strategy

[steel prairie]

but is the boss super durable like Lappa Alter tho ???

[scarlet mortar]

the reason people recommend against many vg's is bc the vg's themselves are early DP sinks

[haughty flower]

The thing is, he only dashes 2 times.
Intercept him early in phase 2 with either a defender + healer + DPS or Crusher + healer, and you're fine.

[steel prairie]

uhhh wdym by DP sink ???

[scarlet mortar]

like, you can wait two extra seconds and deploy logos instead of two chargers

DP lost

[steel prairie]

oh

[jovial basalt]

If you pull chargers you get full DP back... I don't get your point

[steel prairie]

for me it depends on how many lanes does a map have and how many enemies they are gonna throw at you from the start

[scarlet mortar]

chargers pay off their presence by killing enemies, but multiple chargers don't kill the same enemies significantly faster than the one charger

[steel prairie]

depends on how many lanes there are

[jovial basalt]

There's usually multiple lanes

[steel prairie]

and if they are swarming you

[scarlet mortar]

and not that many enemies

[haughty flower]

Chargers actually have one of the worst payoffs in terms of DP generated over a period of time.

[scarlet mortar]

i did say you can use one vharger

[jovial basalt]

Also I put them in a wedge formation with siege so siege can benefit from them like an sp batt

[haughty flower]

They rival Tacticians in that regard.

[south spindle]

if you don't have agents
one offensive vg, and a flag and you're usually set up for most stages

[jovial basalt]

True, but I'm using them for DPS as well

[steel prairie]

for me I just deploy Bagpipe and Flametail... if its a single lane Bagpipe in front and Flametail behind her to prevent leak

[jovial basalt]

Sometimes I bring out ones, but she's still levelling

[charred summit]

any trust farm strat for ep-8 that don't use shu?

[steel prairie]

two lanes or more they each take a lane

[south spindle]

Once you have Ines leveled her and myrtle can open 99% of stages in the game
even at E1 Ines is fine and better than every other vanguard

[jovial basalt]

Even beanstalk?

[tall sierra]

I did oyuki strat

[haughty flower]

And therein lies the issue-you've turned them into a jack-of-all-trades that, from a moderate to very meta perspective, falls off fast in terms of efficacy the tougher content gets.

[scarlet mortar]

if they were enough to handle a stage, then chargers are fine

but also note that you're exchanging squad space by having 4 chargers instead of 1 and other classes providing dps/utilities

[steel prairie]

I usually retreat my VG (few exeptions is that sometimes Bagpipe stays because I need that S3 for tough targets)

[jovial basalt]

If they can't hang in a level I pull them, but they're not going to be taking down bosses or anything like that

[scarlet mortar]

chargers kinda don't kill a significant part of harder stages nowadays too

[scarlet mortar]

that's the DP sink part

they return their full DP cost, sure, but only if you retreat them

[steel prairie]

wait really ??? how am I losing DP tho (at that point most DPS are deployed )

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/xjs4JEHMR-Y?si=YfHMRPd4DLgamHg8

Pick one

[tall sierra]

Vg are early line frontline to block and kill until the more powerful op is ready

[steel prairie]

ik that... I do retreat my VG most of the time..... until a super tough nut that I cant crack and need MAX firepower

[jovial basalt]

Yes, that's what the textbook says

[scarlet mortar]

so if i say, deployed two chargers, waited two seconds, and retreated them to deploy logos, the chargers would've contributed nothing

[south spindle]

yes Bagpipe S3 makes sense she is a bit of a statstick but up until some point

[steel prairie]

for me its only rare occasion

man lack of arts dmg sucks... especially AOE ones

[jovial basalt]

Ig my problem is I don't like using arts. My core of casters is criminally underdeveloped, and I have bludgeonedy way through most stages using mainly phys only. Not all, most

[narrow pendant]

What cooking

Hi light

[south spindle]

hey fredi

[steel prairie]

imagine having AOE casters (me with like almost none)

[jovial basalt]

Well that's just you being silly then, lol

[south spindle]

AOE casters mostly suck

you don't need them

[steel prairie]

ehh ??? but what about swarms ???

[haughty flower]

#strategy message This and 4 chargers, we're just debating the charger bit for now.

[south spindle]

theres other operators for swarms

and usually don't necessarily need arts for a swarm
swarm implies less heavy enemies, don't usually need arts unless its a specific stage

[narrow pendant]

Nice

[scarlet mortar]

i'm highlighting how inefficient having more than 2 chargers is

one charger is enough for early mobs nowadays

[steel prairie]

what are some good examples of Ops against swarms

[scarlet mortar]

what're you bringing the others for

[south spindle]

any operator that can do any AOE or even multihit, doesn't have to be a splash

[jovial basalt]

I said I usually use 2. 4 is when I'm being silly or unsure of somethting

[scarlet mortar]

if you deploy two chargers to kill one mob, that's only one DP

[steel prairie]

oh I mean like for example in chapter 9 and 10 they toss like 10 Riot guards at you

[narrow pendant]

Wtf 4 chargers

Insanity

[scarlet mortar]

yh 4 is far and away in the realm of inefficiency

[jovial basalt]

Now you're def being silly

[scarlet mortar]

you're just not supposed to bring 4

[jovial basalt]

It's fun

[steel prairie]

its fun but not efficient

[haughty flower]

You need a single agent.

[south spindle]

the chapter 9 mobs are literally anti arts

[jovial basalt]

I was supposed to go to college too

[narrow pendant]

Youre not even supposed to bring one
Only viable chargers is bagpipe and shes washed by now too

[steel prairie]

yeah but ok I mean AOE in general

is there even physical AOE ???

[scarlet mortar]

i mean they really wanted to bring chargers

[steel prairie]

I thought all AOE are arts

[scarlet mortar]

so i'm allowing the one

[narrow pendant]

A lot

[jovial basalt]

Tons dude

[south spindle]

idk what you have
and yes there is physical aoe, and multihit is pseudo aoe anyways

[scarlet mortar]

but in harder stages it's fairly expected for chargers to eat shit to an early elite

[south spindle]

reapers, flingers as a sublcass will do physical aoe

[steel prairie]

bruh I thought all AOE are arts tf ??? (or they look like arts)

[narrow pendant]

Just have better st

🥱

[scarlet mortar]

so they don't even pay off their singular presence

[south spindle]

read better

[narrow pendant]

Yiur fault for thinking that

U should stop

[south spindle]

Mlynar hits 6
not true AOE but is anything gonna survive no

[jovial basalt]

Artilleryman, crushers both do aoe as a class trait

[steel prairie]

idt I have a single reaper ????????

[scarlet mortar]

crushers do multitarget but anw

[south spindle]

reapers aren't even allat doesn't matter

[haughty flower]

Simple example: Ulpianus s3.

[south spindle]

what do you have

do you have krooster?

[scarlet mortar]

ulpianus does aoe as part of his skill*

[jovial basalt]

Potatoes tomatoes

[steel prairie]

yes I have Kroosters (but its a mess)

hold on

[scarlet mortar]

hey it matters!

[south spindle]

just link it

[scarlet mortar]

i too would rather degenbrecher be aoe and not capped to 6 targets

[steel prairie]

if I can even get there first

[scarlet mortar]

but we can't win all the time

[narrow pendant]

Nope, it matters!
Cuz reapers will hit 100, but crushes only 2!

[south spindle]

Degenbrecher S2 is AOE even though target limit

[jovial basalt]

I like Jessica alt for aoe

[narrow pendant]

[scarlet mortar]

jess is funny

[south spindle]

thats one instance of AOE but sure

[scarlet mortar]

i wish she had pierce

[jovial basalt]

Also toddifons

[south spindle]

that would be nice, underflow is so cool

[jovial basalt]

Oh all fortresses do phys aoe

You said you like defenders so...

[shy gull]

Liskarm with the humble arts aoe (It only hits 3)

Wait nvm I'm stupid

She's a sentry, not a fortress 😭

[south spindle]

well still arts aoe (not true aoe)

[jovial basalt]

Liskarms got that self stun tho D;

[haughty flower]

Another case of Jack of all trades.

[tall sierra]

Nymph s2

[still vessel]

john spark

whatever bo

[jovial basalt]

Fortresses I have are horn, fire whistle, and ashlock

[shy gull]

Do you know if this channel allows links?

[haughty flower]

Lower def than regular defenders, lower damage than laneholders need, skills are defensive recovery which often hurts charge time.

[south spindle]

silence unconceived player

[shy gull]

I wanna post my stupid EX-8 run

[still vessel]

not even one but triple is crazy

[scarlet mortar]

which sentries have def rec besides liskarm S2

[south spindle]

more like 4 in a row if you count PV potentially 5

[still vessel]

[scarlet mortar]

aren't all the others auto rec

liskarm S1 is also auto rec

[jovial basalt]

This is why I swapped her out for jess2 when I got her. Too many confused directions for her char

[haughty flower]

I'm talking Liskarm in particular

[south spindle]

prob upload youtube if anything
links are fine, prob put it on a reputable site

[scarlet mortar]

yh you only bring liskarm for the tech

[still vessel]

idk why im even saying this im probably gonna follow in your footsteps

[narrow pendant]

As help yes, as just a showcase not too much, since it tdchnicaly counts as self-promo which isnt allpwed

[scarlet mortar]

as a standalone she sucks ass lmao

[haughty flower]

Not sentry defs, Jess2 is bing chilling and even Underflow isn't horrid because her s2 has theoretical use cases

[shy gull]

👍

[shy gull]

I guess help for anyone who has 0 of the super meta stuff??

Idk even what is really meta

[scarlet mortar]

ehhh

people have a wide range of stuff

[still vessel]

you can clear without meta ngl

low rarity already been done

[jovial basalt]

Metas always changing. I don't even keep up with it

[narrow pendant]

U use 4 chargers, ofc u dont

🥀

[shy gull]

Dang

[south spindle]

either you are making a clear for a specific person (spoon feeding sucks but whatever)
or easy clear with low rarity + 1 (wis) borrow
or easy clear with meta
other than that most people don't care lol

[still vessel]

even if you cant do low rarity, just turn off brain and borrow wis

[scarlet mortar]

the meta doesn't change that much lmao

[jovial basalt]

You guys love to ignore things

[haughty flower]

You can do everything without a single so called meta op so long as you at least do 4* ups, but don't get upset is suboptimal ops are, indeed, suboptimal without intense effort.

[shy gull]

It probably falls into none of those categories

[south spindle]

then will probably be ignored

[scarlet mortar]

for general content the barrier is so absurdly low the meta might as well be [insert 6*]

[still vessel]

only time meta is considered is high diff is and max risk cc

[narrow pendant]

Unless youre like, dumb as a rock, you can clear anything with like any 6*

[jovial basalt]

4*s are all niche.

[still vessel]

even then they have different metas

[south spindle]

niche?

[scarlet mortar]

if we're looking at CCB max or IS d15 we'll be more specific

[south spindle]

4* are good because they do their job effectively

[narrow pendant]

Niche my ass

[lofty stag]

Damn looks like I can’t use my gravel anymore

[jovial basalt]

And all of their jobs are niche

[scarlet mortar]

no?

[lofty stag]

Man

[lofty sundial]

no

[still vessel]

huh when were 4 stars niche

[south spindle]

they do general jobs, few 4* are actually niche since they physically don't have enough in their kit to be niche

5* are the niche ones lmao

[scarlet mortar]

the 4*s just have basic bitch design, none of them properly qualify as "niche"

[still vessel]

they're supposed to be THE general ops

[jovial basalt]

They eventually get outclassed bc of this reason or that, but are still good at their one thing. Like rangers

[south spindle]

Rangers the 2*?

[scarlet mortar]

they can be outclassed eventually

[lofty stag]

All of us here know what niche means right

[scarlet mortar]

for developing players we recommend 4*s more than 6*s lol

[south spindle]

4* are obv outclassed by any higher rarity
but the point is accesibility... and cost effectiveness

[jovial basalt]

His niche is anti air, like meteor

[lofty sundial]

that's subclass

[still vessel]

anti air isnt a niche

[south spindle]

okay you are just using niche to define the word usage

[scarlet mortar]

antiair is barely a niche nowadays

[haughty flower]

Meteor is not anti air

[lofty stag]

…semantics

[jovial basalt]

Agreed. It takes so much less to E2 a 4*

[jovial basalt]

Excuse?

[south spindle]

calling something niche means very specific usage. key word very

[lofty sundial]

meteor shred defense

[haughty flower]

She's anti-good investment

[shy gull]

Is this even strategy talk anymore?

[jovial basalt]

I know

[still vessel]

turned into a teaching sesh ig

[south spindle]

yeah meteor is actually kind of niche because shes used for def-shred

[shy gull]

Fair enough

[scarlet mortar]

meteor for anti-air niche (has less dps against flying enemies than may if she isn't mod3)

[south spindle]

most other 4* are general use
literally do not have enough in their kit to be a niche operator

[narrow pendant]

Anti air isnt a niche🥹

What is this

[still vessel]

what i said fred

[lofty stag]

Hollow brain zone

[narrow pendant]

Niches are like binding, or stun remkvals

[scarlet mortar]

i've always thought this was tragic, considering i raised meteor for early flying enemies myself

[narrow pendant]

Not enemy targetting

🥹

[scarlet mortar]

back in year 2 or sth

🥹

[lofty stag]

Is bro still here

[jovial basalt]

I use other chars for both def shred and AA

[lofty stag]

Nvm he is

[shy gull]

Who else shreds def?

[south spindle]

okay semantics ig
being a niche operator -> specific cases you use that operator
an operator having a niche -> some specific property

[lofty stag]

Shamare

[shy gull]

I guess that counts

But I hate supporters with a burning passion

[scarlet mortar]

unfortunately antiair stopped being a real niche when we got snipers/casters/guards who shit out 4x the damage to aerial enemies

[lofty stag]

Not like she’s used in general gameplay

[jovial basalt]

Meteorite, pramanix, toddifons (gotta really be in the mood for that one, and I stack meteor with her)

[scarlet mortar]

compared to the actual ops that were classified as "anti-air operators"

[jovial basalt]

Honestly tho I gotta be bringing a lot of phys aoe to bring toddifons for that, but it rarely happens

[scarlet mortar]

ig specs too, ela and all

[south spindle]

we jumping through alot of hoops for lack of casters

[shy gull]

I don't see why you reduce defense when you can just have Ray do 5000 damage :D

[narrow pendant]

Using any of them is wild enough

Using then all is like

Mental

🥹

[south spindle]

but thats not any basis for optimal even if it works fine (for general content atleast)

[jovial basalt]

We have already established that you guys can't understand my hardcore play style lol

[south spindle]

okay cool then move along nothing to establish

[narrow pendant]

Hardcore?

[shy gull]

He's beyond our comprehension

[south spindle]

fredi don't even bother

🥀

[still vessel]

he has ascended

[scarlet mortar]

we do understand that you're having fun

[narrow pendant]

Whatever keeps the hospital staff away

[jovial basalt]

True, and it's not like I'm taking this to bossfights

[scarlet mortar]

i wouldn't call it hardcore

[lofty stag]

Hardcore is crazy work

[narrow pendant]

🥀

Myon v.2

[scarlet mortar]

like idk, are you bringing this to VEC-08 buffless?

[still vessel]

hardcore is more low op clear or low rarity clear

[south spindle]

okay cool this guy can keep playing his anti caster agenda

rest of us move along

[jovial basalt]

Casters suck unless.theyre lava

Or nightmare

[maiden hound]

truth nuke

[jovial basalt]

Or haze

[lofty stag]

Ain’t no fucking way

[maiden hound]

truth tsar bomba

[lofty stag]

This is bait

Has to be

[maiden hound]

you cannot comprehend the truth

[south spindle]

what are you even going for

[jovial basalt]

No I really just hate magic with a passion

[south spindle]

okay then dont comment in a objective channel using your bias

[lofty stag]

Rage bait to rival max

[narrow pendant]

The master baiter

[lofty stag]

[jovial basalt]

It was an obvious non serious comment

[shy gull]

Is getting Exusiai worth it or should I just keep Jessica like the goose I am?

[south spindle]

can't tell at some point whats serious and not

[lofty stag]

Just use kroos

[narrow pendant]

Jessica the 4*

[still vessel]

exusiai scales so bad she is not worth

[narrow pendant]

Use kroos/ter instead

[south spindle]

use 3* kroos until you get 5* krooster (Invitation to Wine Side Story)

[narrow pendant]

Jessica the 4* sucks

[shy gull]

Guh

[jovial basalt]

I got exusiainafter kroos alt so I honestly can't tell if she's good or not ..

[narrow pendant]

Exu sucks too

[shy gull]

Really?

[narrow pendant]

Yea

[south spindle]

shes one of the bad 4* 🥀

[still vessel]

exu dmg falls off a cliff as soon as defense gets involved

[south spindle]

3* kroos is better

[narrow pendant]

If u must ise a 4* sniper, use May instead

or again, just kroos

[shy gull]

Consider me surprised

[still vessel]

may, totter, pinecone are great side options

[shy gull]

I'm working on getting Kroos*5

[narrow pendant]

Totter a bit less

[jovial basalt]

Def worth

[shy gull]

I'm just to lazy and wanna actually look at the story

[narrow pendant]

Hes good but may has better dps for early stages

[jovial basalt]

I been meaning to ask, how do you guys see grey throat in that convos?

[scarlet mortar]

may was the prototype to kroos2, both are worth bc their crits push them above the marksman tar pit

[still vessel]

i use him cause he can hit invis targets but yeah

[narrow pendant]

🚮

^

[scarlet mortar]

greythroat has less theoretical dps than kroos2 iirc

[narrow pendant]

Like that

[maiden hound]

fallen into irrelevance unfortunately

[south spindle]

All marksmen are at the mercy of Krooster
Even 6* ones by the fact that they cost more to do nothing special (existing marksmen)

[scarlet mortar]

worse total damage, worse crits etc

[jovial basalt]

That's sad

[jovial basalt]

To be fair, krooster

[scarlet mortar]

like you just run the numbers and greythroat gets binted

[still vessel]

is that why they dont like giving us good welfare units

[narrow pendant]

Indeed

[south spindle]

Welfare units do not make them money

Tequila makes us too much money

[still vessel]

damn

[scarlet mortar]

also greythroat S2 has off rec 🚮

[still vessel]

rip shileds

[narrow pendant]

Good Welfare ops are like bonus pay
They dont like giving it

🥀

[shy gull]

Welp, guess I am off to get the Keooster

[jovial basalt]

Man I didn't even get kroos on welfare I rolled for her

[still vessel]

[jovial basalt]

And then tokens

[lofty stag]

[still vessel]

🥀

[lofty stag]

🥀

[scarlet mortar]

you can't roll for kroos2 though?

[maiden hound]

🥀

[scarlet mortar]

welfares are only obtainable through their events

[jovial basalt]

Am I getting her confused with a different op?

[lofty stag]

man

[scarlet mortar]

they aren't in the gacha pool ever

[jovial basalt]

Oops haha

[south spindle]

Invitation to Wine Side Story

how long have you been playing the game

[jovial basalt]

The hell am in thinking of then? Someone pissed me off one day

[jovial basalt]

At least since before eureka?

[narrow pendant]

Dw, i get pissed off in this hell daily

🥱

[scarlet mortar]

pov you're in AKO

[lofty stag]

Just drink more beer

[south spindle]

U-Official?

[jovial basalt]

Yup

[narrow pendant]

I dont habe any left

🥀

[lofty stag]

🥀

[still vessel]

🥀

[jovial basalt]

U official is too much typing on a phone

Bc I demand the dash

[lofty stag]

So give or take a year ago

[south spindle]

well Ines existed that was meta and has been meta

[jovial basalt]

2 or so I wanna say, I think I started right after conviction.

I only recently got ines, like in the past 4 months

[still vessel]

how new is contrail anyone remember

[jovial basalt]

Very

[south spindle]

6 weeks now

dropped with PV

[elder flume]

Lapp2

[still vessel]

oh yeahhh

i need to build her

she looks fun

[narrow pendant]

Shes decent for a 4* yeah

[scarlet mortar]

she's a pretty strong 4*

[elder flume]

Still dps checked for being 4star but owel

[scarlet mortar]

it's ok silvergun shilled her

[narrow pendant]

And u can make rosmi attack air targets so its funny

[south spindle]

unless her niche is utilized well she is just dps checked

[scarlet mortar]

that means she has better dph than average

[still vessel]

is jaye worth investing into.

[jovial basalt]

Should I shill her too?

[south spindle]

🤏

[maiden hound]

she's a good shill target

[jovial basalt]

Barely

[south spindle]

idk about shill for 4* in general theres other 4* to prio building

[south spindle]

think people like him better at E0 for base
but hes a pretty solid operator 4* wise, used in quite a bit of FSLO clears

[jovial basalt]

I do actually shill Jaye tho, but I recognize most people won't like him

[narrow pendant]

I mean, jaye is wodely known as good

But upgrading him worsens his base skill

[jovial basalt]

Wodely

[still vessel]

I dont have a choice since its either i save resources for months and dont build anyone or start building 4 stars cause all my 6 stars are either built or bad

[narrow pendant]

Perish

[jovial basalt]

It does?

[narrow pendant]

🫵

[south spindle]

just save blud

[narrow pendant]

It does indeed

[south spindle]

no point in having a brain and using jaye

when you can

unga bunga

[jovial basalt]

😂

[south spindle]

[still vessel]

oh yeah tragodia powercreep tex or what

[south spindle]

blud what

[jovial basalt]

Explain to me. I legitimately thought it was better

[still vessel]

I saw cat showcase

[south spindle]

are you saying

tragodia the ritualist?

who let this parrot out of the cage

[narrow pendant]

Caw caw

[south spindle]

oh you

[still vessel]

I saw showcase of kitty

[scarlet mortar]

the E1 talent is a debuff

[narrow pendant]

No not me

[south spindle]

oh kitty is a primal caster

[maiden hound]

well explain it will you

[south spindle]

tex is a vg
tex2 is a frd vas

do you mean virtuosa?

[narrow pendant]

🥀

Payday wildin

[south spindle]

yes stand alone he seems to powercreep virtuosa

[still vessel]

wtfart

i am not wilding

its hard to explain

[south spindle]

now whether there will be operators that capitalize better off NI or Necrosis is a matter of what HG releases

[maiden hound]

you lose out on order slots unless you're collecting it every hour or something

[scarlet mortar]

it also debuffs his first base skill

[south spindle]

average riic enthusiast does not need sleep, they need better rotations

[narrow pendant]

🥀

He doesnt powercreep anyone cuz noone does nervous

No thorns mod doesnt count

[still vessel]

doesnt he have a cat that attracts

and explodes causing nervous build up

[narrow pendant]

Yes?

[jovial basalt]

Oh I check the base a couple times a day so I don't need to worry about slots

[timid nacelle]

pretty sure he was still better on average than a lot of other teams

[narrow pendant]

And what does that habe with anything

[still vessel]

whats the cooldown on it?

[timid nacelle]

issue is

why jaye

[narrow pendant]

25s was it

[still vessel]

25s i think

ok yeah

[timid nacelle]

and not proviso sham teq

[scarlet mortar]

less total slots also means less efficiency from his first skill

[still vessel]

whats the dp cost

[jovial basalt]

Was there another reason why Jaye is bad in base?

[narrow pendant]

But what does the cat have with anything

[still vessel]

i cant find it on wiki

[narrow pendant]

No idea

But im guessing 5 or 10

[south spindle]

oh ur talking about S2

[still vessel]

its 5 dp

[south spindle]

i thought cat you meant Ms Christine the primal caster

[timid nacelle]

ye because u get teq for free and proviso exists
both better comps for tp in base
unless u missin shamare in which case u need like

[still vessel]

how much does nervous buildup do?

i forgor

[timid nacelle]

gnosis + karlan+jaye

[south spindle]

like 6k flat, but quicker cycle, 10s lock out / burst time

[maiden hound]

6k + 3 para

[jovial basalt]

I thought it evened out...

I'ma have to sit down and remath jaye

[still vessel]

ok so 6k on explosion with 25rdp and 5 dp cost

basically has mini texas

[timid nacelle]

it's like 3rd best team even on average

[south spindle]

that is schizo

[narrow pendant]

Thats not how this works bro

🥀

[timid nacelle]

but jaye is already mathed just hit #r-i-i-c

[still vessel]

🫠

[narrow pendant]

And texalt s2 is like 60k

🥀

[sick flare]

The EP-8 boss more or less one shots all my operators with his ability… I can tell this is going to be “fun”

[jovial basalt]

I like doing the math myself

[still vessel]

wtf

I thought it was like 10k

[timid nacelle]

ur funeral

[still vessel]

mb

[narrow pendant]

Sir

[still vessel]

im being schizo

[jovial basalt]

Not really

[scarlet mortar]

i mean if the other ops provide any +eff at all he reduces the order limit, thus reducing skill 1

[timid nacelle]

2 activations
each 30k ish on low res

that's sl7 btw

[elder flume]

4stars clear was cycling Jaye Gravel to keep boss in place until he dies

[timid nacelle]

m3 should be higher

[scarlet mortar]

new orders don't compensate since it's then one less order diff

[south spindle]

Tragodia S2 can be deployed anywhere?

[jovial basalt]

You know what, nvm. My base is just as weird as the rest of my playstyle

[timid nacelle]

it's global no

[still vessel]

I saw it on video yeah its global

[sick flare]

I mean that doesn’t sound like an awful idea

[still vessel]

no its not global

wtfart

am i schizo today

[vapid sluice]

I wanna ask what's the best strat to beat EP-8 easily/AFK? Since most of them suggest either to have Shu, Ulpi or Eyja Alter (Which I have none)

[narrow pendant]

Go sleep

Youre kinda mental today

[still vessel]

maybe i should

[elder flume]

This doesnt work for you?
https://youtu.be/xjs4JEHMR-Y?si=YfHMRPd4DLgamHg8

[lofty stag]

You should

[still vessel]

running on 3hrs of sleep isnt good

[jovial basalt]

You can come hang with me

[elder flume]

Wrong link

[narrow pendant]

Idk, i just kill him normally

[vapid sluice]

Oh... I haven't seen this, but it has Nymph... Which I also don't have...

[elder flume]

Its 4 squads you can choose from
Tho theyre going for fastest run

[timid nacelle]

oh yeah true damage still works against the boss

can just kal his ass

[elder flume]

Beating him up normally works either way

[vapid sluice]

Oh? Lemme check them then

[timid nacelle]

but shuin him is funnier unless there's a kill gate I am missin shouldn't be that far from max speed

[elder flume]

You just have to be wary of booze carrier and boss insta ele burst skill really

Dash isnt much of a problem

[vapid sluice]

I know... I just plan to get AFK so my lazy ass can still get the mats

[elder flume]

If you manual the first clear then the rest will be auto afk

[timid nacelle]

pretty sure lowstep for this is like 3 at most

[vapid sluice]

I check the comp for the 4 squad: 1 has Ulpi (don't have), 2 have Ray (sadly no), 3 has Ela & Nymph, and 4 have Shu and Ines

All of those, I wish I have them them but I got screwed on the gacha

[elder flume]

Idk i havent fought EP8 cuz waiting for S2M3 Texalt to 1 cycle cannon

[timid nacelle]

she 1 cycles on sl7 does she not

[elder flume]

Nein

[timid nacelle]

weird

[elder flume]

My S2M2 brings it to around 15% hp

[vapid sluice]

Should I put my roster here just to see what would work? Or stream it?

[elder flume]

Maybe less

[timid nacelle]

maybe cuz I used her on the defenders ig so it triggered first activation twice

[crude relic]

Anyone know how Many Second's we need to Drown The Boss?

[timid nacelle]

tho I gave up on killin cannons cuz it's not necessary

[timid nacelle]

about 15-20 normal game time

can only do it in p2

u can't do it in p1

to drown him u need shu or shifters

[crude relic]

I have Rope

[timid nacelle]

ye that's not enough

probably need to use 2 units to kill him instead

[vapid sluice]

@elder flume https://krooster.com/u/dmic007
My roster. Any alternatives from those squads?

[crude relic]

This is the Best I have

[timid nacelle]

ranged ele damage like virt can ignore the dr if u don't wanna think too much

[crude relic]

This + WISADEL

[timid nacelle]

guess U need amiya s3 for the boss

kill p1 with wis and use amiya s3 for the boss p2

[elder flume]

Salt deserts
cannot deploy our units, but enemy units can pass
through. Enemy units in this terrain:
① Movement speed is reduced to 70%
② Fall count increases by 1 point every 0.2s (the model will gradually sink, and will fall and die immediately when the fall count accumulates to 75 points)
※ When the enemy unit leaves the salt desert terrain, the accumulated fall count is cleared immediately

[south spindle]

By the way
Wisadel Logos Virt all want Mod Lvl 3

[crude relic]

P2 Boss Kills my Entire Team

I have 3 Guard and boss 1 shots them anyways

[timid nacelle]

bait him with a defender and a medic to shoot away fron ur ranged units

[analog mirage]

i need some help making a trust farm clear for ep 8 all the ones on yt use shu and i dont have her🥹

[crude relic]

Oke I'll try

[timid nacelle]

don't trust farm ep8

[elder flume]

Knight if you scroll up to my vid can you do any of the squads

[timid nacelle]

do ep7

[ionic goblet]

I found destroying the cannons before phase 2 helps

[vapid sluice]

Ah, thanks. I was hoping someone would give me suggestion on Upgrades as well

[timid nacelle]

we get better gs farm in mt

[analog mirage]

aketon? sure i need that too

[timid nacelle]

the clear also take me 30s there

so waitin for MT sounds better

[analog mirage]

mt is what event again

[timid nacelle]

exu2

[south spindle]

Also Logos S3M3
E2 + Masteries on Cantabile since she seems like one of your best VG

[vapid sluice]

Masteries on which skill?

[analog mirage]

hmm aight

[timid nacelle]

s2 is the one I usually use

s1 has crazy aspd scale

[south spindle]

S2 for most cases
S1 later when you understand the power of agents

[elder flume]

3 op n the rest r trust or blocker
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1AtqjYJEVe/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[south spindle]

If you play IS Angelina has a mod too and it’s pretty potent, read mod levels 1 and 3 to see why

[maiden hound]

i'm floating it

[timid nacelle]

angelina mod when I play is3

[vapid sluice]

So... Wisadel, Surtr and Texalt is the 3 OP right?

[maiden hound]

skillfully do izumik push

[elder flume]

ye

[vapid sluice]

Nice... I'll try that later on

[timid nacelle]

I refuse to do izumik after d10

[south spindle]

izumik vs Ray S1
rain taught me new tech today

[timid nacelle]

does the push force change at m3 ?

[south spindle]

Yes becomes “significant

[timid nacelle]

hmmm

[south spindle]

how broken is Ray

[timid nacelle]

-2 weight relics

[south spindle]

Lemuen could never

[timid nacelle]

about to get her m9 if this is true

already have ray s2m3 for some cursed shit

[south spindle]

S2 is suspicious but shore

[timid nacelle]

ye u don't wanna know

[south spindle]

She deserves the red triangle

🔺

[timid nacelle]

that she does

wish I had pots tho

[elder flume]

problem with Ray S1M3 is it has too much multiplier

4.5x and adding another 15% from summon

[south spindle]

Lmao killing things

[elder flume]

everything dies before shifting

[south spindle]

🥀

How broken is Ray

[elder flume]

same issue with Ash S3M3

[south spindle]

It should do the damage after push

And damage on the way too

[timid nacelle]

ash s3m3 to push izumik

[south spindle]

Oops recreating weedy

[timid nacelle]

broken tech

wait it needs white shoes

[elder flume]

before Enforcer existed Ash was the goto to help Feater

[south spindle]

Don’t have feater

Might grab on selector hm

[elder flume]

if anyone wants to try this low insanity
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1piiqY6EeQ/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[maiden hound]

how do i drown anatasio in ep8 with shu

[dapper hedge]

Kill him p1 on left side with shu

Dragged him back when he tp and he gonna walk to the sand

[maiden hound]

hmm

[elder flume]

Ling
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hRidYgEZ5/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

Wis
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1YjiqYWEhV/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.13

Lapp
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1fFiZYRECr/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.11

3stars
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1uiioYGEZH/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

should be enough options

[glass monolith]

My auto works and it better be that way for next 2 weeks

[elder flume]

If boss is not at 5,7 teleport boss to 5,7
Quite interesting AK uses Y, X isntead of X, Y

[ionic goblet]

lmao, you pushed the boss into the sand

[glass monolith]

Because my "Kill bitch fairly" auto desynced by 0.5 seconds and he teleports ahead of blockers

[elder flume]

Using Ulpi to block instead of Noir

[glass monolith]

If it works it works

Still faster than my ZT autos

[ionic goblet]

Yeah, I had trouble getting an auto working

It's still not 100% consistent, but it is better than before

[glass monolith]

Btw where apology lunacy gems sanity for yesterday?

YOSTAR WTF? "Error uploading your auto clear error 502" and boot to login screen instead even a single retry attempt

[ionic goblet]

RIP

[earnest lark]

What's the strat for the new SSS boss?

I bring the whole meta and he's not dead wth

[steel prairie]

wait what do we even farm in the event ???

[smoky halo]

who was ur main dps

and what stacks did u feed them

[elder flume]

Recommendation: Farm Grindstone since that stage is the efficient and the mat is high demand, but if you have a lot, you can farm Sugar Pack or Aketon, both materials are quite needed, though farming them normally isn't as hard as grinding for grindstones.
You MUST farm event stages for shop currency. It is worth farming any event stage if you have not cleared the limited event store.
Comparison against efficient permanent stages for main drop, calculations by @momo.moe and @wryschtraevyel
Note: efficiency calculations included the event currency in the form of the sanity value of the infinite LMD

[terse sierra]

just be aware that the boss makes autos ultra mega unstable

if you aren't careful

[steel prairie]

thats the thing....... I cant auto it

WTF IS THIS BOSS ?

how the hell your suppose to farm the grindstone if its the fukin boss ???

a boss that can literally snipe you across the map

[glass monolith]

Sir calm down you coping, boss can only commit attrocity against units who block him or within like 2.5 tiles

[jovial nest]

Now imagine autoing EoE

[glass monolith]

FUCK YOU

[steel prairie]

so basically you have to snipe ??

[jovial nest]

Its called redep

Let him waste nukes on gravel

[steel prairie]

is there even fast redeploy for ranged characters ???

[jovial nest]

Wtf are you talking about?

[glass monolith]

Feed gravel to him dammit

[steel prairie]

problem is that gun spam is a whopping 8 tiles.......

it kills past gravel

[jovial nest]

Dude......let him kill her then

[steel prairie]

are we even talking about the same thing ??? that gun spam is a AOE attack

[glass monolith]

He can't spam anyone else if gravel was only one in range and if you smart enough to not place Gravel adjusted to anything else or 8 tiles AoE reach them too

[jovial nest]

It fucking has a duration

Its not ammo based

[steel prairie]

thats the thing its a whopping 8 tiles...... that covers a lot of the map

[steel prairie]

did I even mention ammo ???

[jovial nest]

Its a circle

[glass monolith]

[jovial nest]

Wtf is this 8 tiles shit

[glass monolith]

Dude it is "8 tiles around operator", 3x3 box with center on whoever he attacks

[jovial nest]

Ive fought bosses with better range

[glass monolith]

10 tiles range Free in CC6 or was it 7?

[jovial nest]

CC7 is Dusk map with Free. CC6 is OD desert winds

[steel prairie]

huh ???

then what is it thats 8 tiles around a op ???

[jovial nest]

Have you seen the purple circle when he does Irene S3?

Thats his range

[steel prairie]

the purple fire ???

that surrounds him ?

[jovial nest]

Yes

[steel prairie]

yeah

[jovial nest]

No the aura means he has S3

[steel prairie]

huh ???

[smoky halo]

how tf do i make a stable ep-8 clear

🥹

[jovial nest]

The circle appears when he uses S3

[smoky halo]

@terse sierra hi can u go to bili and find stable ep 8 for me

🥹

preferably fast too

[terse sierra]

lol I tried them and couldn't get them to work
stable: 稳定
ep-8

I recall because I didn't have shu moduled

[smoky halo]

😭 das krazy imagine needing to mod shu for a stage

ok thanks

[terse sierra]

it google translates to speed brush

the trust farms that are fast

[smoky halo]

bruh i dont have any of the afk laneholders raised

😂

[glass monolith]

(Yeets half of map into hole with S1 Gladiia)

[smoky halo]

are the canons phys

or arts

(i havent read)

:joyplush:

[glass monolith]

Man i can't wait for EX stage to spam 🦭 and cannon-rabbits and trash summoners all over the place on boss stage (I don't know what it has, but i assume it will be horrible)

[earnest lark]

Idk
Wisadel, Logos, Virtuosa, Mylnar etc
You name it

[smoky halo]

virtuosa is not meta for SSS

SSS enemies have way more hp since u can stack buffs on ur ops

virtuosa doesnt increase her dmg if u buff her

wisadel and logos with vg/caster stacks
mlynar with guard/vg stacks work

[jovial nest]

Imagine CM has low cooldown for Irene S3

[smoky halo]

should be fine

[earnest lark]

https://tenor.com/view/scarseven-gif-715672438376920592

Do you know about the boss gimmic?

[royal rose]

Anastacio makes effing Eikthyrnyr and Fremont look like a well-designed boss

[royal rose]

He spazzes out and kills your team

5)-5md thet gimmick

[earnest lark]

No, SSS boss is not dealing high damage. But that boss is so tanky wth

[royal rose]

I will commission gore of this filthy fishtwink

I will have him drawn getting eaten alive by Seaborn

[steel prairie]

is there anyway to tell when he is gonna fire his guns ??? because even with the flame down he can still spam the guns

[royal rose]

That’s the thing; you don’t

[steel prairie]

also I was even out of his 3X3 and he STILL FIRED

[royal rose]

He spazzes out and shits all over your team

[steel prairie]

like I Was 4 tiles away and he still fires and kills my team

[steel prairie]

exactly... his range is not 3X3 tiles

literally was 4 tiles away and HE STILL FIRED

[royal rose]

You need operator Godbreaker and their skill Super Slam Dance

[steel prairie]

fukin bastard lied to me... his tile was NOT 3X3

[smoky halo]

which boss are you facing

theres 2 SSS towers

[royal rose]

Where they just suck up all the enemies in the map with a vortex and hurl them at the boss dealing 10000% their true damage

[earnest lark]

The robot one

[steel prairie]

fukin bastard lied to me about his range... his gun spam is NOT 3X3

was a clean 4 tiles away and he still fired

BS

[earnest lark]

His gimmick is so simple
Absorb physical and arts damage
But yet wisadel, mylnar and virtuosa can't even do much damage wth

[crystal meteor]

block him while dealing damage

[steel prairie]

how many liars are there in this channel ???

bro told me his range was 3X3... THEN PROCEEDS TO SHOOT FURTHER THAN IT

[smoky halo]

the new one ya?

[glass monolith]

Fucking hell he pick someone in 2.5 range around him, and damage is done around 3x3 of who he picked, and he will pick at random in 2.5 range so if multiple targets you know what

[earnest lark]

Yeah

[glass monolith]

Which has nothing to do with your "But he attack from 8 tiles away" so fuck you and fuck explaining this fucking boss

[steel prairie]

WTF ??? that makes even more no sense... my support Wis was 4 tiles away... the thorns 3 tiles... AND HE STILL SHOT HER

[smoky halo]

its just a shield

just do more dmg

[steel prairie]

everything was super far away and he stil SHOT

[smoky halo]

what stacks did u use for wisadel/logos/mlynar?

[steel prairie]

literally my Wis was 4 tiles away... thorns also 4 or 3 tiles away.. he still shot

[earnest lark]

Well, do you consider wisadel summon?
He also can attack wisadel summon and kill her yk

[smoky halo]

4 tiles as in real distance?

did u apply the pythagorean formula

🚬

[earnest lark]

That just happened in my previous run

[steel prairie]

ik that... but her summons were also further than 3 tiles

literally placed the max out of range his can

[terse sierra]

you need to undeploy the summons

[steel prairie]

so its not 2.5 tiles then ???

or it rounds up ???

[scarlet mortar]

how are you counting the tiles

actually ykw just take a screenshot

[steel prairie]

hold on I will was grinding aketon

that was super BS

[earnest lark]

https://tenor.com/view/scarseven-gif-715672438376920592

Wow, fascinating

[smoky halo]

i mean if u stack them up properly

its not an issue

so im asking which stacks did u feed wisadel/logos/mlynar

[glass monolith]

Just look at how small this bruh range is he don't even reach Texas from that AFK spot

[limpid ore]

there is actual hole in the right side, huh
i didnt notice it

one hole that you can use to instantly kill the boss

[glass monolith]

Except boss is weight 7 and after dungeon collab i know that set up to "just hole boss" can be fucked up

[earnest lark]

Why don't y'all just drown him in the sand with Shu S3?

https://tenor.com/view/scarseven-gif-715672438376920592

[glass monolith]

Shuless behaviour

[elder flume]

1. Have Shu
2. Have dps to kill left side

Actually does boss tele back to 5,7 if there in front of bluebox

Will prob try later

[earnest lark]

https://tenor.com/view/scarseven-gif-715672438376920592

I see

[glass monolith]

I believe he don't if he reached that waypoint, like he didn't TP back in my Quartz behaviour clear #strategy message

[elder flume]

Humu

Sad

[steel prairie]

ok yeah Im not farming this shit

holy shit Im literally losing my mind

[smoky halo]

🚬

[exotic sky]

Yeah i'm not clearing stage 8 anytime soon. No Shu no Wis. I guess i'll farm stage 6 and 7 for mats and that'll be it for this event lmao

[steel prairie]

I did clear it but its not stable

it was a clutch

no way in hell Im farming it

clearing it is ez...... auto farming it is another story

the sand slugs already made me lose my mind

[limpid ore]

what slug? they are all fish-adjacent

[glass monolith]

Honestly understandable, i wouldn't want to be anywhere near those farm stages if it was my early months of AK

I assume he measn salt 🦭

[limpid ore]

flyfin and sandfin are fishes

[craggy oriole]

Ok we got the flying fish and the walrus looking dude

[steel prairie]

oh cause they look like slugs LMAO

literally the thing called "slugs" look like slimes and those sand thingys look like actual slugs

[steel prairie]

salt seal ???

well I dont see any gigantic eyes lol

wtf is HG naming ??? makes a slime and calls it a "slugs" and makes an actual slugs and calls it a fish or smth

[limpid ore]

slug deez nuts

[steel prairie]

oh yeah and still proceeds to call spiders "slugs"

oh its called saltfin shaker....... yet proceeds to make it like a REAL SLUG

[scarlet mortar]

slugs when salt:

[limpid ore]

mutated originium slugs grow legs because mutation

[steel prairie]

well... atleast....... you can change the name right ??????

but honestly HG or RI have like the weridest naming conventions

[limpid ore]

this isnt even close to look like slug

[steel prairie]

but its white and looks long

and chubby

[scarlet mortar]

it's not a "naming convention" matter when terrans can just have different animals

who gaf

[steel prairie]

I mean now that upon closer look I can see its more like a Wurlus or smth

[steel prairie]

ik but its just confusing sometimes

imma just wait and see if I can get Ray tomorrow

and anyhting else thats good within it

[limpid ore]

charging slug

ra players like them

[narrow pendant]

Theres no way youre gonna pull standard

[limpid ore]

ray banner is bait, to make you buy her skin

[glass monolith]

Honestly i don't even know how those enemies named, but it looks like 🦭 for me. Or Tusk or whatever my knowledge at biology limited at counting limbs

[steel prairie]

atleast I get to own a 6th star sniper for once

WHICH I NEED

I need a sniper that can hit hard

[narrow pendant]

Sure, pot3 lee be upon thee

[steel prairie]

btw how is Lee ???

what does he even do ?

[narrow pendant]

Shit

[final obsidian]

bottom 10 unit

[steel prairie]

bruh

I literally need Ray... need a sniper with the range of GT and hits hard as Shwarz

perfect

[narrow pendant]

🥀

[steel prairie]

why tf Shwarz need to sacrifice her range for fuk sake

[narrow pendant]

Year1 things

Or 2, forgot

[steel prairie]

Ray is also decent since I can also get rid of these pesky thicc drones (arty drones, freeze drones, etc)

also good stopgap until I can get Wis myself

[narrow pendant]

So standard puller and a sparker?
Tragedy

[steel prairie]

uhhh whats sparker ???

also I havent pulled the standard since Lin

[vocal leaf]

don’t spark wisadel, let her die

[narrow pendant]

:clueless:

[steel prairie]

ayo ?

[vocal leaf]

no thorns alt i’m so sad , playing with og thorns to feel better

[steel prairie]

of course someone with a meaty tank

[narrow pendant]

[limpid ore]

italian texas sounds very good

[vocal leaf]

ulpi is ideal, he can block him again when boss runs away

i risked my yu pulls for thorns, got no thorns and probably won’t get yu either

[narrow pendant]

Make him sink into the sand🥀

[glass monolith]

That's why the made that shit run away twice

[narrow pendant]

Deserved for being a thorns puller

🥀

Sorry

[vocal leaf]

i just wanted more men

[smoky halo]

wtf

[limpid ore]

smh, just get him in 10 pulls plus tecno

[glass monolith]

160 for 1 techo and 1 thorn

At least offbanner gifted Swire and Door-orthy

And i don't have specialist chips for 3 specialist idiots

[vocal leaf]

i got a hoederer dupe with pity

[limpid ore]

chips pack or e2 tickets pack

[narrow pendant]

At least it was a man

[glass monolith]

8 e1 chips off and 9 e2 chips off to e2 all 3

[sly drift]

Bro what

Condolence

[glass monolith]

I just don't care for meta bullshit if you cry over spilled pulls

[sly drift]

Either meta or not 160 pulls for one rate up in standard banner is absolute disaster bruh

I know exactly how it feels though

[smoky halo]

hoe dupe good

gib

[glass monolith]

111 pull for 1 Fia, 123 pull for 1 Typhon, 160 pull for 1 Thorn. Why i can't have more of Stainless in 1 and Fartooth in 2

Surely my Ente luck will be good. Right?

[royal rose]

Why are you guys pulling for those units?

Thornter isn’t even good in IS

[glass monolith]

Because i want to

I have Wisadel, Mlynar, other meta trash so you can't "But it is not meta" me

[smoky halo]

thorn is meta

in base

🤫

[scarlet mortar]

in base

🤫

[vocal leaf]

i actually wanted thorns for base bryo team needs that upgrade

same for monster, the only reason for me to pull is that she powercreep kalsit in base

[prisma ledge]

How to deal with EP-8 Anastasia without using Shu? Dont want to use support unit since no auto-deploy. I might have to figure it out somehow.

[full terrace]

Depends on what units you have

[prisma ledge]

Wait nvm

I found a solution

Ulpipi and Gladiaa

Time to test

(This better work, I hope)

[vocal leaf]

who is anastasia?

[prisma ledge]

The gunslinger boss

In the new event

[vocal leaf]

oh you def not need shu, just block him multiple times

[sly drift]

Viviana can only proc burn twice on boss in one cycle

I wonder if it can go three times with some buff

[vapid sluice]

Okay, I see Garum Gourmet and Rum Gourmet on the Medal List, I know Garum Goumet... Which one's the Rum Gourmet?

I didn't see them anywhere on the Normal Stage list... from 1 to 8

[loud kiln]

https://youtu.be/mE0r7NU3axA

[prisma ledge]

Aight ty, I got it now yay

[keen flower]

That's cool, I didn't know you could use both versions of Thorns...

[narrow pendant]

no reason why u couldnt

[prisma ledge]

Wasnt that always possible? I used Eyja and Eyjaberry before

[narrow pendant]

It wasnt always, no

But its been good 2+ years since it was changed

[prisma ledge]

Oh, when was it not possible

Ohhhhh

Well Im glad they changed it

[keen flower]

I thought that because it was the same name as the character, I could only use 1 version of it...

[prisma ledge]

Makes sense

[sly drift]

Back then you can't use both of them (Original and Alter together)

Until Texas alter iirc

[vapid sluice]

Either Texas Alter, or Gavial Alter

[glass monolith]

Give me back free skin vouchers and alter missions (compensation for can use only one - refund of some material and free redeem of 15/18 skin if you own skin of original when alter releases)

[dapper hedge]

Rum is the elite version.
https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Rum_Gourmet

[glass monolith]

Totally Texas alter change

[vapid sluice]

Yeah, I was forgotting which one that put the change in

[vapid sluice]

Oh.. it's in EX Stage... OK, thanks

[keen flower]

Let's create a petition and send it to them🔥

[sly drift]

Difference is only ifrit presence

Anyway new Vivi is a beast as long as enemy isnt 70 res or something

[smoky halo]

art dmg unit good when the enemy isnt high res 🤯

[narrow pendant]

If only s3 give her mkre block or hitting more mobs at once

🥀

[smoky halo]

more block is bad

[full terrace]

EP-8 Low-End Clear

[cinder pike]

ok, anything with wisadel is low end

jk

[glass monolith]

1 block has advantage of not blocking second dog shit elite with 50% your hp DPS

[cinder pike]

I haven't even done ep-8 yet

[rapid junco]

Arts dmg when 90% res

[sly drift]

True. Her talent obviously telling you she is intended to be 1v1 blocking duel

[glass monolith]

Wisadel when 27k def (Thanks CCb3)

[rapid junco]

No bro
Ccb not real

[sly drift]

Means that it's ceobe time

Perhaps HG will eventually make enemy Res 325% to deny ceobe sweep

[smoky halo]

res is "capped" at 100

you can have res higher than 100 but the op will treat it as 100 when doing dmg calcs

res being higher than 100 just fucks over res shred

if they want to fuck over ceobe they can just give the enemy 90% dmg reduction instead of high def/res

or make it 99% or some shit

idfk

or give a massive hp pool

[glass monolith]

Oh god Degen event should be on rerun soon... Poor players

[smoky halo]

only the players who dont read

:joyplush:

[glass monolith]

Or players who can't time shit and will trigger boss gate at same time with boss skill

(ME)

[brisk surge]

waow

minus shit player?

[glass monolith]

Anyway I brought it up because... I will enjoy Myon reaction

[brisk surge]

like

cc?

[sly drift]

Here someone told me we already have some that go over 100% res.
I'm surprised too ngl

[limpid ore]

oh yeah, i remember there is enemy with like 120 res

just to render RES shred worse

[glass monolith]

As if we need to use true damage mechanic idk

[brisk surge]

true damage mechanic when theres like

barely any ops with true damage

[narrow pendant]

Hi max

[limpid ore]

elemental damage mechanic

[narrow pendant]

[brisk surge]

hi

[scarlet mortar]

true damage mechanic when i shrimply give enemies 4000% hp

[brisk surge]

so real

[limpid ore]

high hp enemies when i shove them to hole

[brisk surge]

can we just bring back POO modifier

1000% hp

[sly drift]

Nothing fuck you harder than +HP% risk anyway

Need operator skill damage based on enemy max HP

[next wigeon]

No no

-atk% is worse

[brisk surge]

semantics arguing

[next wigeon]

[brisk surge]

-attack is basically + effective hp

shut up astrel

[scarlet mortar]

eh generally speaking -atk% is bad

but ceobe exists

[smoky halo]

no its not

[scarlet mortar]

if ops scale off of enemy stats they escape the -atk% tar pit

[smoky halo]

kid named phys dmg formula

🚬

or ceobe

[brisk surge]

🥱 who even uses phys

get real

[smoky halo]

u

[scarlet mortar]

ok wis user

[smoky halo]

i saw u using ros

ur a fraud

[brisk surge]

🥀

true

[smoky halo]

now all we need is an op that deals with enemy max hp%

[brisk surge]

but is5 is slop anyways

[smoky halo]

🤫

[brisk surge]

we dont need blade of the ruined king bro shut up

:realmad:

[smoky halo]

bork is pretty good

🤫

we should give exu nonalt mod delta which is just bork

[limpid ore]

we need operator that deals damage that scale on their own max hp