#strategy

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lofty stag
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Save em

tiny lava
scarlet mortar
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you'll vaporize those rocks to level your ops anw

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dw abt it

lofty stag
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Ur ops will need them the more you upgrade

tiny lava
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I see

lofty stag
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This felt like a House episode ngl

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Anywho the next best banner you should pull on is mon3tr

lofty stag
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Yes

tiny lava
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What the abilities?

ionic zinc
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you can check help pins for general pull prio

ionic zinc
tiny lava
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Heallskksakajs

ionic zinc
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s2 boosts asped given and s3 is dps true damage

lofty stag
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Bros keyboard just died

tiny lava
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Is the mon3tr roll the same time as exuslter?

lofty stag
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Nope she’s earlier

maiden hound
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before

ionic zinc
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before but yeah the good banners are basically right next to each other

night osprey
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What the hell is this IfritLaugh HellaKek

rugged lava
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it s good strat bruuh. it s a double spark. yellow cert + headhunt parametric

lofty stag
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Except you miss out on other good ops

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Also parametric aren’t really that efficient

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Hell if you have a good chunk of spark left over

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You’d rather just buy the 5 star for gold certs

scarlet fulcrum
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She said Hyaku pacento 😭, simp song dang it

rugged lava
lofty stag
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That’s not what I mean

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I’m referring to spark currency

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If you have >75 spark

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Ur better off buying that 5 star

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For extra gold certs

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Since it’s not effienct for u to use them on mats later

rapid junco
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😭

scarlet fulcrum
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possessive girl 😭

rich plover
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Managed to do it, had to cycle between defenders tho

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Thanks again @full terrace, you da goat

celest bluff
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I have 3 hours left to do EX and S stage

rugged lava
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then what r u waiting for. clear it

wicked minnow
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1 year till event rerun SoraWow

rugged lava
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ex mode cm can be done later

full terrace
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Reminder: event ends in 2 hours 11 mins

rapid junco
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I'm on overtime Atomed

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Kill me

rich plover
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Not yet

limpid ore
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not yet

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there is

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graveyard shift

celest bluff
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I am not doing it

glass monolith
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Which stage if not a secret?

celest bluff
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what me?

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All

limpid ore
still vessel
full terrace
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11 minutes til event is gone, RIP for those who havent finished it

limpid ore
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9

maiden hound
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9

elder flume
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why is ten unimportant

maiden hound
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7

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3

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1

glass monolith
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Why you have 3 instead 4 on numpad?

limpid ore
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-1

vocal leaf
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so who’s pulling for nowell? SoraWow

maiden hound
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-5

glass monolith
vocal leaf
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you actually pulling for ente in this 2025 economy ExuStare

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i could have enough op to buy shu skin after clearing event, but i’m not sure if i want it

glass monolith
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I have Wisadel, Ascalon, Mlynar, Ulp. There is nothing this game can scare me with except spam of invisible enemies because IneshaterXXX

vocal leaf
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i see, i mostly want exia/lemuen because i like sankta, and tragodia is something i don’t want to miss

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have you noticed that since eben we always close the year with a male operator? ExeNaruhodo

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eben > exalt > ulpi > tragodia SoraWow

maiden hound
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leizi?

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oh wait tfn

glass monolith
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Leizi is operator so you fit 50% of query HellaKek

glass monolith
compact sorrel
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this stage is driving me crazy 😞

scarlet mortar
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what's your roster?

glass monolith
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Don't you love escort mission in tower defense game DocSmile

compact sorrel
scarlet mortar
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your 4*s?

full terrace
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Lappcaster for an easy life

scarlet mortar
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eh SA + eyja would do

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though borrowing is easier

compact sorrel
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ah so ok I'll attempt again with those three

scarlet mortar
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a gravel would be ideal for baiting attacks

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considering you didn't raise her you might want to check the /baseskills command in #bot-spam

maiden hound
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broca!?

scarlet mortar
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baited by abs ig

compact sorrel
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lol old acc and i was excited for my 6 star🥹🥹🥹

full terrace
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You will automatically unlock the secret ending following that

compact sorrel
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ty alllll

full terrace
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Iirc the condition is that Talulah needs to survive with more than half HP

maiden hound
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you're welcome

scarlet mortar
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yh

compact sorrel
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YIPPIE

maiden hound
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your welfrom

vocal leaf
glass monolith
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Screw that who will bother to keep track if that LappDumb

vocal leaf
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i did laiossmile

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i could also add that the last 3 has been skade boys SkadiHug

lilac steppe
full terrace
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There are 4

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To unlock Guardmiya

lilac steppe
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Oh, i already pass that. Maybe i already did the secret ending.. ahah

lilac steppe
elder flume
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If you see EG stages under them then all good

lilac steppe
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Does the red line means ive done it?

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Oya, i got the EG stages

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Thx!

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Just over excited.. i thought i have more things to do... a bit bored waiting for new event, and gambling

scarlet mortar
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if the EG isn't shown you haven't gotten the hidden condition

lilac steppe
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I got eg 3 and 4, but not 1 & 2.. whats wrong with my eyes... thx mate

full terrace
narrow pendant
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Its for the secret cgs and 1 op

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Especially the final one

glass monolith
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I love final EG, 2 options, one just ends EG, other does exposition dump DocSmile

tiny lava
lilac steppe
tiny lava
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Which base set up is better?

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243 or 252?

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I use 243

lilac steppe
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252

tiny lava
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252

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Should I have 2 exp and 3 producing gold?

narrow pendant
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2 exp 2 gold and 1 flex, whichever of the two u need more

haughty flower
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If you have proviso chances are you'll be stuck on 3 gold 2 exp for a while until you find a good factory worker lineup, though

full terrace
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Then the rest is Battle Records

tiny lava
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For so reason it says this

full terrace
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Also question like this goes to #help

maiden hound
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no powet

tiny lava
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Works the best

haughty flower
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Check #r-i-i-c pins for the team combo sheets

haughty flower
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@obtuse tangle #strategy message
The help chat's about to implode so I'll just link it here.
It's overcomplicated in the video but it explains the concept really well. tldr is you block a unit while they're standing in a tile, to push their attack range away while still letting your ranged ops hit them when they shouldn't be able to.

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It's useful for frostnova because she has an aoe attack that, when block shifted, will just barely not hit your ranged ops and healers.

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You could also just borrow a 6 star and win because a lot of modern 6 stars will overkill old bosses, but if you feel that's kinda cheap maybe give the video a watch.

wicked minnow
wicked minnow
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ok just rewatched it. It's like just not good explanation like at all

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uhhhh

wicked minnow
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1st. Enemy range is circular not square shaped

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2nd hitboxes are generally circular some are box like but still

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3rd there is no activation/deactivation range

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There's just hitboxes

scarlet mortar
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oh hey it's that vid

wicked minnow
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4th he doesnt fully explain the inner unit hitbox and outter blocking circle well

scarlet mortar
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i think we went through this before

wicked minnow
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yeah we did

scarlet mortar
wicked minnow
# obtuse tangle Why?

main thing his explanation gets wrong is the activation range. You can actually push units by blocking them into someone's range and they can end up shooting them

obtuse tangle
wicked minnow
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no she doesnt have the range for it

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her range is circular

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It doesnt reach kroos regardless

obtuse tangle
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I see

wicked minnow
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but kroos cna hit her because her range is like entire tiles

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our units range is generally based on tiles. Enemies usually use circles based on their center

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this is just a generaliziation

obtuse tangle
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Ohhh..

wicked minnow
# obtuse tangle Ohhh..

the attatched mp4 is blockshifting from the right and block shifting from the left both working for frostnova and kroos is able to hit in both circumstances.

also some blockshifting from a more reliable source: https://youtu.be/06bws9PRXS0?feature=shared&t=60 from 1:00 till 1:37 is all you really need to know

the idea is when an enemy is pushed by the inner circle or the hitbox of an operator, they arent pushed completely out of the tile so a part of the enemy's hitbox is still within that tile the enemy is blocked on and another part is within the tile they are pushed towards. this means they could be on 2 seperate tiles at the same time (also called splitboxing).

sometimes you are able to purposefully block-shift enemies pushing them into holes but that's quite a bit more complicated and not needed and has to do with the center of an enemy generally being used to calculate which tile they are on

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you can kinda play arknights and not really go too in depth in these topics or every really have to learn about them but splitboxing in general is quite a bit of fun

obtuse tangle
full terrace
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Splitboxing is quite staple in general yeh

obtuse tangle
full terrace
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When you are experienced enough, there will come a time when you can splitbox without the need to blockshift

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Under certain context*

obtuse tangle
wicked minnow
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i mean on some maps it just kinda happens that an enemy hitbox is on 4 tiles because they are moving diagonally

obtuse tangle
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Cool..

full terrace
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For example, in the most recent OR event, Yu was abused to teleport a group of enemies when they are "barely" walking outside the tile they are on, as you can see his range did not even cover the tile those group of enemies are standing on

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This is an advance application of splitboxing, you'll learn it as you play more

obtuse tangle
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Oh yeah I saw this one..it looked hard to time

full terrace
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If you are already comfy splitboxing stuff, it will come naturally to you, but the general principle is that

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The enemy's shadow

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Is their real position

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It's not their sprite, it's their shadow

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When you see their shadow is in-between 2 tiles, you can block from either tile and you can perform an attack on either tile

obtuse tangle
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Ohh..I didn't even notice the shadows before..thanks for making the guides btw..

full terrace
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You are welcome. If you have other questions or if you are stuck on certain stage, feel free to drop this channel a visit, there are plenty people willing to help.

obtuse tangle
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Okayy..btw why do I see most video's pause or open the operator details screen..to get timing ryt?

full terrace
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For the "operator details screen", it's to slow down the game even more, below that 1x. This is done usually to get the timing right yes, but it's also a "pause" to buy you time to assess the overall battlefield situation, especially when you are holding multiple lanes and you need to pay attention to all of them.

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As for the "pause", it's usually used to optimally deploy a unit without wasting even a fraction of second

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Coz in some situation, when you deploy 1 sec faster vs 1 sec late, it can dramatically alter the flow of battle

full terrace
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In Mobile, it buys you a bit of time for your reaction speed

obtuse tangle
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Okay thanks

haughty flower
# wicked minnow it doesnt explain it fully accurate but good enough

If someone makes an infographic I'll post it instead, but for now imo that video's good enough since eventually the circle is going to hit an op in a tile or it won't-the product is binary. The effective enemy attack range thus ends up being able to be represented by what tiles the attack hits from their position, so while it's misleading it's good enough.
You're right about activation though, that's a bit misleading.

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I'm gonna be honest SG's made 0 sense to me as a newbie

full terrace
regal frost
full terrace
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No I mean the Burn Burst on these shielders

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Hella fun

haughty flower
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That was CM?

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Bit surprised they shields keeled over that quick to reedic even + yu

safe stag
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new event is impossible lol

haughty flower
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?

safe stag
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See You Soon event

narrow pendant
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What about it is impossible

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Its a vignette event, a mini event

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Very easy, very simple

haughty flower
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Simole

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Bery

narrow pendant
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Stfu

haughty flower
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Simoly put that's bery rude of you

narrow pendant
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Yep, see you on the ignore list, pookie

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🫡

haughty flower
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🥹

full terrace
regal frost
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also did you pull or is that support?

haughty flower
regal frost
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ohh

haughty flower
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S-1 was a fun stage.

full terrace
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Cut my loss

regal frost
full terrace
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Tbf I didnt even raise Exealt

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I'm not a fan of unhealable units

worthy gorge
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these fucks keep resurrecting.. gotta read AGAIN...

full terrace
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Altar. Destroy.

glass monolith
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PUZZLE S2 FTW

haughty flower
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He cooked

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I ain't eating tho

obtuse shale
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Guys

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What was the IS3 meta again RedOmegaLul

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I forgot everything

dark mantle
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not mom wis
don't do that

full terrace
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Bro I havent touch IS3 in like a year 😂

glass monolith
glass monolith
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And don't go Crownslayer with all stun damage relics into ending 4 (WHO MADE IT ENTIRELY STUN IMMUNE?)

full terrace
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And some Elemental Injury Recovery units maybe

dark mantle
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it's generally:
wisadel
rosmontis
kal
april
ela
weedy
ange
nymph

full terrace
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I cant speak for d16~d18 tho

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I only played d15 so far

full terrace
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For Stingrays

obtuse shale
brisk surge
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minus deserved it anyways

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building crownslayer

dark mantle
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krooster is fine ya
april works because of synergy with ros
especially if she gets metastatic

obtuse shale
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Makes sense.

brisk surge
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doesnt april need e2

glass monolith
dark mantle
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yeah she needs e2 + mod 3

obtuse shale
dark mantle
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she does zero damage so masteries not needed

brisk surge
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dont congratulate realmad

still vessel
brisk surge
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too many

glass monolith
still vessel
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30 too many

glass monolith
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#HaveMetaCanAfford

still vessel
full terrace
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Tbh

haughty flower
full terrace
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I want her for the hit count

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For hit count based enemies

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But its whatever

obtuse shale
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Yeah I'd pull too sadly, not enough pulls

glass monolith
haughty flower
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Real

full terrace
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I did 22 and didnt get her, hit count unit is nice but its not mandatory

still vessel
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you should friend me minus so i can yoink that ente

full terrace
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So I cut my loss

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I offrate her in Exu banner trust

glass monolith
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I can welcome Ros because it was [New]. Virtuosa (And Chalter) just re-invites herself into my roster against my concern

limber fox
still vessel
full terrace
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Ulpiless behavior

still vessel
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i need ulpi

full terrace
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No thank you I have Ulpi

brisk surge
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when is arf gonna add me on main

full terrace
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You wanna? I can rite now

limber fox
full terrace
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Lemme delete someone real quick

limber fox
lofty stag
full terrace
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For my main account? No clue trading or inactive for days 😂

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I just purged 40 people

full terrace
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Probably need my Support Units

bitter zealot
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Do I need to E2 and Module X Lvl 3 Skadi Guard if I already have Texalter?

full terrace
lofty stag
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Pretty sure trag will full sweep tho

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Can’t wait for him

still vessel
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after using yu this must be how people felt when ulpi first released just statchecking everything and watching them all explode.

full terrace
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What did we get after Ulpi again? I remember the first time he was being useful was during Pepe event

vocal leaf
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playing is3 again KalDisgust

full terrace
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Right that was what I remember

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Tbh I'm excited about IS3, just a bit 😂

vocal leaf
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even rerolling the shop is rng

full terrace
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I have no motivation for IS5 rite now

still vessel
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fuck is3

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why i gotta roll a dice to grab a collectible

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once i hit d18 im never touching it again

full terrace
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Screams like skill issue to me 😏

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I miss IS3 tbh, kinda

signal lichen
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just high roll harder LappDumb

vocal leaf
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se 8 cm is kinda hard

lofty stag
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No ur just bad

vocal leaf
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how logos is not insta killing the bloodborn HellaKek

vocal leaf
spark crow
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Can you guys see the operator you used to clear stage SE 8, I'm still stuck on stage SE8

lofty stag
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Idk how helpful that’d be

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I’m literally using like max units and shit

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And it obv isn’t optimized

vocal leaf
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i did male only clear, i doubt i would be helpful ReedBean

spark crow
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Just for reference

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I still need guidance in determining the team

lofty stag
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Let’s call in backup

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@full terrace

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We need ur expertise again

vocal leaf
lofty stag
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Yes what ops are you using

spark crow
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Wisadel logos lapland alter

vocal leaf
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is that all?

lofty stag
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Surely not

spark crow
lofty stag
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Dot/fast attacking units help a lot for this stage

spark crow
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That's all I've just built

vocal leaf
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did you already clear normal?

spark crow
green fulcrum
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Can you guys give me some tips on fighting SE-8? I want to move the bomb near the alter but I keep getting cock-block by the bone sarkaz and stop by the stupid meat again and again. And those stupid meat also keep running into my base and it's really hard to kill

bitter halo
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i wont be clearing this anytime soon BPTiredofThis

lofty stag
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Both s1 and s2

spark crow
bitter halo
spark crow
vocal leaf
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my harold would be your mulberry

bitter halo
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he uses gavial for the teapots i see IreneGasp . I was using her to clear the wave instead

vocal leaf
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i used s3

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deployed him at the beginning in wis tile and waited for the shieldguard to come, when he shows up i activated the skill, then when it was over i swapped to wis

wary shuttle
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is there a tornado spot to cheese se-6

vocal leaf
spark crow
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Cm?

vocal leaf
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challenge mode

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i just was going to recommend to borrow virtuosa RedOmegaLul

spark crow
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Sanity is gone

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🥲

vocal leaf
# spark crow Not yet, try this afternoon at the latest

oh i see, then try that later, virtuosa s3, but don’t do anything on top side, it’s better to focus on bottom side, once the flamecaster starts moving you could deploy virtuosa and activate her skill. Thorns should be behind gummy btw, that was a mistake, I recommend putting 3 block defenders there

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defenders can be removed after the two altar at the bottom are destroyed

spark crow
vocal leaf
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yeah it’s probably because it’s better to not do anything early in that part

spark crow
vocal leaf
spark crow
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Does Virtuosa use modules? If so, I'll look for it once

sly drift
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Thank god it's not sanguinarch

brisk surge
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i hate t his stage realmad

lofty stag
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I loved this stage ya

brisk surge
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i hate rbp realmad

lofty stag
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I am indifferent to max SoraWow

still vessel
vocal leaf
brisk surge
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but its quite shit with defenders

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i had to pull out yu s3 with reed s3

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not enough dp to push payload early i had to kill spines with elemental

still vessel
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yeah its the fact that you have to deploy everyone almost instantly

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i took surfer + myrtle

brisk surge
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yeah and the fact that defenders are like 25+ is so bum

still vessel
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lol

spark crow
brisk surge
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new player

timber river
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Am I missing a mechanic somewhere? These stupid things keep duplicating (?) themselves I think as soon as they're blocked for the first time and I can't find a single thing anywhere that says they do Bnuuy

brisk surge
brisk surge
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it sends out waves to revive the spikes

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so infinite respawn unless you play the mechanic

vocal leaf
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my virtuosa has no skin tho i was poor back then HellaKek

gritty tide
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What's the best team I can make with these characters, for just clearing campaign

timber river
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I thought they're supposed to respawn at the altar because that's what the spikey thing's description says 😭

brisk surge
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it does

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they respawn as slimes and the come back

spark crow
brisk surge
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pretty sure the stage just spawns more as it goes on

timber river
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...I swear they split upon being blocked let me just sanity check myself rq SkadiDaijoubu

brisk surge
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thats why you think its duplicating

still vessel
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every time you see the red wave across the stage is when they duplicate

brisk surge
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ah there you go

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me when i didnt read

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😏

still vessel
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how far wisadel has taken players smh

spark crow
brisk surge
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you think i can kill anything with defenders

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whats t he point

still vessel
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ik you didnt do it with defenders lol, its dps check early on

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unless you had hoshi2 or sum

brisk surge
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also like

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when i played ch12 wis wasnt even out

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or was it 11

still vessel
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i did ch12 wisless too

brisk surge
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i dont remember

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was it 10

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gg

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im cooked

still vessel
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ong you are

scarlet mortar
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the one with the spikes was ch13

still vessel
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unc

brisk surge
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I got all of it wrong

scarlet mortar
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wis is ch14

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holy L

brisk surge
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me when i empty my revolver and missed all my targets

vocal leaf
spark crow
vocal leaf
brisk surge
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so cute and wholesome

spark crow
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I was very helped

still vessel
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strategy being based as always

brisk surge
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wrong

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myon

still vessel
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why'd you remind me

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🥹

vocal leaf
graceful bear
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Ulpipi regaining health when fighting 3 chimeras is so funny

tender tapir
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Seeking guidance for jt8-3

bitter halo
bitter halo
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wait really ur not gonna loop

limpid ore
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notice you have roadblock

brisk surge
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real ones just block

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no road

limpid ore
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and also the altar that you can deploy to make the twister move

glass monolith
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Sus box SoraWow

neat mantle
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Fuck SE-8 man that shit was laggy asf

narrow pendant
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Do not fuck a stage pls

glass monolith
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If only SE had EX stages

limpid ore
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well, there is IS-EX-#

glass monolith
sly drift
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I forgor how to play this shi

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Immediately encountered the most loved map RedOmegaLul

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First time touching IS#3 after a while and get the worst possible run already

full terrace
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Do you guys want some SE guides? I can make some real quick, the stages are pretty simple

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I thought Vignette was easy enough everyone can figure it out

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But if many people are struggling I can make some guides for reference

vocal leaf
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normal one is easy, but the cm you can get easily overwhelmed

void terrace
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Well

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Ente isnt great

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But her skill has such a low cooldown

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Honestly shes not bad

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With support she can tank some bosses even

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How does her hp steal work tho is it permenant?

glass monolith
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Seems to be "permanent" while she deployed

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And S2 hits add HP RedOmegaLul

void terrace
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Yeet

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If only her heal was % based

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I mean Yu and amiya help a little with % based heal

sly drift
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How long until HG release module that directly affect skills rather than talent.

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Shining second mod almost did it but not quite

limpid ore
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nightmare module

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but that's it

maiden hound
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isn't that because talent is related to skill

elder flume
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Weirdge

obtuse shale
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I died from a cringe F4 emergency on the first try.

limber fox
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THIS LEVEL IS OUTRAGEOUS

glass monolith
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Sir you have Wisadel (Who can't see top side lmao

limber fox
sly drift
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Ughh..

sly drift
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Mechanical menace Emergency or Out of control normal chat? Which one

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Ffs both disgusting

limber fox
sly drift
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Yea.. but emergency with exponential enemy stats lmao

glass monolith
limber fox
wicked minnow
limber fox
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I leaked all the remaing 2 top spiders tho

wicked minnow
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uhhh you seemed to have learnt something at least ChenShrug

wicked minnow
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i hate the pompeii appearance in floor 3 more personally

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oh wait that's f4

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damn

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huhhhhhh

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that's f4?

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i was wondering why it usually felt ass to play

limber fox
glass monolith
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Man sound track of stages is so cool.... Also I assume they will force chapter 12 gimmick when they used chapter 12 blocks instead you know any other destructible blocks HellaKek

graceful bear
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Holy fuck, SE-7 and SE-8 are so unfriendly for trust farming

scarlet mortar
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you aren't supposed to be farming vignettes

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they have lower efficiency than story stages

vocal leaf
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in my old days i used to struggle in this stage when i didn’t have a bait for the yeti archers BPCozy

void terrace
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Is ange's is mod good?

south spindle
full terrace
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For SE-8, Ethan-May-Humus are bombs mover minisquad, Humus is also helping Cuora blocking and cycling the bloodworms a bit

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Susurro-Gavial-Cuora are stall minisquad, so if the guide user has some dps just use that dps unit and blast the enemies

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There is no need to stall

rapid junco
rapid junco
grand pumice
sly drift
#

It's not even 18 yet RosChill

scarlet fulcrum
rapid junco
scarlet fulcrum
elder flume
#

Roberta kina shuts Carmen down

#

just reapplying device

azure roost
#

@scarlet fulcrum did you pull?

scarlet fulcrum
#

Nope, no reason to

azure roost
#

saving for?

scarlet fulcrum
#

necrass for fun

scarlet fulcrum
#

midnight jungle
#

which one should i bring to elite 2?

south spindle
midnight jungle
south spindle
#

Dossoles Holiday you just need to beat like 6 stages, through DH-5 tho hard for a newbie, you can borrow operators or use the guide I have since its actually clearable with level 1 operators

fallen kindle
maiden hound
fallen kindle
#

or

maiden hound
#

oh no! skips to ch9 from 3-8

fallen kindle
#

Otherwise you will waste a lot of resources and time

maiden hound
#

it's like 5 days of base prod in lmd + resources, better off levelling better carries

ionic zinc
#

its not that bad plus you can just skip that stage entirely to the next chap anyways

fallen kindle
#

still amiya

maiden hound
#

🥀

fallen kindle
#

Her third skill、 have real damage

maiden hound
#

cliffheart s2 and ce s2 have that too. it's not special

ionic zinc
#

amiya is still shit 🥀

maiden hound
#

besides you can just have more ATK than your enemy's DEF if running phys

rapid junco
fallen kindle
#

fine

#

wait me

maiden hound
#

she's fine with the medic form yeah

fallen kindle
#

yes

rapid junco
ionic zinc
#

yeah, too bad medic amiya is basically near the end of the campaign where you'd have an actual squad alr and you dont rly need her 🥀

maiden hound
#

infact you should do kjera first e2 instead!

fallen kindle
maiden hound
#

Look, monseiur, I have an E2 50 Amiya too

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But it was after I did a fully fledged, rounded-out squad

fallen kindle
#

but she is a good choice to new

rapid junco
#

No skinExuHyperStare Atomed

ionic zinc
rapid junco
#

It's using po smh

maiden hound
#

maybe if i was around in ch14 release I'd shill her medic form DocSmile

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oh wait newbies doesn't even get the ticket until path of life

fallen kindle
#

14-18

maiden hound
#

loud incorrect buzzer

fallen kindle
#

I like him more

maiden hound
#

hey wait, cn player! you don't get to flex him just because we filthy casual en player didn't get him

fallen kindle
#

😛

#

him too

rapid junco
#

Cn player without GL amiyi skin

#

A fraud

#

Tbh, I don't even know why I join this shit conversation

fallen kindle
rapid junco
#

In my honest opinion.
Idc about you to begin with so what ever

fallen kindle
#

i know

#

but i like phantom more

#

qwq

timid nacelle
#

tf Bnuuy

maiden hound
#

just folks strokin it. move on

still vessel
scarlet fulcrum
#

Also skipped amoyai skin, can relate tho

#

Mod9 m21 but no skin :sadge:

rapid junco
#

Wtf kirn also a fraud

scarlet fulcrum
#

too much into story bro, cant move on. also different artist smh

rapid junco
#

But bnnuy in violin case

void terrace
#

Hmm thoughts on ente as an IS opener? Gave her a little spin and her s2 is surprisingly strong on floors 1 and 2

#

But like the rest of the reapers she struggles hard on higher floors

narrow pendant
#

Well, shes a reaper

#

She basicaly has 0 chance in IS

#

Fedex hadnt had any outside of pre-rework is2 ed2
And ente is him but worse, so..

void terrace
#

Fair

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She does ignore damage reduction somewhat

#

But to set her up its a nightmare

narrow pendant
#

Yea she does, partially
But her own dmg isnt great

wicked minnow
#

do IS bosses have DR tho

narrow pendant
#

She often struggles with our normal event enemies and whatnot

#

And IS enemies..

wicked minnow
#

I cant think of any off the top of my head

narrow pendant
maiden hound
#

theresei

narrow pendant
wicked minnow
#

oh right ReedBean

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Does she bypass dodge?

narrow pendant
#

Yea

wicked minnow
#

Oh that could possibly be nice for phantom

narrow pendant
#

Goodluck with that

wicked minnow
#

ok bruh

void terrace
#

As long as she still has the candle

#

If you buff her enough maybe

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Also she works with yu s3 very well. She can trigger his burn caus she does arts

#

Not the best combo but it gives her some healing

wicked minnow
#

she can only deal 60% of his hp regardless so it's ReedBean

void terrace
#

Rip

#

Pozy time

#

Ignore dodge things

wicked minnow
#

apparently that's still what people use

void terrace
#

If the wheel aimf broken dont fix it

trim monolith
#

any tips for 13-21 adverse?

scarlet fulcrum
#

The simple way, just timing carts to remove DR then burst

trim monolith
#

so hard to sustain haha

scarlet fulcrum
#

The only matter part is managing swarm of trash. Once u remove DR u can dps him

full terrace
#

Needa destroy altars with it, and time it so that it collide with the boss to remove his DR

glass monolith
#

(Stalls boss with Quartz because i can't time shiet) "Standing here i realize..."

full terrace
#

Once DR is gone its the usual dps fest

scarlet fulcrum
#

So yea if u have ulpianus u can brainded it ig

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Boss aura also buff to him

wicked minnow
full terrace
#

With Ulpi yah

#

He counters Chapter 13 hard, even H13-4

wary wing
#

Yu + Lapp Is funny for ch13

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cuz she bursts the crystals with burn

#

so you bypass half the mechanics

ionic zinc
#

global warming works on a lot of stuff

scarlet fulcrum
#

welp gg also notbad for carts, because it has taunt

full terrace
#

Drone casters are generally good for the bombs coz their drones can leave their attack range

glass monolith
#

Laugh in Minimalist

slate fossil
#

@astral cosmos

wicked minnow
#

:despair:

astral cosmos
#

-# what have i done

congrats woooooooo based FlameHappy FlameHappy

full terrace
#

😂😂

rapid junco
#

Can we put rechord on fire now?

maiden hound
#

life or bath for rechord

glass monolith
#

Random BS go BPCozy

full terrace
#

This is my first time running Wisadel in this IS, man.. she is fun 😂

waxen dagger
#

brute forcing Blood Ambers is so funny

void terrace
#

Hmm ente s2 targets last deployed op right

#

So her only use case is to buff texalter maybe? 🫠🫠🫠

#

I see it can also work on summons like nightingale cage allowing her to just chop things across the map

elder flume
#

You can use CS S3 for uninterrupted 16s

#

Or Contrail to make it hit air

dense geyser
#

Dawg, help me defeat patriot

full terrace
#

Which Patriot

dense geyser
#

Chapter 7

full terrace
#

Do you want a strat or a solution?

dense geyser
#

Solution

full terrace
#

Borrow Wisadel and shoot him

dense geyser
#

Understandable.

dense geyser
#

Thank you, may you get Exusiai Alter.

lofty stag
#

Arf are you gonna work on chap 9+ vids during ccb?

full terrace
#

I'm gonna work on them soon yeah

#

My issue right now is that I'm super busy irl

lofty stag
#

Fair

full terrace
#

Until around mid-September

ashen pewter
#

Are there any list of must build units (including lower rarities) for IS?

full terrace
#

No people hate tierlists, but you can ask around in #help

#

For inputs I mean

#

Which IS we are talking about again

rapid junco
#

ask it at help for more hate answer!!

bitter halo
#

tin man is great for is5 but its coming to an end soon.

rapid junco
#

bro should ask it directly to is-station, they more competent

south spindle
#

Depends if bro is into masochism

rapid junco
#

x'ed its so joever, spaming cock joke now

full terrace
#

That channel is in the "general chats" category, bro is looking for help

south spindle
#

If it’s a D18 min maxer

#

They are a masochist

#

Send them to the station

#

Actually better yet just send them to the IS server

full terrace
#

So its better to direct him to #help because thats a help category

south spindle
#

If they’re not o think strategy is fine

rapid junco
#

they so changed wtf

south spindle
#

Is station is a general channel

#

They allowed to goon on there

wheat arch
#

Facts

thin bear
#

theres an is server??? omg

sly drift
#

I'm filtered. It's so over chat

scarlet mortar
#

filtered how

#

are you doing ente-less or sth

sly drift
#

Nah.. it just that the premade squad use Manticore instead of Ethan for those cars like wtf

#

And I forgot that ente S3 is +1 range lmao

scarlet mortar
#

they take a billion loops around the thing

#

stage basically needed you to click ente enough times

#

as one does

sly drift
#

This stage prove just how ass S3 ente actually is.

#

The previous S2 practice stage is nice. Just like how nice her S2 is

steel prairie
#

besides Wis... which Ops is the most efficient at killing those motherships thingy ?

sly drift
#

Reed

steel prairie
#

wait fr ?

still vessel
#

reedalt the medic

sly drift
#

Why not lmao.. fireworks

steel prairie
#

fair point

#

lol

still vessel
#

chain explosions does wonders against a bunch of low hp mobs

steel prairie
#

but the mothership has pretty high hp tho no ? or you use those drones against itself ?

sly drift
#

Any good *6 works against them actually. It's not like this is ccb1 or sth

still vessel
#

wis only hits air on skill, use an actual anti air sniper or caster.

scarlet mortar
#

sure she explodes them onskill, but then another wave comes and she's gone

#

designated marksmen shill

steel prairie
#

the A+ hp is what really pisses me off

still vessel
#

don't you have lappalter, she quite literally wipes a lot of these story stages.

steel prairie
#

llike wtf ?

steel prairie
still vessel
#

it would be better, but she does enough dmg to ignore, same as logos.

scarlet mortar
#

i mean lapp has high total damage

#

works well enough

#

if it works it works, as they say

sly drift
scarlet mortar
#

i used jess2 against them so CeobeConfused

steel prairie
scarlet mortar
#

the bar for total damage isn't that high

steel prairie
#

lots of anxiety attacks using him lmao

sly drift
steel prairie
#

and hold on the squad changed alot

#

I hate the fukin dp cap on adverse as well

scarlet mortar
#

yh my 12-19 AE was just jess2 mlynar skalter

#

wait was it 19 or 17

#

stage with DP down 2.5

sly drift
#

19

steel prairie
#

the starting dp cap is 14 (wtf ?)

scarlet mortar
scarlet mortar
steel prairie
#

oh wow

scarlet mortar
#

you just start by clapping these two boxes and then play normally

still vessel
#

agents are so good here

steel prairie
#

but yeah thats what I did there

scarlet mortar
#

that's 12-18?

steel prairie
scarlet mortar
#

well yh and i moved on

steel prairie
#

oh oops

steel prairie
keen gull
#

Oh wow tis stage a mlynar and sexas duo

steel prairie
#

but yeah ik destroy those boxes

steel prairie
still vessel
#

thats enough 🥹

steel prairie
#

btw this is the squad I used
slight disclaimer: this is original... ended up swapping left and right even used Cura and Mrytle but to no avail

rugged lava
#

anyone play in CN? what old limited unit that is available in banner and shop for event exalter and Hoshiguma?

scarlet mortar
steel prairie
scarlet mortar
#

not sure what mulberry is doing there

rugged lava
#

exia alter i mean

steel prairie
scarlet mortar
#

i think mlynar kinda sucks here unfortunately lmao

steel prairie
#

also Mylnar has taunt and I forgot about that

scarlet mortar
#

you can't bait anything away from him

still vessel
steel prairie
#

yeah I learned that the hard way

lofty stag
#

Also what’s mulberry doing here

scarlet mortar
#

if you are using him as drone dps just tag ptilo

steel prairie
#

btw I have Jessica Alter but I got her like......... yesterday ????????????

scarlet mortar
#

oh right

scarlet mortar
#

think the shield has taunt?

steel prairie
still vessel
#

exactly

lofty stag
#

Theres a dp cap, therefore too many vgs is a waste

scarlet mortar
still vessel
#

yk a lot of ops are less than like 15 dp

scarlet mortar
#

they cap exceedingly fast

steel prairie
scarlet mortar
#

that just wastes more DP

still vessel
#

kroos alt is a good pick here and shes like 12dp or sum.

lofty stag
#

Legit the only good dps here is mlynar

steel prairie
#

ik that but there is the taunt situation

lofty stag
#

And also what’s mulberry doing here

scarlet mortar
#

ok yh the shield has taunt

lofty stag
#

You already have 2 competent healers

scarlet mortar
#

you can use it to tank for mlynar

steel prairie
lofty stag
#

How ReedBean

#

You also have saria

scarlet mortar
#

pretty sure ptilo solo heals

#

saria vulpis can handle the off-lane

lofty stag
#

And mulberry heals little compared to the competition

steel prairie
still vessel
#

the main issue rn is you dont have enough dps to clear waves and are stuck having to defend multiple that you shouldnt be.

steel prairie
#

unless Im suppose to pause and deploy

lofty stag
#

I don’t trust greythroat and plati performance

scarlet mortar
#

just kill the drone spawners

lofty stag
#

You need more/better dps

steel prairie
scarlet mortar
#

they deal egregious damage anw, you don't want them alive

steel prairie
scarlet mortar
#

oh yh i spent like 2m not realizing you don't have jess2 lmao

lofty stag
#

I highly doubt this guides use 2 mid marksmen and 4 vgs

scarlet mortar
#

it's fine dw abt it

steel prairie
scarlet mortar
#

jess2 comes with a shield that has taunt

steel prairie
#

oh ok

#

bruh such a long queue I just got her like yesterday

#

I just finished Lappa Alter

still vessel
#

you dont even need jess2 bro

lofty stag
#

Notwithstanding you need more dps

#

More vgs/stalling isn’t helping

steel prairie
lofty stag
#

Cuz you have enough

still vessel
#

if you finished her use her, like i said before, she can quite literally wipe waves.

wicked viper
#

noir corne angle

lofty stag
#

Wait yeah noir angle ya

wicked viper
#

i recall using spot for my alt, surely couldnt be that bad when its not even H stage right

dapper hedge
#

Do you not have kroosalt

steel prairie
dapper hedge
#

Ditch platinum

still vessel
lofty stag
#

Is she as built as greythroat?

steel prairie
lofty stag
#

Like s2m3 and shit?

steel prairie
dapper hedge
#

Idk why tf are you using platinum over kroosalt

steel prairie
#

other than that they are almost identical almost

still vessel
#

no lmao

steel prairie
lofty stag
#

Kroos is NOT identical to greythroat

steel prairie
lofty stag
#

Wdym me, we all sure

#

Why else would we recommend Kroos so much

rugged lava
scarlet mortar
#

anyone in dragongjy's server send the dps chart

steel prairie
#

they literally faught side by side on the Shu event because of the flying sensor mosquite thingy and I didnt see that much differece

still vessel
#

kroos m3 is her breakpoint btw gains on m1-m2 are negligable before m3

elder flume
#

mosquito..

elder flume
#

have 1 hp

scarlet mortar
#

those things have 1hp....

#

they die to a sneeze

steel prairie
still vessel
#

idk i just afk with reedic 🥱

scarlet mortar
#

that tells you nothing abt their dps diff though

#

more hits =/= more damage

lofty stag
#

Else marksmen would be cracked ops today

#

Clearly high aspd isn’t enough to save the class

elder flume
#

im sure you know how bad phys gets countered when def gets involved

#

hundred toddlers vs a gorilla
actually gorilla isnt good to represent Krooster hm

steel prairie
#

ik that... its just that hp is so damn high

steel prairie
#

quite rare for a game first time I see a game that deals that

wicked viper
#

oh this might have been overkill

#

but tbh krooster isnt even needed

#

kroos was enough

lofty stag
#

Way to style on em ya

steel prairie
scarlet mortar
#

known broken 5* surfer arknight

lofty stag
#

He just did this now

wicked viper
#

it doesnt matter, kroos is enough

scarlet mortar
still vessel
#

known broken 3* op kroos

lofty stag
#

And I started right after that change

still vessel
#

that was a thing wtfart

wicked viper
#

e1 gummy btw

scarlet mortar
#

ancient arknights lore

still vessel
#

ok uncs 🥹

scarlet mortar
#

they stopped giving us free skin vouchers after that 🥀

elder flume
#

ancient is when there was Tourist C

steel prairie
lofty stag
wicked viper
#

the only thing matter is having something to kill the top side, kroos + an agent is enough

still vessel
#

aren't you borrowing her, you said it yourself

steel prairie
#

the only reason why I said "besides Wis" because Wis is usually the first answer people come up with

still vessel
#

if you dont wanna use wis then kroos alter is right there

#

low def anyways

south spindle
#

i mean if you are asking for help usually people will give you the easiest answer by default

steel prairie
#

fair point... but I literally avoid borrowing for the most part... I was mostly following the guides which usually centered around Mylnar

still vessel
#

mlynar does good but off skill you need another dps and your current units are not it.

south spindle
#

yes also a strong ass operator which makes stages easier

#

people who make guides have to encompass all skill ranges

#

mlynar is basically wisadel level damage anyways

steel prairie
#

ehhhhh I would say Mylnar and Wis are still two different things

south spindle
#

i said damage output

brisk surge
lofty stag
#

Hey max

brisk surge
#

cant beat stage

lofty stag
#

Just in time

brisk surge
steel prairie
south spindle
#

they have almost identical total damage

#

only difference being wisadels AOE reaches further

#

and Wisadel higher dph

still vessel
#

mlynar hits more than her 7 ammo shots to make up for it.

south spindle
#

thats a lie

#

mlynar does better consistently with mod3

still vessel
#

stfu i was talking modless

south spindle
#

wisadel has 6 shots

#

fraud

still vessel
#

oh i dont use her so not fraud

lofty stag
#

Nop ur still fraud

south spindle
#

just admit you are clueless

still vessel
#

never 🥹

maiden hound
#

is this bullying

lofty stag
#

steel prairie
still vessel
south spindle
#

this is bullying but erotic

still vessel
keen gull
south spindle
#

thank you bleck

keen gull
#

👍

still vessel
#

bleck go back to losing wordles

south spindle
brisk surge
#

hi chat im doing chapter 7 can i get assistance

keen gull
#

I lost on purposerealmad

brisk surge
south spindle
#

no way

#

max doing story

#

😱

still vessel
#

you should like

#

stream

#

brisk surge
#

its like boring af why do you want to watch defender slop

still vessel
#

oh nvm

noble hollow
wicked viper
#

excuse excuse

#

not sure how to show you that its adverse

still vessel
#

top left of screen you can see its adverse

#

but :ya:

maiden hound
#

yeah the three lines behind the operation word

keen gull
#

Okay but mlynar got skinrealmad

wicked viper
#

i meant during the stage

brisk surge
#

oh

#

dammit

#

im 🐌

#

record a vid chisha

wicked viper
#

idk noir spot card can tank with ansel pure

dapper hedge
#

🐌
Mine also havent finished uploading

wicked viper
#

surely anything work

#

kroos alt can kill the sarkaz heavyblade

#

surely platinum and greythroat can too

#

both of the obelisk die to mlynar so marksman arent even needed

dapper hedge
#

Also put your saria on s1 💀

#

Dont use s2

wicked viper
#

spot and gummy e1 work, surely anything work too

rugged lava
#

do you guys usually save ingot like this ? or just spend all of them in the shop?

rapid junco
#

Save until certain amount to unlock more shop slot

#

You can get it back while doing run anyway so. You saving it like a bank

dapper hedge
#

If this is is5 saving them is easy anw

#

Can just do shop squad

rugged lava
#

the problem is that they dont let me save as many as i want. like 10 or less per run. i mean, who even can reach 500? when i rech 150 in is 5, i already clear all of reward and just wait new reward refresh

stray forum
#

i reached 500 in only a couple hours before run seeds were even a thing. its not hard

rugged lava
#

i m kinda skeptical when i see the limit sometimes can be like 4 or 5 ingots in the runs

rapid junco
#

It's rough like game, you doing multiple run by a reason

rapid junco
#

Shop squad stratBigBrain

rugged lava
#

i have not reached 500 but this is my is 5

#

lvl 138