strategy

[fresh gazelle]

oh, how did you approach it?

[snow juniper]

The map is laid out in a way such that you can make him run around a ton using cheap ranged units, while your heavy hitters pelt him from afar

[fresh gazelle]

when I did regular adverse with laterano only, I used miksaparato to block until I dealt enough DPS
and the snipers and geeks to stall phase 1 out

laterano has enough DPS to take down the bear before it kills miksa... unenraged

[fresh gazelle]

that doesn't really work for phase 2, though

[snow juniper]

If you take 1-2 executors as well to stall him every now and then, he gets really really slow walking between everything. Just throw all the bind you have at him, like Ethan s2 and he basically can't move for phase 1

[exotic grove]

or you could just run a handful of low level decel binders and stall it out

[hidden axle]

If yoy have e2 lapp can also silence the rock

[fresh gazelle]

in the end, I just banned snipers and used geeks and trapmasters instead, lol

[snow juniper]

For phase 2 any combination of decent DPS ops can just burst him down before he really does anything, assuming you did all the damage you can during phase 1

[fresh gazelle]

damage? during phase 1?

preposterous

well, okay, I managed that in the level 0 adverse

but not level 2

[snow juniper]

When his timer runs out and he tries to leave, he's still stallable

[fresh gazelle]

oh
you can keep shooting and distracting him?
neat

[snow juniper]

no he won't attack your guys anymore, but ops like decel binders and Ethan will still stop him in his tracks

[plucky flint]

until 20%/40%(strategic sim)

[snow juniper]

yup

[exotic grove]

similar teams clap ss2 bear if played correctly

[hidden axle]

Gavial usage

[fresh gazelle]

oh

laterano doesn't have any of those

[elder flume]

Now add bear atk buff

[fresh gazelle]

I did, however, abandon laterano for my level 2 clear

[exotic grove]

why would I choose buffs that make me lose

[snow juniper]

Are you doing a laterano challenge?

[hidden axle]

Shrimply dont use defender and pick atk buff and defender ban

[full terrace]

Woh I love my friends, I'm only logging in once every 24 hours and they are still giving me Clues, to someone with Last Online status labeled "Yesterday" on it

[exotic grove]

goated friends for goated creators

[hidden axle]

My friends give me enough clues to have 3 clue exchanges b2b

Smh hard for me to repay

[snow juniper]

i picked health% buff and defender ban mainly bc I thought the atk buff just generally gets annoying no matter what; my thought process was "I can handle more time on phase 2, but I'm not sure what weird interaction change the atk buff could bring"

[plucky flint]

my friends give me clue 7 enough for a whole month

[hidden axle]

Atk buff brings it upto 1700 atk iirc

[hidden axle]

They forgot clue 6

[exotic grove]

clue 6 7?

[plucky flint]

ain't gonna claim all of that

[fresh gazelle]

I just generally like to start each even doing laterano operators only

someone better at the game than me would probably not just start each event, but also END them, laterano only

it.
includes exusiai.

but since I am not willing to figure out exu S3, that will not be me

[plucky flint]

ss2 you'll gonna be defenderless for that

[fresh gazelle]

I hear S3 generates DP...

[exotic grove]

exialt s3 dp gen is a meme lmfao

like haha I redeployed op and retreated them I got dp xddddd

[fresh gazelle]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[plucky flint]

can be viable strat for some stupid scenario still

[elder flume]

3k

[fresh gazelle]

okay
I never really thought about it

[plucky flint]

but exu2 don't print dp btw

[fresh gazelle]

but anyway, yeah, I have literally every laterano operator, so why not have a lateran-only squad?

(the niche also happens to contain MOST of my favorite operators)

[plucky flint]

are you doing SS or just adverse

[fresh gazelle]

well, I managed to get all the way to 16-15 on adverse, and 16-11 on SS

[elder flume]

1000 x 1.2 x 1.2 x 1.2 x 1.5 x 2

[exotic grove]

can nian survive this

[fresh gazelle]

unfortunately, those stages walled me
along with all the subsequent stages

[plucky flint]

that doesn't look like 3k

[elder flume]

If Myrtle can surely

[exotic grove]

is that myrtle sitting on haruka shoulders or what

[hidden axle]

I meant base attack stat

[elder flume]

Myrtle on Shu Shining Haruka Vina Bryo Stainless

[exotic grove]

literally

[elder flume]

Base attack would then be 1000 no

1000 base
1.2x adverse0
1.2x adverse1
1.2x adverse2
1.5x atk buff
2x damage debuff

[hidden axle]

Its with atk buff

[elder flume]

Thonk
Leme try killing Ulpi

[plucky flint]

the challenge should be "lemme make ulpi survive"

[hidden axle]

I was speaking from memory and not from math but base attack is 1200 for adverse iirc, atk buff brings it to 1700 or sth, if isnt 1700 my memory isnt memory-ing

[elder flume]

Because 1000 x 1.2x adverse0

[hidden axle]

[river atlas]

Wiki claims it has 1950 w atk buff selected, idk how accurate it is

[elder flume]

oh each score is only +10% atk

+20% is for hp

sadge

ye 1000 x 1.3 x 1.5

then x2 damage debuff

[exotic grove]

@daring escarp which op solos 16-17 ss2?
trying with wis but not working

[elder flume]

any

[daring escarp]

Waiting before cutscene ends

[elder flume]

just dont touch the game

[exotic grove]

?

[elder flume]

the timer goes down while dialogue plays

[exotic grove]

no fucking way

[wary onyx]

is it intentional

or unintentional

[elder flume]

its not the first time combat resumes while dialogue

think theres alr like 3-4 iterations now

[hasty minnow]

yeah they intentionally made it so you can yap to victory

[plucky flint]

from what the stage looks like, doesn't seem intentional ngl

[daring escarp]

[wary onyx]

? why not

even on ss2 its quite easy

[plucky flint]

you won't see shits happening if you don't tap dialogues

for the lore ofc

[vague summit]

What levels, masteries, and modules?

[foggy grove]

saria mod y 1,s1m1
saki mod 3 s3m3 the rest don't matter

prolly the onky thing that matter here is saria module to lessen the healing burden

[weak gazelle]

hmm
p2 require boss dead top right, let see if i can do that or nah

seem like i need ceobe with mod :icant:

[loud bluff]

Can anyone offer tips for 16-16?

I'm tearing my hair out over how frustrating it is with the damage reflection slugs and long range invisible mortars

[daring escarp]

Yea you can kill top right so you have enough rdp time for the left side

[daring escarp]

You only need aoe healer for the topside with slugs since they get no armor with the miners

Invis mortars are too late so you can setup healer before them

[cloud lodge]

Should I use a push/pull operator at the lower side instead?

[daring escarp]

No shit but s1 logos better

Since they all hitcount based

And low hp

[cloud lodge]

Alright

I forgot his s1 , I feel dumb

[daring escarp]

Just force exit arknights

So you don't waste sanity

[azure roost]

@wicked minnow yep alt acc done

[plucky flint]

am I blind or I'm not seeing Ethan here

[azure roost]

who is ethan

[plucky flint]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-bye-peace-see-ya-g2g-gif-5181030

[weak gazelle]

yeap as expected (kill it at top right), ez clap
well not bad for ~40 step strat :ya:

[azure roost]

nightmare pog

s1 mare?

oh i saw the skill button

so ye

[weak gazelle]

yeah lol

my fail safe when things go wrong mid battle

[azure roost]

kek

[weak gazelle]

a good excercise

[azure roost]

on my alt i just do random bullshit ops

to clear chp16

[daring escarp]

Looks like hoe to me

[barren crescent]

Guys idk why but im struggling to kill 400 enemies in lungmen downtown with this team is there someone i should bring instead of nukers

[fierce narwhal]

It took you This long to do lungmen downtown?

That or you’re memeing

[cloud lodge]

I haven't built him yet but where should I position Ethan?

[sly drift]

This team is unplayable. You have to wait for Wang.

[azure roost]

huh wtf

[plucky flint]

he can be e0 just use s1. place him the last in ur ops, he can deal with those hit count mobs

[cedar hound]

Where dragslayer when you need him

[plucky flint]

can place him beside Myrtle

[barren crescent]

I wish i was

Like one kept on escaping and idk why

[plucky flint]

must've been the wind

[barren crescent]

What

[plucky flint]

nvm that, you really don't know what's leaking or anything?

[barren crescent]

It was like an invisible caster iirc

The ones at the bottom lane

[azure roost]

[barren crescent]

I know im bad

[azure roost]

how did you even leak at that point

[plucky flint]

where are you using Ines after u deploy ur squad

[barren crescent]

The bottom lane

[plucky flint]

I know this sounds a bait but I'm willing to bite it

[azure roost]

redo it

[barren crescent]

To de-invisible the invisible casters

Ok

[plucky flint]

Holy fuck how are you leaking when Ines is there

[barren crescent]

Ok guys let me do it one more time

[azure roost]

redo it

@plucky flint anni 3 still hitting players every year

[plucky flint]

I mean, looking at his squad he can clap all annis with ease

[barren crescent]

Will there be any ranged attackers in the top lane?

[azure roost]

ye

[plucky flint]

Just drone iirc

[azure roost]

[plucky flint]

well, ballista

[barren crescent]

Fuck i just realized i couldve used ines s3 and then just place sakiko there

[elder flume]

But wheres your dp gen from

[barren crescent]

Myrtle

[elder flume]

13th op ?

Sure

[plucky flint]

I can just shut my eyes and pick one of those guards to be removed and add another vg tbh

[barren crescent]

No i mean i have her in my team rn so its still 12

YEEEES

Didnt know it was a while ago

Mb guys

[daring escarp]

I literally did it with 3☆ squad than that

[barren crescent]

What

[daring escarp]

The only problem is the flying fuck

[barren crescent]

lol

[daring escarp]

[thick sphinx]

[azure roost]

just do the deployment order to bait attack

then let the ranged unit kill it

ezez

[glass monolith]

Enemy don't kill you when they are killed, unless it is EB and other dozen of F you on death/HP threshold bosses

[dark violet]

16-16 sim was pretty tough. Had to bring back my gravel NTR shock troops

They don't really give you a choice though

the fortbreaker spam is just impossible to handle

thankfully gravel handles the boss buff quite easily

[sly drift]

"Impossible" is too exaggerated

[dark violet]

for my strategy I guess yeah

I used that squad

[sly drift]

You just lack of "3 blocks" aren't you

[woven creek]

how do you guys make your generalist teams, teams you take while you are just doing story for example

[dark violet]

what for?

[dark violet]

A good team that can handle most cases

flexibility is key

[azure roost]

just choose the other side

[limpid ore]

you can just 4 ops it

[sly drift]

MkII?

[elder flume]

I just make new teams each stage

[dark violet]

other side of?

[woven creek]

yeah but you don't know the stage before going into it no? do you do so just for fun?

[limpid ore]

sim condition

[dark violet]

wym, the other side is way worse

[sly drift]

Generalist only works in easy to moderate difficulty anyway.
Unless you play sum all meta shits.
You need to adjust here and there every difficult stage.

[limpid ore]

there is map preview

on stage selection

[elder flume]

I watch vids of the stages to figure out enemy spawn timing and imagine what op could counter

[limpid ore]

there is also, map-arknight

[broken idol]

Or just play, figure out who the enemy is and plan again

[daring escarp]

Dont need it

[dark violet]

depends, I've been using that main team for 95% of the content, and the rest only requires a handful of changes for specific hard stages

[woven creek]

ı just realized ı have never touched the preview button on stages

[limpid ore]

it's mostly ulpianus and his buffers

[daring escarp]

Put meta ops, think of unit that can fulfill the role thats very weak

[dark violet]

ulpian wasn't there for most of that team's runtime

[south bone]

bruteforcing always works

[sly drift]

"So true homie"
(Proceed to pull something like this boring shit)

[sour sable]

ehem

[limpid ore]

and yet he can just solo most of ground problem

[dark violet]

ok

[woven creek]

this is what ı have been using before ı took a break and came back like 2 days ago

[dark violet]

ifrit should not be in a main squad

[daring escarp]

No meta but its fine ig

Squad from 2022

[south bone]

2022 chong

[woven creek]

ı manifested him that early

[woven creek]

that's fair

[azure roost]

its just fortbreaker

[sly drift]

Without proper braining you might struggle on EP16. I can see it

[azure roost]

[dark violet]

meh, the boss was easier to kill

[woven creek]

ı am on ep5

[sly drift]

On Ep5 you just ballin with that

[dark violet]

you could clear with solo ling

[broken idol]

Probably only 16-12, 16 and 17 would need brain + brute force

[daring escarp]

Cope

[azure roost]

just do bs on ep5

[daring escarp]

Ling can't block

Nor dps out

[woven creek]

ı do have a ling but ı don't really like the solo gameplay ı want to use as many of my units as possible

[limpid ore]

16-17 you just wait 7 minutes on the miners dialogue and you win

[azure roost]

hello shiyoj

[south bone]

ok but where's the fun

[broken idol]

Yeah, that’s in case you want to do that lmao

[daring escarp]

By skipping fight

[south bone]

well that ain't fun

[broken idol]

There’s no fun being bullied in those waves tho

[sly drift]

Anyway overall EP15 is harder don't you think?

[limpid ore]

[south bone]

but it's still a strategy so

[daring escarp]

Booo not going for pacifist

[azure roost]

what ep15 again?

[dark violet]

was it? We have the h stages left

[daring escarp]

100%

[azure roost]

h stage chp16 is funny

[limpid ore]

your wive killed your cat

[azure roost]

just yu

[south bone]

your honor it was self defense

[azure roost]

[daring escarp]

Booo

[sly drift]

EP15 dps check is ABSURD

[dark violet]

wait, wasn't ep15 the rhodes bot fight?

[azure roost]

let the bear mowed on the boss

on h16

[dark violet]

Wasn't it a joke fight

[azure roost]

[south bone]

ch 15 is harder yeah

[dark violet]

ceobe crushed it almost solo

[limpid ore]

afk clear

[daring escarp]

Boss vs da ber

[south bone]

messing with UI too and shi

[azure roost]

boss get mauled by crack bear

[broken idol]

That was only the boss stage 😭

[south bone]

not really

ok maybe not ui idk

[woven creek]

how annoying does rosa's weird range get?

[daring escarp]

Also im thinking of ways how to do lower ops low rarity for the bear(e1 or lower)

[dark violet]

yeah no ep15 was quite easy

[azure roost]

ep15 is new beginning of chapter

so its should be easy

[daring escarp]

Only bosses and hell stages are hard for the ch15

[azure roost]

where deepcolor abuse

[daring escarp]

So much arts for the golems bruh

[broken idol]

Same with the rest of chapters

[dark violet]

but ceobe destroyed that

[daring escarp]

Deepcolor aint doing shi

[azure roost]

[daring escarp]

[azure roost]

ngl im lazy to do simulation

i only did 16-16 and 16-12

and 16-7

[daring escarp]

I think i can do 7 ops if i raise my gavial and podenco

[azure roost]

[daring escarp]

[azure roost]

@daring escarp i think i didnt rven touch cn h16

im too lazy to do it

[broken idol]

But but… event store

[azure roost]

its jsut mats

i can farm 300 of it

[broken idol]

[daring escarp]

Bear is 8 ops low rarity. 16-16 is possible by sakiko and 3☆ and lower

[limpid ore]

it also has sanity potion

[daring escarp]

[limpid ore]

[azure roost]

well you can buy it at first

plus its enough to buy store by farmign anyway

[sly drift]

If ppl say EP15 was easy then EP 16 is definitely easier.
No main story is "Hard" by this standard

[broken idol]

Just wisadel/surtr it basically

[daring escarp]

True

[south bone]

the hardest chapter is still ch 0

[broken idol]

Feeling like side stories are harder than main

[azure roost]

@daring escarp see i didnt do it

ngl with these ops i can brainrot it but eh im lazy

[broken idol]

Man, I wish I was here during the So long Adele event, those sheeps were so fucking funny

[azure roost]

u cna ignore e0

[daring escarp]

Meh, i think the stage with tons of black shards is

[azure roost]

im lazy to raise unit too

[azure roost]

kek even 16-16 didnt have simulator cleared

[broken idol]

Who wouldn’t having such roster

[azure roost]

wizard kek

when they touch pink cloud tile

[sly drift]

Fraud account

[azure roost]

missed some limited

got shit luck there on collab limited and limited

no ela

no ya2

[dark violet]

ok I don't use guides

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/i79IlEHqgaU?si=9PA5uoZRfq2x1Ks5

[daring escarp]

Wis can solo

[daring escarp]

But i do

[dark violet]

ok

[azure roost]

[sly drift]

Weak

[weak gazelle]

this is stupid, imagine the strat is necrass summon spawn rng :icant:

fuck it, i will just stomp this shit
its not even funny when no dp regen

[azure roost]

lol

[daring escarp]

Not weak it means im lazy to figure out with my half of the team being year 1 ops to bruteforce

[sly drift]

Weak and lazy then

[daring escarp]

Its called inspiration

[sly drift]

Having no tier zero is not an issue. Not an excuse

[sly drift]

What?

[hidden axle]

Abuse bg timer when

[plucky flint]

does mostima even do any shits while not deployed?

[glass monolith]

Aura farming

[heavy mason]

I’m trying to do annihilation downtown and this is my setup. My main issue is leaking drones especially bombtails and arts drones at the lower left

[pearl compass]

Click cannot prio the drones, so she stuck hitting other troops. Substitute to any other Marksman, like Kroos 3☆.

[heavy mason]

Aight gotcha thx!

[weak gazelle]

because i need to borrow eblana

[weak gazelle]

what bg timer?

[hidden axle]

Timer runs in bg when dialogue runs

[weak gazelle]

ohh didnt know that

lol

[hidden axle]

Cant fulfill ending criteria like that thi

End dialogue a min or so before

[elder flume]

Is 1 mn enough time to break rock

Dialogue stall is only for adverse2 ideally

[weak gazelle]

that kinda stupidly good but i cant unlock secret ending that way

if middle tile are accesible from start, i win

[hidden axle]

Its a rough estimate really

[weak gazelle]

oh right, by beating adverse2 still able to unlock secret ending?

[azure roost]

[azure roost]

honestly i cant remmeber what my current anni 3 seutp now

[elder flume]

Pretty sure adverse2 fails

I havent done 16 17 so i can test ig

Losing 24 san hm

[rustic eagle]

Im sorry if this isn’t the right place to ask, I got the game recently and was wondering if there was a big pdf guide that kind of explained the mechanics in the game, I would like to have all information I can so I can make informed enough decisions on what I do now

So, is there anything like that👀 ?

[azure roost]

[azure roost]

ye

[rustic eagle]

More so towards progression stuff, resources, all the things you can do, I see so many options and I would like to know what each of them are yk

[azure roost]

i just claim stuff to open it

[somber falcon]

Archive on bottom left of main menu > tutorials

Otherwise just read the pins on #help

[azure roost]

pro do my h16-3

[somber falcon]

Oh h stages are open already?

[azure roost]

no

[glass monolith]

He is fighting H16 in his schizophrenia realm

[daring escarp]

Its called inspiration dumbass

[scarlet fulcrum]

U meant simulation? No

[full fractal]

if theres an enemy in an operators range but stainless turret is also there and stainless turret is closer to blue box than the enemy will the operator target the enemy or stainless turret

[scarlet fulcrum]

It has -2 taunt so

[full fractal]

is taunt the same as aggression?

[crisp bolt]

Yes

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea its aggro, but -2

[full fractal]

thanks

[left night]

Does ethan works on the bear?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yes

[left night]

Will the bear ignore him on phase 2?

[scarlet fulcrum]

only when bear on prio checkpoint, and changing phase ig

[left night]

(Also for some reason I can still see the bear throwing rock after silenced by lappland)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Lapp need e2 or e1 p5

U can also use jaye s1

[elder flume]

bear has 1.3 range
if they can hit an op they will

[left night]

His range is too short

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

[left night]

Wait what

I have no more resource to e2 anyone atm

[elder flume]

Lapp has 1.2s atk interval
silence lasts 1s
what do you do for the other 0.2s

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can also just bait with sponge

[elder flume]

that sponge better be a dps tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

With high atk

Yea luckily base slave

[left night]

I can only think of gravel, but I also need her to stall the boss enraged attack

Phase 2 enraged state feels like it last indefinitely long

[elder flume]

its shorter than phase 1 no

or ig its because he just moves slower

[left night]

Phase 1 at least I can use ranged slow supporter to stall

Phase 2 he just keep moving forward

[plucky flint]

Chad bear

[elder flume]

it locked in

[left night]

Wait can I kill him at the end of phase 1?

[plucky flint]

nope

[elder flume]

invuln at 20/40% hp

[plucky flint]

20%/40% with ss

[elder flume]

traditional strat is just borrow Hoshi

[left night]

Does Hoshi still get stunned by the rock?

[elder flume]

any op that doesnt have immunity does

as long as you have a slower while Hoshi is blocking will keep it in check

[left night]

Can she stall phase 2 enraged state?

[elder flume]

adverse0 sure
adverse2 no atk buff is okay

[plucky flint]

bear throw rocks on who deals the most dmg to it, surely it won't be Hoshi so no need to be concerned

[elder flume]

its pretty high chance its Hoshi especially if S2 user after the other dps dies

[scarlet fulcrum]

Gravel has low atk, not her

[elder flume]

Gravel is okay to bait phase 1 if you have Mlynar since it will make bear run to Mlynar

[plucky flint]

I think kroos can outdmg Hoshi in that situation

[scarlet fulcrum]

Jaye surely

[elder flume]

this is Cuora Haruka for adverse0

rock throw at Haruka

[plucky flint]

bear dealing 130 dmg to cuora?

[scarlet fulcrum]

What is adverse 0? Simulation without parameter?

[elder flume]

as long as you break 1100 def its fine

adverse0 is what i call when you turn into adverse mode before simulation

ig simulation is better to call adverse0 hm

[scarlet fulcrum]

So its adverse

[elder flume]

ye

adverse1 adverse2 are the risks

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp fair

[daring escarp]

Yep

Or maybe the same

Kinda close

I think its kinda shorter since bear doesn't come straight at you

But its the same range

[daring escarp]

Or effecr resistance

So stun is shortened by half

[plucky flint]

phase 1 is 2 mins, phase 2 is 1 min

phase 2 looks like kinda longer cuz he just locked in and doesn't give a fuck about anyone who's not blocking him

[daring escarp]

Except he can still hit

That damn cocaine in the bear

[plucky flint]

I want to see this boss in the gambling event

[elder flume]

Think i can just hyperfarm pulls now

[left night]

Finally beat it
Turn out the solution is... slow him down during his walk lol

Also ethan no module hit 3 binds in total 💀

[celest vine]

finally, bear gone, thanks to that random guy from support unit with cuora sl7 mod 2

[leaden sierra]

Is it normal that the game just gave up on spawning enemies?

[elder flume]

same as normal stages

theyre all timed

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yes, the bar tell u

They all the waves on that stage

[leaden sierra]

Ahhh, scripted... gotcha

[elder flume]

only enemy cap is from the spawner blocks

[glass monolith]

Bro was killing them so fast game quit

[celest vine]

medic gaming on Sim Strat

(i use raidian s3 to stall the bear at the beginning to prepare everyone)

[sand cape]

insert
is this a [surtr hospital]?
meme

[glass monolith]

16-17 timer ticks down during dialog on stage start. game of the year

[exotic grove]

you can clear the stage that way

[void terrace]

WAIT STAINLESS TURRETS CAN BE INFLICTED WITH PARALISIS FROM MANTRA????

[lime lantern]

yeah

i wonder if mon3tr s1 works

[void terrace]

Wait why

The thingy isn't an enemy tho

[lime lantern]

true my friends are lying to me

[void terrace]

What about ente

[lime lantern]

what about ente

😭

[void terrace]

Her blood candles

Idk if they will be immune to the paralysis too

[lime lantern]

"heart candles are only affected by entelechia's attacks"

i assume allies wont target it but i haven't tested

[fringe solstice]

Finally got around to doing the stage instead of farming red certs

[void terrace]

Wait actually can mudrock tank the bear

With s2

Her s2 can stun

[celest vine]

the fact that i used surtr there

[celest vine]

idk but in my case, she doesnt work, i havent discover a way to use her

[plucky flint]

damn, I'm seeing exu1 usage

[celest vine]

most year 1 ops shown great usage here, especially og hoshi s2

[fringe solstice]

This is my sim 2 clear so unfortunately it is the specialist exu

[plucky flint]

wait that's exu2?

sorry k-san

[fringe solstice]

it's okay

I used this for the adverse clear

blue box gaming

[red cosmos]

I need ED4 handheld

Thx

[daring escarp]

Nah

[daring escarp]

Yes, she has absurd dps on low def-

Almost 6k on bear

[fringe solstice]

I haven't tried the new expansion yet, but the wiki is good for knowing what you need for the ending. https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Sui's_Garden_of_Grotesqueries#Endings

[maiden sand]

Monster can tank the bear since it is in the storyplot, but monster straightaway die.

[hollow turtle]

what is this bs 🥹

its giving the exu2 event

[hollow turtle]

any warning tips yall?

[river atlas]

More medics

[hollow turtle]

pain 💔

[river atlas]

Killing the enemies is easy, keeping the miners alive so u can even target the enemies is less easy

[hollow turtle]

omg that is true..

idk how, but I did it

first try chat

s1 leizi2 seems rlly nice in ch16

[exotic grove]

@open tangle you still stuck on 2-2?

[void terrace]

Damn

Mantra is so weird in IS

Like if you get her with tragodia she scales insanely well with relics and can nuke stuff even single target

But otherwise she's just ass

I mean when paired with leizi alter or someone with quick skill activations she doesn't necessarily need trag and can sort of act as an elemental nuke bomb

[azure gulch]

Can someone rate my team (WIP)

[hollow turtle]

remove texas

[azure gulch]

Yeah that's fair😭 I only had them as a placeholder Vanguard as I'm lacking them

[hollow turtle]

also u should be using myrtle's s1 not s2

[hollow turtle]

and s2 haruka > s3

[azure gulch]

Good to know 👀

Thanks man

[hollow turtle]

ofc ofc

[daring escarp]

Haruka s2, thorns mod1, myrtle s1, mantra requires her e2, pozy does nothing here, gravel needs e1 and higher skill lvl

[errant herald]

Just finished the watery tidehollow frozen abandoned city and south prison

Are the others easy or hard

[daring escarp]

Def harder than those you cleared

[errant herald]

Fuck

[daring escarp]

Its literally the 3 ones that were by 2 lvls lower than others annis

[errant herald]

I don't get it

[daring escarp]

Imagine a cat and a dog

You were fighting cats

[errant herald]

Still don't get it

[daring escarp]

Strength of both of them

So cats are easier than dogs

[errant herald]

Still don't get i-

[fringe solstice]

lingering shangshu trails and ashy marsh are probably the hardest

the rest are elite enemy spam

[errant herald]

Am I cooked

I need the orundums

RAGHHH

[fringe solstice]

shangshu trails has the waregeist enemies(defeated by number of hits) and ashy marsh has reed event enemies with elbana boss

just borrow ascalon for shangshu trails and eyja2 for ashy marsh

[leaden sierra]

Will they still get the 0.33 from ptilo passive while on this tile? I can imagine this being good for S1 lappy alter or Nara.
(Obviously the power station combo is also good).

[foggy grove]

shouldn't be

but you can get lapalt and nara s1 up first before upgrading it to outpost

[plucky flint]

offrec is winning

[elder flume]

Theyre -999 sp/s iirc

So uh that Ptilo better have a way to cover the other -998. 66

[azure roost]

[nocturne cove]

@lime lantern wtf you pulled

[lime lantern]

what

i pulled what

Mantra?

[nocturne cove]

isnt it obvious, yeah

[lime lantern]

yes

im her #1 fan

downloaded game for her and shu

[nocturne cove]

but mantra wasnt there when you installed

🤨

[lime lantern]

i saw her splash from cn news

and said yeah i need that

and then later on i made a cn account and got her there too

[nocturne cove]

dang, a real grandma enjoyer

[lime lantern]

the genz slang has it down to a t
she has aura

[lime lantern]

what is this for

wtf

marcille

[elder flume]

@vital arrow not spinner but its almost close to fast enough hits
a lot of the damage Gummy takes only procs 1 burst
an extra burst when Haruka does normal attack

this was my old Haruka solo dps attempts
just had it shelved since it leaked so eh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ashy marsh fairly decent there, but doable just fine with those ops. But like they're fairly easy with nowadays carry

[prisma rover]

LS-5 is some bullshit huh

[hidden axle]

Is this hcm ls-5?

[prisma rover]

exp stage

[hidden axle]

Slide roster

[pearl compass]

Matrix stage is LS-4.

[hidden axle]

I need to do hcm stages ngl

I thought even r15 wad for stacked accounts until I heard othetwise (including 5 star onky clears)

And well now I did get my hands on mera up-to-date units

[elder flume]

score 15 isnt hard ye
but most attempts run score 25 so barely any score 15 guides

[glass monolith]

Fuck HCM LS-4

[errant herald]

There was a fucking boss

[pearl compass]

Yeah, and it's easy.

[errant herald]

[pearl compass]

Since boss is nerfed af.

[errant herald]

Damn

So that could've gone way worse ur saying

[pearl compass]

Yep

[errant herald]

Wow this is so easy!!!

What about shangru trails

[pearl compass]

Sounds familiar

Yep

Ummm

[errant herald]

Hard?

[pearl compass]

How do you like IS6?

[errant herald]

Not so much.

Fuck is6

[pearl compass]

[errant herald]

Wait a damn minute

No no no

[elder flume]

where do you think the inspiration for IS6 come from

[pearl compass]

How about A LOTS of flying furniture

[errant herald]

HELL NAH

[wicked minnow]

umiri no diffs this tho

[errant herald]

Mf I can't even kill them I need to spam fast attacks

Fucking turns into a shield

[elder flume]

the humble oneshot hole

[wicked minnow]

[errant herald]

But I need the Orundum

I'm almost at 150 pulls

[pearl compass]

Well, cope with it and bring Ethan S1.

[errant herald]

[pearl compass]

Fia S3 could spawnkill the top right side of the map while most of enemies are idling there.

Use AOE and multitarget for helping killing those furniture.

[pearl compass]

Also note that:

You may leak a furniture and still get 400.

But make sure you will done 400 before dying.

Then you just can retreat everyone and die from it - you will still do 400.

[errant herald]

What

To confusing

[pearl compass]

The kill count only wants normal enemies from redbox.

It doesn't count furniture nor punish you for their breaching your bluebox.

Unless you're on 0 BaseHP, which immediately stops the battle.

If you do 400, you can just accept it.

[errant herald]

[shut hazel]

Ah yea that anni back then i almost restrat it cause leak

[azure roost]

wgel

[hidden axle]

Yo I just looked up a h16-4 clear
And uh
Wr get cocaine bear along with yurodstova in map 2
Except bear attacks yurodstova asw so if you play your cards right bear will be your greatest ally

[elder flume]

simply Yu S2

[hidden axle]

That clear used yu s2 indeed

Time to kidnap someone with yu

[pearl compass]

Ended friendship with Ep10 Cannon ❌

Now Ep16 Bear is our buddy ✅

[elder flume]

Yu less was tighter and need to keep boss from moving

[pearl compass]

I forgot did Yurostvo starts attacking bear

Or she still hits ours

[hidden axle]

Its map 2 so she cant dominion the bear anyways

[pearl compass]

I'm wondering about do I still need to bait the shots

Oh wait nvm she cannot instaKIA on Phase 2.

[weak gazelle]

huh? yurodstov with bear in same map?
this will be hard🫃

[hidden axle]

what I meant

[pearl compass]

As Phase 2, will be only this woman and this chad.

[elder flume]

if you bait bear with miners into boss then thats 1 enemy dead

[hidden axle]

Main enemy in fact

[weak gazelle]

already took every caster to bait yurodstov atk

[elder flume]

keeping miners alive to get there is the hard part

[weak gazelle]

i have no idea if both present

[pearl compass]

Time to do the gooooooooooooooal 🐻 ⚽

[hidden axle]

Unless I ENed, the bear and yurodstova meet at a certain position on the map

So do you even need to bait the bear to her

[elder flume]

if you take too much time bear loses buff and boss runs away

[weak gazelle]

ohh that easier then
maybe wait to experience it myself

if trag is caster.... then it should be very easy

[hidden axle]

that clear did no baiting asw, just yu s2 shenanigans

[elder flume]

thats because Yu S2 speeds up the process

[glass monolith]

Can't we just have Horn or whatever shoot bear over wall. How long bears ADHD lasts

[weak gazelle]

nah
casterknights or dont play it at all

[sly drift]

What if I don't have Yu and I already borrow someone else

[elder flume]

then its lead bear via miner

or just kill both individually to assert dominance

[scarlet fulcrum]

Kill both indeed

[exotic grove]

what exactly are you struggling with on 16-7?

and what does your roster look like

[rich moat]

I keep dying to Army Shieldguard and Fortbreaker

There's a website for showing your arknights account right?

[exotic grove]

yeah krooster.com

[rich moat]

https://krooster.com/u/mill-ie_me

[exotic grove]

wow oof
first off level up your skills
I'm shocked you have nobody e1

[rich moat]

Errr wait I think this looks a little outdated

[exotic grove]

you have to log in again for it to refresh
or manually update

[maiden hound]

thoughts on borrowing

[exotic grove]

what happened to surtr
also no need for myrtle if you have elysium, he's notably better than her, though if you do use her, myrtle should be using s1
this team is really rough overall, thorns wants e2 badly
lava isn't doing anything, melantha isn't doing much, hibiscus is hard cope when you have ptilopsis, and you have no dps
also you have silence why are you using gavial

[rich moat]

been trying to E2 thorns but getting his materials with barely any Sanity has been rough

Surtr I'll try upgrading her

[exotic grove]

surtr wants e2 badly too
get tequila from side stories, he's serviceable at e1 and will supplement your dps
since you have shamare, e2 teq and sham eventually to throw em into base trading post so they can print you money to build other ops

you can also replace exia with krooster at some point, she's cheaper and better

[rich moat]

I see
how do I switch my factories and powerplants into trading posts?

[exotic grove]

base should be 252, 2 TP, 5 FAC, 2 PP
check /base and /baseskill in #bot-spam and later #r-i-i-c pins base teams combos guide for tons of detail

while you're doing that I'll try and see if I can clear with your ops + a borrow

yeah ngl you're gonna have to borrow for this stage
your ops are cooked

[rich moat]

I logged back in if you wanna take a look again
https://krooster.com/u/mill-ie_me

[rich moat]

I tried borrowing Lappland for 16-7
Insta killed

[exotic grove]

lapptop or lappland guard?

[rich moat]

The caster one

[exotic grove]

yeah if you borrow an op it's ez clear
using your ops was torture ngl

[rich moat]

My bad chief

[pearl compass]

The reason why Lappy gets obligated to ashes

Is those Slugs reflect shit back to attacker.

Use non-source damage.

[exotic grove]

dw they haven't encountered the slugs yet

[rich moat]

The what.

[pearl compass]

Wait, 16-7 isn't Slug stage?

[exotic grove]

no it's the shieldguard cannon mech stage

[pearl compass]

Oh, that one

[exotic grove]

I could get close to clearing it using sakichan s2 (I don't have thorns) but even then it was like barely clearable so no way e1 thorns was gonna do that
and their only good dps is an e0lv50 sl2 surtr 💀

[thick sphinx]

If u time saki s3, it's a clear tho

[exotic grove]

they don't have sakichan

[rich moat]

If I e2 Thorns will I atleast get closer to beating it

[exotic grove]

I would do surtr first tbh

wait you have degen
why aren't you using her
and canta
brooo

[rich moat]

Well

Ok fine
Does she need e2

I'M A NEWBIE

[pearl compass]

Preferably

[exotic grove]

look I understand but you have them leveled why are you benching them for 3* ops

[pearl compass]

She can cook with S2

For weak enemies

[rich moat]

Ermmm I'll leave it up to you
I don't even know how to get past the big guard guy

[exotic grove]

use arts dmg for shieldguards
surtr, click, indigo, etc.

I'm so confused you actually have some decent ops leveled why are they benchwarming 😭

[thick sphinx]

Ih

[azure roost]

[exotic grove]

you can clear that stage by not clicking on any dialogue for 7 minutes
if it's really giving you trouble
I cleared it using just myrtle :D

[glass monolith]

And fail secret mission to kill all rocks or something

[hidden axle]

You play 5starknights right

[glass monolith]

I play whatever I feel like knights

[exotic grove]

yeah but they can do that later
if they just wanna clear it waiting clears it automatically

[hidden axle]

I wish to play 5 starknights so any useful 5 star recs for thar help

I have rechord's infographic but more input is always welcome

[glass monolith]

Usually I feel fucking around without 6*. And this is how I feel about chapter boss (I didn't screenshot and didn't edit squad much afterwards)

[hidden axle]

[glass monolith]

Ave ambusher and doll do damage. Uh... Quercus ftw

[hidden axle]

Quercus do be in da list

[exotic grove]

grace rockrock mutsumi tila canta laplu silence krooster matsukiri tequila amiya greyyter waaifu shamare etc are pretty nice and have uses imo
lots more

[glass monolith]

Imagine if auto correct on phone was slang talk

[hidden axle]

no greyy2 sadly, I do have the rest

[wicked minnow]

such a cool looking attack and then i look over to the left and see fiametta

they cooked so hard with that skin tho

[exotic grove]

I thought that was an enemy effect

[glass monolith]

I used Vendela S2 against molotov-tillery this chapter

[exotic grove]

enforcer push shenanigans

[wicked minnow]

i used tequilla and raidian s2

[exotic grove]

I used wisadel

[wicked minnow]

[exotic grove]

wow 5*knights is hard

[glass monolith]

Suddenly we need to play game and read what enemy do, right?

[exotic grove]

no it's hard because my best non agent vanguard is texas and she's e1 and dies to a slight breeze

and the stage has no dp gen

[errant herald]

This seems hard

I'm scared

[exotic grove]

just kill them

[pearl compass]

Easy.

[errant herald]

That ain't helping

[azure roost]

thats cringe

[azure roost]

kek

just kill them lol

just walte rit

[errant herald]

Walter?

[vital arrow]

wisadel

[errant herald]

I thought there was an operator called walter

[elder flume]

Soontm

[exotic grove]

w alter
walter
given name wiš'adel

[vital arrow]

we do

W alter

[exotic grove]

[hidden axle]

W2

[errant herald]

Walter white

[pearl compass]

They indeed fighting each other.

It's indeed goooooooooooooooal 🐻 ⚽

[hidden axle]

[pearl compass]

Now I already want to play H16-4.

[plucky flint]

is that the bear and the other boss

[pearl compass]

Yurostvo, da.

[hidden axle]

Yes cocaine bear has only enemies

[pearl compass]

[hidden axle]

[plucky flint]

that looks fun

[hidden axle]

Someone give me a rundown on ed4 btw

[pearl compass]

Indeed, if you have Yu S2.

You can make fight each other and finally kill her.

While bear is nothing.

[plucky flint]

time to raise my yu in like 4 days

[pearl compass]

Bear is your friend.

Tl;dr

[plucky flint]

nvm I'll just borrow for now

[hidden axle]

Is6 ed4

[plucky flint]

I don't play IS so I can't help you

[hidden axle]

:realmad:

[exotic grove]

H stage?

[pearl compass]

H16-4, yep

[hidden axle]

Yes you get both bear and yurodstova for H16-4 and they fight each other

[exotic grove]

now kiss

[hidden axle]

give me this before they kiss

[exotic grove]

idk game made me do a run to unlock ed4 relics and that killed all my motivation to do is
wait for is station peeps to hop in

[hidden axle]

Guide not updated hence asked smh yt only has sciel/pard ed4 clears which have no explanation about mechanic and how to get it

[exotic grove]

oh it's uh the uh scout node
sealed something or other relic
is station pins google doc has it
buy from first shop in bosky

[plucky flint]

how I wish I have the motivation to play IS since I got back playing

[hidden axle]

[plucky flint]

there are tons of modblocks there too

[hidden axle]

Oh now I rememver

That relic which buffes elites amd bosses

[exotic grove]

yea

then something with scout nodes

[hidden axle]

time to dig harder

[azure roost]

h16-2 is cocaine bear then h16-4 boss then on phase 2 is cocaine bear with boss

[exotic grove]

the op u send doesn't come back until f6

[azure roost]

so ye just teleport the boss on cocaine bear

and let her get mauled

[exotic grove]

evil unknown spirit thing vs bear on roids

"I have no enemies allies"

[odd forge]

I like bear

My new punching bag

[daring escarp]

Fr

[tidal patrol]

hello is my team good for clearing the story (I only reached chapter 8 and stopped for while to farm some old events story before silver ash ult banner)

[narrow pendant]

Uh, ye
Amiya and proviso dont need to be in the team at all as they sucky tbo

[tidal patrol]

I only use them for the flying enemies because they are annoying

[fierce narwhal]

Do you not have stuff like Krooster(the operator not the site)

[tidal patrol]

nope

[fierce narwhal]

Well, what ranged ops do you have, send your krooster(the site this time)

[tidal patrol]

oh here all my ranged ops

[fierce narwhal]

E1 Vermeil for the base skill, Kroos is really good, may and Pinecone are good

[tidal patrol]

should I level them all or just one?

[fierce narwhal]

Level May first, E1 L40 will work, E1 L1 for Vermeil and the same as may for Pinecone after

[fierce narwhal]

Also E2 your ops and E1 your surfer

[tidal patrol]

Oh alr then

[fierce narwhal]

Oh yeah and swap back to S1 on Amiya

S2 and S3 kinda shit

[tidal patrol]

oh but I was saving some materials for these characters

[fierce narwhal]

Your six stars are more important then the Sakiko polycule

[tidal patrol]

oh alr then I will skip them and upgrade my 6 stars ty

[fierce narwhal]

You’re welcome

[fierce narwhal]

E2 Breacher, Sash, Surtr, Asca, Reed then Pepe since you’ve already max Leveled her

In this order

After, Get Sakiko’s Module

Mod2 at the least

[tidal patrol]

Oh alr but I have to save so much LMD for that (I only have enough to promote one )

[fierce narwhal]

Welcome to arknights!

How does your base look like

What ops do you have in your presets and things like that

[daring escarp]

7 ops e1/e0

[tidal patrol]

[pearl compass]

BRUUUUUUUH

[fierce narwhal]

Why are you doing 513.

[pearl compass]

WTF

513

[fierce narwhal]

What is wrong with thee

[pearl compass]

[astral cosmos]

what the genuine fuck

[azure roost]

ancient setup

[astral cosmos]

uhhhh switch to 252 asap

[pearl compass]

Or 243

At least

[tidal patrol]

idk I remember watching a guide for building base and I build like that

[pearl compass]

Don't embarrass yourself

[astral cosmos]

I thought there wouldn't be a base worse than mine

I was wrong

[daring escarp]

513 HISTORICAL

[fierce narwhal]

What fucking guide did you watch?!

[azure roost]

namedrop pls

[fierce narwhal]

One from 7 years ago!

[azure roost]

[tidal patrol]

I forgot tbh

[astral cosmos]

anyways, just switch to 252 and get your base going in the right direction lol

[fierce narwhal]

It seems

[astral cosmos]

check #r-i-i-c pins and /base and /baseskills in #bot-spam

if that hasn't been said to you already

(didnt backread)

[daring escarp]

Everything changed since 7 years ago

[azure roost]

this is first time i saw 5/1/3

[fierce narwhal]

Also known as, I have 5 million gold and have enough exp to level every operator to max from E0 L1

[sly drift]

Yurodstvo targeting is simply last deployed right?

[daring escarp]

I'm thinking of ways to throw out earthspirit now

[azure roost]

just do the usual faust frd baiting

its every two shot i think

[daring escarp]

Every 4th

[pearl compass]

Tutel W.

[daring escarp]

3 are empty

[pearl compass]

[azure roost]

ngl i didnt bother counting yuro every attack

i just put frd there

[sly drift]

Except there are like 3 other global range enemies.

[daring escarp]

Same

Haruka heals too much anyways

Also phantom is kinda goated here for the lower op

[azure roost]

me when my phanton s1m3 have usage

[tidal patrol]

is this good now?

[azure roost]

[fierce narwhal]

Do you understand what 252 means

[maiden hound]

something is off

[hidden axle]

An eldritcg horror

[astral cosmos]

we meant 5 factories and 2 trading posts

[hidden axle]

[astral cosmos]

[hidden axle]

Yeah^

[azure roost]

god this is amazing

[hidden axle]

Downgrade those dorms to lvl 1

[tidal patrol]

Oh

[maiden hound]

may as well go 5tp for the gold clearance special

[hidden axle]

I have a bad feeling about the condition of your base slaves now

[astral cosmos]

check the resources I told you to, they'll help tremendously

[fierce narwhal]

They also are using E0 L50 Proviso
In their main team

[azure roost]

[tidal patrol]

Alr how about now

[fierce narwhal]

Better

The factories and trading posts need to be upgraded obviously

But better

[astral cosmos]

yup perfect
now you can downgrade all dorms to lv1 except the first one that stays lv2
and upgrade all these factories
you can leave 1 trading post at lv2, thats the one you put proviso in

[hidden axle]

Downgrade dorns to lvl 1 so that you can uprgade tp and facts

[fierce narwhal]

Now downgrade the dorms

[hidden axle]

Can we look at the ops you have

[fierce narwhal]

Just gonna do this so everyone can see the team that you are using

[hidden axle]

What the

[azure roost]

ngl what a rare specimen to encounter on #strategy

[tidal patrol]

Like this?

[pearl compass]

Yep

[tidal patrol]

do I have to max the last 2 factories or it’s fine?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its fine, u already maximize ur energy

[fierce narwhal]

Your power is maxed out, so that’s the best you can do

[scarlet fulcrum]

Now ur base workers

[fierce narwhal]

Post your Krooster

That way we can see what Ops you should upgrade

I guess we’re never getting that Krooster

[azure roost]

[sly drift]

Man.. trying to clear 16-16 actually give me headache.

Damageable window is too thin outside the mist. Civs dies before they open map. Yurodstvo don't die to Grace+Shamare combo. Even the easiest mobs are unblockable

And then the last wave

[tidal patrol]

oh sorry about that I will send it when I get home

[scarlet fulcrum]

One step closer to become rich

[fierce narwhal]

All’s good

[shell vessel]

what's the best approach for keeping surtr alive? I tried two medics and nearl but still retreats

[fierce narwhal]

Don’t, Surtr hospital is a funny Strat, but not a good Strat

[lethal ferry]

This stage with five stars is actually the worst, I managed to kill everything but the right mech after a 25 minute attempt and just called it for the day

[sly drift]

Not remotely close to literal "worst" obviously. But everything on phase 2 is just insanely strict. Every second matter.

[lethal ferry]

The issue I have with it is how long the first phase takes, 6-8 minutes per phase 2 attempt

[sly drift]

That is so fking true

[lethal ferry]

And sometimes the bottom miner spawns in the wrong place then I just die

[brittle mesa]

Has anyone thought about use of bubble, Jaye and aoe medic in cocaine bear stage?

[hidden axle]

Jaye and cuora are enough with a medic