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Its beautiful π₯Ή
oh, phase 1?
i assumed you'd use it on phase 2 since you're much more pressed for time there
Phase 1 dead to mother-daughter combo
then again, you have some big dps ops already
Does fire line get affected by both operators and enemies?
i had to cope with amiya as my one and only nuke op for years so im pretty familiar with her decency
only enemies
anyways, there are only 3 ranged trucks on the stage, 2 come in the bottom left and one on the top right
so amiya s3 actually works out pretty well here if you put her in the top right
she should more or less be able to handle it on her own so you can focus on the 2 ranged cars and the other melee cars on the left side
id also recommend the slow fireworks to slow the trucks down a bunch
you can also simply bait the trucks with a medic
plop them down somewhere alone and let them chill
you've kinda got to do that anyways unless you can kill them through the damage resist
they attack slow so baiting their shots wont really do much
eh, it's still less hassle 
even hibiscus can just bing chilling on left side while everyone else focuses on melee truck
same for right side if you have an extra slot
they've only got an attack range of 2.2, it's not that hard to just stay away from them
mfw it matters in PV-8 lowstep bc the aspd is synced to snuff out the flame
sounds like a skill issue ngl
well it's more needed for newbies since they likely need the fireworks effect
nah i said lowstep so
they only put out the fuse if they shoot ops near the fuse
so just dont put ops in their range and it's no issue
enemyknights 3step doesn't have good options
need to bait the cars so they all group up at the fireworks spot
Needs Nightmare rip
remind me to never tell you that there have been plenty of missions where i unironically used 4 vanguards at a time without nicheknights
i kinda just threw this together real quick but this team worked pretty well
swire is just there for moral support
i thought id need utage and gummy but podenco, click, and lappland ended up doing more damage than i thought

I actually managed to work that stage through
oh, neat
Btw, how often events happen?
whenever the previous one ends more or less
although there's usually at least a few days of downtime between them
Damn. So there's little to no time to collect recourses for ops
event gives shit ton of resources
yeah, they usually help quite a bit
and plenty of events either dont have farming or allow you to farm any stage
hey guys i have a problem with PV-3. So i have Mountain E1 and i managed to get spot to lvl 55 E1 too and did his simulation.
I also have Kloo Alt at lvl 30 something. Tequila is at E2...
the fire jugglers i assume?
yeap

Just use pushers and wandering medics
in case you dont know, if you can survive until the carnivale starts, your ops become unable to die until carnivale ends
damn better luck next time π
10 more days to go !!!
as long as you keep destroying the balloons with snipers, your ops will be immortal
so make surviving until that point your goal
your mountain looks like e0 here, is the picture outdated?
yeap sorry. I managed to E1 mountain on the same day.
did anyone else get promoted?
Also, i have used 4* besieger who has ability to see invisible enemies
And Horn 1s trivializes all stages basically.
hmm i'll try to see...
you wont really be able to make use of those strategies here
btw, id recommend leveling up kroos soon
she's basically the best non-6* sniper before e2
man, your ops are extremely low level
ill see what i can pull together, but there's a good chance you'll just have to wait a bit to level up some characters
getting tequila to e2 early wasnt the worst investment though, he does a lot of damage when used properly
which kroos?
base kroos
5* kroos is great too
base kroos is cheaper which is why i specifically mentioned her
Switch tequila to skill 2
i can farm for some materials to lvl them up.
But approximately to what level? should i be aiming for at least.
e1 max is generally a comfy spot for me, but im not really sure where else below that on a budget
e1 lvl 1 at least gives them access to their second skill and passive if they have one though
ok, that wasnt actually so bad
i couldnt make an exact copy of your team but my spot and lancet were able to tank the left side long enough for the fireworks to go off
i ended up doing something like this
my mountain is e1 lvl 80 and idk what level your mountain is, but he was able to tank just fine too once his skill 2 turned on
you just need two snipers to destroy the balloons so whoever is blocking the fire jugglers doesnt die
okie...well time to level up the ops mostly, because most of them are E1 except for the 2*...
you can place tequila wherever
e1 max is enough for most content, for the record
as long as you have one or two e2 6*s to nuke particularly strong enemies, you can make do with e1 max lvl for most of the game
i shall go do that then. Funny enough i also have Vulpi now...
oh btw when i do get my ticket to instantly lvl 80 an ops, who should i use it on?
its from the log in days yeap that one.
hi Rainchan
and Teq is pretty good for it
i'm here to ask stupid questions again as a newbie
oh im known
oh, is that what it does?
People tell you to get tequila cause he's your damage carry till you get someone better. Use it on him
i kinda assumed it went from e0 lvl 1 to e2 max
it just makes E2 5star into max level
i was told the same thing with silverash ngl...
he's pretty good too
You can't instant e2 silverash without paying money
arguably a little more flexible than tequila since he has 2 block though
Maxed out tequila is free
but in terms of burst damage, tequila is pretty similar
you cant use it on silverash tho. it's a 5* only ticket
oh yeah ik, but i'm just saying thats what i was told...
i kind of just have to work on leveling up my ops now...and pray to God.
id get a medic leveled up sooner rather than later
silence, if i had to pick one
she gets a drone on her skill 2 that can be placed anywhere on the map
they dont have an e1 pusher yet
oh
is that max operator ticket also gives their module?
didnt wanna force them to spend resources just for this stage
no
just level
yeah dont
So I'm tryna clear all the annihilation missions I could play, (currently lvl 21), which operators should I focus on to help me clear these stages π₯π₯π₯
I can E1 Shaw soon >.>
(i literally only got back to playing AK 3 days ago cuz i heard virtuosa)
save resources for more versatile ops
i dont think you really need one for the rest of the normal stages so there's no rush right now
push and pull are niche
Have you done anni 1 and 2?
having one pusher and puller at e1 is great to have once you have a decent team leveled up though
they're niche, but irreplaceable in it
what were their names again
Chernobog and lungmen outskirts
cherno im at 7/8
lungment outskirts, 5/8
very niche, you dont really need them for any 1 stage. they are just marginally more useful in those stages
the bottom two
E1 your base slaves. E2 thorns is probably the best unit in your roster for clearing annihilations since they want a lot of constant damage
gummy kroos gravel
havent gotten far in lungmen downtown yet
chernobog, 7/8 so im close
P sure downtown is 3
wdym by "base slaves"
base workers
they meant indentured employees
Units that work in your base to produce resources
ops that are only used for their base skills
ah
base is great source for passive income
which ones are those again im unfamiliar
/baseskills command in #bot-spam
It's the only source of passive income
login rewards 
cant beat ED2 in IS5 for the life of me. Could anyone help?
you arent getting universal lmd directly from HG like the rest of us?
also what would be the benefit to e1 those operators
it unlocks their base skills
some dont need to be leveled up at all though, like haze
i'll just wait till i can get this for Tequila...then slowly invest in leveling up the other ops...
I brute forced it the first time I played it, but true damage or stalling theresis seems to be the play
Yeh just do chernobog and outskirts first
Those are for new players by design
what's your ops? Also D15?
Haze doesn't benefit in base from e1
imma just borrow my friend's kalsit for good measure
oh one other question, since i have Kloos alt. Would it also benefit me to lvl her up? or just stick to base Kloos
it makes haze happier, thus making her a more efficient worker
it's absolutely essential for base efficiency
kroos alt is great too
i use her myself from time to time
Are we just giving bad advice to the new player that's pinched on resources?
i was joking, ceroas
Jokes are funny
i thought i made it pretty clear
3 ways of dealing with Theresis: True Damage, Teleport (Shu), Shift. True Damage is the most efficient method, here is an example clear #strategy message
if you stall long enough the stage will time out, just stall the mobs and finish him quickly.
~.~ i wish there was some kind of mentor program...so i'd only have to bug one person for this and not a lot of people for it......
anyways, leveling her up seems like a solid enough idea, given your current roster
Stall was the wrong word. I know you can do shu cheese to keep him away from his sister or use a shifter
both krooses i mean
trust me, we don't mind.
alternatively, you could consider upgrading april as your second sniper for now
.> my mountain is nearly...E1 50...(dear god i hope that helps)
Then i'll wait for that thing for Tequila.
she's a little weaker, but her skill 2 makes her invisible
and that's super useful on quite a few stages
you can ask for someone here if you trust them, don't ask me I'm just a random player 
only d2 and wish i could show my roster but krooster didnt update my stuff yet
she's saved my ass plenty of times
April propaganda in the walter game, approved!!
i can already think of a handful of early stages with pre-spawns where april would be incredibly useful
oh i just pretty much assume, most people in this game know more than i do and most likely know what they're doing than i do.
this ak server don't have mentor / senpai role so we don't know who qualified
no need for krooster, just show your fav Ops, ED2 isn't that picky. We're looking for stallers, true damage dealers, necrosis dealer and decent HPS healers.
can i just post here?
sure
just remember to take any advice with a grain of salt
people's perception of things can vary wildly depending on how they play the game
having a mentor role would not be a wise idea
agreed, sometimes we have biased opinions, chat keeps people in check from weird recommendations.

ill be in vc if someone wants to watch me suffer xD
question, >.> as a newbie should i be aiming for crownslayer? or are they more just good for collection...
No kal is kinda unlucky
crownslayer's pretty stinky
although i suppose she'd be decent in the early game occasionally?
not to make fun or anything, but skill issue.
i mean, even red s1 was enough to kill ranged enemies early in the game
Get them and their tokens since they turn into gold certs when the event reruns. Don't put any resources into raising her
idt shes for early but i can test her a bit ig
ik lol xD
definitely not worth it in the long run though
only D2 right..?
can't you just boom it..?
ur ops is more than enuf for D2 
okay...here's an idea >.> is there someone ideally i can borrow? to let me just finish the stages to PV-5?
Wis or virt will beat most of the stages
then i just choose the wrong ops plus rng fucking me xD
i can send you my ID if you'd like, although i dont really have any meta ops at e2 so im not sure how much help id be
run a blueprint squad
why is that?
Blueprint is broken
can change every node into combat / emergency
more artifact & voucher
suuurely
actually i guess kaltsit is pretty much perfect for this event
and i guess, Vanguard, Sniper and Specialist for starter?
dear god.. i hope this qworks
here
kaltsit should do you good for the upcoming trucks
I use sniper caster defender
point NTR S3 on theresis with Skadi buff, should be enough for phase 2? Nvm, can't be blocked. Hmm
if u have build beanstalk then sure
usually i run with caster defender sniper
just remember to put tequila in the squad so you can use e2 supports
wis / spot / steward or lava
yes
might lvl gummy and use her
wait, I'm blind, you have Vina
click is indeed leveld
yeah S3M3
yeah that's enough, so what's the issue, is she dying too soon?
ye
try blueprint squad 
am doing that rn
also eyja S1 should keep her alive no?
Do you guys recommend Burn or Slow for PV 10?
I can show you my team comp
unless you plan on killing phase 1 with nothing but burn, slow is probably a little better
I used the tenacity buff
although the fodder isnt really that big of a deal so cold might be better than those
im personally not a fan of the tenacity buff since it involves damaging my squishy ops
although i guess you could limit it to some tankier guards or something
Just do a triple borrow like this. It's good until around d12~d13
D14 and above they cannot kill the F1 Spine, low diff they are more than enough
really?
Yes
Do you need click for that?
Tin Man and Wis are enough to kill the Spines in both Safety Inspection and Bad Neighbor
F2 usually Wis is upgraded and she will shoot down every Spine you see
Beanstalk for lanehold
How many ops get retreated after the Carnivale ends? And which ones?
You can also just do a Sniper/Caster Squad then go with the Lamp route than BluePrint with Talons
Tho ones who supposedly "die"
i hate you google
The ones that would have died if the buff wasn't active
yeah, if your ops hit 1 hp then they dont die, but they'll die after the carnivale ends
you can tell who dies because they'll have a smoke thing to the left of them
Can one do safety Inspection spine on D15 with them? OOps wrong reply
Cannot
yeah figures
Tin Man + Wis are not enough to kill F1 Spines unless your Wis is upgraded
But anyway, I usually just focus on Encounter nodes on F1
I've been playing with gummy squard on D15 for that reason. Coping to get Tin man early.
For the Doodle/Talon/Lamp
And Shrivels
Then go to RT and upgrade Wis
F2 is when the real play starts
No Tin Man early is painful on the Toil I find, he is always my priority especially if you are doing Shrivel run
Encounters are nice, but if you squeeze 4 fights + 2 encounters on F1, you get higher chances for E2 walter and overall a busted run.
so i should pick the talon instead of the doodle?
Lamp > Doodle but Doodle still offers various better benefits in Encounters
Talon > everything yes
Emergency nodes are just better than Wish Fulfilled
That, if you are able to clear Emergency nodes btw
on higher diff mabye, but you can rush to the ending on D2 just fine. Pick lamp, it is fast and OP
what exactly does the lamp do?
if you're going for win rate wish is better since you don't risk exploding
Makes you more Wish Fulfilled
= relic
Emergency also gives relic, plus voucher plus ingot plus thoughts
Lamp guaratentee you Hand of Rumble + King's relic on very early floors with Wis start
And if you got the Duck and co, you get +1 more relic
Tend to be better since you get significantly stronger relics
So generally Emergency > Wish Fulfilled
I seee
check IS-station pins for a full writeup. But tldr, guaranteed busted relics.
whats a dosooles holiday?
name of event
Took quite a bit of tinkering, but Lunacub S1 was key
damn, lunacub sweep
Last time i saw lunacub usage was lone trail
ive used her a handful of times but i tended to just keep her skill off
Wait im confused with the new event, should I let my operators be hit by the fireworks?
depends on what kind of fireworks
and
ur gameplay..?
it's up to you
yeah, i personally found the aspd buff more annoying to deal with than it's worth outside of stages with balloons
the other 3 are for enemies only
umm chat
i have several major skill issue π
it's been
a whole week i think
i tried to save that dum civi
well there's your problem

who, whatsfor
Freaky Charge... If I'm understanding correctly, the colored area is where the buffs apply?
yes
so the buff's drawback is basically damaging you?
R6S guy, he's famous for "accidentally" killing hostages
that and the enemy also gets tenacity
do you have him...
technically, that has nothing to do with the buff, it's just the fireworks being shot at your operators point blank
but yeah, it's suppose to lower their health then make them attack faster i think
What does tenacity do again? It's been nearly 3 years since I last properly played this game lol
in this case, it gives an aspd buff
says in the buff selection screen
it increases based on lost health
that depends, are there bodies in lungmen's sewers?


#strategy message lemme repost:
Borrow Nightingale with Module and put bodies on the orange circled tiles to tank the fireballs, then deploy her cage somewhere up there to tank the remaining lane. Also bring some FRDs to constant bait Talulah's ignitions, she burns your ops once every 30 secs.
Gravel+Jaye+Yato(2 Star) combo works
Gravel+Jaye ~> Gravel+Yato ~> Gravel+Jaye ~> Gravel+Yato
If you have Mlynar, he has +1 Taunt and will always take one ignition (if he isnt ignited)
π
thanks lord
whos on that orange circle
im sorry but did u even read the message
Your laneholders or anyone really

brain not braining my bad
And ignition doesnt hurt them that much
In that positioning for example, both of them are in Nightingale's healing range offskill
And so they benefit off her Talent that increases res
That, before her S3 is active
When her S3 is active, she basically just deletes the Arts damage
does
tank count as laneholder..?
Preferably ones that can kill the etc stuff
its based off fireworks hp
Holy fuck, the damage window against Lappland is too tight
That's like 10 seconds
In 2x
The issue for me is either enemies leaking during Phase 2 due to being overwhelmed or just.....Lappland
Actually just Lappland
Really wanted to farm PV 10, but I guess I don't have the DPS
Or healing?
Stalling
Try taking the slow firework
Sure did, but the Lappland damage issue still stands
im cooked on second phase
no ng skill

the second fireball*
You stall until her skill is up again
Talulah walks quite a bit, thats plenty time
Bring bodies and throw them at her
Or
You can retreat Nightingale when the fireballs phase is over
Then redeploy her
ooh yeah
kk
Idr remember her hitting that hard
Try this placement and see how it goes
Have ines leave a dagger under lapp so she has line of sight
wait, is it really?
it is
i suppose i should have realized that once i realized that the burn and cold fireworks are incredibly misleading
i just assumed that the tenacity effect would work like every other similar effect in the game
and, by extension, that the burn and cold ones would work like that since that's what i thought it did
saria thought he looked a little cold
she doesnt hit too hard as long as she's hitting decently tanky ops
squishier ops will really feel her damage though
Lapp is the tankiest one there 
prob didnt deploy bait in time
is that nymph to the left of perfumer?
Nymph wouldn't reach lapp on top there 
Oh wait yeah 2 not 3
yeah, it looks farther than it really is
Hello, does team building matter in the early game? Im quite new so i dont wanna mess up by wasting mats early on. Ive only done 20 pulls, still have both 5 star selectors, and only at tr-5 of episode 0
id say it's more the kind of units rather than the specific characters you use
As in the character roles? Like vanguard and that?
that's less true later on, but you'll also have a much wider variety of characters you can use
yeah, basically
ofc team building matters
early on you'll mostly rely on the basic classes handed to you, so you'll build around them
was not expecting brody to oneshot everyone π
once you have a handy roster of 6*s they'll start fulfilling their own wacky roles, at that point it's more convenient to talk abt roles than classes
Phase 1 be like - Block boss - Get put into coffin
Need to kill him without blocking
either way you need to know who you're bringing to the stage and what for
brochaco 2 shotted lings dragons 
only bc they're fat
Alright, so based off this. Its better to invest the starter characters youre given rather than the 6 stars right off the bat?
near the release of ch7 pat oneshots almost everything he touches lol
certain 6*s are worth focusing on
but like, yh don't go all in on them
If you built stuff he doesn't oneshot - You definitely have ways to kill him or you doing something wrong 
if your defenders can't tank and your medics can't heal you'll struggle all the same
technically eun doesn't get oneshot
i got too cocky since i just promoted lappland 6 to e2
(she gets twoshot)
simply consider what swire would do
bribe him enough money to not kill you
Alright, i only got two 6 stars so far so i guess ill try to make do with my other units
pat but angrier
how does one go about doing that
how even
Is it possible to do pv 6 without using the fireworks, defending it is just tedious for me
even if you had noir corne with a hospital worth of medics backing him up, the minimum dmg would catch up
its doneee
im winnnn
thankyouuu

man fuck this, how much currency given in pv10
9999s bro
Mint (or whatever was that vanguard name) be like 
how do you stall pat for 9999s without killing him
is there a skill that stops a melee operator for attacking forever?
uh
cursed cutter or gladiia tech ig
holy shit wait
cuora 
not that fraud lmao
i did it in 2k23
and skadi alter s2 maybe?
it did take 3 hours of skill cycling but thats that
Hung fueling by Aura of frauddad 
damn
hoshi at max only has 490 atk
pat has 500 base def
based on sanity
so 21
you could also get bryophyta to face ela but not patriot
oh, and shu's field
does it stack with silence alter's damage reduction?
why do you need defense again
nvm, it doesnt
P2 is shit atk
it's to make ela tanky enough to survive patriot for 9999s
without manually spamming skills for 3 hours straight
Gladdia stack with Silence alter stacks with Stainless S3 
i mean surviving it with my same strat but Ela instead of Hung should be sufficient
doesnt he oneshot her by a fair amount?
fireworks is to remove invis and reduction
feel free to not utilize it if you can
not defending it will also take longer since you'll need to wait for everyone to walk to the blue box
but yeah, it shouldnt be that hard to just ignore the fireworks and put everyone at the chokepoint
2hondo def
1hondo def Shining
36% Stainless
16% sanctuary Quercus
CE
Shining shield
NG shield
surely thats overkill
full afk
oh Honeyberry also
Medicmiya
What are the skills
their standard ones
So Ascalon S2, Archetto S2, Narantuya S3?
ye
archetto standard skill is her s2?
his is e1
I believe it is between S2 and S3 based on situation
And well S3 is less clicks so guess which one #help will select 
it's only for mobs there anyways
last i used archetto was a year ago 
CC9 Archetto S3 ptsd flashbacks
i remember looking up which skill she used
Who is new IS module on CN? Archetto and Mizuki?
Yea, tho it would be 5-6 months away no?
not melee but Fia can stop attacking ig
Well it will worth a wait surely 
albeit takes fifty hours now instead of 1 hour
Time to inhale WB event and push Patriot on ranged tile to melee Lin 
i think if ground enemies path a certain way and or get pushed they can block ranged units but i havent tested that fully yet just had it happen to me a couple times
hello I need help with pv-10, this is what the stage looks like and here are my units
gona farm it or focus first clear first?
fireworks placement is part of the problem imo
Wasn't fluid like very low wanted material or whatever it has?
it really only attacks your blocker
ye its low but still better than story stage
if you dont care about farming it then Ling support should suffice
I just wanna try and clear it with my team and no support lol
I'm having trouble surviving her second phase with the second carneval
dying to dancer or dying to Lapp
If she phase 2 while Carnaval ongoing she won't speed up Carnaval start so you won't get into "Cars arrive when Carnaval is not piece of shit design" 
guys which fireworks did you use for the last stage ?
dancers
I used slow one but it didn't make much difference as i was killing majority of stuff near red boxes 
and left side kinda on life support but I'll try putting logos on left
sheesh
must be a skill issue for me frfr
Recommended level is "lie" in this game
Guys
I have a question
So kafka S1 can't hit invis but the summon of Blacknight can. What's the difference btw (yes this is sleepknights without blemi, point and laugh)
Ask HG of what they are cooking
any cmd to see previous en banner ?
None sadly. You can use the Gamepress? Or wiki page to know tho
Are there any profit in seeing it?
No.
We both know "no", i am just curious for what gain he need that info. Also in theory he can just find announce of banner in #game-news
You are welcome. You seem skilled, keep it up. Also I just tested Civilight Eterna, she works for the fireballs as well.
Did it, thanks
I can finally farm this stage
can some one help me beating LS-4 cus im tryig it for hours and cant seem to get it
Oh yeah i did something like that in my own clear
Tho i went overkill and put logos too
God i hate fireballs
can some one tell me how can i play this map

i mean like just get to play this map
True Damage > Teleport (Shu) > Shift. Here is an example clear #strategy message
F2 prophecy, then simply craft it
Nvm
oh okay thanks
Nvm (2) its the alt i thought its a diff stage

np 
Theresis has massive DR (90% iirc) when he is close to his sister. This DR will be lowered the further away he is from his sister (down to 35% iirc).
Shu's teleportation after Phase 1 ended (right before Phase 2) will just drag him away from his sister to maximum distance, this lowers his DR to 35% instantly
Gladiia on the Shift tile below plus the Shift strength Inspirer/Relic will let you shift him by a few tiles, this would reduce his DR but not all the way down to 35% unless you use multiple shifters to shift him further away
woah that's new
can some one help me beating LS-4 cus im tryig it for hours and cant seem to get it
True Damage is most consistent way, that just ignores his DR completely, just beat him up
this map is a bit different from the one you're talking about
but i think we can still use those strat 
show your ops
Thats just the expansion alter map, Theresis is still the same.
is this misson for lappy alter bugged
cause i did this I even did it with her S3 and still dint compleate
@pure orchid guess what
can i send videos in here ill show u it wont work
My alt just got Top Operator tag thrice in a row 
Saria, Ifrit, Weedy respectively
go ahead
And also offrated a Gnosis in this banner
Your alt strikes again smh
Freaking alt is ready for cc instantly
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s2 means skill 2?
yes
ah
Unfortunate Ceylon deploy
Any quick/cheese strat for this? Challenge mode
let the planks break
did you see any passing through planks? 
Hmm, I didnβt actually look to notice
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default skill =/= equipped skill
you can leave some up
Always remember to reassign your operators, only modules get updated
the idea is to just let the rocks fall to the first hole they pass
omg thans i finally did it
To whoever recommend me to use valarqvin
I will say that she's decent
Any other good elemental damage dealer?
Please
the fireworks launcher
Read this #strategy message
Firewhistle?
Hi chat 
the event firework launcher
Ofc
Holy ur the GOAT
Best of luck there
Doing this soullink makes me realized how good Narantuya Subrole is

If you look at my team
Tell me what I lacked
I was lucky enough to even got the chance to use Cuora and Cantabile
Especially in the early stage where I don't have that many ops
What u lack? Mods
But I need a good elemental damage dealer now
Thats what
U dont need an elem dmg
Oh wait
Youre that one guy
Nvm
It's a soul link
Yeah
She's good
But there's probably someone better
I'm not complaining
Even without elemental damage I still have Wis and the other
Honestly, people dont really care about your "soullink" niche or whatever it is called. I dont really understand that "Tell me what I lack" when you restrict yourself with your niche, the answer you get will be generic/meta anyway why bother?
oh i remember this when you mentioned valarqvin before 
so this is why
necrosis application there's like 5 units in the game i think
logos virtuosa valarqvin ebenholz and philae
wheres my phonor and nymph smh
they dont exist
called out
you dont exist bozo
damn i guess i really dont
be nice
No
i guess you exist a little...
Be a hater
sigh
This is why I like you ππ
Do I exist a lot for you? 
Oh yea correct
I forgot Ebenholz has elemental damage in his module
Thanks for reminding me
Appreciate it
you also got nymph and phonor as they said aswell 
you said val is good, do you wanna try out a maxed one?
her mod is kinda nice
she's pretty good for a 5*
Sure
Nymph and Phonor is available for me
I just need to pull them
thing is i wouldnt recommend her to most people but since you are doing a lil challenge i dont see why not
i sent you my id
all this and not a single mention of Diamante 
I like my team for now
It's a little boring when Wis is in there
So I just swapped her out with kroos or Narantuya
use W
narantuya soo good 
She's kinda rare
Like non of my friend group have her
Yeah this challenge makes me appreciate her subrole and her range
only 200 to spark rn π€
just spark
like how i sparked rosmontis
i do love her so its a win for me
IS gaming
I've waste my pulls on Vina
About 100 pulls I think
No luck
maybe... 
I do got second Narantuya
Are u really gonna make me say it out loud
Also slr i wet my body with water soap and then water again
Hi @regal frost
You still alive?
@pure orchid yo have you watched the 3D 6th anni PV?
Lemme DM you
Oh okay
and the whole livestream...
i watched everything 6th anni related
its so peak...
hai mao rigged the rewards again 
I didnt watch livestream at all, and just read what people summarized at #cn-lounge
Its quite entertaining i must say
More like Exe vs Virt vs Lemuen+Exu π€£
Oh what lmao
I thought virt was with exe
And also i just remembered theyre cousins not siblings
Nope he pointed his gun at her at first, then shift it to Lemuen
Exe has it tough
π€£
π
I didnt really read Guide Ahead but I do know Mostima is the best gurl
Let's stop here before the mod bonks us



ayo
Can anyone hop on VC and help me clear the event?
wet noodles
@low moon btw, send roster when asking for stage clear help
we are in a permanent state of wet. and yes what ploof said
wet
ploof π
my keyboard did not key
i can hop on VC but that is no guarantee that you are clearing the event 
So uh.. from the Andoain (600 def, 38k HP) showcase, Lemuen S3 does 7x7987 damage. Her total damage seems to be around 60k
That looks like a Degen powercreep
discord crashed, justed joined again
Wisadel does around 18k per shot x 6 ammo, she has higher total damage still. I did a quick test on EX-8 Andoain Normal Mode just like the showcase and she 3 shots him (assuming no dodge)
can you hear me on call?
ye we can
your voice is a bit low but i turned up the volume a bit
so it should be good
that would be nice yeah
yeah that works
Use vc chat probably
firework doesn't matter too much
I'm seeing 4 people trying to help one person clear the event, how dramatic is the situation?
Death
not very i think we're just bored
full e2 team
Lmao it was like 4 people muted kind of hilarious
go and play some IS
im just chilling
true
Chill with me then
wtfart
did bro really just spam that in every channel
as if devs are on discord
TRUE
any good strat for this stage? 
Emergency Kaz Falls you just avoid it in the future
do you have all these saved or what?
Nah I'm just recording some stages from time to time, ones that I think people will struggle on
If I find it fun, people will struggle
you like watching people struggle or
I'm not sadistic π
I just love helping people really
Lemuen is around 60k total damage (Andoain Lv1 with 38k HP 600 Def). Took her 5 hits to kill.
I've been trying it multiple times with walter to figure out the timings, and so far:
* start with gummy
* S2 gives more consistent results
* let the speedy thing go, before walter deploy
* tin man can save walter from 1 necrosis proc, but if you're doing without a healer, gotta be precise and lucky with crits. Also, walter can survive 1 proc. Use your 3rd character to stall the slug things for walter to clear out incoming mobs (2-3 hits is enough).
Wisadel is around 18k per shot x 6 ammo. Took her 3 shots to kill.
@teal moon
btw, I'd adjust your team a bit first. You're raising wrong op
is londinium cannon true aoe?
Ofc
Silence->Hibiscus
Lappland->Cardigan
Lancet->Kroos2 (Invitation to wine side story)
shaw is flex spot, I'd use myrtle once you get her from recruit
Should I maybe grind for Kroos2 instead for now?
what you need are some levels, I'm trying to clear pv3 with what you have but I doubt you can do later stages
Oh, would it be a good idea to farm the earlier stages for the event currency and buy the resources from the shop?
Did they tell us the SP cost of S3? Also, they don't have to be in her range, she can do it from anywhere :0, and other Laterano can apply the mark for her? Global walter?
Someone translated it
I count the DP for the charge up. It seems to be around 30~35 secs charge
Which is a good cycle
wheelchair meta haha
Nah she wont outperform Wisadel I dont think
She is just a ranged Degen more or less
Walter is probably better since she'll overshoot and be left without buttets. Also, her talents don't help her off-skill performance. Survival is high tho, since she can sit comfy at the back.
I'd recommend raising your ops a bit, the ones you have seems underleveled and not fit for the job
Around what level?
obv farm the event stages for even currency
at least e1 lv30
Alright got it tysm
you can clear the event by borrowing the ops but you won't be able to auto the stages
Wisadel still has higher total damage. 18k x 6 shots = 108k total damage still.
She is just slow
Her main appeal for me is her Revenant Shadows anyway
And they give her Camouflage
DPH matters more me think, also yeah the rest of her surivival stuff is unmatched.
Yeah I'm trying to do it without supports so I can farm the levels
just clear the stages to get the first time reward, raise your ops and then redo the stage with the built ops
DPH matters you go play Ray. Why are you comparing her DPH to Wis anyway, she already lost to Ray in the first place smh
So I try to go as far as possible with support first?
I'd recommend spot, popukar, kroos, ansel and stewardt as main 3* to raise
Would my new squad be something like this?
nice squad for now, you can even do chip stages since we'll have an extra 1000 sanity after clearing the shop
What're chip stages?
I'd remove Shaw since he won't see use in the avg stage
these ones, it will gives to promote the ops
Could I do cardigan for shaw
for example pr-a-1 gives tier 1 chips for elite 1 while pr-a-2 gives tier 2 chips for elite 2
you already have saria, no need to raise another medic defender
Who could I replacr for shaw
you could use popukar for now imo
Alright
All I'm seeing is that she's a faster typhon S3 that doesn't suffer from extra mobs. We're on the same page, her use case is completely different from walter, closer to degen, except she's ranged. Her actual niche if I understand the talent correctly, is marking enemies that never even got into her range through other units and applying the nuke on them. Usually an elite. I just don't see the use case yet, but Ray comparison seems situational.
Uh.. I wouldnt count on her Talent while she asks for other Laterano units, but yeah when the condition is right it can be an asset. Ray has around 60k total damage, which is more or less hers. The thing is that, hers is AoE while Ray is stuck on ST but with Bind and faster cycle when she kills something. I agree with her comparison with Typhon tho, that seems to be appropriate.
he didnt get to do the funny stage
i think it's fine if we leave it for later ig that's also what he wanted i think 
regarding Lemuen i have a strange feeling that s2 is her main skill. idk 12k dph map wide range sounds stupid as hell and it's not like she shoots that slow
once people were calculating s3 damage i realized it probably wasnt gonna be meta
a bit too gimmicky imo
Does lappy boss teleport slower if she attacks?
closer to centre receive higher damage, AOE is for mobs, DPH falls with multiple elites further apart, so still kinda single targetish. Also typhon has slow. Maybe she's not that broken. That's a good thing.
combo with fia grandad seems cool tho
I dont understand why her teleport is so inconsistent
you can warf lemuen s3 for double damage
you can run laterano comp for double damage on top
its done in a 5s window
meanwhile wisadel takes forever with +0 aspd
and has global range on a marked enemy
the warf combo does seem quite appealing too but is the total damage appealing enough to be using over degen where it matters
while lemuen s3 seems to me to be a bit more gimmicky
lemuen is more safely spammable
once the enemy is locked you can chill and spam
while degen either nuked or dies after 1 skill
global degen seems spammable
if the enemy is relevant enough
mhmm right global range 
the question is, can she hit air
(with S3)
because that would be too logical
Which module would be more recommended for NearlRK? more general use/IS if that narrows!
Well the Andoain showcase by HG only has him as the target so I'm sure thats the "center damage".
That is exactly my dilemma tho, if her dps isnt meta-shifting I'm not sure if I will be using her a lot (just like how I bench Degen most of the time), but I really want her gimmicks so I'd still pull for her, like the instant burst is really really good for stages like Sentinel, also we dont know if her S3 is Atk scale or Atk up yet, if it's Atk scale then her damage ceiling is going to be high.
i wanted to mention sentinel but i had doubts if she would be able to lock on to even get a chance to actually burst him
like she might be better than degen for burst maybe but that lock on might be a little too much (time) for cresson
i meant like if the boss is invincible, is he even a valid target for the lock on?
also all this and we dont really know how fast her skills charge
just a reminder she is a deadeye with the 1 sp per hit mod
so she could be better or worse than expected for all we know
her archetype has naturally high atk, so should still be very buffable, but yeah gotta wait to see multipliers
There is still like half a year til she arrives in EN anyway, we'll get the chance to see her showcase in Sentinel map
Also if she does work on Sentinel, I think she will be quite the gamechanger there because you can just run Laterano units and she could burst the boss anywhere, doesnt matter where it teleports to
no more shu shenanigans? 
I didnt use Shu anyway, I setup on both sides
is it actually half a year or 9 months?
Left and right
why do I feel like we are so behind in schedule
we are kinda always 6 months behind or 2 limited events more or less
the buffed version does 8k arts, you have 2 nightingales or what?
Nightingale on right. Left just stand on the seedless tiles
You stand on seeded tiles thats one hit kill
Also grab as many HP relics as possible before you get there
And stack as many HP Foldartals as possible
yeah, I guess if you have enough tanky relics 2 sides is possible, otherwise full left on normal and right + shu speed burst on the other. But takes a lot of work.
I already done a couple leakless Sentinel like this #strategy message and #strategy message I know my strat will 100% work dw
S3 nymph?
Errr S2
not enough time, gotcha. Still pretty cool, I wanna try this.
She wasnt used that much generally, but on that one screenshot I didnt get that many damage relics so I had to rely on her
The other screenshot I got like Old Fan and Scout Scope so
Degen is the key to burst the boss btw
I didnt bring CE/Skalter/Heidi there but you should if you are going to attempt it
Civi S2, Skalter S3, Heidi S1 will boost her damage like +30k iirc
Thats sizeable for a 250k-ish HP boss
Was it 250k lemme check again
ik, ik, Degen speedbursting with Shu+Ela+Saki/Heidi is my go to, but splitting the damage also means more activations = less pink tiles.
close enough, if you see degen doing 20k+ you're fine, that's why I one side, but 2 side may have less risk maybe.
Two sides you kill quicker but DP intensive
If you got Miniature Stage Model and whatnots should be fine tho
Its probably has low hp for IS standard because the gimmick
Yah
That flying ball 1 hits everything tho
Unless you got lotsa HP buff/relics plus Nightingale
And the blackhole thingy

I prefer shield more tho, kinda cook with injury
Is there a document somewhere which showcases all the factory setups and their pros and cons?
I think #r-i-i-c are guys who into min maxing base. There are some characters with skills synergy for better production (Tequila + Shamare + third with better gold deal skill, etc), if you don't have them i think it is just "Throw in generic +30% or more production"
Shamare will kill other skill than tailoring π€« , fill the slot make it's 90% prod only with no side effect
Well that's Tequila combo - Tequila has 0% production, chance for better deals and 4 gold deals pays more. And third guy has 0% production and chance for better deals. And Shamare slaps +30% production on them 
anyone able to help me refine my jt-3 team?
post it 
JT8-3?
Don't place operators directly adjusted to avoid cross fire explosion. Abuse stuff like Nightingale S3 to survive fire wave. Back when i did that i conga lined medics/snipers when first fire wave happened so Amiya Guard S1 dodge tanked fireballs
~~And nuke her ass in phase 2 fast i don't want to deal with crystal rotation which i god damn memorized 3 years ago
~~
ok i got past it
the modification i made worked
i literally just switched liskram and had enough dp to handle my issue
wait how do you get sword Amiya ???
Clear jt8-2
jt ???
just keep clearing story missions
Ch8 stage name
yes
is sword Amiya decent ???
doesnt really fit my team anymore so dont know only had her for a different reason
k
depends on what you have, sheβs a good arts tank for ch9-10 bosses
at what chapter requires me to atleast have all my Ops to be E2 ???
none
even like chapter 10 ???
the level thing is a suggestion more or less
require I mean having E2 so you can survive
no it suggests it but you can work around it
though as a general rule having a solid core team at e2 would be a good idea
is that frost rock destructable ???
if memory serves no it releases damaging pulses
bring medics
ok
it freezes your units
yeah... unfortunatly no idea how big its hitboxes would be
click on it
you are getting spoonfed too much on every stage that you dont know the basics of the game at this point
i dont wanna sound mean but thats is how it is
I did click on it but it didnt show anything ??? first then I immedietly did
but whatever I beat it pretty easily
You can pretty much interact with most things by clicking / holding
oh you just click it... I thought you have to hold it
I was holding it ... nothin popped up until I just click it... I thought it works as a tile
Ye some need hold some just click
can someone check if lappyboss teleport has some sort of quirk going on?
it gets delayed when she is occupied with an operator near her
like, right next to her
https://youtu.be/ABFhxIm_nD0?si=kQZZLtGUr-uP3_Dk i noticed it from my attempts on this vid
lmao Amiya go brrrrr
blaze meta forever
the first p2 cycle, lappyboss likes to teleport earlier than i expected so amiya on left hits her instead of the cars
ill upload the failed stuff in a bit
or it could be carnival shenadigans now that i think about it





