strategy

[limpid ore]

[full terrace]

It's hit count based iirc

Asca stacks DoT up to 3 times so it looks fluctuative

[limpid ore]

oh wait, checked the wiki

it's 5 SP per hit without other Heater buff
30 SP with

and lose 9 SP per sec

[full terrace]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Emergency_Heater

Yah it's hit based, 5 SP per hit

[limpid ore]

could use gravel since she is double tapper attack

[astral cosmos]

beehunter s2

[full terrace]

Lemme check Gravel interval again

0.93s

[limpid ore]

gravel and beehunter are uniquely have double hit on normal attack ignoring their subclass behavior

[full terrace]

She should work but man that would take forever

[scarlet mortar]

yh the gravel tech is funny

[astral cosmos]

it's already been 5 irl minutes on x2 and I'm still on p1

[full terrace]

Looks painful 😂

[astral cosmos]

yeah but it works!

[scarlet mortar]

harold being half a step inside the blue box

that's tragic

[astral cosmos]

?

that's on purpose

[full terrace]

As long as it works for him 😄

[astral cosmos]

oh wait right, without the strategy explained it looks tragic

[full terrace]

But that does look painful

[scarlet mortar]

no i see why he's there

i meant it's tragic for harold

[astral cosmos]

it's essential for the strat

ok the auto forgot to activate bison skill

congrats on dying, bison

[south spindle]

Ok now that I’m done

How was I supposed to play the boss optimally

😊

I opt to not read else game gets very boring now

:c

[astral cosmos]

just keep trying to bruteforce
trust, it'll work

[scarlet mortar]

the optimal way is you firewatch nuke the shit outta p2

[narrow pendant]

Ifrit s3 saria s3 eben s3 warf s2 on ebe nuke

The ojly optimal strat

[astral cosmos]

better yet, use the horn nuke

[scarlet mortar]

is how 5* did it

[south spindle]

Is nuking p2 actually the play?

[narrow pendant]

One shots and skips all the nukes

[scarlet mortar]

must be optimal fr

[south spindle]

Istg he does 2 attacks in a row if you do too much damage

And he gurantee wipes you shit

[scarlet mortar]

yh since you skip all the invuln and nukes

[south spindle]

But idk what rhe mechanic is

[dapper hedge]

His invul is

[dapper hedge]

Omega annoying

[south spindle]

Oh he doesn’t stack the nukes?

[elder flume]

[scarlet mortar]

nukes are skills triggered by hp thresholds

[full terrace]

Wisadel shot him while Nightingale fully protecting her, 100/100 offense defense that optimal enough for you? #strategy message

[scarlet mortar]

they only activate once when you exceed a hp loss threshold, so if you overdamage you can skip a threshold or two

or three

every boss works like this

[glass monolith]

He nuke extra time per each Oven which is not working when he use it. Sadly fact that he entered invulnerability and prepares to use Nuke DOESNT STOP HIM FROM USING SKILL TO TURN 2 OVENS OFF

[south spindle]

Not most efficiently time wise but like mechanics wise how do they want you to play

Oh okay

[scarlet mortar]

well ok EB's dominion might bug out on rare occasions and manage to trigger even when you nuke him

but that's so rare idr someone figuring out how that happened

[astral cosmos]

on p2 you either carefully dps him and make sure heaters are on
or you nuke him with eben/horn

or you're schizo like me and use my strat

[full terrace]

• He occasionally turns off a Heater, on Phase 2 he turns off 2 Heaters. Extinguished Heater(s) = his DR, you light them up = he loses DR.
• When transitioning Phase 1 ~> Phase 2, he does the diamond-shaped chill aura which entinguishes all Heaters in its range.
• On Phase 2 he does the nuke every 25% HP loss and the damage is based on unlit Heaters, the more unlit Heaters on the field the harder he nukes.
• Physical damage is his biggest weakness.

[sly drift]

Just to make sure before I m3 mousse. Her S1 does perma debuff right? Or is there any time window where her debuff isn't on effect?

[elder flume]

a lot of downtime

[astral cosmos]

it's far from perma

[sly drift]

Alright

[astral cosmos]

try mine before deciding on yours if you want

[elder flume]

1s on best rng
approx 4s on worse rng

[south spindle]

Ohhhh

[grizzled thistle]

How do I deal with Harold phase 2 in the rerun event?

[south spindle]

Okay yeah

As I suspected they kind of want you to fight him slowly phase by phase

But you can also just

One shot

[sly drift]

Harold attack interval is suck too. Maybe it's still works

[south spindle]

Thank you

[elder flume]

the more double attack you do the longer your next S1 application is

[astral cosmos]

carefully dps him
make sure heaters are on when hp threshold nuke procs

[elder flume]

its really a bad talent

[grizzled thistle]

Carefully dps him?

[astral cosmos]

as in make sure your units and heaters are ready once he gets to the hp thresholds

[scarlet mortar]

you don't want to damage him too quickly

that way you can react

[astral cosmos]

if you just bruteforce him you'll likely not have all heaters online most of the time so you'll just explode

[limpid ore]

wait, does mousse double attack not count as separate hit for offensive recovery?

[astral cosmos]

nope

[elder flume]

nada

[limpid ore]

aw suck

[elder flume]

Chen is alr an example of it since long

makes stunning harder but owel

[worthy gorge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZb2kFozgGg&t=134s trying to replicate this. My borrowed mlynar lvl 90 s3m3 cannot clear harold during the first skill, leaves him with 1 hit worth of hp. any ideas why is that?

[limpid ore]

well, then again the wording is "attack hits twice" instead of "perfrom an additional attack"

[elder flume]

if you got a recording then maybe i can look into it

[vital arrow]

you probably mistimed on the furnace

[worthy gorge]

does furnace prevent freezing only, or is there another mechanic around it?

[vital arrow]

it prevents cold from the map

[limpid ore]

cold and freezing are inseparateable

[scarlet mortar]

it gives him DR

[astral cosmos]

there is this

[limpid ore]

enemies wear thick warm suit, so being near burning furnace cook them from inside and outside

[dapper hedge]

Also make sure you fully charge mlynar

[vital arrow]

well mlynar will always be fully charged

[limpid ore]

his s3m3 has 40 sp, doesnt it?

[worthy gorge]

so do I understand correctly: when im killing the boss, i need to maximsie uptime of lit furnaces around the map?

[vital arrow]

42

[limpid ore]

or close to that

yeah

[astral cosmos]

yes

[limpid ore]

dont be that guy who use liskarm to SP battery mlynar s3

[worthy gorge]

thank you guys

i straight up did not light the bottom furnace...

cleared it

[sly drift]

Peak strat

[full terrace]

Oh darn my alt hasnt done Polyvision Museum and now there is this RS

[rapid junco]

Do I get something from that poly-thing

[slim wyvern]

Resources, two medals, and a menu theme.

[rapid junco]

[full terrace]

Just some rss

My RS-8 auto is so stable 🤤

[rapid junco]

Then I'd just hunt those hot ghosts tonight

[full terrace]

They are easy, just time consuming 😵

[narrow pendant]

I pray this wont cone again, it sucks

:realmad:

[novel parrot]

Is Archetto worth M3 on any of her skills? I'm building mine, but I don't know which skill is better.

For general content the shield Module is better right?

[sly drift]

Archetto damage is terrible on 2025

And the fact that it has offensive recovery skill

[elder flume]

S1M3 was for IS2 back then
S3M1 for range
but thats about it with the problems shown above

oh wait S3M1 wasnt range

i prob would just mod alpha her if i want to use her in IS

general content without mod or non S2M2 masteries is prob enough
i prefer sp over shield mod either way

[neat mantle]

Looks like rs ex 8 isn't as hard as some people told me

[sly drift]

You sounds like anyone that use all *6 meta along with a Wisadel.

[narrow pendant]

Now go a year back when it came out and degen was still 2nd best guard 🫡

[foggy grove]

harold is only hard if people don't read

[neat mantle]

I mean i use meta but its not wisadel

[neat mantle]

Fair enough

[glass monolith]

I tried to think, then I stopped

[tall sierra]

Harold is pretty annoying if dun have NG to help survive multiple nuke based of unlit heater

[prisma ledge]

Possible for Yato Alter to solo-activate heaters?

[glass monolith]

I don't recall. I think her S2 fills half, could be wrong

Practice plans are free

[elder flume]

she fully fills in 1 S2 ye

[noble turtle]

Possible

[elder flume]

even S1 is enough

[prisma ledge]

I guess Yato Alter and Texalter can probably handle Phase 2 Harold then

[elder flume]

oh S3 Yato also ignites

wao

[maiden hound]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DxquH0qOvLb47uSPWjGH2F_D_3zElH1CH1O9wKnDCSs/edit?usp=sharing

all can edit

[elder flume]

why does it look kina chatgpt vibe

[wicked minnow]

lowkey

anyway just updated the good? column for canta and elysium. i dont wanna ruin the vibe and it's your encyclopedia so i wont make any big changes

huh, i will just leave my contributions as that. good luck on your endeavors 🫡

[elder flume]

wonder how specialists will be rated

[daring maple]

I just come back to the game since silverash efla sutr is still new era

is there any shift in the meta?

[scarlet mortar]

i have bad news,

tldr yes, although those 3 aren't unusable we've also gotten much much better tools to play with

a meta squad can have none of them and curbstomp general content fairly trivially

[daring maple]

I just need to future proof any kyostinV strat haha, is there anyone I should pull in upcoming banner?

[scarlet mortar]

if you want to copy kyo's strats just friend someone with wisadel or logos ig

[glass monolith]

Future proof - Find friend with Wisadel support

[daring maple]

my whale still have a place right?

[scarlet mortar]

skadi?

[daring maple]

yes

[scarlet mortar]

immensely irrelevant unless you have other AH members and just want her in your squad

[glass monolith]

Bad news - Ulpanius or whatever his full name is returned with milk and does "being hit in face and survive" better

[daring maple]

oh lord another skadi

how much is cn faster than us I forgot

[scarlet mortar]

in terms of just using skadi she'll probs get mangled by most bosses nowadays, not to mention half the elites

6 months

[daring maple]

well I should save up for the legos banner and hope for wisdel in the december banner

tks man

[glass monolith]

Uh...

[daring maple]

the game feels like 20 games now

I got stun lock in the home screen for 20 mins when I came back lol

[vocal leaf]

idk why i feel that people are pulling too comfortably in the recent banners

[lapis hornet]

same

all my units useless now..

[lofty stag]

gamba addiction

[lapis hornet]

do we have a tier list

[vocal leaf]

watch supah’s channel, i heard he makes great videos rating operators, surely the best aktuber you can watch as new player

[lapis hornet]

thx for the tip

[vocal leaf]

you’re welcome

[narrow pendant]

😭

Vas what have u done

[dusty ferry]

about Ethan : his basic attack deal art damage, or physical damage ?

[full terrace]

😂😂😂

100/100

[narrow pendant]

Phys

His s1 dot is arts

[glass monolith]

All ambushers do physical with base, ethan skill 1 adds arts dot because we don't really have any kind of physical dot in this game

[dusty ferry]

a physical dot with how def work would be very ineffective. or it would need special rule, like "only 10% of the def is apply to each tic"

[vocal leaf]

ive been living in a lie all this time, i thought ethan did arts damage 😭

[narrow pendant]

Thats what u deserve, s*pah recommender

[hazy sinew]

dot arts

[steel prairie]

should Chen stick to mostly S3 skill or S2 ??? they both seems useful in different situation (also realized S3 was just raw brute force and not arts dmg)

[heavy pewter]

Is it worth pulling for the banner unit

[timid nacelle]

no just buy reed from shop if u have the certs

[timid nacelle]

s3

s2 is a bait

starts doin nothin pretty quickly

even then why r u buildin chen

[steel prairie]

old characters also one of the first few characters I got

my account is roughly around 3 months old now

[timid nacelle]

chen was outdated since the year she came out

[steel prairie]

also how many "lights" out there

[timid nacelle]

so 4 years ago

me and a guy with a current nickname "john spark"

at least if we r talkin who frequently visit strat and help

anyways try not to use chen or invest in her anymore

she's gonna be dead weight way too soon

[steel prairie]

ik until I get more Ops

[distant bough]

Big ch'en invester here, I haven't brought her to a stage in 3 years, do NOT build her

[full terrace]

@south spindle #off-topic message
You know how I keep saying I love Kirara Magic's works. HG seems to be on the same wavelength, this is definitely their biggest piece so far, it's so so good.

[glass monolith]

Instruction unclear activating cheese #strategy message #strategy message

[full terrace]

Shu's lobby theme is Kirara Magic's work

[fierce tendon]

Does the boss explode shits deals more damage based on how many heater he unlits or based how many unlits heater in the map?

[narrow sun]

he nukes ur units, +1 nuke for each unlit heater on the map i believe

hey yall i'm looking for some strategy help for rs-8, 4 operators (mumu, matterhorn, silverash, harold)

i'm an idiot and impatient so idk how to do phase 2

[glass monolith]

Unlit on map, him unliting them exists only to make it easier for him to murder you

[narrow sun]

since i stalled like 10 minutes to get this far

i can get the boss down to half pretty easily, but i'm pretty lost on what to do after X(

[fierce tendon]

Probably time to use gg (i dont have lappdumbter) to lit things up during his charging for nukes

[full terrace]

You burst him the same, it depends on what dps you have tho. The key is to generate DP fast, deploy everyone, and light up the heaters fast @still vessel

Range/area coverage is your best friend here because with big enough range you can light up multiple heaters at once, thats why Wisadel is so powerful in this event.

[narrow sun]

ok nvm im dumb and im also not lost anymore

[still vessel]

thanks bro

[full terrace]

Best of luck bro

[steel prairie]

if you practically upgraded most of your facilities in the Base is it worth putting Ops in the powerplants or no ??????

[lofty stag]

you should

thats how you drone proviso better

or just drone any tp if no proviso

[sick flare]

finally, an event where Wisadel is powerful!

[south spindle]

yo intern did u beat event

[full terrace]

Whachu talkin about bro she is powerful everywhere 😂

[still vessel]

Only boss ex cm stage left

No more sanity

[south spindle]

tsk tsk

[still vessel]

🥀

[steel prairie]

hmmm am I still doing smth wrong ??? I mean the avg did increase from 20k to 30k LMD but this is still short from the avg 50k LMD per day... what Im I missing ??? I leveled up a lot of those 3 and 4 stars base Ops.

[south spindle]

wrong channel for this but 2-5-2? proviso? tequila+shamare? droning TPs?

[steel prairie]

wait what channel for bases ???

[south spindle]

#r-i-i-c

[steel prairie]

oh ok

[eager geyser]

any strat for the new event boss? RS-8

[elder flume]

nuke or keep igniting before lettinh him nuke

[vale cape]

Ty for this

Bru it was so simple

I didnt want to try and nuke it cuz i always thought the boss was tanky as shit

[sly drift]

Harold is tanky as shit if there are more of the Heater turned off

[unkempt lintel]

i was seeing lappland alter s1 to keep furnace lit up

but yeh basically as long as u keep them light up, u have nothing to fear

[pure orchid]

lmao

clue 1 troll is new at least

[steel prairie]

why does it not show the twigs stats ???

[elder flume]

it fluctuates every kill you do

since the twigs arent actually enemies

just stage hazards

[steel prairie]

oh it scales the same as the rot eater itself ???

[elder flume]

theyre a set stat at the start of the stage

it calcs what stat number to give the Rot Eater when you kill it

[steel prairie]

oh ic... but whats the best way to destroy the quickly before the kill count accumulates ??? most of my Arts dealer that does good dmg have high DP count (tossed a full built Amiya in ad she wont clear them on time)

[elder flume]

Anything that can burst 40k hp 0 def 10 res tbh

Taunt -1 is the kicker since they wont prioritize it

[glass monolith]

It is like 20% stats if you kill it before 20% of enemies, 80% if you kill it after 80% of enemies, and 100% if you didn't kill it at all

[steel prairie]

yeah so the best way is to kill it first as fast as possible... but I have no one that can just spawn in and do high dps "immediently"

[glass monolith]

Well in vision of whoever does map design: "When was it my problem?"

[steel prairie]

all my VG sucks at lumberjacking

[elder flume]

you have Chen

S3 goes far
S2 is fast

Skadi is also raised

[scarlet fulcrum]

Normal kroos can kill them too, if u can bait beyblade

[elder flume]

Ceobe

Ray

[steel prairie]

LOL I did tried both of those... couldnt get enough dp on time

[scarlet fulcrum]

They have trash stats when u wake them up early

[steel prairie]

ik thats the point... I wanna chop those twigs as fast as I can but no one in my squad can do that

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its just u, not ur ops

[steel prairie]

what am I suppose to do then ???

I cant just save dp for Ray or Ceobe it would have been game over already

[elder flume]

you can just take on their end stats

Ray does too much

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just do event tbh, u always complain no shit for this and that when u always skipping event

[steel prairie]

I did do event... easier than the last one

[scarlet fulcrum]

Farm the event

[steel prairie]

I just wanna stack up more originium before Blaze Alter event comes (which is after this)

[elder flume]

theres still Necrass

[steel prairie]

huh ??? didnt the bot spam say the Blaze Alter was after this ???

[scarlet fulcrum]

Roughly around 1 month

From now

[steel prairie]

the bot spam for events is accurate right ???

its this... then Blaze Alter... then CC

[elder flume]

oh Necrass is after Yu? damn

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is still gap regardless

[steel prairie]

hmmm

[elder flume]

Thonk

[steel prairie]

btw I do farm the event (need those maganese) its just usually after 1 round I get like around 20-30 ish sanity left and usually hops on campaign or side mission for it

[steel prairie]

wait Skadi S2 can actually do the job ???

wtf why I didnt think of that

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is still shu event rerun

[elder flume]

Ray

[scarlet fulcrum]

Gravel trying her best 👍

bet dude has skill lv 4 or smt

[elder flume]

Chen

Chen modx3 S1M3 almost solo killed a twig huh

1 attack away from killing

[noble spire]

Could I beat rs ex 8 with this team, i keep on getting nuked by the boss

[elder flume]

prob

[vocal leaf]

borrow nightingale, you got dps by yourself

your healers are underlevel

[noble spire]

Alright

[noble spire]

Which of my healer should I level or e2 first

[jaunty hill]

@full terrace hey 🥀

Pls help 🥀

[worldly stirrup]

I used civilight s3 to survive the nuke

[jaunty hill]

I know it should be no problem to clear rs-ex-8 with this squad but I'm very busy irl so if you have time

[vocal leaf]

depends on what you want, lumen for a high single target healer or ptilo for the sp aura, you can leave silence for a while

[jaunty hill]

Also paths must be opened is also m3

I just forgot to switch

[noble spire]

Oh ok thanks alot

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1phk6YAEJf/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

prob can follow that

[wary imp]

guys, is harold's icicle attack

• can be baited by other units
• has a global range (i.e. its target can be anyone on the field)
  ?

[sly drift]

It's global aoe damage

Oh wait.. if you mean the mini ice shard then it has priority targeting

Actually just read the desc man.. it's there

[wary imp]

no it technically has a radius of 10 tiles

not rlly global

[glass monolith]

You physically not gonna have that relevant because he focus oven holders anyway and you need to place shit in diagonal corners with nobody holding ovens

[sly drift]

Yea but can you actually just lit the heater and done

[limpid ore]

well, the stage is barely more than 10 tiles width

[sly drift]

Maybe he play by deploying ops in the corner and bait in opposite corner.
(This is joke, don't actually try)

[wary imp]

Yeah totally i would do that if not the "<Flint> cost increased to 20" ahh line

[wary imp]

im planning to do it lmao

ex 8

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh dang she skipped few hp thresehold ability even without buff

[glass monolith]

Laugh in +20% enemy stats

[wary imp]

[sly drift]

Idk but I think it's relatively easier CM condition.

Be grateful it's not flint cooldown++ or something

[glass monolith]

I recall we had some CM with Roadblock cooldown+ in order to force 2 lane defense but i had silverash in squad and still managed to on time make it 1 lane

[wary imp]

yeah indeed its one of the easiest CM condition for an ex 8 to date

still, need more dp tho

[glass monolith]

Extra easier because Future is now Dedushka and we can just Ascalon and stuff against map which clusters all dangers in same place

[elder flume]

JT8-3 Wis carry for low end
bring Amiya and borrow Wis
Jaye instead of Figurino
if you have a second executor thats better than Jaye Yato
Remove Shadow in front of Wis after 2nd shot to not burn Wis
incase Gravel dies at the start just add another blocker to keep Talulah in place
Teq SL4 for initial sp
end Teq first skill after he kills his first 2block enemy
Teq skill again when his level 1 is available and a new 2block enemy is on his tile for Midnight to hit
Lancet to block right most fireball
Yato needs max level for faster redeploy
Wis 2nd skill use when the ignited fireball goes past her
keep Talulah on bottom row for Wis to hit
Talulah must die before the last bottom 2block enemy appears

i think thats about as low i wana do for a pseudo guide

assuming new players use their E2 on Teq

[vocal leaf]

i know they will wait to release talulah anime arc to release her as playable, she will be next limited, trust

after summer one, imagine summer talulah

[narrow pendant]

6* elem guard

[elder flume]

pretty sure i removed Gravel mod but auto is reequipping it smh

[glass monolith]

Auto loves your Gravel more than you

[scarlet fulcrum]

Can also add guardmiya since they already have her

[elder flume]

ye the last slot can be Gamiya

since this is 12 ops auto

the 13 will be Wis

[lapis hornet]

[full terrace]

Where is your Medic

[verbal harness]

How do I beat rs 8 with this squad, I don't want a support because I wanna farm green things and tickets at the same thing. I have other 6 stars such as hoe, gladia and marcille if they are cool ig

[jaunty hill]

What's a medic

I uh have e1 lumen

[full terrace]

Starting from now your focus is to raise Medic. Also where is your physical dps all of them are Arts

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13CkwY6EtN/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

Thorns ver
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13c411D794/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[full terrace]

To solve this stage comfortably, raise your Gladiia and then give her the Module X. Once you have a Gladiia built, borrow a Nightingale and do this

Ines = your Vulpisfoglia. Her job is just to light up the Heater and generate DP in the opening sequence.

[full terrace]

No not Lumen, you can raise Susurro, Purestream, Perfumer. It's never a waste to raise them. If you have Ptilopsis you can raise her as well.

[full terrace]

Oh ya, when you redeploy Logos for the final wave, make sure you face him left. I faced him down coz I was distracted, someone was talking to me

[sly drift]

Just find out that you can actually bypass Harold nonsense by bursting him down during his mini shard skill.

[dapper hedge]

I mean yeah its hp threshold based

[scarlet mortar]

think yuva means in the sense you don't have to oneshot

the invuln is also a skill so he can't use it while he's using another skill

it's like SK/damazti bursting, this time with a 2s window or sth

[sly drift]

EN when read

[azure roost]

omg reading

dies

[sly drift]

It doesn't have to be one shot, it's working even with Mlynar buffed, Degen buffed. Anything as long as you can burst him fast enough during his "Mini ice shard" skill

Deny invulnerability, deny nukes.

[dapper hedge]

Oh you mean his normal skill

My internet is absolute cock

[azure roost]

lol

[fierce tendon]

Wait im curious

How does boss nuke skill target? General thing as in last deployment or somewhere nearby the heater?

[dapper hedge]

Target heater 1st

The big nuke on phase2 is global targeting all

[rapid junco]

Litted furnace > ops nearby

[elder flume]

ten tile radius from himself is fun

[rapid junco]

[fierce tendon]

I was like deploy shit on the furnace faraway from my ops in ex 8 so that it doesn’t nuke my set ups

[narrow pendant]

The nuke has a ten tile radius

Its nkt global but it is global at the same time

[elder flume]

i still wouldnt call a twenty tile radius as global

[glass monolith]

It is global when you locked in effectively 4x6 box of useable space

[full terrace]

3 ops carry (plus some Trust units)
2 mins auto

Stability!

[vital vessel]

man gladi ulpi duo needs mod3 ulpi just for the stats 🥀

and i'm very reluctant to mod3, hoping for a much better 2nd mod

[narrow pendant]

"Much better"
+1max stack, other AH get 60%

[vital vessel]

🥹

[glass monolith]

Good shit, i'm in

[full terrace]

I'm posting some strats for the early Chapter 2 using Lv1 SL1 Trust<10% units. For future newbies.

[narrow pendant]

Is that neccesary tho

[full terrace]

2-1

[full terrace]

It's not necessary for you ≠ not necessary for others, stop living in your own world little bro

[narrow pendant]

The only stage new players have trouble on is 2-5 or whichever it was with the roadblocks

[full terrace]

S2-1

[narrow pendant]

And dont just jump me for asking a simple question "little bro"

[full terrace]

2-2

S2-2

S2-3

S2-4

2-3

2-4

[brisk surge]

Lil bro

🥱

🤏

[narrow pendant]

Eat my nuts max

U piss me off too

:realmad:

[brisk surge]

They're little

🤏

[full terrace]

S2-5

[narrow pendant]

Still bigger than that nut you call a brain in your head is

🥱

[full terrace]

If you want to go far in life you need to fix that attitude of yours young fella. Just a piece of advice, that mouth of yours will get you in big trouble one day, you can take it or leave it.

[worthy gorge]

do i have to block these sus guys?

[glass monolith]

Yesn't. One of spies who can be susvillian is invisible piece of shit

[elder flume]

If theyre enemies no need

Just have them in your range

Eventually they will turn

Blocking just makes sure they cant progress

[full terrace]

Some stages there are flag dudes that allow them to walk past

[narrow pendant]

What does that even have with what i said

What are u, a grandpa?

[full terrace]

You need to kill em if you want to block them to investigate btw

[elder flume]

Wonder if auto can do this stable

[glass monolith]

Or block flag dudes... At which point why not kill

[full terrace]

Exactly 😏

[vocal leaf]

a full team? is it for a super fast clear? i use 4 ops and they’re quick and stable

[round hinge]

Is virtuosa s3 the only skills i need to max?

[vocal leaf]

s1 is pretty good too

her best skill with is5 hand

[round hinge]

So lvl s3 and than s1?

[vocal leaf]

if you want, they are good

[elder flume]

idk i just looked at my ops and see they have nuking capabilities so Marcille buff squad it is

missing Suzu

fastest is prob around 2 mins

[vocal leaf]

yeah mine is 2 mins

ulpi so strong, he can keep heater and then jump into the boss

[rich plover]

Alright uh, need tips on the last normal stage to be consistent for farming

As in how do I bait Harold's ice attacks?

[round hinge]

do i max penance s2 or s3 first

[elder flume]

prioritize operator to the right of heater

[full terrace]

You dont bait

Or more like you cant bait

All you can do is to minimize the damage

He does the ice nuke based on the number of unlit Heaters

[rich plover]

So just use one or two Heaters, got it

[full terrace]

If all Heaters are light up

He does 1 ice nuke

If one unlit = he does 2 nukes

2 unlit = 3 nukes, and so on

[rich plover]

So light up as much as possible got it

[full terrace]

Nah you'll mostly die there unless Nightingale

Just make sure all Heaters are light up

Right before he nukes

[rich plover]

He charges up right as he's invincible yea?

[full terrace]

Yes

[glass monolith]

He disables heater closest to his location so only way to get fucked over less is somehow get them aligned. If you decide to block him in same spot (Which lmao he hits for 3600 physical crit in EX CM phase 2)

[full terrace]

Bro Minus, he is talking about making auto, which is RS-8 😏

[glass monolith]

Well boss position still related to which ovens he turn off

And i can't make cursed chain caster chain to turn on multiple heaters using boss as extend cord

[rich plover]

I got this team tho

Should I burst him down?

[full terrace]

If you can why not

[elder flume]

not with that squad

prob just normal nukes since not a lot of burst

[rich plover]

Does Degen help?

[full terrace]

I mean.. this event is her event so

[rich plover]

haha true

[sly drift]

Bro what happens to Thorns S3 alchemy if there are multiple ops (More than 4) with the same block count on the field

Will he choose the ops that make the area as wide as possible?

Or last deployed?

Or

[surreal star]

last deployed

and if the shape is concave it’ll exclude the middle point and form a triangle instead

[frank kraken]

Squad formation please

[worldly owl]

Can kind of put whatever in right now. Just include at least fang (for dp) and platinum (for drones)

[noble hollow]

sa fang lapp silence amiya gravel and whoever else you want

you're gonna want to raise sa and lapp asap since they're going to be your main early game carries

[frank kraken]

Alright, theres also red marking on some characters , i go their duplicates should i upgrade it

[south spindle]

Yes

[noble hollow]

yeah

few notable 4 stars to look out for can be humus and ethan

and make sure you go do the side story that gets you tequila he's pretty good

[frank kraken]

alright, is that the guy with hood and glasses

[noble hollow]

yeah i think

he's got colorful clothing

@frank kraken this is a good image to follow

[sly drift]

If I have Tequila already on E2 by ticket. I would prefer Thorns Over SA ngl.

[haughty flower]

No.

[sly drift]

Or Mountain just because he is easy to use. Strong even E1

[haughty flower]

Noer.

[sly drift]

Elaborate on why SA

[haughty flower]

Arknights is a DPS game, and Silverash is one of the best DPS ops you'll have readily available by the time you hit mid-game.
Anti-air if need be, large range and ability to hit more targets than Tequila makes him the standard pick.

[glass monolith]

Fast redeploy talent to deploy your dumb Texas alter

[haughty flower]

Thorns takes half the stage to charge up an afk laner skill, and mountain is beaten by even dogs when ch10 rolls around.

Blaze is similarly an afk unit, and exu is a marksman sniper.

[sly drift]

SA takes forever to charge. Fking 70s?

[glass monolith]

Chapter 10 dog pile up to 8 on guy who has DEF down for 2 block

First use of SA S3 is quick

[haughty flower]

SA DPS works because his module but also because the most important thing, windup to first use, is only 15.

[sly drift]

SA S3M3 mod3 is arguably best among those. But for newbie it absolutely tiresome to reach that far.

Ngl I'd still recommend Mountain to carry them early game
By the time they are ready for E2 ing operators. They are most likely get more broken shits because that's newer banners nowadays

[glass monolith]

Newbies have e2 on early game

[haughty flower]

Mountain will become dead weight relatively quickly, making him a poor investment.

And the recommended banners to pull on, besides Yu banner, are still months out.

Yu also is not quite DPS.

[dapper hedge]

SA has always been a heli drop doe

[sly drift]

Yea.. just personal opinion. Nothing serious

[dapper hedge]

He charge s3 faster if you redeploy him than waiting 70s

[haughty flower]

The problem is this is personal opinion in a channel basically focused on trying to provide help based on objective fact.

[sly drift]

Not helidropping take 90s you piece of EN. Have you ever think and read before commenting

Maybe I will just schleep. Schleepy time

[glass monolith]

Instead telling "Why SA" try to approach it from different side - Why NOT SA. And i personally will jump everyone who try to offer anything but SA and Saria

[haughty flower]

"but my e1 laner who gets cooked by every goddamn elite in later stages!"

[full terrace]

Valid, but the thing is, in long term investment SilverAsh has more value because his dps still stays relevant to an extent. Ofcourse if you compare his laning capability to a laner like Thorns or Mountain, he will be subpar, but if you play him like how you'd play Surtr: helidrop him, use S3 then retreat, I'm sure you can see the value of his burst over a stable laner like Thorns or Mountain

[haughty flower]

Fuck it at least give me thorns over mountain, at least he has range to protect him.

[full terrace]

I'm not saying he is the best, but in long term investment, he does have more value over laners

[dapper hedge]

What the fuck are you on a about

[sly drift]

Yes

[full terrace]

But then again, if you are having Tequila E2-ed and borrow dps unit all the way

[dapper hedge]

This is also unmmoded

[full terrace]

Then your argument is valid

[dapper hedge]

So its lower with mod3

[full terrace]

Thorns and Mountain could be better

Because your support unit fills the dps need

[sly drift]

SA initial SP is 75-90s
Pls shut the f up

[full terrace]

And so laner would have better overall performance

[haughty flower]

Even then layering DPS is still meta.
Your DPS won't be on skill forever.

There's a good reason why late game players basically have DPS after DPS with just a few support ops brought along.

[narrow pendant]

What if my dps had unlimited duration :realmad:

[haughty flower]

Waow Surtr M3 dps

[timid nacelle]

surtr hospital abuser

[glass monolith]

Geexu redeploys Surtr
This is getting out of hand, now there is 2 of them

[sly drift]

Still upset that you can't use those to ranged ops

Sike

[exotic sky]

I think i have all the characters i need except NG, but god damn it's a skill issue. I cant complete RS EX8 challenge mode.

Bro is just shutting heaters and immediatly after bursting 3 to 4 times in a row. I'm careful to keep heaters on so he burst less but he just shuts them down.

[timid nacelle]

what r ur units

[dapper hedge]

Just borrow her if that helps clear

[timid nacelle]

there's an easy 4 op with like ulpi gladiia ethan and shu

[haughty flower]

Tf Ethan doing

[full terrace]

Range/area coverage is your best friend in this event, you need a setup that, when the boss turns off a heater, your units will automatically hit them and light them up again

[timid nacelle]

keepin heaters alive

sec

[glass monolith]

I did cursed Stainless S3 Gladiia Ulp to reduce boss damage (~1700 < 3600) to tank him while i chill with reactivating heaters

[timid nacelle]

https://youtu.be/W4JmwH_jGLw?si=OAoc4__7EXfQ5pTC

I did something similar to this on my original playthrough but I didn't have ulpian/shu cuz they weren't out so it took like 3 more ops

so when this showed up on my feed I was pretty surprised

[haughty flower]

Wait holy shit Ethan's cooking.

I might do this for shits and giggles on my CM clear.

[timid nacelle]

s1 is better here too cuz of dot

[sly drift]

Haven't tried it but can you just Hoshi or Nian it with Ejyalt or Shining as healer? You can probably tank him forever just like those RA first Boss

[timid nacelle]

s2 will be slower

but ye if u can follow this it's pretty simple

just add units replace accordingly

shu/ethan can be replaced

hell even gladiia can be replaced with more healing

[noble hollow]

you can use ascalon instead of etan on s1 as well

[timid nacelle]

ye she's miles better

I need ascalon mommy banner already

[glass monolith]

EX CM phase 2 is 3600 hit every 4 seconds, cook yourself, i Ulped

[sly drift]

Lemme try (cook myself)

[timid nacelle]

silence alter or some cope might work

cuz of sanctuary

[glass monolith]

With enough medics everything is possible but your shitty medics will get distracted by people hit when he turns off ovens

[noble hollow]

no siga

[timid nacelle]

siga ?

[noble hollow]

yes

[timid nacelle]

is that he actual name

[noble hollow]

bro got the 11 medic 1 surtr squad comp

[noble hollow]

what no

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Cope i am proud off

[timid nacelle]

then what is that

[noble hollow]

you can figure it out

[timid nacelle]

bruh u actually tried

[glass monolith]

IT IS NOT HAROLD

[timid nacelle]

ik

but why on damatzi

[noble hollow]

bc damatzi is hard ig

[timid nacelle]

the creature doesn't deal much damage

[glass monolith]

Because this is how i "would" do damatzi... IF SILENCE ALTER WAS OUT AT THAT POINT

[noble hollow]

i really should do my h stages

[timid nacelle]

I don't think I can this time xd

[glass monolith]

It was more of the meme doing that with mainly regen as source of healing instead you know. Medics

[timid nacelle]

[teal moon]

someone has a fast rs8 trust farm, mine takes too long and I don't feel like using my brain

[glass monolith]

Laugh in all 4 Damatzi doing 1000 physical (Or was it 800 + guaranteed corrosion proc damage? i forgot) global range shot at Mlynar ass because i am not doing another Gravel bait of boss global skill after JT8-3

[dapper hedge]

Whats the avrg rs8 farm time anw

Mine like 2.30 or smt

[timid nacelle]

1000 physical is not much

[glass monolith]

Is not farmign RS8 an option? I personally barelly have usage for material it give

[full terrace]

2 mins

Exactly 2 mins

[glass monolith]

1000x4 + you have 0 def because he corrodes each time he use it

[timid nacelle]

ye I mean u have different blockers with high hp

[full terrace]

Can be 1 min-ish with super optimal setup but I mean

[glass monolith]

Not to mention global phase 2 cringe corode

[timid nacelle]

the damage ain't be doin shit

[full terrace]

I value trust slots

[timid nacelle]

as long as it doesn't 2 tap ur units I am ok with it

[teal moon]

it's the one whose mats I lack the most overall

[timid nacelle]

I have a few e2 max healers for the occasion

[teal moon]

I'm using gladiia+ulpi and it takes like minutes

[glass monolith]

Ulp S3?

[teal moon]

s2, i doubt he can survive with s3

[glass monolith]

RS8 is just uh 2400 instead 3600, bro won't feel it i'm sure

[teal moon]

I'll try, at most I'll add Reedic. Maybe with her s2 she can help me clear it faster

[narrow pendant]

He does

🫡

[teal moon]

I'll try it

[narrow pendant]

His throw alone takes 25% of boss hp

[wicked minnow]

depends on how many furnaces is on i'd imagine

[glass monolith]

Throw will have double meaning if he forget to lit ovens before it

[narrow pendant]

Each furnace is 35% dr

[teal moon]

I should have been less lazier and use a non afk skill

[narrow pendant]

Multiplicative

[wicked minnow]

damn that's awful

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Not like DR ever stopped us

[full terrace]

He can. S3 is in fact better if you could manage his timing

[dapper hedge]

I think jj using the duo gladiia ulpi strat that dont use furnace

[full terrace]

S2 is +60% HP +160% Atk only, S3 is +80% HP +260% Atk

[full terrace]

Yah I think so too, I can imagine that auto takes minutes to finish

[teal moon]

yeah, I just tried it since I didn't have too much time to strategize and since it worked I sticked with it

[exotic sky]

I have CE, Saria, Kal Tsit, Rose Salt trying to keep Mlynar and Degen up, they die anyway. Harold is a chad on challenge. I think i'll kill him on the rerun next year lmao

[sly drift]

Maxed hoshi take this much damage on one hit. Harold on Ex8 cm hit harder than Patriot

[full terrace]

This is the rerun what are you talking about

Aint no more rerun next year

[sly drift]

It's working with Hoshi shining ejya all afks but as expected her heal cringe unless you target shining healing especially for Hoshi

[glass monolith]

Dad is issue hits for 2400 x 4 every 4 seconds, EX CM phase 2 hits for 3600 every 4 second. Being fucked by enemy having DMG greater than reasonable amount of DEF.... "How many of those things are there?" Knight is 2700 x 3 on H stage

[exotic sky]

Oh damn

[haughty flower]

What being ulpiless does to a mf

[dapper hedge]

Huh i remember him being harder before

[glass monolith]

I.... Mlynared him too on original run of event

[dapper hedge]

I hope naran mod get her talent1, attack steal actually goes so hard

[graceful geyser]

do you guys usually take rhoder's gate colectable or take the top op rec. voucher? in refrance of IS

[dapper hedge]

Rhoder

Its the best relic in is5 rn

[graceful geyser]

ook, i'll pick that one if i encounter it again

[dapper hedge]

You know how it works right

[vocal leaf]

actually 50%, he can wait boss to lose immunity and attack again, he’s too stronk

he and thorns kill boss in 40 seconds, easy farming

gladiia and eyja for morale support

[graceful geyser]

wdym?

[dapper hedge]

You know how the relic works right? Just like the portal enemy?

[glass monolith]

(Spot for "Does he know" meme)

[graceful geyser]

oh that yup

[dapper hedge]

Ya just wanna make sure you dont accidentally send out your cores early on the floor

[graceful geyser]

oh wait those portal things actually have a use other then eating the spiting your ops out? I was wondering why it was added

[graceful geyser]

i see what u mean now

[dapper hedge]

Its free scout

So if they get eaten by portal they get e2'ed + bring back 1 plan + 2 hope the next floor

This is why the rhoder gate is super good

[glass monolith]

If only IS2 with 11 hope recruitments had any

[sick flare]

@haughty flower I don’t have any drill plans to practice RS-EX-8 today but this is the team I used for RS-8… I think you can imagine why EX-8 might be a little spicy for this squad

[haughty flower]

Mulberry

[sick flare]

I wanted another medic for emergencies

[haughty flower]

Well, what do you know, think I found a guide for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhndylsldL0

[steel prairie]

question: if Mylnar block is 0 does that mean he is immune to melee attacks ?????

[haughty flower]

Just replace jaye and you should be able to roughly replicate this.

[haughty flower]

Off skill, yes. On skill, obviously not.

He'll act like any other block 0 op when not swinging about, just with taunt.

[steel prairie]

I accidently got Mylnar when doing a free roll

[wicked minnow]

no. he gets 3 block on skill. if he is blocking an enemy then he gets melee'd. if mlynar skill ends as the melee animation of an enemy was playing, the melee still goes through and damages mlynar. the enemy is no longer blocked so starts walking and stops meleeing mlynar

[steel prairie]

I heard Mylnar is cracked af but Im not a fan of that block 0

[sick flare]

will take a look, I figured I would be borrowing Mlynar for this

[haughty flower]

Use him as dps, not a blocker.

[south spindle]

congrats top 3 operator in the game

[haughty flower]

Think of him like a ranged dps op, but one you place on the ground, if it helps.

[south spindle]

if you are worried about block count you haven't played the game enough

[steel prairie]

ik but it might take me a while to get used to that block 0

[wicked minnow]

0 block usually just means he is more survivable and you can position him better

[south spindle]

mlynar is still targetted by ranged ttacks

you can use him as bait

[steel prairie]

but I did hear he is one of the most op characters... worthy of Nearl Uncle lol

[south spindle]

he has taunt

[glass monolith]

Then you yet to witness strategic value of being unable to block shit which we get in Babel rerun

[steel prairie]

I heard about that

[haughty flower]

I think I did something wrong, I spent all of babel blocking shit with ulpi

[glass monolith]

Works too

[steel prairie]

speaking of that the chains themselves actually act as a speed bump ??? (but they have to cross the path ?)

[haughty flower]

Different enemies interact differently with chains of other-the babel chains.

[glass monolith]

You have to chain operator on normal tile with operator on messed up tile and some Babel enemies heavily debuffed when in chain (Also I believe universal slow). Babel contains a single enemy to destroy chains he is hit with

[haughty flower]

Tldr: read.

[haughty flower]

There's also the rather annoying guitar guys who instead attack everyone on a chain from range usually.

[south spindle]

would you say they jerk your chains

[glass monolith]

Luckily it is stunable

[haughty flower]

They jerk the Chains of Others.

[steel prairie]

also on the Side missions Im on BB-9 and I do not want to deal with emotional dmg

Im refusing to do BB-9

[haughty flower]

Huge skill issue.

[south spindle]

BB is getting reran in 5 months

no need to do it right now anyways

[glass monolith]

Embrace your roadblock nature

[south spindle]

you will need to do it again for the rerun too

[steel prairie]

I started on it like 3 weeks ago ???

but Imma just stop on BB-9

[haughty flower]

Understand how to do things for the greater good and you'll start thinking like a real commie.

[steel prairie]

lol

[south spindle]

yes BB will have event rerun in novemberish not sure exact

[haughty flower]

Don't forget to give the CCP your data while you're at it.

[steel prairie]

brruh

[glass monolith]

Screw greater good I am here to make game suffer

[haughty flower]

That's the virgin post-amnesia mindset.

[steel prairie]

I think Im healthy on dps now so should I go E2 my medics ???

[south spindle]

show account / krooster

[haughty flower]

He's about to show that e1max mulberry, I can feel it.

[steel prairie]

uhhh hold on Im grinding and playing MFS at the same time LMAO

Im grinding event 7 while also playing MFS so hold on LOL

[south spindle]

you should only be farming the current event with all your sanity for most cases

[steel prairie]

yeah I am farming those maganese

while also playing other games LMAO

[south spindle]

thats the worst thing to farm

[steel prairie]

I need it tho

[south spindle]

its being added to infinite shop

in 6 months

only farm what you need dont overfarm

[steel prairie]

errr isnt that a long way tho

[south spindle]

yes just farm what you need

do you still not have krooster set up

[steel prairie]

I have like 0 maganese... which is why I need them

[south spindle]

i thought itold you to set it up

[steel prairie]

I did set it up but the linking is werid hold on

one sec

[steel prairie]

wait I did level up some Ops but its not matching my Krooster ???

do I have to import it again ???

how do I refresh Krooster ???

[south spindle]

There is an import button

You literally see it if you just click around the site

Stop spamming question marks like that it’s annoying to look at

[steel prairie]

is the picture clear ???

[proud bluff]

Raise your base slaves 😠

[lofty stag]

At least get ur ops to sl7

[full terrace]

😏

Lemme know if you want a 1:1 lecture on how to achieve that

[lofty stag]

No

🥱

[south spindle]

just ignored what i said about the questionmarks huh

and the point of krooster is to share it via link

you could just screen shotted your game at this point

You have several ops to raise before any E2 medics, Ray Mod3 Masteries, ZuoLe, Mlynar

[steel prairie]

sry old habits

[steel prairie]

you mean the website link ?

I dont find any links on Kroosters itself

[steel prairie]

I thought I did raise them... the guide said most can be raised at E0 lvl 40 or E1 lvl1

[south spindle]

go to profile and there is a link button

and update it i don't see mlynar on that image

[proud bluff]

4* need e1

[steel prairie]

oh ok

[steel prairie]

is it this link ? (and why tf they have to hide it so deep ?)

[south spindle]

yes

[steel prairie]

bruh do seriously have to hide thro that many layers ???

[south spindle]

idk leave them feedback

just poor site design

you did it again

[maiden hound]

you did it again

[proud bluff]

You, indeed, did it again

[steel prairie]

bruh its old habits man

[south spindle]

you can change your krooster name

[haughty flower]

Like your habit of levelling mulberry, huh.

[steel prairie]

also I thought you knew my Mulberry was E1 like long time ago ?

like I had E1 Mullberry for very long

[lofty stag]

She does NOT need lvl60 tho

[steel prairie]

I need tho range man... it has good coverage

[lofty stag]

That’s not lvl related man

[steel prairie]

also I swear she was 50

[south spindle]

Whatever don't E1 max unless ready to E2

leave at lvl 50

i don't see any E1 maxes so thats good

you're missing masteries on everything

[lofty stag]

A bright spark in darkness

[steel prairie]

https://www.krooster.com/u/suave-tan-jackie-63f2 ok here is the link

[lofty stag]

Tex s1m3:

[south spindle]

i already got it

[south spindle]

they probably use 5* mastery voucher

albiet poor choice

[full terrace]

She DOES need to be Lv60 so it's YOUR fault

[proud bluff]

Hackerman

[steel prairie]

who ever made Krooster definetly wasnt paid well as Genshin character website

[south spindle]

Ray needs s3m3 mod3
Lin S3M3
Zuo Le E2 + S3M3 + ModX3
Mlynar E2 + S3M3

[lofty stag]

Elite ball knowledge

[steel prairie]

huh I never modded Texas

[full terrace]

[south spindle]

i have a shortcut for everything

[haughty flower]

Forgot Mylnar mod for when it comes to EN smh smh

[steel prairie]

did it arrive yet ?

[south spindle]

you sound like you don't have mlynar mod

loser

[lofty stag]

Not what I meant man

[south spindle]

No 5 months

[maiden hound]

also get blaze module

[haughty flower]

My uncle works for Lowlight so I have it.

[south spindle]

read my actual username, no you don't, your uncles fired now

[steel prairie]

so indeed get the mods for dps first before the raising the medics

[proud bluff]

No, raise your units frfr before doing mods

Like get sl7 on everyone

E2 surtr and zuo

[full terrace]

Do you have shortcut for calculating Dusk% in Yu banner too ???

???

[south spindle]

thats same as every other x1 rate

[full terrace]

You do ???

[south spindle]

https://imgur.com/Gnz2nZ0.png

[haughty flower]

You asked world's easiest question wtfart

[full terrace]

Oh nice ???

[south spindle]

column #3

[proud bluff]

Light is very efficient

[south spindle]

Arf im gonna merc you

[lofty stag]

Light show him the actual chart

[haughty flower]

Actual fodder question, if your question was an enemy it'd be a dog.

[south spindle]

Square up

[south spindle]

theres one just for you

credit to rechord

🥹

[full terrace]

😄

[lofty stag]

wtf I’m the one curses people to get fartooths

[proud bluff]

Where's mine
Pinus isn't complete 😠

[south spindle]

ask rechord

[lofty stag]

You just get offrate saileach 🥀

[south spindle]

@astral cosmos

[south spindle]

have you been spamming ->

?

[steel prairie]

no ? I have been stacking them

[south spindle]

how are you lvl 86

and started march 15 2025

[proud bluff]

You've been pulling on kernel

[south spindle]

wtfart

[lofty stag]

Wdym stacking

[south spindle]

i started 2 months before you and im lvl 82

and i never leak sanity + buy monthly

[steel prairie]

oh thats way before...... because I didnt understand anything lol

[maiden hound]

clearly you have skil issu

[proud bluff]

Light so baby 🥹

[south spindle]

https://krooster.com/u/light

🥹

[steel prairie]

these off rates are higher than the real rates I swear

[south spindle]

then why is your start date march

unless you manually changed it

[full terrace]

My alt is older than you

[south spindle]

my alt is older than you too

[proud bluff]

No jessalt skin

[south spindle]

do i not have your main added arf

oh ig not

whats its age

[steel prairie]

when I first started initially I did put Originuims into sanity because I didnt expect the game to be this hard since I didnt understand anything... hence how I leveled up so fast

after that I stopped because I realize DONT do that

[full terrace]

Nope you said you dont need to coz I had 100/100 clue traders 😂

[south spindle]

so you did make account on on march 15th right

[steel prairie]

yes

[south spindle]

damn

[steel prairie]

yeah because I didnt expect it to be that hard

[lofty stag]

And yet that account is terrible for lvl 86

[south spindle]

my account is slightly boosted

[proud bluff]

Whel

[lofty stag]

Pray tell why that is myon

[maiden hound]

🍿

[steel prairie]

bruh even with starters during the first few weeks the difficulty spike is insane

[south spindle]

am i stupid or like

[maiden hound]

🍿 😋

[south spindle]

how the hell do you find the average 6* rate mathematically

wtf

[dapper hedge]

Its ok on release a lot of people also throw in a lot of originium to sanity in grani event

[south spindle]

i hate actual probability math so much easier to just Monte Carlo it

[steel prairie]

grani event ?

[dapper hedge]

Cause ppl saying kohl farming is rare back then :icant:

[proud bluff]

isn't it simply 0.98^n until you exceed 50% ?

[lofty stag]

The first main event ak ever had

[steel prairie]

oh ok

[south spindle]

yeah that exceed 50 is the silly part

[steel prairie]

i need to mark this lol

[south spindle]

Do E2s + SL7 first then Masteries / Mods
Of those operators

i can probably clear through chapter 13 adverse on your account as is

🥹

[elder flume]

Yep auto fails

[proud bluff]

Is it for your own clear ? Ulpi is very stable

[lofty stag]

Mine didn’t even use ulpi

[steel prairie]

ok my Ray is my first mod ever

[wicked viper]

well for RS-8

you rather speedrun the stage tbh

this stage takes ages to run

[elder flume]

Ye i just dont wana deal with phase 2 shenanigans

Marcille is technically fastest burst in my current roster since Eben n Ray are staying at E1 1 for shifting reasons

[proud bluff]

You have enough time to burst p2 within one ng s3

[steel prairie]

Hey man I first got into Arknights for waifus not some big brain calculus course

[elder flume]

Oya i can just tank it with NG thats true

[steel prairie]

is there no one that can tank these dudes ???

[haughty flower]

Notice how they deal arts?
That's right. Allies with either high hp or high res and a decent hp pool deal with them just fine. It's even better if they have a good healer on them. Try and kill them anyways, ranged enemies are always annoying.

[steel prairie]

ok I beat it... but main issue is that they are outsnipping me beyond the fire place

and besides Ray I have no one else that has a 5 grid range

also Ray 5th grid only covers one tile

[safe cape]

Guys is Thorn good for grinding Onigirium? (I'm accidently up him to elite 1 and I still don't know is worth it for up him to elite 2

[haughty flower]

Good for what.

[vocal leaf]

you mean like whether he’s good for anni or not? he’s very good as afk op

[vital arrow]

Wdym by grinding originium

He's useless before he gets his E2

[scarlet mortar]

a levelled thorns is... fine for annis ig

[haughty flower]

He's a fine afk op at e2, but he's only just that-fine. He's not outstanding in any way, and depending on your roster it might not be worth raising him and instead levelling others.

[scarlet mortar]

but that means E2

[vital arrow]

Theyr probably new

[haughty flower]

He also wants his mod a bit to get some extra chip damage in. The atk improvement and stacking poison genuinely do help.

[vocal leaf]

the thorns hate is crazy

[vital arrow]

Modless thorns is fine until they get to like

Ch10

[scarlet mortar]

sorry the hate comes from first hand experience

[haughty flower]

Modless thorns manages to hold the left side of mandra stage with just a bit of extra help, I think.

[scarlet mortar]

his ass is Not killing nontrivial enemies

[vital arrow]

He just needs a marksman on left side mandra

[haughty flower]

But by a bit I mean a whole ass other op.

[scarlet mortar]

this is sad

[haughty flower]

Modded he holds it fine!

[scarlet mortar]

🚮

[haughty flower]

Ch8 and 9 were probably the most practical use I got out of him, I still used him Ch10-14 but he was just another body to throw.

[vocal leaf]

sounds like the type of person that would put hoederer to kill dogs

[safe cape]

Well what could I say I'm noob and don't know what to do?

[vital arrow]

Huh?

We dont know what "grinding originium" is

[safe cape]

Oh I mean grinding chip,my bad sorry

[vital arrow]

Is it annihilation stage? Is it progressing story

Grinding chips for newbies has different teams

You usually pick the class of the chip stage

[safe cape]

What about progressing story? Is he good?

[vital arrow]

Useless before E2

[scarlet mortar]

hoe would actually survive and spank a good number of elites though

thing is thorns is old ah hell, he got his mod way too late for me to bother

[safe cape]

What about Ines? Is she good? (I up her to E2 already)

[vital arrow]

Shes good

[safe cape]

Thanks

[steel prairie]

how tf you got Ines ???

[scarlet mortar]

skill

[vocal leaf]

yeah this is my point, you don’t use hoe for trash mobs, why would you put thorns to kill high def elite mobs, he’s like a ground marksman, just take advantage of what he’s good at

[safe cape]

Well I don't quite remember when but it was in a event, I gamble and got her at the 5th time

[scarlet mortar]

i mean that is my point though

trash killers are a waste

any number of ops can kill trash, thorns isn't even the best at that

most of the time i can put mizuki down and not even bother

[vital arrow]

Theres a schism between "thons fell off" and "thorns is bad"

[wicked viper]

we "hate" thorns because we used him before and fully know his limit

[vital arrow]

Thorns isnt inherently bad, he's still a solid operator
And he also fell off because of stat bloat

If you have no one better than thorns, then he's still good

[scarlet mortar]

i mean he's not "bad" if we're looking at the full spectrum

[wicked viper]

also negative opinion does not equate "hate" either

[vital arrow]

He's still good even if you have someone better than him, my current event auto still uses him

[scarlet mortar]

but i wouldn't bother with him as someone who's built so many other ops

[wicked viper]

for example
we dont hate lessing because he is bad
he is bad because he is bad
our opinion does not matter here

[vital arrow]

If youre a vet with a lot of ops, and you recently just got thorns

Then theres little value on him

Unless theyre into afk

[vocal leaf]

then we’re both biased, i only e2 mizuki for base while i actually use thorns, also thorns can hit air, he has that on his favor, mizuki has aoe and 0 block, at the end depends on the context like always

[vital arrow]

Thorns is a nice comfort op

He can block, he has ranged dps, can hit air

Mizuki outside of IS I can confidently say he's worse than thorns

[scarlet mortar]

i'd agree it's up to preference

though i've rarely had issues where i wanted my afk ground op a la mzk to hit air anw

[haughty flower]

IS3:

[scarlet mortar]

afk'ing in IS is lame....

[vital arrow]

More like

IS2

[haughty flower]

Hell if I'm going to try during the ed1 fight

I just want the right lane held so I can farm more levels damnit.

[scarlet mortar]

shrimply rosa + besieger hand + black tulip

[haughty flower]

Rosa
As in the Rosa
The Rosa from kernel banner
The Kernel banner Rosa

[smoky halo]

mizuki is so broken in is2ed1

he can shift cancel the golem so u can actually open

(needs p6 though)

p2w game strikes again 😭

[haughty flower]

Why do you need p6?

[scarlet mortar]

dog rush