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plucky flint
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bard mods isn't that good from the start ReedBean

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welp, the guy is already gone so I'll just try later

elder flume
river atlas
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Is mantra s3 procing off of gladiia’s failed skill use

elder flume
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ye

river atlas
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And it refunds gladiia’s sp?

elder flume
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ye

river atlas
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Neat

elder flume
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doesnt work on Nian the same way for some reason

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Cutter is the best for skill cancel since she doesnt need Stainless turret

river atlas
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nian?

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Does her s3 require another op to be within range

elder flume
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ye

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i tried Stainless skill outside range but turret within and it didnt proc

weak gazelle
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yeah my half assed CE buildRedOmegaLul
built her back then solely for pre expan IS5 tacfort run (i need her s2)

river atlas
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I assume just coded differently

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using skill and then refunding the sp when check fails vs checking first maybe

elder flume
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Nian also refunds sp

plucky flint
elder flume
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Gladiia procs Mantra the moment she starts skill

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river atlas
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if the check is coded before skill activation it might just not be using the sp at all rather than a refund

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Even for failed skill uses, gladiia and cutter play the sp lockout animation on their sp bar

elder flume
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i wana try something with Mantra Ash but i dont have both

river atlas
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How are u doing that thing with nian exactly

scarlet fulcrum
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Nian more like interrupted ig, just effect of s3 there

astral cosmos
astral cosmos
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sad

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I do have s2m3 ash but oh well

elder flume
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i assume Mantra will proc off the orange bar but Ash is a 2 step skill

high torrent
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What the fuck is this stage

scarlet fulcrum
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Oh yea this one will be good for Nian comparison

pearl compass
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Just live until time limit

high torrent
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My phone can barely keep up the fps

pearl compass
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I don't see good ops tho

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At all

high torrent
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I know

river atlas
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Low rarity clear?

pearl compass
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Where your Mlynar?

high torrent
high torrent
pearl compass
jovial nest
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what are these 4 things for?
I thought they were to unlock H16 maps

high torrent
jovial nest
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but they're still here

elder flume
astral cosmos
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this looks like low rarity only

pearl compass
narrow pendant
high torrent
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I might build bubble for the ad

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Idk

elder flume
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map is all high def enemy and youre running phys with no buffer debuffer so ye

scarlet fulcrum
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Just start a bit late surely

elder flume
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how long does it take for full rock clear

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assuming civ never comes into contact with enemy

weak gazelle
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it took 3-4 minute

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the hard part is when they run from their spawn :icant:

scarlet fulcrum
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And adverse too to save sanity

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First time adverse+normal cost 1x sanity starting from ch15

weak gazelle
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sometime i feel angry with miners spawn and behaviour
cant predict it at all (maybe because my potato device) sometime they late by few frames sometime faster :icant:

scarlet fulcrum
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Welp probably already have 5 miners on fields, good thing this map doesn't have that device

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oh standby mode can only summon 3, atk mode up to 5. Each 15s

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Said the wiki

elder flume
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So just time the stage start 3 mins later hm

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Borrow a clock

scarlet fulcrum
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Game booster have timer

weak gazelle
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yeah its 3 min if top miner didnt distractedRedOmegaLul

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or else he do stupid thing by hit imperial striker instead and secret ending failed :icant:

hidden axle
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Man so I gotta play half the stage for the ending FiaDed

elder flume
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Surely just vg spam into Mostima Weedy

hidden axle
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My mostima isnt moduled or masteried FiaDed

weak gazelle
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gladiia weedy didnt work here?PtiloThonk

hidden axle
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I also have to play h16-3 and h16-4, havent found time yet

elder flume
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How do you have H unlocked without 16-17 Bnuuy

hidden axle
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Yk

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Dialogue cheese

elder flume
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Sanity loss smh

hidden axle
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I definitely didnt EN the red text trust

regal briar
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Is there any chance for me to complete H16-2 with all of these operators?
I’m a returning player and haven’t gotten any new OP operators.

maiden hound
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high chance

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and if you find it too hard to tank the bear just borrow tragodia

regal briar
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Havnt try him

maiden hound
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angle is to use skill 2 (borrow a Tragodia with min. 585 atk), drop his summon to lure, then use cheap disposable unit like gravel to bait blocked hits

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you know funny thing is that your account would still be somewhat top tier. just that these bosses are annoyingly gimmicky

thick sphinx
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Holy shit thx

regal briar
thick sphinx
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Holy shit the vid uses a replica of my acc basically DocSmile

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Thx, imma go try it out in a bit once my phone is charged

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That I get it

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But the bear just eats away everything pretty quick

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Guess i need to place haruka first

jovial nest
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What are these for?

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I thought they'd be gone as H16 unlocks

lethal ferry
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Unlocking the hidden stages

jovial nest
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i already did those

craggy heron
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they just sit in your backpack

jovial nest
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ehhhh

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oh well

thick sphinx
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Cuz they sm without use and still it stays in the inv

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But hey

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I could be completely wrong aswell smsm

daring escarp
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Is it possible to use s2 ifrit so that the bear kills yurodstvo?

noble pewter
frail sage
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hello any tips for h16-4, the bear boss in the 2nd phase is too fast for me to deal with
i had tragodia, two healers, ulpi, and ines placed down, was gonna place down hoshi but bear is a bit too fast

lethal ferry
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Ulpianus is no use for the bear, use hoshi1 instead

noble pewter
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Let ur unit get redeployed by the stage 1 transition too so they r cooldown faster instead of manual retreat which can mess up availability timing

frail sage
frail sage
daring escarp
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Tp yurodstvo to bear and do his things

frail sage
thick sphinx
lethal ferry
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The bear can do basically nothing to particularly high defence operators, Ulpianus as a crusher has 0 defence and is possibly the worst option to tank the bear

daring escarp
thick sphinx
thick sphinx
plucky flint
lethal ferry
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I’m half convinced that the bear was designed to counter Ulpianus specifically

frail sage
thick sphinx
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16-12 or H2 or H4?

lethal ferry
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All three

thick sphinx
frail sage
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i cleared h16-2 with ulpi tanking the bear LappDumb with 4 healers, ejya, haruka, shining, and montr

lethal ferry
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No I’m not struggling with the bear

thick sphinx
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That much healing damn

floral wigeon
thick sphinx
floral wigeon
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planning to beat chapter 8 tonight

frail sage
lethal ferry
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I cleared H16-2 with mutsumi, uika, umiri, quercus and bison

thick sphinx
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I don't have better so yea

glass monolith
thick sphinx
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H4 bear is just environmental

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Pain in the ass

glass monolith
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Didn't overkill enough, do better

noble pewter
frail sage
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oh wait does silence alter s3 work for the break?

noble pewter
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But even if no one lane hold bot, u have lemuen nuke option

frail sage
floral wigeon
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can anyone help my strat?

glass monolith
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I'm playing game for 4 years and uh... LMD is not even issue for me anymore FrankaWheeze Might as well remove LMD from game at this point

daring escarp
noble pewter
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Use cat as often u like cause u have silverash faster redeploy n enemy all walk slow, ask miner stop advancing top after no more fog for them to clear n they can block blue box for u

frail sage
floral wigeon
daring escarp
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I dont see

floral wigeon
daring escarp
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Oh

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I don't see what's wrong

floral wigeon
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talulah oneshots my team most of the time

daring escarp
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Using frd to bait ignites

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Or borrow haruka

floral wigeon
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if not that its the lemuen (drone)

lethal ferry
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Or use my boy, mitim

floral wigeon
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not invested

lethal ferry
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Works at e0 lv1

daring escarp
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Borrow haruka then

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You have a lot of dps

frail sage
# floral wigeon

ngl looking at this stage now, i feel like this should be a breeze XD

lethal ferry
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This isn’t the hard one

floral wigeon
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if my logos s3 is sl7, when should i activate his skill for the fire rain for talusnake?

weak gazelle
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try activate it when the first fireball nearly reach your ops

south bone
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gah i hate h16-3 BlemiCry

weak gazelle
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tbh i forgot how logos handle fireballs again :icant:

floral wigeon
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regarding talusnake: do more enemies spawn after phase one or after phase 2?

thick sphinx
south bone
thick sphinx
craggy heron
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cus if you waited too long the fireball just hit logos and drag everyone else down with him

elder flume
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Pretty much the moment she dies

daring escarp
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H16-3 possible 5 ops

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Nice

elder flume
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Iana S1 doesnt proc Mantra but Morgan S2 procs hm

wintry hinge
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How can I defeat the angry bear wihout much dp?

river atlas
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use cheaper units

wintry hinge
glass monolith
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Use Ines to cause localized inflation spike SoraWow

wintry hinge
wintry hinge
river atlas
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Operator stats dont matter when waiting for it to stop being angry

glass monolith
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Well your query is awkward "without much DP". Either get more DP or find whatever cost less to stall HellaKek Are we talking 1v1 bear or H stages bear?

river atlas
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kroos works just as well as a random 6* when wasting the bear’s time walking to your op to murder them

glass monolith
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Orchid etc and damage bait bear from as far as possible to waste most of it time on taking corners and stuff

elder flume
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Iana S2 procs Mantra when hit

river atlas
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Phase 2 is a joke

glass monolith
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Defender check and lets be honest, if you hit phase 2 "without much DP" isn't suppose to be trouble

river atlas
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he walks even slower and the bar is half the duration

rustic eagle
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You can also cheese him with wis btw

river atlas
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like 2 decel binders forces the bar to empty by the time he reaches the blue box

wintry hinge
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or hes freeze inmune?

rustic eagle
glass monolith
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Well even if bear is immune Gnosis is cheap body to win time

wintry hinge
glass monolith
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Wait for reals? HellaKek Damn he is even more of punching bag than i expected

wintry hinge
river atlas
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You still need someone to block the boss at the end..

glass monolith
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You remember you need to phase 2, right? HellaKek

wintry hinge
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as bear wont move while being an big ice cube

glass monolith
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Well it is not IS, what you gonna do when freeze runs out

river atlas
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I dont remember gnosis being able to permanently freeze enemies

wintry hinge
glass monolith
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Well even after bar runs out bear still does damage and B-line box

river atlas
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Literally just orchid and podenco can do phase 2 bar

river atlas
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but that doesnt mean the boss just keels over and dies lol

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you still have to kill it after

wintry hinge
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how much atk does bear win in his anger phase?

wintry hinge
river atlas
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Wiki has the answer to that

wintry hinge
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kidding me that i hace to stall the bear to 2 minutes to run out the bar?

elder flume
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120+60

glass monolith
# wintry hinge that way?

If you hit Mission start and applied like 20% effort i bet you would already beat stage HellaKek
While i am somewhat pessimistic, 0 punishment on defeat and stuff

elder flume
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Adverse0 is 1.1k atk + 2x damage

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Modded Ines removes like 80-90% of both phase bars

river atlas
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I cannot stress how much of a joke phase 2 is

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The bar is 60s

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It has lost the +200 ms buff

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by the time it shambles to the blue box the bar has already lost over half if u sat there and did nothing

elder flume
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Think it was +66 aspd for permafreeze Gnosis ?

river atlas
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You put orchid in the path to slow it for a few tiles and waste its time hitting her and she has solo’d like a quarter of the bar on her own

wintry hinge
wintry hinge
lethal ferry
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If you just borrow a maxed Cuora you should be fine

wintry hinge
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bullsht
He makes physiscal and with as how game calculates phsical dmg high def mean the bear will do nothing

river atlas
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…?

lethal ferry
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And?

wintry hinge
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coura or hoshiguma1 should work to stall the bear

river atlas
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Isnt that what pileofjunk said

lethal ferry
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Your issue?

elder flume
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No mod Ines is roughly 50% bar gone

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Just need subs to compensate third deploy

elder flume
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Kina out of guaranteed aspd buffers not named Aak RedOmegaLul

river atlas
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Oh

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I should try this

elder flume
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Thats
+12 Ange
+10 Saileach
+13 Alanna
+56 Mon3tr
+12 Shu
Failed +4 / 8 Ayer

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Theres nothing saying Alanna cant double stack

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+5 Podenco

glass monolith
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Looks even funnier than my attempt to 100% uptime Erato S1 forever ago which failed to god damn SP LOCK

river atlas
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I dont have alanna oops

elder flume
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Uhh thats gona be annoying to add Sakiko

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Since Gnosis has to be next to red box for phase 2

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Wanqing doesnt last long

daring escarp
river atlas
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Read her talent?

elder flume
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+12 aspd

glass monolith
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Stop bear from throwing peddle

daring escarp
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It gives to herself isnt it

glass monolith
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Stainless S3 time SoraWow

elder flume
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Mod is for self

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Talent is for others

glass monolith
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Oh her talent is just operators in range

river atlas
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I said read her talent not trait

buoyant imp
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can e1 lv80 mountain solo the left lane in frozen abandoned city if i stick him in the blind spot between the two ice crystals?

astral cosmos
elder flume
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In another 3 years he will be

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Was contemplating if i should use my 2 years of 5star select for P5 Ayer

elder flume
astral cosmos
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well i have p5 mod3 ayers but you're already borrowing shu

elder flume
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Ye
Also Ayer has no place if Alanna double stack works

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Having quite a bit of dp problem setting up

river atlas
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Stall it with a hoshi + medic

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How much aspd do i need exactly zzz

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Apparently 60 isnt enough, maybe due to animation time..?

elder flume
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Shame cant do it without Mon3tr skill

astral cosmos
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gnosis is a giga fraud through and through wcyd

elder flume
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Guess 120 it is to go for

river atlas
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Bringing suzu makes it extremely close

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I wonder if i can fit in shu squad talent

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Probably not?

elder flume
river atlas
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Need angie module + raise ayerscale

elder flume
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Sp angle seems easier huh

river atlas
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I am sinking a lot of resources into this nonsense SkadiDaijoubu

elder flume
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Aspd seems to not worth it

river atlas
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No aspd still helps

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There’s a small gap due to sp lockout

elder flume
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My aspd run vs your sp run is way different lol

river atlas
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I should show off my krooster one day

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The number of randomass ops i leveled to e2 + moduled for random highly specific buffs is very high

elder flume
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I ran my bear with atk buff

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Can prob change the vg into Stainless Suzu if i went without

river atlas
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I need more deploy slots

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Does shu need to be deployed for her talent

elder flume
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No

river atlas
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All the parts?

elder flume
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You deploy only for sow

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Anything else doesnt matter

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I only used mine to blockshift bear up so it wont hit Saileach RedOmegaLul

river atlas
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she gives aspd

elder flume
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Yea that whole talent disregards

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3 same class = 3 supporters without Shu works

river atlas
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My nian cant survive bear 😭

elder flume
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If phase 1 just run Ines Nian and the rest is for phase2 setup ig

river atlas
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I am going to need to give nian her module for the 41% def but im out of lmd now

astral cosmos
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do you need a bison

river atlas
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I cant fit bison into the squad

astral cosmos
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sigh, fine

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😔

river atlas
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Extremely questionable setup

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and expensive

astral cosmos
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isnt nian s2 better to tank bear

river atlas
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Skill doesnt matter, she needs to survive long enough first

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By the time either skill charges i can just put shu down for heals + sanctuary

elder flume
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Is this phase 2 tanking Bnuuy

river atlas
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I just remembered her module gives sp, i guess s2 it is then

green helm
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bear is easy

river atlas
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ok

river atlas
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I only have 1 slot available for a vg

elder flume
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This is 1 vg and you reach 99 dp before phase 2 no

void terrace
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Even in h16-4

river atlas
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I dont have a medic available

void terrace
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Wait wat

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Soz no context here

river atlas
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Mon3tr is for buffing gnosis aspd

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we’re trying to gnosis permafreeze the bear for fun

void terrace
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Oohhh

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Hmmm I mean there saileach and angela

river atlas
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my squad is 80% sp batteries and aspd buffers

void terrace
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Passively

river atlas
elder flume
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Leme check if my Nian can run medicless

void terrace
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My nian probs can

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With the right risks

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As long as her s2 is up

river atlas
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Someone loan me a stronger nian? SpecterPray

void terrace
river atlas
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Im out of lmd for mine

void terrace
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Strong enough?

river atlas
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Probably

void terrace
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Pinged you

elder flume
void terrace
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Could also loan pot 6 monster if you need the last bit of aspd

river atlas
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wdym by pinged me

elder flume
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E2 60 S2L7 survives adverse0

kindred bolt
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Uhm, do... Ppl here accept stage challenges?

river atlas
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?

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maybe elaborate

kindred bolt
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Okay, give me sec

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Adverse Stage 10-17,
...
Basically I just completed it with a weird combination of operators, but when I use the autodeploy feature, it fails in one of the artillery canon timings, I was wondering if someone here could complete using a similar composition?
Myrtle S1
Saga S3
Silverash S2
Surtr S3 M2
Mon3ter S3
Pitilopsis S2
Gravel
Saria S1
Goldenglow S3 M1
Amiya S3
Curora S2
Horn S2

I really wonder if someone else would be able to complete the stage with these operators, do you take niche challenges like this? Ngl, I used each one of those operates at least one... And the real challenge would be, how I completed the stage with mon3ter pitilopsis and goldenglow not dying the whole stage...
I am new player, 2 months in... And I just wanted to share this, lol even if no one tries this or not

void terrace
river atlas
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discord didnt notify me of a dm, typical discord BreezeHappy

kindred bolt
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sorry to ping but...
@river atlas you'v e been a member since 2016, by any chance would you know if someone here would take this on?

river atlas
glass monolith
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Game wasn't even released in 2016 HellaKek

river atlas
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I could probably do it but i own all of those ops at max lvl and skills so it doesnt interest me

kindred bolt
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Hmm... I guess so am new to discord even

kindred bolt
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Humor me, how much time did you roughly spend on it?
Oh I am F2P btw

fringe solstice
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is using nearl alter and gnosis for 10-17 considered niche? HellaKek

daring escarp
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You have pretty good ops to stall the boss

kindred bolt
daring escarp
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And left side enemies on phase 2 you can abuse 3k+ hp defender + healer

kindred bolt
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Oh wait, maybe near the end

daring escarp
daring escarp
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They have damage reduction

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So its useless to outdps them

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And boss is stallable

kindred bolt
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No no I let the artillary fire on him, that breaks it's shield and I have amiya and monster for true dmg

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Wait let me record till the point the auto deploy fails

daring escarp
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I'll be back soon

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In 5-10 minutes so

hidden axle
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Why do you want a stable auto tho, this isnt a farming stage

kindred bolt
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i upgraded a few ops

daring escarp
kindred bolt
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No worries I almost got it anyway,

daring escarp
kindred bolt
daring escarp
kindred bolt
daring escarp
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And s2 is better to fulfill that threshold

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I used gavial as extra since she can heal frequently

kindred bolt
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I really am not using her modx so Regen that much since I have no other protector defender strong enough, even coura on e1 lvl 60 and defense chip stage locked

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I meant chip not mod

rustic eagle
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anybody has ideas who i could use to beat r8-8

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im kiiinda stuck, i would try stuff but the game has stopped giving me leveled up agents in the "recommended" support ones

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so if yall have a specific agent in mind so i can look for it

astral cosmos
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what was r8-8 again

rustic eagle
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you have to walk talullah through the drones that drop nukes

astral cosmos
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oh that one

rustic eagle
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and kill the guys dropping with the jetpacks

astral cosmos
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just borrow a lappalter or a goldenglow

rustic eagle
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lappalter doesnt cut it

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maybe i can try gg youre right

astral cosmos
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she doesn't?

rustic eagle
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the wolves get stuck on boxes

astral cosmos
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oh wait right

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shitty ass targeting

rustic eagle
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it wouldnt be a problem if i had anything else to helpAkaneEhhhhh

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@astral cosmos can i beg for a ggSkadiDaijoubu

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also the drones are pretty chonky u sure she can take em down

hazy sinew
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you can have mine

astral cosmos
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erm mine is lv40 modless sl7

hazy sinew
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yeah take mine

lofty stag
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Not even s1m3 🥀 🥀 🥀

hazy sinew
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techuu

astral cosmos
hidden axle
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Latest msg in friend jd smh

hazy sinew
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@rustic eagle

rustic eagle
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sentSkadiDaijoubu 👍

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sending both ig

hazy sinew
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level 20 chud

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accepted

rustic eagle
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would radian work btw

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do her planes target air

kindred bolt
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Oh r8-8

astral cosmos
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on s3 yes

rustic eagle
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maybe radian would work

hazy sinew
astral cosmos
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my raidian is s3sl7

hidden axle
kindred bolt
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R8-8 didn't needed much i just used most random units I guess,

astral cosmos
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basically what bro did is pick goldenglow and shove his krooster into a shuffler

lapis hornet
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too good at video games

hazy sinew
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surely this was for a module mission

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I cleared this first when ch8 launched with a silverash core iirc

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racist stage

rustic eagle
hazy sinew
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I saw

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freaking ass level 20 account in ch8

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wisadel Carey diffential

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based tho

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keep it up

rustic eagle
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i kinda miss not having all the 6 stars i wanted the game decided i didnt deserve that past lvl 20SkadiDaijoubu

kindred bolt
hidden axle
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-# trag borrow better

astral cosmos
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I wonder if 3op 5* only did r8-8

astral cosmos
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yes

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on s3

kindred bolt
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Wow, I didn't knew, cause tequila doesn't

astral cosmos
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liberators don't hit air

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unless specified

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mlynar and leizi just do...cuz

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just cuz

hidden axle
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Leizi does too?

astral cosmos
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on s2

hidden axle
astral cosmos
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I mean, more particularly

hidden axle
void terrace
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Think I found my new favorite general squad

rustic eagle
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hmmm i cant deal with the drone spawning in goldenglow's face

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maybe i need to delay her skill for it

void terrace
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Tested it against h10-4 all the way to h16-4

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No substitutions made other than mulesys for vulpis on h16-4

kindred bolt
void terrace
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Honestly covers so many scenarios it's crazy. Only issue is there's not really much one on one duelling power

astral cosmos
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oh yeah leizi s3 also hits air

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lol lmao

kindred bolt
astral cosmos
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-# ascalon s2 slows air

kindred bolt
rustic eagle
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ill try delaying her skill for it tho maybe

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issue is he has to get on top of blue box for her to target him aaaa

kindred bolt
rustic eagle
#

i wish i had gravelSkadiDaijoubu lemme send rq

#

humiliation ritual pt2

#

Perhaps I’ll level up some stuff AkaneBlob

astral cosmos
#

I don't even have an auto for that stage

kindred bolt
rustic eagle
#

its when the drone spawns from the box right in front of her

#

if i manage to sync my skill right i should be able to tho

kindred bolt
rustic eagle
#

yea but shes much worse, her wolves get stuck on the boxes

kindred bolt
#

oh...

#

okay give me a sec

rustic eagle
#

okay wait maybe i have an idea

#

cuz rn i couldnt stall the drone cuz theres ONE tile that i can use that for and he instantly changes target

#

but if im fast enough at deploying mayb

#

for some god forsaken reason the shot lands even after you retreat an op hm

#

wait no i had made it shit i just didnt pop skill im dumb asf

kindred bolt
#

Oh no gtg

#

I will be back soon

astral cosmos
#

experimentally throwing in random 5* works

#

(half of them did nothing)

#

wouldn't be surprised if there was something like a 3op 5* clear

#

...wtf how broken is mayer

#

wait does mayer s2 explosion hit air

#

LOL it does

#

:icant:

hazy sinew
#

bomba clat

rustic eagle
#

does the drone not lock on 0 block units

#

bro i was going insane

#

but it must be the case

astral cosmos
#

what unit are you using

rustic eagle
#

wait no its ambusher traaaaait

astral cosmos
#

called it

rustic eagle
#

i forgot it was a thing

astral cosmos
#

ascalon gets +2 taunt on s3

#

giga schizo behaviour

kindred bolt
#

doyou have mayer?

#

or scene or deepcolor

rustic eagle
#

nah but i finally did it😭

kindred bolt
#

Oh wiw

rustic eagle
#

a bunch of failed attempts because i was tryna aggro the drone with ethan

#

and it kept locking on sash killing gg

#

@hazy sinew tysm for the borrow 🙏🙏🙏

#

im a goldenglow stan now

#

wait did u just change skin lol

kindred bolt
#

lol

#

i was practicing it, forgot to record

#

I even used lower level goldenglow

#

silverash and lappland levels dont matter

rustic eagle
#

i mean the e ones i feel like would but fair enough lol ty

kindred bolt
#

I want to try somthn else

#

today's my last day, I may or may not be able to play for 2 months

#

sadly

rustic eagle
#

awww rip

kindred bolt
hazy sinew
plucky flint
glass monolith
#

So... I decided to give quick try to H stages... WHAT THE F

rustic eagle
#

😭 gotta have gratitude what can i say

plucky flint
glass monolith
#

I have trouble taking shield guards fairly on normal maps when facing 4, now I face fucking 10, with 3 invisible F you bots. Who kill my range tiles by attacking civilians because order 66 making enemies prioritize civilians even over taunts

exotic grove
#

just don't put them in your ranged ops' range DocSmile

fringe solstice
exotic grove
#

h16-1 is just a shieldguard meat grinder tho

glass monolith
#

Absolute dogshit cinema, last time I was violated so hard by h-1 was chapter 10

exotic grove
#

the hard part was just keeping ops alive after getting harassed by the crossbow ppl

glass monolith
#

(chapter 12 don't count, it was violation from start to finish)

void terrace
#

Does shus passive atk buff no longer apply to u deployed units?

kindred bolt
void terrace
#

Always thought it was like eyjas team buff

#

For things like mumu clones

fringe solstice
#

h16-1 forced me to read enemy description HellaKek

glass monolith
fringe solstice
#

tldr the commander buffs enemies like reduced damage to shield and more missiles to bots

glass monolith
#

Well more or less don't so shit for me with there being 4 at once on top of each other

plucky flint
#

I thought I can brute force the H stages but nah

glass monolith
plucky flint
#

but if it counts, I didn't know there's a roadblock at H16-3 when I finished it RedOmegaLul

fringe solstice
#

the commander in h16-1 is top left so you can just kill him but the 2nd one hides in the invis so you need the miners to go to the center to destroy the shadow machines

plucky flint
#

not gonna spoil you further tho SkadiDaijoubu

exotic grove
#

meat grinder

glass monolith
exotic grove
#

woe death be upon ye

fringe solstice
exotic grove
#

my first couple tries I kept letting commander leak

#

because bagpipe couldn't 1v1 it

#

my girl so washed

glass monolith
#

Well I will continue this shitshow tomorrow LappDumb

exotic grove
#

myrtle tile is universal

rustic eagle
#

and now im stuck on r8-9

#

the shit im trying

#

here lapp prob would do good

#

i have to redeploy wisadel like 3 times for it

daring escarp
#

The only thing i read is bear description

#

And yurodstvo hits until force retreat

plucky flint
#

I didn't know the existence of the commander until H stages where he's a fucking menace

daring escarp
#

Pretty funny tho

rustic eagle
#

if only the game still let me have good "recommended" operators

daring escarp
#

Raidian is kinda free i mean

#

You can borrow one

#

Bottom side would be only problem you would worry about

rustic eagle
#

i didnt do IS yetsquard

rustic eagle
#

ling would work too right?

daring escarp
#

Lemme check their stats

#

12k hp 800 def

#

50 res

left night
#

Does the enemy car atk/necrosis buff in chapter 10 stack?

fringe solstice
left night
#

Oh
Maybe I can let the cars live for a while then

#

Also, what is the range of the chain effect from the enemy caster?

#

(And what is the logic for choosing target to bounce to?)

left night
#

Why is the final boss of chapter 10 actually less threatening than the chain caster enemy lol

weak gazelle
#

MANfred?
yeah he is nothing

left night
#

Yeah him

weak gazelle
#

funny thing about him is canon nerf him greatlyRedOmegaLul

left night
#

Friendly fire lol

scarlet fulcrum
#

Cannon ur ally all along

weak gazelle
#

the good part is MAN show us how mech caster should be
well hg did that anyway

rigid otter
#

For Saria afknights, which is better, Mod X or Mod Y?

weak gazelle
#

dmg reduction one regardless of how you play saria

#

that one is far superior

rigid otter
#

thanks

nova wing
left night
#

I don't have these option

#

(Wait there's op for freeze as well?)

vocal leaf
plucky flint
rustic eagle
#

Current mech casters 6 stars are just gg and lappland right?

plucky flint
#

ye

vocal leaf
#

flopland is a fraud, i only count gg

fringe solstice
#

you can lemuen s2 which is a funny way to beat him

left night
#

I already did 10-17

#

I baited the cannon on him

vocal leaf
#

blacknight sleep SoraWow

round lake
#

16-15 is giving me grief. I can't handle the shield guards on the left with the artillery constantly bombarding me

#

How do I handle them when the whole map is invisible?

fringe solstice
left night
#

Stun can interrupt pretty much all attack right?

remote perch
nova wing
#

Detect invis like Silverash and Ines are useful here. Just made sure they aren't targeted by the artillery

smoky halo
steel prairie
#

how the hell you even clear this stage ???

hazy sinew
smoky halo
#

some skills still continue to be casted even while stunned

#

eg: ch11 artilery

hazy sinew
signal vector
#

When the commander guy is present the canons will target the miners, canons target those with the highest taunt by default, so mylnar + medic should solve it

scarlet fulcrum
#

That guy have stacked roster actually

signal vector
#

Or penance as the last deployed unit
The DOT from thr canons are pretty weak, and they charge penance's skill

#

So she'll have more shield, more reflect dmg and those things will just die over time

hidden axle
#

Also bait before they get into firing posture

#

I was in confusion in h16-3 until I observed and realised what's happening FrankaWheeze

signal vector
#

H16-3 is just 16-15 juiced up :ya:

#

Like the H stages this time is just previous stages but beefed up a bit, except H16-1 I guess

#

H16-2 is just 16-12 and H16-3 is just 16-15

hidden axle
#

H16-2 is a joke

#

Smh H16-1 was harder

#

Bear does the killing for you

#

Tho I should stop bruteforcing and keep my miners alive asw LappDumb

signal vector
#

H16-2 is a joke if you have hoshi e2lv90 200% trust s2m3 modX lv3 ye
She needs all of it to get 1500 DEF, which is just enough to make the bear hit like a wet noodle

hidden axle
#

Shrimply bait the bear into killing enemies

signal vector
#

Too tire some, would rather tank it with hoshi1 DocSmile

hidden axle
signal vector
#

H16-3 and H16-4 was a nightmare though

#

Like H16-3 has a bunch of dmg reflecting snails and you have to deal with 2 parts on the map, so already you're forced to bring 2 medics or more

hidden axle
#

Yeah H16-3 do be tough, apart from me misbaiting, unblockable mobs wete a menace there since very limited deployment slots
I was wondering if I had to start/end the miner factory to cycle miners better so I looked up first few mins of a vid
And I realised keeping them alive was an option I forgot LappDumb

signal vector
#

Then H16-4 forced you to defend 3 different paths, with the bottom one being the most deadly with those formaker that'll 1 shot any ranged units you have

hidden axle
#

I saw beqr for map 2 in H16-4

#

Map 1 is the real deal

signal vector
#

Ye map2 is piss easy, and if u manage to get the timing right to make the bear kill yurodostov then it's GG
Map 1 is where things are rough

#

Bottom lane fortmakers, unblockable fodders + commander in the middle lane, fodders and air bombers top lane

hidden axle
#

Most mechanics heavy story chapter thus far ngl

signal vector
#

Riel, even PRTS wasnt this bad DocSmile

hidden axle
#

Yeah

#

Ig acter ch 16 it would be ch 12

#

In terms of needing you to interact with mechanics

#

Oh yeah ch 14 too

signal vector
#

Ch12 is a bitch

hidden axle
#

16>14>12
Then there's 10>8

#

I see a pattern

hidden axle
signal vector
#

So 17 is gonna be piss easy or so so, and then 18 is gonna be rough 🥀

hidden axle
#

Yeah

signal vector
#

Ch12 is a bitch
I did NOT have a lot of cheap 3 blocks 🥀

hidden axle
#

Dorothy usecase trust DocSmile

#

And all mountain fans can be happy

#

Tho ig mountain was viable in general back then

signal vector
#

And then there's that guy

signal vector
#

The dude that requires you to kill him immediately before he leaks every spy

hidden axle
#

Real

#

I had texalter so it was fine but others Originium

#

Wait

signal vector
#

And ye he has D def but A res so I gotta use exu1 or exu2 instead of logos for afk 🥀

hidden axle
#

I confused him for ch15 guy mb

#

Shrimoly check civs with ranged units DocSmile

#

Actually

#

Mostima mody usecase

vocal leaf
hidden axle
#

I think ppl tp-ed bear indeed

signal vector
elder flume
#

slow boss down

signal vector
steel prairie
vocal leaf
signal vector
#

I'd like to see a H16-4 low end guide ngl

vocal leaf
#

i did tp to top instead to the bottom, then i watched a couple of clears i saw they did bottom, but it doesn’t work for me HellaKek

signal vector
#

Like how tf are u suppose to stall the bear when the entire map is just poison mists and the bear gives you no time to prep?

elder flume
#

ye you either bait bear left to follow Yuro or slow both down

signal vector
hidden axle
steel prairie
#

oh wait its the H stages

#

I thought that was 16-16

signal vector
#

Now that we have the ursus october revolution, we should witness an economic downturn in ch17 and then a world war on terra in ch18 DocSmile

hidden axle
hidden axle
pearl compass
#

Either slow him down with some Yurostvo stalling or make defenses in the bottom of Yu.

wheat python
#

how much % dmg increase does matra do with trag ? 5-10% or 30-40%

sterile delta
#

something like 65%+

#

more if you're able to get more bounces off

#

er rather, she loses like 60-70% of her damage without trag

wheat python
sterile delta
#

so do the percentages the other way around if you're calculating damage with him

sterile delta
#

if you go by sheer burst damage sure

wheat python
#

who can kill wave of elite faster ?

sterile delta
#

but then you need three units with misaligned cycling versus one unit

#

what elites are we talking about

wheat python
#

with shield

elder flume
#

theres a lot

wheat python
#

black

sterile delta
#

what stage is this

elder flume
#

and thats still like 70% of elites

sterile delta
#

mantra + trag bursting is fine for dealing with a group of elites ChenShrug

wheat python
sterile delta
#

bruh those things explode to like any modern dps

#

logos

#

trag by himself can kill them

#

mantra probably can too with s2 or using s3 without trag

wheat python
#

im New so my damage is low rn

#

for early game

sterile delta
#

trag s2 should take care of them pretty easily

wheat python
#

I'm stuck at stage 4-1 even using exus alt support, i was hoping to farm org before the limited banner

#

like giving 3-4th time i would clear it

#

but the ease of clearing gets harder

sterile delta
#

well

#

thats cuz the game is getting harder

#

but 4-1 should fold over to trag s2

wheat python
#

so i was looking to know who I should spend my resources

#

can i share my squad photo here ?

sterile delta
#

who do you have

#

yep

wheat python
#

who should i e2 next ?

sterile delta
#

id do mantra tragodia blaze

wheat python
#

who first ?

#

for upgrade

sterile delta
#

hm

remote perch
#

Mantra
Trag doesn't really badly needs E2

sterile delta
#

i was debating between mantra and tragodia

#

probably e2 mantra ya

#

then keep using s2 mostly

#

s3 is fine if you desperately need burst damage but its kinda bricked without tragodia s3

#

mantra -> tragodia -> blaze

wheat python
#

so to use mantra s3 i need trag s3 ?

remote perch
#

I'd rather fix his base slaves before e2ing Trag

wheat python
#

new mechanic?

sterile delta
#

well i was hoping they're already raised the basic base slaves ReedBean

remote perch
sterile delta
#

/base and /baseskills in #bot-spam , #r-i-i-c pins

wheat python
sterile delta
#

its technically usable with trag s2 but it loses a lot of damage

remote perch
wheat python
sterile delta
#

aw hell nah

#

you got a ton of work to do on your base

wheat python
#

well lmd is only important right?

remote perch
sterile delta
#

lmd and exp are both important

remote perch
#

Oh, i just noticed this isn't #help lol

wicked minnow
#

bro who designed h16-1

#

how much fucking arts damage do i need

daring escarp
river atlas
wicked minnow
#

i sentence you to 16 billion shielders

daring escarp
wicked minnow
#

i figured out a setup for the top part of the stage

river atlas
#

oh i confused h12-1 and h12-2 oops

wicked minnow
#

but why soo many shielders

daring escarp
river atlas
#

err 16 yea

wicked minnow
#

anyway im trying to see if i can get a 6 op record for h16-1

#

top part of the stag is easy

#

i dont have enough arts damage for bottom

#

umiri + tin man isnt enough 🥹

daring escarp
#

Do raidian /jk

exotic grove
#

I just used sakichan and lemon DocSmile

plucky flint
wicked minnow
#

raidian s2

#

raidian s2 can deal with the commander top left and with all of the black mist emitting things

#

also she can deal quite decently with the sniper guys

#

she just cant deal well enough with the shielders

#

and there's billions of them

plucky flint
#

damn, checked welfare ops, really lacks arts Bnuuy

wicked minnow
#

there's some arts damage but it isnt that good

exotic grove
#

will astgenne alt fix this

wicked minnow
#

raidian s3 umiri tinman astgenne and astgenne2

azure roost
#

ngl

wicked minnow
#

uhhhh

azure roost
#

how astegenne 2

#

i havent use her on cn

wicked minnow
#

astgenne2 will help quite a bit

azure roost
#

she interesting cause of that skill

wicked minnow
#

but doesnt fix the lack of arts damage problem

azure roost
#

hello fyrilballs

plucky flint
wicked minnow
#

she's awful yeah

plucky flint
#

holy

azure roost
#

oh ye i done m6 vetobear

plucky flint
#

how many times will you change name Bnuuy

wicked minnow
#

yeee i saw

azure roost
#

i need to wait for another bear

plucky flint
#

heya leite SkadiDaijoubu

wicked minnow
#

me like bear very cute bear

azure roost
#

well she is next on banner event wotn took a while

wicked minnow
plucky flint
azure roost
azure roost
#

only getting one

#

5 star dupe is pain

wicked minnow
#

😭

plucky flint
#

that's what 50% rate up is for you FiaDed

azure roost
#

she gonna take a while to p6

#

same for other 5★bear

maiden hound
azure roost
#

lol

glass monolith
#

Pandas detected fake bear only team BlazeSmug

plucky flint
#

good thing there really isn't much that catches my attention in the cn banners currently, can save for a spark if needed SkadiDaijoubu

azure roost
#

fyril

plucky flint
#

I just want pram2 for unga bunga afk DocSmile

azure roost
#

imma jump for p6

#

when next alt is zima

#

lmfao

#

my pulls is dead on global

plucky flint
#

it's next

wicked minnow
weak gazelle
#

ohh right next event on cn is ursus (if i am not wrong)
its bear timeArt

azure roost
#

ye

#

arkhy

daring escarp
azure roost
#

if new operator have two bears

#

balls

daring escarp
plucky flint
weak gazelle
azure roost
#

ep 17

#

ursus shenanigans

wicked minnow
plucky flint
#

sadge

wicked minnow
#

CE also isnt a welfare

#

savage isnt either

plucky flint
wicked minnow
#

but conviction and u-offical are

#

red cert isnt welfare as well

azure roost
#

story unit aint welfare not counted in arkrec

weak gazelle
#

hope they improve bear faction
relying on current kinda make me bald real fast😅

azure roost
#

arkhy

#

i want more arts

#

i have two arts option

weak gazelle
azure roost
#

90% of gameplay os just bruteforcing damage using rosa

weak gazelle
#

and both 5*
its doomed

wicked minnow
#

absinthe and istina

#

fucked up

azure roost
#

other is just supporting her

wicked minnow
#

i avoid using absinthe if i can

azure roost
#

on cc

wicked minnow
#

she's only good for bursting things down that are already close to death

daring escarp
#

Using beehunter is already doomed thing

azure roost
#

since some shit needs arts

wicked minnow
#

oh yee

azure roost
#

im kinda very washed on bear only

#

lmfao

weak gazelle
#

is leto underwhelmed? or just bland lord that not better than lappy?

azure roost
#

she is pog

weak gazelle
#

i forgot about her, really😅

plucky flint
azure roost
plucky flint
#

or maybe some interesting event like TfN again

azure roost
plucky flint
#

I skipped all cc that uses that kind of risk score FiaDed

weak gazelle
#

i see
good thing she good
sometime i want to play 5* only but my muscle memory led me to same ops over and over againHellaHands

azure roost
#

arkhy

#

worse event for bears only

weak gazelle
#

hmm?

azure roost
weak gazelle
#

hitcount huh

#

when abuse rosa s3 to the brink

azure roost
#

my strat turned to feater s2

#

real quick

azure roost
#

fuck that event honestly

#

especially that one need arts damage

#

when i have two fucking arts unit only

weak gazelle
#

maybe retire bear only niche and find something else😂

#

barefoot or somethingRedOmegaLul

azure roost
#

ngl im playing rn is higashi only

weak gazelle
#

tried siracusa but meh... too strong

azure roost
#

uahaha

weak gazelle
#

realize im just a fraud when sexas my trump card

azure roost
#

siracusa have too many dumb unit

glass monolith
#

Well Siracusa has entire 2 Lapps HellaKek

#

and ABC squad (their IS2 communication lmao)

azure roost
#

higashi is interesting if im not using the hoshi2 and haruka

weak gazelle
#

try caster only but.... its back to logos core again :icant:
and its pot gated when want to access extreme strat
ts so ass :icant:

weak gazelle
#

kiwawa, mizuki, matoi, musha one (forgot her name)

limpid ore
#

shirayuki

#

aka fuck you

#

midnight

azure roost
#

mizuki, akafuyu, kirara, saga, matoi, utage, kichi, shira, matsukiri, kazemaru, two hoshi

#

and op tsukinogi

weak gazelle
limpid ore
#

who have tri-section arm

weak gazelle
#

but that a solid line up

azure roost
#

ye it is

#

i forgot other too

weak gazelle
#

matsu hoshi and haruka already cover most of it

azure roost
#

like suzu, midnight, noir and yato

#

and their alt

weak gazelle
#

oh right suzu
too bad her dad still in npc jailRedOmegaLul

azure roost
#

god pls next higashi event have mio as operator