#strategy

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lusty elm
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Oh yeah, you're right

nocturne cove
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what is jaye hps against bear?

lusty elm
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I doubt Jaye would survive even one hit from the bear

nocturne cove
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im using him to heal

river atlas
nocturne cove
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ikik

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150%

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im just curious and lazy

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🏃‍♂️

hidden axle
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-# imagine mod3 jaye

river atlas
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assuming e2 no mod no mastery, he has 737 atk * 1.5 from talent * 1.4 from s2 and heals for 40% of the dmg dealt

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bear has 300 def

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stabs for 1247 and heals for 499 hp

elder flume
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Silvergun 2op runs Bubble for atk down

river atlas
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787 * 1.6 * 1.6 = 2014 - 300 = 1714 * 0.5 = 857 hp/stab w module and m3

nocturne cove
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cuora works!

elder flume
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damn math

nocturne cove
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btw rain can you make a video of ines stall

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is it s3m3?

elder flume
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mod1

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modless wants Mlynar Gravel to cover the last cycle

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or any other stall ig

lilac steppe
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Not this one tho. The IS6 "Beyond Mount and Sea"

river atlas
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i don't think mastery helps ines s3 for bear stall, does it?

elder flume
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just faster killing ig

river atlas
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if u bring jaye s1 u can go take a nap

nocturne cove
daring escarp
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Not really

daring escarp
scarlet fulcrum
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stab, thought Pokemon for a moment

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Same Type Atk Bonus lol

wicked minnow
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helll yeah. putting in the good word for bison. god's work

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bison takes minimum damage off-skill on adverse RedOmegaLul

glass monolith
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sarcastic inhale. "But defenders don't do DaMaGe"

wicked minnow
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maybe just your defenders dont deal damage BlitzSmile

glass monolith
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Ones which do - don't live to tell how they fistfight random RUSrsus bear HellaKek

errant herald
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This hard?

pearl compass
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Depends.

errant herald
sick knoll
river atlas
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Lot easier with a taunt unit

errant herald
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I'm scared

sick knoll
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and the main ones are 6 stars

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ow

river atlas
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There are 10 taunt operators, and one of them is a 4* and one is a welfare

sick knoll
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so the only one we should expect is bubble huh

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unless czerny

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cus no one is playing bison

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the rest is yu or mylnar or jessica alter

hidden axle
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If yoy have vendela she can give your units taunt

sick knoll
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setting vendela up on that stage gota be pretty rough

unkempt meteor
river atlas
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lee, penance, yu, mlynar, ascalon, bison, bubble, czerny, mutsumi

hidden axle
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Ascalon doesnt count since her archetype's negative taunt neutralises it

river atlas
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We got 1 welfare, 1 4*, an op from the collab 2 banners ago, an op on the last banner, and an extremely meta liberator u can easily borrow

river atlas
hidden axle
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Are you sure its +2, this was brought up earlier and back then ppl said its +1 IstinaThink

river atlas
hidden axle
odd forge
glass monolith
odd forge
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Me using ascalon S1

glass monolith
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Me using Vendela S2

odd forge
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I wish, I could build 5 stars below.

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6 stars always interesting (kinda)

glass monolith
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Well 6 stars are practical, but after you have practical team sometimes there is a crippling idea of "Why the F not"

odd forge
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Oh true

tribal dew
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I wonder if his "Spiritual Burden" Skill will be used every 4 hit or just on 4th hit on the same target

glass monolith
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Every 4th, there isn't even same target in description

tribal dew
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Well, just to make sure, trying to bait his 4th hit but didn't see any domain showed up

glass monolith
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It spawns black smoke with delay for me but it definitely spawns

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If you somehow baited it into maps red smoke it might overlap into being basically invisible but it is there

river atlas
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Generally its noticeable by the fact that it instantly kills whoever it hits

tribal dew
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Got it, thank you for clarification

glass monolith
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Well instakill inside fog activates on following activation because unit is not inside fog before first one

tribal dew
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Any tips for clearing those annoying Abnormal Slugs? Can't use most ranged unit on top lane since my healer just can't keep em healed

lethal ferry
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Spectre

odd forge
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Aoe damage!

broken idol
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M3 also works

odd forge
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Like child with eye patch, mommy blaze and spectre

tribal dew
odd forge
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Ohhh

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Okay good luck

lethal ferry
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Zuo le s2 / s3 should work

odd forge
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Using s3 for clearing lane!

odd forge
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S2 for goes brrrrr goes brrr

tribal dew
hidden axle
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Cuz I am pretty sure you can place a medic for the op dealing with slugs for every slug map

odd forge
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Btw zuo Lee Rock cannot be healing

odd forge
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Slow down enemies! Oh yeah

pearl compass
tribal dew
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I'mma do some edit since typing only slug cause confusion

daring escarp
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Having medic is also helping

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Better if 2

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But still miners clear half of their shields

hidden axle
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Mine them away DocSmile

signal vector
odd forge
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Perfurmer

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I love supah sooo much

tribal dew
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Zuo Le works

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How can i not thinking do aoe dmg, ty for suggestion, at least i'm done with phase 1, only need to deal with Phase 2 nowSkadiDaijoubu

odd forge
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What are you cooking up

fierce narwhal
odd forge
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67

strong lotus
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Anyway, how the f do you do 16-7?

tribal dew
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Well, all wiped up by those rockets guy

strong lotus
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Hardstuck there now 🙁

odd forge
pearl compass
glass monolith
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How the fuck i did 16-7 simulation+2 is pretty valid question HellaKek

odd forge
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Oh

odd forge
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I did put leizi alter on three checkpoint boxes and put caster and medic.

signal vector
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Put leizi in the middle ye

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Once her skill's up she'll start slaying 💅

glass monolith
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and ranged bow dudes on side might one tap most e1 ranged operators

strong lotus
odd forge
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Ohh

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Using turtle

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Cuora

strong lotus
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Will try using more ClassDefender then.

odd forge
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She can healing herself

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A bit.

tribal dew
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Finally passed this stage, Zuole surely helpRedOmegaLul

tribal dew
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I'm newbie, i do stage mostly with bruteforceLappDumb

lethal ferry
# fierce narwhal Anyone?

Bring a therapist, ideally lumen, the boss does so much nervous impairment that your better off removing the stun than trying to prevent nervous impairment

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Hoshi2 isn’t the best for this as she can’t be healed when her health is negative, bubble is good enough for tanking

fierce narwhal
lethal ferry
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You can remove all of the nethersea brand from the stage if you time the hand of the saint well enough, none of the spawners appear after the second phase, the brand on the left side can be ignored

fierce narwhal
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I can clear the brand mostly fine, but once I get to third phase, everyone just starts melting, that and the stupid ass top left

lethal ferry
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Hoshi2 might be able to kill everything in the top left, I used firewhistle so any tanky arts dealing unit should work

sweet path
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hm any tips from 16-7 is there any two easier lvls ?

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for simulation

fierce narwhal
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Cause I was putting Degen top Right, Hoshi to block just to Degens Bottom left

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Using Hoshi and Degen to nuke the boss as it spawns each phase

lethal ferry
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Tin man for the brandguider, kroos alter for everything else

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Wait sorry

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Wrong stage

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Was thinking for ex 8

river atlas
sweet path
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dunno how to share my pack, so this way usualy i take wis'del or sakiko and somehow i'am trying it

lethal ferry
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I honestly don’t remember what I did for sn 10 so I can’t help too much

river atlas
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Why are pramanix and whisperin e2 ExuHyperStare

lethal ferry
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I think I used tin man and tequila for the spewer wave and had Specter deal with the rest

sweet path
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well it happened

lethal ferry
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What wrong with an e2 whisperain?

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She’s great

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Especially in chapter 16

glass monolith
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Well if you play without sound during her S2 then i am fine HellaKek

river atlas
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They only has 4 e2 ops and theyre raidian, whisperain, pram, and jessica

glass monolith
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If you play Whsiperain with sound, bonus points if IS with attack speed relics. Then there is nothing in this world to annoy you by sound alone

lethal ferry
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What you don’t like your ears bleeding out during stages

sweet path
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today is a month as i am playing and well i dunno if i know what i am doing XD

river atlas
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Please go to #help and get basic gameplay help instead

lethal ferry
river atlas
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especially in regard to your RIIC base setup

sweet path
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RIIC ?

glass monolith
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I honestly don't recall what it means, Rhodes Island Industrial Complex? HellaKek Basically base building min maxers live over there #r-i-i-c if you want to get all you can out of passive income

floral wigeon
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how do i do this?
status before i stop

glass monolith
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Ah yes funny mortal guys map. Mind deploy order and remember to provide medics to whatever is deployed last to be victim of constant bombardment

odd forge
wanton rover
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Out of sheer curiosity do we have any story maps that can be beaten only by using its mechanics? As in zero ops whatsoever
I was thinking about the ones where enemies naturally take dot but I can't find them again

glass monolith
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Well techically we had 2 roadblock stages with bleed tiles where almost everything bleed out half way to box

exotic grove
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4-4? the one with the blocks?

glass monolith
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There is also one in chapter 7 i think but i dont recall number

exotic grove
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7-12?

glass monolith
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probably

lethal ferry
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specifically main story?

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because if not then definitely some of the IC stages

wanton rover
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Trying 7-12 but it's kinda weird to make the Merc walk back and fourth enough while not messing up for the others

daring escarp
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Durin solo

wanton rover
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They die but damn...it's so close sometimes

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I don't think we have enough boxes to make the mercs stroll enough to die. 13 looks like a lot at first but when you need to delete and reapply a couple of times it becomes a problem for me

exotic grove
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I'm sure some bilibili maniac genius has figured this out

wanton rover
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I mean, it looks possible, it feeeeeels possible

wanton rover
odd forge
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Ganbare

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Even your kitchen is burning, keep cooking

fierce narwhal
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The seaborn suffering has not ended, Pain.(SN-10)

odd forge
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They build the rocket

fierce narwhal
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?

wanton rover
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Ok ok, progress! Got to ~50% but the second merc wave messed me up. This can be done, this will be done SoraWow

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Also, the dogs running diagonally and avoiding the dot took me by surprise, I need to account for this next time

wanton rover
elder flume
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and this is only enemy 7

wanton rover
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Oh ye, but they always die the same, could be the first or the last dog

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Did it!!! Hell yeah!! ☀️

exotic grove
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does the exialt mr nothing 2op 16-12 ss2 require you to gamble his s2 buff?

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or do u just not use s2 at all

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oh yeah no activation works
DocSmile

glass monolith
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Timely finished medal set BlitzSmile

exotic grove
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hm ok so you have to retreat exia as soon as bear enters phase 2

exotic grove
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I'm getting boned on phase2 😭

hasty minnow
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doing simu?

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Yeah you have to redeploy exu2 to get the barrier again to tank the rock throw if thats what you mean

exotic grove
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yeah I need like one extra second so I can get exia's skill online

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the rock hits her right before it ticks over to 30 sp

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I'm trying stalling bear in different spots during phase 1

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is it just a case of I need to retreat her on the frame the bear enters phase 2

hidden axle
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Damn not a challenge run

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Why da struggle you are dalao

exotic grove
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idk what that means but sure
wdym not a challenge run

hidden axle
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I assumed you were doing a 4 star-only or sth

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Oh wait

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You aren't zatpp

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Mb

exotic grove
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I'm doing 2op

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we already proved 4* below is pretty ez with jaye

hidden axle
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MudrockNaruhodo challenge run indeed

exotic grove
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I'm trying sand reckoner amiya strat that zatpp was doing after this beacuse he was having trouble with amiya dying and my amiya is masteried and modded and his isn't

river atlas
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What restrictions besides 2op

exotic grove
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the amiya strat isn't 2op
it's amiya sandreckoner podenco cuora jaye

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the exia nothing strat is 2op

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ughhh it's still not enough
I literally need like half a second more for her skill to charge faster
wait
maybe I could try putting her in a spot farther away so rock has more distance to travel giving me more time

cinder vector
exotic grove
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first off that makes it 3op and lame
second dp is the not the issue

daring escarp
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Since he gets it from talent

daring escarp
daring escarp
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Its impossible with e1 amiya

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I probably can swap jaye with red

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But idk if its enough to heal up during that time

exotic grove
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urgh still stuck
can't figure out how to position so that she charges in time
gonna try one last spot

daring escarp
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LOL THAT WAS TOO CLOSE

exotic grove
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WHERE DO I PUT HER
AAAAA

teal moon
exotic grove
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she doesn't reach 30sp before rock hits no matter what I do

daring escarp
# exotic grove WHERE DO I PUT HER AAAAA

I think you need to wait for both and then let nothing tank the rock so 10 seconds pass and during this time you can use exu s2 to stun the bear and nothing permastuns

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Easy right

exotic grove
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he can tank rock?

daring escarp
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If you can manage to

exotic grove
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so drop him far enough behind bear where it won't melee

daring escarp
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It shouldnt since my amiya is like some percentage away from death from a rock hit

daring escarp
exotic grove
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or wait no put him right above or below bear at the right time so it does a single rock throw then walks into his range

daring escarp
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Infront of the bear and when he releases from the stun and able to stun the bear

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And during this time you need extra time for exu s2 rdp time

daring escarp
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But ehh

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Doesn't change anything

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And putting upfront is further from the bear

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On his straight line

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He will prio nothing since he's first to deploy

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And you shall exu2

exotic grove
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oh I see what u mean

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nvm he instadies to rock

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I need to drop him right at the start so he can redeploy fast enough

daring escarp
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What are stats for the nothing

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Since my amiya 1850 106 def barely enough to tank it

exotic grove
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2782 HP 396 DEF
bear throws rock while in enraged state (orange bar)

daring escarp
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Oh shi

exotic grove
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the problem with my second strat that I'm trying now is that nothing rdp time is like 20s, which lines up with bear rock recharge time
hoping I can beat it somehow

daring escarp
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You can stun first rock throw fr

exotic grove
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surely

scarlet fulcrum
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can copy pasta just fine

exotic grove
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how are u getting him there
bear just melees him
and without aspd steal he can't permastun

scarlet fulcrum
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lemuen batter than undulation slop DrudgeThink

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He is permastun the bear

exotic grove
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he can't without exia

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aspd too fast

scarlet fulcrum
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Thats exialt there

exotic grove
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she's on cooldown

scarlet fulcrum
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On she is on skill

exotic grove
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she is on redeploy cooldown

scarlet fulcrum
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Oh yours?

exotic grove
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how do you get her there on phase 2 without nothing dying

scarlet fulcrum
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I just stun the bear with nothing once again on path changing

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Shrimple as that

exotic grove
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where are you stalling it on phase 1?

scarlet fulcrum
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On mid

exotic grove
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I don't have time to redeploy nothing when doing that

fringe solstice
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like 30 min+ ig

scarlet fulcrum
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Yea, wasting time

exotic grove
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do I need to send u a vid of the issue

scarlet fulcrum
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Sure

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I mean i just copy pasta spec clear, nothing impressive

exotic grove
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wdym spec clear

scarlet fulcrum
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Specialist record

exotic grove
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idk what that is

scarlet fulcrum
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Arkrec

exotic grove
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never used it

teal moon
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you can search stage and filter per category/niche

exotic grove
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so when you stun an extra time on phase 1 are you keeping exu deployed?

scarlet fulcrum
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No

exotic grove
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the issue I'm having is that when I retreat exia the bear just exits his range

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so I can't stun it again

teal moon
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I'm missing the issue, why are you retreating Exu2?

exotic grove
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for phase 2

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she will die to rock if I don';t

scarlet fulcrum
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After enraged done bear will walk ignoring ur ops and prio checkpoints, rdp nothing to delay him there

exotic grove
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can't, takes too long to recharge

teal moon
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how does it take too long?

scarlet fulcrum
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U can

exotic grove
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bear reaches exit right as nothing comes online

scarlet fulcrum
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Its his talent not skill

teal moon
exotic grove
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I know it's his talent

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I'm literally saying the bear exits the stage right as he is redeployable

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there's no fucking way he's gonna have time to stun it if he has less than 1 sec to hit bear

scarlet fulcrum
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No if u let enraged finish

exotic grove
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????

scarlet fulcrum
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Can leave the bar a bit low

exotic grove
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I'm talking about when the bear gets the golden aura and starts limping towards the exit
after u hit the HP threshold in phase 1

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even if I retreat him the instant the bear enters that wandering mode he will not be up and ready to stun again before it exits the stage

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and he can't even hit the bear when it's in that mode

scarlet fulcrum
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Ur nothing 20s right?

exotic grove
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you can see he doesn't even target it

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how is he gonna stun it phase 1 if he can't target it

scarlet fulcrum
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Do it in simulation

exotic grove
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this is in simulation

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ss2

teal moon
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I'm still missing the point behind redeploying Exu2 CeobeConfused

scarlet fulcrum
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Did u pick hp risk?

exotic grove
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yes

scarlet fulcrum
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Yea that one better to trigger it

exotic grove
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if I had enough dp at start to put her by entrance I'd leave her there between phase 1 and 2
but I don't have enough dp

teal moon
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use Texas to simulate dp pots

exotic grove
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is the record using pot6?

teal moon
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yeah, as most niche clears

scarlet fulcrum
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Dont let nothing trigger phase 2 btw

scarlet fulcrum
exotic grove
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the bear does self dmg?

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the enraged bar is always at 0 when it triggers the retreat into phase2
idk how you'd kill fast enough to still have it when triggering retreat into phase2

scarlet fulcrum
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Almost done

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Yea, let the enraged bar on low, so when enraged done bear will wandering without invincible phase

exotic grove
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what?

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how are you getting her down there on phase 1

scarlet fulcrum
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Just watch that yea, smh

exotic grove
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ok so I was doing it correctly
why was JJ saying I shouldn't be retreating her

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I absolutely need to be retreating her

scarlet fulcrum
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And bear ded, ez copy pasta

fringe solstice
exotic grove
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like what

fringe solstice
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like the vid jj sent, you can block the rocks with exu shield

scarlet fulcrum
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2 variants iirc

exotic grove
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I thought that was a meme video from the thumbnail not a guide facepalmcrying

fringe solstice
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to speed it up

stiff thistle
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is there a recommended module for mumu? or is it situational

exotic grove
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that's not what meme video means but ok

scarlet fulcrum
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Its obv meme

exotic grove
teal moon
exotic grove
scarlet fulcrum
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Knight tech like its should be

exotic grove
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I don't know what I'm supposed to get from that statement but sure ok thanks for helping

fringe solstice
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btw when you get it to work, tell me how long it takes

daring escarp
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E1 pot4 sl7 lvl60 quercus would've worked

hasty minnow
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somebody said wisadel coulds solo the bear is this true

scarlet fulcrum
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Bear funny targetting make it possible ye

exotic grove
fringe solstice
exotic grove
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thanks for helping all three of u
sry I got a bit heated just felt like ppl weren't understanding me

karmic glade
exotic grove
signal vector
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I hate dolly bro holy fck

rapid junco
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Just uxe him bro

lilac steppe
sly drift
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Let's see how many will jump me this time for this. Art Art

elder flume
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now add 5stars in

odd forge
fierce narwhal
hidden axle
sly drift
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Useful overall in game. Shit op could be higher here because their IS mod is decent

hidden axle
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Asking cuz hoe could go one tier higher

river atlas
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Pozy being higher than schwarz is kinda weird

sly drift
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Swarz is nowhere as good as Pozy

hasty minnow
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also how dare you not put lux higher up

hidden axle
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I think they mean viability ReedBean

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Regardless I think its fine

elder flume
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Schwarz sniper atk buff moment

hidden axle
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For a newbje account you could still recommend pozy to aj extent but not schwarz

sly drift
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Pozy ceiling damage is still around 120k-140k iirc. She suck hard on high def but With slight enemy def debuff she is still beast even today

river atlas
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maybe im bad at using pozy idk

hidden axle
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Most of her dmg is locked behind her typewriter

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Which needs to placed near poxy

river atlas
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I tried to use her for a bit and i found it excruciatingly painful to use

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I know u have to place the typewriter next to her, that’s the whole problem lol

hidden axle
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Yeah

hasty minnow
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thats your nuerons activating

hidden axle
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-# and thus I introduce nasti

hasty minnow
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its part of the process

river atlas
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I can just point schwarz down any lane and press button

hidden axle
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Uh

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Iirc

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Her typewriter outdamages schwarz

foggy grove
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lol?

nocturne cove
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poca alpha mod will save her

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trust

nocturne cove
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and its annoying most of the time

river atlas
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Does pozy’s module trait work on the typewriter

vital arrow
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no

nocturne cove
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ignore dodge?

river atlas
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Yeah

fringe solstice
vital arrow
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and no you dont have to place typewriter next to her

vital arrow
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yes it gives her better def shred but its just 5%

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I know, I have p5 pozy ReedBean

nocturne cove
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the damage increase is good

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iirc

vital arrow
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its good but if it shafts her placement

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I'd rather put it somewhere else

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like minmaxing when you cant even get the max benefit defeats the point of minmaxing

nocturne cove
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you dont have to but it is the best thing to do when you can

vital arrow
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it is, I'm saying you dont have to force it

nocturne cove
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it is important for hee to do more damage so i can keep using her!

vital arrow
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forcing typewriter adjacent when you have to mald splitboxing an enemy when I can just put it behind the same enemy and get the same uptime

nocturne cove
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oh we also have mod x now

pearl compass
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For Pozy? Yes.

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Worldwide it's better.

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I also love "Schwarz Line" SchwarzBlush

odd forge
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No wisdel better

nocturne cove
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pozy got a lot of conditions for max damage

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on s3 the enemy has to be in front 3 tiles

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then the typewriter

hidden axle
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Pozy alter with upcoming ursus event trust

nocturne cove
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it is zima

odd forge
hidden axle
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Modern typewrite that types with flash's speed SoraWow

sly drift
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Ranking five stars is significantly harder because like half of the ops are equally useless lol.

elder flume
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Nightmare in bottom tier is wild

sly drift
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100% bottom tier

river atlas
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Am i blind where is surfer

sly drift
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Surfer, grace etc after aren't there lol.
Ig no one update it

elder flume
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the healer that ignores damage dealt = heal 2 while having dodge and access to slow + true damage

river atlas
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Isnt 9 color deer extremely meta for workshop crafting

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Unless this is strictly combat ig

sly drift
#

While it actually just Reed archetype

river atlas
#

Both iris and heidi are used a lot in IS iirc?

elder flume
#

you do know she ignores Reed archetype right

#

and mod exists

sly drift
#

There are clever way to use Heidi. I have prove her very niche actually useful

sterile delta
#

iris isnt used in IS, indigo is

river atlas
#

Oh i confused the two oops

sterile delta
#

also why is ptilo in 6 star tier

elder flume
sly drift
#

She is Six stars DocSmile

plucky flint
#

tier list probably from year 2

sterile delta
#

if we're going by base usage as well whisperain/mulberry and ceylon shouldnt be on the bottom

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the first 4 in useful being on the same level as april is also wild

fierce narwhal
sterile delta
#

mulberry/whisperain are used in exodia so ChenShrug

river atlas
#

Deer

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ms “i can convert carbon into mats”

sly drift
sterile delta
#

swire and czerny are also usable in base

plucky flint
#

wait tf is platinum doing there RedOmegaLul

sterile delta
vital arrow
#

pretty sure platinum isnt actually used

river atlas
#

id consider putting deer into six star if we’re including base skills

vital arrow
#

long warmup, low dph even with talent

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krooster exists

sterile delta
#

also wtf is franka doing up there

sly drift
sterile delta
#

LOL

sly drift
#

That's exactly why I also put Franka on second highest tier

sterile delta
#

aint no fucking way they're as useful as an operator who is mid prio to rosmontis advanced gameplay in is3/5

elder flume
#

oh so the metric is 5stars are only used on 5star only and not as a whole squad

foggy grove
#

what is piss flat dph

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lol

vital arrow
#

also the concept of kazemaru being that low

sly drift
#

Literally no one else works when enemy has abnormal def (About Franka)

sterile delta
#

i think id rather go back in time to the gamepress tierlist ngl

vital arrow
#

when the enemy has abnormal def

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use rockrock

sterile delta
#

when the enemy has abnormal def you switch classes

odd forge
#

I like flat women

sterile delta
#

instead of trying to bang your head against a wall

sly drift
vital arrow
#

how many enemies is that

plucky flint
#

who has that

sterile delta
#

then you pull out stallers

odd forge
#

Caster amiya is useful eh

vital arrow
#

I dont think people use franka for patriot

sly drift
vital arrow
#

they use amiya

odd forge
#

I see I see

plucky flint
#

and if you put franka besides that enemy she probably would have 1 tapped SkadiDaijoubu

sterile delta
#

if we're not factoring investment cost amiya should be higher

sly drift
vital arrow
#

having 'potential usage'

sterile delta
#

amiya is the default true damage dealer of choice for 5 stars

vital arrow
#

is different than 'practical usage'

sly drift
vital arrow
#

50% chance to ignore def btw

sterile delta
#

also can we talk about the windchimes inclusion

sly drift
#

You can see I always do my *5 only run on this #strategy channel lol.

#

Maybe this tier list is for *5 only run perspective actually

vital arrow
#

I do think franka has potental, but with shamare tequila and provence existing

sly drift
#

Because it just doesn't make sense at all Franka being that high if *6 included during the use

vital arrow
#

whats the merit of gambling rng when you can just permadebuff someone

sly drift
#

Are you actually never see the practical use of shamare+Gracebearer+Tequila don't shred the enemy?

vital arrow
#

very rarely

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because *5s lack firepower in the first place

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so at the end franka is like an OTP just for specific cases

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you end up playing the turtle tank and spank

sly drift
#

Exactly. That's where Franka actually THE ONLY operator that's work.

vital arrow
#

that doesnt make sense

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being niche should be in the third tier

sly drift
#

What was it again? 70%? It's not that hard to pull 70% lol

vital arrow
#

50%

sly drift
#

With mod?

vital arrow
#

70

sly drift
#

Yeeeaaa baby.

vital arrow
#

I'm still not convinced franka is that high

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single target 1 tile range dps

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with RNG factor

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shes a glorified sharp

sly drift
#

Maybe you haven't experience fucking shit stage using no *6

vital arrow
#

maybe I should

sly drift
vital arrow
#

which stage

sly drift
#

You can choose anything.

#

Maybe EP 15 golems

vital arrow
#

ep15 sounds plausible

sly drift
#

No guide video obviously. Thats for sore loser. Theres no point on this with that.

odd forge
#

I like cooking

plucky flint
#

why is lunacub and meteorite below tier than platinum if your use case of plat is range and bit higher damage than normal mm ReedBean

vital arrow
#

why would I use a guide video

pearl compass
#

Because you're washed

vital arrow
#

I mean we're all equally washed

sly drift
vital arrow
#

this is just shooting yourself in each foot and finding out how far you can run

sly drift
#

Also I'm actually conflicted on where to put Lunacub. Her kit is very good on paper. But for fk sake her skill have no +Atk% or something

plucky flint
sly drift
#

And when you pick S1, there's no point to use her on the first place because she lose her Camo

plucky flint
#

and heck, even in a rush stage, April does a lot better than plat

#

lunacub is for trash mobs, so you're gonna pick s2 ReedBean

odd forge
#

Frostleaf s3

river atlas
#

Frostleaf module not removing the debuff is fucking tragic

odd forge
pearl compass
#

And giving the Cold chance thing upon attack is a fucking offense.

#

25%

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Mod3

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When you need 6,25% to actually procc Freeze.

#

And chance is zero if heavily ASPD down.

sly drift
sly drift
#

You guys should make five star tier list too. You should experience the struggle of choosing this "Equally useless" ops DocSmile

fierce narwhal
#

I want to kill Seaborn(SN-10)
But cannot kill seaborn

vital arrow
#

whats killing you

fierce narwhal
#

Phase three’s start

#

That or oops all dodge rng

vital arrow
#

consider using lappland

fierce narwhal
vital arrow
#

lappland

fierce narwhal
#

I more meant

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Why?

vital arrow
#

silence

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disables dodge

fierce narwhal
#

Ah.

#

Good to know, to say the least

#

Any uh, other tips?

vital arrow
#

dont let the boss eat the tree mob buff

fierce narwhal
#

Ok, I’ll try my best

dim gyro
#

What's the gimmick on 16-12? I'm too smooth brain

pearl compass
elder flume
#

bear hate taking damage

#

bear angry at damager

pearl compass
#

Alternatively, you can straightforward tank him

elder flume
#

bear eepy after anger

pearl compass
#

With big DEF Defender.

#

Really big one.

dim gyro
#

I see. Would tragodia work?

Even hoshi alter couldnt survive

pearl compass
#

You need a NORMAL one.

dim gyro
#

O

elder flume
#

Cuora E1 60 is enough for adverse0

#

Hoshi S1 is just a win

dim gyro
#

Let me try normal hoshi lol

pearl compass
#

E2-60 S2M3 ModX3 and he will stuck.

prisma ledge
prisma ledge
#

X mark just means Silence-able

fierce narwhal
#

Lapp barely got used funnily enough

wheat python
#

i have mantra and trag which starter selector works good with them saria thorns or mountain ?

left egret
#

So as for 11-20, it is not a farm stage, right? My roster just can't with steamknight, so thinking about borrowing good caster. Or I am skill issue

glass monolith
#

Well average why the is steam knight gamer dies to bombardment, not to lack of dps

pearl compass
#

4 tanky defenders and he's basically stuck.

left egret
#

My defenders die of that melee extra damage machines that spawn at the end, so yeah bombarding kinda is a problem

vital arrow
#

well we dont know what youre using thre

#

thats a start

left egret
#

This team. No more good defenders sadly

hidden axle
#

SN-10?

vital arrow
#

theyre kinda underleveled dont you think

#

plus zero range for the artillery

pearl compass
#

Tho you have Click

#

Add Steward and you can kill those Bombards from their spawn.

#

Before they even starts moving.

#

One defender to block the boss, strong singletarget healer like Silence.

#

Surtr can even force him to Phase 2 tho.

#

Specter is kinda tanky at E2.

azure roost
hidden axle
#

Any reason we aren't borrowing DocSmile

pearl compass
#

He wants to farm this shit.

#

Despite it might not a farm stage, but anyway

hidden axle
azure roost
civic bear
#

You could surtr cuora specter stall

#

For the boss

#

Issue is just arti

#

I feel like 1 diff op would help

#

Dunno what they have th

left egret
#

Just used wisadel support and the stage is done. But still should I consider getting e2 for cuora?

glass monolith
#

Depends on your options, she won't hurt to have in case of content countered by DEF and cheap cuz 4*.

wicked minnow
#

before jessicalter, i had cuora as my 1 and only built brick defender

#

she does her job quite well but i'd have to admit i dont bring her around often

indigo helm
#

Can Arts Dodge like guard Amiya S1 or Nightingale S3 dodge the chapter 16 boss instant kill?

pearl compass
#

Cannot escape this.

elder flume
#

new damage type force retreat

pearl compass
#

She will EVEN instaKIA immortality units.

#

Such as Surtr or SpecAlt.

#

Or even HoshiAlter.

indigo helm
pearl compass
#

Moreover.

indigo helm
#

..or when I need 4 block

indigo helm
indigo helm
#

Sucks

foggy grove
#

nian has more

pearl compass
maiden hound
#

one two three gravel one two three gravel one two three gravel
and so on

indigo helm
#

well to be fair nightingale is still a good choice cuz

#

She has two gravels for free

#

!!!

pearl compass
#

Better to worthless dude take the instakill rather than valuable ops.

indigo helm
#

ya

foggy grove
#

there is also cement meme

pearl compass
sly drift
pearl compass
#

Videoproof or be me

sly drift
elder flume
#

both choices seem L

austere crypt
#

Are there anyone able to keep ops alive against 4 fortbreakers?

pearl compass
#

Or you're talking about different map

austere crypt
#

I use hoshi for that side and se holds it easily

#

Its the 4 breakers that is the problem

pearl compass
#

Ah, in that case, Tragodia.

#

And Shu.

#

On S3.

#

Otherwise they will get through and kill everyone.

austere crypt
#

Ill try it

#

I just remembered about CE

#

I wonder if she'll die 1st tho

austere crypt
#

Guess what

#

M3 s2 is enough for healing, hoshi s3 can take the 4 fortbreakers and saki takes the other 2

pearl compass
#

Nice.

azure roost
hexed zodiac
#

<@&586570970345635868>

floral wigeon
#

is this okay?

elder flume
#

who is healing mlynar

pearl compass
#

Ptilo looking left.

#

Because you aren't planning putting someone in bottom.

hidden axle
#

Is this some anni

glass monolith
#

Nah it is funny map which can be finished in funny way if you Ambriel s2 a little

wicked minnow
#

it's the ling solo map SoraWow

pearl compass
#

With Mortars spawncamping from top left.

pearl compass
hidden axle
#

Bro how do ppl struggle on this map FiaDed

glass monolith
#

no e2s (outside free 5* boost), probably 2-3 ass 6*s, still no ideas what they are doing because it is not chapter 8 checks for thinking capacity HellaKek

daring escarp
#

I struggled

#

(I had shit ops)

hidden axle
#

I didnt struggle
(I had shit ops and I was noob, not to mention this was in 2021-22)

#

I just knew how to read ExeNaruhodo

pearl compass
glass monolith
#

I wasn't big on roster sharing and this is closest i have to signal what kind of shit i was doing in 2022 HellaKek #strategy message

hidden axle
#

Chen alter spotted = not shit roster

glass monolith
#

I have sinned, i rarity abused.
7-9 punished me

hidden axle
#

Ah 7-9 Art

daring escarp
hidden axle
hidden axle
#

This isnt 7-9 🥀

daring escarp
#

7-16

pearl compass
hidden axle
#

Exactly LappDumb how do you have dp issues

pearl compass
#

Because you won't retreat ops before they die

Duh

daring escarp
#

Deployment order problems more than dp problems ngl

hidden axle
somber falcon
daring escarp
#

Fast redeploys

#

Or use defenders to bait mortars

#

Or use someone to kill mortars from range

sly drift
# pearl compass

Yea.. this was though back on release ngl. It feels exactly like today 16-15 if you purposely don't use any meta.

#

Like... Down to the gimmick, 16-15 is modern 7-16 lmfao

glass monolith
#

Modern 7-16 and bootleg Not last steam knight HellaKek

floral wigeon
#

guys im already done w/ this stage please stop talking abt it

#

im planning to beat 7-18 and chapter 8 tomorrow

exotic grove
#

can’t imagine doing that with only 7 ops non meta

wicked minnow
#

dead in 4 shots lmao

#

thanks to his new mod it was pretty easy to deal with the stage

exotic grove
#

teq mod gives reflect? sick

wicked minnow
#

no

#

he already had reflect

#

it just makes it usable

#

it increases tha damage by around 76% and now applies it to the ally behind

#

just had to check

#

it's 76% increase

#

lol

#

those mortars got rolled and smoked

exotic grove
#

wonder if bubble can make it work too

wicked minnow
#

it also applies the reflect damage even when they are hidden

wicked minnow
#

for instance czerny doesnt work at all even tho the mortars aoe is arts dmg

#

i didnt use tequilla for 16-15 the first time round but god does he make it easy asf

exotic grove
#

yeah idk I don't have a bubble to borrow lmao
I can imagine
half my struggle was just getting the mortars dead in time and cycling bait for them

#

that team is cooked without bagpipe

void terrace
#

This is possible???

astral cosmos
#

yes

void terrace
#

Bruh

hexed zodiac
limpid ore
#

you surely have enough plan

#

just go Talon

sterile delta
#

class squad is better at d16+

hexed zodiac
#

I’m firmly on the lamp train, I tried to make 1-3-5 work with talon but it’s just sooooo much easier with lamp. You don’t even need to worry about fractured mind sp penalty with one of the kings relics

sterile delta
hexed zodiac
#

I can see it working with talon I just ran out of irl sanity

sterile delta
#

take bad neighbors, fated 1st encounter, refresh next encounter
if you fail the fated 1st encounter just pack it up

#

talons is just more volatile

#

higher chance of being able to do 2a45t3f but you also explode a lot

willow abyss
#

10-16 adverse 5 star only. i am going to cry this shit feeeels impossible

daring escarp
#

The boss can be stalled

#

And use high block to nuke the boss and then dps it

willow abyss
#

brother what boss in 10-16

daring escarp
#

I mean even phase 1 is can be kinda dpsed if you want

willow abyss
#

chapter 10

daring escarp
#

Oh i thought it was boss stage

#

Its easy asf if not

willow abyss
#

tell me then gng

astral cosmos
#

what even is 10-16

rich plover
#

Regarding the Retreating Miners in 16-13, does it refer to the starting ones?

willow abyss
#

3 waves of enemies, 10 elites, 2 londonium artilleries bombartments to survive

hexed zodiac
#

And king relics even just one or two makes the combat up to that point a lot easier

sterile delta
#

its pretty pointless to take talons against easier endings since lamp class squads get you there more reliably ya
but you'd have to really highroll a lamp run to do the hardest stuff which is where stuff like talons and collections/ingots are played

hexed zodiac
#

Yeah I’m going to go for the harder 2-4-5 ending soon and try both like I did for 135 and see how I like it

sterile delta
#

definitely take class squad for 245, petal will be horrible if you dont

#

either that or playing ingots/collections/tree(lmao) and rolling into hope relics

hexed zodiac
#

🤔 we will see I think I hit max attack speed in my run with lamp so if I have anything even remotely close to that any challenge should be fine

molten halo
#

Where are the rock farmers. I've got nothing to do besides 1-7 and wanted to know the orundum yield if I had 2 factories and 2 postal offices focused on orundum production

river atlas
void terrace
#

Damn honestly mantra and trag are

#

Quite amazing as a duo

#

Like yes they take up 2 deployment slots and yes their cool downs are long

#

But they can both nuke an entire wave or stall a boss in place while still dealing great e damage to them for 30s plus

#

Mantra module does a lot for the combo, acting as a 'pity' incase enemies attack and don't get stack overflows

tender orbit
#

Isnt 40s downtime like standard SoraWow

vital arrow
#

It is

#

Honestly I'm disappointed by mantra and trag

sly drift
#
  • Enemy reveal (invisible as Annoying risk)
  • a Caster (Along with usual Ceobe as main dps, and Mostima in caster comp)
  • Damage Burst done in 1-2 seconds (You can retreat her immediately after, for next op to deploy)
  • combo with Tragodia (Which have great stall usage)

Tbh I can already see her used in upcoming CC

rustic eagle
#

I don’t know if this is too superficial or obvious of a question to ask here but how’s the virtuosa golden glow combo? If it’s a thing?

sly drift
#

Virtuosa is with Nymph

crisp bolt
#

-# bro looking for the yu gg combo

sly drift
#

Is it the way to cope or something RedOmegaLul

crisp bolt
#

I still see people shill it everywhere 🥀

#

something something "Wow it's so broken it deletes everything from global range"

#

until they run into the enemy where it doesn't

rustic eagle
# sly drift What is the interaction there?

That was part of the question tbf 😅, I don’t remember shit apart from it being mentioned, but I think it was from spamming necrosis ticks with her drones with virtuosa S2

rustic eagle
sly drift
#

Yea it works I guess. But it's those kind of "What the hell?" combo to use RedOmegaLul

sly drift
crisp bolt
#

tutu s2 tech ExuStare

rustic eagle
#

Oh btw, completely unrelated but what stuff lappalt is good with?AkaneEat

sly drift
#

Global range attack. But much higher total damage and longer cooldown

narrow pendant
#

Lappalt is just, goldenglow 2.0

#

That loses at like, 70 something res

rustic eagle
sly drift
narrow pendant
#

Idr exactly sinnce the last time i took a look at the dps math, was when lappalt was available

rustic eagle
#

I see

sly drift
#

With very ideal situation I think Lappland deals like 230k 190k total damage or something iirc. Which is the highest on the game.

sonic willow
#

highest in terms of what

sly drift
#

Oh wait.. it's actually 190k RedOmegaLul

#

Hoshi is still higher

#

My bad g

scarlet fulcrum
#

Dude fishing again

narrow pendant
#

Who taught him ti fish

rustic eagle
sly drift
#

Yea.. then that's it

sonic willow
#

🥀

plucky flint
scarlet fulcrum
#

Very sadge graphic

plucky flint
#

why would you use them against enemies with that res

stray forum
#

realistically you arent using either of them in a situation with enemies at that high res

sonic willow
#

gg > lapp2

#

the numbers don't lie

fringe solstice
#

mod y ReedBean

stray forum
#

gg>lapp2 in cuteness

rustic eagle
#

Also, is it true that golden glow’s dmg is inconsistent AF

scarlet fulcrum
#

More like Why would you use them

stray forum
rustic eagle
#

😭 peak design

sly drift
elder flume
#

they fixed her auto seed to be consistent so ig thats that

stray forum
#

it averages out after a while but its more noticeable against multi target

scarlet fulcrum
#

this is the guy who want to sparks her. Not having her

sly drift
#

@rustic eagle do you have Goldenglow?

scarlet fulcrum
#

Peak EN

rustic eagle
#

I don’t have anything at allSkadiDaijoubu

plucky flint
sly drift
#

What's even the point of this conversation since the beginning RedOmegaLul

rustic eagle
#

Information AkanePat

#

I like information

sly drift
#

Sure I guess DocSmile

plucky flint
rustic eagle
#

Some is stuff I’ve already looked into

#

Not all

sly drift
fringe solstice
#

wdym just get 300 pulls BlitzSmile

heavy mason
#

Stupid question but how do I stop leaking arts drones

#

I hate them with all my heart

fringe solstice
#

on what stage

heavy mason
#

Lungmen downtown

#

It’s the bottom half cause arts 2 one shots kroos

#

And I then have to watch as that same drone leaves to the exit

pearl compass
#

You still use Kroos and add stronger medic.

heavy mason
#

Like silence?

pearl compass
#

Why not?

sly drift
#

If kross somehow dies it probably just your deployment order(?)

plucky flint
#

how about deploy ur defender last instead of kroos

pearl compass
#

And that one too also helps.

heavy mason
#

Kk thx

#

I’ll try that and see if it works

vital arrow
#

its aggro 101

plucky flint
#

if it's not then level up ur kroos RedOmegaLul

past nacelle
#

after 3 days of upgrading hoshialt and sakiko module

plucky flint
#

trag wasn't even deployed once Bnuuy

pearl compass
#

Yeah, I like this Auto.

past nacelle
hidden axle
#

Sounds lile deployment order issue

snow juniper
#

I barely managed to beat it with this team

#

And why sakiko? I didn't even try her since I assumed the def on the big robots would make her useless

elder flume
#

Mod shredding 60% def moment

river atlas
snow juniper
elder flume
#

80% of Unbuilt ops are useless ReedBean

full terrace
#

Devs be like: let's create some spiked originium slug to kill your Wisadel

#

And Tragodia be like: what slug?

pearl compass
#

Jokes on you, cat has sourced damage.

#

Rip Trag

full terrace
#

Huh? I'm pretty sure I just used Trag to kill all of em off

#

Pretty interesting they reflect cat as well

exotic grove
#

just tested it it's sourced

#

bro got mogged

pearl compass
#

So yeah

full terrace
#

RIP your Trag, mine survived 😏

pearl compass
#

Don't Trag the reflect mobs

#

YatoAlter S3 or ReedAlter them instead.

wicked minnow
#

trag normal attacks mogs them smh

pearl compass
#

Also Virtuosa S3 is working.

full terrace
#

H stages are open now?

#

I went from login once every 24 hours to once every 48 hours

pearl compass
exotic grove
pearl compass
#

@full terrace

full terrace
#

Ah okay thanks for letting me know

elder flume
#

you better use your RM pulls DuskGun

full terrace
#

What is that?

pearl compass
#

Oh wait nvm, I thought you asked what's this

elder flume
#

734 🥀

glass monolith
#

I used Wisadel S1, she did 200 damage. I used Fia S3. She did 2000 damage. Fia > Wisadel in RM HellaKek

pearl compass
#

Birb stronk yey

#

Maxout your Fia bye

elder flume
#

i use Wis to perma stun Pompeii

full terrace
#

Lemu carried me hard in RM

#

Especially the doggo

#

The wolfie

pearl compass
#

Standing there
I realized

exotic grove
#

YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME
TRYING TO MAKE HISTORYYYYY

glass monolith
#

H stages up on jp?

full terrace
#

Wait what

#

How did the stage clear itself

river atlas
#

which one

full terrace
#

I went to cook myself a late night meal and came back to a stage clear report

river atlas
#

did you go afk on 16-17

glass monolith
lapis hornet
#

isn't it ez to afk

full terrace
#

Oh there is a timer and you get a clear if the timer runs out?

#

So many new things

#

Alright I guess I'll come back in 48 hours

#

See you guys

exotic grove
#

no way sakichan’s homing missiles followed the yurodstvo to another floor RedOmegaLul

glass monolith
#

Miner yapping freezes stage, but not the timer.
Now I need to watch some videos about dumb coding of SCP game

daring escarp
elder flume
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1.1 million surely

wide hare
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Ling's S2 works wonders as 16-12 bear staller 😂😂

long lotus
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wat is the low star clear for 16-16?

pearl compass
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I didn't saw those.

elder flume
pearl compass
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Someone's E2 or all E1-60?

elder flume
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E2 ofc

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FSLO wouldnt gimp themselves

pearl compass
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Ah shit

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Kyo won't repeat that

elder flume
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idt Kyo runs non single core anymore

pearl compass
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He does when stage allows that.

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But if it's too scuffed, he will make 2 SixStar core ops instead.

azure roost
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pro dalao

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do my h stage

serene umbra
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Hello ! Any idea for how to clear this level ? I'm struggling with this😔

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Especially with too many enemies

serene umbra
pearl compass
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Ya have Entelechia?

serene umbra
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Yes

pearl compass
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She should be from TechTree upgrade

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I want her E1-50 at least.

serene umbra
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But I don't have enough to up the skill😭

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Oh

pearl compass
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Max skill level possible

serene umbra
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I put her instead of ?

pearl compass
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Advalchiel

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He does nothing really