strategy

[brittle mesa]

Like, Jaye has silence with duration of 2 minutes which is more than enough with merchant's fast attack speed

[sly drift]

Do you use Ethan to keep unblockable on "Light" tile?

[hidden axle]

Also it isnt 2 mins its 2 sec

[brittle mesa]

Oh yeah, my bad

[hidden axle]

2 sec at m3 damn

Sl7's 1 second also works, after all his attack interval is 1 sec

[lethal ferry]

And umiri

[sly drift]

Umiri sounds like a good pick

I actually shilling Scene right now lmao

I'm just so sick of these invisibility

[lethal ferry]

Umiri during fever can almost kill a mech. I’ve found totter can deal with almost the entire right side with just some help from the miners

[hidden axle]

Whoever thought unblockable inivisible enemies going through undeployable tiles is a good idea is getting a visit from me tonight fr

Its doable but holy moly its annoying

Smh my autos broke cuz miners didnt spawn in time

[lethal ferry]

Another good unit is mitim, as he entirely removes any threat from the first phase, and can force reveal three tiles on his own

[fierce narwhal]

MY BOY!

[lethal ferry]

The outfit was an instant get

[fierce narwhal]

Exactly!

It’s so damn good

I love my trash panda sarkaz

[lethal ferry]

His ability to just entirely invalidate any global range boss is incredible

[fierce narwhal]

How does he invalidate global range?

Is it just putting down Cherry-3 and using rubbish to take the Aggro ?

[lethal ferry]

Yep, works for almost all global range enemies that don’t have special targeting

[fierce narwhal]

I love my trash panda sarkaz even more now!

[glass monolith]

#strategy message glorified trash burner blieprint

[lethal ferry]

Also works for attack that prioritise clustered units like the masses travels or is6 ed2 bosses

Also often he lets you place units without worrying about aggro

[fierce narwhal]

Omg you’re right, Mitm gets placed, place your other main units, then Cherry-3 and the Aggro will be on Cherry-3!

[glass monolith]

Will he get pet back after forced retreat?

[lethal ferry]

Yes

[glass monolith]

[tawdry lily]

This can beat MN-8 of Maria Nearl… its a difficult and done recommend with this comp lmao

[lethal ferry]

He truly is the master baiter

[tawdry lily]

(dont do this to yourself btw)

[glass monolith]

Recommended level is lie. At least 3 of those ops didn't even exist by time of MN.

[maiden hound]

I have bigger questions

[fierce narwhal]

Especially the decadenza

[lethal ferry]

Carnelian usage in the big 26

[tawdry lily]

She was fodder

💀

It took me a while to find the right way to beat it with this team and I barely did. Lapland support unit basically saved it

[azure roost]

i use her

[odd forge]

Someone stop that horse, too fast to kill boss

[azure roost]

[halcyon adder]

Am i stupid or 16 16 strategic simulation is actually hard?

[odd forge]

Hmmm it depends on your 🐓

[hidden axle]

Also on risks

[glass monolith]

Also fuck shieldguards and WD-EX-8 tier jump scare in finale

[hidden axle]

Join me

[hidden axle]

Tho I should get better at miner management for H stages

[limpid ore]

oh btw, there are multiple emperor's blade

[azure roost]

[limpid ore]

[odd forge]

Frostleaf solo

[glass monolith]

Civilian 8 minute yapping solo

[limpid ore]

it's 7

[hidden axle]

5:30 or 6 if you want to fulfill ending condition asw

[odd forge]

Number 7

[robust pasture]

Someone build me a team for this

I'm still abit new

[hidden axle]

"This"

Let me use my family's black magic to find out which stage you mean

Regarsless build your base slaves first

#r-i-i-c pinned guide/ #help pinned guide/ /baseskill in #bot-spam

[robust pasture]

Well I am still at stage 4-4

[true stag]

4-4 is probably one of the easiest stage

[viral ridge]

mantra is in a difficult position, did you already use all your 6* recruitment tickets?

[robust pasture]

Yep

Well I can level up mantra to max

[halcyon adder]

Had to use weirdass team

[native ruin]

Anyone have a lamuen that i can borrow

[odd forge]

That's fine, your 🐓 are better than mine

[odd forge]

Build silence level 50 and rank 7, that should be fine, she's already op for healing with her drone.

[viral ridge]

less that she's underleveled and more that it's hard for her to get her max value with your current units

[odd forge]

My 🐓 are like only level 75 and max module and max mastery, I can cleared it anyway.

[robust pasture]

I see I see so what team should I build with my current units since I ain't gonna pull and will continue to save up for a better banner

[exotic grove]

surtr mantra specter krooster tequila silence fang/myrtle saria cuora gravel/kroos/pinecone/raidian/whatever you happen to need for a stage

[robust pasture]

Thank you very much

[exotic grove]

can use chen since u have her leveled a touch already, but she's kind bad so don't invest too much into her
wait for chen alter alter

surtr badly wants e2

[robust pasture]

I see

[tidal patrol]

sorry for keeping you waiting

[fierce narwhal]

You’re fine

[tidal patrol]

https://krooster.com/u/sweet-yellow-jaguar-69t5

[hidden axle]

Context? Usual "who to build"?

Ah base guy

[fierce narwhal]

Yep

[hidden axle]

/baseskill for base slaves

[tidal patrol]

I was using that base for a year

[plucky flint]

I backread and did I just saw 513 base

[hidden axle]

Its okay I have leftover bleach

[fierce narwhal]

Yes

[tidal patrol]

so I should just focus on the ops you told me about right?

[fierce narwhal]

Yeah, and did you check what base skill ops to level?

[tidal patrol]

Nope how I can see that

[fierce narwhal]

#bot-spam

[fierce narwhal]

Go here, Type, /baseskills

[tidal patrol]

Oh alr then ty

[glass monolith]

<@&586570970345635868> Requesting chapter 10 cannon

[rustic kayak]

Any team I can make to help me take care of early game

Also any recommended support to take

[exotic grove]

e2 logos, silverass, lapluma
get tequila and krooster from side stories
cheap early units that are useful include fang kroos steward ansel
beanstalk gravel nice to have e1
have you used your other 5* selector yet?
check pins roadless camelot in #help for newbie selector guide

[odd forge]

Do E1 level 50 from now, when you reached the top (chapters) .... do E2 lvl 60.

Also you need E2 amiya for continue to chapters

[glass monolith]

that's only for chapter 8 and 14 bosses (Well she can help on chapter 7 boss but modern units turn him into carpet)

[rustic kayak]

What does e2 mean

Also there is a selector ?

I didn't know

[glass monolith]

Second promotion (Elite 2)

[daring escarp]

I wish they added 4☆ incantation medic

I wanted to 4☆ and lower

[daring escarp]

I use him for silence

[glass monolith]

We have Texas alter s1 for that

[hidden axle]

Use your e2 provisio in battle trust

[rustic kayak]

Any recommended unit

[astral cosmos]

#help pins have all the info you need on these vouchers

[stiff thistle]

for killing patriot on 7-18, assuming you are using leizi2, does skill2 make the most sense?

[elder flume]

uh all 3 are good

S3 technically looks better if you setup early

[stiff thistle]

i'm trying S3 now, i was successful with S2, but it was a bit tight

i failed with S1

[daring escarp]

I maybe can do 6 ops but i'd need to use lvl 1 sand reckoner

[elder flume]

record is S1 lol

[stiff thistle]

oh really? i'm curious how that was setup

[scarlet fulcrum]

Still remember that ye

[elder flume]

you want enemies to be on Leizi2 tile to get the 3x damage

[stiff thistle]

ohh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Really interesting clear

[elder flume]

even had time to redeploy

[stiff thistle]

i was using pramanix during phase1 and silence2 during phase 2 to keep her alive 😭

i can't seem to find the website thats a directory of clear videos

[signal lichen]

try arc rec for starters

https://en.arkrec.com/

these are mostly reccords but i mean

you can also find a lot of different types of clears still

[elder flume]

a lot of it is just go to Bilibili and type stage name

not many players show their strats on Youtube

[signal lichen]

pretty much that as well

theres some yt stuff but yeah its kinda limited

[stiff thistle]

watching the leizi2 clear mentioned... this is crazy

[signal lichen]

mfw 7 mines left over

[daring escarp]

SHIT'S POSSIBLE

I need more attempts

Also i need to cycle enough: amiya, podenco, cuora, podenco, so i won't be dead entire time

And to learn a bit how to lure with sand reckoner

[signal lichen]

what stage are we trying

[daring escarp]

Cuora still needs to survive the enraged 1-2 hits

[daring escarp]

16-12

[signal lichen]

funny bear memes

[daring escarp]

6 ops low rarity and e1 or lower

[signal lichen]

mfw 5 ops e0

in reality thats not even that surprisng to me

you bait him so hard

[daring escarp]

Yea, trying to learn to bait more since rdp time

And i can't bait at the end since bear needs his checkpoint at left top corner

[signal lichen]

ok in fairness

this clear i am looking at using higher rairty

so they get some niche mechanics here

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ZrxCzeEny/?vd_source=a267abc2403db1839d8bc0afd5deb03c

lappland memes

and then frd memes

[daring escarp]

Straight up e0 nice

Lol lappy2 global abuse

[scarlet fulcrum]

It was almost same like e0 clear patrick

[signal lichen]

so you can also use ambriel for a smilar type of thing

also gg

pretty much anything gloal

he has to run all the frekaing way over

and thats half the battle

just waiting for rage phase to go away

actually

wouldn't if we wanna do low rarity e1 only

just ambriel + other frd's

yato gravel jaye red if we are doing 5 star

you got the idea also with a summoner and slow supporter

[elder flume]

2 star clear 16-17 gives secret ending

[hidden axle]

Dr. Silvergun has a 3 star and below clear so yeah possible

[hidden axle]

2 star and not destroying da rock?

[elder flume]

its really just rock and not needing 3 star clear

nah its always tied to rock

[hidden axle]

So just stall for rock break then leak, ez pz

[elder flume]

idk which rock is needed tho

unless first rock

[hidden axle]

I think its any rock

[stiff thistle]

finally found a use for exu2 S3, used it to quickly redeploy leizi2 elsewhere after phase1 patriot (7-18)

[daring escarp]

Alr, so i understood a bit about bear's mechanics, i need to use cuora retreat thingy to time right before fowl's atk to reset aggro from amiya and let bear go for left top checkpoint at the end so i will have to bait 3 rocks before silencing idk

[hidden axle]

Why retreat cuora

[daring escarp]

And sacrifice 3 fowls as his atk prio to slow down

[daring escarp]

Bear has silly aggro

And i need to sacrifice my cuora for the rdp time

[hidden axle]

Is this e0 obly or sth

[daring escarp]

LMAO

[daring escarp]

.

Cuora can tank double hit, so before third i need to time fowl atk to reset aggro from amiya by using cuora

Also forgot to mention since I'm using that checkpoint mechanic i need dp

[signal lichen]

well its also low op

we trying to figure out 5* e1 max lowest op possible

probably 5-6 ops

[daring escarp]

6 ops definitely

Cuz I'm using generic ones

Red, 2 abjurers, def brick, sand reckoner, medicmiya

Can even remove 1 abjurer

Since red is better at rdp management for team

And a lot better to save team from rocks at phase 2

[void terrace]

Guys quick question

When you use apply for case carrier in is6

For ending 4

Does it promote the operator?

[daring escarp]

Yea, but you can only use it during boss battle

On f6

[void terrace]

Oh it's fine I'm doing it on easiest difficulty to scope out maps and strats

[daring escarp]

Red s2, bison s1/2, quercus s1, sand reckoner s2, medicmiya idk

S2 helps on phase 1

S1 helps on phase 2 to cycle skills

Probably s1

[signal lichen]

people have frame counters on cn nani

how interesting

was looking through more clears of bear

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kp4y1j77H/?p=89&vd_source=a267abc2403db1839d8bc0afd5deb03c

heres a casters duo and i saw that

[daring escarp]

Damn

[signal lichen]

logos rng moment

can we not

[glass monolith]

Logos is best operator, every event there is some trust farm set up on youtube but it is e2 90 Logos with mod 3 and RNG depending winning

[daring escarp]

Ok i tested something

I need sand reckoner e1 for the clear

Also i think raidian s1 can tank 2 rock hits maybe?

[signal lichen]

the more i look at these clears

the more confused i am about the bears ai

(https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gB4EzWEFW/?vd_source=a267abc2403db1839d8bc0afd5deb03c)

the bear just walks his ass over to an empty tile because

ines was there?

[daring escarp]

Yes

His AI is basically 2 forced checkpoints

And every enemy hits him that changes the second checkpoint

And third trait in first form is changing first checkpoint

So he needs to pickup second checkpoint again to go for first checkpoint

First checkpoint after phase 1 ended are from 3 ladders to closest where he was before timer ran out/immortality

[daring vector]

Any recommended operators for IS2 Big Sad Lock ending? The DPS check is insane 😢

[river atlas]

Well who do u have

[signal lichen]

true damage operators generally is what i recommend

monster and kalsit

mizuki solo holds left lane

well usually if ok relics

just depends on his attack speed and interval but as for dps

exu helps clear stuff as usual

as well as ela

[daring vector]

https://www.krooster.com/u/chopi
Tbh i dont think I can clear it withowt borrowing support.

[fringe solstice]

well high dph is better so stuff that hits a lot is going to trigger the effect more often

ig it also depends on difficulty

[signal lichen]

was about to ask what difficutly

[daring vector]

Difficulty 3 is the highest i've cleared any ending

[signal lichen]

also blank note makes a solid difference

oh if this is just d3 well

saria should be able to heal enough

that with monster for sure

specter should be able to lane hold

texas really wants those s2 masteries for this map for more dps

this is a good bit limited though for is

your kinda just gambling to get all the pieces

[signal vector]

D3 should be a breeze, the only problem is surviving the onslaught when he gets mad lol

Like when he has that shield up and starts nuking the entire map

[signal lichen]

if you get saria monster specter it should be fine

[daring vector]

I tried placing her on the right lane but she died pretty quickly

[fringe solstice]

tbh it might be worth borrowing a starter like wisadel or trag to help out your squad, I find is2 annoying for building a squad compared to other IS

[signal vector]

Ye I usually just do tactical ranged squad with an e2 wis right off the bat and breeze through it

Bsl is 1 of the harder endings of IS2,
Playwright and lucian are way too easy compare to bsl or the other guy

[daring vector]

I guess i'll try a few times with Wisadel and see how it goes. By the way, elemental damage is good against the boss?

[fringe solstice]

you don't have a good sniper to draft which might make IS annoying

[signal lichen]

tragodia might be better really here

[daring vector]

Texalter is my best anti aerial unit 💀

[signal vector]

I guess?

Anything that has big numbers work on bsl cause he's a sponge

I guess not arts cause 60 res but 800 DEF isnt a lot

[void terrace]

It pisses me off soooooo much that radian delta mods only work In Is6???

Like come on at least let her delta mods work in other modes 😭😭

[signal lichen]

you get the stat increase

[signal vector]

You get the extra stats outside of IS6

[fringe solstice]

IS is a bit easier if you have several options to choose from each class but it depends on how you draft. You can forgo certain classes like caster or defender. But wisadel and trag for example can just carry.

[signal lichen]

same mind set

tragoida monster saria specter i think tanks bsl

at least for d3 yeah

[daring vector]

I was going to take Thorns from the 6* selector anyways so i guess this is an exuse to use the delta module 🤔

[fringe solstice]

wisadel can solo is3 with the survival contract

[signal vector]

Casters are a bunch of poopoos in IS bruh
I guess they're used in like IS3 for the last knight or IS5

But like no one wants to draft casters

I dont even draft logos unless the game just throws a bunch of extremely OP caster relics, then I might consider drafting logos

[fringe solstice]

I think they are more useful in is4 but I haven't gotten around to it yet

[signal lichen]

i take caster relics purely for rosmontis

basically i think i would take nymph as a solution for knight or it was a good solution in the past

but tragodia kinda just does it better

logos is solid still

and then like yeah idk

dusk is mid and thats being geneorus i think

[shell sentinel]

id honestly prefer lapp alter or goldenglow over logos alot of the time just cause they infinite range

[signal lichen]

lapp is good

[fringe solstice]

I sometimes take gg if I have good relics

[shell sentinel]

but now tragodia basically fills that niche unless its a ground is lava map with nowhere to deploy cat

[signal vector]

I take lappy and gg for the torchwood comp

[crisp bolt]

global range 🥀

[sweet path]

I have stupid question, just unlocked H16-1, where is it ?

[crisp bolt]

not out yet

week after chapter release

[sweet path]

oh

[signal vector]

Wait till thursday 🐧

[crisp bolt]

believe in that marcille sentinal strat :clueless:

[sweet path]

well i need to do other lvls on simulation ... without 6 stars chars ... XD

[signal lichen]

marcille sentinal 💀

[crisp bolt]

as funny as it sounds, it is actually a legimate strat

-# not optimal but usable

[azure roost]

[daring escarp]

Doing random shii with da ber

My e2 raidian ruined plan with e1s

So tmrw when chip farm stage changes to support I'll get e1 sand reckoner for 6 ops

And i have no quercus for the 5 ops e1 max no 6☆

[weak gazelle]

trag s1 with +aspd is a beast huh

now where and when the chances will appear

mantra + trag duo seem legit to abuse it often

[fallen ginkgo]

Anything I need to do before I do this shitshow?

My squad

[weak gazelle]

good brick i think to make it way easier

pick one from cardigan to hoshi1

[fallen ginkgo]

Is this good enough?

[plucky flint]

yes, and I'm pretty sure you won't be even deploying half of your squad, but hey more bodies the better

[fallen ginkgo]

Why

What's the strat in 16-12

[crisp bolt]

[fringe solstice]

If you are doing the defender + medic strat, I would recommend someone cheap like kroos or orchid to bait the bear so myrtle can generate dp

[fallen ginkgo]

I don't even know what to do there

[fringe solstice]

ig you can watch a guide but phase 1 bear seeks out units that have dealt damage to it, phase 2 bear throws rock at op that dealt the most damage

[crisp bolt]

bait bear and gen dp until you can setup your tank

[somber falcon]

just do the stage and see for yourself

[daring escarp]

https://youtu.be/n4b3K9EfhMw?si=sDxF3OgSIkDqRLg4 general strat on lowend

But hoshi1 maxed literally tanks every enraged hit anyway

[broken holly]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/rich-white-shu-5724

How to clear 16-16 CM with these ops I'm stuck at that stage for 2days

[broken holly]

Keep failing at second phase

[exotic grove]

not surprised, you have like two dps ops
you need to level your ela sakichan ascalon eyja surtr

proviso should be e2d and in a trading post too but that's not relevant to stage clear
anyway lemon alone cannot handle all the mobs her downtime is too long

sakichan is dead in the water until e2 mod2

monmon lacks the uptime to handle the mobs too, and shu and lappy aren't killing anything

[fallen ginkgo]

Can't u just constantly bind the boss with Ethan and quibai and then cheese it with tragodia s1?

[exotic grove]

they can't borrow both trag and qiubai at the same time

[hasty minnow]

leveling and mastery's all over the place

[fallen ginkgo]

I have tragodia just need a quibai

[hasty minnow]

you should update your krooster

[exotic grove]

who are you talking to?

[hasty minnow]

huh i thought that was the dude who asked for help

oh hes not 😭

[exotic grove]

idk who that is or why they're suggesting qiubai ethan for 16-16 adverse

[river atlas]

binding the boss in place sounds like a terrible idea anyway

[sly drift]

Why

You certainly need to CC the boss if you don't have that much of damage to immediately beat her.

[graceful fog]

heyy was told to ask here, how to improve roster for 16-12?

tried following a guide, but my cuora aint beefy enough :3, she dies before i can place down medics to heal

[craggy turret]

Biggest issue I see is early DP gen ngl

[graceful fog]

but DP generation would delay my healing/defender place down no?

[signal vector]

The bear is not immune to bind
Ines can create an economy 4 u if u place her down lol

[hasty minnow]

Nah you're delaying the bear to palce down the defenders and stuff in the first place

[craggy turret]

You don't need ulpianus and hoshi alter and cuora. I finished the stage with base hoshi but I had lumen, Mon3tr and Haruka to babysit

[signal vector]

All you need is a brick ye

[graceful fog]

ohhh okok ill try placing ines down first ty

[signal vector]

Sponges do not work against that thing XD

[craggy turret]

The opening of the stage is the hardest part ngl

[graceful fog]

ehhh i thought cuora for stalling, hoshi/upi for tanking the rock throw? :3

like a 2nd one just in case one dies idk

[signal vector]

How is it even possible for hoshi1 to die lol

[craggy turret]

The throw only gave me trouble with the extra extra challenges, it's survivable otherwise

[signal vector]

Sussuro alone should still be able to help hoshi1 survive

[graceful fog]

gotcha

[hasty minnow]

is this simu or just adverse, otherwise you would probably kill it before the throws really become a problem. pretty sure exu shield can also tank it

[graceful fog]

ok cheers, imma try ines

[graceful fog]

only adverse, no simulation haha

[craggy turret]

Here's what I used to clear challenge, just switch out yu for whatever brick you have

[river atlas]

think they mean hoshi alt

[signal vector]

You shouldnt be using hoshi alt for the bear

[craggy turret]

And for strategic

[signal vector]

I mean you can but that requires her to be max lv and have s1m3, and you need an aak to set hoshi alt up as well

[hasty minnow]

You can just definitely not the best choice considering they have cuora

[craggy turret]

Yu can tank challenge mode but not strategic, I used him in challenge for the faster kill

[crisp bolt]

wouldn't hoshialt survive if you use exualt s2?

[graceful fog]

ok uh what should be my healer placement priority?

[hasty minnow]

I didn't even use a defender for mine

[craggy turret]

His S3 makes him disgustingly tanky before he folds the second it's down

[limpid ore]

16-12? get someone with 700 def or something

[graceful fog]

my cuora straight up died with only monster healer

[pearl compass]

Cuora first, then any medic.

[craggy turret]

Ulpianus?

[graceful fog]

but yea tks for advice, ines helped get a medic down

[hasty minnow]

Nope dont have him

[craggy turret]

Yea, get like haruka, Mon3tr and one other healer

[crisp bolt]

I tanked with revolving door of rats

[graceful fog]

did u manage to place down myrtle and ines before cuora?

might need more dp to get more healers down

or i need to stall better idk

[limpid ore]

you have enough time to get 26 DP before the bear attacks the miners tbh

[crisp bolt]

especially with myrtle + ines

[limpid ore]

wihout a single vanguard

[river atlas]

U have shining why didnt you open with her..

Oh shes lvl 61

[graceful fog]

she does less atk than monster (at E1 lv 61)

[craggy turret]

Place Myrtle near the blue box and bait the bear back near the red box with Ines + another agent + vulpis before placing wan qing back near the blue box

[graceful fog]

cheers

[hidden axle]

Tragodia not at breakpoint

[craggy turret]

My OCD won't let me

[crisp bolt]

then lvl 90 him

[hasty minnow]

just do 90 at that point then

[craggy turret]

Then he'll be my only level 90

[limpid ore]

didnt the bear just ignore paralyze and lure?

[craggy turret]

Doesn't matter for this clear since he's S1 anyway

[crisp bolt]

bind :ya:

[hidden axle]

Bear dowsnt ignore lure, I used tragodia and dorothy to bully him

[craggy turret]

Didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, but just switch him out for arturia S1 if the bear does ig

[river atlas]

Only thing bear is immune to is sleep and fear

[elder flume]

the perpetual Nymph counter

[craggy turret]

Blemishine counter

Honestly had more trouble with 16-16 cuz of the map switch and the racist miner enemies

[elder flume]

80 dp leftover

truly the vanguard class

[azure roost]

[graceful fog]

tks yall, fk this bear im done

[fallen ginkgo]

No

It was for besr

16-22

12

Idk if it's possible to Perma bind the bear tho

[limpid ore]

the bear has 1000 base atk, inflict +100% dmg taken and attack multiple time
ulpianus has 0 def

[elder flume]

Trag needs S1M3 + E2 Mon3tr + Ange + Saileach for perma bind

Ethan can ig if you grind the seed

[azure roost]

when in doubt

just juggle the bear

[craggy turret]

Counterargument, he has biiiig HP pool

[azure roost]

so

juggle the bear

[fallen ginkgo]

Will hoshiguma + buttfuck of medics + whatever you have left work against 12-12?

[craggy turret]

Also semi Def with his healing talent

[limpid ore]

still dies fast
anyway

[azure roost]

hoshi1?

[elder flume]

me when i take atk buff and each attack is 3.9k x 2 on Ulpi

[fallen ginkgo]

Yeah max level

[azure roost]

s2 hoshi is enough

ye

just two medic

or one if u have m3

[limpid ore]

When dragging an "Infected Creature," the strength of the shift increases by 1 degree, and silences the target for 8 (+4) seconds

[fallen ginkgo]

My Haruka has m3 and warfarin but not e2?

[azure roost]

any medic that have high heal

is enough

first deploy hoshi

then medic

[limpid ore]

haruka alone is enough tbh

[azure roost]

then dps his balls

[fallen ginkgo]

I'm worried if bear will throw at medics while attacking hosh

[azure roost]

phase 2 same

nah

[river atlas]

He literally cant

Pls read the enemy descriptions

[azure roost]

wtf lucent alive

[limpid ore]

Throws a boulder at the friendly unit who has dealt the most cumulative damage to the Rampaging Abnormal Manglerbeast, dealing 150% ATK Physical damage and Stunning them for 10 seconds.

[fallen ginkgo]

Ok

I thought he throws it at farthest op

[river atlas]

Why is me being alive a surprise

[limpid ore]

assumption will go against you when fact is stated ingame

[azure roost]

[limpid ore]

[craggy turret]

I had vulpis behind hoshi for this exact reason

[limpid ore]

well, ofc if you use haruka, the bear can target her because the bubble pops deals damage

[craggy turret]

What about sourceless dng tho? I imagine thorns the lobster would be a pretty good counter if hoshi can tank the rocks?

[river atlas]

Whats actually unlisted info is.. u can silence the rock throw

Lv1 jaye using s1 turns the fight into full afk

[azure roost]

[craggy turret]

Welcome back lapp1

[limpid ore]

snowsant can silence the bear for the duration of s1 downtime

longer than both lappland

[fringe solstice]

The rock isn't too bad just need to stall out the attack buff for a while

[river atlas]

What downtime

[limpid ore]

the 7 sp cost of s1

she only applies silence when dragging

for 8 seconds

[craggy turret]

Odd that the game doesn't mention it tho, was that knowledge too powerful or did they genuinely forget to code that immunity in

[elder flume]

cant remember if she has puller bug
kina doubt it since i rarely see her bug

[river atlas]

Silence working on an ability has to be specifically tagged i think

So what was actual forgotten was the silenceable icon in the enemy description

Maybe

[limpid ore]

otherwise you can just permastun the bear

[elder flume]

theres only like 3 or 4 enemies that doesnt say silenceable in enemy desc but can iirc

[azure roost]

ngl silence mechanics is balls

[elder flume]

idt bear desc is wrong tho never saw ingame

[azure roost]

same for other ability on ops

[limpid ore]

the ingame isnt marked with silence-able

[river atlas]

Bear description doesnt have it marked

[craggy turret]

Idk maybe, but that also means they made stultifera navis fully known lappy made almost the entire event a cake walk

[elder flume]

hm another to the list ig

[river atlas]

anyway

[craggy turret]

Idk which is funnier tbh

[exotic grove]

lappy w

[elder flume]

Never showed how Ines stalled so uh heres modless
Cycle is a lot better with mod

[azure roost]

ok done all simuballstion @elder flume

h stage left

[fallen ginkgo]

Worried

About 12-12 bear in phase 2 throwing rocks

My plan is to stall him at phase 2 with hosh1hosh and Ethan with Haruka, but phase 2 bear might throw rocks at Haruka

Shiiiiiit

[prisma ledge]

Isn't this based on highest DPS unit or last deployed unit

[fallen ginkgo]

Pretty sure but I see in lots of videos where the bear throws rocks at random healers/buffers

[foggy grove]

rock throw is silencable

[fallen ginkgo]

I have no one to stun for silence the rock

[pearl compass]

Rock throw is most damaging to him unit.

[prisma ledge]

Apparently it is, I just read it lol

How does a healer deal the most damage

[fallen ginkgo]

Idk

Harmacist

[elder flume]

Inb4 Haruka

[limpid ore]

haruka s2 deals damage on healing

[elder flume]

Haruka deals damage in general

[prisma ledge]

Gotta find another operator to deal more damage than Haruka then

[fallen ginkgo]

Idk man I am very worried tho

[prisma ledge]

Wdym

[fallen ginkgo]

That I don't have anything to beat that bear

[azure roost]

when in doubt

[prisma ledge]

It's just Hoshi or high def unit

[azure roost]

juggle the bear

phase 2 is just splitboxxing

[elder flume]

Its really just a borrow Hoshi simulator

[limpid ore]

whenever an allied unit receives healing from Haruka, deals Arts damage equal to 200% of the amount healed to 3 nearby enemy target(s)

[prisma ledge]

Damn

[pearl compass]

Hoshi is now relevant. Yaaaaaay.

[limpid ore]

it's alot of damage

[prisma ledge]

Just outdmg Haruka then

[azure roost]

just borrow mr nothing

[pearl compass]

[azure roost]

[foggy grove]

just ditch haruka fr

[elder flume]

Hoshi has always been relevant for def tanking or rngknights
Just that people can optimize her out

[azure roost]

ngl the easiest is og hoshi then

juggle the boss

[prisma ledge]

Rngknights?

[elder flume]

Niche on using ops with chance based activity

[limpid ore]

haruka can do like 4.8k+ arts dmg per heal against 1 target

[prisma ledge]

Gambling time

[azure roost]

@elder flume https://youtu.be/7XiRVb0Qkt8
now u remind me of praying on hoshi s2 here

for this clear

[fallen ginkgo]

What does Mr nothing do?

[elder flume]

Permastun

Albeit needing -70 aspd from a certain redhead

[azure roost]

ofc you shoudl have exu cov

[fallen ginkgo]

If that's the case then I'll try

[pearl compass]

Nothing in vaccum, but with aid with his module and ExuAlt S2, can permastun the bear.

[fallen ginkgo]

If I can get a Mr nothing from su

[azure roost]

hello bgelafxo

[limpid ore]

or you use his s1

[pearl compass]

Don't forget his module Lv3!

[azure roost]

[limpid ore]

[azure roost]

and shyoni

[fallen ginkgo]

What does he actually do

[azure roost]

juggle ur balls

thats what he do

[fallen ginkgo]

Imma read his kit

[azure roost]

[elder flume]

So just have Warf S2 at all timed

[prisma ledge]

U got the ops and mods for that?

[pearl compass]

With ExuAlt S2 ASPD decrease, he attacks every 3.6 sec.

[limpid ore]

if he get attacked by the bear and survive, s1 should automatically activate

[azure roost]

ngl 16-12 have many ways to fuck up the cocaine bear

[limpid ore]

[fallen ginkgo]

I have exialt built

But idk about stalling

[elder flume]

He can still be hit during heal

[fallen ginkgo]

If I need Mr nothing I don't have hosh1hosh and if I hosh1hosh I don't have Mr nothing

[limpid ore]

consider snowsant s1 for phase 2 silencing

[azure roost]

ngl

just juggle cocaine bear boss

[fallen ginkgo]

Isn't boss immune to that or nah

[azure roost]

[fallen ginkgo]

Damn if that's so easy please handhold me

[limpid ore]

the rock throw is silence-able

[foggy grove]

you don't need hoshi if you use nothing

[prisma ledge]

[azure roost]

jay s1 is enough forbrock throw

[limpid ore]

and boss only immune to fear and sleep

[fallen ginkgo]

That's nice if It works for me

[prisma ledge]

How about

Just go have a try

[azure roost]

i would but mods gonna wsrn me

justbclear it yourself

[prisma ledge]

You also have Practice Papers anyway

[azure roost]

gl

[fallen ginkgo]

Isn't practicing useless now

Full sanity refund if you lose

[foggy grove]

it is

just go in and clear it

[odd forge]

I like frostleaf

[azure roost]

[odd forge]

Practice is dead, no purpose

They should remove it

[azure roost]

nah i use it when i have 0 san

so no

[fallen ginkgo]

Just use op

[odd forge]

Ah you're right

I see I see

[fallen ginkgo]

[daring escarp]

6 ops e1 max lets go

I should lvl up podenco to try 5 ops

[vivid rain]

Holy shit i’ve been playing simul ch16 with 4 stars and uh

The stage design is actually cancerous

[pearl compass]

16-12?

[daring escarp]

5 ops 16-12 e1 max no 6☆

Amiya needs some precision tbh lol

Since she can't hold entirely

She slowly loses hp there unless the debuff comes off

[exotic grove]

is ur amiyi maxed out

[daring escarp]

I think mine is yea

But no mod or masteries

[exotic grove]

that's not maxed out 😭

do you think those would help

[daring escarp]

Difference between e2lvl80 and e1lvl70 kinda yes

100 atk more and +1% hp regen per second

[exotic grove]

so your amiyi is lower upgrade than mine? can try borrowing sand reckoner and seeing if it works

[daring escarp]

Yes, i have no masteries on her

[fallen ginkgo]

Aight

I've seen that hoshi can tank all the bear's hits except for the boulder n because of stun I lose

How to counter the stun?

[elder flume]

wonder what the other 4 people said about silencing did

[fallen ginkgo]

Yeah m8 I don't have any of those

[primal tangle]

bait it

[elder flume]

Snow is guaranteed

[limpid ore]

snowsant

[fallen ginkgo]

Can it be baited while blocked?

[pearl compass]

You damage the bear strong enough to make him throw the rock to this dude instead.

Alternatively, you can silence this skill, or stun him on the moment he performs that special attack to completely cancel that.

[pearl compass]

Yes.

[fallen ginkgo]

I'll try this thx

I wish I picked project red rn instead of silence in free ticket mannnnnnn

[pearl compass]

[vital arrow]

gravel

exists

or are you trying to stun it

[pearl compass]

Nah, Kerf, rock goes to most damaging unit.

If defender deals most damage, bear still throws stone at him.

[vital arrow]

let me introduce you to this operator called bibeak

[fallen ginkgo]

Yes, hosh1hosh s2 essentially cheeses boss

I'll try it again with tragodia s1

[fallen ginkgo]

What she do?

[pearl compass]

S2 does Stun.

Fast charge the skill.

[vital arrow]

or like

borrow texalt

but texalt isnt frame 0 stun

[pearl compass]

TexasAlter S3 indeed cheeze that.

[pearl compass]

Red is.

[fallen ginkgo]

Can't borrow Texas alt when I have to borrow hosh1hosh for stall

[elder flume]

ive been playing 16-12 adverse2 for an hour
finally got the 3op Cuora Ines Silence clear :icant:

[vital arrow]

is this normal cocaine bear

[elder flume]

adverse2 no atk buff

[fallen ginkgo]

He snorted Originium oka instead

[vital arrow]

oh adverse2

cant they use like

cuora and stuff

so the bear doesnt stun the blocker

[limpid ore]

u-official stun

[vital arrow]

180s CD

[pearl compass]

Worth.

[fallen ginkgo]

Twitch bitch stuns?

[elder flume]

pretty much any 3 tile range ops work

[fallen ginkgo]

Didn't know that

[limpid ore]

actually, eunectus s2 with modX

[elder flume]

just run Hoshi S1

[pearl compass]

Anyway, you have Lappy?

[elder flume]

S2 does too much damage

[exotic grove]

wait does sand reckoner need levels or anything

[limpid ore]

18 seconds stun

[fallen ginkgo]

Alter? No? Borrow? Unless there's a stilling alternative

[pearl compass]

5☆

[fallen ginkgo]

Yes

Maxed

[vital arrow]

you know

lapp has silence right

a whole 5s silence

[daring escarp]

Only e1 for the s2

[vital arrow]

per attack

[pearl compass]

Well use her to silence the bear and cancel his rock throw completely.

[fallen ginkgo]

Use s1?

[exotic grove]

zamn bro eating my resources
thanks

[vital arrow]

its her talent

[pearl compass]

S2
Silence is her inner passive.

[vital arrow]

bro did you read her kit 😭

[exotic grove]

no way bro has e2lv80 m6 mod3 lappy and doesn't know what she does

[fallen ginkgo]

Haven't used her in years bro 😭

[vital arrow]

so when people said 4 ops that can silence

they didnt mention lappland at all?

[fallen ginkgo]

No

[vital arrow]

thats impossible

[fallen ginkgo]

Unless I'm blind, I swear no one mentioned laptop

[pearl compass]

[vital arrow]

proof or it didnt happen

[fallen ginkgo]

U can backread bro

Anyway I'm gonna read what silence does

I forgot

[pearl compass]

Disable special abilities (doesn't work for everyone).

[fallen ginkgo]

Ok wait

If this works it's insane

[pearl compass]

Kamikaze Spider won't blowup upon death.
Frost Drone will stop decrease attack speed.
Etc.

[fallen ginkgo]

Thank you all if this works, only if it works tho, if not then-thanks but 1/2

[vital arrow]

ok you just said "I dont have ops that can stun or silence"

[elder flume]

like 10 messages under you

[vital arrow]

[pearl compass]

Lappy

[exotic grove]

watch him put down lappy before she can hit the bear and she dies

[pearl compass]

[fallen ginkgo]

I fucking forgot about laptop because I haven't used her in years

Also tragodia s1 didn't work

Game is still running

Haven't tried lappland yet

[fallen ginkgo]

I'm blind then

What a cheese.

Hoshiguma to stall, lappland to silence, and then tragodia s1+gracebearer s2 for elemental dmg

Thanks

❤️ 🍪 🪨

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/j5A7q6M8prk?si=t4qyukt5ttKjg_kF

[daring escarp]

Bruteforce eww

Jk

[elder flume]

the least bruteforce moment

[daring escarp]

https://youtu.be/vPbe2BaySs4?si=AMMVXEdnBuPzWhl6

I will do it again after i get quercus

Or wait i can borrow

[viral ridge]

is 16-16 the hardest stage in this chapter? or is there more camouflage bullshittery right after

[lethal ferry]

16-16 is the worst it gets don’t worry

[viral ridge]

i cannot get past those triple clankers for the life of me

aoe damage + block 3 + the damn smokescreen is highkey so fucked

[lethal ferry]

If you kill the boss fast enough, the miners on the left side are enough to hold the mech forever

For the left side, bring as much arts dps as possible

And pray

[viral ridge]

is that like the right side junction? or even before then

[hidden axle]

Even with H stages I think it would be 16-16, cuz in H16-4 you have the bear too, and boss and bear attack each other

[lethal ferry]

Directly in front of the tunnel

[viral ridge]

all the way there???

is it even possible to get vision on that area

[lethal ferry]

The tunnel is were the miners come out of

[viral ridge]

wait huh

[lethal ferry]

They’re called hidden tunnels

[viral ridge]

yeah but

hm hold on

lemme find the phase 2 map

[viral ridge]

could you point the exact location of where i have to kill her?

[lethal ferry]

Wait

I made a typo

When I said the miners on the left side I meant the right side

[viral ridge]

noted okay

[lethal ferry]

What’s on screen now should work

[viral ridge]

but back to killing the boss so that the miners can hold off the robot

where should i kill the boss

oh this is a video guide that i still can't follow along

[lethal ferry]

I don’t know exactly but you need to kill the boss before it spawns butterflies on the right when the miners are blocking the mech

[viral ridge]

so like, in this area ish?

[lethal ferry]

Only like 5% of my time with this stage was in phase two

No

On the left of the tunnel

[viral ridge]

oh so like here

[lethal ferry]

What are you asking for exactly?

[daring escarp]

16-7 or 16-16

[viral ridge]

16-16

[daring escarp]

16-16 clearable with 4☆ and under with saki support

[viral ridge]

thank you for the fun fact

[viral ridge]

i wanna know where i gotta kill her for this

[lethal ferry]

Oh ok

For the boss anywhere before she starts to move up should work

[viral ridge]

move...up?

[lethal ferry]

I thought you were talking about the mech on the right

[viral ridge]

nono you mentioned killing the boss quickly so i wanna know how quick do i have to be

[daring escarp]

Like 12-20 second

Stats on yurodstvo are kinda low anyway

[viral ridge]

right so i need vision of her as well as be able to nuke her in that time

[lethal ferry]

Quickly in this is by five star standard now I realise

On my clear it took like 2 minutes is second phase

The sooner you kill her the better

[daring escarp]

But if you nuke fast enough you have time to redeploy before golems on left

[lethal ferry]

Yep

[viral ridge]

imma just come back in a week dawg i don't have the energy rn

[lethal ferry]

I was talking about this with another five star player yesterday so I kinda forgot people can use higher rarity operators, oops

[errant herald]

This hard? I'm doing challenge mode so I can get 2 ops per level xd

[hidden axle]

If you can read its quite easy

[elder flume]

what if i cant read

[hidden axle]

glhf

[pearl compass]

Can be cleared by only Cuora/Jaye, or Mr.Nothing/ExuAlt.

[wary onyx]

owls on wheels cook my team before haruka can set up her afk

[hidden axle]

Why does this stage look familiar is this pepe event stagr?

[wary onyx]

as s 2

[pearl compass]

Yes

AS-S-2

[wary onyx]

ass2 stage

[pearl compass]

Spawnkill them by Wisadel.

[wary onyx]

thanks, lemon worked just fine!

[pearl compass]

Or her.

[errant herald]

Damn hoshiguma got killed fast

Is it because I'm on challenge mode or

[hidden axle]

Show us your hoshi level

Iirc she can take 15 hits or so

Forgot if it was with e2 and mod, but even without them shouldnt die so fast

[limpid ore]

it's because her DEF is too low

[limpid ore]

take a guess

[errant herald]

Nah Its just her alter version tryna find a defender, can't find hoshi1 cause of many friends

[hidden axle]

Oh

[errant herald]

Oh yeah any other

[hidden axle]

E1 max cuora works

[limpid ore]

you need at least 700 DEF

[errant herald]

Oh

[pearl compass]

Wrong Hoshi.

[elder flume]

S1 moment

[limpid ore]

most protector defender with modX can easily goes to 1000 DEF

[errant herald]

E1 max cuora right?

[astral cosmos]

know who I have? Bison

please use my Bison 🥺

[errant herald]

Hm I see I see

[pearl compass]

E2... 🥹

[astral cosmos]

ReChord#9454

just use my bison!!!!!!!!!!

[pearl compass]

Rare Bison draft W

[elder flume]

E1 works if tanking offskill bear right

my strat runs E2 Ines so no E1 support in sight

[astral cosmos]

please use my goat!!!!! trust me he will work!!!!!!

[errant herald]

Alr

😭

[astral cosmos]

im expecting a 4 pages essay on why he is broken after you clear the stage

[limpid ore]

use his s2

[nocturne cove]

whT? is this true?

[limpid ore]

[nocturne cove]

how is my e2 cuora dying

[limpid ore]

medicless

[errant herald]

Done

[pearl compass]

Skill issue

[hidden axle]

Someone tried and said it does

[errant herald]

I'm the doctor

[hidden axle]

I used trag and doro

[nocturne cove]

maybe they used haruka and mon3

[astral cosmos]

added, gl

[elder flume]

youre supposed to tank offskill bear

[nocturne cove]

i mean im not arguing that

i used purestream and ptilopsis

she dies on rage mode

[elder flume]

i can try no mod ig

[nocturne cove]

oh mine was unmodded

[elder flume]

shouldnt matter much

[nocturne cove]

but not anymore

+15% def

[elder flume]

Ines stalls bear long enough both phases

[errant herald]

@astral cosmos ty big boy

[astral cosmos]

@wicked minnow bison shilling successful, return to HQ

[nocturne cove]

oh im looking at ops that can simply tank it

[astral cosmos]

bison is just such a peak operator

[elder flume]

Mountain in theory can solo clear surely

[errant herald]

Bear vs bear

Who would win

[tender orbit]

Oh wait darn

[lilac steppe]

hey, you guys have guide for "Beyond Mount and Sea"? i did it on very low level, but nervous with higher diff

[tender orbit]

The bear does not target Lunacub

[astral cosmos]

can jackie solo clear in theory

[tender orbit]

Unless she uses skill ofc

[errant herald]

Oh there's a secret ending for 16-13

How do I do this in one try ehehehhee

RECHORD

[hidden axle]

Its

[nocturne cove]

i heard he is very good from some maleknights player

[hidden axle]

Ez

Trust

For secret ending just let a miner enter blue box

Mantra also helps you out btw

Free mantra

[elder flume]

Modless cant afk

Need constant drone

[nocturne cove]

https://youtu.be/ezxT_8khxGo?si=1oP-vnNiQ7j9lOpR

[errant herald]

Fr?

🤑

[tranquil roost]

Anyone got any tips for Gavials Fist RI-8?

[hidden axle]

Slide roster

Roster-less tip is to simply not struggle
Unless you are a newbie
Cuz that sidestory is too old to be a problem for modern ops

[tranquil roost]

I'm relatively new. About 3 weeks of playing

[hidden axle]

.

3 weeks is newbie enough dw

[pearl compass]

All secret cutscenes will open upon ending a chapter and you don't need to do anything special.

Like for real.

[tranquil roost]

I just wanna obtain Tomimis Letter 🙁

[pearl compass]

Finish 16-19 and you will collect all 4 Secret Cutscenes immediately.

[nocturne cove]

oh btw

did you still stall his rage mode?

[elder flume]

ye

[pearl compass]

You just spawnkill the boss with Surtr.

[errant herald]

Oh k

I was wondering

[pearl compass]

And if possible, try to delay the parrot as much as possible.

[elder flume]

Cuora always have skill when it matters

[errant herald]

Why I didn't get the ending

Grrr

Or what

[tranquil roost]

I dont have them

[errant herald]

Ok any special here

[pearl compass]

Your religion doesn't allow you to use SupportUnit or what?

[tranquil roost]

I'm new Idk what that meant T-T

[errant herald]

Ah thus

Per level

[pearl compass]

Orange Headphones slot above "Mission Start" button.

[errant herald]

I can borrow a support unit

The 13th slot basically

[hidden axle]

Which stage is that again

[errant herald]

Who u replying to?

[hidden axle]

Asking cuz 16-15 is a story farm stage you would rather not use support for that

You

[errant herald]

[tranquil roost]

I mean I didn't use a support for every level up too gavials fist so I guess using that would help

[errant herald]

Is 13-14 like have any special on the level or nah

[lusty elm]

What do you mean "special" ?

[errant herald]

Lik any gimmicks

[azure roost]

special?

[lusty elm]

just the Altar to blow up

[errant herald]

I see

Well I'ma do it a in a bit

[lusty elm]

But like instead of asking, just do a practice run and you'll see what the level is like

[azure roost]

very nice acc honestly

[errant herald]

Hmmmmmm

[azure roost]

thats jusr ri 8

you can just burst the boss with ms jk herself

[lusty elm]

Yeah Big Ugly Thing isn't much of a threat nowadays.

[glass monolith]

Proceeds to leak stupid bird during infinite stun duration

[nocturne cove]

oh when the bear is on yello w bar cuora cant tank but afterwards without mod works

i was trying to tank rage mode

[pearl compass]

Phase 2 Rage has increased ATK.

Good luck.

[elder flume]

Cuora mod doesnt even proc unless you helidrop

[maiden hound]

ri8? raidian solos it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also its wrong guy, not guy with that squad