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azure roost
shell olive
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oh damn ive been stalling for like 30minutes now, thnaks

elder flume
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i wouldve S1M3 before S2M3

limber fox
azure roost
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@limber fox ngl with that squad

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ngl i can hh that

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but eh suffer

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🏃‍♂️

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@smoky halo ur pro

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u did n15 4★ only all ending

smoky halo
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faej

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faek

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i dont play IS 🥹

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on my 4star account

limber fox
azure roost
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handhold but ye

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just make ur top lane reinforced

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so no leak

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and grab mudrock for invi lane

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use pozy Walter for ya

limber fox
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Alright

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I will try later

azure roost
smoky halo
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damn where my handhold

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:realmad:

elder flume
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Shifters have 2 block to counter -1 and deployable on ranged TexasBlob

limber fox
azure roost
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ur hh

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ur pro

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no need

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do my sss

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tyty fibro

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so pro

smoky halo
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hi chat does cousin marco win this?

maiden hound
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50/50

smoky halo
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damn cousin marco better clutch up

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cousin marco won

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how broken

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‼️

limber fox
azure roost
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why

fringe axle
limber fox
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My discord broke

fringe axle
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The entire stage gimmick is just keeping carnival going for as long as possible
Pinecone can pop every single balloon on her own no problem and the rest of your operators can be just about anything (as long as you can block or slow the cars so they don't run over the spark)

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May S1 can do this no problem

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so blockers aren't even required

fringe axle
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Doesn't work with S7

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Or it's just too inconsistent

limber fox
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@azure roost they literally ignored mudrock

wicked minnow
azure roost
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????

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🤦‍♂️

glass monolith
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Saga at blue box moment LappDumb

stray dune
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Bruh how tf tou beat Elusive Merc?
The enemies have high attack and W can easily 1 hit ranged operators

smoky halo
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can krill W

stray dune
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Killing W isnt much of a trouble if the other mobs isnt like this

smoky halo
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hoederer can face tank a bunch of the mobs

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🚬

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broken ahh operator

stray dune
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Gonna try bringing him next

full terrace
stray dune
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Emergency

full terrace
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You need Ines

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First of all you hold the right side

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W will spawn from top right

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Let her walk

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When she enters the stairs

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Deploy Wisadel on the top-right high platform

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This is slightly to the right of your blue box

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When W appears in the middle

limber fox
full terrace
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Drop Ines ro reveal her (you can retreat her right away if you want)

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And Wisadel shot her

azure roost
full terrace
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Doing all this while you deploy Shu and Logos to the left side

azure roost
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hello arf

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help him me busy

elder flume
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[mudrock stops attacking[

azure roost
full terrace
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Bait the left side casters if needed

azure roost
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hello rain

limber fox
full terrace
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Dont forget to Shu heals your Logos to the left

pure orchid
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Banned

azure roost
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balls

full terrace
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I will make a recording for it when I get it again
The Emergency*

elder flume
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hi Ryo
idk how to actually call you

smoky halo
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is shu even good

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feels like shes just ed2 slave

stray dune
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I probably can kill her.
But the enemies on left can easily kill squishy target and on the right they can revive so i also need a blocker.

With my luck, i have half of those.
3 times i failed this, last time i dont read what stage because my team are pretty solid but no for this.

elder flume
full terrace
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That is what I just said. Hold the right while waiting for W to pass

limber fox
smoky halo
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reading works u just need to read the wiki

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for footnotes

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and shit

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🚬

full terrace
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And left, just Logos it

stray dune
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I was enjoying GG and laptop clear the map and then bam, enemies with camouflage

full terrace
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Make sure you just bait the casters and whatnots

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Emergency Elusive that W is Invisible yes

full terrace
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Thats the first thing I said, you need Ines

limpid ore
stray dune
limpid ore
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commit to scene

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big ass detection range in S2

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at least it's not that one IS4 map with invisible enemies and no melee tiles

full terrace
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Kaz Falls and Elusive Merc are two most cancerous Expansion I stages

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Chaos is not that hard if you have proper healer (hint: Eyjaberry)

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And Regular Army got Camouflage tiles, it's also not that hard

limpid ore
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Epochal Gaps is still ass when faced unprepared

full terrace
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Nah Epochal Gaps is easy

scarlet mortar
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i say most bc degenbrecher S3 blocks. for some reason

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anw welcome to jank, keep fucking around and finding out

elder flume
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Not sure how to group them without Ela

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theyre too fast for Mag to bind in place

limpid ore
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i mean you can also use 2 hookmasters for bottom hole

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maybe even 3

elder flume
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ye ive been testing Gladiia

brittle mesa
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What’s Nearl’s gimmick compared to Gummy?

elder flume
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more heal

limpid ore
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more heal taken for everyone from all source i think

brittle mesa
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Maybe I’ll upgrade her soon.

brisk surge
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I have awoken

limber fox
brisk surge
limber fox
wicked minnow
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bro did not play the event

brisk surge
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Why do I not remember that at all

wicked minnow
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dementia got to you 😭

brisk surge
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Sorry bro

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Hours of pv 9

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Grinding stupid 3 star strats

misty magnet
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anyone have base tips?

limber fox
misty magnet
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thx

maiden hound
scarlet mortar
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yes it's annoying when the skill doesn't spell out what it does concretely

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it's just that the casual way to deal with it is to try new ops leisurely

elder flume
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thats one done

scarlet mortar
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skills like ch'en and DB don't really say they become invincible during the period either

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and there's actually nothing that says gravel's double hit anims count as two hits yet is effectively only subtracted by defense once

limber fox
scarlet mortar
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eh that's why i usually raise new ops and use them at the start of an event

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less hassle when they bamboozle you

limber fox
scarlet mortar
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oh no that's just the rocks having zero def

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executors have pretty decent base atk

limber fox
scarlet mortar
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not for the ch9 rocks

limber fox
scarlet mortar
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for the CW balls, yes the hitcount matters

limber fox
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CW stands for what again

scarlet mortar
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lone trail (the code means control's wishes apparently)

limber fox
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O

limber fox
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Anyways

scarlet mortar
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that's bc she does

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it's two hits but the total damage is counted like (hit - def)

limber fox
scarlet mortar
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extremely weird detail that only a few ops have

limber fox
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Swordmasters

scarlet mortar
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no they do two separate attacks and get subtracted twice by def yh

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that's why i said it's weird

limber fox
scarlet mortar
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class names are funny

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gee i wonder what the pusher subclass is called

limber fox
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Its not even that hard, i just needed to synchronize all my deployments

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And skills

azure roost
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any defender work

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but mudrock made that side brainded

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and see its not that hard

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anyway im busy

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balls

elder flume
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balls

glass monolith
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Isn't shit still has like shitton of attack?

tawdry path
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well if you cant burst down Ya it becomes pretty miserable

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but nothing a support unit cant do

azure roost
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so yep

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need def with high hp

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balls²

tawdry path
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yeah a high def defender plus medic youd zzz the left side

azure roost
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at cm

glass monolith
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CM is 1200 ATK and first hit for 2400.

azure roost
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other way to dealt with invi

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is totter

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or just invi reveal it other way

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bait first attack using frd or summon

tawdry path
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let gravel eat the first hit

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zzz

azure roost
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but ye that side is balls when mudrock there

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balls³

tawdry path
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mudrock is such a good operator when you dont have to do anything for her to be useful

azure roost
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all i know

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how i dealt invi lane

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is blitz s2

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cancelling invi first hit because of stun

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and enemy ded

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funni ngl

tawdry path
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damn

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didnt knew he can cancel the first hit

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pretty funky

tawdry path
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nothing lead and steel cant fix

tawdry path
azure roost
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ok here the gif

elder flume
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i thought it was a still image of his face

azure roost
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but ye blitz s2 interaction

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i have to do pause stuff to see if the fucker gonna get revealed

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then press skill

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ngl to this day @elder flume its gonna be easier

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module

elder flume
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thought its already here

azure roost
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well its here

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ngl i prob redo that clear i did

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with current stuff

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module

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balls⁴

weary grotto
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I need help on pv 10

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Lapplad 😭 😭 i swear imma correct you so hard after this stage

somber falcon
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🤨

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you have thorns, just put him next to firework and point up

weary grotto
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The problem is lappland himself

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He keep killing most of my squad

somber shuttle
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he...

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whats ur squad

scarlet mortar
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"he"

weary grotto
somber falcon
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fix your firework range
you're just letting the enemies approach it, even with slow

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and stop using warf s2

weary grotto
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How many medics do i need for this stage?

somber falcon
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as much as needed

weary grotto
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Is there a tip to avoid my squad getting picked one by one by lappland or getting aoe bombarded as i keep getting dp?

somber falcon
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skip getting dp

weary grotto
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The thing i noticed is that myrtle get bombarded as soon as i put her in the field

somber shuttle
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you could do uh

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vanguard to medic opener, or vice verssa

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it worked for me

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you get 30 dp at start anyway

somber shuttle
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to stall the dancers at least twice on lapp's 2nd phase

weary grotto
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Do you recommend lazy charge or freaky charge this stage

somber shuttle
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lazy

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idk how to do the wisadel strat as i did the logos strat

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i could send you my recording, then try to get reference

weary grotto
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Tell me how to logos

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I heard there is also a virtuosa clear

somber shuttle
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my logos is dyfunctional tho (no mod) so i had to rely on another damage

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not sure about virt clear

somber shuttle
somber shuttle
weary grotto
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Somehow my medics get two shotted by p1 lappland

somber shuttle
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how the fuck

weary grotto
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Idk

somber falcon
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e1 medics PodencoSip

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they're squishy

somber shuttle
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hmm

weary grotto
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Is this stage even clearable with e1 ops?

somber shuttle
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e1 only is hard

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mixed e2 and e1 yeah

weary grotto
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I do have mixed e2 e1

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But medics are all e1 and they cannot survive 3 hits

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I guess i shoukd just give up this stage

somber shuttle
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its clearable with your squad technically

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ill js give a short recording on my own opening with e1 medics

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trust, that shit works

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before your first medic dies deploy one that will take hit

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any frd or vanguard will suffice

scarlet mortar
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if you're on mobile, switch to desktop mode if your browser can't load bilibili vids

weary grotto
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Somehow my ptilopsis sucks ahhhh

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Does really 10 level make the difference?

rich plover
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Is there any advantage of killing Theresis early in Simulated Skirmish?

somber shuttle
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deploy medic then vg, so vg takes the hit

weary grotto
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I have no vg 🥲

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Myrtle is non combatant vg, ines 1 block

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And suzumama e0 lvl1

somber shuttle
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🥀

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can ines tank

weary grotto
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The problem is she have 1 block :/

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There is inminent leaking

somber shuttle
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it doesnt really matter lol you need your setup to work

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you have practice plans

full terrace
weary grotto
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Ah yes the kyostin v plan

full terrace
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Lemme know if you people want this, I'll record it

weary grotto
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Pls

full terrace
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"the kyostinv plan" yeah go watch his

weary grotto
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I need yours also :]

somber falcon
weary grotto
full terrace
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You try first, my hands are kinda full rite now. I'll record when I get home later, if you still struggle til tomorrow you can come back here for a video.

weary grotto
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Ok

full terrace
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Best of luck

rich plover
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Doesn't Ines stall?

weary grotto
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I cant clear phase 2 😭

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And i got no dp to deploy my ops in order

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I give up

full terrace
# weary grotto I cant clear phase 2 😭

Identify the threats and counter accordingly. In Phase 2, there are 2 main threats:

  • First is the mini cars coming from the left. These cars will explode upon contact so you want someone to take care of them. In my foundation clear I pointed Wisadel left to take care of those mini cars #strategy message while Logos bursting the boss. In my Low-End Clear however, Wisadel is on boss duty so there must be someone taking care of the left mini cars, hence Kroos #strategy message.
  • Second is the boss's time limit. In Phase 2, the boss teleports around and you must defeat her in like two Carnivals, otherwise she just teleports directly to your blue box and you eat a -2 LP. In order to defeat her within time limit, the second Carnival must start on time, meaning the firework fuse must not be disrupted, hence why I brought Beagle #strategy message (she is on fuse duty).
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As you can see in LeoTse96's clear, Spot is deployed on that purple circled tile to protect the fuse, and Orchid on green circled tile on mini cars duty.

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While KyoStinV had Gummy on fuse duty and Kroos on mini cars duty.

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Ofcourse if your Logos is strong enough and you have good RNG, it is possible to burst the boss in the first Carnival, that way there is no need for you to protect the fuse for the second Carnival, because well.. the boss is dead and there is no more time limit.

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Aside from those, the timing for the Carnival will decide how your stage progresses. For example, most Low-End Guides out there positioned their Defenders/Laneholders right in front of their blue boxes. When the Carnival starts, all enemies will rush toward the firework and end the Carnival earlier (the boss loses her DR when Carnival ended).
While my method, I had Cardigan blocked some enemies buying a little bit more time for the firework to be active #strategy message, this allows my Wisadel to recharge and activate her skill on the boss in the desired timing, while using the Carnival to kill off the remaining etc enemies with normal attacks.

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If you are following a guide make sure you pay attention to those

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Everyone has their own timing

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Unless well, you brute force with powerful ops

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Then screw the timings

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Some guidemakers out there used Logos for boss duty. Logos is actually more lethal than Wisadel for bursting this boss in this stage, but the thing is, it's harder to setup because you need to bait using Gravel and friends while you set everything up under the boss's constant fire. Wisadel doesnt need Gravel and friends because she baits using her Revenant Shadows, thats why I didnt draft any bait there #strategy message

brisk surge
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im back after another fat nap

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arf solo strategy today huh

narrow pendant
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Why is it fat

brisk surge
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idk

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fredi

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you would never have guessed

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im eating dinner at 2am again

narrow pendant
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Max🥹

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Bestie

half marsh
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hi, is contrail actually viable in blocking flying enemies like the flying ch9 enemies? like can she withstand attacks similar to ground units or phalanx, or is are her stat distributions more like the other ranged units

narrow pendant
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Flying ch9? As in, the gargoyles?

half marsh
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i want to build her bc shes so cute (will probably be powercrept though) but will she be of Use

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oh yes

narrow pendant
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Nah she pops like a ballon

half marsh
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oh :(

brisk surge
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It's pretty cope

narrow pendant
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Shes good for a 4 star

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But kinda bad otherwise

glass monolith
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She is pretty good stats for 4 star but i doubt you will cope her as gargoyle blocker HellaKek

brisk surge
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She doesn't need to be powercrept because she ain't good in the first place besides some niches

narrow pendant
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Blocking air units is a fun neat little thing, but...well, virtually useless

brisk surge
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Holy shit fried rice dinner

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Damn I'm asian

narrow pendant
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Egg too right

scarlet mortar
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she isn't good bc she blocks air units, if anything her strength is being invuln to ground enemies

narrow pendant
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It better be with an egg

brisk surge
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Ye egg

narrow pendant
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Good

half marsh
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thanks for inputs DocNice

scarlet mortar
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she gets to pew pew them without them doing anything to her

half marsh
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oh wow

narrow pendant
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Stop having dinner at 2am btw

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If u say it to me again tmr im doxxing your adress and beating u up myself :realmad:

brisk surge
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Wtfart

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I woke up at this time am I not supposed to eat

narrow pendant
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Youre supposed to turn around and sleep again

brisk surge
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I've been sleeping for 12

narrow pendant
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Wtfart

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You scare me

brisk surge
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im an artist (autist)

narrow pendant
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Double whammy

full terrace
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@weary grotto there you go

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2 Medics are overkill there. Ansel alone is probably enough

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But eh.. whatever

brisk surge
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on 3 star only clears they use 2 medics too so its more comfy

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good run

willow sun
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@hazy sinew what 6* are you thinking of m3ing

hazy sinew
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lappy

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or texalt

willow sun
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which skill

hazy sinew
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virt would be s1 sionce s3 is being done rn

willow sun
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i'll just do an example vid then go back to coding cause i have a project due ReedBean

hazy sinew
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tex not sure tbh

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lappy s3

willow sun
hazy sinew
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cs student life

willow sun
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idfk why i have to do so much coding

brisk surge
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same thing

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both needs some cs

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one just needs more

hazy sinew
willow sun
brisk surge
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shouldve been an animation student like me

willow sun
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waow can i see ExeNaruhodo

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i tried art in the past but i went too fast and burnt out so whoops

brisk surge
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i should have some stuff on twitter linked in discord

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i quit animating because it sucks and now im just an illustrator

willow sun
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o

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rip

brisk surge
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i dont post everything because i cant be satisfied with the quality

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life of an artist

willow sun
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ok your twitter isn't linked so i just googled it instead ExeNaruhodo

brisk surge
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wtfart?

willow sun
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oh now i see it

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unless you just added it

brisk surge
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i just turned it on ye

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i had the display off

willow sun
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oh

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no animations on twitter sadge

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art is cool tho

brisk surge
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i killed them

willow sun
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i only doodle from time to time now, i haven't drawn anything seriously in like a year

brisk surge
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i lock in when it comes to my vtubers

glass monolith
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Sup. How did you matlab-ing ended so far? uWu

willow sun
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lemme grabn the graphs

glass monolith
willow sun
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i thikn

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300 pulls

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50m accounts

glass monolith
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So 1.5b points? SoraWow Got parfor working?

willow sun
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nop lol

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i just optimized my code

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i made it skip duplicate points

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it works really well for low pull high accounts but really shit for high pull low accounts

brisk surge
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so at around 60 is usually when everybody gets it

willow sun
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the latter my old code worked good enough

willow sun
brisk surge
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why does it keep scaling up to 300 though

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is there like a chance to not get a 6

willow sun
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my best explanation is like

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not everyone's pity cycle is the same

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some people never even hit it (lucky), and they boost up the rates a lot
some people hit it very often (unlucky), and they slog down the rates a bit
but on average you'll eventually average out to a pretty consistent pity rate over an infinite amount of pulls (around 2.9% chance of a 6* per pull)
but if you do fewer than infinite pulls, say 300, there's a chance your 300th pull was done at 40 pulls, so pity never does anything for you for those last 50 pulls

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if you started in the middle of a pull sesh, maybe you started at 20/50 pulls for pity, maybe 35/50, but rarely every 0/50 which is how you start on every limited banner
so mathematically-wise, you should be pulling as much as you can when you do pull since it means you spend as little time as possible out of a pity cycle
unless you do single pulls like a freak

brisk surge
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i see

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so keep gambling

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is what i got out of this

willow sun
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tl;dr pull until next possible pity, if stop at sparking (300) then you'll be losing value since you might end at 40/50 pity

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kinda yeah RedOmegaLul

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afaik logically it shouldn't matter if you only do single pulls

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but like that takes forever and i'll eat your skin if you do it

wicked minnow
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you cant stop me 🫡

brisk surge
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im gonna hire a chinese boy to do that for me

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wait im chinese

willow sun
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if i graphed out each individual accounts' 6 star rates, you'll see bumps
basically stop pulling at one of those bumps

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lemme graph it rq actually

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here was a simulation of just 10 accs

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so say youre at 100-150 pulls, youd want to stop pulling at one of these bumps
it doesn't really say anything new, basically the same logic as "pulling until first 6*"

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ok i think a better way to explain it is

brisk surge
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but doesnt the "pity" carry over to the next limited

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i see

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but i stopped at a 6 star and only doing the single from dailies

willow sun
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earlier on in your pulls, say during pulls 0-100, you can only hit pity once, making it very rng since most of your time spent pulling is with no pity
when you pull more, say during pulls 200+, the amount of time you spend during pity will begin to average out to the mean amount
if you pull more times you're less likely to deal with rng basically
this is a better explanation

brisk surge
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i think im chill

acoustic slate
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Interesting, is this basically “prepare X times 35 pulls” where X is the number of 6 stars you want lol

willow sun
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roughly ReedBean

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on the other hand it is just a bunch of probabilities, youre still gambling

acoustic slate
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How complicated is the formula for offrate limited lol

willow sun
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heres a good way to visualize it, this is between 40-120 pulls, theres a shitton of variance

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but when you start dragging it out to 1k pulls, then theres hardly any variance

acoustic slate
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Like, if you can figure out the chance of pulling offrate limited

willow sun
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oh like do you want me to plot the number of offrate limiteds

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yeah i can do that

acoustic slate
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Then surely there’s a forumla

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Well I figured you already had

brisk surge
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thats kinda cope

acoustic slate
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Don’t trouble yourself

willow sun
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i just multiply the probability by whateer the chance of getting an offrate limited when pulling a 6* is lol

acoustic slate
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I was just curious

wary wing
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neia, Sami and moe already did this for krooster

willow sun
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yea there's tons of other pull sims out there

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i'm just graphing it cause i wanted to visualize it

acoustic slate
willow sun
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okie its running now, i'll ping you when its done if you don't mind

acoustic slate
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I curious about offrate

Specifically because I’d like to put it in my own spreadsheet so that I can have the answer for people who ask when limited banners come around

willow sun
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300 pulls, 1m accs

acoustic slate
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How much difference between 1m and 100k

willow sun
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wdym?

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pulls or accounts

glass monolith
willow sun
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ok i accidentally reused a variable so the entire graph bricked itself at the end Sheew

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rerunning it

brisk surge
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now we have to wait for another 20 hours

willow sun
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shh its only like 2 minutes

brisk surge
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can you increase the 1 m by another 10x

willow sun
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nope

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matlab runs out of memory

acoustic slate
tidal sedge
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Gonna end it all

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I FORGOT ABOUT DP

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😭😭😭

wicked minnow
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damn...

brisk surge
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wtf is that bum ass team

wicked minnow
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how did you even get this far ReedBean

brisk surge
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yeah is this like d1

tidal sedge
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???

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I didn't know the Operators DP costs aren't reset after the switch to the second map

glass monolith
#

2 medics for final phase no Wisadel deploy to delete boss? HellaKek

brisk surge
#

you have

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6 ops

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for quilion

tidal sedge
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You don't know how the boss works max

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Lmfao

brisk surge
#

you are either cracked out or mentally insane

glass monolith
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Now you know that boss fucking adios at record time pace in last phase

wicked minnow
#

hey gamers is it possible to tank the boss. asking for a friend

glass monolith
# brisk surge 6 ops

Isn't it like not displaying operators left behind in first part of map in second part?

tidal sedge
#

Yeah

brisk surge
tidal sedge
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Ofc you can't send everyone over since you still have to delete the remaining 25% of HP

brisk surge
#

i guess the next run you'll know

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go again

wicked minnow
#

the gambling never ends GavialPensive

willow sun
#

also mb i took a whiel i went back to re-code some parts so it would show weights with transparency

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each black dot represents a sim, the red line is the average

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lemme do it with more tests now

acoustic slate
#

I mean I know

willow sun
# willow sun

this is just for ANY offrate limited btw (0.00214%), so if you wanted, say, a 5x you'd get on average 0.25 per 300 pulls

acoustic slate
#

Interesting. I remember the odds were much worse before second kernel split

agile ember
#

Guys how do I best ed4

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Image sending now but very slow SkadiDaijoubu

tidal sedge
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IS5?

glass monolith
agile ember
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First time getting this far

tidal sedge
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Oh shit no Eyjaberry

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Grey S2!?

agile ember
agile ember
brisk surge
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what diff

tidal sedge
#

Grey uses S1 in IS5 😭

agile ember
brisk surge
#

how many atk speed relics do you have

agile ember
tidal sedge
#

I'd recommend watching a video first to get an idea of what to expect from the fight.
And for Op placement.

Also use Wis S2.

brisk surge
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only if he has enough attack speed

tidal sedge
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Unless you don't have any Aspd relic

brisk surge
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if he doesnt s2 does nothing and its a lost run

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its kinda like a lost run anyways

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cuz no global heal

brisk surge
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no silence as well

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idk

tidal sedge
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Silence might save the day depending on the aspd

brisk surge
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seems a bit cooked if i were to say

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oh

agile ember
brisk surge
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hes does have silence

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still seems rough

agile ember
#

These + 85 ingot

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What do you think

tidal sedge
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It's worth trying.

brisk surge
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maybe doable if you know what to do, but the recommendation is to watch a video first

tidal sedge
#

Do you know the stage mechanics and the boss mechanics? (Boat thingy)

agile ember
#

Oki I’ll see. Any recommendations?

tidal sedge
#

Pard

willow sun
#

@acoustic slate
first image is with 1000 accounts instead of 100 (weighted plotting takes way too much processing power to do more)
second image is with 50,000,000 accounts and no weighted plotting at all, only the average (my coding software can't handle any more accounts)

acoustic slate
willow sun
#

wait fuck

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i jsut realized

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did you mean offrate limited as in only the 1x ones?

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or 1x and 5x

acoustic slate
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It’s fine bro

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I was just curious about any, and what the formula would look like

willow sun
#

well alright

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this is for all limited off-rates though, so 3 5x offrate and 5 1x offrate

brisk surge
#

mathematically correct gambling

agile ember
#

Also I only got 50 ingots from robbing cannot. Anyone know why? Thought I was getting like 120

willow sun
#

did you use wisadel to kill cannot?

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that's usually the main culprit

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@agile ember mb forgot to reply

agile ember
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Does that not count?

willow sun
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and it cancels his hp gate summoning animations

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so the lost hovercrafts he's supposed to spawn don't actually spawn

agile ember
#

fuck

glass monolith
willow sun
#

happens BreezeHappy

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i made the same mistake my first time

glass monolith
willow sun
#

youd expect the boss that runs through your ops to have cc immunity of some kind

agile ember
#

Bruh what a joke lol

agile ember
#

Also do I use silence how pard uses eyjalt?

narrow pendant
#

U use qui for s1

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With aspd its a permabind

brisk surge
#

shes cute

agile ember
glass monolith
#

"How much"

Yes

agile ember
#

nvm I died

willow sun
brisk surge
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unlucky

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alright time for

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3rd nap of t he day

glass monolith
#

WE will get them next time

brisk surge
#

hopefully this fixes my sleep schedule

willow sun
#

what time is it for you 😭

brisk surge
#

5am

willow sun
#

bru

glass monolith
#

Doubt random powernap fix sleepe schedule. Unless you following one of those "several few hour naps instead long sleep" strats

willow sun
#

yeah nap and sleep at 11 pm

brisk surge
#

yeah you see

willow sun
#

finish doing shit and put your phone out of reach at 10 pm

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thats how i fix my sleep schedule

brisk surge
#

i slept from 2pm to 2 am

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surely

willow sun
#

no i do too

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don't get me wrong

brisk surge
#

if i nap rn ill have enough energy to last the day

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surely

glass monolith
#

My naps only offset sleeps causing me to not sleep again to run out of energy to nap again

willow sun
#

late sleep time

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you'll be fine

brisk surge
#

ill get like

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2 hours in

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boom

willow sun
#

thats just a power nap

brisk surge
#

4 cups of coffee and

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im good

willow sun
#

ok dont drink coffee RedOmegaLul

brisk surge
#

to last till like 8pm maybe

willow sun
#

my sleep schedule is like

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utter dogshit

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i sleep 2 am wake up 8 am, sure, thats ok

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but once the weekend comes i immediately stay up until 10 am and then sleep until 8 pm

brisk surge
#

Yeah that's an issue

willow sun
#

but do NOT have caffeine it will make things 10x worse

brisk surge
#

I blame pv 9

willow sun
#

wtfart RedOmegaLul

brisk surge
#

I see it in my dreams

willow sun
#

nah new 6 op 3* clear in your dreams

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itll come to you like a vision

brisk surge
#

Ex stages

glass monolith
willow sun
#

wow ptsd trigger ExeNaruhodo

brisk surge
#

Where catapult

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And 6 defenders blocking

willow sun
#

hes using fia smh

brisk surge
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And

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And

willow sun
#

wait so like 1-10 how tired are you right now

brisk surge
#

Shaw being a fraud

willow sun
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cause i'm used to 180°ing my sleep schedule every week

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i can try and help ExeNaruhodo

brisk surge
#

I'm napping because I have to play monster hunter later new update

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And it's like tiring

willow sun
#

cooked

brisk surge
#

Also I'm like omega unhealthy

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And anemic

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So

willow sun
#

probably

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partly due to the sleep and caffeine

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ngl

brisk surge
#

But but

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I love coffee

willow sun
#

drink decarf

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thats what i do

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well i dont have to i'd just rather not take any risks

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(i'm caffeine resistant)

limber fox
void terrace
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This is perfect

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With the nian siblings and pitlo, goldenglow and lapalter perfectly cover each others downtimes

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100% uptime on global targeting

void terrace
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Brainless play unlocked

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Also eyja gives them all atk buff, nian siblings give more atk buff. And since there are 3 casters they all get aspd buff

rapid junco
#

Add fire torch to the game

void terrace
#

Also just skadi caus why not

limber fox
rapid junco
#

Nope

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Burn fireworks is a scam

brisk surge
rapid junco
#

No touchy

limber fox
tidal sedge
#

m8-8 to hard 😭 anybody have tips

elder flume
#

Whats your map deploy like

brisk surge
#

why are you awake rain

elder flume
#

Why should i not

brisk surge
#

its like

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7

elder flume
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And you were complaining about eating at 2 am

brisk surge
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ok im mentally insane so

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dont put yourself next to me

elder flume
brisk surge
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i thought that guy needed help

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always drive through strategy chat ask for help and leave

elder flume
#

Canta is pretty good for early

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Lapp throws a bomb at her but when shes done attacking she goes back to camo and avoids bomb

limber fox
rapid junco
#

Wis abuse

elder flume
#

its Mephisto

undone portal
#

Ik this was said earlier in this chat but PV8 is the grinding stage correct?

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By earlier i mean yesterday

somber falcon
#

One of them yeah

scarlet fulcrum
#

Good node to grind yea, for sure

weak gazelle
#

mango and rma yeah

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that cursed mats :ya:

scarlet fulcrum
#

Mango and rma gone in no time indeed

undone portal
#

Ill try attempting PV9

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But if i somehow cant figure out how to beat it then ill stick with 8

weak gazelle
#

even with event map my rma deop rates still shit
12 run to only got 4

willow sun
weak gazelle
willow sun
#

ive gotten like

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20 so far the entire event Sheew

scarlet fulcrum
weak gazelle
#

yeah so ture

weary grotto
quaint nest
#

how do i even defend at the beginning of this stage🥹

brisk surge
#

hi im back

civic bear
#

its a 3 lane map

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3 melees middle

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then just slowly kill the bottom drone row

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then you can deploy more on the highground and kill top row

full terrace
# tidal sedge Pard

Quilon is honestly not that difficult, if you got Devilbane Banner even Nymph can solo him. My Nymph solo-ed him so many times already. The thing about running Logos/Nymph is that you need to micromanage your dps for the boats every single time because both of them do hit aerial target and with giga relics those boats are gone in no time. On the other hand, if you run triple Flingers (Greyy/Rosmontis/Wisadel) they dont target aerial units and are only killing the etc ground enemies while letting the boats pass safely.

full terrace
brisk surge
#

if you have enough atksp wisdael alone can just mog quilion at the end

tidal sedge
#

I did on F6 since it guarantees a TP everytime

full terrace
#

Yah I rob him at F6

tidal sedge
#

PtiloOh Makes sense

full terrace
#

I tried the Ingots squad, it's kinda fun honestly 😂

#

Especially if you got the Rusted Hammer

tidal sedge
full terrace
#

Before picking up Petal at F4, reset the node before it to RT and spend all Ingots

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Then pick up Petal and lose 0 Ingot

full terrace
#

You'll end up at around Lv8~Lv10 Command Level by the time you reach Quilon

#

There is high chance of Lost and Found spawning at F4 no worries

#

The annoying part is to spend Ingots before Petal

tidal sedge
#

Also, Industry Inspirer is a lifesaver.

#

Free Hovercrafts 🥹

full terrace
#

If you want Ingots, run Ingot squad. Every Spine killed gives you 2 Ingots, and if you save the first refresh, you can spend it right before F4 Lost and Found (for Petal) for guaranteed Rogue Trader node, then spend all your Ingots there before picking Petal up.

rapid junco
#

Hi chat what's cooking

full terrace
#

Petal = lost all Ingots instantly

brisk surge
#

putting you in the pot

full terrace
rapid junco
#

Hi arf

steel prairie
#

wait what are you suppose to do in PV-10 ?? kill Lappa ???

#

and is Lappa immune to physical attacks ???

elder flume
#

not immune

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just ninety% dr normally

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win the Carnevale and she will remove the dr for twenty secons

full terrace
sly drift
full terrace
#

Yo @tidal sedge I remember you sending Magallan CCB#3, could you please resend that?

turbid badge
#

tornado gon

hasty spruce
#

mephisto gotta have to suffer more cause what the hell is his poison 💔

narrow pendant
#

It stacks so

full terrace
hasty spruce
elder flume
#

either burst or heal

#

since the poison also stops when Mephisto dies

hasty spruce
#

So basically i just need lings dragon on mephisto

somber falcon
#

only on p2 though

hasty spruce
#

Got it

somber falcon
#

p1 poison stays until it runs out

hasty spruce
#

Whats p1

somber falcon
#

phase

hasty spruce
#

Ohh

full terrace
#

And Lappland

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And whatnots

full terrace
#

Or you can also borrow Reedic

#

Reed the Flame Shadow

#

And then use her S2 on your Bubble

#

Whichever works

#

Shu is better tho

narrow pendant
#

Ling borrows in 2025🥹

hasty spruce
somber falcon
#

just open with lapp then bubble KaltSip

brisk surge
#

you wouldnt get it fredi

narrow pendant
#

Youre cuter

brisk surge
#

nope

narrow pendant
#

And dusk is too, sorry

brisk surge
#

myrtle swimsuit

narrow pendant
#

I have a test in 30 mins

acoustic slate
#

He said the thing buhFlipExplode

narrow pendant
#

Pray for me

brisk surge
#

i said the thing

narrow pendant
#

Dumbass active directory :realmad:

brisk surge
#

i hope you get a good grade

narrow pendant
#

Thanks

rose patrol
#

i get one shotted on cm, do i just use baits?

glass monolith
#

Where is your gravel to counter all equipment headshots coming globally every 25s or so? HellaKek

narrow pendant
#

Wait what

#

How is bro playing this shit

#

Oh wiat

#

Right

glass monolith
#

Also it hits for like 2000 damage, my Quercus survives on 2 digit hp from full

narrow pendant
#

That shitshow is an intermezzi

#

😭

brisk surge
#

yeah idk i use kazemaru to tank

#

and kafka to sleep him

#

every time he does the nuke

#

i sleep him

rose patrol
elder flume
#

Baits r alwaya good

#

Count 30s between each nuke

#

Who is gona abuse arts gear PtiloThonk

upper vapor
#

does anyone know how to defend the left side on pv3? heres my squad

elder flume
#

Do you have Gladiia

upper vapor
#

no i dont

vocal leaf
elder flume
#

Slightly problematic then
Pullers cheese left side
Gladiia > Cliffheart > Rope
E1 Rope will take the longest effort

upper vapor
#

is shaw viable?

elder flume
#

Actually Logos for left side facing up can prob do something

#

Shaw needs E1 S2L7

upper vapor
#

dang okay

elder flume
#

Gona try Logos for a bit

upper vapor
#

the problem is i cannot really block them

#

they 4 hit my saria

#

and my healers cant really keep up

elder flume
#

PV3 is about killing balloons

#

your ops cant die during Carnevale

#

so healers are almost nullified

upper vapor
#

but my saria dies even before the fireworks start

elder flume
#

but to activate Carnevale it does need a few moment yea

#

got a Gravel?

upper vapor
#

yes

full terrace
#

Also I think Shu can stall the boss with Eyja

#

If you got the relics

vocal leaf
#

no, and you know what’s funny i was recruiting healers to replace her and send her to the boat ReedBean

#

i accidentally kill the first boat with logos s3, does it still work if you kill it?

full terrace
#

No unfortunately 🤣🤣

#

Thats why people run triple Flingers

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Coz Greyy and Rosmon dont hit air units

#

So they hit every enemy but the boats

#

I run Eyjaberry+Nightingale and that works wonderfully

#

I mean I send Eyja up on the third boat so Nightingale only has to defend for a little

#

I send Eyja+Ines up on third boat*

#

That way Ines thingy slows Quilon until third boat, and Eyja global heal destroys every ball Quilon summoned

vocal leaf
#

two 6star healers is really expensive tho

full terrace
#

Oh NG took one of my stage-specific slots for that, Hope-wise it didnt charge me extra

#

Just different vouchers

elder flume
vocal leaf
#

i could trust shu, hoe is a must have for me, he’s immortal, but one time everyone die when i used to place eyja in the center tile HellaHands

elder flume
#

@upper vapor
Fang should be equal to Elysium
my Logos does too much so you can use Noir to block if Gravel dies

vocal leaf
#

the boat took her and i was left with no healer then boss summons killed me, i was probably low hp relics too

brisk surge
#

why do you have e0 thorns

elder flume
#

because why not

full terrace
#

Iirc most of Quilon's attacks are Arts

#

Swhy I run Nightingale

elder flume
#

i will E2 him soon due to his new mod tho

full terrace
#

When boat is passing through Eyja tile

#

Nightingale is up

brisk surge
#

i mean same

#

idk i dont see myself using him

full terrace
#

And her res buff keeps everyone alive

brisk surge
#

but mlynar mod though

full terrace
elder flume
#

Mlynar mod is to shill Exualt

brisk surge
#

its actually good by itself too

#

so its a double whammy

glass monolith
elder flume
#

Mizuki is a shifter now RedOmegaLul

brisk surge
#

you

#

your op

vocal leaf
# full terrace When boat is passing through Eyja tile

what’s eyja tile for you? i deploy her there, hoederer doesn’t need to receive her healing, he heals himself for like 10k ExeNaruhodo next time i will try to play 4star healer and grey instead of logos to avoid killing the boat

glass monolith
#

Archetto the Spinach holder DocSmile

elder flume
#

i dont have Mizuki yet

#

i cant say the mod is useful yet too

#

Mizuki does too much damage

brisk surge
#

hey

#

mizuki out rn

#

🚬

#

it would be kinda insane to pull for him though

glass monolith
#

I killed H7-4 with S1M3 Mizuki support SkadiDaijoubu

full terrace
#

When the third boat comes I just let the boat take her HellaKek

#

First and third boat pass through that tile

#

Second boat is one row higher

vocal leaf
#

ah that’s what i was doing but didn’t like having to retreat her, that would increase the cost, but if you let the boat also take ines shouldn’t be a problem

full terrace
#

Yah Ines+Eyja I send them up on third boat. On the 2nd map Ines's thingy slows down Quilon buying you a lot of time to dps while also generating you enough DP to deploy the others.
And Eyja's global healing just removes his DR completely

full terrace
vocal leaf
#

yeah that’s exactly why at the end of this run i didn’t want to retreat her HellaHands

full terrace
#

Deploy a Medic like Purestream (mine is Nightingale) until the first boat comes

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When first boat passes through that tile, retreat Purestream

#

Then deploy Eyja

#

She will stay there until third boat comes

#

Second boat is one row higher, it wont take her

#

Third boat will take her but thats ideal so just let it

#

That way Eyja is only 1 deploy and doesnt have significant increased DP cost HellaKek

vocal leaf
#

yeah that sounds better ExeNaruhodo shu can be the there to help the lower rank healer, i like to pick her for when eyja active is on cooldown

#

i prefer shu over ng in this case because i want to extra blocker

full terrace
#

Shu is nice yeah but I usually send her up on first boat together with Wis and Ela so

#

Her DR is really really nice for tanking Quilon on 2nd map in case I dont get enough damage relics

#

I found that to be super nice

loud bluff
#

Umm I'm having trouble with PV6 as characters are mostly Elite 0 L50, any tips?

#

Is there any support I can borrow which would help at all or am I screwed due to the gap in levels

brisk surge
#

pv6 is uh

#

i made a guide somewhere

#

hold up

brisk surge
#

the only difference is stalling the car

#

might take more effort

brisk surge
#

i wonder if he beat it

loud bluff
#

I haven't, currently still at work. Thanks for uploading the guide, will try it out when free and let you know the results!!!

celest bluff
#

Which one should be prioritize chat

brisk surge
#

Rma

glass monolith
#

I would farm both for stockpiling, but mainly RMA because it is trash drop rate and you won't have better outside events

dapper hedge
full terrace
#

Bring Eyjaberry to 2nd map 👍

glass monolith
full terrace
#

Why does Quilon page got error in wiki.gg

#

Iirc I read about "each Aggini of Nila gives 20% Physical and Arts damage reduction" or somethin

dapper hedge
#

Try this

glass monolith
#

Try tomini dev or prts DocSmile

full terrace
#

Ah it's not on Quilon page, Aggini of Nila is a stage mechanic it has its own page

#

Also I didnt read this before but apparently if you let it disappears your unit with highest atk power eats a -50% atk what the hell

distant pumice
#

this is pretty much the setup for pv-10 with lazy charge right

full terrace
#

Not exactly

#

Eh.. it depends on your setup anyway

distant pumice
full terrace
#

Not your ops

#

What I mean is uh

#

How do I say this 😂