strategy

[full terrace]

🤣🤣

[glass monolith]

She literally stood up to fraud accusations in lore

[narrow pendant]

Ik, im making fun🥹

[rapid junco]

Making fun disable ppl

I curse you yume

[narrow pendant]

Not disabled enoigh if she can stand

🫵

[full terrace]

She has something that can stand?

[narrow pendant]

Yeah

Her body

[pure orchid]

@full terrace do u mind putting my code for the web event in one of ur alts

[south spindle]

-._-. Lmfao

[narrow pendant]

How fast u changed ur mind

[pure orchid]

Technically im not making a new acc for this 🤫

guys idk im a fraud

[spark sinew]

how many alts do you have

i have a proposition!

[full terrace]

😂
All my alts got reset during the yostar account binding thingy, the emails are still there but I have to play through tutorials again 🤣

[pure orchid]

Yup

Fuck yostar

Thanks anyways

[full terrace]

Sorry I couldnt help. I should have bound them earlier

[pure orchid]

Nah its fine

Ill just do this banner like i did nymph's

Hopefully

[south spindle]

I have 100 alts that are all reset pain

[rancid grotto]

OMEGALUL

[wicked minnow]

some of us didnt get the event yet

[dapper hedge]

The event isnt out yet for global sir, your best bet rn is probably just yt

[ionic mortar]

Oh

I saw a few people posted on Salt mine and thought it was on Global already

[scarlet mortar]

me when i watch CN clears so i can theorycraft the clear in my head before reset

[ionic mortar]

I'll just wait a bit longer

I ma delete the image

[spark sinew]

huh, why

[civic bear]

me when i theorycraft and never play the game because its already been cleared in my head and it isnt as cool as i expected

[wicked minnow]

you can wait for someone who's on JP to get on. Or some of the CN players

[ionic mortar]

Oh right

You have a point

[rancid grotto]

Do you need a guide?

[ionic mortar]

It would help

[elder flume]

Is that the inspiration for your name

[rancid grotto]

https://youtu.be/628w6FNbX_E?si=YPOwbaBFOduW7p2b
Look at last two clears it should give you idea where to deploy operator
👆

[ionic mortar]

Ey

[ionic mortar]

just those 4?

[rancid grotto]

Use extra healers for safe clear
Crazy strat ngl

[ionic mortar]

I'm just surprised by how small that team is

[spark sinew]

4 is pretty big team

arturia1 oh no....

we gonna have people shilling it again

[ionic mortar]

Shilling what?

[dapper hedge]

Its lingable lol.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea the mechanic quite simple, the 3 blocks car also melt if u abuse the mechanic

[full terrace]

I'll learn the mechanic when the event lives 😄

[spark sinew]

arturia s1

[scarlet fulcrum]

i already finished my jp, just understands it from glances

[scarlet mortar]

i'll learn the mechanic some hours after the event goes live when arf has to explain it to people here

[elder flume]

Eunectes RA mod

The non hole maps dont look appealing

[scarlet fulcrum]

The bug still not fixed right?

[elder flume]

I assume it is since its quite significant

If they patch Reed that fast then surely the same for Eunectes

Making teleporting bosses no longer move basically breaks the need for dps

[scarlet fulcrum]

Really broken abuse

[glass monolith]

Won't they do something like teleport to Eun then teleport to next waypoint? Or Eun module is not like CC12 charge waypoint?

[elder flume]

Teleporting bosses cannot go against their set path

So theyre
Stuck

In purgatory

Trying to reach a crocodile

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea its not RA stages lmao, makes sense

[civic bear]

it got fixed iirc

[grand basin]

who should iget here guys

[spark sinew]

sa lapp

[limber fox]

Yes there is
The mission asks u to complete 3 or 4 categories of units in that intelligence map visualizer or whatever
Thing is, u can complete them all with only 3 stars (which happens naturally by the time u r there) except by ONE unit, cardigan
And the thing is, ofc u can complete another category, but the orundum needed to complete any other category is way way higher and mostly unachievable in the beginning of the game

[round pike]

WHen it comes to lumen do i use the spyglass or luck module

[elder flume]

i prefer taunt- but general opinion should be far heal

[narrow pendant]

Luck lvl1

ModY

[elder flume]

like that

[round pike]

eh?

[limber fox]

Wait

Lumen has THREE modules?

[maiden hound]

nope!

"base" one don't count

[limber fox]

I mean, they said "luck/taunt/spyglass " so thats my question

[maiden hound]

ah.
spyglass = -taunt, statres
luck = far heal

[limber fox]

Oh ic

Never leveled my lumen

[elder flume]

i dont even mod mine

but if i had the resource i would taunt-

[spark sinew]

taunt- shillers when i show them deployment order trick

[elder flume]

the status res is more important

granted not every stage has it

[spark sinew]

idk about more important

[elder flume]

but then again my choices are always weird so

[spark sinew]

you don't want to use lumen in a stage with heavy statuses anyway

he becomes way worse when he cleanses 8 of them

inb4 s1 lumen shill

[next wigeon]

Taunt isn't that important except for a minor few no? Its just a nice thing have but its not a necessity per se since it doesn't even have tutorial on how to use it anyway

[spark sinew]

you mean deployment order?

[next wigeon]

They just need this tbh

[spark sinew]

it's the core mechanic of the game

[spark sinew]

that's what my message says

[limpid ore]

lumen s3 got wasted in monsoon weather in ra

[spark sinew]

that -taunt module is rarely relevant

[next wigeon]

Bullets goes by so fast ngl

[spark sinew]

because you can just deploy lumen before your tank or whatever

[limber fox]

[limpid ore]

-1 block apparently is negative status

you know the siesta agent enemies

[next wigeon]

It is as evidenced by Lonetrail

[next wigeon]

Tbh I forgot about them

[round pike]

lumen then gum

healer then gum

caster then gum

gum is life, gum is my bait for artillery

[limpid ore]

feed durnar to gum

[next wigeon]

I try to place Guards or Defenders last

[round pike]

my team is great, but it cannot be great without gum

[next wigeon]

Or place Gravel to bait for a bit

She has a fast enough redeplyment time anyway

[limpid ore]

didnt gum bite durnar in story

[next wigeon]

That I don't know and won't bother to know

[round pike]

i think i read the first 2 episodes where the doctor wakes up and just haven't bothered to learn the lore of the game

outside of just random trivia i learn through memes

[limpid ore]

fun fact, texas isnt siracusan

[pure orchid]

You should learn about oyakodon lore

[limpid ore]

thus lappland alter talent doesnt work on her

[next wigeon]

Also btw what to do in Drought for RA, apparently you can get stunned when deploying or get hit with burn

[next wigeon]

She's Columbian and part of the Columbian Mafia

[limpid ore]

i havent that far in RA

[pure orchid]

Honestly you just live with it

You can get away with not running medic by putting medic in logistic

Weather is mostly non issue from my exp

[next wigeon]

I see

[pure orchid]

Oh unless you didnt farm enough food before drought

You kinda cooked there

[next wigeon]

I have 330 Wheat

[pure orchid]

Sounds good ish

[next wigeon]

Since Boshi told me several times to hoard rice before the 1st drought

[limber fox]

Whenever i try to play that gamemode again , everything is just a pain in the ass

[next wigeon]

Its an acquired taste

[pure orchid]

He did well to tell you that

Thats boshi for ya

[next wigeon]

At first I just did it for deforestation

Now its a good time passer

[limber fox]

I wanted to play it for the resources

But

[pure orchid]

I should finish my RA medal set sometime

[limber fox]

Man

[pure orchid]

I also havent built my god base

Then yomi can stop bullying me

[limber fox]

They did made it annoying enough

To the point it feels like i do need very specific opps to deal with it

[next wigeon]

You can also do the Easy Trick if you don't wanna play
-# it's tedious as fck

[next wigeon]

Just have Wis'adel and Logos and you'll be fine

[limber fox]

Wis is cool and all but she doesnt deal with everything

[next wigeon]

I see guides on it using Yato2 but I don't have her so I'm making do

[next wigeon]

Correct, she deals with most things

[spark sinew]

you need carne!

how else will you farm iron!

[limpid ore]

yato2 s2 and texas2 s2 for cutting logs

[next wigeon]

Dmg Reflect is the antithesis of Wis'adel

[pure orchid]

erm yato uses s1 for logs

[limber fox]

Mostly when they decide to raid you in the most inhuman way every designed and stomp over everything in 4 seconds into the goddamn level

[spark sinew]

texas2 is also bad for logs

[next wigeon]

Get enough Vein Guardians and you can practically murder Wis

[limpid ore]

tbh, vein guardian dmg reflect is much lower compared to the spike chest

[pure orchid]

Ambushers are strong btw

[next wigeon]

Its 200 per hit

[pure orchid]

So much trash for jellyfish boy to eat

[next wigeon]

Issue is Wis'adel hits 3 or 4 times

[limpid ore]

vs 40% dmg taken as true damage per hit

[nocturne cove]

I can't wait for the release

I'm so excited

[next wigeon]

Clump 3 of them at once and she dies

[nocturne cove]

🏃‍♂️

[pure orchid]

Vein guardian dies to yato s3

and degen

[limber fox]

[next wigeon]

I use Chongyue, SA and Degen

[limber fox]

Too much to digest

[pure orchid]

Very specific fixes they kinda suck to fight really

[spark sinew]

just use ng?

[limber fox]

I am not even that far in the desert

[limpid ore]

kestrel really help for hauling

[spark sinew]

can also just feed everyone pressure cooked soup

[limber fox]

And i already got mauled

[next wigeon]

It isn't that bad, the 3 interception points near base is basically built like a fortress for me

[limber fox]

I barely made a tenth of it

Like

My base is level 3 or smt

[next wigeon]

Thanks Yomi for giving me a Base Planner

Boshi helped with Base Design

[spark sinew]

btw #reclamation-algorithm-hub

people who actually play ra are there

🫡

[next wigeon]

I know I visit sometimes

Didn't know Sockrates was also there

[limber fox]

"Can i just make a huge spyral"

[next wigeon]

To be more help related, the main mechanic of Lapp Event is just Dmg Reduc and Fireworks right?

Is there anything else I need to note

Oh lol

I didn't notice this was #strategy

[limpid ore]

invisible enemies too ig

[next wigeon]

I just use Ines for them

Basically just make a kill chamber for em

[willow sun]

use sash + ethan for the same effect, how broken

[opaque aspen]

Help chat is in absolute fusion so i come here

Got myself a rosmontis. I assume she is utterly useless when i have wis, altho does she have a tremendously good base skill?
Nvm, a messiah scrolled 40min to find my question and answer it

[limber fox]

I fucking did it
After over 10 attempts

With these babies

[south spindle]

Eyyy congrats!

[limber fox]

Wisadel was useless

Literally couldnt get enough dp for her

So i used Ela to empty the saws on the left

And placed Ray on the leftmost spot

To kill the thingy

And the right one i kept dealing with it, slowly, using thorns and narantuya

I will never understand why ppl say mountain isnt good, my man does things unthinkable to any other unit i know

[limpid ore]

DP blockage is real

[limber fox]

i hate how u either are dp handicapped and cant buy strong things or you are absolutelly poor

[limpid ore]

anything that involved any civilian sucks

they should made Fuze s2 deals indiscriminate damage

[limber fox]

recently i played the Siracusano event, had a bunch of civilians there, i skipped the explanation, tested if they could die (they can) so i just ignored them

sometimes theres was a red bar

ig it does something

[limpid ore]

and then agent 47 spawn when bar is full

[limber fox]

oh

that invis guy?

[limpid ore]

the bald man with barcode

from hitman

[limber fox]

ic

at the right moment, none of them survived my degenbrecher

so i will keep ignoring them until i get far enough in the hard levels

[leaden linden]

OK reed is good for the middle ring one

need to have enough damage to destroy the carts

[cedar lantern]

How do you do pv 8

[leaden linden]

low end or?

[cedar lantern]

Idk what that means but I die to the last 3 carts

[dry flame]

idk maybe try kill the frist wave asap ?

then use 2 defender to tank

[leaden linden]

i need help for PV-8 and 9
https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Mostimahub

[limpid ore]

my get to go is checking oyuki clear

[sly drift]

Lapp will forever be my favourite

Anyway this stage theme is probably mechanically hardest in modern event so far.
Invisible enemies, burn damage everywhere, enemies immune when there's no carnivale, Lappland existence.

It's absurd lmao.

I can already tell just how disgusting the Ex and S stages would be

[dry stump]

oyuki clear didn't work. cuz he use logos and virtuosa.

[limpid ore]

well i have both

[dry stump]

i don't

even of kyo strat didn't work

[brisk surge]

this event sure is a difficulty spike from the last one

[dry stump]

is there any of strat, but without logos and virtuosa?

[tidal sedge]

The boss fight was fun.

So much chaos on the first try. Looking forward to S stages.

[dapper hedge]

Just reminder

As long as fireworks up, all your ops are pretty much immortals

[scarlet fulcrum]

It seems they removed skip button for tutorial stage in this event, hopefully this will change things (maybe)

lmao fresh acc got sexas

[stone silo]

is vulpis useful for braindead people like me

[vocal leaf]

does lvl90 mod3 virtuosa (with no pots) proc necrosis with 1 charge?

[glass monolith]

If you trully braindead Arknights is not recommended

[elder flume]

pretty sure Lapp is patched

i cant recreate it

[acoustic slate]

Needs like 1 tick of talent damage but yes

[vocal leaf]

i see, but then she still need the talent, hmm mine was lvl70, then it isn’t worth right?

[scarlet fulcrum]

its never worth

[glass monolith]

So... Low op RMA farming is not happening?

[pure orchid]

Fuck im going max schizo

gg s3 slow with vulpi s2 for stun

[sudden marten]

https://youtu.be/Sw8vfSWutgY?si=F6tG4DnAT_VBqQ6k

[glass monolith]

Damn i love -9 gimmick

Also i love how somehow this clusterf of everything is on fire map lags less than entire siege alter event

[south spindle]

The lion does not care for the performance of your device

[glass monolith]

I was farming rock. But i assume they decided it was great idea to predownload assets for all 3 drop types on majority of map tiles because fuck low RAM devices

[south spindle]

-._-. F

How much ram and what device

[glass monolith]

I don't know, i jsut guessing reasons behind me lagging as hell in Siege my phone event

[willow sun]

ygs think this is worth recording?

PV-9 low end

humus can be replaced by pluma or tequila

or maybe krooster instead of kroos

spot cardi don’t need levels, fang needs sl7 i think(?)

catapult and lava can be e1 20

[jovial nest]

Damn....

[elder flume]

infinite Surtr surely

[jovial nest]

i'm guessing Surtr's built-in talent overrides the gimmick and still force retreats her on her natural timer even with Carnivale?

but it is interesting that the 4 cardinal directions are buffed with ASPD tenacity

and balloons sustain the timer

[willow sun]

the range will change as you progress

or rather you can edit the range

up to bard sized diamond +1 tile

[jovial nest]

oh yeah

more than 1 type of fireworks

[willow sun]

that as well

[jovial nest]

damn, even has a built-in map preview of the event stages

[real fjord]

Here's what I've got, can't clear pv7

I only have the 2 good 3 block defenders

[willow sun]

i see e2 ines sash and teq

you should be fine

can you send a screenshot of the stage? i can’t check right now

[sonic pine]

Does anyone know why ulpianus is good in IS5? Is it just S3 with initial SP?

[real fjord]

The cars on the right side take too long to kill and the reinforcement cars drive right in

[willow sun]

are you protecting the fuse?

if the fireworks go off all cars lose DR and they’ll redirect themselves towards it

[elder flume]

thoughts on borrowing Virt S1 instead

and you have 2 holes to use

[real fjord]

My god, finally got it. Needed to switch mudrock and spot, still feels like I fluked it lol

[elder flume]

Virt cheeses this event so much

[glass monolith]

(Pulls out Totter)

[stable plank]

Hi guys I’m a noob and idk shit I watched some videos but still bad could some one tell which ones I should upgrade and use ?

I have this operators right now

[elder flume]

if you copy guides a lot then all 2 and 3 stars
raise Lappland Mountain Amiya Perfumer
if you need more ranged then Jessica Podenco is ok

Mousse
is interesting when theres Astesia hmm

i think Mousse is better long term but Astesia can help early game better

[glass monolith]

3* Kroos good because Skill + Talent do good damage. You can get 5* Kroos from side events Invitation to Wine (Just get her and bail, no need to do entire event). Also you might consider Tequila from Dosolles Holidays as physical nuke button but i guess you can just Liskarm into support of someones Wisadel

[full terrace]

@pure orchid how was your pull? Mine is disgusting. 131 pulls only Vulpis and Hool

[willow sun]

PV-9 low end

[full terrace]

I want the freaking Lappland

[sudden marten]

https://youtu.be/Sw8vfSWutgY?si=F6tG4DnAT_VBqQ6k

[willow sun]

they already cleared it btw

[jovial nest]

these 2 are gonna be joining me through most content in the game

[vocal leaf]

we literally went from the worst and most boring event mechanic to the best

[willow sun]

lol it’s fine i was just saying

[wicked minnow]

this event mechanic more annoying

[vocal leaf]

but it’s fun

[jovial nest]

damn imagine that. different opinions

[wicked minnow]

na that's fucked up. i cant imagine such horrid scenes

[jovial nest]

I just need Yu and Blazer and my dedicated arts team will be complete.

[vocal leaf]

tbf siege event was as sht as she is, they made it lore accurate

[wicked minnow]

yeah the event was ass, aint no defending that 😭

[jovial nest]

Vina's event doesn't even have the most boring ass gimmick

that goes to LE

[wicked minnow]

vina event doesnt have a gimmick if you just ignore it 🫡

[jovial nest]

not just boring

you WANT to ignore it

problem with Vina's gimmick is

[wicked minnow]

oh yeah i dont know what they cooked with that event

[jovial nest]

it doesn't give equipment to tiles already occupied

that was utter shit

[wicked minnow]

i love how some enemies punish you for using the event mechanic

very cool

[jovial nest]

some LE enemies punish you for using it

some LE enemies punish you for not using it

[wicked minnow]

such peak game design

[jovial nest]

but it was just garbage to design that not using it means a shittier SP rec

Pepe's event also had enemies that counter the best solution to the gimmick (the mummies that get more DEF/RES for each hit it takes)

but at least the gimmick was well designed

[vocal leaf]

that’s the thing, they didn’t cook, it’s half cooked, to not say raw and rotten

[jovial nest]

it was a decent idea

but they really shouldn't have made using the gimmick be "oh now you have normal SP rec"

a buff would've been better

[elder flume]

Stainless shill

Or Vulpis shill

[latent halo]

[wicked minnow]

@astral cosmos valarqvin mod is so fucking peak 🥹

yes the calculations were correct

s2 needs 9 hits for bosses now isntead of 11 and s1 needs 2 blasts instead of 3 for elites

for normal enemies however nothing really changes

whoever cooked up this module needs a raise

[jovial nest]

Ooooh I'm down with this.

at least its better than the risky tenacity that is more valuable if you never heal (but at risk of Carnevale ending)

[wicked minnow]

wait does this mean all your units deal burn damage

[jovial nest]

i mean yeah

it doesn't say any limitation

[wicked minnow]

i mean they'd have to be in range ofc

[jovial nest]

thats not an issue

thats the point of the fireworks

[wicked minnow]

i read it as fireworks deal burn damage for some reason

the first time i read it

[jovial nest]

oh, lulz

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its not rigged anymore? Lmao

[wicked minnow]

wtf

wtf

broooooooooo

[scarlet fulcrum]

They listen the feedback maybe

Sadly thats not my main 💀

[wicked minnow]

😭

[scarlet fulcrum]

GL on 5 days login mission

[jovial nest]

imagine having more than 1 acct

splitting luck

[wicked minnow]

why split luck when one account is welfare only ez

[scarlet fulcrum]

ah yea the classic perception, not really wrong for some ppl

[jovial nest]

there's still luck involved in such an account

drop rates and such, free pulls

....and of course

lets not forget

contest prizes

[wicked minnow]

im bouta find out

i used my old alt as the returnee code for the welfare alt

imma see how it goes

[jovial nest]

I just didn't bother

i hate referrals and referring returnees

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just classic problem tbh

[jovial nest]

i'm way past trying to make dupe accts for these referral systems

[scarlet fulcrum]

The event kinda hassle to begin with

This kind of type event

new acc works btw, more like any acc

Yea i think its not rigged anymore. Another useful item

T3 mat selector

[jovial nest]

I only did the Share

got LMD

no issues for me since that's always useful to have

[scarlet fulcrum]

True

[willow sun]

solution is to go scorchy charge and just spam defenders

[willow sun]

i thought they patched that?

or at least tried to

[jovial nest]

BTW if you plan to use CS, would you default S2 as a staller? The ATK intervals in S3 is too long for me even with a wider smokescreen and some stun.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Maybe the rate getting better yea

[willow sun]

fr any account? like i can just put in my friend's account

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just play through 0-6 and u can accept any invitation. 1 invit per acc

[willow sun]

?????

so like

if i just ask my level 70 friend to pop in my code

it'd work

or does it have to be a new account and then play through 0-6

[scarlet fulcrum]

i can try the former

[willow sun]

alr

making a new ak account rn, i fiend

[glass monolith]

Multi account 1-7ing?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Active one can't accept yea, so just make new acc

[willow sun]

do salts work?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea, as long as u finish 0-6

[willow sun]

[terse sierra]

Yostar does it again...

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its nice the rate getting better 👍

[willow sun]

sorry one last question @scarlet fulcrum

do you put in code before or after beating 0-6

[scarlet fulcrum]

After

[willow sun]

okok, thanks 🫡

[scarlet fulcrum]

U login after that

[willow sun]

so
-make new account
-beat 0-6
-log into event
-input code
-profit

[scarlet fulcrum]

Correct

[willow sun]

the goat

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also can Login to ur main for lottery after that

[rapid junco]

Omg hi kirn

[scarlet fulcrum]

Hi i.a

[twin plume]

do i want to E2lv90 Virtuosa?

[wicked minnow]

depending on how much you investment you have in everything it could be nice or it could maybe not even make a difference

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can mod or build another ops with that resources so yea

[wicked minnow]

she has a lot of breakpoints and stuff. generally it's safer to just max everything

but also that's a bit yeaaaah

you have other priority ops you didnt build yet?

also

dragongjy has a calcualtor for virtuosa

so you can try fiddling around with that

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea they are playing for long enough so probably no problem on their side, even with bad base setup

[willow sun]

i got more fucking lmd

[scarlet fulcrum]

😭

dang

[jovial nest]

this is ZT tile theme, right?

cause it looks absurdly spectacular when designed like this (Virt paradox).

[limpid ore]

yeah

[jovial nest]

lulz

[limpid ore]

well, at least it's not the leithanean royal army from four kings wars

[wicked minnow]

it in fact was the fireworks dealing the burn damage. the tenacity seems better

[jovial nest]

whats the fourth fireworks?

[wicked minnow]

cold for 4 seconds

[jovial nest]

also i am not too much of a fan of the ASPD tenacity

cause i undo the bloody effects anyway if i want to heal

unless there's enough balloons to keep everyone immortal

[limpid ore]

the tenacity apparently based on the firework HP instead of your operator

[jovial nest]

.....WHAT?

in other words....ok everything makes sense

Carnevale is indeed a double edge of effects

except the immortality you get

[wicked minnow]

wait

[jovial nest]

...if kept alive

[wicked minnow]

that's kinda cooked

[limpid ore]

my operator attack faster at full health while the firework is dying

[willow sun]

scorch has like

literally no downside

[twin plume]

Pretty sure i have the resources

[willow sun]

your ops are immortal so the dying part doesn't matter

and all the enemies just get slapped with burn

[twin plume]

Just didnt know the breakpoints for her

[willow sun]

which does a shitton of elemental damage

[twin plume]

Didnt know there was a dedicated calculator for it

But if im mod2/mod3 anyw

[jovial nest]

I'm not doing the latter stages yet. But the earlier stages really dont give enough bloons to keep it alive so you can't just ignore healing.

But yeah, Scorch is just the easiest to use alongside Meyja

[elder flume]

Its more like theres stages with none

[jovial nest]

And i can imagine future EX and S stages wouldnt just give you easy activation and lots of bloons

[elder flume]

Bad maps

[jovial nest]

So i cant ever rely on the immortality

[willow sun]

i mean

you could also just

toggle off the firework range

so it does nothing

just ignore the event mechanic obv

[jovial nest]

meh

the reason why you can manipulate the fireworks' range so specifically is to have tiles purely target what you want

Scorch makes it easier by you just targetting ground tiles

and leave your ranged ops safe

hell

if you customize it well enough

only enemies get the fireworks treatment

all I'm saying is.....don't use the fireworks for that Surtr effect

i was thinking to use the -ASPD and -MSPD (2nd one) and have it only affect enemy areas

but too many ranged harassers for my liking

[terse sierra]

With enough meta units you can set the firework to be just that square and ignore it

[maiden hound]

i mean just use ines amirite

[jovial nest]

unlike LE and GO though, the gimmick here is something i actually want to use

[tall raptor]

PV9 tips?

[elder flume]

Spawncamp balloons

[wicked minnow]

activate the firework machine. have someone kill the balloons

your units wont ever die as long as the machine is one

and it should never really turn off as long as you kill the balloons

[elder flume]

Also use Kal S3

Can bypass DR befote carnivale

You either spawncamp enemy or camp firework since all will go there

[tall raptor]

this stage sucks

[elder flume]

It has balloons

[tall raptor]

even so I'm still losing

[tall raptor]

I cant stop them from attacking the cannon

[west fern]

it is okay here to ask for assistance for creating a squad out of my characters

[narrow sonnet]

I can show you my clear if you want?

[west fern]

I have these, I want to clear chapter 5 to the end chapters

[narrow sonnet]

You definitely need to level up several of those ops more.

You will, unfortunately, struggle a bit when it comes to later stages as they can be very difficult and sustain is key.

[maiden hound]

ines mountain rockrock pinecone vulpis kroosalter ptilopsis sussuro thorns steward cuora spot would be my choice
anyways level them equally

[west fern]

I see, it would be great if you can help me create a squad and some additional operators to build for certain situations

[maiden hound]

start building base slaves I guess (refer to pin [4.] in #r-i-i-c )

[tall raptor]

Victory

[narrow sonnet]

You got it or that just an "affirmative" from you?

[tall raptor]

I won

[narrow sonnet]

Ah

[west fern]

these right?

[maiden hound]

looks fine
mountain, ines, rockrock, sussuro, ptilopsis, kroos alter all use skill 2 though. also try to get mountain's module

[west fern]

maybe wisadel is the key

[tall raptor]

ok PV-10 I have no clue what I'm doing

[narrow sonnet]

Being honest: she will trivialize a lot of stages on her own, but there will be stages where she alone is not enough. Nowhere close.

[west fern]

how about thorns? his 3rd skill?

[maiden hound]

yeah, thorns use third skill. his second is bad

[spark sinew]

btw you really should raise base workers

otherwise your leveling progress will be too slow

[narrow sonnet]

People only use his 3rd skill unless they still have him sub-E2 for whatever reason.

[west fern]

I see, I'll check those base operators later

[west fern]

the royal guard token? expensive asf

[narrow sonnet]

Modules are not referring to tokens. Those are two separate things.

[maiden hound]

no, the module. bottom right of screen in operator overview window

[narrow sonnet]

One's for potentials and the other's for augmented passive/trait effects.

[west fern]

oh the price of freedom?

[maiden hound]

yeah
level 1

[full terrace]

Farming durians 🤤

[jovial nest]

hahaha, let my enemies burn

[spark sinew]

what was pv6

the problem with not deploying in the radius is that enemies will just turn fireworks off

[west fern]

these are good enough right

[jovial nest]

i really couldn't care when fireworks deploy

as long as its not hitting me

[coarse patio]

How to defeat this stage ??

[narrow sonnet]

Your top DPS are underleveled as well as your sustain.

[spark sinew]

you know you can just set the range to 0 as well, right

[jovial nest]

but i still want enemies to burn once it goes off

[maiden hound]

which stage are you referring to?

[jovial nest]

so its more of a strength i can use but its fine for me if it doesn't go off immediately

[narrow sonnet]

Are you using any sustain?

[west fern]

for base?

[jovial nest]

of course. The stages don't give enough balloons to rely purely on carnevale duration

[narrow sonnet]

So being in proximity of fireworks shouldn't be too big of a problem.

[maiden hound]

base? baseworker needs e1 level 1 for 4* and e2 level 1 for 5* and 6*. focus on quartz/gravel/frostleaf/shirayuki only to e1l1

[jovial nest]

also I'm making my tile layout NOT hit my ops

that does mean customizing it per stage

but I'm fine with that

like so

[west fern]

yeah, I mean if the operators I chose are good enough

[maiden hound]

eh just choose the four I mentioned above and raise em
ptilopsis/mayer needs dorothy to function iirc

[onyx granite]

i got up to stage 8 but the trucks are kind of a pain

so i stopped for now

[jovial nest]

everything burns but me

[west fern]

the one u mentioned above are both for trade post and factory right

[tidal sedge]

so i have a question, is there a recommended support i could use for PV-3?

the question is in general, i just linked the video because i'm using the characters from the video.

[maiden hound]

gravel shira frostleaf for factory, quartz for tp yeah
gravel works with gold and the other two works with exp factory though

[jovial nest]

this is pretty nice for frozen enthusiasts

i can't wait to rerun this event with my Yu burn team complete alongside Scorchy

[nocturne cove]

@astral cosmos

Can you lend me your aurora

[elder flume]

Recommended support usually switches between Ling Wis Logos Virtuosa Mlynar for any stage
PV3 included

Maximize balloons whenever you can

[rapid junco]

Ling usage

[full terrace]

Hi ia

[coarse patio]

PV-8

[elder flume]

Borrow Virt S1

Top right corner face down

Pretty sure E2 Pinecone can handle middle

[verbal sparrow]

real honest question: is vulpis skippable
or maybe early high-def waves that ines might struggle to clear, might justify having her (or maybe we can just pop texas alter)

[elder flume]

I cant see myself going for Vulpis

[hasty spruce]

all of these damn stages are full of DOGS 😭

[elder flume]

Sure she has helidrop S2 and Bag able S3 but dp is low and i very much dont need camo after skill end

[spark sinew]

super skippable

mumu better as a second vang if you really wanted

[verbal sparrow]

yeah mumu is already skirting the line of being benched

vanguard is just a crowded role

[elder flume]

Huh

[hasty spruce]

projekt red is the only option i got g 💔

[elder flume]

1. Why not Canta first
2. Why not wait for enemy to be in Red range
3. Why Red support

4. Why not Red S1

[hasty spruce]

tried these earlier

[hasty spruce]

ohh

[wicked minnow]

still need aurora?

[maiden hound]

courier is good for this stage i think

[pure orchid]

#salt-mines message Mine was... also disgusting...

[nocturne cove]

Fuck you

You should quit

🤧

[pure orchid]

Guys im so sorry

I did it again 😭

[wicked minnow]

@nocturne cove sent in dms

[hasty spruce]

Everythings not working

[jovial nest]

can't borrow an Ines?

Even if only E1, Ines' S2 tears up most dog rushes

[scarlet mortar]

canta starter is one thing, but why so many ranged ops

half of them won't do anything for most of the stage

[hasty spruce]

Nothing on my supporters

[narrow sonnet]

How so? She's clutched very dangerous stages for me.

[verbal sparrow]

I usually just have myrtle and ines to print dp and then deploy the big guns

[hasty spruce]

All of my grounds are so damn expensive

[scarlet mortar]

but your ranged ops would die anw to the altars

er, altar

[limpid ore]

oh...

[hasty spruce]

Good point but everyone dies so fast to the dogs

[limpid ore]

i hate that map

[scarlet mortar]

are your ops E1L50

[hasty spruce]

I mean yeah

[limpid ore]

could use noir corne for early wave tbh

[hasty spruce]

Getting materials is hard

[scarlet mortar]

if they are then you're fine

kill the heralds so the dogs don't get that much atk

[hasty spruce]

Cant even do nothing

[narrow sonnet]

It must be our playstyles because I would only very rarely choose Ines over Muelsyse.

[hasty spruce]

Everyone dies so fast

[scarlet mortar]

stage's supposed to be a pioneer shill anw

[verbal sparrow]

really? I thought ines was like default pick these days

[scarlet mortar]

most of this chapter is dog rushes

[wicked minnow]

ines is in fact the default pick these days

[narrow sonnet]

*shrug* Can't say, don't keep up with the meta. I just pull for who looks good and let the chips fall where they may.

[hasty spruce]

No WAY 😭

[narrow sonnet]

Muelsyse has been extremely helpful since her debut.

[scarlet mortar]

good ol days of punishing flags

[hasty spruce]

Been stuck in this chapter for almost 2 weeks

[limpid ore]

and it gets worse once ursus army join the fray

[scarlet mortar]

if not pioneers then chargers

[elder flume]

Ines is faster start dp
Mumu is safer lanehold before dp

Both are valid

[narrow sonnet]

Yup.

[limpid ore]

pioneer kinda death in this chapter

[narrow sonnet]

When things were all but guaranteed to leak, Muelsyse was there for me.

[scarlet mortar]

courier does very well

[narrow sonnet]

When things were about to swarm my ops from afar, Muelsyse just skunks them with a Exia copy.

[scarlet mortar]

the pioneer just has to not be scav or texas in this stage particularly

[verbal sparrow]

someone still using exia

[narrow sonnet]

She pairs well with Muelsyse.

[spark sinew]

we have ela, so

[verbal sparrow]

I would pair with high-ATK like typhon

[narrow sonnet]

We do. I'm just saying she's a viable option.

Typhon is a bit too slow with a niche range for how I'd otherwise use Exia and/or Ela.

She's great on her own, but not as a flowing shape copy.

[elder flume]

27 DP
Your Red friend is prob defective

[narrow sonnet]

Also, bad timing on the deploy.

[full terrace]

You got Texas and Vulpis in 26 pulls, there is nothing disgusting about that

I got Vulpis and Hool in 131 pulls complete garbage

[pure orchid]

Its disgusting good

Vulpis and hool is burning garbage barrel for warmth on cold homless nights type shi

[narrow sonnet]

Damn straight. Texalter is huge on one's account.

[narrow pendant]

Fell off

[pure orchid]

Did u want lapp?

[narrow sonnet]

Also, this is my first time getting Penance on my account and wow. You'd have to try really hard for her to die. This is amazing.

[narrow sonnet]

How so?

[wicked minnow]

i'd say cuz there's better units now
-# she's also boring as hell to use imo

[narrow sonnet]

Such as? I still use her often.

[narrow pendant]

She was relagated to either a stun crutch with s3, or funni res shred for art comp with s2

Is she bad? Of course not
But shes not as "gamebreaking" as she was around her release

[narrow sonnet]

Ah... that's what you meant.

[wicked minnow]

ye i didnt mean that she was bad either

[scarlet mortar]

falling off the broken spot still makes her very good

[jovial nest]

and here i am preferring Vulpis S3 spam over bringing a flagbearer

[narrow pendant]

I got devasted during my pulls, but got vulpi, now i'll cope and pull till the banner ends for hopes of laptop🥹
Thankfully everything is a skippable garbage till Yu

[narrow sonnet]

I kind of hoped that she'd powercreep Bagpipe. Alas.

[jovial nest]

dude, I no longer use Bagpipe

hell, the recent CCBs haven't used her at all

[narrow sonnet]

I still bring her everywhere.

[jovial nest]

since its better to spam Agents

[elder flume]

I use Bag like 70% of the time

Im spoiled by insta vg skill

[narrow sonnet]

I mean I did clear everything in the last CC, with Bagpipe.

[narrow sonnet]

Exactly.

[jovial nest]

I like VG printers that can hold their lanes

so i can prioritize dropping ranged ops faster

with Vulp, spamming S3 is close to the power of a flagbearer

[narrow sonnet]

Yeah I mean, it depends. Playstyles differ.

[wicked minnow]

i actually despise vanguards, ines is the only one i bring because she like does a lot and prints good dp

[jovial nest]

so i can finally stop using flagbearers (UNLESS THERE'S DP RISK)

[narrow sonnet]

"Despise vanguards". Uh.

[wicked minnow]

you dont need them for 95% of the game

[jovial nest]

thats why i like Ines and Vulp. They have value without needing DP

[wicked minnow]

ines is just kinda nice in comparison to most of them

[elder flume]

This set can break a few maps by deploying 5s into the map

[wicked minnow]

i didnt get vulp sadly

[narrow sonnet]

Might just be the way we play. I find much comfort in bringing my three vanguards.

[jovial nest]

i prefer only 2

Make a VG-heavy team and use Swireter

[cyan gorge]

I like using Ponci

[wicked minnow]

i mean i understand the comfort angle. vanguards are a bit comfortable but i'd be hardpressed to tell you that they are good units in most cases

[narrow sonnet]

Tried her. Wasn't a fan.

[wicked minnow]

i built her but didnt use her yet

[narrow sonnet]

There was maybe one Stultivera Navis stage where she had a tile made just for her. Alas.

[hasty spruce]

💔

[cyan gorge]

I like her cause she's the tankiest bird

also afk dp for anni

[jovial nest]

the point of VG is they're cheap

and they make you drop everyone faster

and since some of my teams are DP-expensive

yeah i'd sure love some

[narrow sonnet]

Yes. And Poncirus, unfortunately, takes forever to really get going compared to who I typically use.

[elder flume]

Either way bringing Ines S2 support is better
Gets you the dp and kills to setup faster

[hasty spruce]

Ines is nowhere to be found in my supports

[elder flume]

Find in #friend-id

Mountain prob also works

[jovial nest]

btw

does Icebreaker 2 happen before or after Yu's event?

[somber falcon]

you were 1 sec away from just deploying lapp

[opal drift]

I see this stage

I have two choices:
-sacrifice either of the horizontal tiles
-sacrifice 1 6 star slot for a 2nd elemental medic, which, it's unquestioned, Honeyberry, a 5

[elder flume]

How about not using medic choice

[opal drift]

nope

the enemy is dealing elemental damage

so nope

[wicked minnow]

wdym nope

[elder flume]

You cant die during carnevale

[pure orchid]

Just carnivale forever angle

[jovial nest]

my dude

[hasty spruce]

I was panicking

[jovial nest]

Meyja can solo Ele dmg mitigation

[opal drift]

if there is an elemental damage inflicting enemy, it means calling for elemental medics asap

[jovial nest]

how spread out are you?

[pure orchid]

If the stage permits, they explicitly dont want u using medic

[cyan gorge]

Do you even need a medic for this stage? keep popping balloons and no one dies

[wicked minnow]

if there's elemental damage in the stage ignoring it is usually your number 1 best bet

[opal drift]

nah

I don't want to deal with the debuffs if it is bursting

this is how I spread it out, see blue box

I use snipping tool and use its pen feature there

[narrow sonnet]

SP-3 is... definitely something else.

[elder flume]

Idk what you have but not sure why something like this isnt viable for you

Unless this is nodamageknights

[jovial nest]

considering where the fireworks are

yeah, it was made to abuse the immortality feature

tenacity ASPD would be perfect also for popping balloons

[elder flume]

The range you need to hit those balloons from there

[jovial nest]

My GG, Lapptop, Wis doesn't care

[cyan gorge]

I had Thorns and Naran on balloon duty, did fine without aspd buff

[inland tapir]

Hey guys, sorry if I am using wrong channel... I am a returning Arknights player that didn't progress far. Thing is, I don't really understand how to make a good team composition since I don't even remember if the characters I have are any good... is it okay to post my characters here and ask help with creating my go-to squad?

[jovial nest]

that reminds me

so many still use Thorns even though it takes way too long for him to get to...."tolerable" levels

I don't even use Thorns in farming maps these days. Too slow to get to 2nd S3 activation

[pure orchid]

im engineer

[cyan gorge]

I don't even like Thorns normally, I just wanted a lazy farm

[pure orchid]

Havent played this stage yet, can u carnivale forever?

[jovial nest]

Typhon S2, Logos S1, Mountain S2, Ulp S2

those are my picks for AFK stuff these days

[cyan gorge]

I don't have 2 of those

[pure orchid]

and lappalter stage?

[elder flume]

PV 10 is no infinite iirc

[narrow sonnet]

For that stage @shadow

[elder flume]

Here is fine

[inland tapir]

Okay, ty

[opal drift]

This is what I would do if I bring Eyjaberry and still go for full 6 star route(I ain't an AK pro, I don't wanna be one, so I will keep bring at least 1 elemental medic on elemental damage stages)
Eyja on purple star = squad spread on yellow box, ignore the whole red line(no ops in it)
Eyja on blue star = squad spread on green box, ignore the whole orange line(no ops in it)

[inland tapir]

So, here are my 5-6 star characters... any way to make them work? I am currently at 4-4 level and am having trouble to clear it with 3 stars. Any help would be appreciated🙏

[opal drift]

this is what I would do if I sacrifice 1 6 star for the sake of 2nd elemental medic(honeyberry), spread everyone in blue box

so IDK which the better one, but clearly, for me, elemental medic is a must

[elder flume]

Hows your block placement for 4-4
Since its technically doable without deploying ops

[inland tapir]

lets just say I am not the greatest TD gamer😭

[somber falcon]

block the paths to make all enemies go through the red tile on the middle to reach their target blue box

[elder flume]

Only fast E2 i would say is Ulpianus
You still want to E2 the rest of 6stars eventually

Only 5star i would raise from that is prob Liskarm Amiya Akafuyu
Cliffheart to E1 atleast

4stars Cutter Myrtle Jaye Podenco Shaw is pretty decent to raise

[scarlet mortar]

reminder that the 0op clear is not 3*

[clever hedge]

why akafuyu over specter? Thought the general consensus was that akafuyu isn't great

[scarlet mortar]

nope

that requires actual dps

when you can just use the tiles and they kill everything

[opal drift]

I always use full 6 star squad so such strats is possibru for me

[opal drift]

yes, the tile takes HP

But no, it is not how I do my strats

[scarlet mortar]

er yh, consider that that's bad advice for new players

(they don't have many levelled 6*s)

[opal drift]

it is not for new players, it is my own strat, clearly "me", I dunno if the post was directed to me on how to put units or nah

[viral edge]

How long are gold cert ops normally in the shop for? Just tryna plan out how much time I have to save for reed and ines

[elder flume]

Shes decent for 1v1
Specter is great too if you need a 15s blocker

[scarlet mortar]

yh my q is why are you blogging lmao

[cyan gorge]

2 weeks

[scarlet mortar]

if your strat isn't applicable to the new player asking there's.... not much point?

[opal drift]

I didn't read the previous one... so yeah, consider it's gone

[viral edge]

Ty

[jovial nest]

No one has answered my question yet but

[clever hedge]

I wouldn't recommend raising a 5* musha esp to a newbie considering they tend to need high investment to be functional

[jovial nest]

if you were to raise CS

which skill would you default?

[maiden hound]

s3 I think
s1 skill ceiling is low and s2 does not exist

[dusky hawk]

Is there anyone good here

[jovial nest]

interesting. For me, S3 barely helps anything so I chose S2 because she just acts like a 40% miss rate to help your tanks survive

[sly drift]

2 imo.
Reduce enemy hit rate is the only niche CS do. RNG ing enemy sounds interesting.

Also it tied to talent, so Module will certainly do something later

[jovial nest]

easy to apply due to her FRD nature as well

[cyan gorge]

Saria (if no Shu) and Greyy

[viral edge]

Saria

[dusky hawk]

Should I just make another new acc

[narrow sonnet]

Lappland, Saria (high priority), Amiya (need to level her to progress eventually), Cuora, Deepcolor (very useful with high enough investment). Matoimaru can be okay.

[dusky hawk]

I feel like I could get a better pull

[viral edge]

Thought this was good saw it in the help chat

[jovial nest]

....help chat sheeesh

[maiden hound]

not the worst chat

[narrow sonnet]

If you want to try rerolling, feel free, but Saria is 2nd best in her niche.

[jovial nest]

Saria is also STILL relevant to harder content

[dusky hawk]

Oh k

[jovial nest]

she's the only one who can still do that S3

nothing else has come to take that place

[dusky hawk]

What is her s3?

[narrow sonnet]

You know what's funny? I have never used her S3. Only S2.

[jovial nest]

and you know what's funnier?

I've never used her S2

[narrow sonnet]

Playstyles™️

[jovial nest]

problem with S2 is it triggers at the shittiest damage done

[sly drift]

I just read that CS S2M3 mod3 do 75% reduce hit rate. isnt this decent number

[jovial nest]

oh you got pricked by a lousy crossbow arrow?

S2 ACTIVATE

[jovial nest]

50%....

[narrow sonnet]

Oh I know. It's the AoE for me that justified my use of it.

[inland tapir]

ty all again, while you are here I wanted to ask if my current comp any good (I guess I would be using it until I upgrade other characters)

[jovial nest]

whoever did that maffs need to check their brain

[jovial nest]

wait.....lemme check. I didn't check CS's module

[sly drift]

Module is -25%
S2M3 is 2.5 times
You do math, I don't

[jovial nest]

I'm calculating only 50% for S2M3

62.5%

75% needs 3x shit

[sly drift]

Oh right

[jovial nest]

either way, S2 has its purpose

S3......who the fuck designed that atk interval gaps...

[sly drift]

Doesn't it stack with Ascalon s3 or something

[jovial nest]

i really wouldn't bother double stacking miss rates

[sly drift]

Just for fun.
Meta wise we wouldn't even give a fk with hit rate

[narrow sonnet]

Who is CS referring to again?

[jovial nest]

is Ascalon's S3 miss rate or dodge rate? I'm guessing both since Ambushers have built-in dodge?

[cyan gorge]

CrownSlayer

[narrow sonnet]

Oh jesus.

[jovial nest]

CounterStrike

anyways

I raised her purely because she has a 35% EXP for base

real useful for a base enthusiast like me

[narrow sonnet]

Yeah Hypergrpyh really missed that April 1st window by a few weeks.

[jovial nest]

i mean it's more like

what did you except?

they are not making powercreep consistent

if anything I'm fucking happy no one has beaten Wis yet

[narrow sonnet]

What did I expect? A non-meme 6* in 2025.

[jovial nest]

unlike other people, i do not want another Wis...until 2 years from now

[narrow sonnet]

I'd totally expect a meme 3 and 4, but 6?

Yeah I mean I wasn't expecting her to be Wisadel either.

[jovial nest]

my dude

[narrow sonnet]

But... not... this.

[jovial nest]

you must've missed Vigil and Lessing

[narrow sonnet]

Ahaha... no. I didn't.

[jovial nest]

Even if CS is worse now, I'd fucking use CS over those 2

those 2 don't add any utility i need

i rank operators based on their role

most people only think DPS

thats why I rank Ines to even be higher than Wis

and ngl....i'd like there to be a multi-utility ops again

they might've tried with Thornstar

but i'm not a fan

[narrow sonnet]

I don't even rank operators. I just feel them out and if I like them, I use them.

[sly drift]

What makes me disappointed is that there's opportunity to make Crownslayer good defensive executor just like gravel. But HG were like.. "Fuck player, this is free unit"

[narrow sonnet]

But putting Ines over Wisadel, that is... quite the take.

[jovial nest]

consdiering CS is useful in base, that makes her already better than 75% of the operators i have

[narrow sonnet]

I agree with this take.

[jovial nest]

It ain't a lie. I used Ines on more content than Wisadel

[narrow sonnet]

Opposite for me.

[jovial nest]

she's useful in RA, IS, and a mainstay in CCBs

[narrow sonnet]

What is CCBs exactly

[jovial nest]

sure you might love Wis on your autofarming

but i have other options than Wis on that regard

[cyan gorge]

I just see Wis as excessive

I'm here to play a game, not press-the-death-button-and-win simulator

[elder flume]

@inland tapir i havent watched cuz im outside and dont wana use data to watch but thats the start
Change Feater to Shaw with skill level 4
Add more ops for after CS is dead

https://youtu.be/FZMBB6kqRZo?si=EFSsnAmWujFgLbD_

[jovial nest]

well, there are content in AK wherein Wis ain't ever gonna be seen as useful

people just don't want that absurd of a challenge on their plate

they ask for difficulty since Wis is killing it. But they refuse to play those game modes

[inland tapir]

Speaking of hookmasters, when should I use Gladiia and when I should I use Cliffheart?

[hasty spruce]

will gravel be slightly good in this stage

[somber falcon]

that maxed underflow is a whiplash
vendela needs a little thought with s2, and lumen is too expensive for basic healing but you already raised so it's fine ig

[jovial nest]

...only use Gladiia is my advise

the only reason you'd use Cliffheart is she does True dmg on S2

[narrow sonnet]

Well seeing as I have 323 operators, I'm definitely not lacking options.

[inland tapir]

Ah thank you for the video!

[somber falcon]

and what are you expecting her to do there?

[elder flume]

Sometimes i need 2-4 pullers
So thats a usecase ig
Gladiia has better S1 but slightly harder to cycle S2 compared to Cliff

[narrow sonnet]

Gravel is just a helidrop to tank something really quick or stop a leak. She has no other utility.

[hasty spruce]

stall atleast 1 dog

[narrow sonnet]

At least one dog.

sigh

[somber falcon]

how nice, a single dog takes longer to reach your blue box

[narrow sonnet]

Yeah, you've got other things to worry about if that's why you're considering her.

[inland tapir]

Yeah I wasn't thinking straight when I leveled Underflow I guess😅

[somber falcon]

you need to think your strat more instead of throwing random things to the wall and seeing what sticks

[jovial nest]

.....a map with 2 lanes and holes dedicated to those lanes....that's quite the rarity..

[maiden hound]

underflow is not that bad of an option to be honest

[hasty spruce]

i managed to win all of them

[maiden hound]

but early e2? damn rough

[jovial nest]

I'm guessing they can't borrow an S2 Mountain?

that would solve 1 of the lanes with the red bursts

[somber falcon]

there's an e2 lapp there

[jovial nest]

why the fuck is that the chosen borrow?

[maiden hound]

do you like thornstar in base

[somber falcon]

no, i meant they have her

[jovial nest]

the onyl reason I'd get him, yes

prior to Yu

[somber falcon]

that team can clear without borrowing

[jovial nest]

i was about to use him in a general squad

post-Yu

i made dedicated physical and arts teams

Thornstar is no longer considered

[narrow sonnet]

ngl, I forget that I can even borrow

I'm so used to doing stages without lol

[jovial nest]

well that's something i will keep reminding players that need the help

borrows will always be there

and if the map ain't a good place to farm, no hassle and guilt free

[cyan gorge]

Isn't 7-9 the borrow Mountain for ez mode stage?

[hasty spruce]

Its what they say

[cyan gorge]

Yeah if you can plug the first dog rush with Mountain, you have plenty of time to set up for the other two lanes

and Mountain just holds by himself the entire stage

[civic bear]

it the noir stage

best opener

[hasty spruce]

S3 or s2

[civic bear]

2 ofc

[cyan gorge]

s2

[jovial nest]

i never would've imagined with my past self that Mountain would outlive Thorns in terms of MY usability

VG cost, absurd regen. 2 block. Decent trash killer.

before Crushers were a thing, I made him the de-facto tank against arts dmg

[cyan gorge]

modern trash mobs have bs like dodge and high def tho

[jovial nest]

no need to tell me

I remember that all too well

fucking dodge durins

in Galter's event

Mountain was really useful

[civic bear]

wha

modern trash high def where

[jovial nest]

in stalling them until the dodge is gone

[cyan gorge]

back in a time where I still brought lapp everywhere cause I was still relatively new

[jovial nest]

not too high. they might be stating higher than average

making the usual start of a map rough

[jovial nest]

back in a time where i still brought Thorns because i thought his damage was still really good

it took a LONG while before i realized that that hard-earned S3 is barely even damaging elite enemies

an operator that takes too long to become a good trash killer

[cyan gorge]

I didn't even own Thorns till 2 months ago

[civic bear]

honestly his problem less of damaging elite but more that

[jovial nest]

thats why i find it sad....that a lot of players still use Thorns in Icebreaker 1

[civic bear]

bro dies at start

[jovial nest]

they could've used someone better

[jovial nest]

bro dies at start

[civic bear]

i remember i tried him to open h12-4

[jovial nest]

and if he survives for double S3 activation

it ain't worth it

[civic bear]

he dies to the sarkaz sword

[jovial nest]

times are so different now

heh

he used to carry so hard

but mobs....have changed

~~ me trying to sound like Solid Snake~~

the biggest deal breaker for me in finally removing Thorns was

in order to fuel all his off-recs for S3

i actually had to....NOT deploy ranged DPS operators cause they kill enemies faster than he can charge

sure, we can add Chen or even 4 Suis (Shu talent)

[heady snow]

Why don’t you use stainless s3?

[jovial nest]

but its no longer worth it these days

no longer worth it

even if we have shortcuts

like i said, he barely even damages modern elites