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how do u got so much money
Any tips for the core difficulty? They aren't kidding when they say it's harder than the previous level cause at this point it's RNG based all over again.
pick a strat
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so new discovery that you can only have 2 of the same Model
theres no third
unless i got hit with really bad rng
Thx, will do
eh Chen is 1k%
320% Atk scale, where did you get 1000% from?
And single target too
I'd take Asca anytime
Ah thats S2
I'd still take Asca S1 anytime
Instead of Chen S2, you'd make a better showcase with Degen S3
i dont have her
She cant be borrowed for non default?
Hmm
ok still cant follow the ling + logos guide for h14-3
prob my logos are 30 level and 5 potential behind
needs more dps ๐
He said 30 level behind. The video had Lv90, so I assume his Logos is at Lv60 and modded
Could be RNG where he double hits
But anyway, stacking multiple dps units should solve the problem
yeah most likely it
My H14-3 clear is pretty lame coz I got it on my first blind attempt
So its full of those broken meta ops
From my Standard squad
aint no wae 
anyways imma eep
gotta try tomorrow
btw h14-4 is just punch theresa with dps (again)
right?
Woman abuse 
Yes more or less 14-21. This is old #strategy message but it's more or less like that
canonically she got wis s3-ed ๐คฃ
Average sarkaz divorce procedure 
alr thx
Canonically she got Amiya-ed ๐
what operators should i bring?
Ascalon if you have her
Any AoE dps should help
Ascalon is best coz she also applies -85% Mov Speed Reduction to all enemies she hit
The Tier 6 Chen is also pretty good since she applies -50ish% Mov Speed Reduction
And AoE
ok thankss
Idk if I should sent #help or here
Are there any strat or tips for the core protocol (max LV) event?
Such as what buff at beginning before start the game against which enemies
What recommended ops to use in 2 free slots each tier?
What type of equipment priority?
What priority ops to choose during battle?
Any link guide or tips to share for brain dead
And etc
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Thank you, I'll read in a bit
Is this strat usable for all types of enemies & maps?
Yes, there is no need to worry about that
Round 12 bosses rarely spawn, and even if they do, they are still pretty weak
It is recommended to not put any free slots in op selection? (free 2 slots each tier)
To reduce rng?
On tier VI (6)?
Ascalon which skill and mod? (Just confirm)
T5
If you have Wisadel Logos you can put them at Tier 6, but honestly T6 units are not that used
S2 and mod
Ascalon S2 ofcourse
Round 12ish you dont really need T6 units
Coz bosses havent really spawn yet
And even if they do, they are pretty weak
i just lost with enemies having 1 hp seal left
Somehow I suffered at foundation, that's why I'm scared of core lol

I did a full simulation, you can watch that for reference
It's a leakless run, with Life Points intact
So even if you mess up and leak a few thats fine
Is that strat you mentioned, did you use ascalon?
If no, where I should put her (behind who/where) or replace her with who?

Watch the videos in the link I sent you, there is part 1-2-3-4 for that, use them as reference on how to position your units
Also different map needs different positioning
Best of luck there
@tidal sedge how many Quilons have you beaten? ๐
I'm saving that Spearhead for my last Quilon run after raising Rosmontis and Qiubai
Also I need to fill up my Ingots bank again 
Borrowed too much money
what the strat to get infinite dupes
help where to put wisadel
facing where?
right in the middle right
yeah
if u have the thing that let's u put ranged ops on Melee tiles
just put her infront of blue box
but startin sp is ideal for the position I suggested at the start
which difficulty is this
2
succeeded thank you o much i thought it was over
gj buddy 
no refresh ?
nope
regular army is tough
lets hope at least the leaks doesnt kill me
don't haste in position
there's like
3 assassins
everything else dies to wis
next time even on lamp
play 1 or 2 fights each floor
otherwise u die to not havin enough ops
later diffs Wis alone can't actually kill everything
just avoid kaz falls and clear the crowd in f2
okay i survived the assasins leaked but they always do anyway
yeah u need invis reveal
or enough bodies to block
at least u don't get hard punishment for leakin in is-5
how doable is witch curse alliance wisadel? i tried it before but my wisadel died cause damage reflect
yeah nope not a good idea
u need to activate all the devices
before she can start killin
what pick for this i keep forgetting what does what
i got an antique coing that gives you 10 ingots and 1 hope upon obtaining
i can probably trade that
try to exchange uh things that r high rarity that aren't useful to u
the ones that give u stuff immediately r usually not worth that much
If someone even has problem with manfred on chapter 10 and has Kalsit i trink that this strategy could be ok
Kirin yato though was necessary to help monster defeat faster the bloodborn chain casters, since they can kill monster.
And also it is for the best at this strategy here to hold manfred with a 1 block operator to so the cannon can keep locked on monster
And also manfred is not immune to stun, is even on Phase 2
Crownslayer had a feast today
is this like a challenge clear
Nah i just put everyone good i had and keep trying until it worked
Idk how many times i failed miserably

I trink that my brain became bigger now tho
I played since release with occasional 1-2 month breaks
h12-4 is tougher than most other h stages

like even 13 and 14
the amount of sweat silvergun goes through for that type of shit 
Yes but abusing fact that dev didn't put no deploy tile there so people can move ban tile away and barricade it while avoiding "No you can't block path with barricade" 
which one?
Is your team overwhelmengly melees?
i picked def cause i have 0 melee dps
What melee are even good in IS5? All the ops I see get talked about are ranged 
Necrosis fields are giga cringe for melee
this was fun 
Iโve been doing IS5 mostly blind and still donโt know what to do with 6* guard or spec picks
I need to raise my Rosmo asap
6 star guard is hoe /ulpenits
Guards I usually go with Ulpi and Mlynar, cant go wrong with them
Spec is way too precious
Iโve been picking Silverash
For me it's Tin Man ~> Asca ~> Ela ~> Texas
Ela and Texas are luxury for me, if I got them good, if no then its fine
Tin Man and Asca are mandatory for me
i think the fragile is kinda nice
There are some stages where I need Asca
i dont draft asca as much 
Tin man is that good?
Thoughts Inventory yeah he is kind of a must
For Shrivels farm mostly but sometimes I use his healing on Wis's Revenant Shadows
Like in Chaos, I use him for that
what niche does mostima fill? got her from recruitment
Yeah
I only attempt that if I got Eyjaberry
Otherwise I skip
Too much healing pressure without her
Itโs tolerable with Ptilo, otherwise I skip
slow/stall, generally crept by other in today's standards
Does Tin man need masteries too?
Depends if you use him in combat or not
If you are just using him for Thoughts Inventory then you only need E2 for the Talent

whats the general strat for core protocol ?
@brisk surge Regular Army you requested, this is not Emergency but this should give you an idea
I'll record it if I get an Emergency one
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i just beat it today
but its triple flinger
will watch it since it was d10 when i beat it

Told you it's easy
you think hoe would be fine here too
For?
It's an F5 node. You usually have King set or at least some Initial SP Relics
hoe can stunlock w
Or Deathmatch book
Should work if she doesnt die from ufo
I choose Ulpi mainly because he doesnt die from ufo
Yah
Also for Ulpi. In case he doesnt get to activate his skill right away and ate a Necrosis, he still does good amount of damage on the car
Possibly killing it
Thats why I chose to helidrop him
is this a good base layour for new player?
I think those #r-i-i-c guys are better at base-ing. Facility count matches this 2-5-2 meta. RIP energy used on office/reception etc
Layout yes, but right side bad
Office should be as low as possible, reception too but that levelled up is way better than office
cool
for new player starting out look at 351 to 252 guide in pin in #r-i-i-c completed 252 is ultimate goal but beginner 351 gives you more production when starting out
Sir he has office 3 reception 3, something tells me 351 off chart 
idk, he ask for new player, I doubt new player has lvl5 CC already, probably took that pic from somewhere(theres a number 5 in the bottom left corner) and wants to confirm if its ok
fair enough
It's not optimal but the layout is good. If by "good" you mean optimal 252, you already suffered a permanent account damage coz you raised Reception Room and Office.
Optimal 252 should look like this
Lv2 Trading Post is for Proviso, and Lv3 one for Shamare/Tequila/Bibeak
in terms of being a hybrid between a dps/tank... which Ops is the most durable surival dps ???
Ulpianus is the most durable
yes this is screenshot from a video, i am currently at CC 4 and havent upgraded right side yet aside for reception 2 and workshop 3
oh wait he is a survival dps ??? no offense but he looks too skinny to be a survival dps LMAO
but of course its the whale
30% DR if Gladiia, heals when hit buffed by healing efficiency. 
are all abyss hunters built like tanks of smth ???
Not really. Just very many regeneration and damage reduction when together
Usually overkills "normal" content. I used AH team to H12-4 and it was something. #strategy message
oh cause I also wonder if thats lore accurate too... kind of like a group of tanks taking on seaborns
I doubt lore works like that
They are hunters. Not face tank until it expire first.
well wouldnt having some tank attribute help them being a hunter ???
who are the two easiest opponents
Arguably pathfinders n convicts
Anything that has ranged will be annoying to deal with
Kazimierz and Pathfinders have difficult bosses
I run SilverAsh squad, garbage early ops dont matter to me ๐
There is a reason I always recommend people to do the SilverAsh squad, because even if you got bad RNG with the ops (refreshes) you still, at the very least, got Matterhorn for blocking, Pramanix for debuffing, and Kjera/Gnosis for dps. Bad RNG is not the end of the world.
ill do a non core run to try to get karlan comp
oh god yeah kazeimierz boss sucks
especially on the default 3 lane map
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the gold statue of respecting faction count toward unlocking the commander
the drone isn't even problem my shit gets sniped lmao
Lee moment 
people do entry for easy commader
eh mostly playing this for medals
need to still kill more enemies too
Man screw the knight club
#strategy message can someone explain this to me? do i need to get both the karlan trade model and karlan trade file for this to work? also how am i supposed to get the model if im stuck at teir 3
Then you play it off as if normal Kal AH run
so i do need both?
Just R3 Karlan Model is necessary for infinite
Karlan File can be gotten on any rounds
Its rng but theres a reason i put a do not attempt disclaimer on it
well im trying to test if mostima passive stacks, im just trying to figure out how this works, do i get the model from the selection of buffs every few rounds?
gotcha
Think he means 25% slow to range
alr so i got the trade model round 3, do i put it on anybody?
put it on better operator
as in individual ops no copies?
Yes
You only put it on someone that has a dupe of them in store when you have both Karlan items
So that store op becomes 0 cost
My latest run got the infinite on R9 so if you went to R6 with no Karlan File its fine
Just keep buying unique ops
so from this point on what should i be doing? continue buying unique ops or start looking for copies
Buy unique
If theres a dupe for you then put Karlan on them to buy then switch > sell
wouldnt the refreshes kill it?
Its why you fill the bench with unique ops so the chance of dupes on the next refresh is high
but doesnt the model and trade only apply to one op per set?
When you buy a dupe you can switch the one with items to this dupe
Sell the one with items
The items come back
If you cant refresh anymore then just go next round
Doesnt need to infinite that round
Generally having 6 gold is good before you buy another unique ops
Means you go to 4 and have 2 refresh chances to profit
Hey, any recommended these 4 slots ops in Stronghold?
Use supports
The 3 you have are decent
If getting T6 is too hard can bring them to T5
I prefer Saria S3 Hoshi S3
4th slot I tried Eyja medic and Nightingale but still got nuked by Candle mages
Which skill and module did they used for Skadi again?,
Ulpi probably S3? S2 was too slow.
Skadi isnt really used
Its mostly Ulpi Gladi Andreana carrying as usual
Skadi goes S2 if you use her with redeploy module
Ulpi both skills are used
If S2 then you need initial sp item
S3 means you can all in damage but those are T5 T6 items
Mm, can you recommend my 4th slot?
Show ops
I have most of them. Except some limiteds. You can recommend me any.
Ascalon Narantuya Lappland Lee Texas Typhoon Ifrit Shu
You can spawncamp the candle knight 
They will do 3-4 basic attack before casting her nuke
Plenty of time, even a single la pluma or kaze is enough.
@scarlet fulcrum ive beaten JT8-3 now, took a lot of time
Congratulations ๐ gj
Can you win core difficulty easily without this trick? I feel like I keep getting brick without any good unit when I play core.
uh if you read this you will know why i dont recommend my strat to people #strategy message
arf
i failed again
on the final core logos' skill dont pump enough dps to the core and his skill ended earlier than intended
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Who is the boss on that round?
could use gg but its quite risky as the fidget spinner are nearby
lv1 Kindling Revenant
wow i should write something to immortalize myself
using logos + ling combo but my logos are 30lv + 5pot behind
Yea he is not upgraded so
if you could cover other squads please do
No hool squad yet? travesty
Just draft more dps to compensate
there are talks about it but never as detailed as ones i listed
i did just that but theres literally no room there
Ah yeah managing deployment slot also ur job. But ling smh
The problem with hool is ive never really managed to make it consistent
I bank off of andreana or fucking die
Let me try cooking a bit
We are having 2 different events running together or sth?

Ill be cooking in vc if anyone wants to watch
the interesting part about stronghold only that tbh
I didn't know you could use Mlynar in that RNG game mode....
oh youre running reserve ops
also select different skill...
ye you wana borrow supports to have more faction ops
6 as a requirement is a bit absurd but owel

Noob did write on reserve ops
albeit having Reedic as an extra
the more rounds you do the higher your fail rate goes
_ Not sure if itโs okay to ask a broad question like this, let me know if not. _
Any advice on an AFK (or near AFK) setup for Cityscape 66 Anni with my roster: https://www.krooster.com/u/zurajanai
I would say look up an ascalon or wis solo anni run but you dont have either
you can just do cityways once and afk other stages
Thanks for the suggestion, Iโll try this out. What do you mean โif she can live above the holeโ? And where would you put Ethan?
Yeah I guess Iโll try the suggestion below a couple times and if I canโt get it to work, Iโll just go back to Lungmen downtown.
that hole tile bottom right red zone
Ethan under Saria
Thanks for your strat
@full terrace
It's really solid and doable
Funny thing I got all medic at the start of game
Ho'olheyak Squad (Stronghold Protocol)
This works regardless of equipment, but you might have to borrow some ops though.
Yes, the Special Treatment strategy supplement stacks wonderfully with this squad.
No, do not sell ops to rush barge. You get 6-stars 1 round early, but lose tempo and lots of hp.
Summary: Alternate between buying ops and upgrading barge level until you get barge lv4 at round 6. Reroll shop once from round 6 onwards to get a guaranteed T5 6-star. Upgrading to barge lv5 (and lv6) is unnecessary, but if your setup is fairly good, then you can continue upgrading barge level for T6 6-stars.
- Round 1: Buy some random op, preferably ground
- Round 2: Upgrade barge level to lv2
- Round 3: If shop has same op, buy; if not, reroll and buy Andreana or defender
- Round 4: Upgrade barge level to lv3
- Round 5: If shop has same op, buy; if not, reroll and buy La Pluma or defender
- Round 6: Upgrade barge level to lv4, then reroll shop once and freeze immediately
(From this round onward, you can reroll then freeze shop to save the guaranteed 6-star for the next round) - Round 7: Buy frozen T5 6-star from previous round, then reroll shop to buy another T5 6-star and other same op
(If you use freeze correctly, you should have at least 2 6-stars by this round) - Round 8: If your setup is still losing, reroll and buy same op and T5 6-star; if not, upgrade barge level to lv5
- Round 9-10: Repeat round 8 until max barge level
- Round 11: If not yet max, upgrade barge level; reroll shop and buy T6 6-star
Some advantages of this squad over Kal squad include: getting 6-star ops one round earlier, getting a guaranteed 6-star every refresh, not having to sacrifice ops and HP to buy barge levels, can keep ops from early rounds to promote and get free 6-stars
Some disadvantages include: less HP means less room for error, having to learn how/when to freeze for optimal play, RNG possibility of having the singular guaranteed 6-star per round 1st-refresh be bad
@elder flume here it is 
done
are you just screwed if you dont destroy the factions before round 16
cuz i got one but not the other and just went downhill from there
some runs win at R18
tho some also win at R12
if you can beat it faster its easier
aw man
am i lack smt
this caster team is ok somehow but it gets worse when blood knight and jesselton appears
It's the map
The map is bad
Caster is good but the problem is when enemies leak and you need block
Or when it's against ranged enemies (like pathfinders)
I usually do this for that map
Tank defenders on right side and the rest just ranged ops behind. This was caster squad methinks
@willow sun what r u doing
drawing

not rlly worth to buy lv6 op ngl
lv5 alr enough for the game
I was thinking about that actually while writing and came to the conclusion that
At the point where you have enough funds to comfortably upgrade barge to lvl 5 for T6 ops, you're already winning and it doesn't matter
You can stay at barge 4 and refresh, or upgrade to barge 5 and it doesnt matter
If your run is hopeless, you'll die on barge 4 anyways
If your run can win, it most likely will regardless of barge lvl
Okay i put a clarification regarding that at the start

Ia

So rude smh
Will we get the Karlan File

ig Rten is just the end if you cant get File by then youre pretty much dead
7 rounds to try
Whatโs the general strategy for Lucian boss in is2
He steamrolls all my defenders
And then I die to trash mobs
How broken is freezing
I can use special refresh this round, freeze, buy the 6-star next round, then special refresh again next round for another 6-star
kill puppets before Phantom spawns
bait the teleport
block him to remove dodge
nuke
So sniper on the right frd bait boss then defender and just Wis s3?
ye
Ok thanks I died first time cause I didnโt understand his mechanics and then a second time cause he 2shot everyone before I could heal
each puppet gives like twenty% atk def to all enemies when die
or is it 5
forgor
but if they buff before enemies spawn then nothing to buff
wrong, they buff everything when they get hit ~10 times
so if you point a marksman at them they get fat stats and you get shit on
oh its hit based

i havent opened IS2 for years
also wait it's not even def
washed fr
Real talk here chat. Who has and what buff-debuff team has the highest possible one hit physical damage on the whole game? On normal stage (No IS relic or something like that)
Ines
Ray and Dorothy also hit pretty hard
Oh right physical
Itโs capped at 90 no
Oh hm
e.g. a certain Blood Knight
Is that really how it works
Wtf
Seems too conditional for their question but interesting
as long as the stolen enemy doesnt die or first hit does not damage it stays stolen
Naruhodoโฆ
Eben is also technically multi-hit, just really really fast
And it effectively doesnโt matter since how res works 
Imagine a physical mystic caster
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Have stupid high dph possible only if can pull off the stacks
lmao its like exu all over again
Oh 
Yeah but donโt calculate defense seperately for each stack cuz that would be awful
I mean like if it were to exist
Not telling anyone to do math
Just how it would be calculated since you said a lot of hits very fast for mystic
Super exia

google translate
Oh from earlier how long it would take Ines to reach INT max attack?
ye

lemuen s2,
exualter +26% atk
shu s3 + 3 other sui +37% atk
stainless s1 +96% atk
warf s2 +90% atk
aak s3 +50% atk
silence alter s3 to survive aak s3
schwarz mod +15% atk to sniper
W modX for +27% dmg to stunned
sesa for +24% dmg to blocked units
then lucilia 75% fragile
97k dmg hit ๐
thats 13 slots
Should also give her infinitely stacking ASPD to make it a little faster
Good luck when you figure how to speed hack the frame gate 
do u guys know if goober talents like W non alter +dmg to stunned unit only works for her
or other ops as well
other ops
PC client will allow us to have more frames = remove ASPD cap 
Conviction max damage used W stun
w gives it to everyone
or rather old Conviction max damage
Physical Saria

But you can go higher
Go even further beyond


Is there physical fragile
only eunectes RA mod
Buh
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cos that would mean RA food is allowed and shit
Ya
Hi light pws collect mpreg data๐ฅน
I should test your hypothesis on someone but idk who or how
me when ray deals 60k dph in is cuz of uber collectibles
Blud
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Im in bed
Tmr๐ซก
Remind me in 8 hours if you want
Bet
ray with 3 talent stacks doesn't hit harder than lemon s2 ?
no
lemon alr hits for 12k buffless
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Good luck finding a normal mob that can survive 3 hits
while ray hits for like 7
Lmfao
what in the powercreep spirit
well lemon takes 4s to hit once
I would test fibs hypothesis
while ray takes like 1.6s
its not really pwoercreep
since lemon takes more than 2x the time to fire one shot
But Iโm lazy and idk what normal mob to test on
hmmm
I know
ray just hits different ngl
put ray in good position
range is practically the entire map because of sandbeast
bonkers stuff 
cuz schwarz ig
Wait it wouldnโt even see the full damage
Because lemuen
Only charges up enough to kill
TSPMO
true she will fire once she 1hko
Or find the tankiest normal mob and give my self the worst cursed relics
But canโt disable IS buffs
F
wtf isnt it 13?
technically no bc the sandbeast can only be put in her range
but she does have enough range to not really care abt range yes
any tips 3-8 boss just destroys my units i cant burst him down fast enough
Borrow a Support Unit
Where is your E2
I've borrowed decadenza but barely just managed to get 2 star
When you borrow someone, you gotta have an E2 of your own in the squad
i dont have e2 yet
Lappland and a Support Unit will take you to Chapter 13 safely
But you seem to have Zuo Le and Shu, you are not lacking firepower
It's up to you who you are going to use it on
But I personally would do Lappland
alr thanks dude
After you E2 someone
Borrow a Ling and do this #strategy message
For your 3-8 I mean
Ling selling 
@wicked minnow just started
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ogb76FF6offyyTW2H3QpxFxs5P7D1cLuDpdTiwFu41U/edit?usp=sharing
should i use my free level 80 voucher on lappland?
or just keep it for now
That one is up to you. You only need an E2 to borrow Support Unit.
Once you get to latter Chapters, you'll get a good amount of resources, prioritize E2ing your dps first
Su Zuo Le
@smoky blaze
my ass didnt realize there were tabs and i thought it was still empty
i will add that there are tabs in the info tab 
does it really improve them all that much
tbh
if they're dying to the trash they're laneholding, they aren't a good option and i doubt 10 hp per hit will make a difference :ya:
then again they do feel better with mod1 (both of mine are mod1), but i tested highmore a bit without mod and saw no diff
ig i never tested for mod1 specifically maybe that's why
borrow my mod1 highmorb pluma 
stopping at mod 1 :realmad:
look im poor ๐ฅน
there's also quite a few 5* i haven't raised so i can't really judge them accurately unless i do math on desmos, and even then...
IS temp is not a good metric 
flamebringer mod2 is really good

flamebringer mod3 is an increase
i was just going through the list
6k hp 
it makes it so that the enemy can just die in the surrounding 4 tiles instead of having to get killed by him
it makes him usable basically
does he have the good mod at least
Tachanka is mod1 isn't it
no
well for him it's fine
he has the revive mod
but honestly it works for flamebrigner
he doesn't ๐ฅน
i mean yeah X is mainly for mushas who can actually sustain themselves well enough
i guess flamebringer can't 
i dont really use tachanka so i wouldnt really know. mod1 seems like all you'd need
my main thing about saying that it works for him is that he has a massive ass hp pool
he has a decent hp pool after revive
so he has like close to 10k total hp or something close to that
how broken is flamebringer...
broken (derogatory)
that is so Qyurii
Nope
@crisp bolt is noir mod important 
The new enemies from protocol only PM1 to PM5 right? cant remember the other sections 
Each group has 1 new one
i have 3 freinds that have max level Nearls on their support slots, why isnt it appearing here after 50 refreshes?
Nearl the Radiant Knight?
It should be on here, can you go verify in your friends list again thats it not Defender Nearls?
Also next time #help for general questions
Whats your account level lads?
5star nearl doesnt exist to me lol, i meant NTR Nearl so yes i verfied she's on their lists
This shouldn't matter right since they are already added as friends?
account level? 120 and so are my freinds, so?
Its just a check because low level players tend to lose access to support units at 20 to only people in same level
But presuming this is for stronghold protocol no idea why its doing this
hm
Thats weirdge. Normally it happens with a low level account (less than 20)
more like starts at 20+
And shouldn't happen anyways because they have friends added
ye
Stronghold Protocol you can only add from friends
Maybe u could record ur screen and show the whole process
Maybe we can find the issue
^this might be help
Flourishing Suffering ๐
That was EXTREMELY painful
could someone help me out with squad composition? progression wise im on story 2-7 but im also hardstuck on one of the tequila side story stages
just borrow for tequila side stages and e2 him with ticket
tbh im not sure who to borrow, and if it would be enough since ive tried with borrowed units and lose very quickly on this map
ah this stage is kinda rough
im guessing overall im not lvled enough but id like a general squad comp recom since its getting expensive
can you get a 2 star or 1 star on it
no i really do just straight up lose the first wave
because the next stage is easier
i see
hold up ill send you a general squad that i use on my alt account
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this is generall what i use
if you cant get krooster you can sub in another defender for that stage
you should get courrier here instead of raising scav
hes generally better overall
also try to E1 characters since its a big powerspike
Wish scavanger didn't die over the weakest enemies in this game
holy shit close range sniper recruit is that pinecone gurantee
this account might be peak
Wh
Theres a
"Close ranged" tag?

ok ty
my japanese might be washed
i think it was guard

or rather
melee
which is basically close range
pinecone is range tho, if melee tag stays, you dont get her
ah maybe i shoulda shared my current squad, what would be the best adjustment?
you dont need shamare this early

amiya can be replace by steward since he is just cheaper and better early
Onl what does shamare even do
Ive seen so many recomendations on her
is steward a 3*? i dont see him in my list
What debuff she gives
fragile and defense down
Yyeah, try recruiting a caster wirh 9h and skip
just checked, pinecone guarantee is aoe+dps(assuming you dont get the 5 star)
Better than pramanyx?
yeah you might need a caster recruit
ok
pramanyx is shit bro ๐ฅน
Shush she was one of my first 5* s in my account, i rly loved her 
How come her numbers do nothing i never understood
Guys how do I beat 7-18 for some reason i cant just clear the entire thing with wisadel
you need more defenders in general since they are pretty good early, glaucus can removed as well
the rest can be E1 and that should be fine
Taking on what Chatter said, Spot is the best one considering u dont have the resources to evolve Gummy (might not even have her)
Is that PATRIOT level?
i dont recognize the names, so i dont have either
Spot is a Defender+healing (or just a Defender tag with 50/50 chance) tag, 3*
Gummy is a 4*, quite harder from recruit
Actually idek if shes there
literal 5 star
oh i have that guy
build him

Inesless behavior 
he is the best 4 star that is basically a 5 star
or rather he does 5 star damage
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Ethan is right behind there tho
im playing 5 stars on this account
call me rechord
Not on the damage side
It is
wisadel losing on patriot
ok so im looking for steward and spot, and replacing amiya and like gravel?

gravel is kinda nice for helidrop tho

maybe replace mel with spot
since you have lapp
Bro how
I
I dont even know what to say
With that STACKED team
Wisadel AND LOGOS
yeah i cant help that 
ok, i was thinking tequila replaces mel once i scrape by
thats fine ye
Learn how to time the mines properly and get to phase 2 asap
but ya ill replace fang then, i was having trouvle with elysium though bc he only blocks 1 unit
do you even need mines with wis logos 
yeah flags dont block when you use their skill
I am a lil stupid so yeah
ok, just feels like im skill capped ig or early game things
hey dont shit on my e1 myrtle
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Idefk
Back then my only 6* was Degenbrecher and i had 1 chance or else everyone would be erased before she could even skill

Im not even on chapter 11
How am I supposed to get it
What
Material issue?
sorta, and the fact that im still on chapter 9
Does logos mod asks u to beat a chapter 11 level, thats it?
yeah
Well in that case u can just ignore it for now
I mean its logos
The whole weakness of chapt 7 is arts damage
is ti a good idea to use op for refilling sanity?
@wicked minnow something ud like to say?
Times without Wisadel / dumb young me first win
Because dumb young me was trying that screen recorder by the first time and i didnt knew it was recording outside sounds

I started playing 2 years ago, on degen banner
By the time i arrived on chapt 7, it was shus banner
So yeah it was way easier than the real old old school patriot treatment
But it rly was everything i had, as u can see

well dang uh
sorta wish I had degen now
actually I could just borrow it
Do you have left over currency from the recent limited event?
Issue is not materials, it asks to beat an 11-x level
Oh, wisadel borrow
And he still hasn't beaten chap 11?...
Funnily enough shu couldnt outheal patriots damage so i had to use her purely for the sake of stalling
Still hasnt beaten chap 9*
Hm...
I guarantee you that degen alone wont win u this fight
If u dont know how to bamboozle patriot, she will die before skill
Can I ask what basic game mechanics you know? Like how targetting works or maybe, idk something
Wisadel has brainrotted ppl farther than i expected
Doesn't like wisadel solo this stage even with just e2 lvele 60? Not really solo solo cuz the trash enemies but yea minimal ops
I remember beating it with like Ling and a bunch of e1s back then, granted, it's Ling, but still
Zuo Le and Penans can solo ya
Mines can solo Phase 1
well gee thats kinda insulting to ask
but no, I usually just play this game when I see banners I wanna do
Mines just need particular placement order
Can I ask if you know about the mines and the originiun crystals that does damage to ops in this stage?
Yeah I've done a few attempts with the mines
Sorry if I offended you ;-;, usually issues like this arise whenever someone who plays for a long time stops then comes back and forgets them
I can get through phase one but it always dies around the base so all the ops just die
Patriot has a lot of particularities that makes his fight one of the best in this game fr fr
1 enemy (2 if you count red version) in this entire roster is "weak" to arts damage and they have 60 res
You can borrow a Lin for easy phase 2 mechanic ignore
Since he shoots the farthest ranged op from him
If you are confused @limber fox I suggest you look at the enemy abilities
Well what i mean is that chapt 7 enemies have above average defense for every enemy, the drop of damage output from c6 to c7 is felt in the very basic enemies
That not even taking into account all the shieldbearers
Ya

Sarkaz has high res
these bunch of enemies have some above average res
most of them are weak to physical
Wait they have ptilopsis, they could just borrow Nymph s2
these guys buff defense and that's it
Their squad is enough
If I wasn't farming rn I could have done a proof of concept run
Let me open my account I'mma go do it
Well i remember quite clearly that most of my units back then couldnt deal enough phys damage to beat them on ease
Most of my stages were beaten with amiya and Lava
i mean i just wouldnt say that the chapter is particularly weak to arts damage. i dont really have anything against it
for really new players, they might find an easier time with arts damage but with leveled units the distinction doesnt really matter.
Like, take for instance in the video, i place Highmore in the lowerlane, and she was E2 at the time
Even with the skill that increases her damage, look how long it takes for her to kill the most basic of the enemies
Reapers aren't the best at clearing strong elites
Im not talking abt elites
Im talking abt the standard enemy
The literal
"Guy" Trademark enemy
Ah
Just take a look there and u may understand what i mean
ok so from what i've gathered
my issue isnt the operators its that I suck with the mine mechanic
Your Wisadel skill masteries? And mod level?
@wicked minnow this video, it was my first time ever beating patriot 1.5y ago (the struggle was real)
they're rank 7 but none of them have specialize
mod is 2
You wanna know how big the difference is between sl 7 and m3?
Man
its almost double damage between sl7 and m3 on patriot
because patriots def is so high
To think we would need wis m3 to beat patriot
still with mines wisadel full S3 should kill patriot phase 1 before he even reaches your operators

Lord. The powercreep huh
eh I can't rn
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but I'll try getting the skills and mods a bit higher and try that ig
You don't really need to tbh
Like I said you can one rotation with mod2 sl7 with mines
Very few bosses in this game has made me feel like "true Skill check" like patriot used to
Literally have wisadel camp him
its just a matter of how new you are vs the operators you have
everyone has a break point stage
unless their account progressed itself faster than they cleared stages ( ๐ณ )
my most fun in this game was a month into playing
doing chapters 10 to 13 on adverse with the piss units i had
Bet most of their skill is lv4
well despite me feeling bad that I had to ask for help despite having the definition of carry as an operator, thanks everyone
well sometimes its because of the carry you don't learn
dont feel bad about asking for help
God, chapter 13 itself felt like walking through hell
Everything felt unbearably difficult to defeat
I started this game in january
i was saving pulls immediately and was trudging through chapter 10
defenderless, i literally didn't own cuora or gummy, spot only has 2K hp
specter s2 for the cannon
Ch13 is fun. Get logos s1 and reed s3 then watch your phone explode 
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Really simple ya
This year?
yes
Damn, to think i am older than u
Ik this is poorly done and is kinda embarrassing for a 3 yr player but it's 3 am and I'm sleepy so don't judge me
Does it really take long to send a 3 min video, nvm
why lol
It would have been better if I used S2 tbh
i actually joined this server before you
I just didn't play the game 
Idk
U felt like someone whos been around for 4y or smt
Just a ๐ค try harding
tryharding in what ๐ฅน
Everything seems so
you the kinda guy that would lose in vermin
even kernel
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bitch sybau
i was D10 2 months into playing the game
ion wanna hear it from you max
d10 ๐ฅ
2 months ๐ฅน
my grandma can d15 in 1 monthj
well shit let me hit
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Better than me tbh
All I did was fck around
meanwhile me playing in d5 because fuck it i just wanna reach 150 bp level asap
D10 is most efficient ๐ฅน
Wao, to be good apparently you need a massive ego 
well it was just too scared to ask for help
a lot of places are just elitist
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i dont wanna waste my time by losing runs
so i just keep trying
hours on end on some story stages
no support units
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Chapter 13 Boss Adverse stayed up for 6 hours
#help is elitist in some places kekw





