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candid grove
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with s1

pure orchid
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Its beautiful πŸ₯Ή

candid grove
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oh, phase 1?

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i assumed you'd use it on phase 2 since you're much more pressed for time there

pure orchid
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Phase 1 dead to mother-daughter combo

candid grove
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then again, you have some big dps ops already

pure orchid
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Yeah i just did that as proof of concept

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Not really to make a clear

brittle mesa
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Does fire line get affected by both operators and enemies?

candid grove
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i had to cope with amiya as my one and only nuke op for years so im pretty familiar with her decency

candid grove
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anyways, there are only 3 ranged trucks on the stage, 2 come in the bottom left and one on the top right

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so amiya s3 actually works out pretty well here if you put her in the top right

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she should more or less be able to handle it on her own so you can focus on the 2 ranged cars and the other melee cars on the left side

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id also recommend the slow fireworks to slow the trucks down a bunch

somber falcon
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you can also simply bait the trucks with a medic

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plop them down somewhere alone and let them chill

candid grove
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you've kinda got to do that anyways unless you can kill them through the damage resist

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they attack slow so baiting their shots wont really do much

somber falcon
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eh, it's still less hassle ChenShrug

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even hibiscus can just bing chilling on left side while everyone else focuses on melee truck

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same for right side if you have an extra slot

candid grove
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they've only got an attack range of 2.2, it's not that hard to just stay away from them

scarlet mortar
candid grove
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sounds like a skill issue ngl

somber falcon
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well it's more needed for newbies since they likely need the fireworks effect

scarlet mortar
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nah i said lowstep so

candid grove
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they only put out the fuse if they shoot ops near the fuse

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so just dont put ops in their range and it's no issue

scarlet mortar
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enemyknights 3step doesn't have good options

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need to bait the cars so they all group up at the fireworks spot

elder flume
pure orchid
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The 8 vanguards 😭

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Never change rain

candid grove
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remind me to never tell you that there have been plenty of missions where i unironically used 4 vanguards at a time without nicheknights

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i kinda just threw this together real quick but this team worked pretty well

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swire is just there for moral support

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i thought id need utage and gummy but podenco, click, and lappland ended up doing more damage than i thought

narrow pendant
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Based swire

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Gao

candid grove
brittle mesa
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I actually managed to work that stage through

candid grove
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oh, neat

brittle mesa
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Btw, how often events happen?

candid grove
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whenever the previous one ends more or less

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although there's usually at least a few days of downtime between them

brittle mesa
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Damn. So there's little to no time to collect recourses for ops

prisma swift
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event gives shit ton of resources

candid grove
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yeah, they usually help quite a bit

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and plenty of events either dont have farming or allow you to farm any stage

tidal sedge
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hey guys i have a problem with PV-3. So i have Mountain E1 and i managed to get spot to lvl 55 E1 too and did his simulation.
I also have Kloo Alt at lvl 30 something. Tequila is at E2...

candid grove
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the fire jugglers i assume?

tidal sedge
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yeap

pure orchid
brittle mesa
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Just use pushers and wandering medics

candid grove
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in case you dont know, if you can survive until the carnivale starts, your ops become unable to die until carnivale ends

wicked minnow
pure orchid
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10 more days to go !!!

candid grove
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as long as you keep destroying the balloons with snipers, your ops will be immortal

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so make surviving until that point your goal

candid grove
tidal sedge
candid grove
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did anyone else get promoted?

brittle mesa
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Also, i have used 4* besieger who has ability to see invisible enemies

candid grove
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totter's real nice here

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or so ive heard at least

brittle mesa
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And Horn 1s trivializes all stages basically.

tidal sedge
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hmm i'll try to see...

candid grove
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you wont really be able to make use of those strategies here

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btw, id recommend leveling up kroos soon

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she's basically the best non-6* sniper before e2

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man, your ops are extremely low level

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ill see what i can pull together, but there's a good chance you'll just have to wait a bit to level up some characters

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getting tequila to e2 early wasnt the worst investment though, he does a lot of damage when used properly

tidal sedge
candid grove
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base kroos

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5* kroos is great too

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base kroos is cheaper which is why i specifically mentioned her

tidal sedge
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i can farm for some materials to lvl them up.

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But approximately to what level? should i be aiming for at least.

candid grove
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e1 max is generally a comfy spot for me, but im not really sure where else below that on a budget

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e1 lvl 1 at least gives them access to their second skill and passive if they have one though

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ok, that wasnt actually so bad

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i couldnt make an exact copy of your team but my spot and lancet were able to tank the left side long enough for the fireworks to go off

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i ended up doing something like this

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my mountain is e1 lvl 80 and idk what level your mountain is, but he was able to tank just fine too once his skill 2 turned on

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you just need two snipers to destroy the balloons so whoever is blocking the fire jugglers doesnt die

tidal sedge
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okie...well time to level up the ops mostly, because most of them are E1 except for the 2*...

candid grove
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you can place tequila wherever

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e1 max is enough for most content, for the record

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as long as you have one or two e2 6*s to nuke particularly strong enemies, you can make do with e1 max lvl for most of the game

tidal sedge
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AmiyaDeskBang i shall go do that then. Funny enough i also have Vulpi now...

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oh btw when i do get my ticket to instantly lvl 80 an ops, who should i use it on?

candid grove
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im not really sure

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which item specifically is it again?

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this thing?

tidal sedge
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its from the log in days yeap that one.

elder flume
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well you can only use it on an E2 op

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in which theres only 1 for you so far

tidal sedge
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hi Rainchan

elder flume
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and Teq is pretty good for it

tidal sedge
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Bnuuy i'm here to ask stupid questions again as a newbie

elder flume
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oh im known

candid grove
pearl stone
candid grove
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i kinda assumed it went from e0 lvl 1 to e2 max

elder flume
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it just makes E2 5star into max level

tidal sedge
candid grove
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he's pretty good too

pearl stone
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You can't instant e2 silverash without paying money

candid grove
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arguably a little more flexible than tequila since he has 2 block though

pearl stone
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Maxed out tequila is free

candid grove
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but in terms of burst damage, tequila is pretty similar

wicked minnow
tidal sedge
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Bnuuy oh yeah ik, but i'm just saying thats what i was told...

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ReedBean i kind of just have to work on leveling up my ops now...and pray to God.

candid grove
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id get a medic leveled up sooner rather than later

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silence, if i had to pick one

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she gets a drone on her skill 2 that can be placed anywhere on the map

prisma swift
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cant u cheese that stage with a pusher

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or at least half of it

candid grove
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they dont have an e1 pusher yet

prisma swift
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oh

lofty sundial
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is that max operator ticket also gives their module?

candid grove
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didnt wanna force them to spend resources just for this stage

prisma swift
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no

elder flume
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just level

dusky wagon
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So I'm tryna clear all the annihilation missions I could play, (currently lvl 21), which operators should I focus on to help me clear these stages πŸ₯€πŸ₯€πŸ₯€

tidal sedge
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I can E1 Shaw soon >.>

dusky wagon
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(i literally only got back to playing AK 3 days ago cuz i heard virtuosa)

prisma swift
candid grove
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i dont think you really need one for the rest of the normal stages so there's no rush right now

prisma swift
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push and pull are niche

somber falcon
candid grove
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having one pusher and puller at e1 is great to have once you have a decent team leveled up though

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they're niche, but irreplaceable in it

dusky wagon
somber falcon
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Chernobog and lungmen outskirts

dusky wagon
wicked minnow
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very niche, you dont really need them for any 1 stage. they are just marginally more useful in those stages

candid grove
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the bottom two

pearl stone
dusky wagon
somber falcon
candid grove
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oh shit, it is

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why the hell is it ordered like this

lofty sundial
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base workers

candid grove
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they meant indentured employees

pearl stone
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Units that work in your base to produce resources

prisma swift
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ops that are only used for their base skills

dusky wagon
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ah

lofty sundial
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base is great source for passive income

dusky wagon
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which ones are those again im unfamiliar

pearl stone
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/baseskills command in #bot-spam

pearl stone
prisma swift
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login rewards RedOmegaLul

real ginkgo
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cant beat ED2 in IS5 for the life of me. Could anyone help?

candid grove
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you arent getting universal lmd directly from HG like the rest of us?

dusky wagon
candid grove
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it unlocks their base skills

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some dont need to be leveled up at all though, like haze

tidal sedge
pearl stone
somber falcon
candid grove
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but you should definitely level haze up anyways

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no, im not biased

leaden sierra
pearl stone
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Haze doesn't benefit in base from e1

dusky wagon
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imma just borrow my friend's kalsit for good measure

tidal sedge
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oh one other question, since i have Kloos alt. Would it also benefit me to lvl her up? or just stick to base Kloos

candid grove
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it's absolutely essential for base efficiency

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kroos alt is great too

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i use her myself from time to time

pearl stone
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Are we just giving bad advice to the new player that's pinched on resources?

candid grove
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i was joking, ceroas

pearl stone
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Jokes are funny

candid grove
full terrace
leaden sierra
tidal sedge
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~.~ i wish there was some kind of mentor program...so i'd only have to bug one person for this and not a lot of people for it......

candid grove
pearl stone
candid grove
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both krooses i mean

candid grove
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alternatively, you could consider upgrading april as your second sniper for now

tidal sedge
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.> my mountain is nearly...E1 50...(dear god i hope that helps)
Then i'll wait for that thing for Tequila.

candid grove
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she's a little weaker, but her skill 2 makes her invisible

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and that's super useful on quite a few stages

lofty sundial
real ginkgo
candid grove
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she's saved my ass plenty of times

leaden sierra
candid grove
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i can already think of a handful of early stages with pre-spawns where april would be incredibly useful

tidal sedge
lofty sundial
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this ak server don't have mentor / senpai role so we don't know who qualified

leaden sierra
leaden sierra
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sure

candid grove
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people's perception of things can vary wildly depending on how they play the game

elder flume
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having a mentor role would not be a wise idea

real ginkgo
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those are my mostly build units

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and some 4*stars like courier and perfumer

leaden sierra
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agreed, sometimes we have biased opinions, chat keeps people in check from weird recommendations.

real ginkgo
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ill be in vc if someone wants to watch me suffer xD

tidal sedge
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question, >.> as a newbie should i be aiming for crownslayer? or are they more just good for collection...

pearl stone
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No kal is kinda unlucky

candid grove
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crownslayer's pretty stinky

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although i suppose she'd be decent in the early game occasionally?

leaden sierra
candid grove
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i mean, even red s1 was enough to kill ranged enemies early in the game

pearl stone
elder flume
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idt shes for early but i can test her a bit ig

real ginkgo
candid grove
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definitely not worth it in the long run though

violet sorrel
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ur ops is more than enuf for D2 SkadiDaijoubu

tidal sedge
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okay...here's an idea >.> is there someone ideally i can borrow? to let me just finish the stages to PV-5?

pearl stone
real ginkgo
candid grove
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i can send you my ID if you'd like, although i dont really have any meta ops at e2 so im not sure how much help id be

violet sorrel
real ginkgo
pearl stone
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Blueprint is broken

violet sorrel
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more artifact & voucher
suuurely

candid grove
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actually i guess kaltsit is pretty much perfect for this event

real ginkgo
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and i guess, Vanguard, Sniper and Specialist for starter?

tidal sedge
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dear god.. i hope this qworks

candid grove
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kaltsit should do you good for the upcoming trucks

pearl stone
leaden sierra
violet sorrel
candid grove
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just remember to put tequila in the squad so you can use e2 supports

violet sorrel
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wis / spot / steward or lava

pearl stone
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What?

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4 stars are free to draft

real ginkgo
violet sorrel
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that's me u know

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no build 4*

real ginkgo
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might lvl gummy and use her

violet sorrel
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could use click / gmmuy tho

leaden sierra
real ginkgo
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click is indeed leveld

real ginkgo
leaden sierra
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yeah that's enough, so what's the issue, is she dying too soon?

real ginkgo
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ye

violet sorrel
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try blueprint squad ReedBean

real ginkgo
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am doing that rn

leaden sierra
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also eyja S1 should keep her alive no?

rich plover
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Do you guys recommend Burn or Slow for PV 10?

pearl stone
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Neither?

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Oh

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Right, the fireworks

rich plover
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I can show you my team comp

candid grove
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unless you plan on killing phase 1 with nothing but burn, slow is probably a little better

pearl stone
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I used the tenacity buff

candid grove
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although the fodder isnt really that big of a deal so cold might be better than those

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im personally not a fan of the tenacity buff since it involves damaging my squishy ops

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although i guess you could limit it to some tankier guards or something

full terrace
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D14 and above they cannot kill the F1 Spine, low diff they are more than enough

real ginkgo
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really?

full terrace
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Yes

pearl stone
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Do you need click for that?

full terrace
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Tin Man and Wis are enough to kill the Spines in both Safety Inspection and Bad Neighbor

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F2 usually Wis is upgraded and she will shoot down every Spine you see

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Beanstalk for lanehold

rich plover
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How many ops get retreated after the Carnivale ends? And which ones?

remote perch
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You can also just do a Sniper/Caster Squad then go with the Lamp route than BluePrint with Talons

full terrace
real ginkgo
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i hate you google

pearl stone
candid grove
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yeah, if your ops hit 1 hp then they dont die, but they'll die after the carnivale ends

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you can tell who dies because they'll have a smoke thing to the left of them

leaden sierra
full terrace
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Cannot

leaden sierra
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yeah figures

full terrace
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Tin Man + Wis are not enough to kill F1 Spines unless your Wis is upgraded

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But anyway, I usually just focus on Encounter nodes on F1

leaden sierra
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I've been playing with gummy squard on D15 for that reason. Coping to get Tin man early.

full terrace
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For the Doodle/Talon/Lamp

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And Shrivels

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Then go to RT and upgrade Wis

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F2 is when the real play starts

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No Tin Man early is painful on the Toil I find, he is always my priority especially if you are doing Shrivel run

leaden sierra
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Encounters are nice, but if you squeeze 4 fights + 2 encounters on F1, you get higher chances for E2 walter and overall a busted run.

real ginkgo
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so i should pick the talon instead of the doodle?

full terrace
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Lamp > Doodle but Doodle still offers various better benefits in Encounters

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Talon > everything yes

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Emergency nodes are just better than Wish Fulfilled
That, if you are able to clear Emergency nodes btw

leaden sierra
full terrace
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The Expansion stages are especially painful

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Ones like Kaz Falls and Elusive Merc

real ginkgo
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what exactly does the lamp do?

leaden sierra
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if you're going for win rate wish is better since you don't risk exploding

full terrace
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Makes you more Wish Fulfilled

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= relic

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Emergency also gives relic, plus voucher plus ingot plus thoughts

remote perch
full terrace
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And if you got the Duck and co, you get +1 more relic

remote perch
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Tend to be better since you get significantly stronger relics

full terrace
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So generally Emergency > Wish Fulfilled

real ginkgo
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I seee

leaden sierra
grand basin
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whats a dosooles holiday?

elder flume
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name of event

dusk quest
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Took quite a bit of tinkering, but Lunacub S1 was key

pure orchid
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Lunacub usage

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Crazy

candid grove
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damn, lunacub sweep

pure orchid
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Last time i saw lunacub usage was lone trail

candid grove
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ive used her a handful of times but i tended to just keep her skill off

ember epoch
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Wait im confused with the new event, should I let my operators be hit by the fireworks?

violet sorrel
candid grove
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yeah, i personally found the aspd buff more annoying to deal with than it's worth outside of stages with balloons

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the other 3 are for enemies only

violet sorrel
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umm chat
i have several major skill issue 😭

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it's been
a whole week i think
i tried to save that dum civi

candid grove
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well there's your problem

violet sorrel
candid grove
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just deploy fuze

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talulah cant kill the civilians if he kills them first

violet sorrel
ember epoch
ember epoch
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so the buff's drawback is basically damaging you?

candid grove
scarlet mortar
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that and the enemy also gets tenacity

violet sorrel
candid grove
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but yeah, it's suppose to lower their health then make them attack faster i think

ember epoch
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What does tenacity do again? It's been nearly 3 years since I last properly played this game lol

candid grove
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in this case, it gives an aspd buff

scarlet mortar
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says in the buff selection screen

candid grove
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it increases based on lost health

candid grove
violet sorrel
full terrace
# violet sorrel umm chat i have several major skill issue 😭

#strategy message lemme repost:

Borrow Nightingale with Module and put bodies on the orange circled tiles to tank the fireballs, then deploy her cage somewhere up there to tank the remaining lane. Also bring some FRDs to constant bait Talulah's ignitions, she burns your ops once every 30 secs.
Gravel+Jaye+Yato(2 Star) combo works
Gravel+Jaye ~> Gravel+Yato ~> Gravel+Jaye ~> Gravel+Yato
If you have Mlynar, he has +1 Taunt and will always take one ignition (if he isnt ignited)

violet sorrel
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😭
thanks lord

prisma swift
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im sorry but did u even read the message

full terrace
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Your laneholders or anyone really

violet sorrel
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oh

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my

full terrace
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Preferably ones with 10~20 Res

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They will tank all fireballs

violet sorrel
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RedOmegaLul
brain not braining my bad

full terrace
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And ignition doesnt hurt them that much

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In that positioning for example, both of them are in Nightingale's healing range offskill

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And so they benefit off her Talent that increases res

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That, before her S3 is active
When her S3 is active, she basically just deletes the Arts damage

violet sorrel
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does
tank count as laneholder..?

full terrace
rich plover
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Holy fuck, the damage window against Lappland is too tight

elder flume
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twenty seconds isnt a lot

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its thirty seconds in EX but still small lol

rich plover
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That's like 10 seconds

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In 2x

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The issue for me is either enemies leaking during Phase 2 due to being overwhelmed or just.....Lappland

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Actually just Lappland

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Really wanted to farm PV 10, but I guess I don't have the DPS

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Or healing?

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Stalling

somber falcon
rich plover
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Sure did, but the Lappland damage issue still stands

violet sorrel
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no ng skill

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the second fireball*

full terrace
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You stall until her skill is up again

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Talulah walks quite a bit, thats plenty time

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Bring bodies and throw them at her

full terrace
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You can retreat Nightingale when the fireballs phase is over

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Then redeploy her

violet sorrel
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ooh yeah
kk

somber falcon
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Have ines leave a dagger under lapp so she has line of sight

candid grove
limpid ore
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it is

candid grove
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i suppose i should have realized that once i realized that the burn and cold fireworks are incredibly misleading

limpid ore
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it's not

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firework can attack

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ofc the burn and cold apply to firework attack

candid grove
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i just assumed that the tenacity effect would work like every other similar effect in the game

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and, by extension, that the burn and cold ones would work like that since that's what i thought it did

violet sorrel
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uh

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that mf somehow got burned and died

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that oneee civi

candid grove
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saria thought he looked a little cold

limpid ore
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you must body block the fireball to keep the civilian alive

violet sorrel
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saria block all of em

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and i didnt see why that one guy burned

candid grove
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squishier ops will really feel her damage though

somber falcon
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Lapp is the tankiest one there ReedBean

elder flume
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prob didnt deploy bait in time

candid grove
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is that nymph to the left of perfumer?

somber falcon
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Naran

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I used his ops

candid grove
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oh, ok

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i dont look at her sprite too often so i didnt recognize her

somber falcon
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Nymph wouldn't reach lapp on top there HellaHands

candid grove
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she can if she's pointed up

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lapp is only 2 tiles away

somber falcon
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Oh wait yeah 2 not 3

candid grove
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yeah, it looks farther than it really is

sick shore
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Hello, does team building matter in the early game? Im quite new so i dont wanna mess up by wasting mats early on. Ive only done 20 pulls, still have both 5 star selectors, and only at tr-5 of episode 0

candid grove
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id say it's more the kind of units rather than the specific characters you use

sick shore
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As in the character roles? Like vanguard and that?

candid grove
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that's less true later on, but you'll also have a much wider variety of characters you can use

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yeah, basically

scarlet mortar
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ofc team building matters

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early on you'll mostly rely on the basic classes handed to you, so you'll build around them

hasty spruce
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was not expecting brody to oneshot everyone πŸ’”

scarlet mortar
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once you have a handy roster of 6*s they'll start fulfilling their own wacky roles, at that point it's more convenient to talk abt roles than classes

glass monolith
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Need to kill him without blocking

scarlet mortar
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either way you need to know who you're bringing to the stage and what for

hasty spruce
elder flume
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Patriot phase 1 is 2.1k x 4 hits lol

scarlet mortar
sick shore
scarlet mortar
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near the release of ch7 pat oneshots almost everything he touches lol

scarlet mortar
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but like, yh don't go all in on them

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
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if your defenders can't tank and your medics can't heal you'll struggle all the same

scarlet mortar
hasty spruce
scarlet mortar
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(she gets twoshot)

candid grove
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bribe him enough money to not kill you

sick shore
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Alright, i only got two 6 stars so far so i guess ill try to make do with my other units

elder flume
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if you stall Patriot P2 for 9999s he restarts P2 animation

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fun boss

scarlet mortar
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pat but angrier

pure orchid
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how even

oak sedge
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Is it possible to do pv 6 without using the fireworks, defending it is just tedious for me

pure orchid
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even if you had noir corne with a hospital worth of medics backing him up, the minimum dmg would catch up

violet sorrel
somber falcon
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why noir AmiyaDonk

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the top bricks should tank him just fine on p2

oak sedge
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man fuck this, how much currency given in pv10

pure orchid
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9999s bro

glass monolith
pure orchid
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how do you stall pat for 9999s without killing him

candid grove
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is there a skill that stops a melee operator for attacking forever?

pure orchid
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cuora with liskarm aak battery Originium

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Still not 100%

somber falcon
pure orchid
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holy shit wait

somber falcon
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not that fraud lmao

pure orchid
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ela but facing away

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im a genius

somber falcon
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hoshi and nian

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probably rotated

pure orchid
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now how do you make ela survive pat

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Hoshi and nian still attack

candid grove
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silence alter is probably a good start

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and catherine

elder flume
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i did it in 2k23

candid grove
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and skadi alter s2 maybe?

elder flume
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it did take 3 hours of skill cycling but thats that

glass monolith
#

Hung fueling by Aura of frauddad SoraWow

candid grove
#

damn

somber falcon
elder flume
candid grove
#

you could also get bryophyta to face ela but not patriot

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oh, and shu's field

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does it stack with silence alter's damage reduction?

elder flume
#

why do you need defense again

candid grove
#

nvm, it doesnt

elder flume
#

P2 is shit atk

candid grove
#

without manually spamming skills for 3 hours straight

glass monolith
#

Gladdia stack with Silence alter stacks with Stainless S3 TexasPeek

elder flume
#

i mean surviving it with my same strat but Ela instead of Hung should be sufficient

candid grove
#

doesnt he oneshot her by a fair amount?

elder flume
candid grove
#

not defending it will also take longer since you'll need to wait for everyone to walk to the blue box

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but yeah, it shouldnt be that hard to just ignore the fireworks and put everyone at the chokepoint

elder flume
#

2hondo def
1hondo def Shining
36% Stainless
16% sanctuary Quercus
CE
Shining shield
NG shield

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surely thats overkill

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full afk

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oh Honeyberry also

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Medicmiya

glass monolith
#

"It is overkill" - Proceeds to add more

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This is what i love about this game HellaKek

somber falcon
rich plover
#

So Ascalon S2, Archetto S2, Narantuya S3?

somber falcon
#

ye

wicked minnow
#

archetto standard skill is her s2?

somber falcon
#

his is e1

glass monolith
#

I believe it is between S2 and S3 based on situation

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And well S3 is less clicks so guess which one #help will select FrankaWheeze

somber falcon
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it's only for mobs there anyways

wicked minnow
#

last i used archetto was a year ago CeobeConfused

glass monolith
#

CC9 Archetto S3 ptsd flashbacks

wicked minnow
#

i remember looking up which skill she used

glass monolith
#

Who is new IS module on CN? Archetto and Mizuki?

rich plover
#

Yea, tho it would be 5-6 months away no?

elder flume
glass monolith
#

Well it will worth a wait surely uWu

elder flume
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albeit takes fifty hours now instead of 1 hour

glass monolith
wicked minnow
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i think if ground enemies path a certain way and or get pushed they can block ranged units but i havent tested that fully yet just had it happen to me a couple times

autumn galleon
#

hello I need help with pv-10, this is what the stage looks like and here are my units

elder flume
#

gona farm it or focus first clear first?

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fireworks placement is part of the problem imo

glass monolith
#

Wasn't fluid like very low wanted material or whatever it has?

elder flume
#

it really only attacks your blocker

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ye its low but still better than story stage

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if you dont care about farming it then Ling support should suffice

autumn galleon
#

I just wanna try and clear it with my team and no support lol

#

I'm having trouble surviving her second phase with the second carneval

elder flume
#

dying to dancer or dying to Lapp

glass monolith
#

If she phase 2 while Carnaval ongoing she won't speed up Carnaval start so you won't get into "Cars arrive when Carnaval is not piece of shit design" uWu

elder flume
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Spalter should be able to take care of right side

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Logos handle left + Lapp

viral siren
#

guys which fireworks did you use for the last stage ?

autumn galleon
glass monolith
#

I used slow one but it didn't make much difference as i was killing majority of stuff near red boxes ChenShrug

autumn galleon
#

and left side kinda on life support but I'll try putting logos on left

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sheesh

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must be a skill issue for me frfr

elder flume
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well Logos wants mod

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thats losing a lot of damage

autumn galleon
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ya they did say recommended level is e2 lvl 20 :((

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but I know it's possible

glass monolith
#

Recommended level is "lie" in this game

bold sparrow
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Guys

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I have a question

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So kafka S1 can't hit invis but the summon of Blacknight can. What's the difference btw (yes this is sleepknights without blemi, point and laugh)

glass monolith
#

Ask HG of what they are cooking

dry flame
#

any cmd to see previous en banner ?

bold sparrow
glass monolith
#

Are there any profit in seeing it?

bold sparrow
glass monolith
# bold sparrow No.

We both know "no", i am just curious for what gain he need that info. Also in theory he can just find announce of banner in #game-news

full terrace
rich plover
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I can finally farm this stage

elder flume
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Contrail is fun

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A lot of things cant target her

frosty stirrup
#

can some one help me beating LS-4 cus im tryig it for hours and cant seem to get it

pure orchid
#

Tho i went overkill and put logos too

crisp birch
pure orchid
#

God i hate fireballs

crisp birch
#

i mean like just get to play this map

full terrace
tawdry path
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Nvm

tawdry path
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Nvm (2) its the alt i thought its a diff stage

crisp birch
full terrace
#

Theresis has massive DR (90% iirc) when he is close to his sister. This DR will be lowered the further away he is from his sister (down to 35% iirc).

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Shu's teleportation after Phase 1 ended (right before Phase 2) will just drag him away from his sister to maximum distance, this lowers his DR to 35% instantly

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Gladiia on the Shift tile below plus the Shift strength Inspirer/Relic will let you shift him by a few tiles, this would reduce his DR but not all the way down to 35% unless you use multiple shifters to shift him further away

crisp birch
#

worryhmm woah that's new

frosty stirrup
#

can some one help me beating LS-4 cus im tryig it for hours and cant seem to get it

full terrace
#

True Damage is most consistent way, that just ignores his DR completely, just beat him up

crisp birch
#

this map is a bit different from the one you're talking about

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but i think we can still use those strat BronyaLike

full terrace
frosty stirrup
wise idol
#

is this misson for lappy alter bugged

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cause i did this I even did it with her S3 and still dint compleate

glass monolith
#

You did activate skill twice part?

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In not practice

somber falcon
#

also use plat s2 instead s1

full terrace
#

@pure orchid guess what

frosty stirrup
full terrace
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My alt just got Top Operator tag thrice in a row CeobeConfused

pure orchid
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I have no idea, what

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what the

full terrace
#

Saria, Ifrit, Weedy respectively

somber falcon
full terrace
#

And also offrated a Gnosis in this banner

pure orchid
#

Your alt strikes again smh

full terrace
#

Freaking alt is ready for cc instantly

frosty stirrup
somber falcon
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use gitano instead of catapult

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and once again, plat s2

frosty stirrup
#

s2 means skill 2?

somber falcon
#

yes

frosty stirrup
#

ah

elder flume
#

Unfortunate Ceylon deploy

tidal sedge
#

Any quick/cheese strat for this? Challenge mode

somber falcon
#

let the planks break

tidal sedge
#

What about the citizens

somber falcon
#

did you see any passing through planks? PodencoSip

tidal sedge
#

Hmm, I didn’t actually look to notice

frosty stirrup
tidal sedge
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I was worried it’s imperative they must be up

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Thanks

somber falcon
somber falcon
tidal sedge
somber falcon
#

the idea is to just let the rocks fall to the first hole they pass

frosty stirrup
tidal sedge
#

To whoever recommend me to use valarqvin

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I will say that she's decent

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Any other good elemental damage dealer?

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Please

limpid ore
#

the fireworks launcher

tidal sedge
brisk surge
#

Hi chat ReedBean

limpid ore
#

the event firework launcher

tidal sedge
#

Ofc

full terrace
#

Best of luck there

tidal sedge
#

Doing this soullink makes me realized how good Narantuya Subrole is

brisk surge
tidal sedge
#

Tell me what I lacked

#

I was lucky enough to even got the chance to use Cuora and Cantabile

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Especially in the early stage where I don't have that many ops

narrow pendant
#

What u lack? Mods

tidal sedge
#

But I need a good elemental damage dealer now

narrow pendant
#

Thats what

tidal sedge
#

Valarqvin is decent at her job

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I can't use virtuosa and Logos

narrow pendant
#

Oh wait

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Youre that one guy

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Nvm

tidal sedge
#

It's a soul link

tidal sedge
#

She's good

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But there's probably someone better

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I'm not complaining

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Even without elemental damage I still have Wis and the other

full terrace
#

Honestly, people dont really care about your "soullink" niche or whatever it is called. I dont really understand that "Tell me what I lack" when you restrict yourself with your niche, the answer you get will be generic/meta anyway why bother?

tidal sedge
#

Yeah true

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My bad

wicked minnow
#

so this is why

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necrosis application there's like 5 units in the game i think

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logos virtuosa valarqvin ebenholz and philae

pure orchid
#

wheres my phonor and nymph smh

wicked minnow
#

they dont exist

brisk surge
#

called out

wicked minnow
#

ok nymph too

#

uhhh

pure orchid
#

you dont exist bozo

wicked minnow
#

damn i guess i really dont

brisk surge
#

be nice

narrow pendant
#

No

pure orchid
#

i guess you exist a little...

narrow pendant
#

Be a hater

pure orchid
#

sigh

full terrace
#

Do I exist a lot for you? PenanceBlush

tidal sedge
#

I forgot Ebenholz has elemental damage in his module

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Thanks for reminding me

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Appreciate it

wicked minnow
#

you said val is good, do you wanna try out a maxed one?

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her mod is kinda nice

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she's pretty good for a 5*

tidal sedge
#

Sure

wicked minnow
#

aight

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imma send in dms

tidal sedge
#

I just need to pull them

wicked minnow
#

thing is i wouldnt recommend her to most people but since you are doing a lil challenge i dont see why not

#

i sent you my id

leaden sierra
#

all this and not a single mention of Diamante FrankaGuns

wicked minnow
#

he actually doesnt exist

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no one remembered him 😭

tidal sedge
#

I like my team for now

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It's a little boring when Wis is in there

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So I just swapped her out with kroos or Narantuya

leaden sierra
wicked minnow
#

narantuya soo good EyJay

tidal sedge
tidal sedge
leaden sierra
brisk surge
#

just spark

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like how i sparked rosmontis

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i do love her so its a win for me

#

IS gaming

tidal sedge
#

About 100 pulls I think

#

No luck

tidal sedge
#

I do got second Narantuya

pure orchid
#

Are u really gonna make me say it out loud

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Also slr i wet my body with water soap and then water again

full terrace
#

Hi @regal frost

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You still alive?

#

@pure orchid yo have you watched the 3D 6th anni PV?

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Lemme DM you

pure orchid
#

I have

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regular too

full terrace
#

Oh okay

pure orchid
#

and the whole livestream...

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i watched everything 6th anni related

#

its so peak...

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hai mao rigged the rewards again RedOmegaLul

full terrace
#

I didnt watch livestream at all, and just read what people summarized at #cn-lounge

pure orchid
#

Its quite entertaining i must say

full terrace
#

I like the 3D PV

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When Virtuosa pops the balloon

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I chuckled

pure orchid
#

hehe

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yeah same

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shit boutta go down

#

and AND

#

ITS A SIBLING FIGHT !!!!

full terrace
#

More like Exe vs Virt vs Lemuen+Exu 🀣

pure orchid
#

Oh what lmao

#

I thought virt was with exe

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And also i just remembered theyre cousins not siblings

full terrace
#

Nope he pointed his gun at her at first, then shift it to Lemuen

pure orchid
#

Exe has it tough

full terrace
#

🀣

pure orchid
#

Damn they dont care about the law tho

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Like fuck the law lemme kill some kin

full terrace
#

πŸ˜‚

pure orchid
#

Wait

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can we even talk about the pv here ReedBean

#

You had me in yap mode i forgot

full terrace
#

I didnt really read Guide Ahead but I do know Mostima is the best gurl

#

Let's stop here before the mod bonks us

pure orchid
#

I offer my sincerest apologies

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To whichever mod sees this first

hazy sinew
brisk surge
wicked minnow
#

ayo

low moon
#

Can anyone hop on VC and help me clear the event?

sick knoll
#

wet noodles

wintry gulch
#

@low moon btw, send roster when asking for stage clear help

sick knoll
#

we are in a permanent state of wet. and yes what ploof said

brisk surge
#

wet

wintry gulch
#

ploof 😭

sick knoll
wicked minnow
full terrace
#

So uh.. from the Andoain (600 def, 38k HP) showcase, Lemuen S3 does 7x7987 damage. Her total damage seems to be around 60k

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That looks like a Degen powercreep

low moon
wintry gulch
#

ok should be pretty easy event clear

#

zoro do you need pv-10 auto or nah

full terrace
#

Wisadel does around 18k per shot x 6 ammo, she has higher total damage still. I did a quick test on EX-8 Andoain Normal Mode just like the showcase and she 3 shots him (assuming no dodge)

low moon
wicked minnow
#

ye we can

#

your voice is a bit low but i turned up the volume a bit

#

so it should be good

#

that would be nice yeah

wintry gulch
#

yeah that works

wicked minnow
#

a bit louder would be nice

#

i think it's good ye

south spindle
#

Use vc chat probably

wintry gulch
#

firework doesn't matter too much

teal moon
#

I'm seeing 4 people trying to help one person clear the event, how dramatic is the situation?

narrow pendant
#

Death

wintry gulch
#

full e2 team

narrow pendant
#

Skissue then

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Icic

south spindle
#

Lmao it was like 4 people muted kind of hilarious

teal moon
brisk surge
#

im just chilling

wintry gulch
#

true

narrow pendant
brisk surge
#

wtfart

wintry gulch
#

did bro really just spam that in every channel

narrow pendant
#

Mod notified

#

Will be killed shortly

analog mirage
#

as if devs are on discord

narrow pendant
#

Aot fanboys

#

Mid show

#

Amyway

brisk surge
#

TRUE

severe venture
#

any good strat for this stage? SkadiDaijoubu

full terrace
#

Emergency Kaz Falls you just avoid it in the future

teal moon
full terrace
#

Nah I'm just recording some stages from time to time, ones that I think people will struggle on

#

If I find it fun, people will struggle

brisk surge
#

you like watching people struggle or

full terrace
#

I'm not sadistic πŸ˜‚

#

I just love helping people really

leaden sierra
# severe venture any good strat for this stage? <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>

I've been trying it multiple times with walter to figure out the timings, and so far:
* start with gummy
* S2 gives more consistent results
* let the speedy thing go, before walter deploy
* tin man can save walter from 1 necrosis proc, but if you're doing without a healer, gotta be precise and lucky with crits. Also, walter can survive 1 proc. Use your 3rd character to stall the slug things for walter to clear out incoming mobs (2-3 hits is enough).

full terrace
lone sleet
teal moon
#

btw, I'd adjust your team a bit first. You're raising wrong op

wild quarry
#

is londinium cannon true aoe?

narrow pendant
#

Ofc

teal moon
# lone sleet <@770653072589979699>

Silence->Hibiscus
Lappland->Cardigan
Lancet->Kroos2 (Invitation to wine side story)
shaw is flex spot, I'd use myrtle once you get her from recruit

lone sleet
#

Should I maybe grind for Kroos2 instead for now?

teal moon
lone sleet
leaden sierra
full terrace
#

Someone translated it

#

I count the DP for the charge up. It seems to be around 30~35 secs charge

#

Which is a good cycle

leaden sierra
#

wheelchair meta haha

full terrace
#

Nah she wont outperform Wisadel I dont think

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She is just a ranged Degen more or less

leaden sierra
#

Walter is probably better since she'll overshoot and be left without buttets. Also, her talents don't help her off-skill performance. Survival is high tho, since she can sit comfy at the back.

teal moon
lone sleet
#

Around what level?

teal moon
#

obv farm the event stages for even currency

teal moon
lone sleet
#

Alright got it tysm

teal moon
full terrace
#

She is just slow

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Her main appeal for me is her Revenant Shadows anyway

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And they give her Camouflage

leaden sierra
lone sleet
teal moon
full terrace
lone sleet
#

So I try to go as far as possible with support first?

teal moon
lone sleet
teal moon
lone sleet
#

What're chip stages?

teal moon
#

I'd remove Shaw since he won't see use in the avg stage

teal moon
lone sleet
teal moon
teal moon
lone sleet
#

Who could I replacr for shaw

teal moon
#

you could use popukar for now imo

lone sleet
#

Alright

leaden sierra
# full terrace DPH matters you go play Ray. Why are you comparing her DPH to Wis anyway, she al...

All I'm seeing is that she's a faster typhon S3 that doesn't suffer from extra mobs. We're on the same page, her use case is completely different from walter, closer to degen, except she's ranged. Her actual niche if I understand the talent correctly, is marking enemies that never even got into her range through other units and applying the nuke on them. Usually an elite. I just don't see the use case yet, but Ray comparison seems situational.

full terrace
#

Uh.. I wouldnt count on her Talent while she asks for other Laterano units, but yeah when the condition is right it can be an asset. Ray has around 60k total damage, which is more or less hers. The thing is that, hers is AoE while Ray is stuck on ST but with Bind and faster cycle when she kills something. I agree with her comparison with Typhon tho, that seems to be appropriate.

brisk surge
#

he didnt get to do the funny stage

wicked minnow
#

i think it's fine if we leave it for later ig that's also what he wanted i think CeobeConfused

#

regarding Lemuen i have a strange feeling that s2 is her main skill. idk 12k dph map wide range sounds stupid as hell and it's not like she shoots that slow

#

once people were calculating s3 damage i realized it probably wasnt gonna be meta

#

a bit too gimmicky imo

desert prairie
#

Does lappy boss teleport slower if she attacks?

leaden sierra
# full terrace Someone translated it

closer to centre receive higher damage, AOE is for mobs, DPH falls with multiple elites further apart, so still kinda single targetish. Also typhon has slow. Maybe she's not that broken. That's a good thing.

wicked minnow
#

combo with fia grandad seems cool tho

desert prairie
#

I dont understand why her teleport is so inconsistent

wary wing
#

you can warf lemuen s3 for double damage
you can run laterano comp for double damage on top

its done in a 5s window

#

meanwhile wisadel takes forever with +0 aspd

#

and has global range on a marked enemy

wicked minnow
#

the warf combo does seem quite appealing too but is the total damage appealing enough to be using over degen where it matters

#

while lemuen s3 seems to me to be a bit more gimmicky

wary wing
#

lemuen is more safely spammable

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once the enemy is locked you can chill and spam

#

while degen either nuked or dies after 1 skill

wary wing
#

if the enemy is relevant enough

wicked minnow
#

mhmm right global range CeobeConfused

leaden sierra
#

the question is, can she hit air HellaKek (with S3)

narrow pendant
#

Why dont we just wait when shes actually released

#

:professional:

wicked minnow
#

because that would be too logical

vernal fossil
#

Which module would be more recommended for NearlRK? more general use/IS if that narrows!

full terrace
# leaden sierra closer to centre receive higher damage, AOE is for mobs, DPH falls with multiple...

Well the Andoain showcase by HG only has him as the target so I'm sure thats the "center damage".

That is exactly my dilemma tho, if her dps isnt meta-shifting I'm not sure if I will be using her a lot (just like how I bench Degen most of the time), but I really want her gimmicks so I'd still pull for her, like the instant burst is really really good for stages like Sentinel, also we dont know if her S3 is Atk scale or Atk up yet, if it's Atk scale then her damage ceiling is going to be high.

wicked minnow
#

i wanted to mention sentinel but i had doubts if she would be able to lock on to even get a chance to actually burst him

#

like she might be better than degen for burst maybe but that lock on might be a little too much (time) for cresson

#

i meant like if the boss is invincible, is he even a valid target for the lock on?

#

also all this and we dont really know how fast her skills charge

#

just a reminder she is a deadeye with the 1 sp per hit mod

#

so she could be better or worse than expected for all we know

leaden sierra
full terrace
#

There is still like half a year til she arrives in EN anyway, we'll get the chance to see her showcase in Sentinel map

#

Also if she does work on Sentinel, I think she will be quite the gamechanger there because you can just run Laterano units and she could burst the boss anywhere, doesnt matter where it teleports to

leaden sierra
#

no more shu shenanigans? IfritSweat

full terrace
#

I didnt use Shu anyway, I setup on both sides

harsh oar
#

is it actually half a year or 9 months?

full terrace
#

Left and right

harsh oar
#

why do I feel like we are so behind in schedule

wicked minnow
#

we are kinda always 6 months behind or 2 limited events more or less

leaden sierra
full terrace
#

Nightingale on right. Left just stand on the seedless tiles

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You stand on seeded tiles thats one hit kill

#

Also grab as many HP relics as possible before you get there

#

And stack as many HP Foldartals as possible

leaden sierra
#

yeah, I guess if you have enough tanky relics 2 sides is possible, otherwise full left on normal and right + shu speed burst on the other. But takes a lot of work.

full terrace
leaden sierra
#

S3 nymph?

full terrace
#

Errr S2

leaden sierra
#

not enough time, gotcha. Still pretty cool, I wanna try this.

full terrace
#

She wasnt used that much generally, but on that one screenshot I didnt get that many damage relics so I had to rely on her

#

The other screenshot I got like Old Fan and Scout Scope so

#

Degen is the key to burst the boss btw

#

I didnt bring CE/Skalter/Heidi there but you should if you are going to attempt it

#

Civi S2, Skalter S3, Heidi S1 will boost her damage like +30k iirc

#

Thats sizeable for a 250k-ish HP boss

#

Was it 250k lemme check again

leaden sierra
#

ik, ik, Degen speedbursting with Shu+Ela+Saki/Heidi is my go to, but splitting the damage also means more activations = less pink tiles.

full terrace
leaden sierra
#

close enough, if you see degen doing 20k+ you're fine, that's why I one side, but 2 side may have less risk maybe.

full terrace
#

Two sides you kill quicker but DP intensive

#

If you got Miniature Stage Model and whatnots should be fine tho

scarlet fulcrum
#

Its probably has low hp for IS standard because the gimmick

full terrace
#

Yah

#

That flying ball 1 hits everything tho

#

Unless you got lotsa HP buff/relics plus Nightingale

#

And the blackhole thingy

scarlet fulcrum
full terrace
scarlet fulcrum
#

I prefer shield more tho, kinda cook with injury

molten juniper
#

Is there a document somewhere which showcases all the factory setups and their pros and cons?

glass monolith
rapid junco
#

Shamare will kill other skill than tailoring 🀫 , fill the slot make it's 90% prod only with no side effect

glass monolith
#

Well that's Tequila combo - Tequila has 0% production, chance for better deals and 4 gold deals pays more. And third guy has 0% production and chance for better deals. And Shamare slaps +30% production on them uWu

stoic atlas
#

anyone able to help me refine my jt-3 team?

wispy condor
#

post it RosThumbsUp

stoic atlas
wicked minnow
#

JT8-3?

stoic atlas
#

yes

#

currently doing a run with a slightly changed setup that is so far looking good

glass monolith
#

Don't place operators directly adjusted to avoid cross fire explosion. Abuse stuff like Nightingale S3 to survive fire wave. Back when i did that i conga lined medics/snipers when first fire wave happened so Amiya Guard S1 dodge tanked fireballs

#

~~And nuke her ass in phase 2 fast i don't want to deal with crystal rotation which i god damn memorized 3 years ago HellaHands ~~

stoic atlas
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ok i got past it

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the modification i made worked

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i literally just switched liskram and had enough dp to handle my issue

steel prairie
cedar hound
steel prairie
stoic atlas
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just keep clearing story missions

cedar hound
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Ch8 stage name

steel prairie
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oh

stoic atlas
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yes

steel prairie
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is sword Amiya decent ???

stoic atlas
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doesnt really fit my team anymore so dont know only had her for a different reason

steel prairie
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k

vocal leaf
steel prairie
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at what chapter requires me to atleast have all my Ops to be E2 ???

steel prairie
stoic atlas
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the level thing is a suggestion more or less

steel prairie
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require I mean having E2 so you can survive

stoic atlas
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no it suggests it but you can work around it

steel prairie
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or else it will be like climbing a mountain

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ok

stoic atlas
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though as a general rule having a solid core team at e2 would be a good idea

steel prairie
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is that frost rock destructable ???

stoic atlas
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bring medics

steel prairie
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ok

brisk surge
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it freezes your units

steel prairie
brisk surge
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click on it

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you are getting spoonfed too much on every stage that you dont know the basics of the game at this point

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i dont wanna sound mean but thats is how it is

steel prairie
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but whatever I beat it pretty easily

tawdry path
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You can pretty much interact with most things by clicking / holding

steel prairie
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I was holding it ... nothin popped up until I just click it... I thought it works as a tile

elder flume
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Ye some need hold some just click

desert prairie
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can someone check if lappyboss teleport has some sort of quirk going on?

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it gets delayed when she is occupied with an operator near her

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like, right next to her

brisk surge
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how to check

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i just smash her face in

elder flume
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Record a vid if you can

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I'll do things when im available

desert prairie
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the first p2 cycle, lappyboss likes to teleport earlier than i expected so amiya on left hits her instead of the cars

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ill upload the failed stuff in a bit

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or it could be carnival shenadigans now that i think about it