strategy

[sly drift]

We don't want to see dead person

[pearl compass]

She isn't dead.
She's reincarnated.

[sly drift]

[austere skiff]

cro how tf do i do r8-8

this shit seems nigh impossible

[foggy grove]

did you know that cat can lure aerial enemies

[foggy grove]

your known broken creature trag

[maiden hound]

trag cant solo talulu? weak

[glass monolith]

Can't even secret ending, bruh

[pearl compass]

Almost

Literally almost to Secret End.

[foggy grove]

i mean it can

i just mistapped the cat

💤

[mild wind]

[austere skiff]

yep

[austere skiff]

ah

which drones do i prio first

so they dont murk trag while the cat is on deployment cd

[foggy grove]

the one in the middle

the rest idle for ages

bring your other unit and frd to speed it up

[sly drift]

What's your squad

Lemme see

[tired relic]

mis pat the cat you mean

https://tenor.com/view/pat-cat-pat-pat-gif-25250101

[austere skiff]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/des

[sly drift]

You have good units.

Lemme cook something

Yea Tragodia S2 solo

If full squad. Kill duo drone on middle first using SA or something. Then open talulah path. Kill drone one by one. You can pre deploy your Gracebearer somewhere to spin.. killing those jetpack enemies in second. You can do the same with Tequila or sth

Use Gravel to bait drone.

This stage is quite basic to be honest

[austere skiff]

honestly i just placed trag in a corner and let his cat kill off everything

[sly drift]

My bad.. it's not so basic.. actually quite braining if you don't have hyper carry or some shi.

[full terrace]

Nah you just have skill isssue, aint no hyper carry needed arkrec has plenty of 4 Stars records

[exotic grove]

that's what they meant by "braining" lol
u gotta use ur dokutah brain

[sly drift]

The braining start when you actually don't watch video reference dawg.

What's so hard about looking at answer when you have quiz

[full terrace]

I dont need video reference to achieve that, not especially while spamming 12x E2 lmfao

Get good dawg

[sly drift]

Only use half of this

The squad*

Heck I can record video right now right here if I want to

[exotic grove]

don't bother lmao this guy is so full of himself

[sly drift]

[full terrace]

You dont need to record anything, most if not all your claims are empty claims with no substances anyway, like this #strategy message impossible what? Literally 2 hours after that I got full evidence that it can be done. It's impossible for you, it's not impossible for others. You need hyper carry for the stage doesnt mean others need it, because the fact is, they simply dont, it's skill issue on your part, sorry not sorry for hurting your ego.

[sly drift]

Oh hey... bringing back THAT aren't we

Have you done it?

[full terrace]

I have. Where is my $200? Unlike you I got full evidence and not making empty claims 😂

[sly drift]

12 full E2 squad with THAT specific all chosen operators?

I want to see it

Who knows that it's empty claim as well

[glass monolith]

You underestimate skill issue

[full terrace]

Hahahahaha well said brother 🤣

[glass monolith]

or just covering lazyness

I have bunch of recorded low rarity / levels year+ ago when people in this chat were asking instead throwing wisadel at stuff

[full terrace]

Honestly this guy is irritating, keeps making nonsense claim like "it's impossible", "it needs hyper carry"

Borderline misinfo

[sly drift]

It's under 1%
Generally speaking

[full terrace]

I might sound so smug and full of myself just now, but tbh with you, nonsense claims like these are misleading, got me super upset

[sly drift]

To have E2 12 ops squad with very specific all 12 operators in IS2

[glass monolith]

Yes having squad size 12 in IS2 is bullshit

[sly drift]

And they are all E2 with every fking single operator is what you want

[sly drift]

You are being very sensitive tbh.. What I've literally said is "It's quite braining when you don't have hypercarry or some shi" #strategy message , I'm talking about my opinion on that stage. And THAT somehow triggers you.

What is your problem exactly?

[full terrace]

It kinda is
But I mean it's not quote-unquote impossible, it just needs highrolling on relics

[glass monolith]

Yuva being upset for whatever reason gave me motivation to do Ultimate Trial which was stupidly easy with rarity abuse

[full terrace]

Bro finish it, event is like what 12 hours left

17 hours okay close enough

[glass monolith]

I finished levels 41-45 yesterday, now is first time I did ult

IS3 trauma goes deep

[full terrace]

You got it. Ultimate is not much difference compared to Spectacular

[glass monolith]

i know i got it, Lemuen died to Imizuk fart then goldenglow goldenglowed all over it

[sly drift]

I'm not upset about anything. It just that this very random guy call me skill issue for saying the stage need "Braining" if you don't abuse hypercarry.

Which is.. what the fk is this guy even on

[full terrace]

Yah those farts are kinda annoying

I used to highroll Shift relic with Weedy to push him pre-Wisadel era to bypass those farts, nowadays we got Ange

[sly drift]

Look.. Same squad but half of it. Had to post this just to prove my point

Heck I probably can go even lower

[teal moon]

I kinda feel bad clearing it with rarity abuse, it was so easy. Did only some laterano only later for fun

[mild wind]

how much block does playwright take

[wicked minnow]

1

[mild wind]

huh

why did bro slipped from my ulpian

i literally spawncamped

[sly drift]

Playwright slipped out is almost death sentence

He become insanely annoying for the rest of the stage

[mild wind]

ulpian is supposed to solo spawncamp him like basic trials did

definitely tanky enough

but then several seconds later hes 3 tiles away from him

[sly drift]

S2?

What is even happening

[full terrace]

Playwright cant be blocked, thats his innate ability, been that way since years ago

[mild wind]

3

[tired relic]

i just tried ulpianus hoe with m3

[sly drift]

Enemy Description don't even tell you that he is unblockable. I never block him too, didn't know he is unblockable.

[tired relic]

no one stands a chance

[sly drift]

Playwright is.. you either beat him in a few seconds. Or he obliterated you whole squad in a few seconds.

There's no in between

[mild wind]

what the fuck

[tired relic]

ive actually survived him twice

[mild wind]

this is so troll bro

ive never reached is2 ed4 either

[tired relic]

without spawn camping

but yeah

he is indeed annoying

[tired relic]

wtf

arent you like vet

dont blame it on rng!

[mild wind]

fyi i dont even try to clear ed2

[tired relic]

youre slop

[mild wind]

nope i dont play stinky is

[tired relic]

stinky

sure

:clueless:

[sly drift]

Can't blame you. IS2 is abysmal dogshi

[teal moon]

just to know, don't you ever check wiki for boss info?

[tired relic]

just check tomimi

[teal moon]

and I remember it being written somewhere, but maybe I'm schizo

[teal moon]

yeah, either works

[lyric elbow]

Sorry are there any clears of BP 8 with Elite 1 Wisadel (or anyone for that matter)? I joined the game during the last event so i have no E2 opps to use Wis Skill 3

[sly drift]

What do you even mean by saying that

[full terrace]

You are given a free E2 Voucher when you start the game, rush to grab a Tequila, and then spend your E2 Voucher on him

That way you can borrow an E2 Support Unit

[lyric elbow]

thanx I forgor about the voucher

[teal moon]

it's just that it's like the first thing you read when you search the boss info in the wiki

[full terrace]

😂

[teal moon]

and we all know how the in-game info most of the time aren't 100% complete

[full terrace]

Some people cant read bro

Or just have skill issue

Please understand

[teal moon]

so I thought everyone always checked boss infos on wiki (or tomimi or prts wiki)

[sly drift]

Oh you mean actual wiki on web? Nah..

[mild wind]

i only look at wiki if i read the entire ingame description but something goes incredibly off somehow in battle

[sly drift]

I read on game

[lyric elbow]

Why Tequila tho ? Are thre better possible units to use it on? I have la pluma

[teal moon]

but like, for IS I've always done it since the info are basically always lacking

[tired relic]

nothing goes incredibly wrong when you are using meta ops, so yeah

which is why people need to read

[teal moon]

even to know atk interval of skills or some other specific things

[tired relic]

🙂‍↕️

[teal moon]

event bosses are kinda a joke that you can do them blind lol

[full terrace]

Tequila has the dps. La Pluma works too but I mean, you will be E2-ing Tequila regardless for your base later on, so might as well E2 him now

[sly drift]

You are so awkward. Do you have some personal grudge against me for this very trivial topic? Pretty sure you made bunch of enemies irl at this point.

[mild wind]

[tired relic]

i think

an easy solve is

just block

each other

[mild wind]

lord i so dont want to do tn-4

have the exact operators to push everyone but too attention deprived to execute it

[glass monolith]

Being offended by skill issue is like being offended by git gud, just take L and move on already

[tired relic]

you shouldnt be taking his critisicm so seriously anyways, people have diff viewpoints and ways to understand things

[mild wind]

[teal moon]

Ik nth about the beef but the problem of blocking is that you can't correct the other one when someone spout nonsense

[full terrace]

TN-4 is easier than TN-3 tbh, if you get past TN-3 there is nothing stopping you from clearing TN-4

[sly drift]

I mean this.. calling someone skill issue because saying "need Braining if you don't have hypercarry" is straight up peak EN community insanity, While he doesn't even understand the convo.

Like.. who the fk said I need hypercarry to complete that stage, I just said you need some "braining" if you don't have hypercarry, which of course it is especially these kind of newbie guys who usually have limited squad on their own.

had to say this because what the hell is short conversation even about. That supposed to be casual but this guy come up just to made it so awkward.

[teal moon]

yeah, tn-4 easier than tn-3 honestly

[tired relic]

no chicken nuggets here has very low attention span

[mild wind]

maybe d15 lobotomized my perception of the bosses

[sly drift]

I take the L only when it's reasonable
Or just straight up trolling

For even remember and bringing up old topic, this dude genuinely have personal grudge against me

[tired relic]

d15 what though

[teal moon]

lemuen kinda solo the first wave, second wave is slop, third one is almost solo by wisadel in my experience

[mild wind]

[tired relic]

anyways

cnt u just bruteforce if you cnt do the hole thingy

you can do it afterwards

[scarlet fulcrum]

ppl just lazy to read

[tired relic]

ah

my fav

[teal moon]

yeah, I remember it being said somewhere

[glass monolith]

Oh she is not blockable? I was too busy KILLING HER WITH FIRE to notice

[tired relic]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-gif-3403616098614705012

[tired relic]

he*

[sly drift]

Then why the hell it is not in enemy description here

[tired relic]

yep a pretty man

[astral cosmos]

the words skill issue don't even have their place here at all. this is a place to help, not to yap at each other

I don't want to see any more "skill issue" in here ever again

[tired relic]

w modulator

[mild wind]

[tired relic]

module

model

[scarlet fulcrum]

some ability only written there, very rare tho

[sly drift]

Tell that to this dude @full terrace

The very dude

[wicked minnow]

good question. seems like something that should be because it generally is. but it's been so long since is2 released and had the playwright that it's too late

[full terrace]

Dont ping me

[astral cosmos]

I was saying this in general
arf, for this matter specifically, the ping is justified

[sly drift]

Block me.

Nah i will block you

[teal moon]

there is even an enemy that specify "not blockable" in the pre stage info and not in the on stage info?

[astral cosmos]

you can also take the useless banter to dms

[tired relic]

btw do you have max pot mostima

just curious

[mild wind]

p2

🥀

[tired relic]

🥀

[tired relic]

maybe it is yostar

ill have to check cn

[wicked minnow]

pre stage descriptions are mostly flavor text. it stating in the flavor text that the boss is unblockable but not in the actuall boss stats page and abilities is a problem. yeah

[tired relic]

sometimes it's just random lore

[teal moon]

Ik

[tired relic]

time to sleep

gn

[mild wind]

nope ill sleep at 6am when im supposed to drive the noon afterwards

[sly drift]

"Why don't you just read enemy skill in pop up description"
Pop up description :

[teal moon]

don't want to be that guy, but you're kinda nitpicking. I'd recommend in the future to read wiki for boss info, especially if in the middle of an IS run since it takes time to do one

[sly drift]

Ik bro.. it's not so serious
Why everyone is so sweaty today

[astral cosmos]

i'm afraid most problems are solved by finding the fuck out

the info is there

[teal moon]

#strategy message simply because of this. I thought you needed help since, you know, this is in the end a help channel

just a small tip for the future

I always say "check wiki" since most people don't lol

sorry if I soundend pedantic

[sly drift]

No problem. Tbf it was never me who needed help

[scarlet fulcrum]

tbh i only care about it when there is green text appear, cause thats what tooltip ak for

[lapis hornet]

hey guys

any tfn guide for newbies?! I'm need to speedrun it

[full terrace]

😏

[wicked minnow]

if you rerolled on exu2 banner. exu2 + warfarin known broken combo

[full terrace]

Bro it's cake

He is not a newbie

[wicked minnow]

that's the joke

[full terrace]

Okay you got me

😂

[wicked minnow]

warfarin + exu2 can kill the BSL and get to 2nd stage after only 1 enemy spawned

how broken

[full terrace]

Yeah I was shooting BSL with Exu too, on my alt

[crisp bolt]

wow, how broken is nuking yourself

[foggy grove]

yato exu clear before enemy spawned
how broken

[full terrace]

Exu self nuke much fewer times than Wisadel, I'll call that a win 😂

[serene hornet]

[crisp bolt]

exualt s3 vs BSL trust

[fathom sedge]

Any strats for 9-19

[somber falcon]

🪨 ↘️ 🐱

[foggy grove]

pillar ruining cat's day

[bitter halo]

what are people playing on ultimate trial

[somber falcon]

they're playing the game, I'd say

[glass monolith]

I brought elemental rarity abuse squad and elemented all over them

[undone herald]

flamebearers team definitely gets the job done

[bitter halo]

so gg + lappland works ?

do i even need to use bobbing

[glass monolith]

Catmanless

[bitter halo]

[foggy grove]

it's okay you can global slop tlk

[swift elk]

Pfio

Should I upgrade my base and what should i purio

Prio

[regal frost]

ask in #help next time but check /base in #bot-spam
also #help pins, newbie squad building and newbie vouchers

that's a decent squad though ngl
would just swap out orchid, Jessica, amiya and hibiscus

[bitter halo]

are you making fun of me too isnt trag also global slop

got to 3rd boss

[swift elk]

Ohh okayyy

[bitter halo]

i might lose cause dp cost are so high now

the aoe dmg killed my dps nvm

i need a healer for third boss i guess

[wintry gulch]

global slop but cool because it's a cat

[bitter halo]

im not using them on this attempt since i need space for a healer

[plucky grove]

does tfn izumik blow up all your ops or does he just do reasonable damage

[maiden hound]

it's d0 stats so i think you gon be fine

[undone herald]

he hits hard but very slowly, so make sure your healers can survive the hit and you're fine (assuming you can keep him away from the offspring)

[glass monolith]

All my 1500 hp or less or so units explode

[bitter halo]

the offspring nearest to red box is hard to kill

[fringe solstice]

I just did is3 strats because I have ptsd The jellyfish don't turn into anything crazy so you can block

[plucky grove]

wait the small jellies only turn into the weak fish ?

[maiden hound]

save me rosesalt

[glass monolith]

Each jelly coded to their own shit, there is this droneborne somewhere

420 times better that fucking freeze spiders and icebreakers and half of patriot squad of IS3

[unkempt lintel]

imagine blocking a jellyfish then a big dude cover with armor appear

[glass monolith]

bind casters too

[plucky grove]

ok wow it was much easier than ed4 cuz the jellies were easy to kill

[fringe solstice]

ye I think so

[bitter halo]

i thought they all get fused with izumik

[plucky grove]

what gets increased exactly? e.g. logos necrosis damage +35% or just his elemental damage?

[bitter halo]

it says only burn dmg so probably not the necrosis part

[unkempt lintel]

should be the injury itself and the proc yeh?

[plucky grove]

yeah im thinking like...does it increase the damage of the proc, the specific elemental damage, the elemental damage type, or all of them?

[bitter halo]

should i even use wisadel for ultimate her s3 dmg isnt enough and its so slow

[glass monolith]

Not sure about any aditional effects but burst damage proc feels stronger on tragodia cat

[undone herald]

which fight isnt she doing enough against?

[glass monolith]

i assume he wastes all ammo on patriot stats jellies

[bitter halo]

shes not needed on wave 1 . Skadi has multiple revive. On wave 3 she is usable but i want constant dmg like s1 tuya

im using mosnter to kill skadi i hope it work

[plucky grove]

i thought skadi just dies if you speedkill her

[bitter halo]

it works with monster + logos better than wisadel alone

my ejya respawn time is cooked

wait narantuya s1 is not manual deactivate

it keep cycling wtf

[plucky grove]

youre

using the buff that makes skills auto use

[bitter halo]

yes easier on the brain

[unkempt lintel]

w8 does that also affect skills that can be turn off

like

tequila s2

lin s3

coz uhhh... it will be wierd if they cast skill and then poof coz game off their skill

[full stream]

they active it as soon as they can

so tequila cant overcharge

[unkempt lintel]

i xan somehow imagine toggle skills... ummm.. toggling.. like naran s1

[full stream]

and mountain constantly switch forms

[unkempt lintel]

yeh also him coz his s2 is a toggle one

but i dont imagine like lin s3 auto cast then her skill will turn off coz of the gadget

[undone herald]

toggle skills stay on, they dont manually toggle off

at least ammo skills do

[full stream]

we are talking about full overload buff from ToN

[undone herald]

yeah

[unkempt lintel]

coz i need clarification with this bit

[plucky grove]

well time to try it

[somber falcon]

turning off skill is called deactivation, not toggle

[full stream]

nah it doesnt turn off its not sp based

[unkempt lintel]

yeh i cant rly test it atm... still 30 mins before breaktime

thats why i only rely to imagination

[plucky grove]

it stays on

[foggy grove]

idk why you would think otherwise

[glass monolith]

Ammo and other manual stopable skills still manual, shit like change shiet like Mountain S2, that one sniper S1 etc will keep chaotically switch both ways

[unkempt lintel]

its either my english sucks or the help chat misinfoed?

[fringe solstice]

well naran s1 and mountain s2 are different. ig hg figured out how to make manual deactivation

[glass monolith]

He asked the question, how can you be misinfoed by question?

(Yes he missed question mark)

[somber falcon]

those checkmarks sure are misinfo tho

[plucky grove]

yea the checkmarks are misinfo

[pearl breach]

double check whose check that belongs to

not all helpers are reliable source

[glass monolith]

That's why i ignore emote reaction and beat answers in physical form on A4 lists

[unkempt lintel]

good good atleast my imagination works as how it should be 🥹

[maiden hound]

✅

[scarlet fulcrum]

U should play IS3 someday

[slim hare]

Hello new to game
I need help in choosing which characters to level up and play with and also with team building

[tired relic]

krooster and tequila from sidestory and use e2 ticket on tequila, silverash lappland silence fang orchid click when you get them myrtle too

this should go in #help btw

also check pins there

[slim hare]

Thx

[slim hare]

Btw can u further explain this like explaining it to someone who doesn't know anything

[tired relic]

krooster is good aa she will take care of all your aa needs plus more

tequila is a good dps and earl game youd need it

sa needs e2 to fully be useful but his s3 is a multitarget burst skill

which can clear dangerous enemy waves

lappland can work as arts dps and her silence is useful early on

silence for medic needs with pseudo global range

others are just cheap options until you get someone good

[sly drift]

This dude is either comeback player from 2020 or Pulled too much on Kernel for some reason.

Either way it's crazy work

[slim hare]

I am here to gamble
f2p player tho

[sly drift]

I understand. But you need to gamble in better place.

In case you genuinely have no idea. Kernel (Blue banner) contain older release. The other is newer released operator.

[slim hare]

They gave me the tickets to summon there probably twice and once I did on my own

[sly drift]

You are very lucky then.

But yea, don't purposely pull kernel blue banner... for better value

[slim hare]

Which one should i summon on then?

[sly drift]

This have the best Value currently.
BUT..
Next banner (Leizi the Thunderstorm) is also as good. One of the best damage dealer on the game.

The best value is actually semi limited character banner in January. Only if you want to wait of course, because I know some player just want to play the game without caring about Meta that much.

[gray latch]

I'm arranging squad for annihilation3 yan downtown ,
what skill would ptilopsis find more use there
S1 heal up or s2 range expand

[sly drift]

S2 more likely

Ptilopsis is Almost always S2

What comp do you bring?

[gray latch]

Ptilopsis e1lvl50, silent e0lvl50

[gray latch]

I'm trying the comp on Dr.Leon channel

Lord (silverash) + Thorns

• 4 defender and 2 archers

[foggy grove]

that's ancient

use 2025 ops

[gray latch]

That one looks comfier tho..
I failed previous attempt cos my dps / tank weren't invested

There's a narantuya comp tho from 5 months ago

[lime lantern]

genuinely how do i beat this

[plucky grove]

ines e1 doesn't have invis reveal right? i don't think you can, you need a good blocker on bottom

[pearl compass]

That's the neat point.

I skip it.

[lime lantern]

i refreshed into it 🔥

Holy refresh pull

[pearl compass]

Fated

[lime lantern]

actually such a trash stage

[plucky grove]

youd need myrtle on bottom with healer and very high dps but you also need high dps for mid lane so like i think this one's gonna be tough

[lime lantern]

i mean the problem is there isnt any dps unless melee that can cover the actually deployable tiles

and theres invis enemies that path to the undeployable tiles

[plucky grove]

oh lol you have e1 ptilo so no chance of module with range upgrade (p sure that's her module)

so yeah instantly cooked

:fated:

[sly drift]

Me when Frequent Dispute

[mild wind]

is there enough tile for yato to oneshot flagbearers in tlk wave

without triggering their passive

[pearl compass]

Does it matter will they trigger or not?

[mild wind]

i didnt play the stage yet so i havent note all the enemy types

[pearl compass]

Seems to me they're pointless dudes you can actually ignore until TLK is killed.

They even cannot destroy blockage by themselves to start with.

[plucky grove]

i just hit them first because it didnt really matter for me, knight wasnt very tanky even with all flagbearers activated

[pearl compass]

Absolutely harmless.

[mild wind]

well for tlk

i either tragodia stall or push

[pearl compass]

That's it.

So you just kill those dudes easily without thinking too hard.

They cannot even counterattack you.

[sly drift]

You have 2 hours and 14 minutes left to complete all

[smoky halo]

let the hammer guy break top
draft may and use s2

no reason to use kroos over may when may has air stun lol

[smoky halo]

thats why u let hammer guy break top so invi guy paths top

[mild wind]

welp here goes nothing for the rest of the waves

[smoky halo]

the red flag guy has a special passive where it cant go below 1hp until they trigger the alarm

unless u hole them ofc

[mild wind]

oh no i intentionally left them low HP so i could redeploy my ops

[smoky halo]

i thought u wanted to 1 tap them

without alarm

which isnt possible except via hole

[mild wind]

originally

[pearl compass]

Stunning will prevent them trigger flag tho.

But they need to kill ASAP before this falls off.

[smoky halo]

show me

[glass monolith]

Just use cursed art of Chen S2M3 + Phantom/Texas2 S3 to... Kill one of them

[mild wind]

[smoky halo]

show me u killing them without triggering

(not via hole)

[foggy grove]

how to stun enemy that immune to it

[glass monolith]

Sure. Didn't try it post engine update but why the fuck would they change it #strategy message

[smoky halo]

ok nice ill check it again post engine update

[tired relic]

err

let the dude destroy first rock

put someone to kil first low alt enemy

and consequently others

that come after

you gotta get rid of spike

when dude destroys last rock

place other place someone to kill him

so you only have 2 lanes to worry cuz enemy will take the path that was first blocked by the rocks

[smoky halo]

this is where u use the pythagorean method to find out that traveling diagonally up top is shorter than left then up

👍

[pearl compass]

Fucking shit, they really trigger flag as soon as they gets hitted.

[smoky halo]

how broken is mafs

[pearl compass]

[smoky halo]

[pearl compass]

Guess they're not the same as Screaming Flowers.

[tired relic]

i said what that implied

👍

[smoky halo]

yep how broken is mafs

[tired relic]

i think everything rides on it

that broken

[glass monolith]

Either they fixed that obscure shit or I am so high skilled I got filtered by frame gate on health check

[smoky halo]

ye cos i tried myself too the other day

and it just wont work

🥀

[glass monolith]

Most random fix of most obscure interaction

[pearl compass]

Welp

We tried.

[mild wind]

wait ive never faced izumik my entire life

what do i do

[pearl compass]

You die.

[mild wind]

got it

[pearl compass]

Get farted

[plucky grove]

i dont know if im insanely unlucky, but i tried with mlynar buff team and it looks like they have an hp gate

so they cant die until they activate

[smoky halo]

u can watch my clear for reference ‼️

[mild wind]

[smoky halo]

when izumik eat 5 jelly
global aoe fart
when izumik stun all ops from time to time in phase 2

izumik also stun all ops when losing 25% hp

[glass monolith]

I managed to kill them in 2022 #strategy message but it been forever and engine update since then

[mild wind]

can i cope those with eyja s3

or its oneshot

[glass monolith]

She should survive e2 60.

Unless you overlap stun and jelly consuming fart

[mild wind]

do i have enough time to setup push on first hole

obv im stalling smol jelly with tragodia

but idk if he can survive that fard

[glass monolith]

It won't become targetable until it full heal from jelly or reach AFK spot on left from red boxes

[foggy grove]

shift cancel still works at least

[mild wind]

how much do i need to feed

[glass monolith]

Hole clear video had to push jellies from left to right to have it targetable for Yu teleport for third hole

https://youtu.be/Gs6-3NaeWi0?si=Cp3h3-X5JmUV8es3

[plucky grove]

i added another buffer, so, i could confirm they have an hp gate

[glass monolith]

It has hp gate, but there was "feature" that if it was blocked it "attacks" before triggering allowing to murder it in time

[plucky grove]

that is crazy

[mild wind]

whats the interval in between receiving damage and triggering

coz yato multihits just enough for it to not be able to trigger

[glass monolith]

Instant if you just damage

[mild wind]

[worn root]

The feesh go into the square hole

[plucky grove]

interesting

wait now i want to try

gavialt s2

[glass monolith]

Btw that health check time is almost universal thing. I was checking Silence Alter S2 + Aak some time ago and noticed there was delay on her DR talent updating

[mild wind]

ok the crucial info i need is

[plucky grove]

it doesn work

[mild wind]

how much jelly do i need to feed izumi to max his hp

[plucky grove]

isnt it easier to kill the jelly? they just turn into tiny fish enemies

well most of them

some turn into spear flowers or mantas

[plucky grove]

when blocked*

[mild wind]

i need its invul removed asap so i can push

[smoky halo]

20

[plucky grove]

oh you dont have dps for it

[smoky halo]

u can use shu tp to tp while invul

i think

it works with cresson

[mild wind]

ok so i need to restart regardless

sob

[smoky halo]

first 2 stages r jobber bruh

[mild wind]

and idk who to bring

theres like 2 vacant squad slot

[void terrace]

Is pozy still worth using

In 2025

Considering her module and silverash

Her redeployment time can drop below 40s

Just wondering how her damage holds up

[mild wind]

oh btw

how long before its invul appears again after i stripped it

[rich plover]

Might need help with Ultimate Trial

[glass monolith]

Reappear? Dude that phase exist in IS3 as F- you and reason to spawn 200 jelly fishes which turn into freeze spiders and ice breakers to fuck whatever you doing

It is one and gone

[mild wind]

ok thank god that means i can infinite stall

coz i fucked up yu timing

[rich plover]

Here's what I used for the Spectacular Trial (Lemeun support)

[rich plover]

I do not have Yato Alter

Hmmm

[glass monolith]

I used her for some reason idk, killing wave 2 mobs probably

[rich plover]

Laptop it is

[glass monolith]

Sudoku run wave 2 and then beacon abuse it

[plucky grove]

i may be stupid

i think it can be done tho...

[glass monolith]

Did you fucking boat rest of squad or where are they?

[mild wind]

finally done with jellies..

[plucky grove]

i just felt like doing clear with ops i like using

[mild wind]

mfw im doing allat just for lvl35 mod stuffs

[pearl compass]

Prepared for 4th Wave against Qui'lon, trust.

[rich plover]

Ultimate or Spectacular Trial?

[mild wind]

[pearl compass]

Do Ult

Or chicken

[rich plover]

Btw, which Limiter Unit?

[glass monolith]

The third one

I don't care for them this TfN

[rich plover]

Redundant Array? I guess

[mild wind]

i alr got what i want idc anymore

[rich plover]

Thank goodness Ultimate Trial is optional

[pearl compass]

It's not even hard to begin with.

[rich plover]

What does it give btw?

[glass monolith]

Nothing, just EXP burst

[plucky grove]

i still think the 4th limiter unit is finicky to use

i dont like having to time deployments

not sure why its so popular

[glass monolith]

Bro you summarizing why Exu is benched by me

[mild wind]

2020 exu1 s3 simulator

[spice mortar]

4th is so good

You just dont care and win

[plucky grove]

so its unga bunga buff?

i guess that works

[mild wind]

if you want the 2nd other word

its metastatic but not harmful

[spice mortar]

Yes, what does it matter if deployments are not optimal, they will use skill again soon enough

Eyjaberry s3 and shu keeps everyone alive

And then just insta nuke with wis or sash

[plucky grove]

i think maybe this can clear tn4 ult but im getting kinda sleepy

[rich plover]

Wow uh, that was easy

Ultimate was the same as Spectacular

[pearl compass]

Like I said.

[rich plover]

Squad I used

I regret not pulling for Yu

[smoky halo]

that clears

exu lem duo already clears buffless

[plucky grove]

thats fucked up im gonna watch that clear in the morning

i cant figure it out lol im too tired

[smoky halo]

first 2 stages is trivial

only izumik hard

[plucky grove]

yea i cant figure out placement and skill cycles for izumik

[smoky halo]

i have 3 op with virt

if u wanna watch as reference

im too bad to do 2 ops

i thought 2 op was impossible for lateran due to lack of aoe

[plucky grove]

sure its gonna have to be tmr when i get to see it tho

[smoky halo]

but apparently the cn guy told me to just git gud

🥹

cycle better or something idk 😭

[full terrace]

Reminder: TFN #05 ends in 19 mins

[full stream]

🤯

[pearl compass]

https://tenor.com/view/w-arknights-sleep-a-mimir-gif-11657270703827395738

[plucky grove]

wait i just realized if you dont touch the screaming flowers they just sit at the roadblock

revelation....

too late now tho cuz it ends in 17 minutes

[smoky halo]

[tired relic]

eh

but why are ppl struggling with trials

it is pretty easily bruteforcreable, no?

[pearl compass]

Weak acc

[tired relic]

unless youre new

yeah

[pearl compass]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5Wj_8VWsAA8akV.gif

[tired relic]

that explains

[plucky grove]

bruteforce too boring

so trying low op at 6am in the morning

[pearl compass]

Also some vets are just skipping this mode

Cause

It's so boring mode

[plucky grove]

rewards are kinda shit too

[full stream]

The rewards are good?

It's good

[pearl compass]

Module block and Pull

[full stream]

Idk why u calling a pull+4 module blocks bad

[plucky grove]

oh yeah i forgot

im thinking after lv 35 i think

it just becomes really forgettable rewards

[full stream]

Those two things alone makes it much better than vector rewards🚬

[plucky grove]

i dont remember vector rewards so they must be pretty bad

[smoky halo]

wtfart low op

with 1hr to spare

[plucky grove]

ya i was bored and not tired

now i am tired

🛌

[smoky halo]

1hr is fine if not doing 2op tbh

my 3op only took me 1hr

3op easy ya

(i spent more time editing) 😭

[wicked minnow]

i shoved 2 sp devices on to wisadel and watched her do her thing

very cool stage

[smoky halo]

wtf wishadele aboozer

[wicked minnow]

[limpid ore]

he explosive dawn across the map, very wisadel-y

[pearl compass]

[spice mortar]

Both survive

Crown s3 mudrock existing

Mudrock my goat <3

[glass monolith]

Environmental hazard don't care about Clown s3

[wicked minnow]

wrong crownslayer skill

crown s1

how broken

[smoky halo]

wtf off topic post

mods ban this bozo ‼️

[austere skiff]

any tips for r8-11?

the initial wave is kinda hard to stop from leaking

the emperor's blades turning talulah's defence into slush is annoying as shit too

[lapis hornet]

old easy way was thorns+someone

now you can probs use lapp2

or maybe this unit called wisadel heard she's p good

[signal vector]

thorns alter I'd say

borrow him, plop him down and throw his chemical units out to slowly kill everyone

[scarlet fulcrum]

They have tragodia

no need to borrow

[cyan plover]

I suppse he already cleared it since he's no longer inquiring in this channel, but how would he clear with tragodia? S2? I managed to do so with Tragodia S2 + low rarity but it was quite scuffed on my end.

[full terrace]

Funneling on early stage, and then redeployment on certain timing, it will be a safe clear if the timing is executed correctly

I have an almost solo Ling video too, if Tragodia timing is too tight

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not scuffed at all yea

smt wrong with color screen but whatever

[mild fox]

@tired relic @pearl compass
Please no fanart or other unnecesary media in the channel

[neat pumice]

can anyone help me downtown

[light falcon]

I'll see what I can do, not the most knowledgable out there

[neat pumice]

this is my comp and my placement

so far so good but i think it wont last

everyone is e1 i just borrowed wis from support
^kroos alter isnt e1

[light falcon]

tragodia dies first right?

[neat pumice]

havent die yet

on 200/400

[pearl compass]

Looks solid, tho.

[neat pumice]

now on drone npcs

[pearl compass]

Oh yeah

Drone problem.

Um

[light falcon]

I would push SA forward one tile to take the aggro away from trag

[neat pumice]

i think its fine if i use cat to get the thing

[pearl compass]

Can you remove Tequila and put Kroos on top lane?

[neat pumice]

kroos is not e1

[neat pumice]

healers arent e1

[pearl compass]

The 3☆ is.

[neat pumice]

ok

[pearl compass]

And should be enough.

[neat pumice]

back of silence?

[light falcon]

she has the promotion symbol though

[neat pumice]

kroos alte

[light falcon]

wait

right

[neat pumice]

put it behind silence?

or next to silence

the exe is really bad on sustaining

[light falcon]

with wisadel borrow you can probably just

have a healing defender in place instead

more block and self heal

[neat pumice]

everyone died

wisadel no hit drone

[light falcon]

right she needs S3 activated to begin hitting drones

[neat pumice]

brah

[light falcon]

flingers do be

[glass monolith]

Wisadel S3 couldn't read that flingers don't hit air

[light falcon]

her newfound literacy is still under works

[pearl compass]

Too stupid to read.

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5Wj_8VWsAA8akV.gif

[glass monolith]

Also Arknights has random cases of ass wording like Tequila not hitting air, Mlynar hitting air, and only difference in skills is one says "Targets" and other "Enemies"

[austere skiff]

any tips for M8-8?

mephisto enters phase 2 and just

gas bombs everyone

[light falcon]

show me your unit

[somber falcon]

outheal or kill faster

[foggy grove]

control your dmg

or burst healing better

[pearl compass]

Either you have mega super hyper medics to heal that shit easily.

Or you kill him SLOWLY.

Since his DoT can stack up to absurd numbers you physically cannot outheal and lose everyone.

[austere skiff]

https://krooster.com/network/lookup/des

oh alr

would ptilo s2 be better for this stage

than s1

[foggy grove]

ofc

[light falcon]

yeah

[austere skiff]

also

so like

[light falcon]

purposemade to survive stuff like this

[austere skiff]

lem s2 > s3 on this stage then right

cause s3 just triggers the gas a lot right

e1

[somber falcon]

a single e2 ptil is "mega super hyper medic" now?

[austere skiff]

she's not even e2

she's e1

[somber falcon]

yes I'm not saying yours is e2

I'm saying that bar for outhealing is greatly exaggerated

[light falcon]

no sussuro? damn

[austere skiff]

oh alr

would tragodia be

shooting myself in the foot

since i have to kill him slowly and uh

NI procs do the opposite

[somber falcon]

not really

e1 60 ptil outheals just fine

[austere skiff]

does the gas cover the entire map

[light falcon]

s3 you can stop the skill while she's spending ammo to limit the damage

[austere skiff]

or just a radius around him

[somber falcon]

map wide

[austere skiff]

is that sash

[somber falcon]

ye

[austere skiff]

alr

ill try

[austere skiff]

i tried this and it didnt work

sash got obliterated by the enraged possessed soldiers

[somber falcon]

use s2

[austere skiff]

cuora was barely hanging on

im using s2

[austere skiff]

💔 💔

[somber falcon]

like this

[austere skiff]

oh alr

[somber falcon]

because your sa is ironically your best tank

[austere skiff]

sa s2 or s3 i have him on s3

[somber falcon]

s2

[light falcon]

s2 is the tank skill

self heal

[austere skiff]

alr

[somber falcon]

proc ptilo s2 when your ops' hp drops below half

and then just burst after he revives

gracebearer's really helpful in cheesing his cocoon and making him revive with half hp

[pearl compass]

Let him stay at between 0% and 50% cocconed.

So in Phase 2 he will come with 50% HP remaining.

And it's easy to burst him to death.

And DoT immediately stops when he's dead.

[austere skiff]

alr

[glass monolith]

Dot stops when dead is only phase 2 part because phase 1 transition is still "alive"

[austere skiff]

dang that worked pretty well

thanks

[somber falcon]

np, congrats

[unkempt lintel]

anyone log in atm?

do u all get kicked out of nowhere or.... u still alive?

[copper burrow]

I just got kicked off

[unkempt lintel]

understandable its a big problem huh

tnx for ur input good sir

[tired relic]

woops wrong server

[pure orchid]

[austere skiff]

i need help for JT8-2

my main problem is like

talulah obliterating everyone on the left

and the fucking burning breath mechanic

it kills my silence

she's not able to sustain herself

[unkempt lintel]

no way strategy chat ded

oh w8 nvm its just a minute posted

[austere skiff]

ts pmo

[unkempt lintel]

ill entertain you... drop roster

i mean ur eam

team

[austere skiff]

krooster.com/network/lookup/des

hold on

@unkempt lintel

[unkempt lintel]

so u have problem with right side... hmmm lemuen cant handle the right one???

imma try to replicate ur notable ones in ur roster

[austere skiff]

i can handle the right side with lem

its just that talulah's burning breath fuckass thing ends up killing my silence

which leads to lem getting targeted by it

and perishing

[foggy grove]

bait it with frd

[austere skiff]

do i just place down someone like gravel or yato

let talulah burn her

then retreat

oml this fuckass stage

would borrowing a wis work

[unkempt lintel]

able to kill talulah with cat spam and lemu s3(she is modless here but s3m3)

used that fiery tile to proc cat(like deploy and retreat)

and ummm talulah take ages before she walk to the stair

[austere skiff]

ptilo

is that

[unkempt lintel]

she is

[austere skiff]

how do i stop the burning breath from killing trag

[unkempt lintel]

dont need to cast her skill though

[austere skiff]

using ptilo s2 when it gets put on him?

[unkempt lintel]

uhhh i dont rly have problem with trag burning down here... probably just watch ur dep order

[austere skiff]

its usually like

myrtle > sash > retreat myrtle > gbearer > silence > everyone else

[unkempt lintel]

why retreat myrtle?

🥹

is she dying or something?

[austere skiff]

because she gets turned into a burnt chicken nugget

[unkempt lintel]

w8 imma check something

[elder flume]

bait burn first with 1 op

[austere skiff]

someone like

[pearl compass]

You just spam FRD to bait the ignite

[austere skiff]

yato or gravel

[pearl compass]

And immediately retreat.

[unkempt lintel]

how big is her range?

[austere skiff]

whats a FRD

[unkempt lintel]

also yeh u see why i have gravel

[elder flume]

then start setting up and just keep baiting burn with cheap ops every 18s

[pearl compass]

Gravel.

[austere skiff]

oh right fast redeploy

alr

[unkempt lintel]

yep just play around with ur dep order and baits....

that lemuen still catch strays but oh well she ded anyway

the cat spam when talulah stands for eternity actually whittle chunky of hp so lem can do the rest of it

[austere skiff]

why is teq facing left

wouldnt it be better to face him right

[unkempt lintel]

i just want him to also hit enemy on bot

[austere skiff]

ah alr

[unkempt lintel]

but ig if trag can kill the waves there not a problem... the stage is easy anyways when talulah ded

[austere skiff]

alr

ok

jesus christ

holy shit

that was close

a crossbowman almost leaked in

eh whatever its done now

[mystic elbow]

I need a help with this strategy. I don’t know if I’ll make it with the operators I have.

[unkempt lintel]

uhhh

depends on what diff is this

im thinking how u would deal with right side king thought

[austere skiff]

lowk im scared for jt8-3

looking at the map here and it already seems hard

[mystic elbow]

Is right side king strong than left? Should I attack the left first then do on right?

[unkempt lintel]

right side have lower res
left side have lower def

u dont have any dpses drafted?

i dont think underflow and gummy would do something here outside of being meatshields

where is fib when his elitsm is needed smh smh

[cyan plover]

Depending on what’s on your roster it could be a walk in the park.

[worn root]

Use trag s2

[mystic elbow]

OK. To target against who boss should I go for? Right or left?

[unkempt lintel]

can trag stall enuf???

[worn root]

With ines sentry yeh

[unkempt lintel]

should be left.... u have way too much physical dps so right king should be fine

just watch ur deployment order

[smoky blaze]

nomnom fell off
yellow king is high res low def (right)
red king is high def low res (left)
phy on the right, arts on the left

[unkempt lintel]

ahh yeh i suck on determining right and left side until i do the handy shenanigans

im that kind of person yeh

and ig im tired from work...spare me 🥹

[topaz tapir]

tf do I block first

[pearl compass]

You can damage him to trigger his running state.

[smoky blaze]

use roomba to kill the little sh.. fish
Then stand your ground

[topaz tapir]

I didn't have to use the roomba lol
Ines is just that good

[topaz tapir]

Yeah I had to wait for the fish above to stop spawning first

[smoky blaze]

nvm

[topaz tapir]

What was the intended way I beat this

[glass monolith]

Killing enemies (Hell if I know)

Because awkward B line of flowers to blue box I can only assume stage gimmick is rush beacon and burn everyone

[ionic vector]

Just wis it 🐧

[undone herald]

yeah rush beacon and kill the top lane faster than it can kill you

[jade isle]

as a free is5 operator for healers, who would you pick in d15, perfumer or chestnut

[smoky blaze]

I do purestream and sus for stronger heal.

Chestnut hps is horrible. Cant even help you through a chaos.

[jade isle]

you think purestream e2 lvl r7 60 is enough?

[smoky blaze]

Mine did. Along with sus, so.

[jade isle]

okay thank you

[smoky blaze]

Good luck on your run

[astral cosmos]

chestnut has hph (heal per hour)

[tired relic]

purestream so goated

[timid cave]

Trying to beat talulah I have no clue what do I even do this is my squad btw

[tired relic]

what are you dying to or having problem with?

[pearl compass]

You have the Logos E2.

When she dies, press Logos S3 turned on left and remove the fireballs.

[timid cave]

Talulahs igniting my operators and doing massive damage to them and I cannot do anything

I think they are just simply too weak

[tired relic]

you can bait the fire circle

there is a sound cur

[timid cave]

I tried that before but it didn’t work

[tired relic]

you can borrow a strong medic

ng mon3 will do

[narrow pendant]

Or u can shrimply ignore and move on

Return later

[tired relic]

erm

it is doable

very much

i am sleepy, you can take over fredi

[narrow pendant]

Nuh uh

You started you finish

[tired relic]

try with ng and let's see

[signal vector]

Logos s3 exists

Use it

[timid cave]

I know but I was talking mostly about her igniting my operators then just instant killing em

That part is HARD ASF

[fringe solstice]

You can use saria s1 and medics to heal through it. The burn targets two so make sure last deployed are close to saria or (saria herself)

[timid cave]

Whats sarias best skill

[void terrace]

Damn

Nasti's new block ok cn

Really brings back ifrit huh

Suddenly every lane is an ifrit lane....

[timid cave]

Many of her skills are kinda good like she has the best amount of skills imo

All of her skills are amazing ngl

[void terrace]

S1 is her most dependable general skill

[fringe solstice]

s1 for 99% of content, s3 is for arts buff/debuff gang, s2 is outclass now, but it is fine for slow, large area heal.

[void terrace]

S2 is if you are in a more relaxed setting and just want to not care about healing

[timid cave]

Alright I’ll go with S1

It says at it heals at 50% hp so I’m a little worried if my operators who are ignited die before she can heal

[fringe solstice]

That's the good thing about it. It isn't wasted if they lose a little hp

m1 is nice for 3 charges if you want

[timid cave]

I did look at my medics I use ptilopsis but I could also try to build perfumer or lumen maybe both and reed because like obviously reed yk

[timid cave]

Oh fr

Sweet

[mystic elbow]

How I suppose to attack the ball

😮‍💨

I’m stuck there. Couldn’t figure out how to get attack them

[modern plover]

so theres a macine in the middle, it can be overcharged
if you active it when its overcharged, you have 10 seconds window to damage it

[mystic elbow]

Nevermind. I lost…

[modern plover]

this case is only true for gardener
if the stage is name "sentinel", it will only give you 5 seconds instead

[mystic elbow]

I’ll try again. I never play this map before. It’s all new to me. 😮‍💨

[modern plover]

it will -30 when the whole map is purple like you see

[fringe solstice]

One thing to note you need to heal the burn and the arts damage cross. This is why the fast redeploy is recommended, since it is a lot of damage. Don't put operators next to each other, in range of medics and you will be fine I think

[timid cave]

Ok so I guess I just gotta build executioners

[modern plover]

you can just keep them e0 for reduced dp cost

[timid cave]

Oh that does make sense yeah I’ll do that

[fringe solstice]

well just e1 gravel for s2 and base skill but I'm sure e0 works

[timid cave]

Why does myrtles skill look like its becoming longer to activate am I stupid

It goes from 8 to 13

[teal moon]

you're reading it wrongly. 8 to 13 is the inital sp

[timid cave]

Oh

[teal moon]

31 to 22 is the total sp cost

[timid cave]

Bro I’m a moron

[teal moon]

the duration is always 8 s

[timid cave]

I somehow after all this time didn’t realize the icons correctly

[undone herald]

given enough resources to raise another two 4*s to 1E60 S7, maybe three if I really buckle down and grind IS2 most of the day, do you think BP-EX-8 challenge mode is winnable with this roster + a carry support unit or will I have to go diving for someone out of the recruitment/headhunting pool to make it work?

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/figmentoforigin

In particular I think I might need a better guardian defender than Spot, since his healing cooldown isn't lining up with when I'm needing it.

[foggy grove]

there is not much need for tanking with trag
#help message

[fringe solstice]

I decided to give it a try and it worked for the most part. This is logos s3, which can stop the projectiles. I was using wisadel in logos spot for most of the stage. So broken . Exu2 is to help. I think if I clean up the timings it should work. I was mainly testing positioning. I forgot to bring amiya e2 to block middle lane so I can cycle gravel. I used silence and jess alter since I don't have e2 santa or e2 gavial.

[undone herald]

who's that on the platform next to Myrtle in that screenshot?

[fringe solstice]

I think the best timing is to use wisadel to lower boss hp to around 20%. Then swap for logos. Use logos s3 when boss hp is low. Redeploy wisadel and place exu2 to defeat phase 2.

[fringe solstice]

ansel 3 star medic

[undone herald]

not that platform, the one on right side

[fringe solstice]

oh logos

[uncut lark]

Anyone here got a strategy for SN-10?

[bitter halo]

Doesnt wisadel deal with the boss

its the evolving fish right

[worn root]

yeh

just burst the fucker

[bitter halo]

ya and theres also the red buff thingy that spawn in the map

i forgot what it does but look out for it

[uncut lark]

I tried Wis'adel but then the other enemies get through the point.

[bitter halo]

[uncut lark]

I have to manage both the boss and the smaller enemies.

But in any cases, I'm just gonna save SN-10 for later. I'm currently trying to pass 7-9 without any support units.

But I keep getting rushed because not enough damage.

[bitter halo]

Do you not have tragodia or exu

[fringe solstice]

I feel like every boss stage is boss + deal with smaller enemies

[slender elbow]

@uncut lark

[uncut lark]

Is there an order that I place them in?