already e1 exu,just use her but don't invest further

[rain forge]

How good do kal2 and closure look so far

[paper needle]

I thought exu was fine like ol time

[severe crypt]

2020 was 6 years ago 🥹

[maiden thunder]

Yeah now she struggles against regular event grunts and deals 0 damage to the elites in them

[rocky pilot]

Kal2 I say solid but not the best of best
Closure well not sure honestly

[formal shadow]

astgenne2 isnt exu level bad

[paper needle]

ah, shouldve know that earlier

[rocky pilot]

Even watching showcases still don’t know how I feel about closure

[paper needle]

so give it to gracebearer and lvl up Surfer yea?

[rain forge]

The most I’ve seen for closure is flagpipe part 2 except instead of wasting 2-3 slots it wastes 5 slots and is limited to a 3x3 radius

[maiden thunder]

Cinema

[rocky pilot]

When there’s a new vg there’s the bagpipe coming out from the potato farm

[maiden thunder]

U could just say she seems ahh

[rocky pilot]

I’ll still pull for closure either way negative dp sounds funny

[wraith sentinel]

It's a bit sad how weak her Rhodes Island buff is though...

[maiden thunder]

Pull her because she is hot

[rain forge]

Iirc the negative dp is like -3 (-4 with potentials)

[wraith sentinel]

Module increases, or decreases, it to -5 I think.

[formal shadow]

getting closure gives you a permanent 15% discount on all shop items

[paper needle]

whats the subs for exu that i may have to get em?

[maiden thunder]

Any better dps

[rocky pilot]

I feel like I am getting baited as well because I saw a new talulah art while checking the YouTube community posts

[rain forge]

Kroos and kroos alter

[pliant summit]

Mylnar best skill?

[wraith shoal]

s3

[rocky pilot]

Not fanart or sorts, drawn by the talulah artists

[maiden thunder]

Just use kroos2 and exu for marksman for now

[pliant summit]

Does mylnar need module or is he good without it

[wraith shoal]

needs it

[rocky pilot]

Mod is big increase in pp damage

[formal shadow]

not like he's bad w/o it though

[maiden thunder]

Well he does fine without it but it's a 30% damage increase so it's highly recommended @pliant summit

[stray gust]

guys regarding stronghold protocol comp, anyone has good idea of how to play investor into marvel/foresight into something else?

[wraith shoal]

#stronghold-hall

[pliant summit]

Aight thanks y’all

[maiden thunder]

Stronghold is giga ahh if u are a new player icl

[paper needle]

kroos2 from invitation to wine?

[shadow bay]

question

do we bound to get another insta m3 for 6 stars in the future assuming already gotten all known access for said voucher?

[rocky pilot]

Also is possible to have a “permanent” uptime for surtr and hoshi2 with exu2 and kal2 s3
Don’t know how much that will even come into play

If there’s any to begin with

[maiden thunder]

Why would u wanna put all that effort for some shitty DPS that fell off years ago

[daring shard]

to use new skin

[rocky pilot]

Someone with a surtr obsession maybe

[modern gust]

is starting with is2 a bad idea

[vital kelp]

no

[rain forge]

Is2 is boring as shit

[formal shadow]

it gets you educated on the basics

[cursive maple]

is2 is easy and good for learning basics but the grinding is hard plus ending rng

[wraith sentinel]

High Difficulty is a pain but otherwise not too bad.

[cursive maple]

not more pain than high diff is3 though

[shadow bay]

not rly, u can start whatever is u want to

is2 have the most simplest gimmick among all is
is5 is the cheezable one among the selection due to a certain strat that can reliably proc

there are movement that is2 good to start to learn is... since u may get overwhelmed to gimmicks when u start exploring is3 and above

[wraith shoal]

IS2 has bs bosses from what I've heard

[shadow bay]

but then again, point of rouge lite is to fuck around and find out... mistakes and failures are inevitable and part of gameplay

[formal shadow]

gimmicky, sure, but not too stress-inducing comparatively once you're familiar

[wraith sentinel]

(Nervous Impairment was the most annoying part of IS2 for me.)

[rain forge]

is2 has NI?

[vital kelp]

???

[formal shadow]

????

[wraith shoal]

IS5 seems to have the most unique and maybe fun bosses. Maybe except for quilon idk he seems ass

[rain forge]

read what bookwhyrm said

[wild cedar]

#stronghold-hall message

[wraith sentinel]

Basically all the special enemies apply it...

[rain forge]

dang

[vital kelp]

nervous impairment is literally the whole thing about is2

the little flying bomb that drop when die, the clown, phantom himself

[formal shadow]

hard to believe you didn't remember NI in IS2 assuming you played it, which I assume you did

[rain forge]

I’ve done like two maybe 3 runs of is2 so I don’t remember it that much

[maiden thunder]

That bum ahh flying present

[formal shadow]

kroos mogs it no

[steep chasm]

Was that before or after we had wandering medics?

[maiden thunder]

There is one stage where is spawns close to high ground tiles

[wraith sentinel]

At high Difficulties they kinda apply it too fast for Wandering Medics to do much.

[wraith sentinel]

The one with four aerial spawning boxes?

[potent plover]

is Nasti event next?

[maiden thunder]

They are called wandering medics because they are homeless

[potent plover]

i need more wandering medics less therapists

[fathom nest]

We had Wandering medics before IS2 released

[potent plover]

therapists be hooging all the characters

[potent plover]

was Chestnut the first one?

[fathom nest]

Mulberry was

[potent plover]

ah

[vital kelp]

the first impairment we had was on dossoles holidays was it not

then theres some in Near light and so far so on

[wraith sentinel]

Isn't Dossoles Holiday Erosion / Corrosion?

[fathom nest]

It was Under Tides that had it first

[fathom nest]

Corrosion, yeah. The purple one

[maiden thunder]

How's crackborne?

[craggy belfry]

So the event is about to wrap up I don't think I have enough to clean out the shop

But what should be the buying priority

[steel plinth]

What should I get?

[fathom nest]

If you're looking for long term gains then tokens and furniture

[fathom nest]

Healing + ranged

[shadow bay]

this might be just lottery for possible warf/ptilo

[craggy belfry]

What about dupes and skins?

Wait does token mean dupes?

[wraith sentinel]

The Tokens are dupes.

[shadow bay]

dupes is what he meant for tokens

[steel plinth]

I got silence… I already have her

[maiden thunder]

And get the headhunting tickets too

[craggy belfry]

Ahh makes sense Ty what about skins

[shadow bay]

i would skip skin unless rly a fan of jessica and the other one selled

[fathom nest]

Up to you on skins

They provide no gameplay advantages

[broken flame]

don't forget module blocks

[shadow bay]

thing with them is... u would only get them via gold and blue certs in future if u decide to skip them this event

but then again they are just purely cometics

[wraith sentinel]

(Out of the resources LMD is probably best to get, along with Skill materials.)

[pallid basin]

should i play sui garden stuff? as a lvl 45 with no sanity left

[fathom nest]

You can, it doesn't cost sanity, and it's a permanent game mode

[broken flame]

And it gives you materials

[steep chasm]

If you have to ask... probably not yet.

[maiden thunder]

Not just sui garden,that is one part of a rouge like gamemode which is currently has 5 different themes

[quaint finch]

you absolutely can if you feel ready for it but i would advise you get ethan from the cert shop first as his s1 is very nice to deal with certain enemies

[mild yacht]

Do you like free stuff?
Do you love to suffer?
If you answered ‘yes’ to one of these questions, IS may be for you.

[broken flame]

Or the suffering = enjoyment for you, depends

[fathom nest]

Could also play either of the earlier IS modes to get a better feel for it, namely IS2 (Phantom) since it has basically no important mechanic to fiddle with

[rocky pilot]

Pain hurts so good

[pallid basin]

where do i get those cert in need like 14 more 😭

[quaint finch]

red cert stages where the xp stages are
theyre only available on certain days but fairly often

[wraith sentinel]

Annihilation Simulation first-clears for example, or the farming stages.

[static glade]

Omg I love it when my Wisadel isn't E2 yet and targets other enemies besides the little cups and plaques, so rage inducing 😍

[severe crypt]

Skill issue methinks

[leaden yoke]

Red certs you can farm for them, tho you also get huge amount from 1st time clearing annihilation stages

[rocky pilot]

Tough siege is available
Is still Sunday on the game time so still available

[pallid basin]

okk

[rocky pilot]

Even then is also on Monday either way so doesn’t matter

[pastel trail]

new player here, who should i go for from top operator from event? (I only have mountain from beginner banner)

[static glade]

Get DPS like thorns or surtr

[inner atlas]

do we know what closure does as an op?

[vital kelp]

thorns

dps

[static glade]

Wait that's not the right choice

[inner atlas]

a few years back maybe

[rocky pilot]

Do you need a brain bonk

[severe crypt]

Perchance

[broken flame]

that's a big gamble for Surtr which is the only one worth there from Guards since OG SA is free from selector

[fathom nest]

I do think guard pick is still best here. Unless they want to gamble for Archetto

[inner atlas]

mountain can be a good early e1 kinda maybe

[vital kelp]

socks i have an offtopic question for u, should i ask here or should i go to offtopic

[leaden yoke]

Top operator + Guard .

4 good picks, 1 decent pick and 3 bad picks.

[severe crypt]

Tags of doom and despair

[lyric lagoon]

the ominous mountain dupe boutta hit bro

[broken flame]

Gamble the Guard and pray

[fathom nest]

Just dm me if it's for me specifically

[wraith sentinel]

Look in #cn-lounge pins.

[inner atlas]

do we know what closure does as an op

[leaden yoke]

Tho I woudl go for Sniper, Archetto and Exusia are good on early stages, tho they fall off later on

[vital kelp]

its nothing serious

[rocky pilot]

The Pokémon hellagur appears

[lyric lagoon]

she allows you to go into negative dp

[mild yacht]

She does vanguard things.

[inner atlas]

wow thats perfect timing.

[quaint finch]

sometimes!

[severe crypt]

Damn already better than bagpipe

[rocky pilot]

Greed is better than potatoes

[mild yacht]

Greed buys you potatoes.

[lyric lagoon]

but bagpipe sash2 exu2 combo

[leaden yoke]

Better Flagpipe but less utility than what Ines or Silverash alter offers.

[rocky pilot]

All of a sudden I got reminded my bad decision spending those free kernel pulls on this time’s kernel locating

[broken flame]

Same, I got Passenger

[static glade]

Did you get what you want, because I didn't

0 6* and a chiave jumpscare saying he's my goon now

[lyric lagoon]

ra3 cope

[fathom nest]

Move on from the idle conversion please

[static glade]

Is chiave good, should I build him

[fathom nest]

No, no

[rocky pilot]

How’s gnosis in is6

[broken flame]

Yeah maybe this is a sign it's time to actually play RA when RA3 comes 🥀

[fathom nest]

Probably top 3 pick for supporter from what I've seen

[leaden yoke]

Broken has far as I'm concern.

[rocky pilot]

Is he gonna better since I have sash2 and pram2

[static glade]

If you have some items like the damage for freeze and and all, he's solid

[broken flame]

Amazing against those hit count bs especially with Pram2. I have that favorite map where they just melt everything before they approach

[quick jolt]

you can use him without those 2 but yeah its a fun combo

[fathom nest]

He works really well with them

[quaint finch]

raidian > tragodia > gnosis > angie > arturia

[rocky pilot]

Alright 30 usd kernel selector here I come
If my dad returns my 300 usd in time that is

[quick jolt]

i lowkey prefer gnosis over trag

[odd sky]

i don't draft trag anymore

[proven kelp]

Haruka dead

[vital kelp]

i lowkey prefer uofficial over trag

[rocky pilot]

[floral loom]

https://krooster.com/u/swordbomb101
Any tips for who I should be focusing on RN?

[drifting prairie]

respect for mastering BP

[odd sky]

ulpianus
baseslaves check /base and /baseskills in #bot-spam

[worldly fern]

ulpapi

[fathom nest]

e2 Sakiko

[drifting prairie]

sakiko and sashalt

[floral loom]

Which Sash?

[broken flame]

Salt 🧂

[slim tusk]

silence alt?

[rocky pilot]

The white one

[leaden yoke]

bruh

[drifting prairie]

fur is 40% other colors btw

[quaint finch]

very valid actually tragodia feels pretty unnecessary in is6

[worldly fern]

welp I regret pulling on the orienteering, I got 2 ulpis, 2 zuos, 0 trag

[broken flame]

why did you keep going that far

[rocky pilot]

Just say white one ceo silverash is wearing mostly black to begin with is obvious enough

[slim tusk]

you should have stopped earlier regardless

[ebon plaza]

what's the plan for wang now

[static glade]

Should've stopped at first 6*

[drifting prairie]

tbf if you made the decision to pull on orienteering you already screwed up

[drifting prairie]

lol im just messing with you

[worldly fern]

I'm a new player, lvl 37, I guess I can keep up??

[quick jolt]

pulling more than 1 6star on orienteering is just not a good idea, ever

[static glade]

Just know your op sources are slowly depleting

[drifting prairie]

keep up like content wise? yeah ulpianus is good for general content

[ebon plaza]

oh yeah you'll be fine overall, it's a setback but it's not bricked by any means

[quick jolt]

you can, but for the future dont pull banners when they have a 66% chance of giving you a dupe

[rocky pilot]

If you done a hellbunch of side stories and main story + challenges for a bunch of

[fathom nest]

So what happened to this account?

[rocky pilot]

Wait what

[quick jolt]

lmfao

[worldly fern]

that's my second account, it's my main account I got 0 trags

[floral loom]

I have run out of LMD again dammit

[rocky pilot]

Base

[drifting prairie]

i feel you, i have 0 lmd like constantly

[static glade]

Make your second your main and ditch it then

[broken flame]

Lungmen debt