strategy

[blazing tartan]

Quick question that I feel like people in here are most likely to know: do the traits of Tactician operators affect the reinforcements of other Tacticians too? The wording of the traits is fairly ambiguous.
Meaning, for example, if you used Blacknight and Beanstalk at the same time, would Blacknight also deal 150% of her regular damage to enemies blocked by Beanstalk's crabs?

[small oar]

i would imagine no, cant confirm tho

@blazing tartan nevermind the trait states reinforcements so i believe that implies all units that block

[rose patrol]

I was hoping ines s3 dp 0 would swap using sa alt s3

[exotic grove]

hrm
idk how to clear kjera stage without exialt and blazeter and borrowed texter

[river atlas]

Whar

[plucky flint]

did I skip something why does wis summon can't go high ground in front of her

[faint scaffold]

what a good grinding stage in the event?

[gentle cove]

7/8/9
but it also depend what you need

[faint scaffold]

idk what i need

[jovial nest]

maps without scrolling (RA) or transitions (TfN/IS5 Ed 4-5 boss)

[exotic grove]

dealing with the snowballs and bats is annoying with this team

[river atlas]

What weirdass nicheknights is this

[exotic grove]

trustfarmknights

[faint scaffold]

is light chaser good?

[exotic grove]

read #help pins

[faint scaffold]

didnt see it in there

so i asked normally

[rustic eagle]

w team tho

[exotic grove]

is there some sort of stage previewer that has the current event's stages
prts.map doesn't seem to have it
trying to figure out the tile type that makes wis summons undeployable here

[fossil sphinx]

what level is this

https://mapen.ark-nights.com/areas/act46side

[gentle cove]

are you sure this isnt a mob?

[rustic eagle]

huh?

[gentle cove]

on a similar level, thoses are mobs

[rustic eagle]

ohhh

[gentle cove]

if avalanches triggers on them too often, they become the isbits

[rustic eagle]

interesting guess

is it that stage

[exotic grove]

OS-8

[rustic eagle]

its the 9th i think

[gentle cove]

well nvm then

OS8 you can place high ground ops on it yeah..
well sorry then :(

[exotic grove]

it seems that they are still programmed in as mobs but don't ever wake up? maybe that's why autodeploys like the summons cannot be placed on them

[gentle cove]

i mean, in OS8 that'd be weird, cause the right and middle ones are where i placed my Greyy and Amiya to do the stage

[exotic grove]

operators are not autodeploy
or whatever
the thing where the game decides where to drop them

[gentle cove]

hm true
yeah i see what you mean

[exotic grove]

wrong channel

[cobalt tide]

WAIT

AAAA

mb mb bmbmbmbmbmb

[gentle cove]

what made me rethink my guess is that this spot also cannot at all get an avalanche

[exotic grove]

because at first I thought it was just wis rock logic where she prioritzes lower tiles but I think she prioritizes adjacent tiles first
and when I eliminated all possible spawn tiles except for the ice tiles the 3rd summon just doesn't spawn

[gentle cove]

actually ima go try on os9 lol

ill try to surround em aswell this time

[plucky flint]

wis politely refuse

[gentle cove]

i think you can't even surround em on this stage actually before they awake

[tight osprey]

how do you beat os 10

[gentle cove]

yeah you can't surround em without them to avalanche, but she doesnt want to put anything on them it seem, and she dies if that close

[exotic grove]

yeah it straight up refuses to spawn on the rocks
you can’t spawn wis rocks on the mobs apparently

[gentle cove]

i borrowed a wis'adel to do it

[rustic eagle]

if youre lazy you can copy off arkrec

[tight osprey]

place in that one?

[exotic grove]

no place her in the blue box

[gentle cove]

that's where i did, then i used blockers to avoid prim to be hit

[tight osprey]

does wis have to be m3s3 ful mod?

[gentle cove]

i mean, most people got her s3m3

[tight osprey]

I don't have her

😔

[exotic grove]

if you don't have waltuh s3m3 take her off borrow

[gentle cove]

most people with her in supports*

[tight osprey]

I mean

[rustic eagle]

you can place her om the left block

that way you have even more leeway

[tight osprey]

one of my friend has unfinished wis

[gentle cove]

tbh it doesnt change much

[tight osprey]

so

[rustic eagle]

in case the avalanche procs twice your wis isnt dead yet

[gentle cove]

avalanche doesnt proc

if you block

[rustic eagle]

yuh but why not

[gentle cove]

eh, fair

tbh you mostly want wis to be able to shoot the boss and birds and it's easy

they're the two threats if you can tank the mobs

[tight osprey]

where should I place blocker?

[gentle cove]

protect pramanix from avalanches

[tight osprey]

the boss?

[rustic eagle]

wis deletes the boss

[gentle cove]

so like here when she's on that area etc

[exotic grove]

kjera is the boss
pram is your ally

[gentle cove]

pramanix is the girl that kill the boss p1

[rustic eagle]

when shes on left side you have nothing to do

[tight osprey]

ah

[gentle cove]

blocking allow her to be safe frm avalanches so that she's not slowed

you can also straight up just kill the things else

[rustic eagle]

does she get hit on it tho

i remember not doing anything

[gentle cove]

shes in the area of avalanche, i didnt get any to happen so i cant say

[rustic eagle]

i meant it in that sense

like she leaves fast enough to where you dont have to do anything

except smash the snowball

[gentle cove]

ah, that case yeah you can just ignore the block

and let avalanches kill things

[tight osprey]

hm ok

[rustic eagle]

i could be wrong tho

[gentle cove]

also after doing the event, i still don't see the point of the two module thing #2 and #3 in it

[gentle cove]

i mean in any case left side is some weak trash

the right sides has the "big ones"

thoses tanked an avalanche personally

[exotic grove]

you mean the snow retention and avalanche control systems?

[gentle cove]

yea

[exotic grove]

you use snow retention to delay an avalanche
and the control system to protect your ops from one

[gentle cove]

oh okay

couldve had been useful the 3rd actually

[rustic eagle]

I only used the avalanche proc one too it’s the most fun

We’ll see with the stages to come tho

[gentle cove]

big true damage splash :3

[tight osprey]

wtf

I won

lol

[gentle cove]

wis'adel has insane damages
she can shred most bosses

[tight osprey]

I put pram and sa alt in

[bright juniper]

avalanche trigger + pram2 just kinda clears every stage

[tight osprey]

didn't think it's that easy

[gentle cove]

pram2 herself can delete the stages yeah

[tight osprey]

nice

[bright juniper]

even without pram2, this event is piss easy

[tight osprey]

should I invest pram2 mod?

quick question

[gentle cove]

lv 1 can add some damages

[bright juniper]

mod1 at most, but not a high prio if you have other stuff to raise

[tight osprey]

ok

uh

[gentle cove]

3%/mob

cap to 15

[tight osprey]

I see

ugh

I don't know how to do the minigame

[odd forge]

How to use sa2 s1?

I got confused

[gentle cove]

i kinda did it randomly, but a tip you can use is the combo
using following numbers can give you extra stuff

[tight osprey]

hm

[bright juniper]

you place down, he gives dp automatically and gives barriers to allies in deploy zone

imagine matsukiri s1/texas s1/any pioneer s1

[odd forge]

Ohhhh ok

[gentle cove]

in a good chain, you can gain quite a big amount of multiple mats

[rustic eagle]

I already forgot anything I read on that minigame it’s not a priority to do now is it

Like a daily thing or smth

[gentle cove]

nah

basically really

you get plan every "day"
1 to 5
you can use plan to advance or collect
need to advance to collect first
gotta complete orders
going into following chains of numbers gives combo

[rustic eagle]

tysm🙏 ill bash my head a bit at it tmrw

[gentle cove]

tbh the difficulty doesn't seem that high looking at how i am

[exotic grove]

this is a relatively easy event so far
even thornstar event was harder imo

[bright juniper]

not like any of the event minigames are hard

[gentle cove]

i hope EX levels won't be drastically harder 🙏

[exotic grove]

oh you talking minigame

[azure roost]

[gentle cove]

wait whats that char

[faint scaffold]

okay im stuck now lmao

[gentle cove]

is that lemuen on a gold wheelchair ?

[faint scaffold]

OS-7

[gentle cove]

use hoshi2 or sakiko for the mushroom i guess

[faint scaffold]

but where?

[gentle cove]

ascalon/sash2/logos/entelechia are great to take care of the swarm

[river atlas]

Its rosa with a cannon

[faint scaffold]

by bos or no?

box

[gentle cove]

id say ascalon where she'd hit the most, so in the first column aiming toward 2nd ?
entelechia in one of the row too, logos aiming toward box with perish may work ?

[faint scaffold]

perish?

[gentle cove]

hoshi2/sakiko plan is just to exterminate the mushroom ASAP (allow true damage to strike)

[faint scaffold]

also there is 2 boxes

[gentle cove]

right box is for mushroom i believe

[faint scaffold]

okay

[gentle cove]

logos s1 is perish

[gentle cove]

also yeah, right one is only mushroom

[faint scaffold]

lmao

[gentle cove]

mushrooms block the true damage AOE, that's usually the pain

killing them removes 90% of the difficulty by itself

[faint scaffold]

so where would i put hoshi?

[gentle cove]

like here

then you cast hell itself and kill them before hoshi get yeeted (will get stunned and highly damaged)

[faint scaffold]

okay

sa2 top left?

or right?

[gentle cove]

sa2/entelechia/etc to protect this area

like, you place them between that and before the true damage AOE

then you can just spam that avalanche whenever you need if mushrooms are gone and you win

[faint scaffold]

so where will sa2 go?

[gentle cove]

you can place him either column 1 or blue box, that's where the first swarm will go

[faint scaffold]

logos next to the box facing right?

[gentle cove]

that should clear a lot of the remaining ennemies i believe yeah

dunno about necrass if she's AOE but on the other side you can add a dps

also, mushrooms are weak to arts

[faint scaffold]

hmm

[gentle cove]

not sure if hoshi need mod to hit art or not, thats why i had mentionned sakiko

[faint scaffold]

i see

[gentle cove]

but yeah, that's what making you lose most likely on the mushroom

[faint scaffold]

done

[gentle cove]

small tip for 8 since im doing it rn for trustdeploy

the top area and the drone are the threats

[faint scaffold]

?

i see

[gentle cove]

drones will send a lot of bird
actually forgot my 2nd sniper lol

the middle lane is usually not that hard to deal with, and early on they will just spin

[faint scaffold]

this team okay for 8?

[short narwhal]

if you're wondering which units are getting the reduced dp cost of silver ash alter talent by eye of the storm, u can tap silver ash alter & see which units that are will be ready to get reduced cost. but if u tap the eye of the storm it will instead only show the amount of stack of his s2 that ally can use later after deployment, the free swing max 2 stack. u can read silver ash alter s2 skill it said units are on the left (prioritize by guard - caster - sniper) that is the closest to the eye of the storm will have -11dp when silver ash alter cast his s2 & it can be done multiple times. when there are no remaining units that sit on the right side of the eye of the storm, then the remaining left side will have cost reduction by 11 until they reach 0 dp

[gentle cove]

should be yeah

[faint scaffold]

kk

[gentle cove]

fyi i used that 🙏
ptilo/greyy/amiya for top, both kroos for drones, silverash/saria for mid line

[odd forge]

I feel I'm having burnout now

Because of my gamble

[faint scaffold]

beat 8

also oh no yuki

i kinda want lapp2

[prisma ledge]

How much True Dmg does Saintess Statue deal and what interactions happens with Ulpipi's S3?

[gentle cove]

im not sure theres anything special with ulp's s3
i dont see why there would be atleast

[prisma ledge]

I should probs experiment it right now

Brb

[gentle cove]

damage is high tho

[faint scaffold]

if i spark who should i get?

[gentle cove]

most meta or the one you prefer

[faint scaffold]

is lapp2 meta?

[gentle cove]

not sure

[faint scaffold]

okay

[gentle cove]

idk all meta chars tbh, i just start to know the chars

[faint scaffold]

nearly done 100 pulls

[wicked minnow]

preferably you stop pulling after you get sash2 and pram2

[faint scaffold]

i havent got pram2 yet anyway

[tall raptor]

So question how good is Sash alter? Thinking of replacing Myrtle with him

[wicked minnow]

quite a bit better than myrtle

[gentle cove]

in general content, he's quite insane

[wicked minnow]

it's not remotely close but yeah

[gentle cove]

even only at e1 his skill remove like 50 dp cost of my team

[faint scaffold]

damn

[gentle cove]

-11dp on anyone that cost more then 14 makes it go high fast tbh

[regal briar]

which skill that worth to train to next?

[rustic eagle]

Up to u but S3 recommended fs

[wicked minnow]

s3

[regal briar]

alright boys thanks

[slender nimbus]

how do you do 15-20?

been stuck for a bit. i die to time alot

[foggy grove]

down the mimic,nuke the boss

[slender nimbus]

i can read that

from the 15 attempts

[foggy grove]

but i can't read your roster

so lol

[slender nimbus]

these are my main lvld guys

[regal briar]

put blaze on the right side

wisadel or/and logos on the middle

virtuosa or/and ulpianus on the left side

[signal vector]

Mon3tr + gladiia + ulpi

Well, that is if u have all of them

[slender nimbus]

i do not got mon3tr

[slender nimbus]

base or alter blaze?

[signal vector]

Ulpi can solo left side blue box + kill the mimic machine, gladiia solo right side (if she's s1m3 modX lv3 ), mon3tr can DPS prts

[regal briar]

base blaze... face down for her to kill the annoying mob that cant be block

[gentle cove]

technically couldnt he replace mon3tr by wis?

[slender nimbus]

only have blaze alter sry

[regal briar]

yes

[signal vector]

Fck no

What is wis gonna do against a 3000 DEF dude?

[regal briar]

this is my squad

[gentle cove]

always thought mon3tr was a phys dps
mb then

[signal vector]

Monmon's a true dmg DPS bruh

[slender nimbus]

meh i wont need to auto it so ill just borrow a friends

[regal briar]

true but... wisadel still work

[signal vector]

Ye but ur pobably gonna use wis to kill fodders and elites instead of the boss

Like killing the "robot dispenser" and the golems

[slender nimbus]

ye i use her to dps the bosten dynamics dog enemy

[regal briar]

yep

[steel prairie]

which other operators have double talent boost for training guards ???

besides Whislash

[signal vector]

U can use those that reduce 50% training time

Like irene or logos for example

[steel prairie]

most of mine are at 30% guard training tho

and isnt Logos only for casters ???

[signal vector]

The 50% training time reduction applies to all

[steel prairie]

oh ok

[signal vector]

Only his training efficiency are restricted to casters and supporters

[steel prairie]

oh its because I didnt have him built

man all this time Im still missing Irene

[signal vector]

Lmao, e2 him then, after that your masteries should be a breeze

[jovial nest]

Boss is pretty fun.

feels like a raid boss

been a long time since i felt like i fought a Sui Xiang/Raid Boss in non-IS

[steel prairie]

Should I farm RMA or sugar ??? isnt RMA also on the next event ???

[jovial nest]

to be fair

the entire Lapptop rerun

is a dead farm event

2 clashing farm materials (RMA and Fluid)

and Mangos are now permanent in shop

altho Lapptop's event is the best time to stack on Mangos tho (both stage and shop) if you want such excess

[exotic grove]

what are mangos? grindstone?

[odd forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588921614303233/1493465027854860298/lv_0_20260414121221.mp4?ex=69df1131&is=69ddbfb1&hm=28b6e1ac8a3f038dc9f1530afec7d248666478e89c5d9dec8c9210d1c788b870&

[jovial nest]

manganese

[odd forge]

Try this one

15-20

[exotic grove]

oh the purple stuff

[exotic grove]

where franka

[odd forge]

@slender nimbus

[odd forge]

She's dead

[exotic grove]

L bozo

[odd forge]

Demn I forgor to set record 16-16

[steel prairie]

the issue for me is that Im in dire situation for sugar (ran out)

it went from 300 to 0

[jovial nest]

then go for it

the only bad farm in this event is Fluid

[deft bramble]

what am i supposed to do on os-10

[exotic grove]

protect the silverash bloodline

[fierce narwhal]

Protect Praminax, she just has to pray at the four designated spots, then phase two is just beating the shit out of Kjara when her shield gets broken by Pram

[deft bramble]

oh

ok thanks

[deft bramble]

lmao sakiko just solo dps'd

she's so good

[fierce narwhal]

Yeah, S3 go PIANO NOISES

[elder flume]

Seems like SA2 helps Bag dp gen but its delayed check and quite weird of a calc

6 enemies kill x 3 dp gen stage
6 enemies kill x 2 dp gen Bag
a second delay

[sacred phoenix]

Is it possible to beat os-10 with this team

[elder flume]

prob

its just hit aerial and protect Pram simulator

[sacred phoenix]

let's hope i don't skill issue too much

[elder flume]

Sakiko solos the stage if you need vid

[sacred phoenix]

plz

i need it

[sacred phoenix]

are you there?

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13s1nBdEFJ/

[sacred phoenix]

thank you chinese players

[hidden axle]

Ppl are really stuck on os-10

[sacred phoenix]

yeah cuz im a freshie

[toxic flume]

Ok bro wtf

[sacred phoenix]

0 cost gaming

[toxic flume]

Annihilation DP problem is gone rn

[toxic flume]

I borrowing SliverAsh since I use Materials to E2 Pram

[odd forge]

What is that thing like my shining balls

I tried to click nothing worked

I don't understand, my brain is broken

[prisma swift]

huh wtf is this stage

[hidden axle]

Kay you are excused then

[wicked minnow]

yoooooooooooooo

that's dope as hell

sadly wont be getting sash2 it seems

maybe in a year when he pops up in spark

[limpid ore]

funny thing

infinite duration afk skill get fucked by avalanche

[elder flume]

use Lava instead

+35 initial sp moment

[sacred phoenix]

i couldn't beat it

im a bum

it's over

this is probably because my haruka is still e1

[hidden axle]

Yk

I just saw your roster

[bitter void]

i think the biggest problem in os-10 is your ops being oneshot by being moved right because you didn't kill all orbs in time

i don't think you need that much healing

[hidden axle]

Mechanics fucking ppl more than the boss istg

Reading check event

[bitter void]

just make sure to skill up and kill orbs

big hordes in p2 solve themselves with the avalanche summon

[limpid ore]

it wont kill immediately if the tile you get push into is deployable

[elder flume]

me when i dont heal shifted ops

and then they die the next shift

[limpid ore]

shield

[hidden axle]

Simply dont deploy in avalanche zones

[limpid ore]

simply just use the device that stop avalanche build up

and stop enemies from entering it

what doesnt kill you, doesnt kill you

[bitter void]

i think there are too many balls flung at pramanix for that

iin p2

[elder flume]

ngl idk what ops to even use since every op is a shifter

they either kill enemies too much or the need to bring shifters are nullified

and that theoretical Shaw E0 1 all hole solo that fails if you raised her

[limpid ore]

use the first device to trigger avalanche faster

weaponize the natural disaster

[hidden axle]

I didnt notice the devices until I was done with the event

[sacred phoenix]

awesome sauce

my roster is just bullshit on bullshit i can't no boss

it took me 4 weeks of brainstorming to beat patriot

it's THAT bad

[hidden axle]

Sakiko should be solving all bosses for you

I hope thats s3, looks like it is

[elder flume]

it is but looks SL7

OS 10 has a slight rng

[exotic grove]

and we don't know mod level do we

[sacred phoenix]

level 1

im broke

all my mods are level 1

[exotic grove]

get her mod2 asap
sakichan wants mod2 bare minimum
she's DOA without it

[sacred phoenix]

with waht materials💔

[elder flume]

with grind

[faint scaffold]

anything i need to keep in mind for OS-9?

[faint scaffold]

still got this team

[elder flume]

just shift all enemies to right wall

[faint scaffold]

shift?

[pearl compass]

Push with Shaw 4☆

[faint scaffold]

oh

[elder flume]

thats a lot of solo

[faint scaffold]

but she can only push forward

[elder flume]

you just use the statues to shift

5k true damage

extra 5-7k if hit wall

[near pilot]

i love you thorns...

[faint scaffold]

u won

i*

[azure roost]

@plucky flint back to trust farming

[faint scaffold]

enjoy lol

[wicked minnow]

actual peak

🎦

[azure roost]

oh ye how pulls

shil

[wicked minnow]

60 pulls and got pram2

i think im stopping here cuz i have 20 pulls to my name

[hidden axle]

Welfareknights player gacha-ing

[azure roost]

@wicked minnow did 54

[azure roost]

got last pot for skadi2

[azure roost]

hax

[near pilot]

forgetting to activate sakiko skill:

[wicked minnow]

did you get either pram2 or sash2?

[azure roost]

no lol

my alt got mumu

main got skadi2 last pot

[hidden axle]

Can I flex my 46 pulls

[azure roost]

[hidden axle]

[azure roost]

ur whel

so no

[wicked minnow]

wtf

unlucky

or lucky

[azure roost]

@wicked minnow my jp got ulpi dupe

[wicked minnow]

actually that's just unlucky

[azure roost]

at 55

[hidden axle]

Tbh I did want to farm some gold certs

[wicked minnow]

😭

[azure roost]

so ye

54 for skadi2 dupe

[hidden axle]

F2p

[azure roost]

alt is 30 for mumu jumpscare

new doe

jp is ulpi dupe at 55

@wicked minnow

[wicked minnow]

[azure roost]

but ye this is first time to have p6 limited

pot6 skadi2

3 came from offrate from diff prev limited banner

other 2 dupe came from royal token

[daring escarp]

Yea i did that stage with pram s2 solo

Stage is really just doable with any blocker

[azure roost]

@wicked minnow

snow hunter already m5

since used instant m3 for s2

only left is trust

same for veto

[wicked minnow]

that team looks so clean

[azure roost]

only pot left

which pain to get on 5★

[odd forge]

[daring escarp]

If only raidian counted as ursus

[hidden axle]

She is technically ursine

[daring escarp]

Thats why if she counted as ursus

Would've been funnier team comp

[hidden axle]

Just add her

[azure roost]

she is

[azure roost]

formerly lived there

so add her lol

this niche is bears only

not nationality

[azure roost]

wtf rhis acc

[elder flume]

Vigna + SA2 hm

oh its more than that due to trait change

[daring escarp]

But you cant helidrop to use s2

So the slashes wont work

[elder flume]

you can under the right circumstances

[daring escarp]

Right..

[elder flume]

Bag + SA2 is alr 22 sp
1 sp from timed Stainless
2 sp from Aak Liskarm
or just get the CB +4 sp battery

just a matter of making sure theres an enemy in front of Vigna and it procs talent first attack

[daring escarp]

Talent doesn't affect atk

[elder flume]

it does

[azure roost]

rain chan haxxing

[daring escarp]

When attacking, has a 10% chance to increase the current damage of that attack by 110% (+10%). The chance increases to 30% when Vigna's skill is active.

[elder flume]

despite it saying atk scale its atk buff

mod fixed the wording

[daring escarp]

Wtf

[elder flume]

ive played Vigna since year 1 and made her hit 11k atk before

[daring escarp]

[wicked minnow]

astgenne2 s1 is bounce like podenco s2 huh. didnt bother to test till now

astgenne s2 vs astgenne2 s1:
against 1 enemy astgenne has about 606 dps and astgenne2 has 1k dps
2 enemies astgenne has 2.4k dps while astgenne2 has 3k dps
3 enemies astgenne has 3.6k dps while astgenne 2 is 3k dps

very interesting

sadly astgenne2 s1 doesnt have range extention like botany

[azure roost]

@wicked minnow shil

i have to m9 another unit again on alt

its astg2

[wicked minnow]

may this information be of great use to you

[ashen pewter]

So who is a better partner with SA2, Mumu or Ines? Or both?

[vital arrow]

is neither an option

[scarlet fulcrum]

ppl still baited by old vid 🐛

[elder flume]

partner for what

[hidden axle]

Those 'strats' are memes, not legitimate stuff to do

Also it got fixed iirc

No more ines s3 0 dp swap

[elder flume]

idt Ines ever worked

day 1 tested

[hidden axle]

It did on cn

[hidden axle]

But then this happened

[ashen pewter]

Ohhh i guess i guess. Ill just swap out my flagbearer for SA2 and run him with Ines then for General Vanguard.

[elder flume]

prob missed it then

[ashen pewter]

I mean Ines is generally great on her own.

[elder flume]

i remember it only working for Mumu before fix

[wheat arch]

I dont think Ines Salter swap was a thing

It was never a thing

Even on day 1

[elder flume]

ikr

[ashen pewter]

How about using Ines S3 with SA2 S2?

[elder flume]

for what

[ashen pewter]

Does the schwing schwing work?

I mean if you redeploy her and continuously recharge her with SA2

[elder flume]

she doesnt need S3 in the first place for slash

2nd or 3rd sure might take a few skill use to proc

you can just keep using SA2 skill infinite times until everyone is leftside of eye

[hidden axle]

It works even after ops are on leftside

[azure roost]

[hidden axle]

Thats how I reached 4-5 ops at 0 dp in one stage

[scarlet fulcrum]

truly dp hacks

[terse veldt]

It haven't got fix tho lol

Maybe it's just another feature

[elder flume]

ye slash application is still here for EN

maybe i misremembered how Mumu SA2 worked zz

tested infinite S3 for too long

[plucky flint]

any findings on this bug/feature?

[pearl compass]

What bug exactly?

Ah, I see

The Revenants won't delpoy on frozen golem tiles.

[prisma elk]

Just a funny thing in the same stage

[elder flume]

after 999999s it will forcibly kill itself

[rustic eagle]

Now that I play them some more and without support

These stages are pretty fun

~~and not that hard still ~~

[plucky flint]

did u get ur lapptop now

[fallen bane]

Does silverash alter s3 apply to two other operator or only one?

[elder flume]

1

[fallen bane]

Thank you

[rustic eagle]

Im hesitating on wether its actually worth it

It will depend on my luck

I got nothing with my orundum pulls for now so we’ll see

[plucky flint]

ye can just wait till the last day to go all out

but that's not the case for me

[rustic eagle]

I did dump all my orundum

But I’ll wait for the OP yea

[plucky flint]

no luck for that?

[rustic eagle]

Indeed no luck yet

[left egret]

As it is a strategy channel. Give me advise on my gambling strategy. I got both rate ups in current banner(and only them) but still we get free daily pulls + I have pretty much 120 pulls in OP and can buy tickets from gold serts shop(have 280ish gold serts). So, right now I am waiting till the end of the banner when they will introduce us the pick 3 out of 6 banner(I suppose they will looking back to what we had with previous banners) which if not changed from cn one will be must pull for me. But if it changes and becomes bad to invest in, should I pull till next 6* in the current limited or already save for wang limited one

[sly drift]

Normal stage is pretty much absolute nothing. EX and S stages is the real thing

And mechanism wise. I feel like Ex and S going to be insane.

[hidden axle]

Yeah there's potential here for sure

[faint scaffold]

any tips for OS-10?

[hidden axle]

..

[faint scaffold]

yes?

[hidden axle]

Oml how many of you skip reading mechanics and skim tutorials

[faint scaffold]

how helpful

[hidden axle]

Indeed

Go read mechanics if it wasjt obvious

[faint loom]

i watched kyostin for this

[faint scaffold]

thanks valk

[glass monolith]

I didn't skip any reading and quit on OS-7 because there is only that much reading I can do in row

[rustic eagle]

Skip the lore reading instead/j

[glass monolith]

Screw that, I need that Monch

[rustic eagle]

Pramanix #inspiring

[rustic eagle]

Kill the snowballs and the bats

The rest of the mobs concern yourself with the least possible

[hidden axle]

Simply read mechanics

Its not so hard

Theres nothing to struggle with in os-10 unless newbie

[rustic eagle]

Hey can’t know what they’re struggling w specifically

[hidden axle]

I remembee them

Not the first time they skipped mechanics

Also not reading mechanics is about the only reason ppl have struggled from what I have seen, and thats the only thing to worry about so far

[faint scaffold]

yeah cuz that helpped a lot

[rustic eagle]

Fair enough

[faint scaffold]

not like i didnt read or anything

snow balls kill my ops

[hidden axle]

Wha

Not even avalanche?

[faint scaffold]

why would that kill them

[plucky flint]

what snowball

[rustic eagle]

I lowkey just killed the snowballs but you can probably bait them with frdp units

[hidden axle]

If yiu skip mechanics they would and who tf dies to snowballs

[faint scaffold]

they explode and kill duh

[rustic eagle]

The boss throws destructible snowballs

[hidden axle]

Yk

Aggro?

[faint scaffold]

cuz that helps when they are dead

[hidden axle]

Deploy a defender last or sth with a medic beforehand

[faint scaffold]

defender dies then medic dies

[hidden axle]

Sounds like leveling issue

Which shouldnt be in your case

[rustic eagle]

Try to bait with fodder units

[faint scaffold]

or it doesnt target the defender even after being put after

[hidden axle]

But show your squad anyways

[rustic eagle]

Oh woah I didn’t expect this

[faint scaffold]

what

[hidden axle]

...

[rustic eagle]

I see it now

[faint scaffold]

again what

[elder flume]

Sakiko S1

[rustic eagle]

Well some of your units are pretty strong

[hidden axle]

Yeah sorry I am done, hope someone else comes along or watch some guide- wtf sakiko s1????

[faint scaffold]

why did she have s1 the hell

[hidden axle]

Chabge hwr skill to s3 from operator page not squad

[faint scaffold]

thought i did

[craggy heron]

if u changed the skill in operators page you would have to add her again or change it manually in the squad

[faint scaffold]

no wonder why she felt so weak

[craggy heron]

the game mentioned this sometimes

[faint scaffold]

let me try again

[plucky flint]

do you not noticed that in the whole run

[faint scaffold]

i was looking at a lot of thing

things

[elder flume]

Pram too cute

[plucky flint]

valid

[faint scaffold]

done

[faint loom]

is some enemy got stat buff in this update patch?

most of my automatic deployment stage can't be cleared now

[woven plinth]

They were fixing some stages iirc

[faint loom]

aaah

that makes sense, lmao
i thought ines got shadow nerf

[void terrace]

Question, on pramalt s2 passive snow damage, it it considered directional or sourced from her

That could mean it can spread burn or necrosis from yu or virtuosa

[serene onyx]

hello im newbie which operator i should take please suggest to me

this my main team

[elder flume]

source

[void terrace]

But not directional?

[elder flume]

she insta dies to reflect

[pearl compass]

Pins in #help > Camelot.

[elder flume]

idk what you mean by directional tbh

[void terrace]

Wondering if I could slot her into yu burn team

[serene onyx]

ok

[void terrace]

She could spread burn over a massive area if it works

[elder flume]

directional only matters for Bison Wanqing Hung

[void terrace]

As in if she's behind the firewall will snow damage proc burn

[elder flume]

thats called sourced yes

[void terrace]

OoooH

Damn gonna try that

[elder flume]

they still havent fixed 16-3 targeting tis funi

[void terrace]

Damn saalter and vulp are my new favorite vanguard pair

Self healing vanguards

With a lot of disruption

I feel that Ines saalter is a bit messy caus if you are using s2, you don't get consistent real dp

But if you use s3, Ines gets cost swapped instead since she's usually lowest cost

[elder flume]

?

12 dp Ines

is it that common to have that as cheapest in squad

[void terrace]

Been playing with this squad

It's a bit finicky and dosent have any particular strong point but it has a lot of random tools to deal with random things

Compared to my previous squad which focused on two separate damage groups for ultra fast charging sakiko for ST and mantra trag for aoe

Dusk is just there for Sui sibling buff and she's my bias

[silver tartan]

Hey guys is this team good enough for os-10? heres my krooster https://www.krooster.com/u/nick

[glass monolith]

Surely it can't fail with Logos and Sakiko (I didn't play OS-10)

[silver tartan]

idk my first attempt is sucked

[rustic eagle]

Just do some more

[silver tartan]

idk i'm feeling like my team kinda lacking a good hill operator

[rustic eagle]

What you have is the avengers compared to that stage

[silver tartan]

Or maybe I’m just downplaying myself

[rustic eagle]

I confused your roster w the other guy’s btw mb

But still should’ve been plenty strong

You still have half the avengers

[sly drift]

Tbh you don't even need consistent real dp with Silveralt on your team anyway.

He is just too good.

[silver tartan]

I mean yea

[void terrace]

True but i find starts a bit slower

Caus I'm forced to use the discounted operator if I want to be fast

[wary onyx]

I cant figure out how do you beat IC S 4 with the drone spawning behind killing everyone and the things that deals tons of dmg

[sly drift]

I mean that's literally the SAlt purpose?

Your scenario is You deploy SAlt and immediately sakiko in 9dp
That's already early game safe

[void terrace]

I mean he's just my vanguard but I like being able to have more flexibility in deploy order

Sakiko needs to be later to guarantee monst3r buff

If space is crowded

[fleet edge]

Oh my god

It stacks

You can redeploy Texas and Yato every 6 seconds

[void terrace]

Yes.

[fleet edge]

That’s crazy 😭

[void terrace]

40% redeploy time things

You know who benefits

Seige alter

Among others

[rustic eagle]

its multiplicative ibelieve

[foggy grove]

what 6 seconds

[fleet edge]

It’s not
You can get 0 redeploy in IS

[void terrace]

Redeploy is additive

[rustic eagle]

u certain?

[fleet edge]

It’s as insane as it sounds

[void terrace]

It's quite bs

[fleet edge]

Sash+sash synergy

Why even have units on the field

Who else has redeploy shenanigans aside from sash

[foggy grove]

have you actually tried this?

[rustic eagle]

could check on tomimi dev

[fleet edge]

My sash2 is e1 and my sash doesn’t have the mod yet but I can simply just go record the redeploy timer real quick twice

But I see no reason to think it works otherwise

Cuz you can easily get 0 redeploy in IS

[glass monolith]

Anything that is not 8 tiles around boss outside baiting orbs which need to be retreated around 50% HP phase 1 boss unless you want to find out

[fleet edge]

1 with no sash 1 with sashes
Sash no module
Sash2 e1
So total if additive should be 25% redeploy reduc

[sly drift]

Its around 11s

[fleet edge]

Mod3 sash?

[sly drift]

This is when your fast redeploy max pot

[fleet edge]

9s redeploy timer

Texas is going to spend more time doing her skill than not

[sly drift]

Yes.. and maxpot both silverash and Silveralt too

[fleet edge]

Spicy

Double sash super redeploy meta sounds hilarious
We need more redeploy reduction units

What’s Surtrs redeploy time

[sly drift]

You must deploy the fast redeploy op around him

To get max -redeploy time

Which is uhhhhh

[fleet edge]

Ya og sash needs a better mod

[foggy grove]

so quick maf says not all of it is additive

cba to figure out which one is not

[hidden axle]

Its multiplicative

[brittle radish]

chat, give me deployment order for 14-21 adverse mode (vs. theresa, unlocking medicmiya)

[fleet edge]

If it’s multiplicative I guess it’s only 0.80.90.9=0.648
Rather than 0.6 redeploy time

[odd forge]

Holy shit SA S3 + frostleaf is op combo

[glass monolith]

Use \ to avoid symbols be used as part of text formating stuff

[glass monolith]

One swingtalion of damage!

[brittle radish]

SA S2 + ulpianus too

[glass monolith]

Btw, isn't April have flat redeploy reduction which is added after percent ones

[elder flume]

Its because SA rounds down

[fleet edge]

I’m conflicted on which og sash skin looks nicer

[fleet edge]

I dont play w April though

[glass monolith]

Sad IS Rosmontis sounds

[sly drift]

The most absurd ones is probably Skadi. This high atk boost with only 22s cooldown.

Nuclear bomb fast redeploy

[rustic eagle]

Wait wdym👀

[fleet edge]

Meta Sash+Sash
1 wang sitting in the middle
And redeploy Texas and Yato everywhere and clear every stage blind

[fleet edge]

Does the team even need Myrtle

Or are you just using for convenience

[foggy grove]

texas and yato should end up on right side after 2 redeploy

[fleet edge]

I was under the impression he generates so much dp you don’t need more

[sly drift]

[fleet edge]

That’s what Sash s2 is for

[sly drift]

Yea.. it's quite a mess in long run after you redeploy it too much.

[fleet edge]

Should be fine if you manage to put down the rest of your ops

So only Texas and Yato are not deployed

And whatever units you wanna redeploy

Pref only 1 more max

Probably don’t want an entire team of fast redeploys cuz it gets messy

[glass monolith]

We need POO2 with "Ally can't be redeployed" Risk

[weak gazelle]

i see some struggle with this map(?) but how?

[foggy grove]

that map is easy tho

[fleet edge]

I beat it with blue lady and blue dragons

Trust farm all day

[rustic eagle]

Is this particularly relevant to post 😭

[foggy grove]

the blizzard do most of the works

[exotic grove]

it just requires more ground presence

[weak gazelle]

yeah when avalanche do all the hard work :icant:

[fleet edge]

I see some people think ines is a better Vanguard than Sash2 but it also kind of feels like Sash2 is like a specialist that also happens to generate dp to me

I’m not exactly sure how do you compare them

[foggy grove]

you mean ines

[fleet edge]

Right

Ye

Oop

[sly drift]

I don't know when will they patch it (Or not being patched at all). But if you have mumu, you can do this every 100s to bypass the mess. Look at how it literally bypass the "Right side" issue and SAlt still buffs every single operator lmao

[glass monolith]

Glory to Res E

[fleet edge]

Surely it’s not worth it to run her just for this

[weak gazelle]

sa2 huh
i didnt test him that much but for gen/easy content he just another vg

[fleet edge]

We’re looking at giga fast redeploy strats cus it stacks with sash

-40% redeploy or smth

[sly drift]

Wdym not worth it . If you want to play fast redeploy comp. This will fix your main issue

[fleet edge]

Full redeploy comp 😭

[weak gazelle]

compare to ines..... it will be case by case comparison

[glass monolith]

Who the hells paying dp for that

[weak gazelle]

believe some map/condition favor ines and vice versa

[sly drift]

Or maybe fast redeploy comp isn't really that worth it to begin with. But it's fun

[fleet edge]

My idea of spamming fast redeploy is just sash Texas and Yato and maybe Surtr

And the rest you just plop around the blue box and afk

[sly drift]

It's peak 2026 Arknights

[fleet edge]

Sash2 generates by far the most dp of every vanguard but it’s also the least interesting part of his kit

[weak gazelle]

can say that way too, yeah

[fleet edge]

Pram2 has synergy with sash2 cuz it lets you x2 speed braindead redeploy every stage while she doesn’t let some random mook leak

Big brain

[weak gazelle]

he 'produce' that much dp to compensate with his utility

[fleet edge]

Compensate with his utility?
Aren’t you supposed to give up something in return for utility

[weak gazelle]

yes, he trade it with his shitty base stat

[sly drift]

There's no such thing as give up something in return for SAlt utility other than your braincell slowly rotten tbh lol.

[fleet edge]

My braincell has disappeared already after I started deploying Texas every time I make a mistake

[rustic eagle]

Sash?

They’re better than vulpis’s btw iirc

[weak gazelle]

where he better than vulpis?

[rustic eagle]

Stat wise

[fleet edge]

Which skin is nicer

I’ll buy one

I’m using em both together anyways

[plucky flint]

winter pairs well with sash2

[foggy grove]

winter is better

[sly drift]

It's completely up to your taste. I personally like the pirate tbh

[weak gazelle]

yeah you right
stat wise he better

[rustic eagle]

Yea so he’s not giving up shit😭

Greedy mf

Greedy HG

[weak gazelle]

no
he still shit stat wise

[rustic eagle]

Okay ofc he’s a vanguard

[sly drift]

Why are we coping vanguard base stats bro

It's should be out of question

[weak gazelle]

because he designed not to tank and spank like pioneer do

[rustic eagle]

And yet he has better stat than the last 6 star pioneer

[weak gazelle]

vulpis able to lanehold with that stat because her kit designed to do so

wait its gone off topic :icant:

[rustic eagle]

Meh

Its not like she by design would have lower stats than a vanguard with high DP gen and a billion utility

[fleet edge]

[weak gazelle]

yeah better stop
think what i say didnt translate it very well

[fleet edge]

For Thorns if I were to get a module which one do y’all think is better

[hidden axle]

Thorns1?

[fleet edge]

Yea

[hidden axle]

Do you have to mod him

[fleet edge]

I haven’t got anything for him yet

I mean might as well?

Even mod1 is a 10% buff

[hidden axle]

Sure its an improvement but thorns himself is washed, average at best
Are you sure you wsnt to dump more resources into him

[fleet edge]

I mean he’s lvl90 for me already pre invested 4 years ago

[hidden axle]

Modx lvl 1 if you must

Thing is delta needs lvl 3

x is less investment

[fleet edge]

I’m holding onto 41 module blocks rn

[hidden axle]

41 is pretty loe

Iirc a 6 star needs 12 for lvl 3

Upto lvl 3*

[fleet edge]

I don’t have that many 6 stars tho

Yea I mod3ed my first unit just now, Chalter

[hidden axle]

Future planning

[fleet edge]

No Wisadel so she works for now

[hidden axle]

Also get ros IS mod

If you likr IS

[fleet edge]

Lvl1 e1 op

[hidden axle]

Raise

[plucky flint]

41 is

[fleet edge]

I’m not made of LMD

[hidden axle]

Can I see your base

By that I mean riic report

For last 3 days

[fleet edge]

Mine I literally just returned after quitting for 4 years

All the recent progress has been made in a week

[hidden axle]

Is sham e2

[fleet edge]

Two

Ye

Just leveled her

[keen kettle]

How's swire alter?

[hidden axle]

sounds like not defective base, phew

[hidden axle]

Not for the average player

And by that I mean she has few usecases in high diff IS

Else nah

[fleet edge]

My next unit to raise is probably pram2

Which will be promptly power crept by Wang

[hidden axle]

Shrimply use both

(Hey she got utility)

[fleet edge]

Do I need to? Doesn’t Wang just solo entire stages

[rustic eagle]

Shit I didn’t think of that

[hidden axle]

He does but that goes for everyone not just pram2

[fleet edge]

I mean Wang is the specialist tag so Pram2 will still be useful in caster tag

[hidden axle]

Pram2's utility is still good regqrdless

[fleet edge]

[chrome burrow]

how do I clear OS-10, I can't deal with the flying guys at all

[rustic eagle]

Yuh but still she’s the most recent release

[hidden axle]

Good for gen content, drafed im high diff IS asw

[rustic eagle]

Are you using borrows

[fleet edge]

Wang+ fast redeploys + double sash

Turn off brain

Every single mistake play Texas

[hidden axle]

Pram2 to freeze blue box
And nuke with wang

[fleet edge]

[chrome burrow]

I was but kept dying so I used a support haruka but then now I can't deal with the flying guys

[hidden axle]

Even more braindeadge

[plucky flint]

I think I need to replay os-10, I might have brute force it so much that I didn't know what the mechanics are

[hidden axle]

There isnt

It feels like a year 1-2 boss

[rustic eagle]

If you’re lazy you va jus copy an arkrec run

[hidden axle]

Just uh dont deploy in avalanche zones

[plucky flint]

how are ppl getting stuck tho

[rustic eagle]

But either way if you can kill the birds you can clear the stage

[hidden axle]

Most of them skipped mechanics

[rustic eagle]

So get someone that can do that

Wis works for example lol

[hidden axle]

And maybe not keeping pram alive ig

[fleet edge]

But yea Pram2 is like BiS for 3 months and then completely power crept by Wang

[rustic eagle]

Well wang doesn’t have the pull ig

[plucky flint]

wang can't afk

[fleet edge]

Will Logos still be relevant with Wang around

[hidden axle]

Logos is irrelavant with pram2

[rustic eagle]

And the push too ig

[hidden axle]

What do you think would happen with wang

[keen kettle]

Which one should I pick Lapland alter or Texas alter?

[hidden axle]

And yeah once again pram2 has utility

[fleet edge]

[hidden axle]

Helpful for hard content

[fleet edge]

Texas imo

[hidden axle]

Cant solo them all with wang

[hidden axle]

Have wis?

[rustic eagle]

I’ve seen funny cheese things with her push in IS

Not that i understand any of it but

[keen kettle]

Yessir

[fleet edge]

Texas alter is just good forever

[hidden axle]

Uh then its kinda whatever

Muelsyse has some niche

But will you ever use it

[fleet edge]

If a better fast redeploy comes you just play Texas and the other redeploy

[rustic eagle]

Is that the bind

[hidden axle]

Yeah

[keen kettle]

I'm thinking Texas too. I have logos got pram but no good fast redeploy

[hidden axle]

Ethan best binder but lets assume spec baj

Use s2 if yiu are going to use tex2

[plucky flint]

frd are just panic button

depends on what you really need tbh

[hidden axle]

S3 is just a stunbomb these days

[plucky flint]

treat s2 as frd surtr

[hidden axle]

Her roles these days are

• panic button
• 10s of -30% res
• stunbomb

Some say her s2 still kills elites but uh personally not sure about that, need to test more

[fleet edge]

Panic button that’s available so often with double sash that it’s the solve stage for me I don’t want to think button

My fav

[hidden axle]

Actually

Could you wait until last day

If CN announces monhun collab with yato2 meanwhile

[plucky flint]

my general squad is just gg+lapp and 2 panic buttons

[hidden axle]

Theres your better frd

[plucky flint]

yato2 is a sidegrade

[fleet edge]

The stun is such a big portion of Texas

[hidden axle]

Not anymore apparently

[rustic eagle]

Btw do gg and Lapp have good applications in IS

[fleet edge]

?

[hidden axle]

Well atleast high diff IS prefers yato2 over tex2

[plucky flint]

not worth the hope

[hidden axle]

for gen content both work as panic buttons

[plucky flint]

but u can just stack atk speed and they kill everything in map

[fleet edge]

You mean just the current IS

[hidden axle]

No

[fleet edge]

[hidden axle]

All

[rustic eagle]

How come

[prisma swift]

wtf pram2 2 op chernobog afk clear

[hidden axle]

Tex2 actually isnt used anywhere in hard cintent last I checked

IS5 even has a dedicated yato2 comp

[fleet edge]

What do you mean by hard content

[hidden axle]

(Which nweds max pot yato2)

[fleet edge]

Huh

Competitive IS?

[hidden axle]

High risk cc/high diff IS

[fleet edge]

That’s a thing?

[hidden axle]

Tournaments do be a thing for IS actually

[fleet edge]

[hidden axle]

#tournament

[rustic eagle]

Is it lack of util

[hidden axle]

Ezcept its dead now

[fleet edge]

I don’t believe in competitive IS

[hidden axle]

Tbh idk how they function eithee

All ik is they involve cash rewards

Moni moni moni

[fleet edge]

Pretty sure high CC if we ever use them Tex alter would be more relevant

Simply off the stun

[hidden axle]

Except she isnt being used