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void terrace
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Her s2 is % based and she could use tje extra heals

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Exe alter by the same logic

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If you are going for low op cleaers ling and skalter can sustain themselves through most farming stages

scarlet mortar
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mud is a bit ehhhhhh

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ig it's not the most egregious combo, but mud S2 doesn't scale against hp creep nowadays

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unless you want to add 2m to your autos

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(speaking from experience as the local enemyknights hobbit)

foggy grove
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obligatory chong mention

void terrace
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Oh yeah chong is quite busted with a permenant buff

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He dosent really need it

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But he does like it a lot

jovial nest
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Interesting anni....

narrow pendant
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Afk by 4 ops

jovial nest
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share it. I'm not too interested in overkilling this stage

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I want to finish it asap

vocal leaf
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i added horn for extra dps and eyja for passive buff

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simplest anni we had till this day HellaKek

jovial nest
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gotcha

timid schooner
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would be nice if i can use ulpipi + gladiia but i did not raise gladiia yet

full terrace
vocal leaf
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but it’s nice to see the old anni mains like thorns and blaze SkadiHug

timid schooner
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ye

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old but gold

jovial nest
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fuck it. Overkilling it with additional shit

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including Shu's 4 season passive

vocal leaf
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recommendation, put someone like horn facing top, enemies there take a while going in circles, otherwise gladiia can pull them into the hole

full terrace
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Narantuya center control is so beautiful this anni

vocal leaf
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hoping for nara mod in upcoming cn summer event

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but please no the dodge talent RedOmegaLul

wicked minnow
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does this mean brigid gets a mod as well?

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i am hoping for a new talent for her SpecterPray

vocal leaf
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arts protector, loopshooter, chain medic, skyranger and primal guards/protector/caster are the branches left to get a module

fierce tendon
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Ez new anni

azure roost
narrow pendant
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Im whipping out marcile

azure roost
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marcille just gonna fuck up the middle lane

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s2 moments

tidal sedge
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Is kernel celebration worth the pull

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:p

dapper hedge
wicked minnow
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no

azure roost
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shileds pro

narrow pendant
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Marcile has been whipped out

void terrace
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Shu plus hunters is my go to brainless clear

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Gigantic stat sticks with insane sp generation

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Somethings gonna die at somepoint and it sure as hell isnt the hunters

sly drift
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Placing the pump like this and I accidentally do the funni on the source water CliffXD CliffXD

weak gazelle
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thank you for another freebies :ya:

celest bluff
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Infinity pump work

karmic glade
celest bluff
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Lag

noble hollow
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can you just put ulpian mid lane and call it a day

haughty flower
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Ulpi can cover mid lane on his own but he'll need another blocker for the other lane.
And there's still the issue of the top left red box, which you'll need someone else on.

noble hollow
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just seems to be the heavy dudes

haughty flower
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Top left lane? Sure, though keep in mind that you're gonna get the top lane's water dirty that way.

noble hollow
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i'll figure something out later

haughty flower
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I did I quick rundown of the strats used in this channel and I prefer Fredi's way the most for an ulpi-based run.

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Ulpi midlane, any blocker maybe with a healer on them for the lower lane. Utilize valves to isolate clean pools of water, logos s1 for flies, and marcille can be replaced with anyone strong enough to blow up the elites top left.

noble hollow
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does shoe need to be s1 m3

haughty flower
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Shu can be literally anyone with three block, it's just if they're not her I might put a healer on them just in case.

next wigeon
haughty flower
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Also, in this setup either ulpi or whoever is in shu's spot goes down last.

noble hollow
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ok ill clear later then

haughty flower
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That way, the global range bozos don't hit your squishies.

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Last thing, if the top right's flypoles activate logos is cooked unless he has a healer on him. Try to keep that from happening.

noble hollow
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ill just bring gladiia and have her down last near those just in case

noble hollow
narrow pendant
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Nothing actually walks up onto the tiles with thw poles right above the mid red box, so everyone goes to ulpi or shu
Shu just there for block and healing, she is s1m3 but its not needed at all
Even someone like bassline works fine

haughty flower
# narrow pendant 🥹 using mine

I basically copied what you did, just with a lot more shit on the field.
Nymph for Marcille, Logos, Ulpi, Specter over Shu, Gladiia, and then Lumen covering Specter and Logos.

narrow pendant
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And ulpi must face down

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Otherwise shu gets overwherlmed latwr

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Well, if u dont have someone helping her
Theres 7 more slots u can use

haughty flower
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Specter lives if you have a healer on her :ya:
How broken are 5 stars.

narrow pendant
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I'l piss in your soup and steal your dog

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:realmad:

noble hollow
narrow pendant
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I win

noble hollow
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my dog already stolen

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hah

narrow pendant
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L bozo

wheat arch
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works for me

haughty flower
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This is a slightly schizo setup but hey, whatever works.

next wigeon
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Oh ya here was my setup

fresh willow
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Might just build marcille for this LOL

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I dont have shu tho😔

vocal leaf
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don’t need any of the two

fresh willow
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Well dang do i suck then💔

narrow pendant
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Yes

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Shu can be any 3 block

lapis hornet
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wdf op

graceful bear
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Dumb question: If I want to spawn camp the deep red tile on the right side for the new Anni, do I just FRD Ines there to reveal the (I presume) invis rats and slugs and then use Logos to spawnkill?

glass monolith
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I seen spawnkillers just Logos them

narrow pendant
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So just slap some op to kill then

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Like astrelgpt did wisadel here

graceful bear
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Valves have enough health to tank the rat hits before Logos Logoses all over them?

vocal leaf
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they don’t get to hit it, logos insta kill them when they try HellaKek

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only the big rats can move before he kills them

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but it doesn’t matter, you can relocate more platforms or buff logos with stainless, skalter or eyja to kill then faster

narrow pendant
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But placing logos there would then take away his strengh in the middle where it matters more

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Tho, its an easy anni so

graceful bear
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Yeah I figured Midlane is just going to be Ulpianus's funzone

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since there's no flying enemies other than the poles which won't spawn if I spawncamp right side

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Wait, Eyja has an attack buff?

vocal leaf
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yeah a passive atk buff for casters when she’s in team, need module tho

wheat arch
graceful bear
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You don't want to kill the Scum in the top left so you can keep clean water flowing right?

vocal leaf
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it’s optional, gladiia can pull those enemies

narrow pendant
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And u can just clean them

vocal leaf
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yeah spawnkill is faster, some of them waste time going in circles

narrow pendant
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Exhibit A
U can isolate the water at bottom to make a clear spot to use and clean the water top left

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And well, everywhere else

haughty flower
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The little pond of clean water with 2 valves coming out of it is the most important part here.
If you don't keep that pond safe in order to keep a source of clean water the skypoles on bottom left and middle activate and have fun if that happens.

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You also really don't want any skypoles near logos to go off if you don't have a healer on him and that pond helps keep that from happening.

rugged lava
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help me h8-4. i cannot erase talulah's meteor with logos S3 m3 borrowed. is this already fixed and the hint video on youtube not usable anymore?

glass monolith
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Do you have video of it failing?

haughty flower
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Thus if you're only depending on logos the timing will need to be good.

rugged lava
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as far as i know, it is even possible to retreat logos before his duration end, and will delete any projectiles trapped inside. but i cannot do it this time too.

glass monolith
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First time hearing about such tech

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Also why the f would you retreat him if you need him for second wave of fireballs anyway

haughty flower
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^

rugged lava
glass monolith
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What do you mean close enough he deploys with empty SP HellaKek

haughty flower
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s3 windup is slow but it's still "only" 15 sp.

leaden linden
wintry gulch
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i put a afk setup and went to the bathroom 🥀

lofty stag
glass monolith
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Let me guess he afked with 4 operators instead 12 BlitzSmile

wintry gulch
lapis hornet
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just afk with 5 np

rugged lava
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do smth differ if ops r deployed on dark icy tiles, and white snow tiles?

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from silverash event

keen flower
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Paddy field (maximize your Gummy :D)

full terrace
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All poles intact, 0 mosquitoes run

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Ling supremacy

full terrace
lofty stag
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myrtle solo ya

marsh dove
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Dang your myrtle is stacked

lofty stag
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obv

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cuz look at that 424 dp

marsh dove
lofty stag
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why does myrtle need 2235 atk

narrow sun
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to kill patriot obv

stray spindle
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Is global range atk good in all IS?

haughty flower
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I mean for casual play sure. Can't get too much more braindead than click button for global damage.

rugged lava
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is it ever considered bad?

full terrace
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..unless you play strictly Undulation

full terrace
stray spindle
haughty flower
# stray spindle QoL? Handmixing? Undulation? <:CeobeConfused:1151875108844097606>

Quality of life
IS5 mechanic. Lamp of Wishes tailors relics for you based on your ops. (For high end, this means you wasted a node if the specific relic wasn't wanted, and also hope to recruit the op in some cases.)
Undulation-the relic in question. Called Hand of Undulation, it buffs the archetype global range casters like lappy and goldenglow are in.

stray spindle
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Okay?CeobeConfused

haughty flower
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Tldr Global Range casters less universally good in higher diff IS

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Fine in lower diff

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Which means as long as you play IS casually and do not enjoy self-harm, you will find use from global range casters!

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Arf dawg whatcha cooking.

elder flume
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A 3759 character textwall

haughty flower
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It will detail the exact undulation slop ed2a45 route strategy 🥀

stray spindle
full terrace
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If you dont appreciate the answer I'll just delete it

haughty flower
full terrace
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I help people but I dont help ungrateful ones

haughty flower
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I actually would like to know, how bad is undulation for high diff vs say triple flinger?

stray spindle
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Thank you btw

haughty flower
# full terrace I help people but I dont help ungrateful ones

I read it all before it went and I think you summed it just fine, but I'd argue context is important-they were clearly a casual so in this case oversimplifying is fine. You just want to get across an overall concept here, skipping the nuances.

late geyser
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what do you do after getting the king relics btw? do you just pick as much emergencies as possible or is it still worth refreshing for wish fulfilled?

full terrace
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Depends on your playstyle. Some people will stick to their preferred setup and push for the Coin-Toy+Chalice later on at F5/F6 after robbing Cannot

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My playstyle would be handmix right after King sets

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And try to grab the Coin-Toy and Chalice through other means

full terrace
dark mantle
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not consistent at all

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me when -2 nodes

late geyser
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ic ic

dark mantle
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better off playing gvg
good squad!

haughty flower
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.

dark mantle
smoky halo
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its not that global range is bad

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its the units with global range have bad damage

fresh willow
somber falcon
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any art source works for top left

rapid junco
lofty stag
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Internal affairs no one is listening to this

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🥱

rapid junco
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My homies listening to it

lofty stag
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Imaginary friends don’t count 🥹

rapid junco
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Ikuta > yoasobi real

lofty stag
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I’m not well versed enough in the field to agree/disagree with that take ReedBean

rapid junco
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Then stop the yap

lofty stag
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Nop

rapid junco
lofty stag
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I need to be hater

heady garden
dapper hedge
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Im alr sick of them after i heard gunjo a thousand times in a random mall

rapid junco
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When vocaloid producer forgot he employing real human

sly drift
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I M3 rosesalt specifically for Yu event just to find out the dragon wave deal true damage BlitzSmile

haughty flower
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Reading comprehension in the negatives.

sly drift
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I thought it was art damage ngl.

maiden hound
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cope the +aspd

sly drift
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Dot works for turning back the apparition to red right?

full terrace
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Think so. I remember listening to Yu/Amiya said "it needs 15 hits" or something

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In the livestream I mean

vocal leaf
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the only thing i remember from the livestream is how handsome is zuo le SkadiHug

lofty stag
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Amiya has a type 🥹

wintry gulch
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You’ve heard of prefarming now get ready for preskinbuying (if he’s not in Orienteering I’m going to crash out)

vocal leaf
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i might not even buy the skin HellaKek

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im broke

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need yu in free 10 pulls

haughty flower
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I just need cantabile skin from CNY and I will be satisfied.

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I must make my favorite agent happy.

haughty flower
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That's about everything noteworthy from the stream.

vocal leaf
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i see no evil, god forbid a girl has a hobby

wintry gulch
timid schooner
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my friend called this "paint the town red"

celest bluff
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Where are the uhh

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Dealing with invisible

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And I pretty sure you don't need both wis and vis

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Virt

dapper hedge
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Logos1

narrow pendant
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I think "insanity" or "mental disability" sounds better

cinder vector
maiden hound
rugged lava
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what do i do?

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the first or escape?

full terrace
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Depends

rugged lava
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why depends?

full terrace
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If there is a Catastrophe actives, you wanna keep that Epoch. If there is another annoying Epoch actives you want to remove it by replacing it with Prosperous Epoch (option 1) only if the current Epoch has like 4~5 turns left

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If it's only 1 turn left, you might want to wait it out and hopefully get yourself a fresh Catastrophe Epoch.

rugged lava
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how do i check epoch things?

full terrace
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If it's close to boss fight, like 4~5 nodes away, you want to activate the Prosperous Epoch so that no other annoying Epoch will appear right before your boss fight.

full terrace
rugged lava
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so i skip?

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ok

full terrace
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How many nodes until boss fight anyway

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Eh nvm you are at d0

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It's whatever

rugged lava
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IS things really suck. d0, d1, epoch. so confusing. all i care and understand r that 'hope' limit me to recruit ops *6, recruiting ops really suck for forcing the player to choose from determined class (which some i dont have upgraaded high end ops at all, like suport, i have no virtuosa or ling), low squad limit, weak buff, uncompatible or irrelevant squad against certain stage etc

full terrace
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And watch the fun begins

rugged lava
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worst of all, failing that stage immediately restart the game. not to mention i cannot see enemy's line up, let alone testing them before playing

weak gazelle
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yeah that IS in a nutshell
take it easy, its perma game mode anyway

full terrace
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Thats IS for you

rugged lava
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Anni was the worst, but is no longer true anymore once i come returnee

full terrace
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Anni is free, one of the easier general contents

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IS is where you feel that those expensive units you pulled really matter

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Coz in general contents you usually just need like 1 of them, sometimes 2

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IS is where you can go all out, thats the charm of that gamemode

scarlet fulcrum
celest bluff
rapid junco
weary quail
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can i retire

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after seeing this

rugged lava
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do it

weary quail
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d0 is way too easy

rapid junco
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dalao

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play my yu stages

wicked minnow
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what yu stages

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oh next event

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uhhh

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do mines as well 🙏

rugged lava
# weary quail d0 is way too easy

the problem is that this buff is too random and only a third of them generally compatible for the unit i have been forced to take. the boss kill me again after i still have 64 ingot, 24 hope remaining lol. the shop barely appear when i was as resourcefull as that.

rapid junco
rugged lava
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i always need guard ops but the last game, never appear at all

weary quail
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man

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lets just say that

rugged lava
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and until i reach the first boss, in my first time, guard is the only ops that never appear

weary quail
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u can switch to using flingers

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by borrowing wis if u dont have

rapid junco
scarlet fulcrum
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🤫

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The voice just one of kind

rapid junco
elder flume
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<@&586570970345635868>

brazen linden
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where

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can I kill em

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let me at em

elder flume
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i think you got outsped

brazen linden
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damn...

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must've been mcqueen

rapid junco
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bro should train speed not wit next time

dry venture
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What does it feel like to get killed by mod?

haughty flower
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Squishy.

wicked minnow
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testing uhhh raidian

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she seems kinda nice

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she's not max level yet obv

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e1 lv 60. without her talent that buffs summons

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on skill they deal like 2200 damage per volley

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sl1 btw lmao

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the cycle improvements between sl1 and s2m3 are so insane

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40/25 skill to 25/25 skill

next wigeon
wicked minnow
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i was really worried s2 was just gonna have shit stats

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not really the case. i think if we are considering how much dps any singular unit can generate, she's probably really high up there

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e2 lvl90 drones have 773 atk.
raidian has 529 attack. 12% and inspiration buff that would be about +63 attack
((773 * 1.8) + 63) * 3 / 1.8 = 2424 dps per summon on skill

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skill has 50% uptime

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oh one of her pots gives slightly more attack damn

maiden hound
wicked minnow
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unfortunately no

maiden hound
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aw

wicked minnow
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i thought they did but just tested it

noble hollow
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she seems like a fun summoner to play around with

void terrace
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Is radian good?

haughty flower
# void terrace Is radian good?

Insane, there was literally a whole convo on this for you to read directly above you and yet you just asked without checking.

scarlet mortar
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the convo above isn't very conclusive tbf

narrow pendant
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Aitn building her anyway

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probably

wicked minnow
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good just depends what you're rating her against

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i think she'd be the best welfare but that isnt a necessarily high bar

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also i didnt test her s3 yet

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her s3 looks quite solid

scarlet mortar
wicked minnow
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the main problem with getting her is that you need to be half decent at the game to even level her up 😭

scarlet mortar
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literally she costs 0 mats

haughty flower
wicked minnow
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to e2 her you need to beat is6 at like d3 i think

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the problem is that i think this is the hardest d0 ed1 boss

scarlet mortar
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mfw some people are madge that their perfect E2L60 rosters will be hit by The Bird Event

scarlet mortar
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wait wtfrick

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they took down the vid

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clueless

wicked minnow
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mmmm

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coin shenanigans it would seem

lofty stag
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how hard is it to build raidian anyway

wicked minnow
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exp takes a couple runs to get to e1 level 80

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to e2 her you need to beat a run at like d2+

lofty stag
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that doesnt seem hard

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just like how anyone would farm levels

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for the battlepass

wicked minnow
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ed1 boss is a bit of a dude

lofty stag
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dud or dude ReedBean

wicked minnow
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uhhh he has a funny attack

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dude

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a dud would mean that he is easy

lofty stag
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like where does he rank compared to other ed1 bosses

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in terms of difficulty

wicked minnow
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you know the yin and yang that explode where they touch each other?

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there's a new enemy

lofty stag
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thats flying

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right

wicked minnow
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it's just those guys but flying

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yeaaaaah

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wisadel needs like 2-3 hits to kill them

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they kill wisadel

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d0 btw

lofty stag
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so its not so much the boss

wicked minnow
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he doesnt really do much

lofty stag
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as it is this certain enemy?

wicked minnow
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yeah but he's the one that summons them

lofty stag
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ohh

wicked minnow
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i havent encountered him enough to know how the fight goes

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so ill try again

lofty stag
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what d are you on rn

haughty flower
wicked minnow
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it's the ed1 boss

haughty flower
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On a serious note, what's their HP?

wicked minnow
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we should fire whoever came up with this idea

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it's 10 hits

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no shit wisadel gets rolled by them 😭

haughty flower
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Sounds like lappslop fodder to me

void terrace
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The damage numbers look ok

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But what of utility and management

wicked minnow
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her main utility is s3

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it has a slow and arts fragility with 35% frag

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s2 has the ability to stall enemies without damaging them

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s2 has a really good 50% uptime and s3 has a worse uptime but more possibilities for positioning due to unique range linking mechanic

scarlet mortar
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🥹

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worse than marksmen in the big 25

void terrace
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But dosent each summon take up deployment slots?

wicked minnow
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yeah. unfortunately she didnt come with a mod to help her outside IS. i believe she has a bunch of IS6 specific buffs to help her there tho

void terrace
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A supporter burning through 3-4 deployment slots is pretty bad

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Short of ling levels of great dragon walls

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The ranged floating snakes seem a pretty good starter for IS though

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Ling suffers if she isnt immediately promoted, and even then her dp cost makes for tough openers

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And your vanguards suck early if you are going with defender supporter squad

dark mantle
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I did figure out a solid strat for phase 1 now

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If you stall yi at the top when he does the clone attack he does it in the 3 columns next to him

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So if you place ops at the bottom he will never hit them

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This changes with phase 2
Since it forces a mapwide clone attack
but after that you can repeat the same process

wicked minnow
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makes sense but god i hate hitcout shit

dark mantle
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they'll be pure ass on d15
at least 50 hits minimum

wicked minnow
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im counting on exu2 killing him in 1 skill. if not 1 then 3 skills with crane

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this hitcount shit sounds awful

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also do you mean the attacks are horizontal or vertical

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i remember them being horizontal

dark mantle
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the attacks are vertical

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horizontal on the start of phase 2

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but vertical again afterwards

wicked minnow
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phase 1 is horizontal right?

dark mantle
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no, vertical

wicked minnow
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i need to look at a video of this. i might be misremembering then

scarlet mortar
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outside of IS6 she's just literally every summoner ever though

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she'll probs be able to low op farm stages, but summoners that aren't utility-heavy like mag S1 aren't exchangeable for 2025 kits

wicked minnow
dark mantle
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but err

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It seems like he has variations

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There was different enemies that spawned initially

wicked minnow
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d0 exualt with crane just kills the boss. that's atleast cool. this looks cancer on high diff. why is this ed1 😭

dark mantle
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yeah you can do burst comp on lower diff

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But you prolly need to highroll broken relics to do it on d15

rugged lava
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i hate this stage. what should i do here?

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can i win with this?

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i honestly was surprised when this boss prevent redeployment lol

haughty flower
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You just use wisadel to kill the boss p1, retreat wis then break her out with like exu or another ranged op you don't need, then hold the line with a few other ops until wis refreshes.
Don't think there's too much else to it? It's not ed1a, far as I can see.

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Man, if you think this boss is tough wait til you see the other endings, lol.

rugged lava
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i cannot put practice for IS stage so it is stressful. this is tough unless i was not forced to unlock as many weakass *3 and 4 as this

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if i close the emulator during the game, do i lose anyway? or do i restart?

haughty flower
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Mid stage? You always lose.

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Any method that kills the stage in the middle of you doing it will end your run.

buoyant pond
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what am i supposed to do to make the big black heavily armored reunion guys take damage, im hard stuck on 2-2 because even when i put my 2 highest damage dealers (thorns and laplannd) behind my tankiest defender (vulcan) and THREE healers on vulcan he still just kills her faster than she can be healed all while taking like no damage

haughty flower
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Did you, y'know, check her trait?

buoyant pond
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yeah somone else in the other chat told me i somehow managed to gloss over that

haughty flower
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Also, did you bother to go to the wiki to check it's stats?

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Here they are. You'll notice something-800 defense, 0 res.
Do you remember your training? Do you remember what defense and res are?

rugged lava
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2-2 ? someone stuck at ch 2?

haughty flower
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Relax. It happens more often than you think.

willow sun
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makes mistakes while the stakes are low, so when the pressure’s on you don’t fold

haughty flower
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IS5 ed1 is probably the least stressful of the IS ed1's tbh imo.
Even Phantom is problematic due to how if you're new and don't know how to dps he'll open up paths right past your setup.
IS3 has the lane with just annoying manta rays/crabs and also phase 2 will kill any melee in range if you don't know what you're doing.
IS4.

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IS5 is just fremont wandering around then exploding to wis, and the top region covered in the Witch King enemies mostly dies to wis splash.

willow sun
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but with practice yeah it’s the most straightforwards

haughty flower
#

Mhm.
I still deeply hate IS4 ed1 for being a dual lane stage with a rather scary amount of elite/dangerous enemies coming in on the right side for newbies.

willow sun
#

yeah until you learn to path well and the boss just gets demolished by any decent dps

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tbh i’d put is4 ed1 on par in terms of difficulty as is5 ed1, both before and after the learning curve

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i can’t say much about is3 cause im still on d8 IfritSweat

haughty flower
#

You need other levelled ops to be managing at least the left, and they need help otherwise the bosses global attack will kill them.

willow sun
#

well yeah but that’s more a 2 lane issue, i see what you mean though

haughty flower
#

Also, because the boss has taunt wis is carnally attracted to it and as such might ignore the elites even on the right side.

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Which will cause massive issues if your run wasn't good, which it often isn't as a newbie.

willow sun
#

ye it requires patience and planning

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whereas you can just brute force beat down every other ed1 boss

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actually idk what the is6 ed1 boss is like yet but i don’t plan on spoiling it

haughty flower
#

IS6 ed1 boss already confirmed to be pure ass. I won't say more for respect to spoilers.

willow sun
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i can’t tell if you mean ass in a good or bad way but im excited now Blemi

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(don’t tell me)

haughty flower
#

Let's just say the boss has that bakery.

willow sun
#

LMFAO

haughty flower
#

And it most certainly claps cheeks.

jovial nest
#

What is Pepe's default skill?

lofty stag
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S3

minor lion
#

@haughty flower this is my team

rugged lava
#

i cleared ending 1 this IS

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is it true i must choose different buff if i want to get to ending 2?

remote perch
#

Mostly getting specific relics

rugged lava
#

relics? you mean collectible?

remote perch
rugged lava
#

what is this dark blue monster that has global attack?

#

did i do smth that make it choosen?

#

is this the epoch thing?

full terrace
#

Final Cadence

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You chose to spawn it

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In the Amiya (Ending 5) Encounter

rugged lava
#

is it bad buff? is it better if i dont choose ending 5 at all?

south spindle
#

It’s the encounter with Amiya and Nymph

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Uh well if you don’t wanna play ED5

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Don’t grab it

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It’s a little tricky but it can be seen as a buff too you get a relic every time it leaks
And btw you can kill it over multiple fights, carries over hp%

full terrace
#

Honestly I dont understand what you meant by "buff"

#

Does it refer to relic or what

south spindle
#

I think they meant does it have a debuff

rugged lava
#

lets say 'a condition where the game become easier'. so i guess this shit is too had

south spindle
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And the debuff is the very very tanky mf that you can’t kill in one combat

#

That you kind of gotta leak

scarlet mortar
#

if you just want to farm exp then no, don't path towards ed5

full terrace
scarlet mortar
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(not every relic buffs you, is the idea)

rugged lava
#

are there tricks to not be hit by epoch?

full terrace
#

No

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And thats the beauty of IS5 honestly

modern plover
#

Its completely random 👍

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But you can override all of them with prosperity epoch (a buff epoch)

celest bluff
#

Catastrophe 🤌

limpid ore
#

at least it's not 3-4 epoch at once

scarlet mortar
#

me when IS4

sly drift
#
  • Free six star
  • Require no material to upgrade
  • This decent (Elite lv 1, Skill level 7 btw)
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I ask no more to beloved Raidian SuzuHeart

glass monolith
sly drift
#

No problem That's just grinding the monthly rewards Art

sly drift
maiden hound
#

ed3 d9 for mod1 (2?)

void terrace
#

Wait dusk gets an IS module?

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Is it any good?

dapper hedge
#

No

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Garbage

mossy orchid
#

the mod effects arent that horrible but at the same time you are giving up the -8 dp from mod y which results in dealing with the usual 34 dp and higher dp cost on each deployment
so at this point ur off better taking another caster like gg or laptop

full terrace
#

For link back purpose

grim hare
#

Let's assume I have a deep roster, which critically includes E2 M9 Full Pot Saria. Is sparking Shu worth it? Possibly relevant: I have Hoshiguma and Horn, so I have good Defenders. I have 2 Sui siblings, Ling and Dusk, so a sparked Shu (which would guarantee Yu) would enable Shu's four Sui siblings ability. I also have both Lappland the Decadenza and Goldenglow, which has some synergy with Yu. The likely opportunity cost to sparking Shu is sparking Eyja the Hvit Aska later on. I haven't really borrowed anyone's Shu very much; I've found myself borrowing Eyjaberry a lot. Other notable roster members include Bagpipe, Blaze, Silverash, Mlynar, Thorns, Mudrock, Ch'en, Eyjafjalla (caster), Pozemka, Ifrit, Nymph, Suzuran, Ines, Texas the Omerterosa, Dorothy, Wisadel (I don't actually have Wisadel yet but will be sparking her)

next wigeon
full terrace
#

You answered your own question there, if you are using a lot more Eyja than Shu, then you should spark her (Eyja). Both are generally strong lifelines but there are scenarios where Shu teleport could make things so much easier, but you said that you got a full roster for this so the teleport is more of QoL than necessity.

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He is a whale, you dont question whale's life choice 😏

#

His question is more of "should I spark A or B" rather than "should I spark?"

#

I mean he is sparking regardless so might as well spark the one he is using the most

somber falcon
#

Quick guide to sparking:
do you want the op? Can you afford it?
If either of those is a no, then that's your answer

full terrace
#

I think his question is more of "I want them both (Eyja and Shu), but I can only afford one of them". Personally I would pick Shu over Eyja but thats just me coz I use more Shu than Eyja.
How about this: you try pulling for Yu first, if you got him in like 30~40 pulls, then you can decide the Shu vs Eyja for yourself later on, but if you pulled him in like 150~200 pulls, then you might as well go for 300, spark Shu and forget Eyja.

void terrace
#

Are there any ops who can consistently splitbox enemies they are blocking without redeploying

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Idea is an operator who can act as a gate of sorts, pulling enemies onto their tile so a short range mele operator can hide behind ad poke them while still being protected

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Also i want to do a funny thing involving Ho'ol and double tornados to make her useful

#

Does yu do this to enemies he is blocking?

grim hare
void terrace
#

Hi other jay

grim hare
#

Hello cat Jay

#

or...whatever that is

full terrace
grim hare
full terrace
#

Sparking is generally not advised because you are spending 300 pulls on 1 unit (and plenty of his/her pots)

#

With that 300 pulls, if you divide them to like 5~6 banners

#

You'll get 5~6 strong units

vocal leaf
#

Yu banner is also especially awful because Blazealter HellaHands

full terrace
#

So the idea is to get 5~6 strong units over 1 strong unit with plenty pots

grim hare
#

but with a deep roster most of those 5-6 strong units have no value to me

#

like I have a bunch of 6-stars I didn't mention above that I never use

full terrace
#

And that is exactly why the "no spark" principle does not apply to you

grim hare
#

getting more of those would not be meaningful

#

ok

full terrace
#

Do what you want with your game really

vocal leaf
#

I saw some people saying that monster will replace eyjalter as your main healer, if there’s no elemental damage, monster seems to bring more utility. But I do use more Eyja than Shu at least for IS5

next wigeon
next wigeon
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Mon3tr will replace Eyjaberry because she's more accessible

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But for those that have Eyjaberry just use her

grim hare
next wigeon
void terrace
next wigeon
#

For a pure meta perspective then don't spark

karmic glade
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Yu s2 will splitbox

full terrace
#

Tbh I see Mon3tr as an offensive healer in the same group as Reed, while Eyja as a pure support in the same group as Nightingale.

#

I mean, I have been saved by the global healing a lot in IS5

next wigeon
#

S2 is the healing one

full terrace
#

I know

next wigeon
#

S3 is the True Dmg dps

full terrace
#

Offensive ≠ she is attacking, I mean her buff (aspd) is leaning toward buffing your firepower

next wigeon
#

Mon3tr is Buffer Healing when S2 Active, Offensive healing when S3

full terrace
#

While Nightingale and Eyja are more for survivability (Res and Elemental plus Global heal)

full terrace
next wigeon
#

I see your point now

#

I thought offensive = murder

full terrace
#

Yeah but then again you are right about Mon3tr replacing Eyja because of higher hps and her being more accessible

elder flume
#

Ive shilled Conviction since the release for this purpose RedOmegaLul

void terrace
void terrace
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Yu and chongyue gonna be fun

#

Finally he can charge his skill even behind a tank

#

Ah screw it im going back to my brainless clear squad

#

Hunters plus global range gang

#

If only mostimas passive activated while she wasnt deployed

scarlet mortar
void terrace
#

Yeah

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Urgh the pain

scarlet mortar
#

i can only think of jess2

void terrace
#

Maybe weedy could push tho

#

Cannon behind heavy enemies

#

I mean my current solution is just 30 second fast redeploy skadi

#

And ulpi can shift in to block for the downtime

scarlet mortar
#

i mean, what're you going for lmao

void terrace
#

A ines and the vanguards stall

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Oh its just a testing concept

#

I wanted to do a funny ho'ol buffed nuke

#

And if you splitbox an enemy she doubles her tornado damage on them

scarlet mortar
#

the easy way to splitpush has always been FRD jumpscare

full terrace
#

If you are going to deploy pusher at a precise timing to push an enemy to a Defender and splitbox them, you might as well just helidrop that Defender when an enemy is at the tile you want it to be.

void terrace
#

Yeah exactly

scarlet mortar
#

or mud S3 ig

#

just preproc

void terrace
#

Weeeeeeell

#

Mud s3 plus ines

#

Could consistently work

#

Very few things are bind immune

full terrace
#

It's either stallers like Asca, Nymph, Tragodia or you helidrop/FRDs

void terrace
#

Oh wait nymph can splitbox with a fear right

scarlet mortar
#

gonna be messy

void terrace
#

If she hits from behind

scarlet mortar
#

the enemy won't walk back is the issue there

void terrace
#

Wait dosent the same logic apply to lapdumb then

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Lapdumb on the other end of the map

scarlet mortar
#

lapp's fear might be short enough to not mess with things

void terrace
#

To fear them into the blocker

#

Lemme test

elder flume
#

Leizi2 S1M3 moment

void terrace
#

Holy shit it worked

#

She fears them just short enough to splitbox consistently

#

I can finally make ho'ol (somewhat) not shit

#

Now to reveal the real reason i need this tech

scarlet mortar
#

at the cost of her "support" doing twice her damage anw?

void terrace
#

To make pepe s3 usable

scarlet mortar
void terrace
#

One of the biggest ST attacks held back by a one tile range

#

Now able to be consistently used on a singled out target

#

Blocked by whatever tank defender you want

scarlet mortar
#

ehhhhhhhh

void terrace
#

Plus as long as she has a boss to hit the aoe will stun and clear trashmobs

#

Still bad

#

But midly better than the ho'ol plan HAHHAA

scarlet mortar
#

obscenely impractical considering a helidrop nian does the same thing

#

and you'll usually find only one boss that tanky in a stage

void terrace
#

True but i run lappdumb inmost sqads anyway

void terrace
tepid mica
#

How can I beat the newest annihilation with these operators?

#

I wanna be able to do it without support units

void terrace
#

Walter lapdumb and goldenglow is probably the easiest way to cheese any anni

#

Just take your strongest defenders and guards, wall off the blue box and keep spamming global skills

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See something a bit tankier? Hit walter's skill

scarlet mortar
#

you'll probs want to manage the sewage so the critters don't brick the run

full terrace
#

Plenty of formations you can do

#

But anyway it's mainly your pumps positioning

#

And just camp the red boxes

scarlet mortar
#

ngl bring ines mlynar wis as failsafes, myrtle for DP and then fuck it we ball the rest

full terrace
full terrace
#

S3

full terrace
#

The big dragons

#

Anyway its just your Pumps positioning mostly

#

To keep the farmlands clean

#

Clean farmlands = all operators standing on them recover HP/sec

#

Including Ling dragons

#

Super broken

scarlet mortar
#

dropping dragons takes too long 😪

#

go mud go

narrow pendant
#

All my homies hate ling

#

:realmad:

tepid mica
#

Also where’s your pfp from? It looks familiar

full terrace
#

Terakomari Gandesblood

#

From "The Vexation of a Shut-In Vampire Princess"

narrow pendant
#

Arf watches yuri?

#

Based

sturdy sable
#

what do i do here?

maiden hound
sturdy sable
#

right to left

full terrace
full stream
#

🚬

fringe tangle
#

i though this was offtopic

wintry gulch
#

what stage even is that

wintry gulch
wicked minnow
# wintry gulch what stage even is that

stage you need to complete to be able to do is4ed4. you get it by going to an encounter after having bought the collectible that costs 1 orignium ingot from cannot's shop

wintry gulch
#

ooh ic

wicked minnow
#

it can be annoying but it's usually fine

narrow pendant
#

It will fuck u if u do it on f2DocSmile

south spindle
#

the uninitiated often encounter it on f2 after buying it in f1 shop smil

obtuse shale
#

The difficulty spike from D15 to D18 feels so brutal. Wtf

ancient ibex
mortal echo
#

most efficient way to farm for e2 mats? SkadiDaijoubu

lofty stag
#

Basically, farm during events

mortal echo
#

...outside of events

lofty stag
#

If ur talking about general mats

#

Then you could go check botspam fo best stages

#

With the best drop rate for certain mats

mortal echo
lofty stag
#

Tho those usually give less than during events

signal dew
#

I'm having huge trouble with IW-EX-8

#

stupid dragon keeps oneshotting everyone

#

do I need to not kill the little wisps that go to the boss

glass monolith
#

Each alive wisp is more HP to that piece of shit so suit yourself

signal dew
#

I kill them all all the time

#

he just kills all my characters in 1 hit

vocal leaf
#

not enough healing maybe?

#

oh no wait, you said they get 1 hit HellaKek

#

event is so old, i forgot how it works, i remember borrowing ng

wintry gulch
#

kyato, mlynar, ascalon, logos, reed alter especially

void terrace
#

If they are getting one shot its probably the dragon tail or the lazer beam

#

The dragon tail can be baited by mylnar or just deploying a brick last every spawn cycle

#

As for the beam having a train of operators in a line is one way to do it if you are stretched for healing

#

I dont remember the healing requirement being exceptionally high though i remember saria plus ptilo was enough for me

scarlet mortar
wintry gulch
#

kyato because she nukes the boss with s3, mlynar because mlynar, ascalon because mob clearing (slow+dot+aoe), logos because s2 has massive res, reedic because s2 dps and hps is nuts

#

I think I did it with asca reedic mlynar kyato

#

Definitely doable with less

signal dew
signal dew
#

somehow pulled it through

stiff beacon
vocal leaf
#

is that tw server? CeobeConfused

vocal leaf
#

what do you want to improve? it seems already done successfully ExeNaruhodo

#

SA can solo the 7th stage

#

greyalt and tinman can duo the 4th stage

stiff beacon
#

i tried so hard with them and gummy

vocal leaf
stiff beacon
#

video please?

vocal leaf
#

i can only show a screenshot as proof HellaKek

stiff beacon
#

these stages made me use my noggin really hard

vocal leaf
#

both were max lvl m6, i think use s2 for greyalt and tinman s1

stiff beacon
#

ohh

#

yeah since tinman was barely able to break the shields

stiff beacon
vocal leaf
#

i have no idea, oh sorry i meant tinman s2, s1 has really short range

stiff beacon
#

i'll try it out

vocal leaf
#

tinman was at left/right while grey was in the bottom part, i can’t remember much

stiff beacon
#

real

#

i just need better skill timing

vocal leaf
stiff beacon
#

that is insane

vocal leaf
# stiff beacon

yeah and try to use tinman to heal greyalt, does he get oneshot?

stiff beacon
willow sun
#

oh are you lurking 3 months in the past for SP talk RedOmegaLul

stiff beacon
elder flume
#

TW moment

stiff beacon
#

wrong reply

glass monolith
#

Also heal from what this fucking caster is only ranged attacker on map FrankaWheeze

vocal leaf
stiff beacon
#

@vocal leaf

#

Tinman clutched

vocal leaf
#

hmm i wonder if the lvl diff is making a difference

stiff beacon
#

He killed tinman but since s2 was still able to kill

vocal leaf
#

have you try using both tinman and grey at the laterals?

vocal leaf
stiff beacon
#

One moment

stiff beacon
#

It couldn’t even deal with the swarm NotLikeIfrit

elder flume
#

Those are my SP4 apparently

remote perch
#

I just dump unused 6* on mine

pure orchid
#

i used lee there cus im a genius !

narrow pendant
pure orchid
#

hello wifey :

stiff beacon
#

Marcile op, I can’t believe you let her die so easily

rapid junco
red cosmos
#

Help me decide how to play Yu's event

1️⃣4 Casters+4 Guards
2️⃣Blonde only
3️⃣AH
4️⃣4 operators
5️⃣Summons only (Everything that has summons)

maiden hound
#

nah i aint gonna be rood

red cosmos
#

Wisadel has summons, just a reminder

glass monolith
#

Nah I did win

nocturne cove
#

@narrow pendant @pure orchid @vital vessel @regal frost @next wigeon i assume no one is pulling except the free pulls?

vital vessel
#

i'm going first 6* on last day that's it 🥱

pure orchid
#

yup i justs free pullls

red cosmos
#

Seems like blondes

celest bluff
#

The blodening

narrow pendant
#

But thats just a maybe, like 30%

scarlet fulcrum
sturdy sable
south spindle
odd zenith
#

what is Yu's best skill?

void terrace
#

Damn is yu busted

void terrace
#

His second skill teleports all mobs around him onto his tile and bulks him up big time

#

His s3 provides global regeneration if you have 4 or more operators, and creates a long mapwide firewall that buffs your arts attacks across it

#

It also had the chance to remove enemy projectiles crossing it but its 20% so dont count on it eating a faust bolt or something critical

#

Depending if you are going for a a burn damage squad or if you just need some tech to teleport a boss into a weird tile

void terrace
#

Yu and global range gang is just busted. Didnt plan anything and just melted the boss through its damage resistance

sick stream
red cosmos
#

I finished the event with only blonde characters, then I cleared the boss with 4 operators (Laptop, Arturia, Ines and Specter alter), then I cleared it with only 3 op (laptop, Arturia, GG)

glass monolith
#

I feel like designer for this event maps shills Fuze s2 HellaKek

void terrace
#

For the necrosis buff?

limpid ore
#

s2 shenanigans

void terrace
#

The original yu

red cosmos
#

Arturia s2 and constant global necrosis

limpid ore
#

i called it

void terrace
#

well lmao how did no one think of this before yu

red cosmos
#

And way better than burn because its dots

limpid ore
#

because her s2 is whack

void terrace
#

Real

#

Yu's s3 is bullshit in its own right

#

It applies amiyas 1.5% hp regen buff

#

Globally on top of being an already strong brick skill

limpid ore
#

yes s2 gives ally with highest atk ability to deals 25% of her ATK as necrosis, problem the skill itself doesnt buff her ATK

#

-# the other 2 skills are just better tbh

void terrace
#

The yu s2 instant splitbox is also pretty cool

#

Lets short ranged guards like vivi and vina continue poking enemies from behind him even off skill

limpid ore
#

issue with that, that enemies might just maul him to death

void terrace
#

True but whe you run him with shu

#

And the nian sibling gang

#

Nian buffs his hp and shu's healing is great

limpid ore
#

tragodia does better at stalling on his own

void terrace
#

But yeah he is also kinda

void terrace
limpid ore
#

spawn cat to distract

void terrace
#

This is more to pull blocked enemies onto his own tile

#

So a dps can hide right behind him to poke

#

Pepe fans rejoice

#

Also for ops like zuo le who can hide behind him

#

And charge his slash

#

Or even lower down the barrel theres original chen LappDumb

#

Actually i may jusy try that for the kicks. Chen behind yu and he just sucks enemies onto himself for her to hit

limpid ore
#

BlazeSmug
🫴

void terrace
#

Yes but

#

Butttt

glass monolith
#

Okay but what if - Fuze S2

void terrace
#

LOL

limpid ore
#

when most of this event can just be done with blaze s2

void terrace
#

Its gonna be another lone trail event where the special stages get exponentially more bullshit isnt it

#

I remember going oh damn the lone trail event is so easy. Kristen is a weak boss

#

Untill she gets 8 balls to rub in your face on her S stage

limpid ore
#

kristen is boss with highest block size when all balls are caged

#

need like block count 9 or something just to hold her

glass monolith
#

(Reads Xingzhu kit) No wonder i forgot this event even has welfare operator

void terrace
rugged lava
#

this banner good or skip?

haughty flower
#

Okay banner. 1 good op, 1 op that crutches on said good op and forces them off their best skill.

limpid ore
#

just use the free 10 pulls you got from main screen

haughty flower
#

And yeah, just blow your free pulls. You'll get 1 a day for 13 more days anyways.

glass monolith
#

They mean "Free Roll" free pulls, not tickets in inventory

limpid ore
#

people being dyslexic and saying banner last for a month

haughty flower
#

I will make you diabetic.

glass monolith
#

Well 31th is month HellaKek

rugged lava
#

this lim banner is bad?

haughty flower
#

It's okay.

glass monolith
rugged lava
#

there is better banner then?

#

what is it?

glass monolith
#

Almost back to back M3, Exu limited, Phantom alter banners. Peak medic, Peak specialist / Sniper, Peak "I want to break game with some cat"

#

Boss was so hard I blind attempted the stage RedOmegaLul

haughty flower
limpid ore
haughty flower
#

What the Puzzle doing

limpid ore
#

BP doesnt need skill to do it

haughty flower
#

Wait why is bro even facing that way 💀

glass monolith
#

I didn't knew those portal things existed. And boss does SUCC from time to time so i need them to die

limpid ore
glass monolith
limpid ore
#

e1 lv1 is enough for dot

haughty flower
#

Does Ethan s1 work well or

glass monolith
#

If i wanted dot i would bring Ethan. I am big booooyyyy

formal creek
#

What skill yu and blaze alter to up M3 ?

haughty flower
#

And by want, I mean basically needs.

void terrace
#

I mean his s3 isnt horrendous

#

It does a bit of everything, buffing your ranged arts dealers

#

Global healing

#

Global elemental healing

#

And some tankiness for himself

#

If you are runnung the nian sibling gang you already have nian as your main brick

vocal leaf
#

i swear this is not another ulpi gladiia spam, she’s actually useful redirecting the chopsticks HellaKek

glass monolith
#

Boss consuming good thing is bullshit

limpid ore
#

now yanese only squad

narrow sun
#

does anyone have pot3+ Zuo Le S3M3 lvl90?

vocal leaf
#

what pot is this? CeobeConfused

narrow sun
#

i think??? thats 3

#

i need the redeployment pot

#

would appreciate if u could lend him to me, if he is mod3 as well ❤️

#

Kanae#1908

vocal leaf
#

ew he’s not m9, bad support, i don’t like setting non m9 operators RedOmegaLul

vocal leaf
narrow sun
#

now i just need to fix my skill issue

vocal leaf
#

im also broke, can’t get his skin, already got 2 off banners from yu, just a normal day in ak AstesiaBlank

narrow sun
#

rip

narrow sun
full terrace
kindred stirrup
#

Never minds I beated it!

glass monolith
#

Now make auto for it HellaKek (Oh wait i confused it with OD-7, look alike to me)

rigid osprey
#

Who should I swap out?

glass monolith
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Based on what you struggling with. I personally dislike Windlit because his underwhelming kit

rigid osprey
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I do too, the battery thing is limited and situational and it seems like his kit is centered around it,

full terrace
# rigid osprey Who should I swap out?

Tbh you are not at the point where you need to concern yourself with teambuilding at the moment, because at E0 most units do the same thing, you'll feel no difference even if you swap them around, but if you really want advice for this, you can use this as reference #strategy message or you can ask around in #help. Also high stars ≠ better units, especially the 5 Stars.

rigid osprey
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Corroserum is too expensive too and his attack just seems too situational

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Maybe I’m wrong tho

rigid osprey
glass monolith
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Arknights is more skill based that "just throw latest unit at it". Well of course we have units which uninstall balance of stages which come before them but it demands at least basic degree of understanding HellaKek

full terrace
rigid osprey
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So power creep is real but not consuming?

full terrace
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Yes

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It's more skill than stats, it's a good game

rigid osprey
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I’m enjoying it so far. It’s pretty hard too which most gacha games are not lol

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Thanks for the help GifPanSipping

full terrace
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Thats the thing, since the game is skill-based, it can be hard if you are not familiar with the mechanics and the inner workings.

glass monolith
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I recall when i started this game and entire physical/arts just flew right over me. So i tried to use unit with DEF on enemy doing Arts damage and got salty from it dying in 2 hits HellaKek

rigid osprey
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I feel like there is a lot to learn. The game is pretty complicated ngl

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Like I don’t even know what’s going on in the base… lol 😆

glass monolith
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Depends on how far you into game likely "nothing"/"almost nothing" HellaKek But when you build it up it is powerful source of daily EXP and LMD (making stages which give them as reward obsolete as you will be hunting for materials base don't provide instead)

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Damn why this Reminiscence enemy in event is so healthy FiaDed

steel prairie
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how is Lins new mod ???

lofty stag
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Ass

eager tapir
lofty stag
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alchemist skill damage is unsourced

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hence thornstar doesnt work

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as it does not deem the s2 dmg to be from anyone

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even if it is arts

eager tapir
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oh rip

glass monolith
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And auto is done. Now hibernate till 24th HellaKek

full terrace
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I farm alloys 😏

vocal leaf
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3OP red haired trust farm and none of them are yu 🥹

wintry gulch
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yet another event boss that gets stomped by ulpi gladiia SkadiDaijoubu

rugged lava
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all the last 3 stages spend 21 sanity, but is it true that only the boss stage that is the most efficient for farming drop? or they r just the same?

cedar hound
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No

wintry gulch
cedar hound
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Salt is lowest, and less demand than device

rugged lava
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integrated device is better to buy using green certificate though?

cedar hound
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How much can you buy it using greencert?

rugged lava
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like 10+ a month

cedar hound
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How much can you farm device in event?

limpid ore
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100

cedar hound
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That should answer itself

limpid ore
cedar hound
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You can get 10 in a day vs 10 in a month

rugged lava
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then, what is best to buy with green cert

elder flume
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All of tier 1

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Headhunt tickets

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Recruits

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Then i just save for next month

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If you need more mats sure

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As long as you can satisfy the monthly cycle

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15 is pretty bad for a month when you need like 300-400 total for the ops you might use

rugged lava
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saving? what is it you want to buy in tier 2?

elder flume
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Headhunt n recruit

rugged lava
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not material?

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i thought it is priority

elder flume
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You can get mats from events like these

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So its slightly redundant

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It gets worse when you dont actively pull banners

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Since only recruit will carry your green cert

dapper hedge
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If youre new, consider buying these 2 if you have green certs to spare, the rest has plenty other places you can get from

jovial nest
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not bad. i like the mechanic is like a tug of war

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with a huge payoff