strategy

[gritty shale]

Ok

[full terrace]

Do you have better 6 Stars other than him or not

[rapid junco]

Wis aboose

[full terrace]

If not then it's fine to raise him

[gritty shale]

I actually borrowed her to clear the stage haha like her

I wish I can get her 🥲

[full terrace]

You can, but if you are super new it's not really recommended to get her

If you have a stable team already and you only want her for QoL then you can grab her

Or if you whale

[gritty shale]

Why so?

Hard to raise?

Btw guys how many years to raise strong operators?

[full terrace]

Nah its because she consumes too much resources. The resources you'll be spending on her can get you like 5 or 6 strong units.

[gritty shale]

Noted ✅️

So who should I raise? Currently I'm raising Amiya Beanstalk Mountain .. etc

[full terrace]

Depends

[full terrace]

Generally, the stronger 6 Stars

[gritty shale]

Okay

[celest bluff]

This isn't warthunder brah

[maiden hound]

~2 weeks with fully upgraded facilities

[celest bluff]

Assuming you aren't already have the cash at the ready

You will eventually reach the point where you sitting on billion LMD

[gritty shale]

But operators upgrades require so much LMD

[maiden hound]

good base can do ~60k/day
that's ~420k/week

along with ~210k exp

[gritty shale]

Cool

I'm trying to build a good base

Going for 252

[scarlet mortar]

plus you get a fuckton of LMD from new events

and ISs ig

[gritty shale]

Is there a stage where doesn't require sanity?

[scarlet mortar]

heart of surging flames, aka OF stages

[gritty shale]

Also IS stages right?

[scarlet mortar]

yh

[patent prairie]

I have E2'ed Mostima from uhhh 2022 or 2021, is Mostima good in current meta? events, late chapters, etc

[scarlet mortar]

tldr no

[gritty shale]

But I click on regular operation but doesn't function :/

Let me show you once I finish a stage

🤨🥲

[scarlet mortar]

she has niche utility in S3M3 mod3, being able to inflict slow on enemies while they're invis/invuln

[maiden hound]

99% -mspd waow!

[scarlet mortar]

historically that's seen use twice in CC#12 and CCB#2 max, but besides that it's not general-use enough to be called a good skill

its cycling is ass and she has no damage offskill

whether or not her global -mspd makes or breaks strats for most people is questionable

[gritty shale]

Check it doesn't work :/

[scarlet mortar]

click explore?

[maiden hound]

select difficulty first

[scarlet mortar]

oh yh pick a diff

[gritty shale]

Oh ok alr

[patent prairie]

damn, waifugaming did not pay off

[scarlet mortar]

eh you can use her as a support slot, she's just gonna be second fiddle to your dps

[narrow pendant]

Pick better waifus

[scarlet mortar]

at least your waifu isn't ho'olheyak arknight

[patent prairie]

Look, it was 2020 version of me, I am a changed man now

[full terrace]

By the "strong operators" I think they meant the limited units and not the resources required to raise a unit, because the convo they had with me earlier was about Wisadel so I'm guessing the context here is "Limited" units, and since they said operators (plural), it can take year(s) alright.

[patent prairie]

what's wrong with the snake

[maiden hound]

nothing going for her except for aesthetics

[scarlet mortar]

cycling is less ass but nevertheless, ass

[umbral dagger]

While she can apply Levitate to lots of enemies with S3, she loses on duration to a free red cert Op at E1 Skill Level 1

[scarlet mortar]

her damage isn't allat either

[patent prairie]

well same for Hellagur (I am reading that the guy I really wanted to pull is ass).
Not Hella Gud anymore

[umbral dagger]

The one boss where you're like "Wow, Levitate is good!" you don't use the supposed Levitate-focused Op because her duration is dogwater

[patent prairie]

ah, bad stat-wise, I thought there are lore or fandom reasons to dislike her or her fans

[umbral dagger]

Lore and fandom reasons are the only reasons to like her

[scarlet mortar]

well lorewise she's kind of a bitch

but some people are into that so

[narrow pendant]

Its 2025 old man :ya:

[patent prairie]

My current pick would be Raidian

but I missed her event by couple months

[maiden hound]

dominant evil silt tounge snake mommy outfreaks you asmr

[umbral dagger]

To be clear, both her and Mostima can be used for niche strategies and are going to be generally competent/powerful enough for lots of content.

They just won't have any presence in most high-end content, and there are options that are vastly more powerful than them available now for roughly the same costs.

[maiden hound]

she's a welfare? so brace for another mid kit

[narrow pendant]

U didnt miss anything

[umbral dagger]

She's still in NPC jail - she (and the other Elite Ops we can't roll on) were exclusive to Stronghold Protocol. Assuming you're talking about who I think you are.

[narrow pendant]

Shes not real

You cant like, get her

At all

[patent prairie]

Ah, I thought they made her an operator and gave her for free?
The quad-armed pigeon

[narrow pendant]

Shes in stronghold and in few of ch15 stages

[maiden hound]

not yet

[scarlet mortar]

she'll be real in 6 months

[patent prairie]

OOOO

SO I DID NOT MISS HER

[narrow pendant]

:clueless:

She wont, wdym?

[scarlet mortar]

IS6

[narrow pendant]

Shes the welfare of it? No way right

If u say shes temp recruit like sharpeye or sum imma kill u

:realmad:

[scarlet mortar]

she drops alongside IS6 and you're supposed to play IS to raise her

not sure if she's the welfare

[umbral dagger]

[Citation Needed]

[scarlet mortar]

or if she'll be playable outside it

[umbral dagger]

Like, if that's real, I'd be interested in seeing more

[scarlet mortar]

but she's not gonna be jailed to stronghold at least

[pure orchid]

can we have more please

[rapid junco]

Wait for more, I only send when I found something good

[pure orchid]

do u kno rubens

[rapid junco]

What ? are you into grul with guitar or something

[pure orchid]

not particularly

they just sound nice

you are not into girl with gutar?

[rapid junco]

I'm more into deep voiced.
I don't really care they can do musical tools or not

[pure orchid]

very fair

[void terrace]

Hmm is SA module still worth it

I literally havent touched him in so long

On that note are any of these 6 star modules worth getting

Was considering quibai or silverash

Maybe eyjalter or reed but their effects arn't anything game breaking

[elder flume]

Ray

[scarlet mortar]

rosa.....

if you use jess you'll want her mod1

gives her a bonus niche

[umbral dagger]

None of them are like Logos Delta where it fully brings him online, if that's what you mean by "worth it".

[scarlet mortar]

i mean most of those ops are off-meta

besides the meta ops mentioned it's just down to whether you like using the rest of them

[vocal leaf]

if you play IS high difficulty, yes, he’s the best starter for gvg runs, but even then you can play without him

[rich plover]

Might need help with HS S 4 CM

Where do I put those pumps?

[gritty shale]

Should we finish the events stages or it's not worth it?

[narrow pendant]

Events are basicaly always worth it

Except few exceptions that you'd be told if they are here

[gritty shale]

Maybe better farm than finish the event?

[narrow pendant]

You farm the event for mats and currency, and use that currency to buy things in the shop

[rich plover]

Better get those medals, especially reruns

[narrow pendant]

Event shops are the based thing for newbies

[rich plover]

Based for anyone really

More materials is always good

[gritty shale]

How to play reruns?

[rich plover]

Wdym

[gritty shale]

Nvm

[vocal leaf]

depends on where are you killing enemies and boss

[rich plover]

Yea I think middle might be better

[gritty shale]

How do I know which server I'm using?

There are two CN and Global right?

[scarlet mortar]

5

[rich plover]

CN, TW, Global....

[scarlet mortar]

CN, global, JP, KR and taiwan

each server uses a different language

[gritty shale]

Server is automatically selected right?

[scarlet mortar]

it's just based on which client you downloaded

[rich plover]

Yea, you are most likely Global

[gritty shale]

I see

[gritty shale]

Playstore ofc

[scarlet mortar]

client being the app itself

[gritty shale]

I see

[rich plover]

You can also download TW version from the playstore if you are downloading from Taiwan

[gritty shale]

So there are different events based on the server

[rich plover]

And so on

[gritty shale]

Ok I see thanks

[scarlet mortar]

app stores typically region-lock you out of most other ones depending on where you set your app store

[gritty shale]

I'm using emulator on pc

[rich plover]

It doesn't matter

What matters is the apk

[scarlet mortar]

if you get the other clients you can access the other servers too

some players here have accounts on all servers lmao

[gritty shale]

Lmfao hhh

I can't manage more than 1

[rich plover]

Anyways, tips on HS S 4 CM?

[scarlet mortar]

ok minor asterisk, CN has two clients

but anw

[rich plover]

what

[scarlet mortar]

there's the "official" server which requires a chinese ID, and then there's the bili client

[rich plover]

The latter is not required? Just your Bilibili account?

[scarlet mortar]

you can't add people across those servers so they're genuinely separate

yh probs, i haven't tried it

[gritty shale]

I see

I mean what's the reason for creating separate servers

I prefer being in one global game

[rich plover]

Btw, I recommend you head to #help

This channel is more for clearing maps

[gritty shale]

Yeah I'm also clearing the maps

[vocal leaf]

they were created at different times

[gritty shale]

I thought abt discussing the events coming

[rich plover]

But you were discussing about server difference

Anyways

[vocal leaf]

that’s why we are 6 months behind cn

but tw is like 2-3 months behind us

[scarlet mortar]

-# not for long

[rich plover]

Tbf, AK is pre-Genshin, so gachas before that tend to make their games locally before branching out

[scarlet mortar]

uma musume just released their global server, for sth more topical in the gacha sphere

2 year gap lmfao

[vocal leaf]

as someone who came from alchemy stars it’s funny when global was the one ahead of cn, but at the end they had to eos

[narrow pendant]

Alchemy stars🥹

I loved it

[vocal leaf]

imagine if AK apply the AS strat to catch up, leaving the old server starve for content while shoving in the new one stacked banners back to back

[narrow pendant]

Imagine AK goes the pgr route

[wintry gulch]

I wouldn’t mind having triple patches tbh

Main issue with PGR triple patches was all the characters competing for SS and sigs

Main issue with Arknights would be sanity overflow and new players not being able to complete new events in time

[glass monolith]

Why the fuck this chat is off-topic 3 now

Anyways. Now with infinite shop reruns, there is value in doing EX/S etc stages for missions for shop currency for infinite material Now i can speedrun rerun shop and F off into AP/Chips mid rerun

[haughty flower]

I blame wis'adel

[glass monolith]

I blame Ines

[rich plover]

Afkable for that stage?

[vocal leaf]

have you tried looking in youtube? i’m sure there’s something there

[rich plover]

Lemme check the updated ones

[gritty shale]

Any ideas which op best suited for this stage?

[vocal leaf]

you can do it very easily with your team, just use some practice plans

don’t even need a guide

[rich plover]

Yea true

Just make sure I lanehold bottom

This a good reference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nmaq0H8c2w

[vocal leaf]

it’s just a reference, do however you prefer

well if you want to follow that, go ahead

it’s an easy stage

oh i just noticed you were talking about S

[rich plover]

Yea I was confused as to why you posted EX

But anyways, I think I'm struggling with laneholding bottom

[vocal leaf]

my bad, i redid that one because the mission, didn’t do the S again

[vocal leaf]

degen cannot do that part?

[rich plover]

Yea Degen can do it

Just need to make sure she is positioned correctly

[rose crescent]

I need clear for 5-3

[rich plover]

Finally got all the medals

Surprised the Sui boss didn't used its spears

[haughty flower]

If you're lazy, borrow Texas alt or Yato alt. Specialists, fast redeploy ops. Guess what they do.

If you want to go about things the hard way, vanguards in the middle, where the casters can't reach, then melantha if you levelled her for whatever reason, or gravel + a guard for each edge.

[rose crescent]

Texas alt?

[haughty flower]

Texas Alter, yes.

[vocal leaf]

you can use jaye too

[rich plover]

Ah yes, Jaye a laneholder

[haughty flower]

Then you brick your tp setup :realmad:

[vocal leaf]

use gnosis sa combo

[rose crescent]

I just level up her La Pluma...

[haughty flower]

La Pluma can probably kill a caster? Place her at the very bottom of the right side.

If she can't, bring gravel to bait for her.

[rose crescent]

I don't have more operators

[vocal leaf]

no gravel? what about yato?

[rose crescent]

Hmm

[vocal leaf]

yato the vg, not the alt

[rose crescent]

Can try that?

But in Practice

[strong fjord]

im very confused as to why i have one less block on all my operators

[umbral dagger]

Rainy season decreases it by 1

[strong fjord]

Ahh mb i didnt see that part

[glass monolith]

I am not sure how or why I managed to keep it clean water till final most waves

[odd grotto]

need help with this stage (h12-1), tried to copy other strategies but they overwhelm me

[teal moon]

why are you borrowing Thorns?

[crisp bolt]

Old strat smh

That's a lot of medics. Are you dying to the phase transition?

[glass monolith]

Probably gets blasted by phase 2 global bullshit go

[teal moon]

@odd grotto where do you lose during the stage?

[full terrace]

Borrow Texas alter/Yato alter and assassinate these guys

There are plenty of these guys in this stage, and thats the main issue

Aside from that, just make good use of your Saria, Cuora, Specter, and Vulpis to block-investigate the civilians

Saria and Cuora on Damazti duty

Logos, Reed, and Mlynar burst everything

[odd grotto]

Ill try thanks

[rugged lava]

what is this loadbearing?

[south spindle]

To increase mental toil limit

They don’t really affect your operators in battle

[rugged lava]

then, this one is just for nothing? no buff at ll?

[glass monolith]

You put operators in there to buff your kleptomania abilities

[narrow sun]

you will pick up items called "thoughts" as rewards for battles, how much loadbearing you have determines how much you can carry

if you're too weighed down, you will be debuffed

there is no drawback to putting operators here

[lofty stag]

…yet

The debuffs come at d18 no need to worry now

[odd grotto]

I DID IT, it was hard af but tex alt was a game changer

[full terrace]

Congrats!

[glass monolith]

Gratz, easiest H12 down

[full terrace]

"No drawback" is not true. When you play at d17/d18, you must take a cursed relic and the loadbearing relic is the most harmless one, so ideally you want that one. Taking that one means there is a "drawback" in assigning operators as loadbearing operators.

[rugged lava]

then, which is more beneficial?

[narrow sun]

youre not playing at d17 are you, dont worry about it

[full terrace]

Assign your best operators there as loadbearing operators

Start with Tin Man too

He gives +17 when you E2 him

[narrow sun]

r u recommending they borrow tin man lol

[full terrace]

Thats exactly what I did yes

[rugged lava]

today is like my first time playing this stuff. what is d17 anyway?

[umbral dagger]

The next to highest difficulty

[full terrace]

Facing Soul 17

[full terrace]

Anyway, when you start a new run, borrow a Tin Man

And Wisadel and Beanstalk

This is the classic triple borrow

Then do the usual routine

Finding Shrivels Encounter, grabbing Lamp

Etc

[narrow sun]

til you can triple borrow wtf

[vocal leaf]

who gets the spike with that start? wis or tinman?

[full terrace]

Tin Man

Until d12 he can take care of the Spines

Above that you need to start with Click and Gummy

But anyway, seems like the guy is new and playing on low diff so

[full terrace]

Actually both Wis and Tin Man*

But mainly Tin Man

[vocal leaf]

i see, i only used the sniper/caster/defender start with nara, i don’t like the spec/vg one but if you don’t have tin man it’s better to use that squad

it’s pointless if you don’t get the shrivel encounter tho

[void terrace]

Really is SA a good starter now?

Is it his second skill?

I play IS a lot so if he is i will get his mod

[vocal leaf]

for gvg squad with instant e2, you can ask in #is-station

[full terrace]

12 plates for his siblings

I see a Shu colored chopsticks on the left side

[south spindle]

Silverash and Mlynar GVG squad instant E2 have S3

Can kill spines and everything

[void terrace]

I usually take hoederer for his bulk

Could try silverash i guess

[south spindle]

Well you don’t open Hoederer

He’s considered the strongest guard but he can’t take spines and stuff early

[turbid gorge]

Should I build my Beanstalk just for this or is Myrtle okay as a replacement?

I have been having issues with teambuilding because in the first half, I don't have enough hope to get operators I actually need

[haughty flower]

Myrtle lacks the ability to block on skill, the safety of being a ranged unit, having a reviving summon, and the ability to summon multiple blockers on skill, for the sake of extra DP production when your squad size is 3.

Utilizing this information, I think we can agree she's a relatively poor replacement.

[turbid gorge]

so should I just build Beanstalk, then?

[full terrace]

Neither. You should just borrow her. Her job is mainly to help you get things rolling, taking you to like F3 safely. Once you are there, you would have drafted your better units, or at least have the Hope for it, thats when you bench her.

[turbid gorge]

Okay
I'll just see if I could find anyone who has her in their support units

[full terrace]

Try #friend-id maybe, best of luck there

[turbid gorge]

okay thank you

[spare eagle]

Since my base already has some leveled stuff like office, I don’t think I can do a 2/5/2. what’s the next best base layout?

[lofty stag]

You can still do 252

It’ll be slightly less good

But still way better than alternative

[spare eagle]

I don’t see it possible to remove my 3rd power though

[lofty stag]

Downgrade dorms

Assuming max right

You can downgrade

To 2111

Do you have proviso?

[spare eagle]

Lvl 1 dorms would not be enough

[lofty stag]

Which also means

Downgrading fax

Factories

[spare eagle]

I see. To what level?

[lofty stag]

Max right I think can do 32222

Do you have proviso?

[spare eagle]

Sorry I am new. What’s proviso?

[full terrace]

You can check #r-i-i-c for a pinned message, I think there is a video there showing you how to convert to 252

[lofty stag]

A 5 star unit whose base skill is tremendously helpful for lmd production

[full terrace]

From a maxed 243*

[lofty stag]

This too

[spare eagle]

I don’t think so. I’ll look into it. Thanks!

[full terrace]

And yea get Proviso when you can

[spare eagle]

Normal chance? Or side story?

Wow that base skill is good

[lofty sundial]

Proviso is on regular standard banner

you get her from gacha

[rugged lava]

in this game, is it priority to level up and mastery for each unit, or just invest resources into E2 as many useful 6 star as possible?

becoz i also still invest e2 for 4 star too

so i wonder if E2 lvl 1 no mastery for stages, is clearable or no

if yes, i wonder if the former choice is even better or not

[full terrace]

You prioritize the stronger 6 Stars that you would actually use. Raise them to E2 and have the skill(s) M3-ed. Generally you dont need to E2 the 4 Stars, you raise them to E1 and their base skills would be unlocked thats what that matters. E2 Lv1 equals to E1 Lv Max so its kinda pointless to E2 a unit unless you are prepared to raise them to appropriate level and give them masteries and modules.

[pure orchid]

When i saw the table, i paused the video and immediately started counting as well lol

[vocal leaf]

which 4 stars tho? some are considered better than others, for example may is better than jessica, other good 4 stars are ethan, totter, click, purestream/perfumer

btw do not raise crownslayer, vigil and chen

[rugged lava]

as of now, i only have myrtle e2

[vocal leaf]

oh one more thing, i saw you unlocked mountain module, try not to do that as new player, modules are extremely expensive and for him that was a luxury, he doesn’t really need it, unlike ops like SA or Degen that actually benefit a lot from it

[scarlet mortar]

your prio alternates between raising dps and bulk for tanking; your dps is usually a 6* but not necessarily if you only have ass 6*s

since new players start with an E2 5* voucher tch privileged players these days you could always E2 your best 5* first and borrow an E2 6* dps

that's usually what people recc for an easy time

the rest of your squad should be well-rounded, 3-4*s are efficient to raise since they work fine at E1 for general content

also you have all the basic roles with 3*s

[wintry gulch]

I personally don’t like this approach (and E2 voucher itself) since it kinda ruins the earlygame experience and prevents you from needing to use your brain for anything

And thus not developing game sense as well

[scarlet mortar]

i don't like it either

[dapper hedge]

Eh that just how it is when the game is like half a decade old

Gotta make it so new players dont feel left behind too far

[scarlet mortar]

it's the generic advice, people could go off the beaten path

[wintry gulch]

6* selector is kinda enough for that I feel like

[lilac steppe]

After borrow, and cleared most chapter, we can go back doing challenge mode for earlier chapter using not-meta ops, thus, still can get the "experience" :), thats me tho.

[wintry gulch]

True, but most newbies are just here to use #help but they push meta and optimization and stuff

[scarlet mortar]

i've kinda come to terms with it tbh

[wintry gulch]

and the newbies just end up following the advice of the sweats, because it’s good advice, even if it’s a bit harmful (idk if that’s the right word) in the long run

[scarlet mortar]

we could always add a disclaimer that the meta advice isn't absolute and your account won't vaporize if you do otherwise

[vocal leaf]

but what should we do then? tell them to not touch their 6stars and use only 3stars?

[scarlet mortar]

but that's sorta meta though

minmaxing moment

[celest bluff]

I keep remembering about "nearl (guardian) are useless because Saria exist"

Was that on gamepress

[full terrace]

This is the game's intended approach for newbies nowadays yeah, it literally gave you an instant E2 Voucher and a free 6 Star selector so that you could catch up.

[haughty flower]

Nearl can replace Saria's role in nearly every strategy that uses Saria, outside of a handful of exceedingly high pressure cases where the margins by which Saria survives hits with dr and her extra def is still slim.

Just saying.
She's still not as good as Saria, though.

[scarlet mortar]

i mean it's more like, people generally want a brick more than a guardian

and nearl is not a brick

[haughty flower]

Really? I never needed a brick my entire campaign playthrough of AK even in H stages, but maybe that's because I could cheat with Ulpi.

[scarlet mortar]

every time people come here asking why their defender isn't tanking well it's always that they're using a guardian or sentry

[haughty flower]

Anastasio boss was hilarious.

[scarlet mortar]

tbf cuora's too overspecced for how accessible she is

[turbid gorge]

Should I build Stainless

[narrow pendant]

Niche
Prio other better ops if u habe

[turbid gorge]

uhh

I don't know who else to

I've heard to not prioritise Ch'en

[full terrace]

Yah no she is outdated, there are plenty stronger ops

[turbid gorge]

I also have Eunectes but why would I build her and what is she used for

[full terrace]

What do you have there anyway

[turbid gorge]

wait let me check

[full terrace]

Not Eunectes either

I mean, Eunectes is super good in base when E2-ed but thats faaaarr from your priority right now

[turbid gorge]

Who to raise

[full terrace]

Marcille S2 is pretty good Arts dps, and Viviana with Module is also decently good ground dps. Rosmontis is really good in IS.

With the IS Module

[turbid gorge]

So do I raise Marcille first and then Rosmontis?

because I do have Walter in my acc along with Logos, Lappland, Goldenglow and Ebenholz for some reason

idk why I built Ebenholz after I got Logos

[full terrace]

If you are not playing IS, then dont raise Rosmontis. I'd say yeah raise Marcille for the S2, her damage is more or less Eyja S2 she will carry your dps in the mean time.

Have you been pulling Kernel btw? You should stop doing that

[turbid gorge]

no

imsaving for apple pie and leumen (and tragodia if possible)

[full terrace]

Oh then you are just raising ops for QoL at this point, ignore what I said earlier

Stainless is good, Vulpis is good in that case

[haughty flower]

Why is this #help 2 now

[turbid gorge]

I'm also somehow struggling in IS 5 but I think that's just my skillissue

[dapper hedge]

Always has been

[full terrace]

If you play IS5 a lot then raise Rosmontis and feel her power

[turbid gorge]

okay

[haughty flower]

Help turns into #strategy half the time and then vise versa, channel names may as well be cosmetic 🥀

[turbid gorge]

I play IS when I run out of sanity or if I just feel like fun
Also how do I clear dark Amiya stage what is that

[haughty flower]

That's ending 5. Highly recommend you complete at least endings 1, 2 and 3 before that.

[full terrace]

You can ask others for that for now, I havent touched IS5 since Expansion II

[turbid gorge]

I literally drop my mudrock and she gets obliterated

[haughty flower]

It'd be even better if you did ending 4 but ending 4 is arguably harder than ending 5.

[turbid gorge]

I think I did 1 and 2

I don't know what 3 is though

[haughty flower]

Because you didn't stack enough relics, besides the fact that mudrock is a fairly outdated enmity op.

[turbid gorge]

true

and she consumes my DP like I ingest mints for no reason on a tuesday during class

the only other operator who might match how tanky she is I could think of is maybe Ulpianus

[haughty flower]

Look up the ending guide on YT. Eckogen in particular will cover how to reach it then clear it.

[turbid gorge]

okay

[haughty flower]

Ulpianus is far tankier than both juggernauts, then Eblana also blows them well out of the water.
Juggernauts aren't actually the best statsticks anymore, besides being unhealable and fodder-dependent.

[turbid gorge]

oh

Also I either have brain damage, or I just play niche characters a lot
Doc often carries the first half of IS for me if I am trying to play without Wiš'adel in my team

I think I just have brain damage

[full terrace]

I'd call that "playstyle" if anything, dont discredit yourself

[turbid gorge]

I could probably use Kroos+Cardigan in the first half and it would work

[full terrace]

Not playing the meta does not mean you have skill issue

If you still reach the endings, you are good

Thats all that matters

[turbid gorge]

True, but I feel kind of strange clearing with Doc
Nobody I know uses him for IS or the first half of stages with Londonium cannons

[haughty flower]

You're clearing with a subpar op. Not many people run him because he's subpar. You have enough from the other ops it covers his weaknesses.

[full terrace]

There are many ways to solving stages, if using him means you could clear those stages, then use him, ignore what others say, you play the way you want it.

[haughty flower]

It's like running Lessing for boss duelling for example, it's functionally actually workable but almost no one does it for rather obvious reasons.

[maiden hound]

don't fix what's not broken

[full terrace]

Not "fixing" but rather, dont "ruin the experience"

You play to have fun, your solution might not be optimal or the best in the world but who cares

[turbid gorge]

I think I have a Doc bias just because he carried me a lot before I got Wiš'adel
And before Doc, it was Pallas/Silverash (not really tanky enough and costs more) or Nearl/Shalem (tanky enough but can't clear trash mob, also costs more)

[maiden hound]

technically all of these are suboptimal

[full terrace]

Yah then use him. I know others who play with worse niche such as @wicked minnow with his Povertyknights 😏

[haughty flower]

Pallas is 💀 but whatever.

[full terrace]

You are good

[haughty flower]

Shileds still isn't as bad as the chucklefuck we call ReChord imo.

[maiden hound]

rechord? more like trash recycler

[haughty flower]

Me when I hear of Savage usage for the first time ever.

[turbid gorge]

I only managed Episode 10 after the R6 collab event and I mostly used Doc/Tachanka/Fuze (mostly Doc because low DP and good self-sustain, maybe get hit by the cannon a few times but survives) for the first half while Myrtle prints DP, then carried with Ceobe/Silverash/Irene/Hoshiguma for the second

[full terrace]

Idk I think @astral cosmos is rather skilled, his Badknights niche choice tho.. I dont know about that 😂

[haughty flower]

Bro has the 2022 roster strats.

[maiden hound]

i swore gvg have better options

[haughty flower]

Is Shileds bad? I know ReChord's actually quite competent but I thought Shileds was too

[lapis hornet]

hey guys

[full terrace]

Shileds is good, his niche just eh..

But who cares anyway, he is having fun

[lapis hornet]

i heard from is station pillars that arf was a fraud can someone confirm

[full terrace]

And thats what that matters

[haughty flower]

This is true

[turbid gorge]

My best ops at the time

[turbid gorge]

Also this might sound strange but I still sometimes use Doc to clear stages where Myrtle doesn’t print enough DP to start the round off, but the mobs come by too fast and do damage that some other ops like Gladiia can’t tank
I’m sorry I just have major skillissue
But if it works, it works I guess

[haughty flower]

That niche was entirely killed off by the agent subclass.

Like, buried under 6 feet level of taken over.

[vocal leaf]

arf is a fraud because is a wisadel spammer

[turbid gorge]

My cantabile isn’t tanky enough and I don’t have Ines
Perhaps Surfer would have higher survivability?

[haughty flower]

Cantabile should not be falling to early stage fodder especially if Myrtle is still in your squad.

[full terrace]

I mean you already have Canta, might as well wait til you get Ines

[haughty flower]

Heck are you doing to my poor baby? Putting her in the middle of Hell itself?

Bird autocorrected to baby but you know what, all good, she's my favorite anyways.

[scarlet mortar]

the f in arflanyr stands for fraudmaxxing

(real)

[full terrace]

Real

[south spindle]

Arf is a fraud because he stole my banking information

Please I want my identity back

[wicked minnow]

i'll take this as a compliment

[full terrace]

It is a compliment 😏

I mean, not many people can play with weaker units and/or limited resources, so anyone who can play with weird niche and thrive, is definitely skilled in my eyes

I know coz I make low-end clears, even with 1 super carry, playing with weaker units is still tricky

[glass monolith]

Why do you want debts back?

[wicked minnow]

the low end clears you make are like 0 investment clears. it's a bit cooked mad respect for it

[full terrace]

Hmm you can get 8000 Orundum per month doing AO

[lapis hornet]

never gonna happen in practice

unless you skip all events

and never build anything

[astral cosmos]

shileds is good pleyer
I'm only good when I actually try to be

nowadays I don't really try because I'm kinda lazy most of the time but i'd actually cook back then with i.e. RS-8

that should pretty much be the case for almost everyone tbh. if you try hard enough you become gud

[lapis hornet]

wdf dalao chat

but no one to help me with rs8

[glass monolith]

Because i don't even remember what is RS8, we having HS9

[full terrace]

Ride Silberneherze

[glass monolith]

Break the ice 2?

[full terrace]

Yeh

HS is Here Sow

And BP is Bath of Pife

[glass monolith]

BP is wednesday icon sniper

[full terrace]

According to wiki, it's Beacon Pathway

[somber falcon]

since the PL initial is already taken

[lilac steppe]

Who is "Doc" you guys talkinh about, the main character or op?

Eh, we got Docta, 5 star OP! I just checked wiki...

[celest bluff]

What was PL

Doctah and Doc (FRENCH)

[full terrace]

Preluding Light

[odd grotto]

is it even possible without suzuran in the middle row? cuz i cant take her and wis so i struggle a bit

should be h13-4

[teal moon]

yes, it's possible without suzuran

where do you fail in the stage?

[void terrace]

Also are you using suzuran for the slow or the damage

And whats the rest of your squad like

Wis should carry most of the stage herself

[teal moon]

I remember his squad, he should be able even without supporters

[royal rose]

How do I get good at IS really fast?

[scarlet mortar]

-# step 1, slow down

beyond the basics it's kinda just hope management and raising enough ops to not be cucked by below average voucher RNG

[void terrace]

Hope patience is really a big thing

[umbral dagger]

I'd say it...depends on why you want to be good? If you're wanting to simply clear reward tracks as fast and efficiently as possible, you can find various guides on Youtube about which operators work well in a given IS theme and what some speed strats might be (IS5, in particular, has some "no fight" runs that are very short).

If you simply want to play at a very high level and be able to get Diff 18 clears of all endings with whatever Ops you get given...I think that's mostly just down to spending more time doing it. however, you can watch clears on Youtube where they'll usually show their Ops and collectibles, and then you can use that to know what you should be aiming for as you play; doing so will speed up your learning.

[odd grotto]

ended up doing it with this team + wis, 1 pixel from losing, prolly the hardest stage ever without virtuosa or suzu

[somber falcon]

you're only using 3 dmg dealer, ofc it'd be hard

[odd grotto]

i tried multiple combination, without suzuran or virtuosa ur only choice is to tank and heal, and yea im not gonna take them with wisadel open

[teal moon]

I'm pretty sure Saria+Cuora+another laneholder would have been enough

[somber falcon]

people did that stage even before virt exists
and with lots of strats without suzu

[odd grotto]

kinda ez when u have the right ops

[somber falcon]

you straight up have mlynar and vina

[vocal leaf]

yeah i did that stage with only male operators, easy stage

[scarlet mortar]

the right ops, such as ling + exfed

[somber falcon]

with naran and and exe and reed for swarms

[scarlet mortar]

[glass monolith]

Good old times when we didn't had "true damage but not really but nobody resist it anyway logos module OP" ops

[teal moon]

hey, is that Suzuran

[glass monolith]

She was not hurt during that operation and recieved bunch of pats on head

[scarlet mortar]

clearly that op is naruzus

[teal moon]

it's just that the guy said Virtuosa/Suzuran were fundamental to the stage clear

[wicked minnow]

suzuran or virtuosa seems to be required by the looks of it. key and lock mechanism if you will. quite curious

[teal moon]

and we were proving him wrong lol

[glass monolith]

Well suzu just just "1.5x or whatever more daamge boss barely moving cuz he busy slaying your ass"

rdlt Just Wisadel

[scarlet mortar]

jarvis look up arkrec and send the maleknights H13-4 clear

[teal moon]

we know, but does he know?

[wicked minnow]

i really like the 5* release only sniperknights clear of this stage

[glass monolith]

THE WHAT?

[scarlet mortar]

yh people do that

[vocal leaf]

you know it was hard when minus had to bring his AH

[scarlet mortar]

was it miki actually

[glass monolith]

I was simply not in mode during chapter 12 because i hate when event gimmicks are "fuck your DP"

[scarlet mortar]

https://youtu.be/j_RKZ7gn4CQ

it was miki

[vocal leaf]

i remember a birdknights clear too

[wicked minnow]

it's such a cinema clear

[narrow sun]

exusiai so bad she might as well be a 5 star???

[somber falcon]

that's y1 snipers, not release
misinfo smh 🚮

[wicked minnow]

oh damn :caught:

[somber falcon]

mods, brazil his balls

[scarlet mortar]

it also has 6*s

[wicked minnow]

uhhhh, my memory is freeing up space for my exams coming up

[scarlet mortar]

i knew it was miki though, nobody else is insane enough to do y1 snipers

[glass monolith]

caughtknight

[narrow sun]

dang didnt know schwarz had that arrow tech

[scarlet mortar]

all ranged ops can do that, but generally schwarz gets the most use out of it

her altered range, extended a.interval and massive atk boost all mean that it's worth using that tech if the timing lines up

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/KtDcMAd9rlo?si=Q5d_z1LvUbVSGg7e

Kina lazy trying things

[void terrace]

Honestly the one thing i love about arknights is it encourages multiple dps units

Rather than most other gatchas focusing on hyper buffing a single unit

To win

Like genshin or fgo

[scarlet mortar]

the exu buff army in question:

jokes aside yh that's thanks to additive scaling ig

[vocal leaf]

eben army too or any nuke operator

it’s more about that you have the freedom to do whatever you want

[void terrace]

Yeah exactly

[odd grotto]

yea i dont have glaadia texas suzu and nightingale, plus most of the clears that dont require suzu and virtuosa contain ops i didnt build, thats why it was very hard for me, when u got a full stacked account u can do it easily, plus is this a channel to get help with stages or a channel were ppl that have been playing for years shit on newbies with few units?

[glass monolith]

I HAD GLADIIA IN THERE?

The fuck she was doing there?

[wintry gulch]

bro’s questioning his entire existence rn

Pretty sure just a laneholder or for S3

[haughty flower]

Self sustaining block 2 meat shield that can stall out some of the slug swarms with s3, for 13 DP so can get down early.

In terms of throw picks she's far from the worst.

[vocal leaf]

was virtuosa even in the game at release of ch13?

[glass monolith]

Half year difference i think

[narrow pendant]

No, she was about month and a half after

[spark sinew]

I'm confused
were you looking at the guides that used suzu/virt and wisadel?

like you know you can just not use the creature

[narrow pendant]

But that would mean having to think for themselves

🥹

[wicked minnow]

there's a new-gen 2-op clear of h13-4

tragodia + necrass

cool stuff

[full terrace]

Tragodia gonna break a lot of stuff

[lapis hornet]

neckass opie?

[odd grotto]

yea buddy, crazy isnt it?

[spark sinew]

...

sure is

[narrow pendant]

No, but pretty good
And hot

[spark sinew]

i mean, not even that

surely there are clears that only have one of them

[lapis hornet]

i thought she was p meh except for low op.cause sum

[odd grotto]

as i just said im gonna look for a clear with units i have not some goofy stuff with ops i never built

[spark sinew]

mf
E: my friend

[odd grotto]

it seems too difficult to comprehend, i can make a paint image if u need

[spark sinew]

idk if you can read

maybe not

but that's not what I typed at all

[odd grotto]

ur the one unable to read, btw the paint offer is still avaiable

[narrow pendant]

Nah, shes just not good for hard content since she needs enenies to die for her to be useful
And her own dmg isnt good enough to kill hard mobs
General content op

[spark sinew]

how rude

[narrow pendant]

"Fight! Fight!"

[odd grotto]

i mean, ur the rude guy, u refused a beautiful painting on paint

[vocal leaf]

i can’t wait, i want a new male operator after i failed to get thorns

[full terrace]

I cant wait coz he gonna break stuff and I love breaking stuff 😏

[glass monolith]

Have you seen H14 solo with him?

[vocal leaf]

also french va

[haughty flower]

Fr*nce

[scarlet mortar]

bro solos at E1

the cat ever

[glass monolith]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Y3MmzfEvi

[haughty flower]

Quarantining from Theresa-19

[haughty flower]

@remote cloud Here's a personal favorite strategy of mine for beating this boss with no borrowing. Note melantha, beanstalk, jessica and amiya are all relatively replacable here.

Here's the trick-12f, the lizard on the left side, has a 50% dodge rate. The boss stops every time when he shoots and his ranged attacks deal less than his melee, thus buying time and stalling them. Thus, for a relatively cheap level to lv30, you can slow down the boss' pace and keep their ranged attacks occupied until you're ready to focus your efforts on killing them.

Melantha is just here for handling casters-if any of your ops can handle the casters with relatively minimal support besides maybe a heal, they'll work too.

[rapid junco]

@scarlet fulcrum
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=M8LwhRkNaSQ&si=ssizVlv6bITJ1NsP

Goth lady goat

[remote cloud]

woah thank you sorry i didnt see this i wasnt paying attention to discord notifs

[haughty flower]

In short this boss is a matter of stalling until you're ready to drop a lot of damage on him asap.

[rugged lava]

how is base built the best? i see some ppl deploy 2 powerplant, is this correct? what is the level for their dormitory?

i tried to re-assemble dormitory but i cant know if this suck or not

is 3 powerplants less on productions? i just followed quest instructions to built base back then, but now i wonder after all that, the quests itselves were 'misleading'

[full terrace]

Check the video pinned in #r-i-i-c for converting 243 to 252

2 Power Plants is correct

252 stands for 2 Trading Posts, 5 Factories, 2 Power Plants

[void terrace]

Err

Any of these 5 stars worth raising

Been sitting on them for too long

Will upgrade tequila and red maybe

[scarlet fulcrum]

This song actually in my list too

[narrow sun]

tequila is nice to have for base, no other standouts here

[somber falcon]

Depends on what you consider "worth"

[narrow sun]

no one in this chat will tell u 5 stars are worth raising :( (with the exception of base slaves and greyy ig)

[elder flume]

Depends on what your goal is

Base
Teq Whisperain Bibeak Bryo Czerny Minimalist Nothing
Tho WP team would need more than that

All shifters are differently used when the time comes

Vgknights uses all vg except Grani Poncirus Kestrel Reed

Doc for instaburst heal
Rosesalt for prolonging hp when its doomed
Nightmare S1M1 is a great healer
Aurora if you play nohit tech

[full terrace]

• Tequila (Trading Post) for Shamare setup
• Whisperain (Office) for PI setup
• Iris (Dorm) for PI setup
• Wild Mane (Factory) for Flametail/Viviana setup (best Battle Records production not counting the PI/Rosmontis setup)
• Bibeak (Trading Post) for Shamare setup
• Bryophyta (Factory) for the Bryophyta/Gravel/Thorns combo (best Gold Production not counting the PI/Rosmontis setup and Weedy/Eunectes/Greyy setup)
• Laios (Reception Room) for Clue Searching (optional)
• Ashlock (Factory) same as Wild Mane
• Czerny (Dorm) same as Iris
• Minimalist (Factory) only if you run the 243 setup
• Mr Nothing (Trading Post) for WP setup
• Waai Fu (Factory) one of the best Fac workers
• Scene and Mayer are decent in combat

[narrow sun]

its all about dat base 📈 📈 📈

[rapid junco]

Cultured ppl

[somber falcon]

Czerny and minimalist only if 243
Otherwise not needed 🚬

[rapid junco]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=D0hlXo638DM&si=Mo8AYCnS_dmR-LEW
How bout this

[void terrace]

Big thanks

[full terrace]

You are welcome

[void terrace]

Probably will raide bibeak for trading post

[full terrace]

Actually, Tequila E2 first would be better

Then Bibeak

[void terrace]

Just e2ed him

[somber falcon]

Also raise kaze both for combat and getting annoyed at how much clue you'll get

[void terrace]

I have 2 elite 2 vouchers

Ive left sitting there for so long

Probably should have usrd them earlier for bade things

[full terrace]

Ah

[narrow sun]

i assume u have e2 shamare?

[void terrace]

Oh definitely yes

I have every 5 star

So everything thats not there is e2ed

Well not every i think a few red shop ops i havent bought yet

[void terrace]

I heard kaze is very decent for a 5 star

[narrow sun]

sounds like u can just raise whoever u want

[void terrace]

Yeah i mean i could but im very low on resources

Took a long break

From farming

[narrow sun]

if u care about combat, kaze, rockrock, rose salt are good at their jobs

[void terrace]

Especially lmd im starved on tjay

Rose salt

Hmmmm

I might get rock rock for mech accord IS runs

Rose salts damage delay is interesting

[narrow sun]

highmore is decent enough in is3, and wanqing is also good at his job but u prob already have myrtle

[haughty flower]

Highmore really shouldn't be brought to is3. Enmities fall off very quickly if you start bumping that diff.

[void terrace]

I have exe alter so highmore is out

Also pluma

Ive consirered wanwing for his atk speed buff

Mini aak dosent sound so baf

[narrow sun]

mini aak? u mean spuria?

haha shes so situational, only works with snipers with low atk spd

[haughty flower]

You shouldn't use flags for their s2. Their s1 is their primary skill, as their role is dp production.

[scarlet fulcrum]

They have the same vibe like fhana, i like this one 💪

[haughty flower]

Even with Saileach, where there is an alternative to the s1 technically, uses s3 in that case, not s2.

[narrow sun]

mans clearly past the point of choosing whats optimal lol

[haughty flower]

Even then, the buff isn't particularly major. For buffer choices there's better.

And if you need buffers so early in a stage, you may as well agent your way into deploying the proper ones.

[maiden hound]

yes king

[scarlet mortar]

[maiden hound]

is her kit shown btw

[scarlet mortar]

https://vxb23.tv/2dO5Cac

haven't watched it myself, go ahead

[narrow sun]

it looks like shes a summoner, not a decel

[haughty flower]

She's a summoner, alright. Her kit's totally revamped from autochess.

Which does make sense, her skills were pretty generic and they'd be boring even by welfare standards.

[sly drift]

As welfare Raidian kit looks soooo good bro I'm not ngl lie.

[narrow pendant]

Insane

Looks more like supportive summoner

So probably pretty meh in general
But definetly better than her old decel binder

[lofty stag]

I mean, I kinda wanna see if she’s good in d15-18

[narrow pendant]

Dont think unless she has strong is6 passive

[sly drift]

Raidian is Ling but Free
Not as tough as Ling S3 double dragon but cost much cheaper and has more range and some support utility

[scarlet mortar]

[summons are considered as operators] or sth

[gritty iron]

Is the friend system in this game like reverse1999? Can I borrow units?

[glass wedge]

How do I beat the new Annihilation? Just came back to Arknights after Wis'adel

[edgy eagle]

magallan found dead in a ditch when new welfare operator powercreeps her

[dapper hedge]

Shes never gonna be dead

Some schizo nerd just gonna use her s1 anw

[pearl breach]

Logos s1 or asca in the middle. Then you just need to focus on the grenade launcher mobs on 200+

They will come from the bottom left red box and then pop up on the top right

[sly drift]

Schizo made her S1 works on ccb3 850risk or something.

[narrow pendant]

Try to get wis and logos mod first to make it even easier

[sly drift]

Her drone invisibility and good range binds still have some niche

[glass wedge]

Could this work? Logos is blue and is facing right, Asca is facing up

[scarlet mortar]

mag found in the last two CCB max risks

raidian found dead on arrival

[haughty flower]

Wait why is CE even in this squad.

Whatever. If you have them, a pusher on the upper left, even Shaw works.

Zuo Le lower left...uhhh...I think he can hold with both s2 or s3? I'm not sure, all I know is even Ulpi s2 works fine.

Ascalon + Logos + Wis handle middle.
Shu for emergency button.
Ela also just in case.

[scarlet mortar]

[sly drift]

That's some bold statement ngl

[glass wedge]

This is normally my general team for everything

[wintry gulch]

isn’t there a asca wis duo clear for this

[scarlet mortar]

oh i'm totally baiting

[haughty flower]

6/8 bait

[pearl breach]

I place logos right beside the blue box facing left. (3tiles above the hole)
His execute talent will proc a lot

[wintry gulch]

On a side note work on getting wisadel logos and shu mods

They’re all really good

Ascalon mod 2 as well

[haughty flower]

Her is insane, only male banshee and you get it wrong /j

[narrow pendant]

Shu can stay modless

Asca mod1

[wintry gulch]

If you care about optimization stuff ig they’re good regardless

[narrow pendant]

Sir what are u saying

🥀

[pearl breach]

You can duo this stage with only logos wis btw.

[wintry gulch]

Oh right asca is 1 I’m high

Shu mod is great tho wdym

[pearl breach]

Good operator suffer from a bad mod upgrade

[haughty flower]

Asca mod1, Wis mod3, Logos delta mod3 Hauck can eat shit.
If you really like CE technically mod1 is a decent bump if my math is correct, but I'd really rather not.

[pearl breach]

What hauck even do lol

[haughty flower]

Shilled modY for Logos s1

[narrow pendant]

Shu mod isnt needed
Mod1 is useless since she overheals anyway
Main attarction of shu mod is tile on deploy, that has yet to be needed, so

2nd mod will be better
When they finaly give it to her :grr:

[haughty flower]

12 mod blocks to mildly improve logos afk potential.
Then yapped that "it combos with other elemental!" When not a single fuckass afk op does good elemental app afk besides fuckass Thorns.

[wintry gulch]

Shoe mod is nice to have, just a bit too expensive for what it does

[wintry gulch]

I keep forgetting talent 2 gives aspd and isn’t just a random Sui faction buff

[narrow pendant]

It also gives her perm 15% dmg redution

That works on true dmg🥀

[haughty flower]

Who does true again?
Talulah...Amiya?

[edgy eagle]

i had meant more for solo clears

[narrow pendant]

Iounou, bunch of random shit

[wintry gulch]

Only gets sanc increase and the healing tile on deploy at 3 sadly

[scarlet mortar]

unless raidian is cracked we'll always have ling

[haughty flower]

Wait wtfart there's actually a decent amount of true damage in game.
This list also includes Patriot aura and Talulahs.

[edgy eagle]

oh yeah ling will always be better than raidian for solos but i think raidian is just way better than magallan for solos and since shes welfare even less magallan solos will happen

[narrow pendant]

Realisticaly noone cares about neither ling nor mag solos anymore

🥹

[edgy eagle]

i do i just never see them

i love watching low opcount clears that dont use walter

[haughty flower]

This man loves watching tragodia place cats over and over.

Someone call PETA

[edgy eagle]

ok but im a tragodia simp so i like watching that for a different reason

[pearl breach]

I do that on every farming stage. Random unbuilt trust farm ops with 1-2 dps

[haughty flower]

I'm gonna be so real tragodia bores me even more than Wis lowops.

[edgy eagle]

trag lowops will prob get old to me once i see more of them

[lofty stag]

You want peta to kill the cat

[edgy eagle]

but clears that require actual thought are always fun to watch

i will watch almost any nicheknights and enjoy it

[haughty flower]

Thing is half the time it looks like the thought is basically just figuring out where to place him to not die.

From there the gameplay loop with s2 gets real obvious on most stages.

[edgy eagle]

yeah tbh i mostly like trag lowops cuz its good asmr

[haughty flower]

They might just place the cat in basically the exact same spot for minutes at a time.

[pearl breach]

[edgy eagle]

my favorite lowop clear ive watched was a mineless stainless ascalon duo of challenge mode 7-18

[lofty stag]

Trag solos are just Wis solos with manual transmission 🥹

[edgy eagle]

which tbh makes them better, walter just is completely boring to me

at least trag solos require not falling asleep

[wintry gulch]

Honestly kinda useful if you really want to speedrun an event but don’t have nearly enough ops to clear normally

[narrow pendant]

I had easier time doing normal runs than copying ling solo clears

🥀

[lofty stag]

Fax

I wanna use my own ops braindeadily

[wintry gulch]

No like in super early game

[edgy eagle]

anyway nicheknights and lowop clears have completely changed how i view the game, i am now completely addicted to placements that look weird at a glance but have all the relevant coverage they need

[wintry gulch]

Like I-joined-a-week-ago-but-I-want-the-first-clear-rewards earlygame

[rapid junco]

Back to help

[lofty stag]

Nop

[narrow pendant]

Ia why so toxic

Send feet

:realmad:

[lofty stag]

Ur just salty you can’t freely post gothic music vids

[wintry gulch]

What is the lore here

[lofty stag]

Yes

[rapid junco]

I just send 2 songs today

[glass wedge]

Where do I place Wis

[wintry gulch]

fascinating

[lofty stag]

That’s 3 songs too many

[glass wedge]

Is this fine? Also where do I place Wis

[narrow pendant]

Yes

Just, yes

[rapid junco]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=8fMPoJ881A0&si=2MsYx4Vu_LRrdMgZ

[wintry gulch]

Upper right facing left iirc

[pearl breach]

For duo? On the top right corner.

[lofty stag]

That’s 4 songs too many

I don’t even listen to this stuff

[rapid junco]

A fraud

[lofty stag]

Ur a fraud for forsaking feet

[rapid junco]

Just back listening that lovey dovey western song

[pearl breach]

You only need to play around with revenant redeployment and her s3 timing if you want to duo

[glass wedge]

Is the tile just above the hole fine? Or nah

[pearl breach]

Nope. Your wis will die by the grenade launcher later

Either top right or spawn kill them

[glass wedge]

I see

[pearl breach]

The grenade launcher will deals a tons of dmg when they are fully charge

[south spindle]

Hi yume

[proud dome]

Any suggestions to complete this stage?

[edgy eagle]

what does your roster look like?

[proud dome]

wait

[edgy eagle]

without knowing the best i can say is stuff like lord guards with longer range despite being ground, and stuff like guardian defenders and reapers that can self sustain are generally what id recoment, basically stuff that doesnt need to be on high ground to help handle things

[proud dome]

okay

[narrow pendant]

Pram, liskarm sppecter and used e2 on amiya🥹 so cooked

[edgy eagle]

this map kinda trickles a couple enemies at a time so on the first one anything that can keep itself alive should do fine

[proud dome]

👍

[edgy eagle]

this map shouldnt be too much trouble for you but still best of luck with this and also your future maps

[proud dome]

okay, thanks

[wintry gulch]

what

[edgy eagle]

btw i know you didnt ask but i thought id mention it anyway, the main 4stars that see use outside of heavily restricted nicheknights where there just arent other options so bad options become viable out of sheer necessity are myrtle, cuora, perfumer, cutter(at high investment), ethan, click, may, indigo(shes pretty underrated but shes really good at crowd control), beanstalk, and gravel. theres probably some other ones i forgot to mention but these ones are all good at what they do

myrtle cuora perfumer beanstalk and ethan all actually can outperform higher rarity options that try to fill the same role as them if you dont mind the fact that they dont really do much damage in comparison

[proud dome]

i see

[edgy eagle]

they should all be useful until you find operators you want to use more

and since they are 4stars they are going to be really cheap to level in comparison

[proud dome]

finally, the stage is completed

[edgy eagle]

im going to head to bed now but if you ping me with a question i'll do my best to answer it when i wake up

[proud dome]

although a little difficult in the section

[proud dome]

Okay, thank you for the advice

[edgy eagle]

im happy to help

nighty night

[proud dome]

good night

[elder flume]

You want your Amiya in squad so you can borrow E2 frens

No medic makes it a race between your ops to kill before they get killed

[elder flume]

Also stop leveling up everyone equally and just make enough for 2 squads

When you can comfortably clear with those 2 squads then you can raise more

[full terrace]

M8-8 Concept Clear Wisadel borrow

Reminder: you got 3 hours-ish to wrap up your HS event

...if you havent

[south spindle]

Ooo

Damn clean arf

[full terrace]

Thats my alt account, I ran out of Practice Plans on my recording account. Those ops are at E0 Lv1 but they have Max Pot and the Trusts are at 200%, not a very optimal clear hence "Concept".

But the strategy is there, so in case any newbie struggling with the stage, I'll just link back.

[high cedar]

Whats the recommended strat for this especially where they would spam light armored soldjer thus overrunning my team (ls-4)

[spark sinew]

use aoe arts

[glass monolith]

If they are on top of each other - Splash caster / Catapult to hit multiple targets. If there are alot of them but distance between don't let AoE to hit much, just more single target hitters (Snipers melt no DEF targets)

[high cedar]

Is there any operator that does aoe other than irift (1x5 fire) and catapult?

[somber falcon]

A whole lot of them

[glass monolith]

Splash casters (Lava etc) / Artelleryman (Catapult etc) do AoE around target they hit. Blast casters (Ifrit etc) / Reaper guards (Humus etc) / Ambusher specialists (Ethan etc) do damage to everything in range when attacking

[high cedar]

Ok dam catapult dps is too low

[scarlet mortar]

catapult is Ass

[glass monolith]

Ah shit i missread light armored as low def. Yea don't catapult/sniper those they have 400 def, (Catapult won't be completely useless as there are 35 slugs)

Defenders and casters

[full terrace]

Borrow a unit and clear it

You dont auto LS-4

Actually you dont auto any LS stages

[spark sinew]

while true, i think understanding the basics is fine and needed here

[glass monolith]

Also chain casters (one in red cert shop, 1 can be gained from Dorothy vision event) while not being aoe in sense of hitting everything their attacks hit several close proximity to each other targets instead just 1

[spark sinew]

chains suck vs hordes though

they're basically designed to outperform aoe casters at 4 or less enemies

[glass monolith]

Well he asked about enemy which exist in quantity of 10, isntead 80

[warm trellis]

can someone help me with making a team please

[pastel surge]

Your current team is good enough but you might want to replace plume and fang with texas and courier (both are obtainable btw)

[warm trellis]

should i be putting tequila in my team?

[narrow pendant]

Obviously yea

Hes your only e2 and strongest op u have

[warm trellis]

who to replace?

[narrow pendant]

Thorns

Hes useless till e2

[high cedar]

Oh? Then whats the best way to grind "the thing used for leveling up operator"?

[void terrace]

Base

[high cedar]

Aight

[pastel surge]

He’s the strongest undoubtly but he is a nuker not a laneholder so be careful (+he needs charging time)

[obtuse tangle]

Is there a way to see which operators are good and bad

I am new

[maiden hound]

ask the wankers milling in #help
it's subjective anyways about exact placement

[obtuse tangle]

Lol..I did ask sometimes..but it's a bother to ask everytime I get a new character.. anyway is catapult good

[maiden hound]

not really
don't have many usecases for her since you can use ground "true" aoe ie humus to clear trash mobs also

[odd grotto]

prolly the worst 3 star char

[vocal leaf]

along adnachiel

[carmine ingot]

https://ark-db.vercel.app/farming

[spark sinew]

30% tp worker can't be bad for newbies

[lethal stirrup]

If this is the team I normally use, and I only have 60 pulls saved up atm after Degen, is it worth trying to pull Yu to replace my Jessica or should I just keep saving for Mon3tr and Exusiai alter?

[narrow pendant]

The latter

Also get degen mod1 and make asca use s2

🫡

[spark sinew]

are you being an idiot again

amazing how ignorant you are 🫡

[narrow pendant]

Hi hau

[vocal leaf]

jess and yu do different things, one cannot really replace the other or is not necessarily better than the other, but for that team yu could work along gg reed or lappalt

love to see hau in his most polite and calm arc

[lethal stirrup]

Thanks guys

[vocal leaf]

i have less than 60 pulls im hoping to get him

[spark sinew]

it's annoying when the guy can use logic, my writeup, or just think for one second, but plays dumb instead 🫡

like if you want to "dunk" on people, pick actually controversial opinions (i have them), not argue about something you know absolutely nothing about, or didn't even bother reading the module itself

[haughty flower]

You shilled getting modY for better afk on an op that afk's perfectly fine with delta already and whose better mod for s3 is typically delta, coped other elemental for said afk skill on ModY when the only other real non afk elemental is Thorns, and didn't even at least try to shill ModY s3, which at the very least technically cycles well and does pair with the other elementals.

Don't think I got anything wrong. We can pull up exactly what you said.
You basically shilled blowing 12 mod blocks for marginally better afk performance, over at least recc'ing s3 with the relatively casual friendly delta mod over the conditional ModY for s3's case, and even in s1's case marginal to only tipping the balance in relatively rare cases.

Here is your exact statement.

Above, I was even starting to explain why they should consider the s3m3 instead before you decided to pull up the 3 month from now afk schizo minmaxing ModY, which works with known afk ops Tragodia and Yu!

[void terrace]

Thoughts on blaze alter?

Does nymph s3 just straight up do better damage with virtuosa?

[wintry gulch]

bad

(someone else can do the explanation)

[full terrace]

Blaze alter relies on Yu for S3 efficiency, other than that her damage is so-so. Nymph S3 also suffers the same Primal Caster fate as her (and yes she does massive Elemental Damage on S3 when paired with Virtuosa), but you are not using Nymph for S3 but rather S2.

Now you can see why Nymph has value while Blaze alter almost none, this is because the former's primary skill is S2 and the latter is S3.

[void terrace]

True

Fear chain is op

You can even troll quilon with it

[vocal leaf]

let’s pray together that we all dodge blaze and get yu first 🙏

[void terrace]

Imma gun for both

I love vivi too much

[haughty flower]

Vivi is very self sufficient with her burn.

She's applying it to a single target, and she doesn't really need Yu or Blazealt to do anything much.
Tldr her burn is very independent of theirs most the time.

[void terrace]

Hmm true

I mean personally i like using her with aak a lot

Faster atk speed means more sheilds

She can duel a lot of bosses easily with the buff

[wintry gulch]

Rather balatro than fartooth 🙏

[full terrace]

Hmm I just got my first Amiya clear

Seems like she is easier than Quilon

Actually I think she is much easier, it's just the annoying stage mechanics

[haughty flower]

Amiya, unlike Quilon, lacks the boss and elite buffer relic, and because her mechanics are more forgiving whiffing a specific ticket you want for your team isn't as punishing.

But then bloody ed2a45 rolls around and

[full terrace]

Hows your icons progress @vocal leaf

[lofty stag]

Ur dodging both cuz I cast 3 offrate fartooths

[narrow pendant]

What do u cast on me?

[full terrace]

If only I havent gotten any Fartooth

I would welcome your curse

[scarlet mortar]

2a45 at 100% difficulty: 2a45
2a45 at 95% difficulty: 2a4

[lofty stag]

Offrate ulpi

[narrow pendant]

You'd cast pot3 ulpi on me?!

is that a good pot? Idk

[haughty flower]

Trvthnvke
5 is just a test to see either how much shield you stacked up or how good you are at playing with Amiya's balls.

[smoky halo]

its true though 🥱

modY sees more usage now since it doesnt clash with tragodia

[haughty flower]

Tragodia's in over 4 months, and even then tragodia's not afk unless you wanna cope s1

[smoky halo]

if they only care about afk why are you shilling logos s3

logos s3 isnt afk

and we know modY > mod delta or s1

pick a side

[haughty flower]

No that's the point, Hauck shilled ModY for s1 afk, I shilled s3m3 because it works well on both delta or even Y.

[smoky halo]

those arent even exclusive

u can get modY and s3m3

[haughty flower]

He specifically emphasized s1 usage

No mention of s3

[smoky halo]

the player probably likes afk

[haughty flower]

Then mod delta is instant and still does fine in 90+% of content vs Y.

Also if they like afk why tf they pulling Mr "deploy summon every under half minute" to pair with them.

[smoky halo]

damn its like hauck didnt mention "if ur taking ur time"

🥱

[vocal leaf]

IS5? I finished long ago, d18 all endings are done too

[haughty flower]

Also, they didn't even say they liked afk, Hauck just jumped to conclusions. They seemed to realize it was the worse skill after we chatted.

[smoky halo]

🚬

[haughty flower]

For reference they had Arturia s3m3, Degen s3m3, and Warf s2 in their Krooster. Their only afk skill was Logos s1m3

[smoky halo]

idk who the palyer is

so i am just guessing

[haughty flower]

Lemme link

[smoky halo]

based on context

[haughty flower]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/shiny-gold-kroos-98yc

[smoky halo]

shiny gold wtf

uma ahh username

🚬

[haughty flower]

Here, you can see their acc isn't an afk acc.

[smoky halo]

oh bruh new account

[haughty flower]

Hauck just instantly doubled down to cope on s1 afk.

[smoky halo]

modY is better for s1

modY is situationally better for s3

[haughty flower]

I bet he didn't even check the Krooster, just counter argued my line.

[smoky halo]

its a good mod i think u just mod6 logos 🚬

surely he doesnt get powercrept soon 🚬

[haughty flower]

I think for casual play and a new acc mod delta is more value, but at the very least we can agree on s3m3 over s1 cope no?

[smoky halo]

i think its universal that s3 is better

it depends ‼️ if they roll tragodia its a very modY angle

[haughty flower]

Yeah, and my point is that Hauck just instantly went to ModY angle for s1 afk, then shilled non afk ops to combo with it.

If he had went for s3 ModY usage point we wouldn't be here. I'd just add on delta is available now and is also good, we all move on.

"Clearly value afk"

Not a single other afk skill m3'ed

[lapis hornet]

afk always superior he ain't wrong

[willow sun]

ako infighting real

[narrow pendant]

Still no bitches

[glass monolith]

Dodges the point with Flametail S1

[narrow pendant]

I'll dodge it with ambusher trait

[mental brook]

what ops synergize best with skalter? i wanna build a specialized skalter squad

[maiden hound]

anyone with:

1. low base atk
2. "deal x% of atk as damage" skills
   gains more from skalter than the rest

[mental brook]

mhmhm, noted, thanks!

[full terrace]

Lappcaster and Goldenglow

[mental brook]

didn't manage to get lappcaster sadly, but i do have gg ^w^

[full terrace]

Degenbrecher

[mental brook]

ooh, i'll add degen - tyty

[void terrace]

Mudrock is an odd choice but doable