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what is jaye hps against bear?
I doubt Jaye would survive even one hit from the bear
its an infected creature
-# imagine mod3 jaye
assuming e2 no mod no mastery, he has 737 atk * 1.5 from talent * 1.4 from s2 and heals for 40% of the dmg dealt
bear has 300 def
stabs for 1247 and heals for 499 hp
Silvergun 2op runs Bubble for atk down
787 * 1.6 * 1.6 = 2014 - 300 = 1714 * 0.5 = 857 hp/stab w module and m3
cuora works!
damn math
wow jaye is cool
btw rain can you make a video of ines stall
is it s3m3?
Not this one tho. The IS6 "Beyond Mount and Sea"
i don't think mastery helps ines s3 for bear stall, does it?
just faster killing ig
if u bring jaye s1 u can go take a nap
oh mb
Not really
For enraged
Phase1 dmg reduction -50%
Phase2 dr -60%

helll yeah. putting in the good word for bison. god's work
bison takes minimum damage off-skill on adverse 
sarcastic inhale. "But defenders don't do DaMaGe"
maybe just your defenders dont deal damage 
Ones which do - don't live to tell how they fistfight random RUSrsus bear 
This hard?
Depends.
pretty pain imo
Lot easier with a taunt unit
I'm scared
we acting like there are 15 taunt units in the game (there is like 2 or 3)
and the main ones are 6 stars
ow
There are 10 taunt operators, and one of them is a 4* and one is a welfare
so the only one we should expect is bubble huh
unless czerny
cus no one is playing bison
the rest is yu or mylnar or jessica alter
If yoy have vendela she can give your units taunt
setting vendela up on that stage gota be pretty rough
Easy, just some launcher on left and and unblocked mobs on the right side iirc
lee, penance, yu, mlynar, ascalon, bison, bubble, czerny, mutsumi
Ascalon doesnt count since her archetype's negative taunt neutralises it
We got 1 welfare, 1 4*, an op from the collab 2 banners ago, an op on the last banner, and an extremely meta liberator u can easily borrow
Ascalon s3 gives +2 lvls of taunt to negate the trait
Are you sure its +2, this was brought up earlier and back then ppl said its +1 
U can test it yourself very easily

Well it is -1 so +2 makes it +1 or whatever. Just stall stage for 25 hours to break timers (I love how POO forced them to increase timers 50x times) 
Me using Vendela S2
Well 6 stars are practical, but after you have practical team sometimes there is a crippling idea of "Why the F not"
Oh true
I wonder if his "Spiritual Burden" Skill will be used every 4 hit or just on 4th hit on the same target
Every 4th, there isn't even same target in description
Well, just to make sure, trying to bait his 4th hit but didn't see any domain showed up
It spawns black smoke with delay for me but it definitely spawns
If you somehow baited it into maps red smoke it might overlap into being basically invisible but it is there
Generally its noticeable by the fact that it instantly kills whoever it hits
Got it, thank you for clarification
Well instakill inside fog activates on following activation because unit is not inside fog before first one
Any tips for clearing those annoying Abnormal Slugs? Can't use most ranged unit on top lane since my healer just can't keep em healed
Spectre
Aoe damage!
M3 also works
Like child with eye patch, mommy blaze and spectre
No Spectre, will try Zuole there though, hope he survive
Zuo le s2 / s3 should work
Using s3 for clearing lane!
Which stage is this
S2 for goes brrrrr goes brrr
16
Cuz I am pretty sure you can place a medic for the op dealing with slugs for every slug map
Btw zuo Lee Rock cannot be healing
ReedAlter or Virtuosa S3.
Slow down enemies! Oh yeah
I used ReedAlter back then.
I'mma do some edit since typing only slug cause confusion
I used degenbrecher to nuke them and to kill elites
Having medic is also helping
Better if 2

But still miners clear half of their shields
Mine them away 
But he can heal from normal attacks and his shield will eat the reflect dmg for him
Zuo Le works
How can i not thinking do aoe dmg, ty for suggestion, at least i'm done with phase 1, only need to deal with Phase 2 now
What are you cooking up
God damn the seaborn, Stultifera stage ten, here’s my team and little robot parts, anything that I should change
67
Anyway, how the f do you do 16-7?
Well, all wiped up by those rockets guy
Hardstuck there now 🙁
What's stage map looks like
3 Blueboxes on the bottom center
How the fuck i did 16-7 simulation+2 is pretty valid question 
Oh
And I can't even Standard.
I did put leizi alter on three checkpoint boxes and put caster and medic.
Well civilian needing literal surtr hospital to keep them alive, timing on civilian summoners can go to hell, and uh.... Screw molotov throwers while at it.
and ranged bow dudes on side might one tap most e1 ranged operators
I get wiped by the rocket launcher.
Will try using more
then.
Finally passed this stage, Zuole surely help
Anyone?
I'm newbie, i do stage mostly with bruteforce
Bring a therapist, ideally lumen, the boss does so much nervous impairment that your better off removing the stun than trying to prevent nervous impairment
Hoshi2 isn’t the best for this as she can’t be healed when her health is negative, bubble is good enough for tanking
Got it, but the farthest I’ve gotten is when the spewers spawn
You can remove all of the nethersea brand from the stage if you time the hand of the saint well enough, none of the spawners appear after the second phase, the brand on the left side can be ignored
I can clear the brand mostly fine, but once I get to third phase, everyone just starts melting, that and the stupid ass top left
Hoshi2 might be able to kill everything in the top left, I used firewhistle so any tanky arts dealing unit should work
Then who do i put for the enemies from the left most red box?
Cause I was putting Degen top Right, Hoshi to block just to Degens Bottom left
Using Hoshi and Degen to nuke the boss as it spawns each phase
Tin man for the brandguider, kroos alter for everything else
Wait sorry
Wrong stage
Was thinking for ex 8
Well who are u using and have
dunno how to share my pack, so this way usualy i take wis'del or sakiko and somehow i'am trying it
I honestly don’t remember what I did for sn 10 so I can’t help too much
Why are pramanix and whisperin e2 
I think I used tin man and tequila for the spewer wave and had Specter deal with the rest
well it happened
Well if you play without sound during her S2 then i am fine 
They only has 4 e2 ops and theyre raidian, whisperain, pram, and jessica
If you play Whsiperain with sound, bonus points if IS with attack speed relics. Then there is nothing in this world to annoy you by sound alone
What you don’t like your ears bleeding out during stages
today is a month as i am playing and well i dunno if i know what i am doing XD
Disagree, honeyberry s1 is worse in is
especially in regard to your RIIC base setup
RIIC ?
I honestly don't recall what it means, Rhodes Island Industrial Complex?
Basically base building min maxers live over there #r-i-i-c if you want to get all you can out of passive income
how do i do this?
status before i stop
Ah yes funny mortal guys map. Mind deploy order and remember to provide medics to whatever is deployed last to be victim of constant bombardment

Out of sheer curiosity do we have any story maps that can be beaten only by using its mechanics? As in zero ops whatsoever
I was thinking about the ones where enemies naturally take dot but I can't find them again
Well techically we had 2 roadblock stages with bleed tiles where almost everything bleed out half way to box
4-4? the one with the blocks?
There is also one in chapter 7 i think but i dont recall number
7-12?
probably
Trying 7-12 but it's kinda weird to make the Merc walk back and fourth enough while not messing up for the others
BB-9

The one in ch7 cm
Durin solo
They die but damn...it's so close sometimes
I don't think we have enough boxes to make the mercs stroll enough to die. 13 looks like a lot at first but when you need to delete and reapply a couple of times it becomes a problem for me
I'm sure some bilibili maniac genius has figured this out
I mean, it looks possible, it feeeeeels possible
Oh, ye, probably someone already did but now I wanna figure this out myself. This really really feels possible
The seaborn suffering has not ended, Pain.(SN-10)
They build the rocket
?
Ok ok, progress! Got to ~50% but the second merc wave messed me up. This can be done, this will be done 
Also, the dogs running diagonally and avoiding the dot took me by surprise, I need to account for this next time
With Ptilopsis as a witness this dog is giving me heart attacks
and this is only enemy 7
Oh ye, but they always die the same, could be the first or the last dog
Did it!!! Hell yeah!! ☀️
does the exialt mr nothing 2op 16-12 ss2 require you to gamble his s2 buff?
or do u just not use s2 at all
oh yeah no activation works

Timely finished medal set 
hm ok so you have to retreat exia as soon as bear enters phase 2
I'm getting boned on phase2 😭
doing simu?
Yeah you have to redeploy exu2 to get the barrier again to tank the rock throw if thats what you mean
yeah I need like one extra second so I can get exia's skill online
the rock hits her right before it ticks over to 30 sp
I'm trying stalling bear in different spots during phase 1
is it just a case of I need to retreat her on the frame the bear enters phase 2
idk what that means but sure
wdym not a challenge run
challenge run indeed
I'm trying sand reckoner amiya strat that zatpp was doing after this beacuse he was having trouble with amiya dying and my amiya is masteried and modded and his isn't
What restrictions besides 2op
the amiya strat isn't 2op
it's amiya sandreckoner podenco cuora jaye
the exia nothing strat is 2op
ughhh it's still not enough
I literally need like half a second more for her skill to charge faster
wait
maybe I could try putting her in a spot farther away so rock has more distance to travel giving me more time
use texas to deploy them like 2 second earlier
first off that makes it 3op and lame
second dp is the not the issue
Don't need s2
Since he gets it from talent


It's possible with e2 amiya
Its impossible with e1 amiya
I probably can swap jaye with red
But idk if its enough to heal up during that time

urgh still stuck
can't figure out how to position so that she charges in time
gonna try one last spot
LOL THAT WAS TOO CLOSE
WHERE DO I PUT HER
AAAAA
are you playing some niche?
she doesn't reach 30sp before rock hits no matter what I do
I think you need to wait for both and then let nothing tank the rock so 10 seconds pass and during this time you can use exu s2 to stun the bear and nothing permastuns
Easy right
he can tank rock?
If you can manage to
so drop him far enough behind bear where it won't melee
It shouldnt since my amiya is like some percentage away from death from a rock hit
Kinda like that
or wait no put him right above or below bear at the right time so it does a single rock throw then walks into his range
Infront of the bear and when he releases from the stun and able to stun the bear
And during this time you need extra time for exu s2 rdp time
Jinda like that yes
But ehh
Doesn't change anything
And putting upfront is further from the bear
On his straight line
He will prio nothing since he's first to deploy
And you shall exu2
oh I see what u mean
nvm he instadies to rock
I need to drop him right at the start so he can redeploy fast enough
What are stats for the nothing
Since my amiya 1850 106 def barely enough to tank it

2782 HP 396 DEF
bear throws rock while in enraged state (orange bar)
Oh shi
the problem with my second strat that I'm trying now is that nothing rdp time is like 20s, which lines up with bear rock recharge time
hoping I can beat it somehow
You can stun first rock throw fr
surely
can copy pasta just fine
how are u getting him there
bear just melees him
and without aspd steal he can't permastun
Thats exialt there
she's on cooldown
On she is on skill
she is on redeploy cooldown
Oh yours?
how do you get her there on phase 2 without nothing dying
where are you stalling it on phase 1?
On mid
I don't have time to redeploy nothing when doing that
idk if yk but mr nothing is only one that can do damage 
like 30 min+ ig
Yea, wasting time
do I need to send u a vid of the issue
wdym spec clear
Specialist record
idk what that is
Arkrec
never used it
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so when you stun an extra time on phase 1 are you keeping exu deployed?
No
the issue I'm having is that when I retreat exia the bear just exits his range
so I can't stun it again
I'm missing the issue, why are you retreating Exu2?
After enraged done bear will walk ignoring ur ops and prio checkpoints, rdp nothing to delay him there
can't, takes too long to recharge
how does it take too long?
U can
bear reaches exit right as nothing comes online
Its his talent not skill
I know it's his talent
I'm literally saying the bear exits the stage right as he is redeployable
there's no fucking way he's gonna have time to stun it if he has less than 1 sec to hit bear
No if u let enraged finish
????
Can leave the bar a bit low
I'm talking about when the bear gets the golden aura and starts limping towards the exit
after u hit the HP threshold in phase 1
even if I retreat him the instant the bear enters that wandering mode he will not be up and ready to stun again before it exits the stage
and he can't even hit the bear when it's in that mode
Ur nothing 20s right?
this is the best I can do and he barely has time to hit it before it leaves
you can see he doesn't even target it
how is he gonna stun it phase 1 if he can't target it
Do it in simulation
I'm still missing the point behind redeploying Exu2 
Did u pick hp risk?
yes
she will get stoned
Yea that one better to trigger it
if I had enough dp at start to put her by entrance I'd leave her there between phase 1 and 2
but I don't have enough dp
use Texas to simulate dp pots
is the record using pot6?
yeah, as most niche clears
Dont let nothing trigger phase 2 btw
Just let the enraged bar bit low then retreat exu, let bear kill him
the bear does self dmg?
the enraged bar is always at 0 when it triggers the retreat into phase2
idk how you'd kill fast enough to still have it when triggering retreat into phase2
Almost done
Yea, let the enraged bar on low, so when enraged done bear will wandering without invincible phase
Just watch that yea, smh
ok so I was doing it correctly
why was JJ saying I shouldn't be retreating her
I absolutely need to be retreating her
And bear ded, ez copy pasta
you don't have to, there are alternatives to the strat
like what
like the vid jj sent, you can block the rocks with exu shield
2 variants iirc
I thought that was a meme video from the thumbnail not a guide 
well it is a meme because it's a long clear. That's why you see saki in some of the clears
to speed it up

is there a recommended module for mumu? or is it situational
that's not what meme video means but ok
Its obv meme
#help pins read roadless
mod x lv2 for insta copy
the strategy is a meme sure but when I say "meme video" that means shitposting
Knight tech like its should be
I don't know what I'm supposed to get from that statement but sure ok thanks for helping
btw when you get it to work, tell me how long it takes
somebody said wisadel coulds solo the bear is this true
Bear funny targetting make it possible ye
6:28
from blackscreen to blackscreen
hmm I thought it would longer. grats 
thanks for helping all three of u
sry I got a bit heated just felt like ppl weren't understanding me
It's rng hell though, you need to roll for the stun before the bear nuke her
https://youtu.be/fJb9xeG8wwY
yeah wasn't too long
I hate dolly bro holy fck
Just uxe him bro
Lol, the bear play dead
Let's see how many will jump me this time for this.

now add 5stars in
Oh you don't know? That's fine.
What does, they build the rocket even mean??
Does this include IS as a criteria 
Useful overall in game. Shit op could be higher here because their IS mod is decent
Asking cuz hoe could go one tier higher
Pozy being higher than schwarz is kinda weird
Are you joking 
Swarz is nowhere as good as Pozy
also how dare you not put lux higher up
Schwarz sniper atk buff moment
For a newbje account you could still recommend pozy to aj extent but not schwarz
Pozy ceiling damage is still around 120k-140k iirc. She suck hard on high def but With slight enemy def debuff she is still beast even today
maybe im bad at using pozy idk
I tried to use her for a bit and i found it excruciatingly painful to use
I know u have to place the typewriter next to her, that’s the whole problem lol
Yeah
thats your nuerons activating
-# and thus I introduce nasti
its part of the process
I can just point schwarz down any lane and press button
lol?
yah placement matters
and its annoying most of the time
Does pozy’s module trait work on the typewriter
no
ignore dodge?
Yeah
personally, I would raise siege2, and eyja up a tier and ling and zuo le down a tier
and no you dont have to place typewriter next to her
its good but if it shafts her placement
I'd rather put it somewhere else
like minmaxing when you cant even get the max benefit defeats the point of minmaxing
you dont have to but it is the best thing to do when you can
it is, I'm saying you dont have to force it
it is important for hee to do more damage so i can keep using her!
forcing typewriter adjacent when you have to mald splitboxing an enemy when I can just put it behind the same enemy and get the same uptime
oh we also have mod x now
pozy got a lot of conditions for max damage
on s3 the enemy has to be in front 3 tiles
then the typewriter
Pozy alter with upcoming ursus event trust
it is zima
Machine gun
Modern typewrite that types with flash's speed 
Ranking five stars is significantly harder because like half of the ops are equally useless lol.
Nightmare in bottom tier is wild
100% bottom tier
Am i blind where is surfer
Surfer, grace etc after aren't there lol.
Ig no one update it
the healer that ignores damage dealt = heal 2 while having dodge and access to slow + true damage
Isnt 9 color deer extremely meta for workshop crafting
Unless this is strictly combat ig
Shes there mainly because like 100s cooldown or something I can't remember
While it actually just Reed archetype
Both iris and heidi are used a lot in IS iirc?
There are clever way to use Heidi. I have prove her very niche actually useful
iris isnt used in IS, indigo is
Yes..
Oh i confused the two oops
also why is ptilo in 6 star tier

She is Six stars 
tier list probably from year 2
if we're going by base usage as well whisperain/mulberry and ceylon shouldnt be on the bottom
the first 4 in useful being on the same level as april is also wild
Yeah, Mulberry is pretty good for a five star
mulberry/whisperain are used in exodia so 
First three is HUGE dph. Platinum is wider range with stable dps (Perma skill). I think they deserve Usaful tier
swire and czerny are also usable in base
wait tf is platinum doing there 
april is straight up better than all of them in general and advanced content idk man
pretty sure platinum isnt actually used
id consider putting deer into six star if we’re including base skills
also wtf is franka doing up there
Nononono.. for sure no. They are equally useful.
High DPH is really needed on five star run
LOL
That's exactly why I also put Franka on second highest tier
aint no fucking way they're as useful as an operator who is mid prio to rosmontis advanced gameplay in is3/5
oh so the metric is 5stars are only used on 5star only and not as a whole squad
also the concept of kazemaru being that low
Literally no one else works when enemy has abnormal def (About Franka)
i think id rather go back in time to the gamepress tierlist ngl
when the enemy has abnormal def you switch classes
I like flat women
instead of trying to bang your head against a wall
Also with abnormal res
how many enemies is that
who has that
then you pull out stallers
Caster amiya is useful eh
I dont think people use franka for patriot
True damage
they use amiya
I see I see
and if you put franka besides that enemy she probably would have 1 tapped 
if we're not factoring investment cost amiya should be higher
There are a lot of enemy actually. Not only Patriot
having 'potential usage'
amiya is the default true damage dealer of choice for 5 stars
is different than 'practical usage'
I USE IT frequently
also can we talk about the windchimes inclusion
You can see I always do my *5 only run on this #strategy channel lol.
Maybe this tier list is for *5 only run perspective actually
I do think franka has potental, but with shamare tequila and provence existing
Because it just doesn't make sense at all Franka being that high if *6 included during the use
whats the merit of gambling rng when you can just permadebuff someone
Are you actually never see the practical use of shamare+Gracebearer+Tequila don't shred the enemy?
very rarely
because *5s lack firepower in the first place
so at the end franka is like an OTP just for specific cases
you end up playing the turtle tank and spank
Exactly. That's where Franka actually THE ONLY operator that's work.
What was it again? 70%? It's not that hard to pull 70% lol
50%
With mod?
70
Yeeeaaa baby.
I'm still not convinced franka is that high
single target 1 tile range dps
with RNG factor
shes a glorified sharp
Maybe you haven't experience fucking shit stage using no *6
maybe I should
Where nothing works simply because enemy overwhelming stats
which stage
ep15 sounds plausible
No guide video obviously. Thats for sore loser. Theres no point on this with that.
I like cooking
why is lunacub and meteorite below tier than platinum if your use case of plat is range and bit higher damage than normal mm 
I mean we're all equally washed
It's my personal experience actually. I find her +1 range on S2 useful on several stages
this is just shooting yourself in each foot and finding out how far you can run
Also I'm actually conflicted on where to put Lunacub. Her kit is very good on paper. But for fk sake her skill have no +Atk% or something
surely lunacub and meteorite will do better if that's your case
And when you pick S1, there's no point to use her on the first place because she lose her Camo
and heck, even in a rush stage, April does a lot better than plat
lunacub is for trash mobs, so you're gonna pick s2 
Frostleaf s3
Frostleaf module not removing the debuff is fucking tragic

And giving the Cold chance thing upon attack is a fucking offense.
25%
Mod3
When you need 6,25% to actually procc Freeze.

And chance is zero if heavily ASPD down.
They leave actual useful upgrade for Frostleaf alter. Trust
You guys should make five star tier list too. You should experience the struggle of choosing this "Equally useless" ops 
whats killing you
consider using lappland
Forgot to put this
Lappland?
lappland
dont let the boss eat the tree mob buff
Ok, I’ll try my best
What's the gimmick on 16-12? I'm too smooth brain
Kite the boss endlessly across the map.
Alternatively, you can straightforward tank him
bear eepy after anger
I see. Would tragodia work?
Even hoshi alter couldnt survive
She has low DEF
You need a NORMAL one.
O
Let me try normal hoshi lol
Accurate description
Read enemy description, esp the ones that with dodge rng
X mark just means Silence-able
I beat it
Lapp barely got used funnily enough
i have mantra and trag which starter selector works good with them saria thorns or mountain ?
So as for 11-20, it is not a farm stage, right? My roster just can't with steamknight, so thinking about borrowing good caster. Or I am skill issue
check /material in #bot-spam
Well average why the is steam knight gamer dies to bombardment, not to lack of dps
You know that you can bamboozle him with special attack by just replacing the blocker?
4 tanky defenders and he's basically stuck.

My defenders die of that melee extra damage machines that spawn at the end, so yeah bombarding kinda is a problem
This team. No more good defenders sadly
SN-10?
Tho you have Click
Add Steward and you can kill those Bombards from their spawn.
Before they even starts moving.
One defender to block the boss, strong singletarget healer like Silence.
Surtr can even force him to Phase 2 tho.
Specter is kinda tanky at E2.

Any reason we aren't borrowing 

You could surtr cuora specter stall
For the boss
Issue is just arti
I feel like 1 diff op would help
Dunno what they have th
Just used wisadel support and the stage is done. But still should I consider getting e2 for cuora?
Depends on your options, she won't hurt to have in case of content countered by DEF and cheap cuz 4*.
before jessicalter, i had cuora as my 1 and only built brick defender
she does her job quite well but i'd have to admit i dont bring her around often
Can Arts Dodge like guard Amiya S1 or Nightingale S3 dodge the chapter 16 boss instant kill?
Nope, it's Ultimate.
Cannot escape this.
new damage type force retreat
She will EVEN instaKIA immortality units.
Such as Surtr or SpecAlt.
Or even HoshiAlter.
Cuora has the highest defense in the fucking game for a 4star and I think even above some 6stars with he module, I always bring her instead of healers in cases like this otherwise I bring Shu
Moreover.
..or when I need 4 block
jus bait g
Oh
pretty sure nian has more 
Sucks
nian has more
Just bait the 4th shot
one two three gravel one two three gravel one two three gravel
and so on
well to be fair nightingale is still a good choice cuz
She has two gravels for free
!!!
Better to worthless dude take the instakill rather than valuable ops.
ya
there is also cement meme
It's still enhanced basic attack anyway. I have seen project red dodge it 

both choices seem L
Are there anyone able to keep ops alive against 4 fortbreakers?
Isn't there's 6 on taking reinforcement risk on 16-16?
Or you're talking about different map
I use hoshi for that side and se holds it easily
Its the 4 breakers that is the problem
Ah, in that case, Tragodia.
And Shu.
On S3.
Otherwise they will get through and kill everyone.
Guess what
M3 s2 is enough for healing, hoshi s3 can take the 4 fortbreakers and saki takes the other 2

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is this okay?
who is healing mlynar
Is this some anni
Nah it is funny map which can be finished in funny way if you Ambriel s2 a little
it's the ling solo map 
Bro how do ppl struggle on this map 
no e2s (outside free 5* boost), probably 2-3 ass 6*s, still no ideas what they are doing because it is not chapter 8 checks for thinking capacity 
I didnt struggle
(I had shit ops and I was noob, not to mention this was in 2021-22)
I just knew how to read 
Deployment Order + Insufficient DP issues.

I wasn't big on roster sharing and this is closest i have to signal what kind of shit i was doing in 2022
#strategy message
Chen alter spotted = not shit roster
I have sinned, i rarity abused.
7-9 punished me
Ah 7-9 
I never read mechanics cuz the shit is throwing at you blindly then i will blindly learn everything


As usual deployment order is their main issue but wtf is this second issue

This isnt 7-9 🥀
7-16
Melee dying
You put a medic
Mortar kills medic
You cannot put more
Melee dies

Exactly
how do you have dp issues

Because you won't retreat ops before they die
Duh
Deployment order problems more than dp problems ngl

If only there's an op in this ss that can redeploy himself
Fast redeploys
Or use defenders to bait mortars
Or use someone to kill mortars from range
Yea.. this was though back on release ngl. It feels exactly like today 16-15 if you purposely don't use any meta.
Like... Down to the gimmick, 16-15 is modern 7-16 lmfao
Modern 7-16 and bootleg Not last steam knight 
guys im already done w/ this stage please stop talking abt it
im planning to beat 7-18 and chapter 8 tomorrow
you right this stage kinda pmo ngl
can’t imagine doing that with only 7 ops non meta
tequilla reflect kinda fucks those mortars 
dead in 4 shots lmao
thanks to his new mod it was pretty easy to deal with the stage
teq mod gives reflect? sick
no
he already had reflect
it just makes it usable
it increases tha damage by around 76% and now applies it to the ally behind
just had to check
it's 76% increase
lol
those mortars got rolled and smoked
wonder if bubble can make it work too
it also applies the reflect damage even when they are hidden
might wanna check if bubble works on aoe attacks
for instance czerny doesnt work at all even tho the mortars aoe is arts dmg
i didnt use tequilla for 16-15 the first time round but god does he make it easy asf
yeah idk I don't have a bubble to borrow lmao
I can imagine
half my struggle was just getting the mortars dead in time and cycling bait for them
that team is cooked without bagpipe
This is possible???
yes
Bruh
No blue print squad start? 
class squad is better at d16+
I’m firmly on the lamp train, I tried to make 1-3-5 work with talon but it’s just sooooo much easier with lamp. You don’t even need to worry about fractured mind sp penalty with one of the kings relics
sniper medic can take double encounter f1
I can see it working with talon I just ran out of irl sanity
take bad neighbors, fated 1st encounter, refresh next encounter
if you fail the fated 1st encounter just pack it up
talons is just more volatile
higher chance of being able to do 2a45t3f but you also explode a lot
10-16 adverse 5 star only. i am going to cry this shit feeeels impossible
brother what boss in 10-16
I mean even phase 1 is can be kinda dpsed if you want
chapter 10
tell me then gng
what even is 10-16
Regarding the Retreating Miners in 16-13, does it refer to the starting ones?
cancer
3 waves of enemies, 10 elites, 2 londonium artilleries bombartments to survive
It’s definitely easier on the irl sanity too bc you need to hit a certain point with relics ops and plans by floor 3 to consider it a good run. With lamp you do less battles then talon so it’s not as much of a time consuming process if you need to reroll your run
And king relics even just one or two makes the combat up to that point a lot easier
its pretty pointless to take talons against easier endings since lamp class squads get you there more reliably ya
but you'd have to really highroll a lamp run to do the hardest stuff which is where stuff like talons and collections/ingots are played
Yeah I’m going to go for the harder 2-4-5 ending soon and try both like I did for 135 and see how I like it
definitely take class squad for 245, petal will be horrible if you dont
either that or playing ingots/collections/tree(lmao) and rolling into hope relics
🤔 we will see I think I hit max attack speed in my run with lamp so if I have anything even remotely close to that any challenge should be fine
Where are the rock farmers. I've got nothing to do besides 1-7 and wanted to know the orundum yield if I had 2 factories and 2 postal offices focused on orundum production
Damn honestly mantra and trag are
Quite amazing as a duo
Like yes they take up 2 deployment slots and yes their cool downs are long
But they can both nuke an entire wave or stall a boss in place while still dealing great e damage to them for 30s plus
Mantra module does a lot for the combo, acting as a 'pity' incase enemies attack and don't get stack overflows
Isnt 40s downtime like standard 
When skill scale with enemy count.
- Enemy reveal (invisible as Annoying risk)
- a Caster (Along with usual Ceobe as main dps, and Mostima in caster comp)
- Damage Burst done in 1-2 seconds (You can retreat her immediately after, for next op to deploy)
- combo with Tragodia (Which have great stall usage)
Tbh I can already see her used in upcoming CC
I don’t know if this is too superficial or obvious of a question to ask here but how’s the virtuosa golden glow combo? If it’s a thing?
What is the interaction there?
Virtuosa is with Nymph
-# bro looking for the yu gg combo
Is it the way to cope or something 
I still see people shill it everywhere 🥀
something something "Wow it's so broken it deletes everything from global range"
until they run into the enemy where it doesn't
That was part of the question tbf 😅, I don’t remember shit apart from it being mentioned, but I think it was from spamming necrosis ticks with her drones with virtuosa S2
What’s that
Yea it works I guess. But it's those kind of "What the hell?" combo to use 
Yu and Goldenglow combo make more sense because Burn elemental reduce enemy res for goldenglow to shred harder.
tutu s2 tech 
Oh btw, completely unrelated but what stuff lappalt is good with?
Same as Goldenglow
Global range attack. But much higher total damage and longer cooldown
Wdym?
Goldenglow is better than Lappland against enemy with 70 res or higher
Idr exactly sinnce the last time i took a look at the dps math, was when lappalt was available
I see
With very ideal situation I think Lappland deals like 230k 190k total damage or something iirc. Which is the highest on the game.
highest in terms of what
190k and not the highest
Dude fishing again
Who taught him ti fish
I straight went on a yt video hoping they would bring this up and they did, it’s around 83 they say
Yea.. then that's it
🥀

Very sadge graphic
why would you use them against enemies with that res
realistically you arent using either of them in a situation with enemies at that high res
mod y 
gg>lapp2 in cuteness
Also, is it true that golden glow’s dmg is inconsistent AF
More like Why would you use them
yeah. ive run clears multiple times where in one she would kill a bunch of enemies and in the next wouldnt even kill a third of them
😭 peak design
Because that's the op of the few ops they have?
they fixed her auto seed to be consistent so ig thats that
it averages out after a while but its more noticeable against multi target
this is the guy who want to sparks her. Not having her
@rustic eagle do you have Goldenglow?
Peak EN
I don’t have anything at all

What's even the point of this conversation since the beginning 
Sure I guess 
have you checked the mechanics list in the pins 
Anyway do you have plan to spark Lappland Alter to begin with?
wdym just get 300 pulls 
on what stage
Lungmen downtown
It’s the bottom half cause arts 2 one shots kroos
And I then have to watch as that same drone leaves to the exit
You still use Kroos and add stronger medic.
Like silence?
Why not?
If kross somehow dies it probably just your deployment order(?)
how about deploy ur defender last instead of kroos
And that one too also helps.
its aggro 101
if it's not then level up ur kroos 
after 3 days of upgrading hoshialt and sakiko module
trag wasn't even deployed once 
the fortbreaker gotta kill him without him dealing any dmg anyway, i let him there just in case
Sounds lile deployment order issue
Holy hell how
I barely managed to beat it with this team
And why sakiko? I didn't even try her since I assumed the def on the big robots would make her useless
Mod shredding 60% def moment
she both does arts dmg and has extremely high defense + res ignore
Oh maybe I should build 
80% of Unbuilt ops are useless 
Devs be like: let's create some spiked originium slug to kill your Wisadel
And Tragodia be like: what slug?
Huh? I'm pretty sure I just used Trag to kill all of em off
Pretty interesting they reflect cat as well
So yeah
RIP your Trag, mine survived 😏
trag normal attacks mogs them smh
H stages are open now?
I went from login once every 24 hours to once every 48 hours
No. Will be in...
don't worry my trag is e0lv1 lil boy never seeing combat
Ah okay thanks for letting me know
you better use your RM pulls 
734 🥀
I used Wisadel S1, she did 200 damage. I used Fia S3. She did 2000 damage. Fia > Wisadel in RM 
i use Wis to perma stun Pompeii
Lemu carried me hard in RM
Especially the doggo
The wolfie
What are they doing this is taking forever 😂
YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME
TRYING TO MAKE HISTORYYYYY
H stages up on jp?
which one
I went to cook myself a late night meal and came back to a stage clear report
did you go afk on 16-17

isn't it ez to afk
Oh there is a timer and you get a clear if the timer runs out?
So many new things
Alright I guess I'll come back in 48 hours
See you guys
no way sakichan’s homing missiles followed the yurodstvo to another floor 
Miner yapping freezes stage, but not the timer.
Now I need to watch some videos about dumb coding of SCP game
Sakiko fever higher fr
1.1 million surely
Ling's S2 works wonders as 16-12 bear staller 😂😂
wat is the low star clear for 16-16?
I didn't saw those.
Someone's E2 or all E1-60?
idt Kyo runs non single core anymore
He does when stage allows that.
But if it's too scuffed, he will make 2 SixStar core ops instead.
Hello ! Any idea for how to clear this level ? I'm struggling with this😔
Especially with too many enemies
Show your squad.
Yes
Max skill level possible
I put her instead of ?











