r-i-i-c

[inner ocean]

welcome to why most of us don't do it

it's really only for those that have nothing else to do

[stuck crow]

yeah so put someone from first and second shift into third one

[round dock]

well, I don't have much to do?

[stuck crow]

does it not work?

[round dock]

but I guess I understand

[stuck crow]

it should be able to cycle through 1-2-3 then

[pale yoke]

Feel like I have to spend double the time doing rotations now

[rose knoll]

My presets:

Put ling into the 3rd replacing flametail, now it only goes between 2nd and 3rd lol

Oh amiya should be in 1st one instead of eunec

[eternal plover]

now that I can make presets I really have no reason not to switch from 243 to 252 considering the fact I own every op (minus the five star from the ascalon (my wife) banner) is there any one best set of combos to rotate between?

[stuck crow]

yep, just checked, got the same issue

[round dock]

I guess making more LMD and EXP isn't good enough?

[stuck crow]

you can just go there and manually click the shift you need tho

i guess it's good enough for some

[eternal plover]

compared to being lazy it really wasn't but now with presets I don't have that excuse do I?

[uncut dome]

Same issue and similar issue for TP, it's not switching to the 3rd team

Instead of 2nd for CC

[round dock]

I guess?

I rotated sooner with 243

[eternal plover]

I rotate once in the morning routine and back again in the afternoon with a pause at lunch and dinner to switch dorms.

that has been my pattern for uh, basically since launch

[polar gull]

I login twice a day to rotate 252.

[pale yoke]

actually a 5d chess move on dev part, make base worse so people rotate less and spend more irl moni

[uncut dome]

Who else do you Fia aside from Purestream and Proviso?

[stuck crow]

just two of them, 3 man fia is not consistent for me

[pale yoke]

zyf

[stuck crow]

i'm open to fiaing someone else instead of purestream

it's like, quite an old rotation that also was revamped a bit, so she might not even be good to use fia on?

[polar gull]

I just do my TP setup.

[uncut dome]

If you can Fia 3 then it's Prov, Sham, Teq
If you only do 2 then it's Prov, Bryo

[round dock]

Reset, +5 and +5, so for me, little after work starts, lunch and go home time

[stuck crow]

bryo, hmm

isn't it the same prod as fiaing pure

[eternal plover]

yeah pretty much, morning, lunch, afternoon, I just take an extra 30 seconds in the evening to drop a handful of ops into the dorms too

[frozen cedar]

is the base calc sheet supposed to auto update? cuz its not for me

am i supposed to just copy everything over each update

[fluid pollen]

These presets are like so

[fluid pollen]

Need to recopy.

[uncut dome]

No, it's better you can clearly see you're forced to pair Purestream with a 30%

If you Fia Bryo you can free up Dory Silencer to go to Purestream Mizuki fac

[thin grotto]

alright so is there any actual way to turn off the Rest Ops/Rotate buttons on the Backlog bar? they're giving me dirty looks and I don't like it one bit (I accidentally tapped them)

I tried turning off "Fatigued Operator Statistics" in the main settings menu, but not only did that not remove it, it... didn't actually change anything that I can see

[eternal plover]

back to my orginal question, has anyone made sample presets to use? or do i need to do the calcs mysled

[stuck crow]

my order of operations is bad (i already e2 delphine) but morgan siege 40% are just better karlan comp, right

by 6%

[uncut dome]

Yea

[pale yoke]

anyone using the new vena?

[fluid pollen]

We defs have space.

no

[stuck crow]

just use vigil instead

[round dock]

Yeah, that's with 252 too

[inner ocean]

is this the 7.5 hr shifts?

or the more cursed strats that require dorm sleeping to be efficient?

[uncut dome]

No

It's just 2 shifts

But you need in between to place ops in dorm since 20 dorm space isn't enough for everyone shifting in and out

[inner ocean]

the only in betweens i tolerated was to get resources between the 12 hrs (doesn't need to be smackdab middle) just so Pure Weedy doesn't cap

and the other is AH transition

[jaunty notch]

if you're crunchy primes to orundumb you're better off just converting them directly to pulls

[pale yoke]

but the report flex

[jaunty notch]

at least for the visible ops, they stay the same at least when you put them in the exact order. You can't really test ramp up cuz no visual cue, but if you have a little faith in HG they'll make sure the ramp code stays the same for everyone.

[stoic spoke]

Top operator + survival came in recruitment

and I won

1/5

[arctic prism]

Lmao crunch prime for sanity
Convert sanity to drone
Drone tp
???
Profit

[fluid pollen]

Wow lucki.

[formal marlin]

is 252 with right 3/3/3 still better than 243?

[arctic prism]

Yes

[clever grove]

does anyone have a guide for which operator is the best for production?

[inner ocean]

go to pins

#4 on base guides

[leaden grove]

@rose knoll hey Peter sorry for the ping but regarding your last point on the YT community post, you should be able to swap between staggered presets. I was able to swap cc presets with only 1 op being different. Are you sure that isn’t because another op was in a non-form facility? It won’t allow you to empty a slot with the preset button, it’s greyed. Maybe I misunderstood but just wanted to maybe help us both understand🫡

[uncut dome]

I think the issue isn't exactly about staggerered, it just won't let you cycle through all 3

It just switches between 2 instead of 3

[jaunty notch]

now that i read through peter's post, felt weird how he can't do certain rotations

and it cycled through mine in order

OH WAIT WTF

it never cycled to my rotation 3 in CC

i had to manual

[uncut dome]

Yea that's the problem

[jaunty notch]

ok damn it skipped some of my formations

[uncut dome]

Also the same case for other facilities

[jaunty notch]

actually ass update

[uncut dome]

It's so weird that there's something actually wrong with it

[jaunty notch]

wdym

it'd be weird if there's nothing wrong

[rose knoll]

[jaunty notch]

wassup peter

thanks for the seed

[uncut dome]

I meant like if there was a real reason why it doesn't work like doesn't let you stagger

But it just doesn't work

[jaunty notch]

the base doc has been overloaded for more than 10 hours

[uncut dome]

...

[jaunty notch]

crazy

[rose knoll]

Lmao

We ddos'd google boys

[jaunty notch]

i have never seen this before

not even when proviso came out

and iirc proviso had same numbers too

[uncut dome]

[rose knoll]

I think that happens when over 99 people are viewing the non-preview version

I've seen it on the farming sheet before

[whole tapir]

…how the hell

[rose knoll]

On mobile it just says "sync error" or smth every once in a while

[jaunty notch]

i went to bed, then sb dm me this, i woke up for another few hours to help with base, sleep, came back and it's still like this

all thanks to me seeding the shit out of it on reddit bet

[arctic prism]

I was assuming the rotate button has some sort of priority system bc for me it seemed to prioritize the preset with the highest morale or smth like that

[jaunty notch]

oh yeah that too

but it skipped through my warmy set even tho she's full morale

[arctic prism]

Yeah idk that button is wack

Might as well not be there

[whole tapir]

true

[jaunty notch]

just go in and select your preset

[arctic prism]

Just like a bunch of other buttons that came along with this update

[surreal folio]

Wait can proviso make 5 gold trades no right

[jaunty notch]

yes

on 3 gold order

[whole tapir]

the rest button also just removes the dormitory workers

[arctic prism]

2 gold order -> 4 gold order
3 gold order -> 5 gold order

[sudden token]

I still can't believe this shit. They had the Dungeon Meshi crossover event a month ago, and the whole deal with them in the base is that Senshi needs to be in the dormitory. Now they release an update to base and Senshi constantly gets kicked out. Like, who thought this was a good idea? How could they possibly not anticipate that people would want some workers to stay staffed in the dorms, and now we have to wait three months for a QoL update that absolutely should have been part of the release version

Like this has completely shaken my faith in this company to make decisions that result in a good game

[whole tapir]

Either it’s buggy code or it’s a feature that will stay here for longer than we think.

[sudden token]

Three months

Sui update gives the ability to lock people in the dorms

[fossil quartz]

Doesn't global almost follow CN's code changes anyway?

[sudden token]

Yes

but what I'm saying is that they released it like this

How could they possibly think that people would be happy with this?

They literally did a colab a month ago that this spits in the face of

[fossil quartz]

Probably why they kept the "Beta" for the base name

[sudden token]

Like, what were they thinking?

[fossil quartz]

I guess they expect everyone to ignore the rest all button for now

[whole tapir]

Well we didn’t.

[arctic prism]

Lol it would have been fine if it was just that button but the Rest Ops button that they shove in your face if you have anyone dead follows the same logic

[sudden token]

And to top it all off, they removed the filter buttons so now things are 10x as hard to do it the old way!

They could have left those in and then we could ignore most of this

[arctic prism]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-haimao-gif-24486201

[stoic spoke]

It was clearly because Eunectes heard my cries

[sudden token]

I've been playing for four and a half years now and I'm actively considering quitting because I don't want to deal with this shit

I don't want to wait through three months of bullshit before we get something that feels okay

[jaunty notch]

you can take a peek at the qol tab for some solutions regarding that

[orchid bane]

For Tp, fac , if rot 2 is working then I can quick swap to rot 3 I think

[arctic prism]

For me rot1 quick swapped to 3 so yea

[uncut dome]

I think it goes straight to the team with full morale like the whole team with full morale

[arctic prism]

Yea that was my guess as well

[uncut dome]

It's not even which has higher

[stoic spoke]

cried about it before, now turned numb towards it after a day.

[uncut dome]

If they're not full morale it will have the issue

[stoic spoke]

Just ignore that notif

Enjoying the single click rotations tbf

Although it did fuck up my shamare ramp once.(Skill issue on my part)

[whole tapir]

speaking of rotations
I have no idea how good both of these presets are.

[orchid bane]

that just one of the prior right ?
cause my rot 3 morale is not full, but I can still swap back and forth

1 and 3

cause my rot 2 is working in other fac

[uncut dome]

Yes, I didn't say you can't swap back and forth

Test it on a team that staggers only on that fac

[frail flicker]

Why does this say 10 hours? Bit confused

[uncut dome]

If it's staggering with different facs then it should be fine

[orchid bane]

I guess I will only swap between 1 and 2 ?

[jaunty notch]

cap time

[sudden token]

10 hours until the factory's storage is full and production stops.

It only shows the time until morale hits 0 if that's less than the max production time

[frail flicker]

oh that's handy but also a bit unclear

[sudden token]

Very! I've complained about that in the surveys they have us fill out for years now

[frail flicker]

also damn why am i bothering to optimize my base

this setup caps way too fast

....

[leaden grove]

Put pinus in lvl 3 and bryo with gravel in lvl 2

[frail flicker]

I don't have bryo e2

[sudden token]

Trading posts display the actual time until the workers will exhaust because future orders are random and you don't know how long you have until they're capped out. But for factories you just don't get to know the morale of the workers unless it's pretty low

[frail flicker]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17-naGhena6ydVytzF1YjE1tT_1b3EvL7vN5xgA3s6-w/edit?usp=sharing idk if anyone has any suggestions for tweaking this to fix the capacity issue

[jaunty notch]

exactly, then it's the same

[frail flicker]

fuck I accidentally pressed the rest all button

OTL

[jaunty notch]

hehe get smacked

[regal snow]

rest all button is the biggest troll update for us

besides the rest of the preset shenanigans

[jaunty notch]

oh hey i saw you on hina stream just now

[regal snow]

hi

[jaunty notch]

was considering if I should let ppl know about the changes compilation for the base in chat but maybe i shouldn't

[regal snow]

they're taking steps in the right direction to improve qol, casuals will love this

but i'm starting to wonder if some of the devs play the game

[jaunty notch]

it's yes if they hire me

or peter

[regal snow]

oh yeah, no workshop and training room presets besides no dorm preset xdd

[frail flicker]

so to try to understand

quick rotate is bad (does this just... select the next preset for each facility) as it doesn't work if anyone isn't at 0 morale
auto-rest is bad for arena/stainless, base skill, fia reasons

[regal snow]

if preset 1 and 2 are the same it just skips to 3

does it actually prioritize highest morale over next preset

?

also I noticed my factories got renumbered after the update so I have to change my custom base json again lol

[frail flicker]

There's no way to reorder presets right?

[rose knoll]

At least the order makes sense now

[jaunty notch]

you get extra uh 45 san since it's 135 > 180

[regal snow]

oh right there's the dorm lock update but it's still not preset

[jaunty notch]

bin icon to delete presets

[obtuse wyvern]

gato working overtime

[jaunty notch]

i'm in shambles

[sudden token]

Made up my mind. I'm not dealing with this. I quit. Goodbye everyone. Thanks for the good times.

Make some good use of this when you're unlocking your modules
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16mc1TEgNfPfxo022Nhs7sqvFoTmwtzJdwI0IG5INeNE/edit?tab=t.0

[regal snow]

o7

[jaunty notch]

ripperino

[stuck crow]

they really like sv-4

nvm

[jaunty notch]

felix, it's just 3 sets looping back with exception of shamare rampers in TP. you can also keep some of the ops like amiya/ascalon to keep it simple as well.

[vital oriole]

do presets still depend on op order to not disrupt bonuses that build up over time?

[stuck crow]

terrible feature

[frail flicker]

Huh FYI I've had a script for this

https://github.com/grantwwu/ak_modules_by_stage

[regal snow]

[jaunty notch]

honestly i forgor to test it, but i'd just keep them in the same slot just in case. if you did test it, do lmk the results.

did you wake up yet

[uncut dome]

Yea but I realized it's so bad... cuz CC will never sync with FAC and TP unless you do some weird things and that they need to be out of morale to actually switch

[regal snow]

i mean you still could switch individual rooms

[jaunty notch]

just to let you know, my rots use way less presets than that, it's just i meme and put different outfits/ops in different slots but they have the same skill. Worst case there're like 4 presets when i sleep or sth.

[pale yoke]

i just remove the preset after painstakenly setting it up because how bad it is lol

[uncut dome]

Yea but that's not the goal, I was gonna try to make use of the Rotate all button even if it's not optimal at all

[pale yoke]

manual labor is the way to go

[inner ocean]

the only con of 3 presets is

i cannot setup the factories to house both 3 EXP and 3 Gold layotus

[fading juniper]

Ok I added uhhh

Highmore mizuki vanilla

[pale yoke]

did CN rage when they get this update? im guessing they did

[fading juniper]

What reason to rage

Neurodivergent breakdown from subtle change?

[frail flicker]

well there's now a "annoy yourself" button with "Rest All"

[fading juniper]

Lancet sweat issue?

[frail flicker]

for me it's mainly stainless fodder and also removing base skill operators

I don't use dead robot strat

[pale yoke]

subtle change

[inner ocean]

you'll get used to ignoring notifications

i don't get every clue given to me until i give something in return for them. So the clue stockpile is always present for me. Same for Lancet notification before (i turned that off)

heh...just ignore

[frail flicker]

I mean the clue thing is fine because pressing it doesn't do anything

[fading juniper]

Don't worry, In 2032 they'll add the option to disable notif for certain selected operators

[languid blaze]

what happen if i click "rest op" notify?

[fading juniper]

[frail flicker]

automatically puts operators with less than max morale into dorms from lowest to highest going top down I think

[frozen cedar]

how's this setup? (wild mane is totter)

[pale yoke]

rest op just throw your tired ops into dorm and dorm mom out the window

dont press it

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[fading juniper]

Wait there's a sheet maker??

[frozen cedar]

in pins, #5

[fading juniper]

I always thought people were just telling me to change up the current one

[pale yoke]

and if you have setup for like pozy durin 160%, mumu PP, or any ops that need to sync with sui team, out the window too

productivity out the window, unless you never cared about productivity in the first place then yea, subtle change

[fading juniper]

I checked it and I am lost lol

[pale yoke]

not surprisedd

[fading juniper]

How do I do this on mobile

[inner ocean]

i just do it on PC and then make it an image for mobile

[frozen cedar]

o forgor the chart i added some functions to the template

[outer oyster]

Base update is so good 😭, now i saved 69 second in rotating my base every day

[inner ocean]

it's nice that the template exists

but i really don't like it being image centric so i stuck with my text-based format

easier to tell which one is rotated and which one stays too

[inner ocean]

for a speedrun value, that's massive. Now imagine how much time you save since you have to do it twice a day.....now multiply that in how many days you do that per year

[pale yoke]

damn cho you typing us a thesis there?

[arctic prism]

if others have input feel free to add anything I might have overlooked

CC: flametail, viviana, mlynar, eunectes, amiya
TP1: shamare, tequila, bibeak
TP2: proviso, vigil
Gold1: bryophyta, gravel, haze
Gold2: weedy, purestream
XP1: wildmane, highmore, mizuki
XP2: fartooth, ashlock
XP3: feater, conviction
PP: greyy alt, lancet (dead), greyy
RR: ines, chen
HR: penance

CC: delphine, yato alt, noir alt, lava alt, kroos alt
TP1: morgan, siege, siege alt
TP2: proviso, TRC
Gold1: aroma, waaifu, marcille
Gold2: spot, warmy
XP1: vermeil, scene, ceobe
XP2: silence alt, dorothy
XP3: vigna, castle
PP: muelsyse, liskarm, goldenglow
RR: laios, astesia/red/etc
HR: eyja

[arctic prism]

lmao some guy was complaining that people were ignoring him here and giving him bad advice so i was like fck it i'll just make him a rotation

[lone grail]

damn

[jaunty notch]

damn i finally finished backreading

crazy update

[pale yoke]

ignorant is a bliss, the more you know the worse it is

[fading juniper]

Ah I forgot to mention I don't do lancet strat, it's not low maintenance enough for me 😭
I also don't have:
Laios (went broke, got everyone except him), aroma, (I literally have no idea how to get them) siege alt (skipping, as much as I like base I need some funds for lapp alter)

[inner ocean]

how does Laios even help?

[fading juniper]

I also don't have fartooth

Wish I knew

[arctic prism]

not much it's just extra 5%

so not important

[inner ocean]

there's a reason i don't use him

let me check

[fading juniper]

I thought I read that he doesn't add anything new to the table

[arctic prism]

he doesnt if you have better people available

but you're using vigil in tp and caper is going to be too high maintenance for you so

[inner ocean]

he has pretty good RR clue %

but it requires using Chilchuk for better value

which is a no-go since Chilchuk is TP

[uncut dome]

[inner ocean]

oh and Monster Meal = Dorm levels too

[arctic prism]

huh? thought he just req senshi in dorm

[inner ocean]

Senshi's an easy include

yeah sorry i was thinking the full picture of the entire Dunmeshi combo

[arctic prism]

oh right i forgot your dorm levels arent 5 so yea nvm laios is trash

[obtuse wyvern]

i can make my marcille go up to 32% win my 252 setup but that requires e2ig senshi.

[fading juniper]

Hey that's what your first part of the msg was for

[inner ocean]

to even have a decent dorm level is to be a 243

best a max MR can do is lvl 2

and I'm not even MR

also i was reviewing because...

i use Senshi + Marcille

for a measly +1%

[uncut dome]

This is why I rarely help with optimizing other people's rots without knowing what they have. It'll go into finding alternatives and more alternatives.

[inner ocean]

thought i could get something more

[fading juniper]

So I'll have to adjust this with what I'm missing

[fading juniper]

This is why I tried to mention who I'm missing to begin with, but I forgot new characters have dropped since I last pasted that message

[jaunty notch]

alright the new preset made AH shift 10 times faster

pretty good

[fading juniper]

How do you get aroma? Are they a five star?

[arctic prism]

can replace siege alt with hoederer, just swap RR presets and throw W somewhere thats not dorm
replace aroma with any 30% gold, smth like mayer works

[fading juniper]

God damn it I Also don't have hoeder

I'm a professional hoederer skipper

[arctic prism]

and this is why I was saying earlier since we dont know your account it's best if you just read through pin4 and come up with your own rotations

[fading juniper]

I usually pull the more meta operators since I'm a brokie

[arctic prism]

can replace him with exu then i guess

[jaunty notch]

so, about that

[arctic prism]

or if you have underflow and ulpianus can use underflow and throw ulp somewhere

[fading juniper]

Underflow? Is that the new flying thingy

[fading juniper]

Oh. I do have underflow

[outer oyster]

Truly, the only thing i wish they would improve is let us keep the op even if they are max moral in dormitory, so they dont auto remove the dorm worker

[fading juniper]

And ulpipi

[arctic prism]

?

[obtuse wyvern]

Crusher crushes Trades

[inner ocean]

I can only apply it to 2 out of the 3 factories. The other factory has more than 2 presets already. Still a huge shortcut

[inner ocean]

i can imagine how much spaghetti code they were rearranging. and the best they can come up with to help non-riic casual players is that brutal solution

strictly speaking, they are catering more to casual players who ignore base than to us. I already read multiple posts of casual af players finally paying attention to their base. Still, manual presetting is still huge

[obtuse wyvern]

yea huge

no more scrolling

[inner ocean]

like....

one of the comments of these players are...

their comment was, she was still full morale. They forgot to farm roccs to craft AO

and they've never bothered checking for 4 years

[fading juniper]

I actually thought I put in my list that I was missing fartooth, my bad

Well I changed it up to show who I'm missing

After reading this

[arctic prism]

replace with any high % exp worker

[fading juniper]

Anyway tysm

[arctic prism]

e.g. frostleaf

ye np

oh also for eun just take her out of cc

and throw idk kaltsit in there

[long wren]

damn, so we still can't downgrade right side

[inner ocean]

it's never happening

[long wren]

3 presets, rotating sucks, can't downgrade right side

[inner ocean]

have you ever considered what's attached to right side?

RR is attached to friend count

HR is attached to recruit page

TR....has no issues

but they don't want us being capable of changing any of that shit

you know the best solution for that?

[long wren]

delete base

🙂

[pale yoke]

[inner ocean]

MAKE ALL RIGHT SIDE FACILITIES COST NO POWER LIKE WORKSHOP

thats the simple solution!

[trail roost]

heyo riic ppl, does wulf just entirely change her skill from being +prod -cap to purely +cap at e2?

[inner ocean]

but they won't!

[long wren]

friend count and recruit pages prevents right side from being downgraded?

[tropic wind]

im considering to convert to 252 from 243, but does that mean that operators who need dorm level like senshi, czerny, and iris won't be used?

[pale yoke]

waiting for any good news on cn side so i can look forward to a glimpse of hope

[inner ocean]

highest reason why. undoing UI and spaghetti code

[long wren]

I was bout to say

was it a coding issue

damn man

[inner ocean]

i mean do you even know what might happen if you have ongoing recruitments on all slots and downgrade HR?

[long wren]

[inner ocean]

what happens to all 100 of your friends if you downgrade RR?

spaghetti code shit they don't want to deal with

[long wren]

fuck them friends

random delete

I see I see

[fading juniper]

CC: flametail, viviana, mlynar, kaltits, amiya
TP1: shamare, tequila, bibeak
TP2: proviso, vigil
Gold1: bryophyta, gravel, haze
Gold2: weedy, purestream
XP1: wildmane, highmore, mizuki
XP2: 2 random XP mfs
XP3: feater, conviction
PP: 2 random pp mfs
RR: ines, chen
HR: penance

CC: delphine, (not yet E2ed) yato alt, noir alt, lava alt, kroos alt (not E2)
TP1: ??
TP2: proviso, TRC
Gold1: ???
Gold2: spot, ???
XP1: vermeil, scene, ceobe
XP2: silence alt, dorothy
XP3: vigna, castle
PP: muelsyse, liskarm, goldenglow
RR: ???
HR: eyja

[arctic prism]

they turn from 5% to 2% but you can still use them

[trail roost]

so is it
e0: +20% -8 cap
e2: +20% +8 cap

[inner ocean]

thats why i said that there's still a solution

if they make all right side facilities not count in power

like workshop

there'd be no issues

but they are keeping it as such

no clue why outside of their "base vision"

[long wren]

tru tru

[inner ocean]

correction....only 10 for lvl 3

compared to the 60 of lvl 3

[fading juniper]

Wait can I even use Delphine if there's no siege alt there

[arctic prism]

tp1: morgan, siege, underflow (ulp in dorm)
gold1: mayer, waaifu, marcille
gold2: spot, warmy
rr: astesia, red

yes

siege alt is unnecessary

just a 40%

[fading juniper]

Ah man, I have to remember to do dorm shenanigans

And that's a lot of E2s I have to do

[arctic prism]

you can put them in training room or workshop if you really want to

[fading juniper]

[fading juniper]

You're a genius(es)

[arctic prism]

also for 2nd preset the lava alt and kroos alt arent really doing anything

so you can throw anyone in there too

like extra rhine lab people that you dont want to bother putting in dorm

[inner ocean]

anyone mentioned TR and Workshop meta?

Dusk will soon be replaced by Yu

easier to search for

[uncut dome]

[fading juniper]

Which 2 rhine lab ops fit in cc?

[uncut dome]

Any

[arctic prism]

doesnt matter who they're just going to be in there as fodder

[fading juniper]

Damn 😭

My first time using non-cc units in cc

[inner ocean]

still....RL in CC? I'd sooner you put them in RR

or are you devoid of that many CC ops options?

[arctic prism]

he has 2 free cc slots that arent really doing anything anyways

[inner ocean]

damn

i don't remember the last time i had free CC slots

it has been ages since i used Lee as a filler

presently, even Krooster (with Jessalter (temp), Noir Alter, Yato Alter) for me helps in keeping Eun alive for her 3 shift

[fading juniper]

I used to use Lee a lot

[uncut dome]

It's only great now since we got presets, otherwise you gotta find them with filters and stuff

[fading juniper]

I think he's almost max pot as f2p

[uncut dome]

The cursed unwanted P6

[inner ocean]

i mean....thats what we've been doing until now. And yeah i never want to return to it.

just a shame there's so few presets still

i couldn't house AH transitions or changing to 3 gold

[uncut dome]

Yea and that wasn't great, shame there's no preset to TR and WS

It's understandable for TR tho

Tho they could just make it greyed out when someone's training hmm

[compact ravine]

how much drones in total does it take to upgrade FAC from lv1 to 3?

[uncut dome]

180

[fading juniper]

Ok so

Out of Warmy, Mayer, marcille, Morgan, Delphine, conviction, underflow, astesia, which ones don't need E2 for my updated base cycle?

[uncut dome]

Conviction

[fading juniper]

Yikes

[uncut dome]

Wait why is Astesia there?? RR???

Conviction only needs E1

[arctic prism]

ye rr

[fading juniper]

Astesia and projekt red

In RR

[uncut dome]

Ogey

[arctic prism]

if you have other rr workers you can just use those

[fading juniper]

All of those units are E1 lmao

[arctic prism]

RR doesnt really matter anyways

[uncut dome]

Yea I would generally skip RR workers

Esp if they're 5* that you're really unlikely to use

[fading juniper]

So I gotta E2 my warmy Mayer marcille Morgan Delphine and underflow

Jesus on a stick

[arctic prism]

if you have silverash gnosis swire alt e2'd they can substitute morgan delphine

[uncut dome]

If you'll pull Thorns Alter and use him then you can skip on Warmy

[fading juniper]

Thorns alter is after lappy alt right?

[arctic prism]

but yea again this is why it's way more efficient if you actually just read through pin 4 and make your own rotation

it just looks daunting but it's very straightforward

[fading juniper]

Sadly I have no swalter

Welp, time to farm chips

[jaunty notch]

oh i'm just saying except dorm and ws

[whole tapir]

Honestly I cant tell if my rotations are ‘good’ enough or holding onto a thread that will be cut soon enough.

||Also I cant access the spreadsheet for some reason on iPhone.||

[inner ocean]

if it worked before this update, there's not much to improve unless it's been a long while since you tried to improve your setup and you now have more base ops raised

[whole tapir]

It worked before ig

guess the saying:
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
still works

[inner ocean]

i mean

the last time I updated my base to be optimal

Thornstar was released

after that, nothing much that shakes base meta for me

[compact ravine]

some pointers:

• you might want to add TP/FAC buffers into CC rotations, e.g. amiya paprika swire for TP, kelsey pudding for FAC
• don't use shamare on proviso team. you can get tequila and use him (even at e0) with shamare on the other TP

[whole tapir]

Right forgot that second part

[inner ocean]

ah there we go. When Dead Lancet is idle. heh.

[uncut dome]

Click it

[inner ocean]

no

[uncut dome]

Do not resist

[simple violet]

Is it not ideal to run Dormitory workers? This new feature removes them 😞

[orchid bane]

[inner ocean]

yeah i no longer do Arene teams

like right now

i used arene using naturally tired ops

i was missing 4 more

so i used 9CD

[stuck crow]

this update buffs arene though

[inner ocean]

and then put Pinus factory team temporarily in dorm

[orchid bane]

Arene button

[inner ocean]

I'm not draining 20 dedicated ops (waste of prod by this point, even if it's just RR)

[stuck crow]

literally

[inner ocean]

especially when I'm not even sure if they'll use the dedicated 20 since they WILL prioritize Lancet-2 over the 20th operator due to being more tired

[orchid bane]

Just do it quick

And put Lancet back

[inner ocean]

there's really no point

like....

[orchid bane]

It will be like 10 second alive

[inner ocean]

you know what made me annoyed to use Arene squads?

the longer scrolling

and here's what the new update didn't solve....

automated rest all doesn't put the ops you want in it if there are more tired ops, so you're back to scrolling THROUGH arene squad and then let the factory workers rest

i quit Arene squad because of it. Plus i can easily fuel Arene with natural rotations

[orchid bane]

Or just use nian

[inner ocean]

but yeah, i just got my very first rotation using already-made presets

boy....it feels so fast

1 click...BOOM. Done

some ops need relocation?

click edit, click the preset of your choice. Done.

[subtle helm]

is it just me or the base preset seems not enough slots? for rooms with 3 ops I need 4 preset to rotation 1 op each rotation, no?

[inner ocean]

thats what everyone agrees upon

no clue why they didn't go the mile after implementing it

but as far as i can tell

these base QoLs were made with casual players in mind

the same players willing to let ops reach 0 morale

and only visit once per....week

[stuck crow]

they don't want you to stagger

[subtle helm]

well at least the rest all button is useful

[stuck crow]

but also not like endgame bases do that

[subtle helm]

wait a min, did the rest all button just remove my dorm ops?

[orchid bane]

[subtle helm]

I take it back, this button is useless

[uncut dome]

[orchid bane]

You can't just come to this channel, say that and then boom chakalaka

[stuck crow]

you guys use dorm ops? damn

is this why people burn out after a couple months

[uncut dome]

I use Iris and Czerny

[subtle helm]

I do so I have some leeway to not have to login the exact same time daily to rotate, can rotate a few hours from planned rotation if I am busy

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/top-choi-seunghyun-big-bang-kpop-handsome-gif-16848774

[fluid pollen]

Rest all = -prod.

Iris Czerny and Virt.

[inner ocean]

the only time i used dorm ops is if i want Nian recovered faster

[valid storm]

I use a few

when I set up the Sui team

[inner ocean]

and most of the time, if i ever need dorm ops, my rotations have natural dorm skills like Warmy and Penance and Conviction

[pale yoke]

I hate this is what I have to do now

Major downgrade of a base

[fluid pollen]

Can still do it from the interface no?

[uncut dome]

The timer

[pale yoke]

[uncut dome]

Can't do last second swaps if you can't see the timer

[fluid pollen]

?

[uncut dome]

Oh wait nvm

It was when they're working

And I'm just blind

[fluid pollen]

Uh huh.

[uncut dome]

How's 13/11 with the presets?

[fluid pollen]

Individual swap, but much better.

[pale yoke]

Okay I legit didn't know you can click on the dorm like that lol

[fluid pollen]

CC is completed from the 3 shifts.

[uncut dome]

I forgot if it's 3 or I did some 4 teams

For a facility

[pale yoke]

I always click on the ops

[fluid pollen]

This is new to the new stuff I think.

[uncut dome]

Oh wait you're right you need to click on the dorm itself, that's why

So I wasn't blind

[pale yoke]

Yea

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

Ye.

[pale yoke]

I was like wait I don't see that

Then try clicking the dorm

[fluid pollen]

For facs we can’t shift, edit and change is still good.

13 11 is easier.

[uncut dome]

Oh wait I can't go back later

I need to wait tomorrow

Cuz my Sui just went in earlier

[fluid pollen]

My base died from maint.

[pale yoke]

Back to minmaxing

[fluid pollen]

Yup.

[uncut dome]

Mine almost died but saved cuz leeway from 12hr after I fell asleep right before maknt ended

[fluid pollen]

[uncut dome]

Cursed Guy is back to cursing in base and not cursing the base update

[fluid pollen]

[uncut dome]

Actually I wonder if I can do my 11/6.5/6.5

[fluid pollen]

[pale yoke]

Thanks for that noods

[fluid pollen]

[uncut dome]

Yea I can't believe I forgot about that after I read Gato's stuff on the sheet tho ig I read it way before

And just scanned through it a few days ago when he made the final update

[pale yoke]

I haven't been to the sheet for so long I don't even know what new ops does

[stoic spoke]

I this sufficient Morale Reduction for 36hr rotations? WP for Chong is 60

[pale yoke]

I just ask here

[fluid pollen]

[pale yoke]

[uncut dome]

Yes

[stoic spoke]

tnx

[uncut dome]

The one with the least leeway on your rots would be Eunectes

[pale yoke]

I assume you meant me

[uncut dome]

Yes you are Cursed Guy

That's how I nicknamed you

Since idk what to call you

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-cursed-clash-bandai-namco-yuta-okkotsu-cursed-spirit-gif-11578455547979138687

[stoic spoke]

so the whole eunectes team

should I shift kaltsit one rotation up?

so mlynar can work with vivi and flametail

[uncut dome]

Nah that's fine

You have constant -0.1

It's the least leeway but you have leeway

[pale yoke]

You can call me "The best 333 base doctor no cap all skill very professional the IV"

[uncut dome]

That's too long and that sounds cursed

[inner ocean]

I just realized that it shows what they're making

that's gonna be pretty good especially in sharing and teaching others

[uncut dome]

Yea

From now on I will refer to them as Precious Metals Factory 1 and so on

[pallid isle]

Better order and shows what's being made is good

[stoic spoke]

why is bryo in 2 slot

:ya:

put bryo with gravel and warmy

and waifu aroma in 2 slot

[uncut dome]

He can't

He's just resting Weedy Purestream rn

[pale yoke]

Not having aroma 1st slot

[uncut dome]

So Aroma WF can't go to that factory

[pallid isle]

I think that's the 2 gold?

[uncut dome]

Yea it is 2 GOLD

[pallid isle]

Yeah I am a bit tired lol

[uncut dome]

And he keeps 1 factory as flex all the time

[pallid isle]

2 gold is so awkward man

[inner ocean]

Here's context. I'm doing 2 gold/3 exp right now

[uncut dome]

Unless you changed it JuSan

[inner ocean]

This is the real one. But global don't have them yet

[uncut dome]

The Weedy in lvl1 fac that caps in like 7.5hrs, truly cursed

[inner ocean]

that was old me

[uncut dome]

Yea that looks like the one with a flex fac

[inner ocean]

don't you remember us doing 2 fucking pages

both to optimize 3 gold and to optimize 3 EXP?

[uncut dome]

Yea

[uncut dome]

Oh you're not doing completely flex anymore I see

[inner ocean]

the x-mark is me updating the layout to follow the new overview

[fluid pollen]

[stoic spoke]

[pale yoke]

Youre just a hater

[uncut dome]

Wdym hater I did that as well before

[pale yoke]

I hate zyf now

[inner ocean]

Zyf, the last time you helped me was me removing flex fac entirely

and to house AH squad too

[uncut dome]

I know but I also helped you with keeping it

[uncut dome]

Wtf I'm not hating on it when I know it's optimal

[pale yoke]

Why would you remove flex especially with the addition of AH?

[fluid pollen]

I hate Zyf now.

[pale yoke]

"we" hate zyf now

[fluid pollen]

Indeed “we”.

[pale yoke]

I'm only friend with not zyf

Zyf, nope

[uncut dome]

It's more like the workers change from being general to separate GOLD and EXP

[inner ocean]

it's because you're forced to use shittier base combos to keep it a flex factory

a flex factory means it uses only ALL prod ops

which are weaker than dedicated ones

[stoic spoke]

so waifu is the issue

[uncut dome]

I've come far, I have haters now

[pallid isle]

If only there was room for ah and Jessica team

[inner ocean]

the only exception of solid ALLprod ops are Waai and AH

thats it....

if you want to keep using a flex fac

you're forcing yourself into a 95% and a 100%

[stoic spoke]

does waaifu work with weedy+purestream

[inner ocean]

feels like shit if you know you could half-ass less

[fluid pollen]

Nop.

The

[stoic spoke]

okay

[pale yoke]

That's the beauty of a 333 base

[stoic spoke]

where does bryo fit in this

[uncut dome]

Yea you'll have similar thing with JuSan once you get Bryo

[stoic spoke]

with thorns

[pallid isle]

Isn't bryo just better then bubble team?

[stoic spoke]

[stoic spoke]

I missed him

[uncut dome]

Missed on debut and missed on rerun smh

Now you wait a year

[fluid pollen]

Horrid.

[stoic spoke]

[pale yoke]

At least someone missed bryo, no one would miss you

[stoic spoke]

so I stick bryo in lvl3 fac for max stonks

with thorns

should be fine

not the same situation as jusan

[uncut dome]

It'll be the same when you wanna 3 EXP

Wait you're that guy

I remember now

[stoic spoke]

then I'll not 3exp

[uncut dome]

You just spam drones on Proviso

Smh

[stoic spoke]

ye

isn't that the best drone value?

[uncut dome]

Wtf truly hating

MOODDDSSS

Jk

[pale yoke]

[uncut dome]

Uhm actually, nvm it sounds like a hot take

Generally it is cuz of the demand for LMD compared to EXP

But EXP has more true value when droned

[inner ocean]

updated to the new overview. became wider...but can't do anything about that.

[stoic spoke]

wait really? I just read this and was droning proviso all along

[uncut dome]

And GOLD has the highest when you're in a deficit but GOLD is also useless when you're gaining much, it's weird

[orchid bane]

[uncut dome]

Dw it's pretty much the same cuz of what I said, the LMD demand is higher

[stoic spoke]

will drone exp now onwards

[uncut dome]

Droning Proviso just has way higher raw output if you neglect the GOLD she eats

[orchid bane]

to me, drone on XP or Proviso TP makes no difference

cause not doing LS CE anyway

[uncut dome]

Yea it's pretty much the same

[orchid bane]

it is just, drone on Proviso TP is better than Drone on TP

that is all

[stoic spoke]

[fluid pollen]

Nope different.

Drone exp is less clicks.

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

[orchid bane]

tru tru

[uncut dome]

More efficient

Truly

[stoic spoke]

Click ROI

[fluid pollen]

[stuck crow]

the only actual bad move is droning chips

[orchid bane]

why ?

oh cause Yu patch ?

[stuck crow]

yes

[pallid isle]

What's on that patch

[orchid bane]

1s chip craft

[pallid isle]

I mean I keep droning chips since forever

Obviously it's been bad since well

Probably day 1

But yeah lol

No real reason to do it

[orchid bane]

-# If I know this day would come I would have not E2 anyone but baseslave from day 1

[stoic spoke]

this better now?

[pallid isle]

I mean I am still slowly working away at E2 everyone but starting to take detours in a couple level 90 and building a couple more op

[wind otter]

well, I'm not going to complain. Nice surprise.

[wind otter]

This is the highlight of the update.

[pallid isle]

Yeah finding ah both easier and I can put it on a couple presets

Sadly not enough room for all rooms though

How much help a 4th preset would be

[pale yoke]

4x0 is still 0

[pallid isle]

?

[pale yoke]

the joke here is im not using preset

heh

so 4th wont matter to me

[pallid isle]

I mean sure whatever ig

[uncut dome]

You made it worse put it back

[stoic spoke]

what

[uncut dome]

That one is exactly 36hrs

The first one you did was already optimal I'd say

[stoic spoke]

this one has mlynar + 2 smile

and eunectes overlap

[uncut dome]

I just said which will have the least leeway

[stoic spoke]

and a free slot somehow

[wind otter]

I do the same. It's being hard leaving behind the habit. May take a couple of weeks. lol

[stoic spoke]

so isn't this better ?

[uncut dome]

1 Eunectes slot doesn't have any morale drain decrease

[stoic spoke]

umm

[empty hare]

any guides

[stoic spoke]

2nd really feel better methinks

[uncut dome]

That's 36hrs Eun with no leeway

[empty hare]

for setting up your base after update

[inner ocean]

3 Gold & 3 EXP

[empty hare]

what the fuck!

[pale yoke]

[wind otter]

more presets would be welcome

[wind otter]

[inner ocean]

Allows me to also save my 3 Gold -> 3 EXP -> 3 Gold setups.

[uncut dome]

What kinda guide are you looking for? Making presets for rotations?

[fluid pollen]

Actually zyf can you show the 11 6.5 rot.

[empty hare]

yea

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-gif-18158941378901433539

[pale yoke]

i hate the new button that appear when you have preset
and i move my ops around way too much
e.g. Aroma Waifu Gravel ramp > Aroma Waifu Purestream
and move gravel to bryo or during AH purestream with 2AH

[orchid bane]

my dorms are full atm

so the number 8 here should be

the number of full morale in dorms ?

[pale yoke]

your dorms might be full but maybe you still have 8 more ops with not full morale

which isnt in dorm

[orchid bane]

I got more than 8 not full morale

Arene food

[pale yoke]

[wind otter]

so you don't have factories, you have a revolving doors

[pale yoke]

red show dorm

[orchid bane]

nuu

too shy to show

[wind otter]

Hung pot tagless jumpscare

[orchid bane]

my dorm is bad

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/muelsyse-arknights-mumu-note-noted-gif-muelsyse-arknights-mumu-arknights-arknights-mumu-arknights-muelsyse-gif-652626132390303123

[uncut dome]

Do you need help in creating the rotation or do you have a thing in mind? Actually, are you knowledgeable enough with the base cuz checking pin link 4 would give you information about which ops would be great per facility and then use pin link 5 to use as a planner. Since it would take some effort to actually make one from scratch depending on who you have, so you can start with that and we can help you optimize.

[wind otter]

still, I'm sure there would be a preset here and there that would make your rotations a little easier

[pale yoke]

ill look into it later i guess

im still trying to get used to it

[uncut dome]

Lemme find it tho I'll update it since iirc it only had til Aroma

[wind otter]

fair

[pale yoke]

removing the filter was a weird decision

[pallid isle]

I have the knowledge but it's easier to steal from jusan anyway

[fluid pollen]

aight thx.

[uncut dome]

@fluid pollen which version would you want btw? 33321 or 33222??

[pallid isle]

You mean to tell me you liked having filters that you apparently used for literally years

What

[wind otter]

so far the class icons have done the trick for me, but needs further testing to find occult complaint material

[pallid isle]

I just wish there was the option for both

Find by class or find by filter

Asking for way to much though

[uncut dome]

Find by height

[inner ocean]

ah this is nice.

[pale yoke]

insane concept right? 🤯

[inner ocean]

even updates in real time

[pale yoke]

is the dorm, the dorm is slower now

[uncut dome]

noodle isn't answering

[pale yoke]

i have to filter ops out by vision

[uncut dome]

Cursed Guy should I give him 33321?

Oh there he is

[fluid pollen]

eh what.

[pale yoke]

idk

[fluid pollen]

erm 33222.

[uncut dome]

I asked which version

Ogey

[wind otter]

how so?

[fluid pollen]

[uncut dome]

Surely it doesn't get messy with ThornsAlt

[wind otter]

You sort by skill for skill op, you sort by morale for morale op.

[pale yoke]

See here 3 ops need to rest yea?

Now find them

That's the experience

[uncut dome]

Gladiia getting supercharged

[pale yoke]

[uncut dome]

Go use Vendela smh

[pale yoke]

I mean ...

[uncut dome]

Tho she only adds like 0.15 til 18 morale iirc

Prob saves you like 5 minutes

[pale yoke]

What 2 min?

[uncut dome]

[pale yoke]

Lmao

[wind otter]

Scroll to the right twice? Isn't that faster than opening the sorting tags window?

[uncut dome]

Wait wth the AH version is missing I need to find it

Did Ulpi come after Aroma?

[pale yoke]

yea

[uncut dome]

Ogey the sheet is missing, I prob deleted when I was deleting duplicate sheets I wasn't using anymore

[pale yoke]

no but sometimes they are amongst the other low morale, not necessarily lowest

wait let me show you by removing my ops first

8 ops yea?

Locate them

This is what no filter means

[jaunty notch]

not to mention the icon of being in a preset is distracting you from seeing which op is not in anymore

[wind otter]

that one is also pain

[pallid isle]

This update is just so half assed it's amazing

[pale yoke]

it's great for people who doesnt really care much about productivity as long there's ops in there
they can just preset and 1 click every once in a while
but for people who want more out of their base ops its dreadful

[stoic spoke]

if I remove the one shift mlynar + smile for alter team, do lvl2 facility workers still complete 36hr just from one shift chong+60WP?

[pale yoke]

i can see why some people will like it but still there will be people who dislike it

and understandably so

[orchid bane]

I want switch preset button here

[uncut dome]

No, since you're doing 36hr rots you need at least 2 MD decrease shifts in CC

[stoic spoke]

fuck

[pale yoke]

especially when the base ops skill are build around having certain ops REMAIN IN BASE e.g.durin suis rhodes team etc

like you design their skill like that and you changed your base auto function to kick them out of base

why

[stoic spoke]

36hr eunectes is 0.6 morale left, It's too close for my lazy shifting

[wind otter]

stoopid Rest Ops button in the same corner as the Confirm button

[orchid bane]

oh yeah, Just found out that I could save many friend accounts ingame so that I could quick swap them

[uncut dome]

You can always kick Kal in one shift

[orchid bane]

good update

[wind otter]

this update makes me appreciate those extra pop up windows that ask you "Are you sure you want to do this? The following action cannot be reversed."

[orchid bane]

tbh I don't understand this

just continue

[wind otter]

That means you are entering your Arknights/Yostar account in two different Google Play accounts. The Yostar account binds with the Google Play account so whenever you switch, it switches which is kind of silly and I expect this to show up every time for viewer pulls streamers.

[orchid bane]

[stoic spoke]

what about this?

[wind otter]

I have different Google play emails for desktop vs smartphone so I see that pop up window all the time.

[orchid bane]

I think they will always hide them anyway

[uncut dome]

She'd survive longer obviously but not staggering Autom and Pinus can hurt your dorm space and would make you need more ops for the non-main shift

Check out the rest of the rotation first if it's fine

[stoic spoke]

I forgor how to count dorms

should be good now

even has dusk slot ready

can Bibeak/Diamante pull 48hr with this much -MD?

that would reduce one more dorm slot pressure

[uncut dome]

No, that's not that much -MD

[stoic spoke]

[uncut dome]

You gotta blame Sham for that

Otherwise it would've been easy

[stoic spoke]

[fluid pollen]

[wind otter]

ok, I'm in love with presets, it's over

[fluid pollen]

They’re good.

[jaunty notch]

the only good thing

[uncut dome]

Aroma starts at 25% right and not 27%?

[jaunty notch]

yeah

who tf would think she ramps from 0 to 20

[jaunty notch]

but y know the thing i like the most is 180 cap

[wind otter]

[jaunty notch]

imagine eating the 120 sanity pack when you have more than 15 sanity

can't be me

[wind otter]

when that happens I wait until I have enough sanity to get close to 0 sanity

[jaunty notch]

welp guess i'll have to wait until i have just enough sanity to clear the desired stage

see

a waste of time

[wind otter]

*to enter a stage to get close to 0 sanity

[wind otter]

a waste of time, but not a waste of sanity

[jaunty notch]

https://x.com/RIHI_ewokakune/status/1909873232934797783

リヒー🌹 (@RIHI_ewokakune) on X

ロスモンティスの知覚情報フェスティバル

X · Apr 9, 2025, 7:37 AM

[wind otter]

that is so freaking cool

[jaunty notch]

IT FEELS SO GOOD

[leaden grove]

Okay time to commission this artist to redo your guide. An illustrated version, like a children’s book if you will

[wind otter]

I was going to say that from now on anyone who doesn't present their rotations in that artstyle should not get help

[wind otter]

Virtuosa doko

[pallid latch]

is there a guide for any 4* e1 must haves?

for the base

[inner ocean]

Purestream

if you want more base operator knowledge, check the pins

#4 on base guides

[wind otter]

yeah, Noob section:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?pli=1&gid=800801592#gid=800801592

[orchid bane]

chestnut

[wind otter]

it has the cheaper E1 you can promote in the beginnig. Some of those 4 stars you will continue using, like Purestream and Gravel. Caper is one of the best for clue search and you may get a lot of mileage out of Vermeil until you find better options / if you don't have them.

[uncut dome]

I can't believe I was looking for like 10 minutes for the wrong thing in my sheet cuz some numbers isn't matching but it was just cuz I set Proviso E0 instead of E2

[jaunty notch]

felt that

[wind otter]

the art of making it so that Gladiia gets tired at the same time as Ling's last 11.9 morale rest finishes

[uncut dome]

@fluid pollen it's done

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UoJU886hYwxAmYSjRCXlBtF1-3DNph0u3tYt1nLjCro/edit?usp=drivesdk

Then the extended for Aroma shenanigans

[jaunty notch]

bro wtf

[uncut dome]

He asked for it

Jieyun usage

[tropic wind]

I was looking at the base calc template on pins. How do i run shamare, tequila, and proviso on all 3 rotation? Do i let them dead tired?

[jaunty notch]

Fiammetta

[floral spruce]

Ok might be time to go back to a lazy 12 hour strat

[proven sequoia]

any guide how to use the new rest function for lazy unoptimized doctor?

[stoic spoke]

1. save teams into slots
2. load from saved teams

[undone oracle]

hello base people, what does pp mean in the spreadsheet?

[jaunty notch]

[jaunty notch]

power plant

[undone oracle]

thansk

[stoic spoke]

okay how do you even tolerate an alarm every hour when doing proviso

Like imagine you're busy/ engrossed in something and the alarm rings every hour to break your concentration

wtf

[arctic prism]

lol for me it's more like i'll start curse if i have a decent amount of drones saved up and drone tp until i get a big order

gives a little more leeway

and with the drones leftover it's just anytime you log in within the last like 30 min of the order or so you should have enough drones to finish off the order

it's not as bad as it sounds imo

[stoic spoke]

[arctic prism]

ofc if you know you're going to be busy for longer than 1 hr you just dont curse

[stoic spoke]

How much difference in lmd does it create?

[arctic prism]

assuming you do it perfectly every time it's basically like putting another tp worker in your proviso multiplied tp

[stoic spoke]

I want to do it but don't have the motivation to login every hour and set multiple alarms

[arctic prism]

so depending on what you have probably like an extra +50~70% tp after factoring in proviso multiplier

[stoic spoke]

Does zyf calculator have curse tech support?

[stoic spoke]

So like 10k-15k?

[leaden grove]

Having a life debuff

Major L

[arctic prism]

not too sure, im guessing you have to modify the sheet to account for it since not many people would bother with it

[arctic prism]

probably less

[stoic spoke]

The real Base slave was me all along

[arctic prism]

iirc it was closer to 5k difference if you do it on 1 level3 tp

so level 2 tp should be closer to like 7k ish?

[wind otter]

you get used to being interrupted in the middle of a bath

[arctic prism]

if you do both tps you might be able to hit 10~15k diff lol

[stoic spoke]

[stoic spoke]

Sounds good

[arctic prism]

doing it on both tps sounds pretty aids tho lmao

gl

[stoic spoke]

Nah. F this

[arctic prism]

oh also btw if you miss the curse timing you get negative prod

so

yea

[stoic spoke]

15k LMD less, per day for me

[arctic prism]

lol im p sure i miss enough curses to balance out the profit i gain from doing it

but hey no need to fia proviso is technically profit

[bleak kestrel]

For sorting through Ops, what's the difference between State and Morale?

[arctic prism]

state groups stuff based off of what that op is currently doing

e.g. ops that are resting in dorms will be grouped together, ops that are currently on shift in any facility will be grouped together

whereas morale sort doesnt care about that

[hollow plume]

how do i fix my base