strategy

[celest kayak]

Yea, that's not enough...

[teal moon]

what is your ela level and mastery?

[celest kayak]

E2L75 Mod. 1 SL4

[teal moon]

increase her skill level and mod

[nocturne cove]

Why is she sl4

Rofl

[celest kayak]

Getting mats, still need a ton of LMD for Mod 2

[scarlet mortar]

why's her skill not levelled

[teal moon]

you surely have some skill book and mats for skill level 6 at least

[scarlet mortar]

skills are dirt cheap to level compared to mods

especially before M3

[celest kayak]

I tried using Marcille, but spiders took her out first

[celest kayak]

Books aren't the problem

[teal moon]

send your krooster, maybe you have someone it can solo the stage and you don't know about it

[celest kayak]

dr_yagami

[teal moon]

and skill upgrades are dirty cheap, try to see if you can raise it

[celest kayak]

Getting polyester for that rn

[teal moon]

typhon s3 can maybe kill it

[celest kayak]

It can, but spiders are faster than she can manage to get them

[celest kayak]

Raised skills by two, can't raise mod, don't have LMD and T5 salt

[teal moon]

my s3m3 modless Ela can barely clear it, I doubt yours can

have you already used Amiya in other stages?

[celest kayak]

Yes

I moved her to sp7

[teal moon]

have you tried Fedex there?

[celest kayak]

Where?

[teal moon]

sp06

[celest kayak]

Nope

Is he enough?

[teal moon]

I'm trying, but I doubt

[teal moon]

modless he can't for sure

[celest kayak]

I'm still at 6-14, so he's off the table

[willow sun]

maybe you could reposition her

there’s more ranged tiles up top

[celest kayak]

She won't reach the bottom lane then

[willow sun]

use one explosion on the spiders

then charge up the remaining 7 for bob

maybe

[celest kayak]

I've been using S2, so i might try

[teal moon]

don't have marcille so I can't test it

[celest kayak]

Ah, screw 5th medal, I'll just get the trim

[teal moon]

have you already cleared all the other stages?

btw, Ling s2 seems to clear it pretty easily

[celest kayak]

I used S3 and it was a cakewalk

[celest kayak]

Sp8 remains

[teal moon]

so you already cleared it?

[celest kayak]

Ye

I recalled ling from sp2

[teal moon]

is sp08 the last one you have to clear?

[celest kayak]

Ye

[teal moon]

just use Logos

[celest kayak]

Will this do? Or it's overkill?

[teal moon]

your logos doesn't have mod

wait a moment

[celest kayak]

I haven't gotten to 11-6

[teal moon]

you should be able, I'd try to bring gravel with Logos simply to bait the drone in case you can't kill it fast enough

Logos and Silverash clear it without mod

[celest kayak]

Done using Logos (almost)solo

Dealt with cars using skill, then put out exu and doro to speed up the process

[scarlet fulcrum]

Lv their skill to 7, very doable

[celest kayak]

Low on T3-4 mats

(any mats actually... Except books)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Im more impressed u could e2 a lot ops but none with decent skill lv

[willow sun]

probably only grinded mats to e2 lol

[elder flume]

Stage rewards give T4 T5 too much

[celest kayak]

Ye

[willow sun]

from now on just focus your sanity on grinding whatever mat the current event offers, even if you don’t think you need it right now
unless you actually don’t need it right now and another event with the same mat farm is coming soon

after enough time you’ll build up a stockpile of mats

i’m 7 months in now and i have a couple of random t3 mats sitting at 100+ while others (haven’t had an event farm for them yet) are at like 0-10 lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Skill lv more important anyway

[willow sun]

like take t3 gel for example, i farmed 100+ during babel and i still have 50 lying around

for newer players farming an event mat can be a one and done thing

[celest kayak]

Are these buffs enough for VEC-8?

[willow sun]

vec 8 only needs 1, 2, 4, 5

you almost need 4

drop 7 and 8

6 only needed if you’re using ulpianus or helidroppers

[celest kayak]

6 and 7 are used in eckogen's vid

[scarlet fulcrum]

U dont really need 7 and 8

sp can be nice for few carry

[willow sun]

well are you using his exact comp?

he probably does low end + shift stalling

but it requires fewer buffs to just throw bodies at rosmo and let logos carry your dps

[celest kayak]

He did a lot of stalling

[willow sun]

yeah every low end strat requires stalling

bodies strat wants sp02 for +2 barrier on deploy
shift strat wants sp07 for -3 weight

[elder flume]

Use Canta to get dp faster than Myrtle

10 sp is not needed for Wis to break VTE before shieldguards absorb

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea, they prob use 10 dp for that. Yea not needed

[willow sun]

oh right you can just break the VTE

i forgot lol

too used to low buff clears

[elder flume]

Ecko stalled saber until it expired

Quite a lot of bodies

[rich plover]

Need help with SP-05

[scarlet fulcrum]

Maybe 1 carry only

[rich plover]

Lineup

Jaye, Ascalon, Marcille and Santalla are stationed

[elder flume]

Tuya bursts through shield right

[scarlet fulcrum]

Depends on type of shield

[rich plover]

Actually yea, Narantuya can work

Not sure about SP02 tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

Im still loading ur pic mb

[rich plover]

It's ok

[willow sun]

wait rosmo rips the VTE out of the enemies when she retreats them?

[elder flume]

Nah just the exposed ones

Wis kills shield > VTE exposed > Ros enters > bye VTE

[elder flume]

Mountain S3

[scarlet fulcrum]

No mastery on naran? Or atleast skill lv7?

[rich plover]

S1 and S3 are on M1

I did try SP05 with Narantuya and it worked

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea, as long as u kill shield dude in time

[rich plover]

Not in the middle?

[scarlet fulcrum]

yea s3 works wonder, i just tried it. Very overkill on m3. More than enough on l7

[elder flume]

Not enough skill duration

[rich plover]

Ah fair

[elder flume]

A lot of strats dont even take middle lol

Its a bait

[wicked viper]

s2 work but need mastery afaik

[willow sun]

why doesn’t wis just break the VTE for buffs?

[spark sinew]

you usually have time to redeploy anyway

[willow sun]

or is it low buff

[elder flume]

It broke the 2 nearest yea

The other 2 not enough ammo

[willow sun]

but there’s the +1 sp/s buff

idk maybe i’m just spoiled by logos

[elder flume]

Tldr

[rich plover]

Got SP 1, 2, 4 and 5

[willow sun]

looks like the same thing i do with logos + bodies

[rich plover]

Other buffs needed or nah

[willow sun]

except bodies need to be a bunch of frd/summoners and newbies might not have enough

[willow sun]

not really

[willow sun]

this is all you need for vec8

[willow sun]

which buffs does he use? i’m curious

[willow sun]

oh wow that’s a lot

i mean i respect the low end but like how are they gonna clear the sp stages lol

?

1 wut

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats prob 1 carry

[willow sun]

now i’m even more confused

[elder flume]

Well-

Kirn prob meant Wis core VEC8

I like how it uses 3 kernel banner ops

[brave void]

I literally have no idea how to beat it my biggest problems are the enemies that come from the bottom left, can I even beat it with this team???

[scarlet fulcrum]

Very chad clear

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah torch will carry you, it will remove buff of enemies when in range (as long as u keep torch alive)

Dont forget to bait snowball dude later

[elder flume]

Make that 8 kernel

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ur ops thick enough tho

no need to borrow tbh, but its up to you. Can auto other anni anyway

[brave void]

I fail here bc my placement sucks aßß

[elder flume]

Could you use Mapark website to show where all ur ops are placed on

[maiden hound]

jerman

[elder flume]

I put Wis to guard those tiles so

[scarlet fulcrum]

That's actually fine

[somber falcon]

you can just put wis on leftmost furnace facing right

only turn it on after her skill is ready

[rich plover]

Finally got the Vanilla skin, that's all I want

How many stages is required for level 55 at least?

[somber falcon]

pretty sure one clear = one lvl

wait that's for earlier stages nvm

later stages gives more

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can spam prev stages yes

[somber falcon]

iirc one lvl is 40 points? you can check the points a stage gives and calc how many clears you need

[brave void]

I think thats how I Place them (im getting cooked)

[willow sun]

yeah i’m just saying like it’s a nice low end clear but from the looks of this screenshot you also need silverash, ceobe, qiubai, eyja, etc. ykwim?

[rich plover]

I'm a dumbass, I didn't realize you can replay to get 50-70 per mission

[scarlet fulcrum]

As long as u willing for it

[rich plover]

Tho you can't auto replay it so....

[somber falcon]

if you're really commited, might as well

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats it, just have enough will

[somber falcon]

it's gone in 2 hrs anyways

[teal moon]

it's not that hard to replay the stage, doesn't Wisadel solo it?

[rich plover]

True

[teal moon]

deploy Wisadel, activate s3, enjoy

[rich plover]

Which stage?

[scarlet fulcrum]

The fastest one

[celest kayak]

I gave up on vec-8. These lightsaber dudes keep getting through and pushing them doesn't help

[somber falcon]

nymph their ass away

[spark sinew]

use a puller as well

that said even solo pusher should be enough

inb4 you didn't do the garrison with -weight

[somber falcon]

looks like he does #strategy message

[elder flume]

Non Weedy S2 wont get far with push stall

Unless a second factor is added

E1 Thorns against the world

[full terrace]

Prioritize getting all the buffs (SP01~SP08), once you do, copy these:
VEC-03 #strategy message
VEC-04 #strategy message
VEC-05 #strategy message
VEC-07 #strategy message
VEC-08 #strategy message

[somber falcon]

try this

[full terrace]

VEC-03 #strategy message
VEC-04 #strategy message
VEC-05 #strategy message
VEC-07 #strategy message
VEC-08 #strategy message

[willow sun]

what buffs did this use? if any

out of curiosity

[full terrace]

1-2-3-4 before the 2nd half was open

[willow sun]

ah, neat

[brave void]

Im trying it rn I still got one unit I can place

[willow sun]

i think ulpianus solo needs 1 2 4 5

4 buff needs pot2+ or e2 90, 5 buff just needs pot1 e2 60 no mod

didn’t think to use lego though

[celest kayak]

Nah. I'm good

I'll get it later, if game survives long enough to rerun it

[full terrace]

Events like this aint gonna rerun

[celest kayak]

Welp

[elder flume]

1 hour 14

[celest kayak]

Shoaganai...

[full terrace]

He said he is good so 😂

[willow sun]

if you’re patient you can beat it in like 10 minutes

logos borrow + 12 fodder units

you can beat it with e0 1 units and logos borrow

[celest kayak]

Can I borrow him if he's garrisoned?

[glass monolith]

Pretty sure garrison lock out borrow too

[willow sun]

no, where is he garrisoned?

if it’s sp08 just take him out

[celest kayak]

No it's sp4

[elder flume]

Hm might need to finish my Conviction

[full terrace]

Your Conviction Pot 1 bro

[elder flume]

Imagine doing infinite pot cheese

[full terrace]

🤣

I was just surprised, you were day 1 player

Didnt mean anything by it

[willow sun]

do you have no other way to do sp04?

[elder flume]

I just didnt do the exploit

[celest kayak]

Nope, I just took him out of sp4 to clear sp8

[elder flume]

Forgot why

[spark sinew]

what exploit

[elder flume]

Pot 6 Conviction

[rich plover]

Need help with SP07 garrison

[spark sinew]

i figured as much, I'm asking what is that exactly

but you're probably joking

[somber falcon]

Who do you have available

[rich plover]

So far, Jaye, Mountain, Ascalon, Marcille, Santalla, Ines and Narantuya are stationed

[elder flume]

During the first day of April Fools event the way to get Conviction was by going to the website and putting the code in

But what if you went back to the website and put another code in

[rich plover]

Lineup

[elder flume]

You now have infinite Conviction in your mail

[rich plover]

But it's ok because she's not particularly good

[elder flume]

Patched day 2 of April Fools event iirc

[spark sinew]

wow

but it doesn't have pots anyway

gold cert abuse only?

[elder flume]

I dont remember the outcome

But everything should be refunded

There were other events that lead to negative currency due to scams like this

[somber falcon]

Try amiya s3 ig
With a defender + healer

[rich plover]

SP07 tho

You only have two ops

[somber falcon]

Ah

[elder flume]

I assume no Medicmiya

[rich plover]

Not yet there

[elder flume]

Castermiya could but need mod sadly

[rich plover]

Damn it xddddd

[somber falcon]

Have you done all the main stages?

[rich plover]

I'm now at stage 7

Probably just gonna copy the low end video

But with a Myrtle

[willow sun]

you could probably do the clear with wis but i’m too tired to try

[somber falcon]

Where's ascalon used? Sp4?

[rich plover]

Yea

[somber falcon]

[full terrace]

The person himself has already given up, there is no need to try to help when the person himself doesnt want to be helped. Help this Dr. Limbus instead if you really want to, he is asking for help.

[desert prairie]

Archetto and cuora is still open yes?

[rich plover]

Yea

Tho Archetto is E1

[desert prairie]

Nah that wont work
Amiya s3 wont cycle fast enough
S2 need mod to work

[elder flume]

wait wrong

wtf brainfart

[full terrace]

@rich plover are you only missing SP07?

[rich plover]

I'll probably just use this then

[desert prairie]

I can only think of lappy cuora coping

Wait SP7 not SP7SP?

[full terrace]

I mean if you are using my method you need SP07 as well coz I abuse the -3 Weight

[rich plover]

Ah right yea

[willow sun]

wis + bodies works fine

wis + bodies also works for sp07

[elder flume]

VEC 7 with SP 1 Yato carry
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nkxDeqEDJ?spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.sections

[desert prairie]

Who takes SP03SP?

[full terrace]

@rich plover try his method there #strategy message

Yato carry, dont need buff

[rich plover]

Ok got it

[elder flume]

its quite lengthy

but basically

Podenco S2 to silence spiders before killing

[elder flume]

make spiders group together so Yato will do more damage to flying thing

[willow sun]

which buffs do you have @rich plover

[elder flume]

can bring a lot more ops to silence or group them better

[rich plover]

1, 2, 4, 5

[willow sun]

ok you can do this then

i forgot to remove 6 but you don’t need it

[full terrace]

28 mins lol

[rich plover]

Stalling huh

[full terrace]

Did you finish all SP stages once for the medal?

Iirc you need to finish all SP stages once

[rich plover]

All except the last one

[full terrace]

SP08?

[rich plover]

Yes

I could try to RNG it....but....the time

[full terrace]

Didnt I record you a Naran clear? Was it you?

[rich plover]

Yea

[full terrace]

Welp RIP

Shouldnt have waited til last min 😂

[rich plover]

It's ok, I got Vanilla skin

[full terrace]

Did you get all 65 level rewards

[rich plover]

Wait, the last medal is just clear level 8 in Kernel Breakthrough

[rich plover]

Not yet

[full terrace]

Needa clear every stage yes

[full terrace]

Go prioritize this

Repeat stage 5 or 6

Repeating the stage does give you points for the rewards

[rich plover]

Yea I know, I'll be quick

[full terrace]

Best of luck

[rich plover]

Thanks

[willow sun]

i had to butcher the video length to send it but here you go @rich plover

if you need it

fucking ios doesn’t change the size of a video if you change the length apparently, pissing me off

i had to screen record the screen recording

[rich plover]

Does the silence have to be Jaye

[willow sun]

no

any fast redeploy

[elder flume]

kekw theres music

[willow sun]

jaye, gravel, mr nothing, cantabile, chilchuck

anybody

[wicked minnow]

could that mean that the rest of the video is still stored in the mp4 file

[willow sun]

oh

whoops lol

[willow sun]

yes

because that way you can “undo your edits”

MF I MADE THEM FOR A REASON

[wicked minnow]

oh that's ass

lmao

[willow sun]

like i’ll have a 50 minute video recorded of attempts

and i’ll cut it to 2 minutes

nop 5 gifabytes

???

[wicked minnow]

im happy with my samsung photos editor

[elder flume]

ios debuff fr

[willow sun]

it’s so ass

[rich plover]

So just stall the sword guy and the spiders

[full terrace]

Just record him the other half, starting from where you cut it off

I once cut a video into 4 parts before, you can just do so

[elder flume]

and kill VTE if you can before weeb takes it

[full terrace]

17 mins

Until maintenance

[rich plover]

Need to do VEC-8 now

Got any tips?

[elder flume]

@full terrace your clear is prob best

too little time to try another

[full terrace]

My clear requires all the buffs, which he doesnt have. Unless he has the dps for the right side, then he doesnt need the Weight buff from SP07

SP08 Camouflage is still needed in order to keep Rosmontis from retrieving the 4x VTE

When everyone is under Camouflage = Rosmontis doesnt have a valid target and she doesnt throw her VTE

If you didnt do so and she has a valid target = she throws the VTE and then retrieve the 4x VTE in the middle

[rich plover]

It's fine if I don't get all the medals

But at this point....

[full terrace]

My strat revolves around abusing this mechanic, by letting her throw the VTE at a very specific timeframe for Logos to dps in 1 cycle

Then because she didnt retrieve anything, I got a free SP Recovery on Logos

And dps for one more cycle before retreating

[elder flume]

eh its 9 more mins

not really time for anymore runs

[full terrace]

Right side is just laneholding with the -3 Weight so it's replaceable with any strong laneholder

Yeah RIP to him 😂

8 mins actually

[rich plover]

it's ok, I got the skin, and that's what really matters

[willow sun]

after that video ends you just use wisadel skill and then you can’t lose

she automatically wins for you

basically

but yeah i’ll do that next time

[rich plover]

Dw, I got it already

[willow sun]

i just recorded my 10 op wis clear with 1 2 4 5 but oh well it’s too late

[willow sun]

did you beat vec8?

[rich plover]

Nope

[willow sun]

aw

rip

no medal

[full terrace]

Honestly I doubt that. There is a second Chalice coming together with a bunch of spiders from the left. I tried that Wis method before and her bullets just got spent before that happens.

[rich plover]

Maybe next time idk

[full terrace]

So if you know how to do it with Wis, it's better if you send the other half of the video

[rich plover]

I just have more meatshields lol

Stalling

4 tanks, 2 redeploys, one Deepcolor

[willow sun]

because of how i blocked the weeb, the pillar spawns with wis inside of it

[full terrace]

Yato I understand because she is FRD on 15ish secs cooldown, but Wis recharge is 50 secs, thats very different

[willow sun]

so she breaks pillar and gains buffs

[rich plover]

Yea, just stall

[full terrace]

Yah just post the other half of the video

If you really cleared it

[willow sun]

alr one sec lemme go recover it

wait wrong one

[willow sun]

i wouldn’t lie like that

[full terrace]

Okay the VTE makes sense

I didnt say you lie, I just said she didnt recharge in time

[willow sun]

yeah without vte aspd buff you just need to stall a bit longer

and then end her skill early without killing weeb

[full terrace]

I did try that Wis method buffless before

[willow sun]

then second skill will kill weeb + chalice

[full terrace]

She didnt charge in time

[willow sun]

hm, mine did when i did it buffless

[elder flume]

there goes progress

wonder if i will be locked out if i dont remember my Yostar acc

[willow sun]

and no i didn’t use ela mines to stall

you just have to end wis skill early on second activation

she barely has time to activate again while spiders are on their way down and she wipes the chalice that way

[full terrace]

Bro thats Ela over there she got firepower to shoot spiders

[willow sun]

it was a different clear but wis was solo handling left side

[full terrace]

If you are relying on Wis dps alone you need her to spend all bullets

[willow sun]

i don’t have recording but you’ll just have to take my word for it

[full terrace]

I dont need to, I tried that. If you are going to use Wis as solo carry, she has to spend all bullets, and when she does that, she doesnt have time to recharge for the last wave because 50 secs

[smoky halo]

isnt the event over

[willow sun]

yeah

[full terrace]

Unless you bring someone with you then deactivate early

[smoky halo]

peak skin in 6 hours

cant wait

[willow sun]

you don’t spend all bullets though

[smoky halo]

:ya:

[willow sun]

you end two bullets early as soon as chalice dies

[smoky halo]

vector brekthru was fun

[willow sun]

in my case i use ela to kill, sure, but with no chalice you can just spam bodies on weeb and wis splash will kill any leaking spiders

[smoky halo]

its like CC except i can run 4 stars without dying

‼️

[full terrace]

You do if she solo carries, there just isnt enough firepower from the other low rarity ops, but thats beside the point.

[willow sun]

ya i really enjoyed it

[willow sun]

you wait for next skill cycle to kill second weeb tho

just stall with bodies

in this case i let ela finish weeb off but you don’t have to

point in case is wis has time to get her skill back in time for second chalice while still killing first chalice

it’s tight timing but possible

[celest bluff]

7 mins after server maintenance

[willow sun]

and second weeb also won’t have VTE

weeb can still be killed by wis off skill

it’s not like they’re super tanky, just fat hp pool

[full terrace]

It's not about the weeb Jesus Christ. Look at your own 2nd half of the video there. You charged it up just in time because there is a VTE helping her SP regeneration. Now look at your 1st half where you had to spend all of her freaking bullets.

[tough glen]

I like this new Vina, and i want to pull, but 80% of the 6 stars i have are all guards....blaze thorns qiubai and mountain...the last is logos

would she still be useful? I think im particularly lacking for ranged splash damage

or just...aoe in general

[spark sinew]

having a ton of guards are fine
whether or not she would be useful is another matter

[full terrace]

You dont need to convince me, I tried that Wis solo carry before, she didnt charge up in time because 50s. Yato can because she is 15s secs

[spark sinew]

how many pulls do you have

[tough glen]

about 25

lol

does pity carry over banners here

im new

[spark sinew]

it does but with caveats

[willow sun]

she doesn’t charge up just in time though? the right side spiders don’t need her skill, i only activate her skill when left side spiders start moving

[tough glen]

ok i know i havent gotten a 6 star in the last 30 rolls

[willow sun]

and they move down, go up, then come back down again, you have all that extra time to activate her skill

[tough glen]

so i should be hitting that 50 mark this time for rate up

[spark sinew]

like there are limited banners, they don't have carryover

[willow sun]

i can go count if you want

[tough glen]

are those collab banners

[spark sinew]

collab banners don't have carryover either

[full terrace]

I feel like I'm talking to a wall, nevermind then

You do you

[tough glen]

what was the most recent limited banner

i've been doing 10 pulls on any new banner if im able, just to get units

cause of that guaranteed 5 star, (not kernel though)

[willow sun]

here @full terrace

chalice dies 46 dp

second skill activation 97 dp

[spark sinew]

(would appreciate you not pinging on reply)
next limited banner is Lappalter, our most recent limited was....

[willow sun]

that’s 51 seconds

i literally did the clear, i know there’s time

i seriously don’t understand why you insist there isn’t

[spark sinew]

well it was like 3 months ago

[tough glen]

i have the pings turned off, it just lets me track who im responding to

[spark sinew]

so you likely weren't around for it

uhhh, no you don't

[tough glen]

no no for me lol

i don't get the lightup and the red 1 notification thing

[willow sun]

i think they mean they just have pings off in general

yeah

but the highlight just lets them know someone responded

[tough glen]

yeah

[willow sun]

that’s why i like having it on

[spark sinew]

they still show up in inbox don't they

[willow sun]

nope

also inbox is kinda useless anyway

[spark sinew]

because people keep ping replying yes

[tough glen]

all good, will keep in mind

[willow sun]

it’ll have a section for unread pings

if you’re actively chatting the ping reply will be read

so it won’t show up in inbox when you go to unread pings

[celest bluff]

My win won't be registered right?

[willow sun]

idk if that makes sense

[spark sinew]

it does

[willow sun]

can you ping reply me rq hauck

[spark sinew]

if you like her, you can pull (she does have overlap with your units yeah)
being true damage dealer she's also fairly versatile but like... it doesn't really matter

"meta" wise i would rather just dump pulls on lappalter if anything

also fomo limited and all that

long term

[elder flume]

even if you won you cant take the reward

[tidal sedge]

Do they have Degen?

[willow sun]

can someone ping reply me

[tidal sedge]

No

[spark sinew]

it's against my code of conduct to ping reply to people who are decent!

[celest bluff]

[willow sun]

oh yeah it shows up in inbox and has red dot in server

but doesn’t make noise

[celest bluff]

Pull for vina if you want to hear the fictional accent called "British people"

[willow sun]

if i’m being honest i usually just ping reply so in case they’re not actively here they’ll see it at some point later down the line, so i might forget

anyways i digress

[tough glen]

yeah ill go for lappalter

i do like base 5 star lappland

my upgrade from midnight lol

[willow sun]

another lappland fan is born

[full terrace]

You freakin spend your last bullet on 55 DP. You a need full 105 DP before she is charged up, that ~10 secs diff is when you got swarmed by the spiders coz the Chalice is protecting them.

[willow sun]

arf i really don’t want to argue about this man, if the event was still up id just go back and re-record it without ela

[tough glen]

if i have 25 pulls now, and im at 6-6 in story, is it likely i can get enough for 60 ish pulls....or how many pulls do you folks plan for to guarantee a char

for lappalter

[full terrace]

You just have to take my word for it, thats my point

[willow sun]

i’ll just say my last thing: this is why i was arguing weeb is the issue i thought you were mentioning, wisadel still has 2-3 bullets left AFTER the first chalice dies, she can either

1. end skill early
2. spend ammo and kill weeb
   if she ends skill early she has plenty of time for the third skill activation to kill the second chalice with spider splash damage, if she kills weeb then you need a bit of stall for the spiders, and again they take a decent amount of time to walk all the way down, head to the middle, walk up, and then walk back down again

[full terrace]

Wis timing alone doesnt allow her to solo carry buffless. Ofcourse there is the throwing bodies strat by stalling the sword dude saving 2 bullets for 3 secs, but that involves using buffs, and the bodies need to be strong enough for her to kill with normal attacks

[full terrace]

We are talking about buffless here

End what skill

[willow sun]

wis s3 atk interval is around 5 seconds though, saving 3 bullets saves a lot more time than 3 seconds

[willow sun]

yeah i know

[willow sun]

wis s3

after chalice dies and weeb is alive

it saves so much time

in my buffed video it looks like less time is spend because she has +80 aspd

a buff that only starts taking place after she kills chalice

which is specifically the last 3 ammo she spends on weeb, skippable ammo

[full terrace]

Lmao if you are so good why arent you uploading Wis solo to arkrec

I dont see any Wis solo record there

[willow sun]

because you need bodies?

[full terrace]

Buffless her timing just doesnt allow her to

[willow sun]

that’s what i’ve been saying this whole time

[full terrace]

And thats exactly my point

[willow sun]

??

then why is wis solo even worth mentioning

[full terrace]

Jesus Christ I'm done

[willow sun]

it isn’t meant to be a solo

[full terrace]

It's like talking to a wall

This is so dumb

[willow sun]

arf dude don’t start insulting me when i can’t even clearly tell what you’re confused about

[full terrace]

You are the one confused dude, I told you her timing doesnt add up for buffless

[willow sun]

in what parts

i never said she could solo carry as the only unit in the team

[full terrace]

🤦

[willow sun]

if i did say solo that meant she’s the sole dps, which is just semantics issue

[willow sun]

the closest thing i said was that wisadel can handle the left side (which includes chalice) on her own

she needs help with weebs ofc

with some rng she can also handle right side but it’s not consistent

[civic bear]

Solo carry isn't expected to be solo solo tho

[willow sun]

if i could understand why you don’t believe the clear i would explain but i just feel bad now

[civic bear]

Generally just means it carry bunch of e1s

[willow sun]

oh

i got aired so i deleted it

but yeah arf i’m sorry if i frustrated you man, im going to sleep now

[lapis hornet]

np

[smoky halo]

damn argument

and i missed it

😔

[wicked minnow]

yeah it's kinda fucked up

semantics arguement

[willow sun]

i didn’t even wanna argue bruh

and yeah i gave up on sleeping, class is in 1 hr anyways

[wicked minnow]

[full terrace]

Solo carry means she is solo dps with the help of bodies etc. I understand his point of deactivating early to push her cooldown to the limit #strategy message, but that involves using bodies strong enough to delay til Wis can kill the sword guy on auto, which is not easy to do buffless even by bringing a lot of bodies, thats why I said she has to spend all bullets coz low rarity ops dont have the firepower for it (his 2nd point is valid tho, using couple of bodies to stall spiders buying ~10 secs for Wis to recharge thats why I did not argue on that). But all of this is beside the point, the argument isnt about that, it's about whether Wis timing would allow her to charge her skill up in time or not, whether her timing alone would allow her to solo carry, I said she could not #strategy message, and he said she could #strategy message so I'd like to see how she could because I dont see any record in arkrec showing that her timing allowing this, thats the reason I brought up arkrec, not because she soloes.

[civic bear]

[full terrace]

I'm sorry for losing my cool as well. You got me really frustrated.

[willow sun]

its fine, if i dont mind me asking though what issue do you see with ending her second skill activation 3 bullets early to have time to activate it a third time for chalice?

you said you don’t think wis will have the timing to allow her to have her skill up on time, i assume you mean the third activation at the end of the stage?

[civic bear]

sounds like something that

can be fixed with

[willow sun]

i think you can spare to end her skill one bullet early instead of three and still make it in time to activate for spiders while they’re within chalice’s range

[civic bear]

lutonada

[willow sun]

but you could also stall those 5 seconds with a cc op like podenco or ethan

[civic bear]

lutonada pulling all the spiders and stall the sword guy ez clap with spam

[willow sun]

that would allow you to let wis fire her full salvo and kill second weeb, removing the need for bodies

[willow sun]

does it work for perma stall during skill duration?

that actually would solve the problem

[civic bear]

u need something to stall the sword guy

lutonada doesnt pull it

but it does stall spiders

[willow sun]

what i’m saying is if lutonada can stall spiders

[civic bear]

so u dont need to worry

[willow sun]

then wis can just not end her skill early

and that would let her kill second weeb

[civic bear]

it does yes

thats what 4* do buffless p sure

[willow sun]

oh yeah then that would work, i didn’t think of that tbh

if i redid the clear it’d probably be wis + ethan + lutonada + bodies

[scarlet fulcrum]

wao this guy still on it lmao

[willow sun]

because no sp02 they don’t get 2 shield on deploy so you’d rely on ethan + wis CC slow/stun/bind cc instead

[civic bear]

we just talkin man

[willow sun]

that’d make waiting the 50s for second skill considerably easier

[civic bear]

time to start the tw journey

🫡

[willow sun]

are you making a tw account rn?

[civic bear]

no

im saying u

[willow sun]

oh

[civic bear]

[willow sun]

lmao what’s funny is

it wouldn’t be much different from my current acc

3 months vs 7 months

[scarlet fulcrum]

🤣

[willow sun]

but yeah i will admit it slipped my mind that we were talking about no buff so when i absentmindedly said to just throw bodies i forgot they won’t have the 2 shield

so you’d have to rely more heavily on CC like ethan and lutonada

it’d take more effort and be less low end but wis should be able to cycle without needing to spam a billion bodies that way

the downsides of strategizing at 5 am

[wicked minnow]

surely you meant wild mane here

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tW1KWDev_4

[willow sun]

wtfart wild mane

[wicked minnow]

wildmane s2 better for stalling since it is predictable surely

[willow sun]

lutonada aoe tho

is this 5* shilling smh!

[wicked minnow]

50 second charge time vs 35 second charge time. picking your nose off-skill vs healing and buffer off-skill. me like mon3tr more but lowkey though mon3tr s2 with that aspd buff 🤤

[wicked minnow]

aoe overrated 🥱
-# didnt mean to ping

[willow sun]

i don’t mind pings lol don’t worry

i personally encourage them since i don’t want to miss anybody’s message

so true though, as soon as numbers dropped i thought “damn s2 is busted, i think i might go s2 > s3”

[elder flume]

smh no Mint mention

[weak gazelle]

it is, mon3tr angle is s2 anyway🚬

[willow sun]

so if someone asked you who to mastery for mon3tr you’d say s2

[vernal lion]

bruh

[weak gazelle]

yes i would say that

[civic bear]

u go s2 and buff all ur units including vina ez

[wicked minnow]

for quite a few ops, her buff is more impactful than aaks but on an aoe which is kinda funny i think

[civic bear]

just have everything

why settle for 1

[willow sun]

LOL true just buff vina

[vernal lion]

[civic bear]

theres like 10 spiders

wildmane only stall like 2 atbest

also this is solo core

using 5* would kinda defeat the purpose

[willow sun]

ermm actually there’s 9 spiders

🤓

[weak gazelle]

uhmm
just think an eyjaberry but with +aspd

[wicked minnow]

im pretty sure wildmane can stall all 9 as long as she isnt immediately overwhelmed by all 9 at the same time but dont quote me on that

[weak gazelle]

what skill?
s2 i believe she can do that

[wicked minnow]

spiders are weight 0 and she's force 1. she should be able to send each one flying

ye s2

[full terrace]

This is the last time I'm replying to you on this topic okay? It's not about "I think" or "I dont think", her cycle just doesnt allow her to, and thats a fact. You keep talking about stalling, trying to make up for that 10 secs she needed to charge up, ofcourse with some methods you can create a 10 secs delay for her, but that isnt her own timing, and I keep telling you that from the beginning, read again #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message. With her own timing she just cant, if she could, someone would have posted her solo in arkrec.

[elder flume]

Mon looks really cute despite not going to put anything to my roster

[civic bear]

weight 0 force 1is 2.1 tile. she hits every 1 second. spiders move 1ms so it takes 4.2 seconds to go past 2.1 tiles. that means you can really only stall 4 spiders

cuz on 5th second you need to hit the #1 spider or #5 spider

so yea only lutonada works

[weak gazelle]

already count her range?

[civic bear]

arkrec dont have category for solo core

range doesnt matter

i mean it does

i guess

but like

[willow sun]

wait but the whole point of the clear was never meant to be a solo though? i specified that as well
it’s whatever, ill drop it

[civic bear]

20s is 20 push

so uh

[full terrace]

🤦

[smoky halo]

can weight go to negative?

[willow sun]

what like if you got ange inspiration and faced 0 weight slug?

[teal moon]

what's the the discussion about?

[full terrace]

Discussion ended, you came late

[pure orchid]

Okay new discussion, insert cursed shit here

[willow sun]

ya also about vector breakthrough so like its whatever, event already ended for us

[civic bear]

but evne then youd be hitting like
hit - spider
5 - 5
6 - 1
7 - 6
8 - 2
so on. but now each 2 cycle theyre moving 0.5 tiles. you have 2 tiles range so after 8 cycles it should reach her

so 4+8

12s

[willow sun]

i think wis would only need 5s of stall

so 12s would work if she could pull it off

[teal moon]

you all were still discussing about an event we'll never see again?

[civic bear]

its a thought experiment bro

we doing science here

[elder flume]

weight can go neg yea

[willow sun]

basically arf didn’t believe my hypothetical clear was possible but i think there was just a miscommunication as to what we thought the clear was meant to achieve

[elder flume]

not that theres enemies that can hit -3

[weak gazelle]

rain has spoken

[smoky halo]

enemies can hit -3 in IS

[teal moon]

[smoky halo]

ange mod alpha is -2 weight

so just need another -weight relic

broken

[willow sun]

is5 relic is -2

they can hit -4 trust

[elder flume]

youre still capped by total force 4 iirc

tho that may be first year calcs

havent gone through current calc

[civic bear]

final force u mean

like end result

[elder flume]

ye

[smoky halo]

ye net force

[elder flume]

everyone has their own term for it

[willow sun]

why not just call it energy

[weak gazelle]

hmm
interesting to see current calc

[willow sun]

or momentum idk

[civic bear]

i mean you could but momentum has its value so

while its basicly the same thing. its different number

[elder flume]

i doubt current calc will prove anything different ngl

just that each shifter has their own hidden values

[willow sun]

yeah annoying that hg calls it force when i feel like weight, push/pull strength, and force (what you guys call net force) would’ve worked better

unless thats already how it is and i’m misunderstanding

[civic bear]

nah

they use force for strength

too

[elder flume]

[pure orchid]

Me when i try to shift comically miniscule objects (classical newtonian physics ceases to function)

[full terrace]

IS5 has Gravity Defying Machine (-2 Weight) and Inspirer March (+2 Shift Strength). Then if you choose Ending 2, there is a Shift tile in bottom side of Theresis map, so that alone is already 5 Shift Force?

Gladiia's Significantly has 2 Shift Strength, with Mod Y that becomes 3 Shift Strength. Weedy S3 has 3 by M3 (Greatly), combine with Ange, how much do we have in the end there.

[elder flume]

youre still capped

if there were new calcs PRTS wouldve included it

[full terrace]

Hmm

If Enemy has 5 Weight, and you cap at 4, to reach the cap, we still need 9 Shift Force no?

[elder flume]

if weight 5 then you need 8 force

total force is the result number

[willow sun]

i thought you said it was capped at 4?

[full terrace]

4 as in the final result

[elder flume]

forgive my boomer brain for not remembering everything to the detail

[willow sun]

yeah i’m agreeing, i thought 5 weight would require 9 shift strength then

oh it was just misremember

[full terrace]

Yeh weight 5 you throw 4, target still isnt moving much 😏

[elder flume]

i havent calced shift since Mint tbh

i did do Enforcer but only to find out how his directional shift works

[full terrace]

Rain have you played IS3 Ending 4?

[elder flume]

i did

[full terrace]

I think that boss is made for you

Oh you did okay nvm

[elder flume]

kekw

[full terrace]

Next thing close to it would be Theresis shifting

Oh

How much Weight do TLK and Eik have? Could we maybe perpetual shift them? That would be funny

[elder flume]

5 n 7

[willow sun]

TLK has 5 but you gotta deal with him freezing your shifter constantly, eik has 7

idk if you can reach enough shift in is4 to move eik

is5 has a stronger weightless relic, shift tiles, and +2 shift inspirer

[full terrace]

7 is no go

5 maybe possible

[willow sun]

maybe when ange mod releases

[full terrace]

I think

[willow sun]

isn’t weedy cannon 4 force?

i forget

[elder flume]

ye

[full terrace]

-1 is enough to move slightly

[full terrace]

Weedy 3 iirc

Significantly is 2

Greatly is 3

[willow sun]

yea it should be yeah weedy is 3 and her cannon adds 1

[full terrace]

Ah yeh

[elder flume]

most high weight boss prefer teleport

[full terrace]

It would be funny if you could perpetually push TLK back

Qui Lon has 9 Weight

There goes my idea

Wait hold on

2 Inspirer 2 Relic 3 Weedy 2 Ange

You can with S3

[smoky halo]

you can with weedy s3

+ange

[full terrace]

I was thinking of Weedy S2 but that would be nice to watch too

If you could record it bahaha

[smoky halo]

wait for mod alpha ange then ‼️

[elder flume]

oh mod 3 is bad

guess shes forever mod 1

and she powercrept Ho for IS

atleast Ho is still good for normal content

[full terrace]

How is her alpha module bad

[elder flume]

too much added damage

only need mod 1 for -1

[full terrace]

But everyone gets -1 Weight just from her being present

[elder flume]

mod level 3

[full terrace]

[full terrace]

Seever is up

[tall sierra]

Wait... sanity cap increase to 180 now?

[elder flume]

Stainless Paradox is fun

huh theyre selling past Baggie skin

[tall sierra]

The enemy look like some harmless citizen

With stick

[narrow pendant]

Thats exactly who they are

Peasants

Murder them

[elder flume]

dont forget new chap 9 stages

[full terrace]

Thats it? No boss fight?

Ooo nice Stainless grangran

[scarlet mortar]

you scrolled past it

[narrow pendant]

First boss in how long that doesnt have a 2nd phase

In here that is, theres a 2nd phase in ex iirc

And the trim medal requirement is so wack

[scarlet mortar]

ik it must be hard to spot a boss that doesn't move but doesn't have global range

he might as well have been a device

[narrow pendant]

Have to admit the mini steam knights are cool

They can survive a whole degen s3

[scarlet mortar]

ok if they weren't at least that fat i would've completely lost hope in victoria

[full terrace]

Yah when I took a second look, I saw it. Thought that was an elite enemy it has no 2nd phase

[tall sierra]

The mini steam knight took 3 wisadel shot to die

[full terrace]

I didnt even deploy Wisadel

[narrow pendant]

I didnt bring wisadel

Degen skin too pretty

S3 looks so good🥹

[tall sierra]

Mage with 999 str and 0 int

[fallow echo]

Ray killed him on 2 ults while being outside his range, poor guy didnt attack once

[elder flume]

No hole

[limpid ore]

technically we have few boss that has no phase

[languid thistle]

any surprises on this map

[limpid ore]

eh, not really

[narrow pendant]

A massive dragon will tailwhip and kill all your ops

[languid thistle]

lewd

[limpid ore]

giant cock falling from the sky

🐔

[elder flume]

Thats a lot of holes

[limpid ore]

hole knight

[languid thistle]

why does saria get a charge counter but pinecone doesn't

[narrow pendant]

Cuz pinecones isnt automatic

[languid thistle]

ok this one seems way harder

[narrow pendant]

Cuz it is

Unironicaly one of the hardest annis

[languid thistle]

well I guess I can just bring a support

I just noticed clearing annis for the first time increases weekly orundum cap

[narrow pendant]

Only the perm+ rotating

But ye

[bright pebble]

can someone here help me with this?

[azure roost]

@bright pebble what enemies i having hard time

[elder flume]

Utilize safe spots

[azure roost]

outzone drone

[bright pebble]

the last two

[full terrace]

E2 Ambriel

[azure roost]

then plop walter on middle

then u sleep

last two?

[bright pebble]

walter?

[azure roost]

[azure roost]

wis

[languid thistle]

who's got invisibility detection

[bright pebble]

oh
i put her close to the blue box in the top with mountin

[elder flume]

Sash Scene Tsukinogi Ines Horn

[bright pebble]

the last drone and one big guy with a mustache

[azure roost]

just make wis have s3

[elder flume]

Why not Ambriel on top to kill first drone

Then Wis in middle to monopolize all lane

Not that it needs to be in order cuz she has camo

[narrow pendant]

Sash, ines, ely, scene, tsuki, sentinels with mods

[azure roost]

[full terrace]

GO-6 Wisadel Borrow

Borrow a Wisadel with Module. The one you borrowed doesnt have one

[bright pebble]

then that wouldnt let me get to the end of the stage in the first place cause wiz is my only crowd controller

[limpid ore]

borrow a better wisadel

[bright pebble]

is this actually a vidioe
or is it buged for me?

[bright pebble]

ok thnx

[limpid ore]

it's video

discord mobile kinda ass

i habe moduled wisadel

[bright pebble]

im on a laptop

[narrow pendant]

Often force closing discord and opening again helps

[limpid ore]

i feel like using discord browser

[bright pebble]

anyway thank you!

[limpid ore]

aye

[languid thistle]

fuk'n kill myself

ok I need to replace wisadel with someone who always hits air

any reccs

[limpid ore]

or manually turn off her S3 when there is no aerial enemy

[languid thistle]

they start coming and they don't stop coming and they dont stop coming

[full terrace]

What Shiyon said. My alt used Wisadel for that and it worked out fine

[languid thistle]

I'm so fucking tired of this stage

[wintry gulch]

narantuya with good rng, or just better wisadel placement

[little ravine]

what exactly is king alistair's shield you are supposed to break twice ?

[full terrace]

When he activates the tactical equipment

He gains the shield thingy, just outdps it

Break at least twice to trim btw

Ngl its more annoying to wait for him to activate that shield than to break it

I didnt get it on my first attempt either

[azure roost]

god i love vina s3

[jovial nest]

damn, they just added the 180 and also gave us free 50 San to go with it

[hasty pebble]

I cleared ex-9 with 4-5* stars operators: ||Totter with Warfarin are enough to kill the boss (though you need full masteries on them). Silence, Myrtle (-> Tequila) and Specter on topline. On botline Czerny after casting Warfarin's skill two times. After killing boss I activated armory and deployed more operators just to speed up clear. || I kinda feel like this is not intended strategy for the stage since I ignored boss mechanics. So I will try something different later.

[leaden sierra]

Should I put Jessica behind Walter? I have feeling Silence won't be healing anyone. At least not directly.

[full terrace]

What the hell

You cleared d15 IS5 and struggle with this anni?

[leaden sierra]

Nah, this is alt. And yes, the power of borrowing.

[full terrace]

I deployed Wis where your Kroos is at, and use all 3 of her Revenant Shadows to shield everyone from crossbow

Also deployed Lappland where your Fang is at to handle top drones

[fathom swift]

I've been using the blueprint beginning buff that lets u reroll a stage once for free with the collectable that increases emergency rooms spawns. And my mind is blowned by how good this combo is. Never have gotten so many collectables and maxed out operators before. Is there a way to improve this strategy?

[leaden sierra]

Ty!!

[full terrace]

Grab Shrivels as well

At F1

[willow sun]

if you want to take a risk you can open spec vanguard sniper instead of guard caster sniper

that way you get tin man f1

[fathom swift]

What is a shrivel? Is it a encounter collectable?

[full terrace]

Here #strategy message @fathom swift

[willow sun]

lingerer

or ya check arf’s message

did you mention robbing cannot in there? i dont see it

[fathom swift]

Thank u but I'm comfortable using the caster / sniper / defender combo 🥲

[willow sun]

yeah that’s fair lol, there are a few f1 stages that spec vanguard sniper can struggle with at d15 if there’s bad rng, there’s probably strats but idk them cause i play casually

[fathom swift]

So shrivel is a lingerer buff that gives 16 relics worth of buffs?

[willow sun]

do you know how thoughts work yet?

[fathom swift]

Not really, just trying to not go over the thought limit

[full terrace]

Basically at F1 you want to focus on Encounters. F2-F3-F4 are where you want to make good use your Talon (with Blueprint squad). At F5-F6 you'd want to focus on Encounters again

[fathom swift]

Ooh okay, what do u get from encounters at floor 5 / 6? I know that at floor 1 / 2 u can get talon

[full terrace]

#strategy message

[fathom swift]

Sometimes I get a relic that gives atk% buff for every thought I have. Idk if it's the max thoughts or the ones I currently have tho

[willow sun]

so thoughts are split into 3 categories, inspirers (pre-battle buffs), lingerers (used in certain encounters but mainly used to exchange for collectibles), and plans (reroll nodes, enter blizzard fragments, travel vertically, some encounters use them, etc.)

[fathom swift]

Oh so floor 5 / 6 is where I focus on getting more relics by doing encounters instead of emergy rooms

[willow sun]

you mainly want to stock up on lingerers but keep space for plans, the more plans you have the less value they have so you’ll have to plan out your path beforehand and determine their value, so you’ll know if you want to discard lingerers or plans to clear up thought space

there are some rare cases where you’ll want to keep inspirers over the other two but generally inspirers are thrown out first

[fathom swift]

I usually save up lingerers to intrepet them at that one stage for relics

[willow sun]

each thought has a certain weight, being lucid has no debuffs, burdened gives extra dp cost and loses 1 life point every step, and overbeared means you can’t move

inspirers you’ll mainly look for command exp ones early on, then the ingots ones and witchcraft

the two shift ones can also be useful but they’re pretty rare in my experience

[fathom swift]

Oh okay so using my inspirers is a good thing instead of discarding them for space

[willow sun]

for inspirers you want shrivel and sprout because they can keep duplicating and you can stack up a bunch of relics with them that way, just make sure if you’re going to max out on load you interpret enough of them on the last floor to not let any go to waste

[willow sun]

yeah you can use them, there are some cases where you won’t want to though

say you have the relic that gives you -6 dp cost if you don’t use a inspirer before the battle, in that case you might just want to throw away that +10% attack inspirer instead

or if you have the relic that gives you +1 shield every time you use an inspirer, in that case you ignore the other one and just spam inspirers for shield, it basically makes it impossible for you to lose

but yeah lingerers aren’t really buffs, there are some special ones like lead tag that have unique interactions but you’ll mainly just use them for relics, and shrivel and sprout does this best since unless you’re rolling revelations every time (the gold/very rare relics) it doesn’t matter what rarity of lingerers you’re interpreting

and shrivel and sprout can multiply very fast, if you get 4 on f1 and manage to keep all 32 on f4, you can get 8 relics on f4, 8 relics on f5, and then 16 relics on f6 if you do ending 3

[tidal sedge]

It's worth doing all the squads/requirements to unlock these right?

[willow sun]

so you get 32 relics for free

you will need good rng with a relic that gives you +1 toil per perfect clear though since that lets you carry a lot more load

[fathom swift]

So much information

[willow sun]

same with drafting tin man

[full terrace]

Some of them are, yeah

[willow sun]

tldr
inspirers buff you
lingerers give relics
plans let you spam emergency ops and make runs last a looong time
grab shrivel and sprout lingerers early on so you can get as many of them as possible later on, just make sure if you’re going over your load limit you interpret enough to not waste any the next floor
be careful of effects that can change the load of thoughts like epochs or ed3 relic
rest is just learning from experience

[leaden sierra]

Both Walter positions work, only reason I switched back was because i already figured out the skill cycle for the old one.
But that W spike defense line did some major work. Ty again.

[full terrace]

You are welcome. Glad you cleared it.

[leaden sierra]

Feels like the first time, hehe

[full terrace]

Also that CN account? You made that just for pulling Mon3tr?

[leaden sierra]

yup, Ines is also in shop so now I can buy her as well.

[full terrace]

Maybe I should do so as well 🤣

6 months is a long wait

[leaden sierra]

I mean I don't mind the way, the only problem is that I get ch 15 or whatever almost always spoiled.

I want to try them blind if possible without having other clears in the back of my mind.

[full terrace]

I cant read chinese, nothing will spoil me 😏

[leaden sierra]

My YouTube is filled with ch15 ending boss, i can't escape it.

[full terrace]

Oof

Mine as well honestly 😂

[leaden sierra]

Exactly, that's the norm now. If I can't change the world I might aswell.

[full terrace]

I saw ||PRTS|| hell naw I'm spoiled

[willow sun]

i’m actually so pissed about this because i asked someone if i should avoid spoilers or not (basically how big of a lore drop was ch15) and mf responded by saying no and then spoiling me on two major plot points without realizing

[leaden sierra]

EN curse and blessing we know ahead, but we also know ahead.

[willow sun]

knowing who to pull in the next 6 months
but
having to wait 6 months

[glad sequoia]

yo guys how do i make base preset rotations

[spark sinew]

they don't really work

i guess you can manually click on shift you want, but "one button to change rotation" just doesn't work

#r-i-i-c message

[elder flume]

seems to be first hit nullified

[full terrace]

Whachu up to? 😅

[elder flume]

shield blocks shift

2 comparisons

[mystic elbow]

I am struggling to beat the final boss in IS#5. The currently faced soul is at 7. Do you have any suggestions on how to beat a final boss? I want to jump to faced Soul 8.

[coral pier]

Which boss is that

[elder flume]

coffinman

[full terrace]

No way. Fremont is easiest IS boss

Arguably easier than Phantom

[elder flume]

how did you get to 7 if you didnt beat them 6 times before

[coral pier]

He bullies you if you dont have any dmg at all whatsoever though

[full terrace]

Shoot him with Wisadel

[mystic elbow]

I tried. But, it kills my ops so fast

[full terrace]

Bro, just let Wis's Revenant Shadow bait his charged attack

[mystic elbow]

I don't know. I have no issue with the previous level. But this one is different. The boss killed my ops quickly before it attacks.

[full terrace]

When he does that he loses all DR

[mystic elbow]

Let me try again then.

[full terrace]

Formation should look more or less like this #strategy message

Fremont is a Mystic Caster. He charges up, up to 3 balls

[elder flume]

tldr
boss have balls = bad = bait to remove balls
have some frd to save coffined friends
dont use too many ops on field in phase 1 since hes gona teleport them all in phase 2

[full terrace]

When the balls are up, he has massive DR

Bait his attack and he will release all the balls and loses all DR

[mystic elbow]

Make sense! Thank you everyone

How did you get a higher ASP? I tried. I couldn't figure it out.

This is really incredible to watch. AMAZING!

[coral pier]

260 money with the item that gives you aspd from money

Cracked

[mystic elbow]

I am almost there. Then I'll have not to spend ANY of the balance.

[full terrace]

You try to find one of these:

• Coin Operated Toy
• Chivalric Commandment
• Golden Chalice

For higher diff runs, you start with Blueprint Squad

And if you can do a triple borrow with Wisadel/Tin Man/Beanstalk

[mystic elbow]

That's what I noticed. I am learning this from YouTube.

[full terrace]

Grab Talon Encounter and Shrivels Encounter at F1, this is very important

Then use your Talon to refresh Nodes to Emergency at F2-F3-F4

For extra Relics

At F5 (and F6 if you do Ending 3), focus on Encounters for a higher chance of King Relics Set and the Duck-Speed Highway

Oh and dont forget to always rob Cannot

[leaden sierra]

with doodle spam you can also reach high attack speed by aiming for +70 attack speed on deployment relic. Add the inital sp relic and you have a team of fast redeploy bursts.

Don't mind the blur.

[full terrace]

If you play Ending 1 or 2, rob him at F5. If Ending 3, rob him at F6.

[coral pier]

I dont think ive seen duck encounter

Or robbed cannot

[mystic elbow]

I have seen several time, but I often skipped

But I couldn't see any robbed cannot. I'll try to get that

[full terrace]

Dont skip. Normal Duck Speed Highway gives 3 Relics (Duck and 2 of his friends)

And Emergency Duck gives 4 (Duck and all 3 of his friends)

Thats not counting the extra floating treasure chests

There is around 100 Ingots to be gotten there